lugnet.admin.curators:337 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 22c23 >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF >¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 26,30c27,30 I won't lie, if the email verification system was removed I would likely=20 post more, well, more respond to more threads anyway. but I can completely= =20 understand why this system is in place. if there is a way of provide=20 similar protection by laying that responsibility with the moderators of=20 I won't lie, if the email verification system was removed I would likely post more, well, more respond to more threads anyway. but I can completely understand why this system is in place. if there is a way of provide similar protection by laying that responsibility with the moderators of 36,37d35
lugnet.admin.database:246 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 41,42c42,43 >> > # minifigs =3D 5 not 4: Anakin Skywalker, R2-D2, Jar Jar Binks,= Qui-Gon Jinn, >> > # minifigs = 5 not 4: Anakin Skywalker, R2-D2, Jar Jar Binks, Qui-Gon >> > Jinn, 54d54
lugnet.admin.database:1055 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 30 Lines: 28 21,28c22,28 I am not sure if this goes here or not, but I got an e-mail last = night in regards to selling one of my 1789 Star Hawk II models, when I = checked Pause out this morning, I saw that It says "information only - = do not contact people". After only starting to put my collection on the = pause listing after a day and a half, even.It reminds me of drivers at = Meijer, who park their cars between the NO PARKING FIRE LANE signs, = makes a nuisence of people trying to get around them, and then turn on = their blinkers, so it must be OK. : ( I am not sure if this goes here or not, but I got an e-mail last night in regards to selling one of my 1789 Star Hawk II models, when I checked Pause out this morning, I saw that It says "information only - do not contact people". After only starting to put my collection on the pause listing after a day and a half, even.It reminds me of drivers at Meijer, who park their cars between the NO PARKING FIRE LANE signs, makes a nuisence of people trying to get around them, and then turn on their blinkers, so it must be OK. : ( 33,35c33,34 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for
lugnet.admin.general:1264 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 23,24c24,25 > /loc/dk/oj/ =D8stjylland (=C5rhus, Randers, Vejle, Aalborg) > /loc/dk/sj/ S=F8nderjylland (S=F8nderborg, Billund, Esbjerg) > /loc/dk/oj/ Østjylland (Århus, Randers, Vejle, Aalborg) > /loc/dk/sj/ Sønderjylland (Sønderborg, Billund, Esbjerg) 26,29c27,29 > /loc/dk/sj/ Sj=E6lland og =F8erne (K=F8benhavn, Roskilde, = Nyk=F8bing) > [ /loc/dk/bo/ Bornholm (R=F8nne) ] >=20 > /loc/dk/sj/ Sjælland og øerne (København, Roskilde, Nykøbing) > [ /loc/dk/bo/ Bornholm (Rønne) ] > 42c42 would be interested in events in K=F8benhavn (Copenhagen). would be interested in events in København (Copenhagen). 47,48c47 /Lars (in =C5rhus) /Lars (in Århus)
lugnet.admin.general:1276 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 55 Lines: 51 20,33c21,33 I have to agree here. Some of your messages are kind of(sometimes very)= confusing. And when you reply to a message you delete what was in the= message rather than leaving the part of the original message you were= replying to. If you were to do that, then that would help A LOT. Also like= Sproat said punctuation and caps would also help, and even punctuation= would make the messages easier to read. For example you could write what= you did like this so that it would sound ok when reading it. "since i posted the announcement, i have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder= support'." or "Since I posted the announcement, I have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder= support'." rather than "since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder= support" I have to agree here. Some of your messages are kind of(sometimes very) confusing. And when you reply to a message you delete what was in the message rather than leaving the part of the original message you were replying to. If you were to do that, then that would help A LOT. Also like Sproat said punctuation and caps would also help, and even punctuation would make the messages easier to read. For example you could write what you did like this so that it would sound ok when reading it. "since i posted the announcement, i have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder support'." or "Since I posted the announcement, I have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder support'." rather than "since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder support" 35,36c35,36 I think you know that we are not angry at you but just a little fustrated= at your "unique" writing style :) I think you know that we are not angry at you but just a little fustrated at your "unique" writing style :) 39,40c39,40 ps I will compliment you on your reply to my message because you did use= good punctuation there :) ps I will compliment you on your reply to my message because you did use good punctuation there :) 47,48c47 >> since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder= support >> since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder support 58,59c57 >1. i dont want to cramp your almost unique style but it is hard to read= and >1. i dont want to cramp your almost unique style but it is hard to read and 62,63c60 >i know its not fair that other people can do it this way and get read it= can >i know its not fair that other people can do it this way and get read it can 75d71
lugnet.admin.general:1282 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 30 Lines: 29 20,22c21,23 I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked the= message on the web and it was in your post that showed up with the line= being long, not mine. I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked the message on the web and it was in your post that showed up with the line being long, not mine. 32,38c33,39 >> I have to agree here. Some of your messages are kind of(sometimes very)= confusing. And when you reply to a message you delete what was in the= message rather than leaving the part of the original message you were= replying to. If you were to do that, then that would help A LOT. Also like= Sproat said punctuation and caps would also help, and even punctuation= would make the messages easier to read. For example you could write what= you did like this so that it would sound ok when reading it. >> I have to agree here. Some of your messages are kind of(sometimes very) >> confusing. And when you reply to a message you delete what was in the message >> rather than leaving the part of the original message you were replying to. If >> you were to do that, then that would help A LOT. Also like Sproat said >> punctuation and caps would also help, and even punctuation would make the >> messages easier to read. For example you could write what you did like this >> so that it would sound ok when reading it. 40,45c41,45 >> "since i posted the announcement, i have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder= support'." or >> "Since I posted the announcement, I have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder= support'." rather than >> "since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder= support" >> "since i posted the announcement, i have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder >> support'." or >> "Since I posted the announcement, I have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder >> support'." rather than >> "since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder support" 50d49
lugnet.admin.general:1290 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 29 Lines: 24 20,21c21,22 I'll see if I can find a way to change it. I don't read all the groups so I= don't see all the things like that that could be helpful. I'll see if I can find a way to change it. I don't read all the groups so I don't see all the things like that that could be helpful. 29,30c30 >> I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked= the >> I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked the 35,36c35 >That's probably because your newsreader isn't set to wrap out-going= messages or >That's probably because your newsreader isn't set to wrap out-going messages or 38,41c37,38 >understand the protocol, but not all other newsreaders do. When the= message is >replied to, it drops the protocol, resulting in everyone seeing it as a= single >understand the protocol, but not all other newsreaders do. When the message is >replied to, it drops the protocol, resulting in everyone seeing it as a single 46,47c43 >P.S. Take this with a grain of salt, because most of my understanding of= line >P.S. Take this with a grain of salt, because most of my understanding of line 49d44
lugnet.admin.general:1292 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 51 Lines: 45 20,21c21,22 Um, I don't think that's possible because I haven't figured out how to= change line length yet :) I will look into it though. Um, I don't think that's possible because I haven't figured out how to change line length yet :) I will look into it though. 30,31c31 >Did you set your margins wide to post to cad.dat and then forget to set= them >Did you set your margins wide to post to cad.dat and then forget to set them 37,40c37,38 >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message= <199904091649310170.01A13BDC@agate.net>... >I'll see if I can find a way to change it. I don't read all the groups so= I >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message <199904091649310170.01A13BDC@agate.net>... >I'll see if I can find a way to change it. I don't read all the groups so I 49,50c47 >>> I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked= the >>> I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked the 55,56c52 >>That's probably because your newsreader isn't set to wrap out-going= messages >>That's probably because your newsreader isn't set to wrap out-going messages 59,60c55 >>understand the protocol, but not all other newsreaders do. When the= message >>understand the protocol, but not all other newsreaders do. When the message 71d65
lugnet.admin.general:1322 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 104 Lines: 97 27,28c28 > not having a general catch-all group -- where do new paradigms go as= they > not having a general catch-all group -- where do new paradigms go as they 32,33c32,33 I think that having a cad.dat.creations would be a great idea but I have to= agree, What would happen to cad.dat? I think that having a cad.dat.creations would be a great idea but I have to agree, What would happen to cad.dat? 54,55c54 I think that these should be considered MOCs, but with the set as a= reference. I think that these should be considered MOCs, but with the set as a reference. 85,86c84 > weird part, how would you use that?" and then click a link which= *shows* > weird part, how would you use that?" and then click a link which *shows* 88,89c86 > be able to do cross referencing of parts, you should be able to jump= into > be able to do cross referencing of parts, you should be able to jump into 93,94c90 Now that is one good idea. That would be good for newer modelers and= experianced Now that is one good idea. That would be good for newer modelers and experianced 99,100c95 > We haven't seen too many "scenes" yet, perhaps because people are= having > We haven't seen too many "scenes" yet, perhaps because people are having 102,103c97 > isn't a large enough collection of models out there to pick & choose= from > isn't a large enough collection of models out there to pick & choose from 124d117
lugnet.admin.general:1329 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 24 Lines: 23 38,39c39 >Yes, your Hoth Battle scene is a great example of the types of things that= >Yes, your Hoth Battle scene is a great example of the types of things that 44d43
lugnet.admin.general:1348 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,23c21,24 I mean when you go to type and post a new message, and by lists I meant= newsgroups. That way you can just choose what newsgroup(s) you wan the message to go= to, rather I mean when you go to type and post a new message, and by lists I meant newsgroups. That way you can just choose what newsgroup(s) you wan the message to go to, rather 49d49
lugnet.admin.general:2318 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 23,24c24 >your support -- as well as your enthusiasm for LEGO=AE toys -- is to= display >your support -- as well as your enthusiasm for LEGO® toys -- is to display 38d37
lugnet.admin.general:2992 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 27 Lines: 25 21,22c22 >people's thoughts on how things have turned out so far, and whether = things >people's thoughts on how things have turned out so far, and whether things 24,25c24 >with respect to the hopes expressed in the announcement (attached = below). >with respect to the hopes expressed in the announcement (attached below). 32c31 Lugnet is a wonderful resource. It meets all my current LEGO needs. =20 Lugnet is a wonderful resource. It meets all my current LEGO needs. 47d45
lugnet.admin.general:3132 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 32 Lines: 26 22,25c23,24 >That raises the question though, as to whether lugnet.build services = minifig >related issues, and whether the inhabitants of lugnet.build think that = it would >That raises the question though, as to whether lugnet.build services minifig >related issues, and whether the inhabitants of lugnet.build think that it would 28,31c27,28 >Based soley upon Eric Harshbargers work, lugnet.build.sculpture = 'deserves' >creation, but there's no point creating splinter groups if everyone is = happy >Based soley upon Eric Harshbargers work, lugnet.build.sculpture 'deserves' >creation, but there's no point creating splinter groups if everyone is happy 34,37c31,32 >But then if you have seperate groups, it can encourage discussion, so = it's not >a clear issue. I'm sending this (and followups) to lugnet.build as that = seems >But then if you have seperate groups, it can encourage discussion, so it's not >a clear issue. I'm sending this (and followups) to lugnet.build as that seems 52d46
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lugnet.admin.nntp:1089 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 37 Lines: 32 26,31c27,29 > >>messages by Nikolai Gortz (with slash through o)? I know it's probably= my > >>fault for using bleeding edge betaware (1.2.1, with Mozilla 1.0 RC1), b= ut > >>since I seem to have narrowed down the problem to posts but just this o= ne > >>messages by Nikolai Gortz (with slash through o)? I know it's probably my > >>fault for using bleeding edge betaware (1.2.1, with Mozilla 1.0 RC1), but > >>since I seem to have narrowed down the problem to posts but just this one 34,35c32 > >ok, now I did do a search and wasn't able to find any message from someo= ne > >ok, now I did do a search and wasn't able to find any message from someone 40c37 > http://news.lugnet.com/robotics/?n=3D16738 > http://news.lugnet.com/robotics/?n=16738 45,46c42 > And just to test the character inside a message rather than as the poster= : > And just to test the character inside a message rather than as the poster: 48c44 > Nicolai G=F8rtz > Nicolai Gørtz 57d52
lugnet.admin.nntp:1217 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 22c23 >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF >¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 26,30c27,30 I won't lie, if the email verification system was removed I would likely=20 post more, well, more respond to more threads anyway. but I can completely= =20 understand why this system is in place. if there is a way of provide=20 similar protection by laying that responsibility with the moderators of=20 I won't lie, if the email verification system was removed I would likely post more, well, more respond to more threads anyway. but I can completely understand why this system is in place. if there is a way of provide similar protection by laying that responsibility with the moderators of 36,37d35
lugnet.admin.suggestions:626 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 22c23 >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF >¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 26,30c27,30 I won't lie, if the email verification system was removed I would likely=20 post more, well, more respond to more threads anyway. but I can completely= =20 understand why this system is in place. if there is a way of provide=20 similar protection by laying that responsibility with the moderators of=20 I won't lie, if the email verification system was removed I would likely post more, well, more respond to more threads anyway. but I can completely understand why this system is in place. if there is a way of provide similar protection by laying that responsibility with the moderators of 36,37d35
lugnet.announce:818 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 24 21,28c22,25 Do you need pneumatics on your robot? = You want to produce the pressure and = you want to switch the valve by motors. = With my idea you can do both with a single motor. = Do you need pneumatics on your robot? You want to produce the pressure and you want to switch the valve by motors. With my idea you can do both with a single motor. 36,50c33,43 -- = =2E \ / =2E \ / =2E \ o O o = =2E O O =2E _ _ _ _ O O - - - - = =2E O O =2E =B0oo=B0C \ en@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de = =2E / \ sibylle.eddy@t-online.de =2E / \ =2E . http://home.t-online.de/home/sibylle.eddy -- . \ / . \ / . \ o O o . O O . _ _ _ _ O O - - - - . O O . °oo°C \ en@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de . / \ sibylle.eddy@t-online.de . / \ . . http://home.t-online.de/home/sibylle.eddy
lugnet.belville:280 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 In the Lego catalog of 1997, I saw some adorable sets of Lego Scala = which have never been available in The Netherlands.=20 Does anybody know how to order them ?=20 In the Lego catalog of 1997, I saw some adorable sets of Lego Scala which have never been available in The Netherlands. Does anybody know how to order them ? 25,26c26,27 I am also intrested in some "old" Lego Belville sets, these numbers are: = 5824, 5821, 5853, 5822, 5855, 5875, 5874. I am also intrested in some "old" Lego Belville sets, these numbers are: 5824, 5821, 5853, 5822, 5855, 5875, 5874. 33c34 Estelle@zonnet.nl=20 Estelle@zonnet.nl
lugnet.books:229 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 13 Lines: 12 21c22 > :)are you considering working with others around the world to=20 > :)are you considering working with others around the world to 25,29c26,29 I'm planning to travel to places like Australia, Germany, the=20 Netherlands, the UK, and Japan. In Northern Europe, probably Sweden and=20 Denmark and Finland as well. Depends on airfares and fests and things.=20= =20 After I get back from BricksWest I'll still have 23 vacation days=20 I'm planning to travel to places like Australia, Germany, the Netherlands, the UK, and Japan. In Northern Europe, probably Sweden and Denmark and Finland as well. Depends on airfares and fests and things. After I get back from BricksWest I'll still have 23 vacation days 33d32
lugnet.books:234 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 > I noted that you mentioned as examples some very large creations, and,=20 > I noted that you mentioned as examples some very large creations, and, 23c24 > I don't envy the task of having to narrow down all the spectacular=20 > I don't envy the task of having to narrow down all the spectacular 25c26 > talents to a mere 100 (first in a series?), I urge you to remember=20 > talents to a mere 100 (first in a series?), I urge you to remember 32d32
lugnet.books:236 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 27,31c28,32 No, but it's a lot better than over the telephone or e-mail. I have 4=20 hours of audio tapes (I don't have a phonographic memory) from meeting=20 with Sun Yun last week. We mostly just chatted while he assembled=20 models and I took pictures. Not a typical "interview" style interview=20 (pretty relaxed) but I learned just as much and I can follow-up on the=20 No, but it's a lot better than over the telephone or e-mail. I have 4 hours of audio tapes (I don't have a phonographic memory) from meeting with Sun Yun last week. We mostly just chatted while he assembled models and I took pictures. Not a typical "interview" style interview (pretty relaxed) but I learned just as much and I can follow-up on the 34c35 > Could we parhaps take pictures ourselves and do the talking via the=20 > Could we parhaps take pictures ourselves and do the talking via the 37,38c38,39 I haven't thought about pictures yet. I have been planning to take all=20 the photos myself...for legal reasons mostly, but that's not an=20 I haven't thought about pictures yet. I have been planning to take all the photos myself...for legal reasons mostly, but that's not an 43,44c44,45 Good question. I don't know if I can codify the criteria. The=20 creations certainly ought to have an appeal to the general public and be=20 Good question. I don't know if I can codify the criteria. The creations certainly ought to have an appeal to the general public and be 47c48 > What about us who can't travel, are not as famous, or can't attend=20 > What about us who can't travel, are not as famous, or can't attend 50c51 Famous isn't a criteria. Getting to a fest helps. I plan to travel as=20 Famous isn't a criteria. Getting to a fest helps. I plan to travel as 53c54 > What are your estimates of the book? What's the intended price,=20 > What are your estimates of the book? What's the intended price, 57c58 Intended price: US$20 softcover, US$35 hardcover. Something in that=20 Intended price: US$20 softcover, US$35 hardcover. Something in that 62,67c63,68 Fanfare: Do you mean promotion? I believe that's usually negotiated with=20 the publisher...so something for down the road. I don't really know=20 yet. Typically, book authors invest a lot of personal time into=20 promoting their book, speaking at bookstores, booking radio interviews,=20 etc. The publisher typically takes care of listing it and finding large=20 buyers like Barnes & Noble, but not going out in the trenches and=20 Fanfare: Do you mean promotion? I believe that's usually negotiated with the publisher...so something for down the road. I don't really know yet. Typically, book authors invest a lot of personal time into promoting their book, speaking at bookstores, booking radio interviews, etc. The publisher typically takes care of listing it and finding large buyers like Barnes & Noble, but not going out in the trenches and 74c75 --Todd (wandering around the Midway airport in Chicago with 25 pounds of=20 --Todd (wandering around the Midway airport in Chicago with 25 pounds of 76d76
lugnet.build:544 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 63 Lines: 49 20c21 Fredrik Gl=F6ckner wrote: Fredrik Glöckner wrote: 24,25c25 > lines. I don't get it. I mean, if people wanted to build, why did the= y > lines. I don't get it. I mean, if people wanted to build, why did they 32,41c32,36 technic. If I am, on the other hand, looking for a gift for a younger chi= ld I would like (and in the past had no problem) to find a set that initiall= y excites the child with "cool" stock models, but provides them with enough= pieces (both in quantity and diversity) to build their own designs. I alw= ays use to think of the models pictured in the instructions as nothing more t= han technic. If I am, on the other hand, looking for a gift for a younger child I would like (and in the past had no problem) to find a set that initially excites the child with "cool" stock models, but provides them with enough pieces (both in quantity and diversity) to build their own designs. I always use to think of the models pictured in the instructions as nothing more than 47,48c42 building stock is certainly true, but in the case of younger children I h= ave building stock is certainly true, but in the case of younger children I have 50,53c44,45 instructions to give them a "starting point." However if the construction= set is so limited that they can only build certain kinds of things with i= t instructions to give them a "starting point." However if the construction set is so limited that they can only build certain kinds of things with it 55,62c47,50 balancing both of these considerations such that you had a fire station t= hat could also make a great spaceship, and all from ONE set! Now perhaps I am= just getting too old for my imagination to jump through the hoops necessa= ry to get from fire station to spaceship, but I do not see this balance in t= he balancing both of these considerations such that you had a fire station that could also make a great spaceship, and all from ONE set! Now perhaps I am just getting too old for my imagination to jump through the hoops necessary to get from fire station to spaceship, but I do not see this balance in the 65,66c53 In all honesty the lack of quality set design does not really affect *my*= In all honesty the lack of quality set design does not really affect *my* 69,72c56,57 technic) who are getting into LEGO for the first time, if the sets had be= en like this when I was a child I might have just stuck my sets in the close= t technic) who are getting into LEGO for the first time, if the sets had been like this when I was a child I might have just stuck my sets in the closet 83,84d67
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lugnet.build:2025 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25c26 =46or those familiar with both, if you had choose between one or the For those familiar with both, if you had choose between one or the 31,33d31
lugnet.build:2441 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 25 Lines: 22 22,27c23,25 >For what its worth, the Lego Shop@Home catalog is offering the #8250 = Rescue=20 >Sub for $25.00, discounted from $49.50. Big pump, air tank, one valve, = one=20 >big cylinder, long yellow beams and nifty molded shapes. For the price,= =20 >For what its worth, the Lego Shop@Home catalog is offering the #8250 Rescue >Sub for $25.00, discounted from $49.50. Big pump, air tank, one valve, one >big cylinder, long yellow beams and nifty molded shapes. For the price, 45,46d42
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lugnet.build:2680 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 32 Lines: 26 22,25c23,24 >That raises the question though, as to whether lugnet.build services = minifig >related issues, and whether the inhabitants of lugnet.build think that = it would >That raises the question though, as to whether lugnet.build services minifig >related issues, and whether the inhabitants of lugnet.build think that it would 28,31c27,28 >Based soley upon Eric Harshbargers work, lugnet.build.sculpture = 'deserves' >creation, but there's no point creating splinter groups if everyone is = happy >Based soley upon Eric Harshbargers work, lugnet.build.sculpture 'deserves' >creation, but there's no point creating splinter groups if everyone is happy 34,37c31,32 >But then if you have seperate groups, it can encourage discussion, so = it's not >a clear issue. I'm sending this (and followups) to lugnet.build as that = seems >But then if you have seperate groups, it can encourage discussion, so it's not >a clear issue. I'm sending this (and followups) to lugnet.build as that seems 52d46
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lugnet.build:4782 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 81 Lines: 78 24,25c25,26 >=20 >=20 > > 28,29c29,30 > >> In lugnet.build, Fredrik Gl=F6ckner writes: > >> >Or have I seriously misconceived the size of the gun? =20 > >> In lugnet.build, Fredrik Glöckner writes: > >> >Or have I seriously misconceived the size of the gun? 31c32 > >> >aviation buff, but I was thinking that the gun was a six=20 > >> >aviation buff, but I was thinking that the gun was a six 34c35 > >> It's a 30mm with seven barrels. But I agree the technic=20 > >> It's a 30mm with seven barrels. But I agree the technic 36c37 > >> too large. sometimes I make gatling cannons with a 2x2=20 > >> too large. sometimes I make gatling cannons with a 2x2 38c39 > >> couple of 2x2 round plates with a handful of 1x1 cylinders=20 > >> couple of 2x2 round plates with a handful of 1x1 cylinders 40c41 > >> "barrels." you only end up with 4 barrels, but it looks=20 > >> "barrels." you only end up with 4 barrels, but it looks 44c45 > >Really? I recently (a few years ago) put my head up to the=20 > >Really? I recently (a few years ago) put my head up to the 46c47 > >it was parked and unloaded, eh? :-) and it was *totally*=20 > >it was parked and unloaded, eh? :-) and it was *totally* 48c49 > >barrel is probably close, but the cannon assembly is much=20 > >barrel is probably close, but the cannon assembly is much 50c51 > >would actually be a lot closer in scale. You could probably=20 > >would actually be a lot closer in scale. You could probably 52c53 > >technic axles to represent the barrels, or maybe even 7=20 > >technic axles to represent the barrels, or maybe even 7 56c57 > >_Smithsonian_ magazine had a fun article on the A-10 a year=20 > >_Smithsonian_ magazine had a fun article on the A-10 a year 58c59 > >some discussion on the Warthog's new lease on life due to=20 > >some discussion on the Warthog's new lease on life due to 60c61 > >during Desert Storm, and on the evolution of the Nighthog. =20 > >during Desert Storm, and on the evolution of the Nighthog. 62c63 > >probably got most of its material from, I dunno, _Stars &=20 > >probably got most of its material from, I dunno, _Stars & 64c65 > >Military Aviation and Arms Weekly_ or some such, but it was=20 > >Military Aviation and Arms Weekly_ or some such, but it was 69,70c70,71 >=20 > Ah yes --- I like the idea of using 7 technic axels with a=20 > > Ah yes --- I like the idea of using 7 technic axels with a 74,76c75,77 >=20 > it's a moral issue perhaps. =3D) >=20 > > it's a moral issue perhaps. =) > 78c79 >=20 > 80,85c81,83 An easy way around this...use one of the elastic bands from a lego = set...It must be lego, as it's part of the set and required for the model. [and = I doubt lego would include something that wasn't at least authorized by = the An easy way around this...use one of the elastic bands from a lego set...It must be lego, as it's part of the set and required for the model. [and I doubt lego would include something that wasn't at least authorized by the 92,96c90,94 Benjamin Whytcross=20 BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au=20 Ph: (03) 9856 5282=20 Directory Technology Pty Ltd=20 1/436 Elgar Road,=20 Benjamin Whytcross BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au Ph: (03) 9856 5282 Directory Technology Pty Ltd 1/436 Elgar Road, 100d97
lugnet.build:6891 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 47 Lines: 41 20,21c21 >> Just completed an office block to go alongside my Metro Terminus (part o= f my >> Just completed an office block to go alongside my Metro Terminus (part of my 23c23 >>=20 >> 25,31c25,30 >>=20 >> Though it's footprint is smaller than the 48 stud base plate it sits on,= it >> still costs =A317 a storey in bulk windows alone. With the bulk bricks as >> well, its around =A322 a story. >>=20 >> Now a 10 storey office block would look nice, but try saying =A3220 to >> >> Though it's footprint is smaller than the 48 stud base plate it sits on, it >> still costs £17 a storey in bulk windows alone. With the bulk bricks as >> well, its around £22 a story. >> >> Now a 10 storey office block would look nice, but try saying £220 to 33c32 >> Empire State? =A32000+. Forget it! >> Empire State? £2000+. Forget it! 46c45 =20 48,49c47 > areas of the buliding. For example: a city block is say 8 buildings long,= so > areas of the buliding. For example: a city block is say 8 buildings long, so 51,54c49,50 > don't need windows & can be made out of the *non-building colors* (yellow= , > blue etc.) which are more easily & less expensively obtained. I do this f= or > don't need windows & can be made out of the *non-building colors* (yellow, > blue etc.) which are more easily & less expensively obtained. I do this for 57,58c53 > So far I've only reached 5 stories for 2 buildings, the others are all un= der > So far I've only reached 5 stories for 2 buildings, the others are all under 60c55 >=20 > 62c57 >=20 > 65,67c60 >=20 >
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lugnet.build.mecha:8424 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 30,31c31,32 X_LR8R@hotmail.com=20 "Tony Knaak" <tknaaker@hotmail.com> wrote in message = X_LR8R@hotmail.com "Tony Knaak" <tknaaker@hotmail.com> wrote in message 34c35 >=20 > 38,39d38
lugnet.build.sculpture:455 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 25 Lines: 22 20,21c21 > >Are you in SoCal? If so, you're more than welcome to see it at any time = :) > >Are you in SoCal? If so, you're more than welcome to see it at any time :) 28,31c28,29 > >> -Dave (who thinks trans-green should be the answer to your latest ques= tion) > >Ahh, hopefully, I won't have any problems finding trans-green bricks the= n. > >> -Dave (who thinks trans-green should be the answer to your latest question) > >Ahh, hopefully, I won't have any problems finding trans-green bricks then. 33c31 > >http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=3D3959 > >http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=3959 38c36 --=20 -- 40,44c38,41 words or less. >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. =20 Kid: Yeah, that will be easy. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ =20 stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.')=20 stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL =20 words or less. >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. Kid: Yeah, that will be easy. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL
lugnet.cad:1117 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 36c37 > From: Fredrik Gl=F6ckner [mailto:fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no] > From: Fredrik Glöckner [mailto:fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no] 40,42c41,43 >=20 >=20 > I just thought about the magnifying glass the other day. It=20 > > > I just thought about the magnifying glass the other day. It 48c49 >=20 > 50c51 >=20 > 52,53c53 >=20 >
lugnet.cad:1161 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,21c19 Lines: 38 "Fredrik Gl=F6ckner" wrote: > = Lines: 34 22a21,22 "Fredrik Glöckner" wrote: > 24,27c24,25 > = > > That's what I'd like to see. Both to define it as the color code fo= r > > > That's what I'd like to see. Both to define it as the color code for 30,31c28 > = >
lugnet.cad:1510 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 21 Lines: 19 24,26c25,27 >> Here was my second attempt at a microfig model. It is a TIE/D(droid)= Fighter. It was used during the Battle of Calmarri. The cockpit section is= by Karim. PLMKWYT There's a nice picture at >> Here was my second attempt at a microfig model. It is a TIE/D(droid) Fighter. >> It was used during the Battle of Calmarri. The cockpit section is by Karim. >> PLMKWYT There's a nice picture at 32,35c33,35 That's good because the only other place it's been seen is when I posted= the minifig version to cad.dat. Basically what I'm saying is that it's a= moc. This is just something that I thought looked cool so I named it the= Millenium TIE(1). That's good because the only other place it's been seen is when I posted the minifig version to cad.dat. Basically what I'm saying is that it's a moc. This is just something that I thought looked cool so I named it the Millenium TIE(1). 39,41c39 (1) Why does it seem like everything has something to do with the millenium= :) (1) Why does it seem like everything has something to do with the millenium :)
lugnet.cad:1514 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Does anyone know how I can get light.dat to work from the inside of a= transparent part so that when I render it in POV it will look like it is= glowing? Any help would be appreciated. Does anyone know how I can get light.dat to work from the inside of a transparent part so that when I render it in POV it will look like it is glowing? Any help would be appreciated. 24d24
lugnet.cad:1538 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 19 Lines: 16 20,21c21 Cool. I don't know what it's supposed to look like, but still it's cool= looking Cool. I don't know what it's supposed to look like, but still it's cool looking 29,30c29 >Well, it's my first attempt at a microfig scale design - what do people= think? >Well, it's my first attempt at a microfig scale design - what do people think? 35,39c34,36 >>The movie announcement a couple of weeks ago has gotten me onto a BG kick= - >>here is a microfig Battlestar, to be followed later this year (for the= HLDC) >by a scale model >>The movie announcement a couple of weeks ago has gotten me onto a BG kick - >>here is a microfig Battlestar, to be followed later this year (for the HLDC) >>>by a scale model
lugnet.cad:1540 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 28 Lines: 25 20,21c21,22 Guess that explains why I've never really heard of it before. I wasn't even= born yet :) Guess that explains why I've never really heard of it before. I wasn't even born yet :) 30,31c31 >>Cool. I don't know what it's supposed to look like, but still it's= cool=3D >>Cool. I don't know what it's supposed to look like, but still it's cool= 37,38c37 >aired in 78-79, and then got canceled, due mostly to a seriously= competative >aired in 78-79, and then got canceled, due mostly to a seriously competative 42,43c41 >If you're interested in seeing the original, www.kobol.com is the oldest= and >If you're interested in seeing the original, www.kobol.com is the oldest and 48d45
lugnet.cad:1550 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 23 Lines: 21 19,32c20,32 To those of you who have TLG models that you have Ldrawn and wish to= "donate" to the ldraw.org model repository, I will be the person in charge= :) If you have any TLG models that you would be willing to donate, please= email me a list of sets that you have done(perferably with both part # and= name). Also if you are PLANNING to work on any TLG models please also mail= me a list of those. This way hopefully we can avoid the duplication of= Ldrawn sets; it really makes no sense to have more than one person working= on the same model. Once this is started it would also make sense to ask= for a list of the sets that are being worked on or that have been done= before you start on Ldrawing more. We would like to see as many TLG models= as possible over time. Eventually I will want to start collecting the= actual .dat files to get them organized. I hope I am not being too= confusing. If you have any questions please, please, please email me. This= will be essential if we want to get this done quickly and smoothly. To those of you who have TLG models that you have Ldrawn and wish to "donate" to the ldraw.org model repository, I will be the person in charge :) If you have any TLG models that you would be willing to donate, please email me a list of sets that you have done(perferably with both part # and name). Also if you are PLANNING to work on any TLG models please also mail me a list of those. This way hopefully we can avoid the duplication of Ldrawn sets; it really makes no sense to have more than one person working on the same model. Once this is started it would also make sense to ask for a list of the sets that are being worked on or that have been done before you start on Ldrawing more. We would like to see as many TLG models as possible over time. Eventually I will want to start collecting the actual .dat files to get them organized. I hope I am not being too confusing. If you have any questions please, please, please email me. This will be essential if we want to get this done quickly and smoothly. 34,36c34,35 ALSO IF YOU feel that you may be of use in some other area of preparing for= ldraw.org PLEASE check out the thread at lugnet.cad.dev to see what is= needed. ALSO IF YOU feel that you may be of use in some other area of preparing for ldraw.org PLEASE check out the thread at lugnet.cad.dev to see what is needed. 42d40
lugnet.cad:1554 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 36 Lines: 31 20,22c21,23 I have also been having problems. When I try launching a model from LDAO= into Ldlite it will not render. Yet if I open the model from the Ldlite= file menu it works fine. I have just all of a sudden had this problem. I have also been having problems. When I try launching a model from LDAO into Ldlite it will not render. Yet if I open the model from the Ldlite file menu it works fine. I have just all of a sudden had this problem. 35,38c36,37 >>I just reinstalled all my LDraw stuff. I reinstalled LDraw, James= Jessiman's >>parts libraries, and the latest Complete.exe. I also installed LDAO= 2.03. >>I just reinstalled all my LDraw stuff. I reinstalled LDraw, James Jessiman's >>parts libraries, and the latest Complete.exe. I also installed LDAO 2.03. 45,48c44,45 >>message at the bottom of the screen says Finished and gives a= sub-1-second >>time. When I logged the output to a file, I got a message that says= "Syntax >>message at the bottom of the screen says Finished and gives a sub-1-second >>time. When I logged the output to a file, I got a message that says "Syntax 51,52c48 >>I'm sure I just haven't set an option correctly in LDLite. I just don't= know >>I'm sure I just haven't set an option correctly in LDLite. I just don't know 56d51
lugnet.cad:1555 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 37 Lines: 35 23,24c24 >i have all of ice planet 2002, some blacktron II, a large quantity of= castle, a >i have all of ice planet 2002, some blacktron II, a large quantity of castle, a 31,41c31,40 Yes I would like a full list, but if you want to do it in different= messages(one for space, castle, etc.) that is fine, but I do want a= complete list at some point. I think that the models should be as complete= as possible, but I don't feel that the minifigs are an essential part.= Also if there are decorated elements that have not yet been done that is= fine because those can easily be added at a later point be me. If there= are parts missing(less than 5 or so depending on the set size) please make= a note of that so that I will know which ones are not completely ready.= That way when I recieve the .dat files for those I will know which ones= need to go into a "incomplete" folder. Here is an example of how I would= like to see the list set up: Yes I would like a full list, but if you want to do it in different messages(one for space, castle, etc.) that is fine, but I do want a complete list at some point. I think that the models should be as complete as possible, but I don't feel that the minifigs are an essential part. Also if there are decorated elements that have not yet been done that is fine because those can easily be added at a later point be me. If there are parts missing(less than 5 or so depending on the set size) please make a note of that so that I will know which ones are not completely ready. That way when I recieve the .dat files for those I will know which ones need to go into a "incomplete" folder. Here is an example of how I would like to see the list set up: 48,49c47,48 If everyone doing this could follow this basic layout it would make things= easier for me. If everyone doing this could follow this basic layout it would make things easier for me. 53,57c52,55 (1) please don't do sets that would me as incomplete as this one though,= you can keep those until more of its parts have been made. Also when you= send a .dat file to me DO NOT include a part mock-up in or with it, just= mark it as "incomplete". (1) please don't do sets that would me as incomplete as this one though, you can keep those until more of its parts have been made. Also when you send a .dat file to me DO NOT include a part mock-up in or with it, just mark it as "incomplete".
lugnet.cad:1564 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 29 Lines: 26 22,23c23 >metro liner and club car (including first two parts of metro liner= alternate) >metro liner and club car (including first two parts of metro liner alternate) 26,27c26,27 Is there any number for this set? I'm not into trains so I don't even know= what it is. Is there any number for this set? I'm not into trains so I don't even know what it is. 30,31c30 >missing parts: patterned parts,raised baseplate on ice station= odyssey,technic >missing parts: patterned parts,raised baseplate on ice station odyssey,technic 40,45c39,43 What about the 6973 Deep Freeze Defender; 6898 Ice-Sat V; 6814 Ice= Tunnelator?? I thought that you had done all the Ice Planet models. If you= haven't done the DFD that is OK because I am almost done it. Another piece= that would be missing from all these sets that I would like to see soon is= the helmet visor. That would be real neat looking in other colors(the= power of virtual Legoing :). What about the 6973 Deep Freeze Defender; 6898 Ice-Sat V; 6814 Ice Tunnelator?? I thought that you had done all the Ice Planet models. If you haven't done the DFD that is OK because I am almost done it. Another piece that would be missing from all these sets that I would like to see soon is the helmet visor. That would be real neat looking in other colors(the power of virtual Legoing :). 49d46
lugnet.cad:1567 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,25c21,26 Thank you. Now I know where I got it from!! I have it in a folder somewhere= :) I can inline them easy enough, so don't worry about any of that stuff. TO TIM AND THE OTHERS WORKING on the website, what is the feeling on the= models? If we have them available for download we would want them in zip= format correct? Should we leave turnable submodels as a seperate model or= should we just inline them into the main model?? Thank you. Now I know where I got it from!! I have it in a folder somewhere :) I can inline them easy enough, so don't worry about any of that stuff. TO TIM AND THE OTHERS WORKING on the website, what is the feeling on the models? If we have them available for download we would want them in zip format correct? Should we leave turnable submodels as a seperate model or should we just inline them into the main model?? 57d57
lugnet.cad:1568 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 21 Lines: 18 22,23c23 >I've got all the M:tron models, all parts and minifigs included. Most= have >I've got all the M:tron models, all parts and minifigs included. Most have 25,26c25 >format for the respository? Ldraw only? LDLite expanded command set?= .MPD? >format for the respository? Ldraw only? LDLite expanded command set? .MPD? 30,37c29,35 I don't think we should have models with Ldlite commands because that way= they are not viewable in Ledit. Also in the models I don't think that it= is necessary to have step files where TLG does, or even at all. I have= never used MPD, what exactly is it? I make and view(when I'm building an= actual model) all my models in Ledit and I use LDAO and am always using= the inline tool. I'll let the others decide on the moveable sections= problem. I think though that if we are using the zip format fo downloading= than that would be OK. I don't think we should have models with Ldlite commands because that way they are not viewable in Ledit. Also in the models I don't think that it is necessary to have step files where TLG does, or even at all. I have never used MPD, what exactly is it? I make and view(when I'm building an actual model) all my models in Ledit and I use LDAO and am always using the inline tool. I'll let the others decide on the moveable sections problem. I think though that if we are using the zip format fo downloading than that would be OK. 41d38
lugnet.cad:1579 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 66 Lines: 62 20,23c21,24 Well acording to my science book the building scales should go more like= minifig(or just plain fig) down to millifig(which would have been= microfig), and then to microfig(which was nanofig), and then if you wanted= a nanofig stardestroyer all you'd have to do would be use a 2x1 plate :) Well acording to my science book the building scales should go more like minifig(or just plain fig) down to millifig(which would have been microfig), and then to microfig(which was nanofig), and then if you wanted a nanofig stardestroyer all you'd have to do would be use a 2x1 plate :) 31,32c32,33 >> Since it seems that we have advanced from microfig building to nanofig= building, here are a couple of tie fighters :) PLMKWYT >> Since it seems that we have advanced from microfig building to nanofig >> building, here are a couple of tie fighters :) PLMKWYT 42,43c43,44 > "micro" =3D 1 / 1,000,000 (i.e. one one-millionth (1) ) ; > "nano" =3D 1 / 1,000,000,000 (i.e. one one-billionth), or 1 / 1,000 > "micro" = 1 / 1,000,000 (i.e. one one-millionth (1) ) ; > "nano" = 1 / 1,000,000,000 (i.e. one one-billionth), or 1 / 1,000 48,49c49 >droids (2) could arguably be kilo-fig scale. Of course, this analogy= breaks >droids (2) could arguably be kilo-fig scale. Of course, this analogy breaks 57,58c57 >1. American metric. Not to be confused with the metric used by the rest= of >1. American metric. Not to be confused with the metric used by the rest of 65,66c64 >Queen and Enya and Oingo Boingo and Talking Heads and Loreena McKennitt,= and >Queen and Enya and Oingo Boingo and Talking Heads and Loreena McKennitt, and 72,73c70 >5. I've decided to fully endorse usage of ObjectSpace's JGL. What a= slick >5. I've decided to fully endorse usage of ObjectSpace's JGL. What a slick 86d82
lugnet.cad:1619 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 74 Lines: 59 22,23c23 "the ice planet sets i did not have on my list i got from someone else.= e.g. i "the ice planet sets i did not have on my list i got from someone else. e.g. i 26,33c26,31 So, if this is the case he had no business demanding you to give him credit= for something he admits he didn't do. BTW if you still want the DFD I've= started it but never gotten around to finishing it, and for someone like you I= could probably try to finish it. It wouldn't have the hoses though because John vanZ still= isn't telling So, if this is the case he had no business demanding you to give him credit for something he admits he didn't do. BTW if you still want the DFD I've started it but never gotten around to finishing it, and for someone like you I could probably try to finish it. It wouldn't have the hoses though because John vanZ still isn't telling 46,47c44 >>colors, similar minifigs and a similar name to my IPDS theme? [1] If it= isn't, >>colors, similar minifigs and a similar name to my IPDS theme? [1] If it isn't, 49,52c46,47 >>Also, your models have some interesting concepts, but they do not appear= to be >>stablely constructed or carefully looked over to check correct placement= of >>Also, your models have some interesting concepts, but they do not appear to be >>stablely constructed or carefully looked over to check correct placement of 54,55c49 >>someone who sees himself as a parts author, I (and others?) would expect= more >>someone who sees himself as a parts author, I (and others?) would expect more 62,75c56,62 >Bram, it is funny you should mention this. To me it seems like he is= ripping >you off and shamelessly not giving credit due. Even funnier and the= reason I >write is that when I asked Jonathan nicely several months ago for= permission >to use a (inaccurate) IP2002 Deep Freeze, he practically DEMANDED that I= give >HIM credit for all his 'hard effort.' His response turned me off= completely >to using one of his designs. By the way you're writing this it appears he= >didn't ask you, which for someone who demands credit is rather= hypocritical. >Bram, it is funny you should mention this. To me it seems like he is ripping >you off and shamelessly not giving credit due. Even funnier and the reason I >write is that when I asked Jonathan nicely several months ago for permission >to use a (inaccurate) IP2002 Deep Freeze, he practically DEMANDED that I give >HIM credit for all his 'hard effort.' His response turned me off completely >to using one of his designs. By the way you're writing this it appears he >didn't ask you, which for someone who demands credit is rather hypocritical. 91,92c78 >AQ+++(6175)[an+++ as++ hn-- sr--] TO++[ob+ dv+ tc-- tt-- tjr.---] TC++ CA+= PI+ >AQ+++(6175)[an+++ as++ hn-- sr--] TO++[ob+ dv+ tc-- tt-- tjr.---] TC++ CA+ PI+ 94d79
lugnet.cad:1627 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 30 Lines: 25 28,29c29 >On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:26:02 GMT, "SCOTT R DENNETT" <dennett@agate.net>= wrote: >On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:26:02 GMT, "SCOTT R DENNETT" <dennett@agate.net> wrote: 31c31 >> It wouldn't have the hoses though because John vanZ still=3D >> It wouldn't have the hoses though because John vanZ still= 35,36c35 >spreadsheet would be pretty useless. It would need to be integrated into= a >spreadsheet would be pretty useless. It would need to be integrated into a 38,39c37 >Until then there are a couple of other options to try that work pretty= well: >Until then there are a couple of other options to try that work pretty well: 42,43c40 >The first one is an all-in-one solution that is an enhancement of the= second >The first one is an all-in-one solution that is an enhancement of the second 45,46c42 >The second two are the simple "manual" method. Seems complex at first,= but >The second two are the simple "manual" method. Seems complex at first, but 50d45
lugnet.cad:1628 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 24 Lines: 21 30,31c31 >After the flaming Ryan gave me in a previous post, I was finally motivated= to >After the flaming Ryan gave me in a previous post, I was finally motivated to 36,39c36,37 >I hope the "learning curve" isn't too steep on this thing, and that you= find >it useful in your projects. Feel free to ask any questions, make= comments, >I hope the "learning curve" isn't too steep on this thing, and that you find >it useful in your projects. Feel free to ask any questions, make comments, 44d41
lugnet.cad:1631 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 23 Lines: 21 21,24c22,23 I assume all I need to do is to enter in the x y z coordinates of the= endpoints and the control points, but what are these points? Then after I put them= in, I assume all I need to do is to enter in the x y z coordinates of the endpoints and the control points, but what are these points? Then after I put them in, 43d41
lugnet.cad:1632 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 66 Lines: 62 27,30c28,29 >Waaagh! Dis set iz da meanest, gruffest bomma what ever went ovah dah= Sulfer >River. Went foh free whole minnuts 'fore got shot down by da Impeeral= 'Ceptor. >Waaagh! Dis set iz da meanest, gruffest bomma what ever went ovah dah Sulfer >River. Went foh free whole minnuts 'fore got shot down by da Impeeral 'Ceptor. 32,33c31 >Wontcha see if youze can pick out what dis obscur...obsker...weirdo= ref'rence >Wontcha see if youze can pick out what dis obscur...obsker...weirdo ref'rence 82,83c80 > 1 4 153.04 -24.38 -210 -.252 .26 -.941 -.068 -.97 -.252 -.97 0 .26= 2450.DAT > 1 4 153.04 -24.38 -210 -.252 .26 -.941 -.068 -.97 -.252 -.97 0 .26 2450.DAT 86d82
lugnet.cad:1635 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 45 Lines: 39 22,29c23,26 in the section of spherical parts, or is it going to be the more= cylandrical parts. I'm sorry but I don't know what the part #'s are right now. I think= I can figure out how to do the endpoints if I know which piece it is going to be,= but it is the control points that I don't understand. Does that help?? Then how= do in the section of spherical parts, or is it going to be the more cylandrical parts. I'm sorry but I don't know what the part #'s are right now. I think I can figure out how to do the endpoints if I know which piece it is going to be, but it is the control points that I don't understand. Does that help?? Then how do 40,42c37,38 >>Ok, I will need some help, because I've never used Excel the proper way= :) >>I assume all I need to do is to enter in the x y z coordinates of the=3D >>Ok, I will need some help, because I've never used Excel the proper way :) >>I assume all I need to do is to enter in the x y z coordinates of the= 44,45c40 >> and the control points, but what are these points? Then after I put= them=3D >> and the control points, but what are these points? Then after I put them= 65d59
lugnet.cad:1643 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 63 Lines: 55 27,28c28 >No, I mean the hsreadme.txt that was included in the zip file. I'd rather= you >No, I mean the hsreadme.txt that was included in the zip file. I'd rather you 34,35c34 >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message= <199904142255390990.0213434A@agate.net>... >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message <199904142255390990.0213434A@agate.net>... 38,41c37,38 >in the section of spherical parts, or is it going to be the more= cylandrical >parts. I'm sorry but I don't know what the part #'s are right now. I think= I >in the section of spherical parts, or is it going to be the more cylandrical >parts. I'm sorry but I don't know what the part #'s are right now. I think I 43,44c40 >figure out how to do the endpoints if I know which piece it is going to= be, >figure out how to do the endpoints if I know which piece it is going to be, 46,47c42 >it is the control points that I don't understand. Does that help?? Then= how do >it is the control points that I don't understand. Does that help?? Then how do 58,60c53,54 >>>Ok, I will need some help, because I've never used Excel the proper way= :) >>>I assume all I need to do is to enter in the x y z coordinates of the=3D >>>Ok, I will need some help, because I've never used Excel the proper way :) >>>I assume all I need to do is to enter in the x y z coordinates of the= 62,63c56 >>> and the control points, but what are these points? Then after I put= them=3D >>> and the control points, but what are these points? Then after I put them= 83d75
lugnet.cad:1645 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 74 Lines: 64 36,37c37 >>No, I mean the hsreadme.txt that was included in the zip file. I'd= rather you >>No, I mean the hsreadme.txt that was included in the zip file. I'd rather you 43,44c43 >>SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message= <199904142255390990.0213434A@agate.net>... >>SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message <199904142255390990.0213434A@agate.net>... 46,51c45,47 >>what the control points are. Are the endpoints going to be the first= parts >>in the section of spherical parts, or is it going to be the more= cylandrical >>parts. I'm sorry but I don't know what the part #'s are right now. I= think I >>what the control points are. Are the endpoints going to be the first parts >>in the section of spherical parts, or is it going to be the more cylandrical >>parts. I'm sorry but I don't know what the part #'s are right now. I think I 53,54c49 >>figure out how to do the endpoints if I know which piece it is going to= be, >>figure out how to do the endpoints if I know which piece it is going to be, 56,57c51 >>it is the control points that I don't understand. Does that help?? Then= how do >>it is the control points that I don't understand. Does that help?? Then how do 68,71c62,63 >>>>Ok, I will need some help, because I've never used Excel the proper way= :) >>>>I assume all I need to do is to enter in the x y z coordinates of= the=3D >>>>Ok, I will need some help, because I've never used Excel the proper way :) >>>>I assume all I need to do is to enter in the x y z coordinates of the= 73,74c65 >>>> and the control points, but what are these points? Then after I put= them=3D >>>> and the control points, but what are these points? Then after I put them= 94d84
lugnet.cad:1651 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 59 Lines: 45 30,31c31 >"Hoser" is an Excel 5.0 workbook which can be used to create flexible= hoses >"Hoser" is an Excel 5.0 workbook which can be used to create flexible hoses 34,39c34,36 >To use Hoser, you will need to know the end point coordinates of the= flexible >portion of the hose. I always place the ends (parts 750 and 755) first,= with >the 755 rotated so that its insertion point is not touching the 750. Then= the >To use Hoser, you will need to know the end point coordinates of the flexible >portion of the hose. I always place the ends (parts 750 and 755) first, with >the 755 rotated so that its insertion point is not touching the 750. Then the 42,47c39,41 >In the spreadsheet, there is a grayed section for inputting the endpoints= and >two "control points." The sign and size of these control points determine= the >shape of the curve. A "-5" value for the x of control point 1 will cause= the >In the spreadsheet, there is a grayed section for inputting the endpoints and >two "control points." The sign and size of these control points determine the >shape of the curve. A "-5" value for the x of control point 1 will cause the 53,56c47,48 >shape just how I want it (usually based on a real-life example). A= sampling >of point values is contained in the "Records" worksheet. I recommend= adding >shape just how I want it (usually based on a real-life example). A sampling >of point values is contained in the "Records" worksheet. I recommend adding 59,64c51,53 >Once the endpoints and control points are entered, the "Hosed" worksheet= will >contain the actual .dat content needed to create your hose. If you "Save= As" >this sheet as a .txt file, you can then open the file "hoser.txt" and copy= the >Once the endpoints and control points are entered, the "Hosed" worksheet will >contain the actual .dat content needed to create your hose. If you "Save As" >this sheet as a .txt file, you can then open the file "hoser.txt" and copy the 67,68c56 >Best of luck. Questions/comments may be sent to= john_NOSPAMvanzwieten@msn.com >Best of luck. Questions/comments may be sent to john_NOSPAMvanzwieten@msn.com 73,74c61 >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message= <199904151141480290.00A8263E@agate.net>... >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message <199904151141480290.00A8263E@agate.net>... 79d65
lugnet.cad:1652 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 66 Lines: 52 37,38c38 >"Hoser" is an Excel 5.0 workbook which can be used to create flexible= hoses >"Hoser" is an Excel 5.0 workbook which can be used to create flexible hoses 41,46c41,43 >To use Hoser, you will need to know the end point coordinates of the= flexible >portion of the hose. I always place the ends (parts 750 and 755) first,= with >the 755 rotated so that its insertion point is not touching the 750. Then= the >To use Hoser, you will need to know the end point coordinates of the flexible >portion of the hose. I always place the ends (parts 750 and 755) first, with >the 755 rotated so that its insertion point is not touching the 750. Then the 49,54c46,48 >In the spreadsheet, there is a grayed section for inputting the endpoints= and >two "control points." The sign and size of these control points determine= the >shape of the curve. A "-5" value for the x of control point 1 will cause= the >In the spreadsheet, there is a grayed section for inputting the endpoints and >two "control points." The sign and size of these control points determine the >shape of the curve. A "-5" value for the x of control point 1 will cause the 60,63c54,55 >shape just how I want it (usually based on a real-life example). A= sampling >of point values is contained in the "Records" worksheet. I recommend= adding >shape just how I want it (usually based on a real-life example). A sampling >of point values is contained in the "Records" worksheet. I recommend adding 66,71c58,60 >Once the endpoints and control points are entered, the "Hosed" worksheet= will >contain the actual .dat content needed to create your hose. If you "Save= As" >this sheet as a .txt file, you can then open the file "hoser.txt" and copy= the >Once the endpoints and control points are entered, the "Hosed" worksheet will >contain the actual .dat content needed to create your hose. If you "Save As" >this sheet as a .txt file, you can then open the file "hoser.txt" and copy the 74,75c63 >Best of luck. Questions/comments may be sent to= john_NOSPAMvanzwieten@msn.com >Best of luck. Questions/comments may be sent to john_NOSPAMvanzwieten@msn.com 80,81c68 >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message= <199904151141480290.00A8263E@agate.net>... >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message <199904151141480290.00A8263E@agate.net>... 86d72
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lugnet.cad:1798 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 34,36c35,36 >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >If most car accidents happen 5 miles away from home, why not just move 10= miles >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >If most car accidents happen 5 miles away from home, why not just move 10 miles 38,39c38 >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
lugnet.cad:1820 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 23 Lines: 21 24,25c25 >I just decided to try my hand at making something that was ACTUALY cool= for >I just decided to try my hand at making something that was ACTUALY cool for 32,34c32,33 >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >If most car accidents happen 5 miles away from home, why not just move 10= miles >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >If most car accidents happen 5 miles away from home, why not just move 10 miles 36c35 >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D--=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 38,39c37,38 Wow, that is cool!! I wouldn't want to meet up with it out in the middle of= nowhere. Wow, that is cool!! I wouldn't want to meet up with it out in the middle of nowhere. 43d41
lugnet.cad:1874 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 28 Lines: 27 34,35c35 >here is a mock up of the piece from the top of the sith infiltrator that= looks >here is a mock up of the piece from the top of the sith infiltrator that looks 48d47
lugnet.cad:1890 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 40 Lines: 39 22,23c23 Upon request a month ago from a swedish L3P user, Mattias = Br=E4ndstr=F6m, Upon request a month ago from a swedish L3P user, Mattias Brändström, 41c41 OpenGL *.c=20 OpenGL *.c 59d58
lugnet.cad:2049 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 21 Lines: 20 19c20 Fredrik Gl=F6ckner answered John VanZwieten: Fredrik Glöckner answered John VanZwieten: 22,25c23,25 >=20 > It's a \(bug\|feature\) in L3P: If there's only one part in the = model, > it's rendered grey. You can solve this by manually altering=20 > > It's a \(bug\|feature\) in L3P: If there's only one part in the model, > it's rendered grey. You can solve this by manually altering 29c29 behaviour of POV, see also http://www.lugnet.com/cad/?n=3D1285 behaviour of POV, see also http://www.lugnet.com/cad/?n=1285 38c38 or 14 and 7, see http://www.lugnet.com/cad/?n=3D2039 or 14 and 7, see http://www.lugnet.com/cad/?n=2039 40d39
lugnet.cad:2069 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Fredrik Gl=F6ckner agreed with John VanZwieten: Fredrik Glöckner agreed with John VanZwieten: 22c23 >=20 > 28d28
lugnet.cad:2104 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 On July 2nd Fredrik Gl=F6ckner wrote: > I've made a short animation. It features a space ship taking=20 On July 2nd Fredrik Glöckner wrote: > I've made a short animation. It features a space ship taking 28d28
lugnet.cad:2270 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 30c31 >Fredrik Gl=F6ckner wrote: >Fredrik Glöckner wrote: 76d76
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lugnet.cad:2315 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 31 Lines: 30 19,20c20,21 Fredrik Gl=F6ckner wrote: >=20 Fredrik Glöckner wrote: > 22c23 >=20 > 24c25 > > 990212 Added support for TRANSLATE, ROTATE, SCALE,=20 > > 990212 Added support for TRANSLATE, ROTATE, SCALE, 27,29c28,29 >=20 > Yup, this version did indeed handle the TRANSLATE and ROTATE = keywords. > > Yup, this version did indeed handle the TRANSLATE and ROTATE keywords. 31,32c31,32 >=20 > I'm not too happy that it did not run under MS-DOS, though. =20 > > I'm not too happy that it did not run under MS-DOS, though. 39c39 > However, it did run under Linux by using WINE, so it's not=20 > However, it did run under Linux by using WINE, so it's not 50d49
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lugnet.cad:3567 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 "FG" =3D=3D Fredrik Gl=F6ckner <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> writes: "FG" == Fredrik Glöckner <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> writes: 26c27 FG> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D192 FG> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=192
lugnet.cad:9439 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 48 Lines: 47 22,24c23,24 I've a project which could benefit from the following, but not the = pieces to verify the integrity of the real-world model. Will somebody = please help? I've a project which could benefit from the following, but not the pieces to verify the integrity of the real-world model. Will somebody please help? 31c31 0 Author: Marlon 'Excelerator' Smith X_LR8R@hotmail.com=20 0 Author: Marlon 'Excelerator' Smith X_LR8R@hotmail.com 34c34 0 ROTATION CENTER 0 0 0 1 "Custom"=20 0 ROTATION CENTER 0 0 0 1 "Custom" 45c45 0 Author: Marlon 'Excelerator' Smith X_LR8R@hotmail.com=20 0 Author: Marlon 'Excelerator' Smith X_LR8R@hotmail.com 47c47 0 ROTATION CENTER 0 0 0 1 "Custom"=20 0 ROTATION CENTER 0 0 0 1 "Custom" 61c61 0 Author: Marlon 'Excelerator' Smith X_LR8R@hotmail.com=20 0 Author: Marlon 'Excelerator' Smith X_LR8R@hotmail.com 63c63 0 ROTATION CENTER 0 0 0 1 "Custom"=20 0 ROTATION CENTER 0 0 0 1 "Custom" 70,71d69
lugnet.cad:9471 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 29 Lines: 26 25,29c26,29 To more closely match the olde English, maybe, "Lo, lo," which means = "Look, look." In whichever form it is stated, however, I must admit to strong = agreement with the sentiment expressed..."An auto updater...would be a = god-send." To more closely match the olde English, maybe, "Lo, lo," which means "Look, look." In whichever form it is stated, however, I must admit to strong agreement with the sentiment expressed..."An auto updater...would be a god-send." 34c34 "John Rudy" <TJJohn12@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message = "John Rudy" <TJJohn12@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message 38c38 >=20 > 40,44c40,42 >=20 > I'm a casual user of the LDraw line, using MLCad to look at different = MOCs > around the community. But, I'm constantly plagued by "Part Number ... = Not > > I'm a casual user of the LDraw line, using MLCad to look at different MOCs > around the community. But, I'm constantly plagued by "Part Number ... Not 46c44 >=20 > 50c48 >=20 > 52d49
lugnet.cad:9501 13c13,14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=35441 26c27 --=20 -- 28d28
lugnet.cad:9504 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 20 Lines: 18 23c24 I submitted without the "3D" immediately after the "=3D" sign. I submitted without the "3D" immediately after the "=" sign. 25,26c26,27 Please open the mindstorm folder, remove the "3D" from the address in = your address bar, make it go, and tell me what you think. Please open the mindstorm folder, remove the "3D" from the address in your address bar, make it go, and tell me what you think. 29,30c30 "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message = news:HB0BFq.FtG@lugnet.com... "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:HB0BFq.FtG@lugnet.com... 32c32 > >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D3D35441 > >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 35c35 > >--=3D20 > >--=20 37,39c37,38 >=20 > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. Can't = wait to > > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. Can't wait to 41c40 >=20 > 43d41
lugnet.cad:9507 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 38 Lines: 33 23,26c24,26 It is probably common for an "=3D" sign to be followed by the "3D" = symbols on the web interface when the post originates in Outlook Express = (just guessing). I think it also adds "=3D20" after "--" in such a post. It is probably common for an "=" sign to be followed by the "3D" symbols on the web interface when the post originates in Outlook Express (just guessing). I think it also adds "=20" after "--" in such a post. 33,34c33 "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message = news:HB0C6p.IC9@lugnet.com... "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:HB0C6p.IC9@lugnet.com... 39,40c38 > >> > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. = Can't > >> > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. Can't 45,46c43 > >> That's wierd His link worked for me. But the link you quoted = didn't. > >> That's wierd His link worked for me. But the link you quoted didn't. 48,49c45 > >> Where did you get the '3D' from?? His original message didn't have = it. > >> Where did you get the '3D' from?? His original message didn't have it. 51c47 > >> try: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 > >> try: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=35441 55c51 >=20 > 57c53 >=20 > 59c55 >=20 > 61d56
lugnet.cad:9508 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22,26c23,27 Wow. Non-web-interface posts (e.g. from Microsoft's Outlook Express) = may appear with various symbols added. These can cause confusion of the = message by both human viewers and by alternate digital/mechanical = readers (such as the web interface). Who knew?! --=20 Wow. Non-web-interface posts (e.g. from Microsoft's Outlook Express) may appear with various symbols added. These can cause confusion of the message by both human viewers and by alternate digital/mechanical readers (such as the web interface). Who knew?! -- 29,30d29
lugnet.cad:9510 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 26 Lines: 25 23c24 Nothing on the scale of your Arcane Family Home, and I have such a small = Nothing on the scale of your Arcane Family Home, and I have such a small 28c29 "Nicole Drumm" <kdrumm1@stny.rr.com> wrote in message = "Nicole Drumm" <kdrumm1@stny.rr.com> wrote in message 32c33 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=35441 37,39c38,39 >=20 > Wow. This is something! With the exception of the telephone like = handle part > > Wow. This is something! With the exception of the telephone like handle part 41c41 >=20 > 47,49c47,48 >=20 >=20 > >
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lugnet.cad:9534 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 54 Lines: 48 31c32 "John Henry Kruer" <jhkruer@yahoo.com> wrote in message = "John Henry Kruer" <jhkruer@yahoo.com> wrote in message 33,38c34,36 > But is this actually an airlock, or a docking port? I've noticed that = alot > of the 'airlocks' made here aften feature only one door. They look = more > like a docking ring to me- anybody opening the door in outer space to = go > But is this actually an airlock, or a docking port? I've noticed that alot > of the 'airlocks' made here aften feature only one door. They look more > like a docking ring to me- anybody opening the door in outer space to go 40c38 >=20 > 42,48c40,43 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3D240706 > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/tboy/Space/jakesjunkship/dsc01658-1.jpg= >=20 > But the actually design of this is pretty cool IMHO. Is this part of = your > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=240706 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/tboy/Space/jakesjunkship/dsc01658-1.jpg > > But the actually design of this is pretty cool IMHO. Is this part of your 50c45 >=20 > 52c47 >=20 > 70c65 > >http://news.lugnet.com/space/?n=3D19348 > >http://news.lugnet.com/space/?n=19348 77d71
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lugnet.cad.dat:229 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 Since it seems that we have advanced from microfig building to nanofig= building, here are a couple of tie fighters :) PLMKWYT Since it seems that we have advanced from microfig building to nanofig building, here are a couple of tie fighters :) PLMKWYT 33d33
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lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets:15 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 34 Lines: 28 34,37c35,36 >>i guess i haven't really taken a look at that particular model before but= i do >>like the design. it is going to be quite cool to see other official= models >>i guess i haven't really taken a look at that particular model before but i do >>like the design. it is going to be quite cool to see other official models 39,42c38,39 >>on the subject of official models (and sorry if this was discussed before= this >>forum was even established) are the pieces placed in the same order as= they >>on the subject of official models (and sorry if this was discussed before this >>forum was even established) are the pieces placed in the same order as they 47,48c44 >Thanks for the compliment. As far as piece placement and order go, I try= to >Thanks for the compliment. As far as piece placement and order go, I try to 50,51c46 >couple of judgement calls with subassemblies though, but it should be= close. >couple of judgement calls with subassemblies though, but it should be close. 54d48
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lugnet.cad.dev:84 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 >1. They are exactly =BD the height of a Lego brick >1. They are exactly ½ the height of a Lego brick 52d52
lugnet.cad.dev:467 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 36 Lines: 25 20,29c21,25 If I use Java 2 I can use the latest API's with it. Because of the Java = plugin that Sun produces, a browser can have that installed and always have the = most up to date Java implementation. This is especially important since Netscape= is no longer doing internal Java development, and it looks like MS may drop Jav= a support altogether. The Java plugin may be the only way to get Java supp= ort If I use Java 2 I can use the latest API's with it. Because of the Java plugin that Sun produces, a browser can have that installed and always have the most up to date Java implementation. This is especially important since Netscape is no longer doing internal Java development, and it looks like MS may drop Java support altogether. The Java plugin may be the only way to get Java support 33,38c29,31 > = > Please before starting take a look at the java3D api, I know java 2 is = not > yet supported directly by most browsers but its just a question of time= and > > Please before starting take a look at the java3D api, I know java 2 is not > yet supported directly by most browsers but its just a question of time and 41,43c34,35 > Greg Williams a =E9crit dans le message > >I've certainly got the skills to write this program. All of the above= > Greg Williams a écrit dans le message > >I've certainly got the skills to write this program. All of the above 45,46c37 > >I've already done in java in some fashion, except for 3d display. I'v= e > >I've already done in java in some fashion, except for 3d display. I've 50,51c41 -- = -- 56d45
lugnet.cad.dev:959 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 36,39c37,40 Sounds good to me. The part number for that piece is the same as any other= 2x4 brick, 3001. I didn't read through the whole original message, but I= assume you are planning to have a totally new category for chrome parts?= If yes, I like that idea. Sounds good to me. The part number for that piece is the same as any other 2x4 brick, 3001. I didn't read through the whole original message, but I assume you are planning to have a totally new category for chrome parts? If yes, I like that idea. 46d46
lugnet.cad.dev:994 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25,27c26,28 Very nice. I like some of your models. It is also nice having pictures for= different angles. I didn't read through the text, but it looks like you= put quite a bit of time into making the pages. Good job :) Very nice. I like some of your models. It is also nice having pictures for different angles. I didn't read through the text, but it looks like you put quite a bit of time into making the pages. Good job :) 31d31
lugnet.cad.dev:1030 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 20,23c21,24 I have no authority over anyone like Terry and Steve do, but I must say= that the curve is much better on this piece although there are quite a few= studs missing. You might want to fix that or else it will never make it= past anyone's approval :) I have no authority over anyone like Terry and Steve do, but I must say that the curve is much better on this piece although there are quite a few studs missing. You might want to fix that or else it will never make it past anyone's approval :) 35,36c36 >i can go to more segments but i thought that 32 is the best trade off= between >i can go to more segments but i thought that 32 is the best trade off between 39d38
lugnet.cad.dev:1031 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25,29c26,30 I have done a fair amount of TLG models and plan to work on some more after= I get a couple of MOCs Ldrawed. I would be very willing(and plan) to= donate these. Also if anyone would like I could TRY keeping a list of= which sets each person is going to donate. I don't know if this is wanted= but I thought I could at least offer to help out in some aspect. I have done a fair amount of TLG models and plan to work on some more after I get a couple of MOCs Ldrawed. I would be very willing(and plan) to donate these. Also if anyone would like I could TRY keeping a list of which sets each person is going to donate. I don't know if this is wanted but I thought I could at least offer to help out in some aspect. 40d40
lugnet.cad.dev:1033 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 45 Lines: 42 27,28c28 >work with me on the layout and look and feel of the site [1] [2] and= others >work with me on the layout and look and feel of the site [1] [2] and others 44,45c44 >(this consists of a banner exchange with ldraw banners on the ring site= and >(this consists of a banner exchange with ldraw banners on the ring site and 53,62c52,60 I think that we should make the setup(ie catagories, etc.) the same as what= they are on the JJM so that people don't have to go searching for links or= anything else. I feel that Ldraw.org should basically be an expanded JJM= with a different name. Although I never knew James I feel that we still= ought to have at least one page set up as a memorial, and also maybe a= thank-you/credits page to those who put so much of there free time into= expanding the LDraw resources. I know that it's not much but Tim did say= that "any and all ideas are welcome", but these are just some things that= I feel would be important. Good luck to those of you as you work on this= project, I know it will turn out great :-) I think that we should make the setup(ie catagories, etc.) the same as what they are on the JJM so that people don't have to go searching for links or anything else. I feel that Ldraw.org should basically be an expanded JJM with a different name. Although I never knew James I feel that we still ought to have at least one page set up as a memorial, and also maybe a thank-you/credits page to those who put so much of there free time into expanding the LDraw resources. I know that it's not much but Tim did say that "any and all ideas are welcome", but these are just some things that I feel would be important. Good luck to those of you as you work on this project, I know it will turn out great :-) 65d62
lugnet.cad.dev:1043 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 55 Lines: 51 20,33c21,33 I have to agree here. Some of your messages are kind of(sometimes very)= confusing. And when you reply to a message you delete what was in the= message rather than leaving the part of the original message you were= replying to. If you were to do that, then that would help A LOT. Also like= Sproat said punctuation and caps would also help, and even punctuation= would make the messages easier to read. For example you could write what= you did like this so that it would sound ok when reading it. "since i posted the announcement, i have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder= support'." or "Since I posted the announcement, I have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder= support'." rather than "since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder= support" I have to agree here. Some of your messages are kind of(sometimes very) confusing. And when you reply to a message you delete what was in the message rather than leaving the part of the original message you were replying to. If you were to do that, then that would help A LOT. Also like Sproat said punctuation and caps would also help, and even punctuation would make the messages easier to read. For example you could write what you did like this so that it would sound ok when reading it. "since i posted the announcement, i have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder support'." or "Since I posted the announcement, I have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder support'." rather than "since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder support" 35,36c35,36 I think you know that we are not angry at you but just a little fustrated= at your "unique" writing style :) I think you know that we are not angry at you but just a little fustrated at your "unique" writing style :) 39,40c39,40 ps I will compliment you on your reply to my message because you did use= good punctuation there :) ps I will compliment you on your reply to my message because you did use good punctuation there :) 47,48c47 >> since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder= support >> since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder support 58,59c57 >1. i dont want to cramp your almost unique style but it is hard to read= and >1. i dont want to cramp your almost unique style but it is hard to read and 62,63c60 >i know its not fair that other people can do it this way and get read it= can >i know its not fair that other people can do it this way and get read it can 75d71
lugnet.cad.dev:1048 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 30 Lines: 29 20,22c21,23 I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked the= message on the web and it was in your post that showed up with the line= being long, not mine. I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked the message on the web and it was in your post that showed up with the line being long, not mine. 32,38c33,39 >> I have to agree here. Some of your messages are kind of(sometimes very)= confusing. And when you reply to a message you delete what was in the= message rather than leaving the part of the original message you were= replying to. If you were to do that, then that would help A LOT. Also like= Sproat said punctuation and caps would also help, and even punctuation= would make the messages easier to read. For example you could write what= you did like this so that it would sound ok when reading it. >> I have to agree here. Some of your messages are kind of(sometimes very) >> confusing. And when you reply to a message you delete what was in the message >> rather than leaving the part of the original message you were replying to. If >> you were to do that, then that would help A LOT. Also like Sproat said >> punctuation and caps would also help, and even punctuation would make the >> messages easier to read. For example you could write what you did like this >> so that it would sound ok when reading it. 40,45c41,45 >> "since i posted the announcement, i have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder= support'." or >> "Since I posted the announcement, I have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder= support'." rather than >> "since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder= support" >> "since i posted the announcement, i have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder >> support'." or >> "Since I posted the announcement, I have added 'not disk' and 'cylinder >> support'." rather than >> "since i posted the announcement i have added not disk and cylinder support" 50d49
lugnet.cad.dev:1053 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 130 Lines: 128 44,45c45 >> the light font that is displayed at the lego.com's about us section. = Also, >> the light font that is displayed at the lego.com's about us section. Also, 94,95c94 >> it default to English and give options somewhere near the top for= different >> it default to English and give options somewhere near the top for different 101c100 >> /fran=E7ais/ >> /français/ 151d149
lugnet.cad.dev:1056 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 67 Lines: 66 22,23c23,24 >several inportant corrections. the pattern accually goes right up to the= edges now. >several inportant corrections. the pattern accually goes right up to the edges >now. 30,32c31,33 Very good. The lines look good even in .5x 3d view, but on the front side= the green lines do not extend to the edge like on the back side. Also like= many of your other road plates, it's missing a fair amount of studs. Very good. The lines look good even in .5x 3d view, but on the front side the green lines do not extend to the edge like on the back side. Also like many of your other road plates, it's missing a fair amount of studs. 34,35c35,36 >the only known issue is the edge curving. i have no plans to do that= untill someone else does the canyon plate. >the only known issue is the edge curving. i have no plans to do that untill >someone else does the canyon plate. 41,42c42,43 In Ledit the walls didn't show up in any of these views. I only checked 1x= and .5x views In Ledit the walls didn't show up in any of these views. I only checked 1x and .5x views 49,50c50,51 At least your being consistant, although it would be nice if the walls= showed up in all views & all zoom factors :) At least your being consistant, although it would be nice if the walls showed up in all views & all zoom factors :) 66,72c67,72 Jonathan, it might be best to look at your parts in Ledit before sending= them out for people to inspect. If you were to do that you would save= yourself and others a lot of trouble. Do me a favor and check out this= piece in Ledit from a few different views and zoom factors and tell me= what you see :( I haven't even bothered to look at the pieces in Ldlite,= because the first place people who wre making models are going to see them= is in Ledit. Jonathan, it might be best to look at your parts in Ledit before sending them out for people to inspect. If you were to do that you would save yourself and others a lot of trouble. Do me a favor and check out this piece in Ledit from a few different views and zoom factors and tell me what you see :( I haven't even bothered to look at the pieces in Ldlite, because the first place people who wre making models are going to see them is in Ledit. 81,82c81,82 Looks good from 1x 3d view, but in .5x 3d view the white and green extends= past the black lines. Also it is missing a fair amount of studs. Looks good from 1x 3d view, but in .5x 3d view the white and green extends past the black lines. Also it is missing a fair amount of studs. 84,85c84,85 I'll check out the other few later, but I can already guess what they'll= look like. I'll check out the other few later, but I can already guess what they'll look like. 87d86
lugnet.cad.dev:1062 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 29 Lines: 24 20,21c21,22 I'll see if I can find a way to change it. I don't read all the groups so I= don't see all the things like that that could be helpful. I'll see if I can find a way to change it. I don't read all the groups so I don't see all the things like that that could be helpful. 29,30c30 >> I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked= the >> I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked the 35,36c35 >That's probably because your newsreader isn't set to wrap out-going= messages or >That's probably because your newsreader isn't set to wrap out-going messages or 38,41c37,38 >understand the protocol, but not all other newsreaders do. When the= message is >replied to, it drops the protocol, resulting in everyone seeing it as a= single >understand the protocol, but not all other newsreaders do. When the message is >replied to, it drops the protocol, resulting in everyone seeing it as a single 46,47c43 >P.S. Take this with a grain of salt, because most of my understanding of= line >P.S. Take this with a grain of salt, because most of my understanding of line 49d44
lugnet.cad.dev:1077 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 51 Lines: 45 20,21c21,22 Um, I don't think that's possible because I haven't figured out how to= change line length yet :) I will look into it though. Um, I don't think that's possible because I haven't figured out how to change line length yet :) I will look into it though. 30,31c31 >Did you set your margins wide to post to cad.dat and then forget to set= them >Did you set your margins wide to post to cad.dat and then forget to set them 37,40c37,38 >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message= <199904091649310170.01A13BDC@agate.net>... >I'll see if I can find a way to change it. I don't read all the groups so= I >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message <199904091649310170.01A13BDC@agate.net>... >I'll see if I can find a way to change it. I don't read all the groups so I 49,50c47 >>> I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked= the >>> I'm sorry but it did not show up like that in email for me. I checked the 55,56c52 >>That's probably because your newsreader isn't set to wrap out-going= messages >>That's probably because your newsreader isn't set to wrap out-going messages 59,60c55 >>understand the protocol, but not all other newsreaders do. When the= message >>understand the protocol, but not all other newsreaders do. When the message 71d65
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lugnet.cad.dev:1208 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 30 Lines: 26 20,21c21 I think that this would be a good idea, just like it would be good to have= a I think that this would be a good idea, just like it would be good to have a 24,25c24 There are a million(well not quite) other newsgroup sub catagories that= would There are a million(well not quite) other newsgroup sub catagories that would 35,36c34 >> Repository to lugnet.cad.dev. It is simpler to keep the discussion of= the >> Repository to lugnet.cad.dev. It is simpler to keep the discussion of the 39,40c37 >> Todd, do you feel its appropriate to create a new (temporary) newsgroup= for >> Todd, do you feel its appropriate to create a new (temporary) newsgroup for 50d46
lugnet.cad.dev:1241 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 104 Lines: 97 27,28c28 > not having a general catch-all group -- where do new paradigms go as= they > not having a general catch-all group -- where do new paradigms go as they 32,33c32,33 I think that having a cad.dat.creations would be a great idea but I have to= agree, What would happen to cad.dat? I think that having a cad.dat.creations would be a great idea but I have to agree, What would happen to cad.dat? 54,55c54 I think that these should be considered MOCs, but with the set as a= reference. I think that these should be considered MOCs, but with the set as a reference. 85,86c84 > weird part, how would you use that?" and then click a link which= *shows* > weird part, how would you use that?" and then click a link which *shows* 88,89c86 > be able to do cross referencing of parts, you should be able to jump= into > be able to do cross referencing of parts, you should be able to jump into 93,94c90 Now that is one good idea. That would be good for newer modelers and= experianced Now that is one good idea. That would be good for newer modelers and experianced 99,100c95 > We haven't seen too many "scenes" yet, perhaps because people are= having > We haven't seen too many "scenes" yet, perhaps because people are having 102,103c97 > isn't a large enough collection of models out there to pick & choose= from > isn't a large enough collection of models out there to pick & choose from 124d117
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lugnet.cad.dev:1474 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 35 Lines: 25 22,31c23,27 >The model repository will be hosted in the lugnet.cad.dat.* heirarchy, and= >needs to be organized and regulated by two to three volunteers.=A0 I= reccommend >Todd for leader on this area since he has the best knowledge of the LUGNET= >server and can definitely be responsible for this area.=A0 Volunteers here= need >to work with me on working these models into the website for display.=A0 I= don't >The model repository will be hosted in the lugnet.cad.dat.* heirarchy, and >needs to be organized and regulated by two to three volunteers. I reccommend >Todd for leader on this area since he has the best knowledge of the LUGNET >server and can definitely be responsible for this area. Volunteers here need >to work with me on working these models into the website for display. I don't 34,38c30,32 >In the mean time, volunteers in this area can gather already made TLG= models >and review them and either approve, correct, or reject them for submission= >into the database.=A0 The models gathered should be organized within the >In the mean time, volunteers in this area can gather already made TLG models >and review them and either approve, correct, or reject them for submission >into the database. The models gathered should be organized within the 41,44c35,36 >A model repository can be created to host unofficial MOC creations if= authors >desire them to be made available there.=A0 I'll leave this one up for= discussion. >A model repository can be created to host unofficial MOC creations if authors >desire them to be made available there. I'll leave this one up for discussion. 46,51c38,42 I'll help with reviewing the models. I think the best thing to do would me= to get a cad.dat.officialmodels or whatever it will be called up sometime soon, so= that people can post their TLG models there and then they can be reviewed,= fixed, etc. I'll help with reviewing the models. I think the best thing to do would me to get a cad.dat.officialmodels or whatever it will be called up sometime soon, so that people can post their TLG models there and then they can be reviewed, fixed, etc. 55d45
lugnet.cad.dev:1548 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 >I'm working toward=20 >I'm working toward 24c25 >with=20 >with 26,28c27,29 >logically,=20 >metalogically, mentally, psychologically, sociopsycologically, umm,=20 >foofoologically, umm, meta=FCberpharmacobiologically, etc. :-) >logically, >metalogically, mentally, psychologically, sociopsycologically, umm, >foofoologically, umm, metaüberpharmacobiologically, etc. :-) 30c31 >I agree with that dat postings and comments should be closely related.=20 >I agree with that dat postings and comments should be closely related. 48d48
lugnet.cad.dev:1558 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 14 Lines: 12 21,24c22,23 >Your part is well done and complete, congratulations. This part would= easily >be voted in, so my furthur suggestions are just that, suggestions for= improving >Your part is well done and complete, congratulations. This part would easily >be voted in, so my furthur suggestions are just that, suggestions for improving 26,29c25,28 Hmmm. Someone didn't view in Ldlite or else my file is messed up because in= Ldlite I only get color on the center of the handle. But other than that it is= great. The shape Hmmm. Someone didn't view in Ldlite or else my file is messed up because in Ldlite I only get color on the center of the handle. But other than that it is great. The shape 33d31
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lugnet.cad.dev:1636 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 21 Lines: 20 32,33c33 >>>I believe all of John VanZ's SW parts are due to be released on the= 19th. >>>I believe all of John VanZ's SW parts are due to be released on the 19th. 41d40
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lugnet.cad.dev:1668 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 38 Lines: 30 30,35c31,33 >Yes - in fact the red (maroon actually, not TLG red) and blue versions are= in >the latest voting download as 9326p48 and p49 (but not on the voting page= - see >Terry's apology at= http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.cad.dev:1651) >Yes - in fact the red (maroon actually, not TLG red) and blue versions are in >the latest voting download as 9326p48 and p49 (but not on the voting page - see >Terry's apology at http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.cad.dev:1651) 37,38c35 Ah, that was the second wave. The first wave was red red, then they went to= the Ah, that was the second wave. The first wave was red red, then they went to the 41,46c38,40 >We have plenty of 9326p... numbers left, and using this suggested approach= for >the dungarees torso seems to have created confusion, so I would prefer to= make >another decorated part for the black collar version (probably p50). And= perhaps >We have plenty of 9326p... numbers left, and using this suggested approach for >the dungarees torso seems to have created confusion, so I would prefer to make >another decorated part for the black collar version (probably p50). And perhaps 50,55c44,48 Yes, but eventually we'll run out as I beliaeve that there must be by now= almost 100 torso patterns out of the 100 available. It's a questionable thing, but= I think that the collar should be the 16 color, granted it would take away some= creativity Yes, but eventually we'll run out as I beliaeve that there must be by now almost 100 torso patterns out of the 100 available. It's a questionable thing, but I think that the collar should be the 16 color, granted it would take away some creativity 58d50
lugnet.cad.dev:1674 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 37 Lines: 31 22,23c23 >>Ah, that was the second wave. The first wave was red red, then they went= to=3D >>Ah, that was the second wave. The first wave was red red, then they went to= 28,29c28 >Thanks for that info - I assume you actually have one rather than= intepreting >Thanks for that info - I assume you actually have one rather than intepreting 35,36c34 >>Yes, but eventually we'll run out as I beliaeve that there must be by= now=3D >>Yes, but eventually we'll run out as I beliaeve that there must be by now= 38,39c36 >>100 torso patterns out of the 100 available. It's a questionable thing,= but=3D >>100 torso patterns out of the 100 available. It's a questionable thing, but= 41,42c38 >>that the collar should be the 16 color, granted it would take away= some=3D >>that the collar should be the 16 color, granted it would take away some= 51,52c47 Duh, that would be true. I guess we wouldn't have to worry about running= out Duh, that would be true. I guess we wouldn't have to worry about running out 57d51
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lugnet.cad.dev:1942 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 >I haven't posted in a while concerning ldraw.org.=A0 So far, a handful of >I haven't posted in a while concerning ldraw.org. So far, a handful of 24c25 >have been created, along with a few templates.=A0 I will end up doing the >have been created, along with a few templates. I will end up doing the 50d50
lugnet.cad.dev:1996 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 4 clicks =3D 90=BA then that must mean that 2 would =3D 45=BA and half of 4 clicks = 90º then that must mean that 2 would = 45º and half of 23c24 would be 22.5=BA Thanks anyway though. Are you working on the click would be 22.5º Thanks anyway though. Are you working on the click 40d40
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lugnet.cad.dev:3312 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 91 Lines: 81 28,29c29 >Reading the <http://www.ldraw.org/about/> page, I always thought it was= just >Reading the <http://www.ldraw.org/about/> page, I always thought it was just 31,34c31,32 >was to unify LDraw things that were specifically LEGO-related (i.e., not= for >non-LEGO stuff). But maybe that's just how I always read it, always= assuming >was to unify LDraw things that were specifically LEGO-related (i.e., not for >non-LEGO stuff). But maybe that's just how I always read it, always assuming 37,38c35 I read that page and I don't recall 'Lego' being mentioned once. But your= =20 I read that page and I don't recall 'Lego' being mentioned once. But your 41,42c38 > > Not allowing non-Lego LDraw models on the site would be contradicting= that > > Not allowing non-Lego LDraw models on the site would be contradicting that 47,48c43 The 'Centralized LDraw Resources' is, but the meaning behind it is subject= =20 The 'Centralized LDraw Resources' is, but the meaning behind it is subject 61,62c56,57 Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! You've proven your point here, Todd=20 :) There is NO WAY the site will be reduced to that. LDraw was intended=20 Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! You've proven your point here, Todd :) There is NO WAY the site will be reduced to that. LDraw was intended 71,74c66,68 It shows (and I hate the word) tolerance for them, which as a purist, is=20 intolerable. Though showing acceptance for clones can be sugar coated into= =20 the promotion of the community, its abandoning the standards and the=20 It shows (and I hate the word) tolerance for them, which as a purist, is intolerable. Though showing acceptance for clones can be sugar coated into the promotion of the community, its abandoning the standards and the 83,86c77,78 >solid plastic toy, LDraw is and always has been for LEGO=AE brand= construction >toy elements (right?), and ldraw.org was set up specifically with LEGO=AE= (not >solid plastic toy, LDraw is and always has been for LEGO® brand construction >toy elements (right?), and ldraw.org was set up specifically with LEGO® (not 89,94c81,85 It was set up with specifically Lego in mind, but at the time it was set=20 up, the thought of clones being modeled in LDraw was not an issue. It was= =20 *assumed* to be the case that only Lego models would be made until people=20 started to color outside the lines. So there is no requirement to keep=20 ldraw.org 'pure,' but at the same time refusing to keep it pure would=20 It was set up with specifically Lego in mind, but at the time it was set up, the thought of clones being modeled in LDraw was not an issue. It was *assumed* to be the case that only Lego models would be made until people started to color outside the lines. So there is no requirement to keep ldraw.org 'pure,' but at the same time refusing to keep it pure would 97,98c88,89 I'm kinda goin back on what I said about hosting clone stuff before, but=20 Todd brings up some critical points here. Lets focus on the Lego brand,=20 I'm kinda goin back on what I said about hosting clone stuff before, but Todd brings up some critical points here. Lets focus on the Lego brand, 110c101 You know what you'll never see?? A fat Chinese man with flaming red hair=20 You know what you'll never see?? A fat Chinese man with flaming red hair 112d102
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lugnet.cad.dev:4011 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 >=20 > 27c28 > converted by the CAD software to triangles. That's=20 > converted by the CAD software to triangles. That's 35c36 Does STL allow only for triangles ? no Quads ? no N sided Polygons ?=20 Does STL allow only for triangles ? no Quads ? no N sided Polygons ? 42,43c43,44 > the angle is lower than a certain value (about=20 > 45=B0) the line is optional. > the angle is lower than a certain value (about > 45°) the line is optional. 59c60 > adjacent facets. I have to improve it so it check also=20 > adjacent facets. I have to improve it so it check also 90c91 different directions depending on the poly beeing drawn.=20 different directions depending on the poly beeing drawn. 102,103c103 =09Rui Martins Rui Martins
lugnet.cad.dev:4015 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 > >Does STL allow only for triangles ? no Quads ? no N sided Polygons ?=20 >=20 > >Does STL allow only for triangles ? no Quads ? no N sided Polygons ? > 31c32 >=20 > 33c34 >=20 > 37c38 > if abs(angle) < 45=B0 > if abs(angle) < 45° 68c69 > A value between 45=B0 and 22.5=B0 should be ok. > A value between 45° and 22.5° should be ok. 86c87 > >> adjacent facets. I have to improve it so it check also=20 > >> adjacent facets. I have to improve it so it check also 103c104 A correct case=20 A correct case 108,111c109,112 Quad =3D (1 3 4 2) Try1 =3D (3 6 4) Try2 =3D (6 7 4) Try3 =3D (4 7 5) Quad = (1 3 4 2) Try1 = (3 6 4) Try2 = (6 7 4) Try3 = (4 7 5) 117c118 If an Edge belongs to a sigle triangle then it's a=20 If an Edge belongs to a sigle triangle then it's a 133,134c134 =09Rui Martins Rui Martins
lugnet.cad.dev:8351 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 29 Lines: 26 25,29c26,29 To more closely match the olde English, maybe, "Lo, lo," which means = "Look, look." In whichever form it is stated, however, I must admit to strong = agreement with the sentiment expressed..."An auto updater...would be a = god-send." To more closely match the olde English, maybe, "Lo, lo," which means "Look, look." In whichever form it is stated, however, I must admit to strong agreement with the sentiment expressed..."An auto updater...would be a god-send." 34c34 "John Rudy" <TJJohn12@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message = "John Rudy" <TJJohn12@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message 38c38 >=20 > 40,44c40,42 >=20 > I'm a casual user of the LDraw line, using MLCad to look at different = MOCs > around the community. But, I'm constantly plagued by "Part Number ... = Not > > I'm a casual user of the LDraw line, using MLCad to look at different MOCs > around the community. But, I'm constantly plagued by "Part Number ... Not 46c44 >=20 > 50c48 >=20 > 52d49
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lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw:7 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 >I haven't posted in a while concerning ldraw.org.=A0 So far, a handful of >I haven't posted in a while concerning ldraw.org. So far, a handful of 24c25 >have been created, along with a few templates.=A0 I will end up doing the >have been created, along with a few templates. I will end up doing the 50d50
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw:85 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 74c75 Podrace=99 set -- Podrace™ set -- 168c169 > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\1974-90A\MAIN.DAT =3D> Flyercracker > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\1974-90A\MAIN.DAT => Flyercracker 170c171 > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\1974-90B\MAIN.DAT =3D> Smuggler's > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\1974-90B\MAIN.DAT => Smuggler's 172,176c173,177 > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\1974-90C\MAIN.DAT =3D> Star Quest > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN.DAT =3D> Mos Espa Podrace=99 - Anakin > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-A.DAT =3D> podracer > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BA.DAT =3D> service > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\1974-90C\MAIN.DAT => Star Quest > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN.DAT => Mos Espa Podrace™ - Anakin > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-A.DAT => podracer > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BA.DAT => service 178,182c179,183 > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BB.DAT =3D> pit droid > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN.DAT =3D> Mos Espa Podrace=99 - Gasgano > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-A.DAT =3D> podracer > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BA.DAT =3D> service > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BB.DAT => pit droid > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN.DAT => Mos Espa Podrace™ - Gasgano > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-A.DAT => podracer > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BA.DAT => service 184,188c185,189 > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BB.DAT =3D> pit droid > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN.DAT =3D> Mos Espa Podrace=99 - Sebulba > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-A.DAT =3D> podracer > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BA.DAT =3D> service > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BB.DAT => pit droid > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN.DAT => Mos Espa Podrace™ - Sebulba > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-A.DAT => podracer > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BA.DAT => service 190c191 > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BB.DAT =3D> pit droid > C:\LDRAW\MODELS\SETS\7171-99A\MAIN-BB.DAT => pit droid 205d205
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw:273 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 33 Lines: 31 21c22 At 06:08 AM 7/8/99 , Fredrik Gl=F6ckner wrote: At 06:08 AM 7/8/99 , Fredrik Glöckner wrote: 39,43c40,42 Large is good, either way though. Whatever you feel is your best work and= =20 whatever you would like to see there. Povray would be best, but ldlite is= =20 acceptable. You can do artificial backdrops, see the nebula backdrop on=20 Large is good, either way though. Whatever you feel is your best work and whatever you would like to see there. Povray would be best, but ldlite is acceptable. You can do artificial backdrops, see the nebula backdrop on 54d52
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw:340 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 42 Lines: 39 21c22 At 08:47 AM 7/18/99 , Fredrik Gl=F6ckner wrote: At 08:47 AM 7/18/99 , Fredrik Glöckner wrote: 34,36c35,36 That's the way it is. Read http://www.ldraw.org/webring/agreement/ Its=20 one of my pet peeves too, as a surfer but especially as a ringmaster of two= =20 That's the way it is. Read http://www.ldraw.org/webring/agreement/ Its one of my pet peeves too, as a surfer but especially as a ringmaster of two 47,52c47,50 Since each browser is different, you should know and learn your own=20 browser's image saving feature. Simply it is just telling your browser to= =20 save the image displayed on your hard drive. It is no different than=20 saving any other image. Typically, it is a right click on the image and a= =20 Since each browser is different, you should know and learn your own browser's image saving feature. Simply it is just telling your browser to save the image displayed on your hard drive. It is no different than saving any other image. Typically, it is a right click on the image and a 61,63c59,60 Get paid to surf the web! Visit:=20 http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=3DDGO655 Get paid to surf the web! Visit: http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=DGO655
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw:399 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 On the Mindspring error - this is the reply I got from their tech=20 On the Mindspring error - this is the reply I got from their tech 69c70 >=F2 >ò 76c77 >=F2 >ò 106d106
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw:553 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 91 Lines: 81 28,29c29 >Reading the <http://www.ldraw.org/about/> page, I always thought it was= just >Reading the <http://www.ldraw.org/about/> page, I always thought it was just 31,34c31,32 >was to unify LDraw things that were specifically LEGO-related (i.e., not= for >non-LEGO stuff). But maybe that's just how I always read it, always= assuming >was to unify LDraw things that were specifically LEGO-related (i.e., not for >non-LEGO stuff). But maybe that's just how I always read it, always assuming 37,38c35 I read that page and I don't recall 'Lego' being mentioned once. But your= =20 I read that page and I don't recall 'Lego' being mentioned once. But your 41,42c38 > > Not allowing non-Lego LDraw models on the site would be contradicting= that > > Not allowing non-Lego LDraw models on the site would be contradicting that 47,48c43 The 'Centralized LDraw Resources' is, but the meaning behind it is subject= =20 The 'Centralized LDraw Resources' is, but the meaning behind it is subject 61,62c56,57 Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! You've proven your point here, Todd=20 :) There is NO WAY the site will be reduced to that. LDraw was intended=20 Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! You've proven your point here, Todd :) There is NO WAY the site will be reduced to that. LDraw was intended 71,74c66,68 It shows (and I hate the word) tolerance for them, which as a purist, is=20 intolerable. Though showing acceptance for clones can be sugar coated into= =20 the promotion of the community, its abandoning the standards and the=20 It shows (and I hate the word) tolerance for them, which as a purist, is intolerable. Though showing acceptance for clones can be sugar coated into the promotion of the community, its abandoning the standards and the 83,86c77,78 >solid plastic toy, LDraw is and always has been for LEGO=AE brand= construction >toy elements (right?), and ldraw.org was set up specifically with LEGO=AE= (not >solid plastic toy, LDraw is and always has been for LEGO® brand construction >toy elements (right?), and ldraw.org was set up specifically with LEGO® (not 89,94c81,85 It was set up with specifically Lego in mind, but at the time it was set=20 up, the thought of clones being modeled in LDraw was not an issue. It was= =20 *assumed* to be the case that only Lego models would be made until people=20 started to color outside the lines. So there is no requirement to keep=20 ldraw.org 'pure,' but at the same time refusing to keep it pure would=20 It was set up with specifically Lego in mind, but at the time it was set up, the thought of clones being modeled in LDraw was not an issue. It was *assumed* to be the case that only Lego models would be made until people started to color outside the lines. So there is no requirement to keep ldraw.org 'pure,' but at the same time refusing to keep it pure would 97,98c88,89 I'm kinda goin back on what I said about hosting clone stuff before, but=20 Todd brings up some critical points here. Lets focus on the Lego brand,=20 I'm kinda goin back on what I said about hosting clone stuff before, but Todd brings up some critical points here. Lets focus on the Lego brand, 110c101 You know what you'll never see?? A fat Chinese man with flaming red hair=20 You know what you'll never see?? A fat Chinese man with flaming red hair 112d102
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw:913 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 88 Lines: 79 22,24c23,24 People who are going to display their models at the Kidvention need to=20 submit their .dat files or completed rendering images (preferred) to me, NO= =20 People who are going to display their models at the Kidvention need to submit their .dat files or completed rendering images (preferred) to me, NO 27,35c27,31 If you're submitting a rendering, please submit in PNG format [1] rendered= =20 at 3000x2250 [2] to my email address at tim@zacktron.com. This image will= =20 be placed on a 17x22" poster, with the name of author, title of model, and= =20 email address of author (LMK if you DON'T want your email on the=20 poster). If you include your snail mail, I'll do my best to get the poster= =20 If you're submitting a rendering, please submit in PNG format [1] rendered at 3000x2250 [2] to my email address at tim@zacktron.com. This image will be placed on a 17x22" poster, with the name of author, title of model, and email address of author (LMK if you DON'T want your email on the poster). If you include your snail mail, I'll do my best to get the poster 38,41c34,36 If you're submitting a .dat file, please include POV camera position=20 instructions so it can be rendered the way you want it. The image will be= =20 treated same as described above. Please send zip files for multiple=20 If you're submitting a .dat file, please include POV camera position instructions so it can be rendered the way you want it. The image will be treated same as described above. Please send zip files for multiple 44,46c39,40 Here are the models which I am for sure showing, Those I have/will get a=20 physical model for have a P after them. There are several other models up= =20 Here are the models which I am for sure showing, Those I have/will get a physical model for have a P after them. There are several other models up 70c64 Fredrik Gl=F6ckner <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no>: Fredrik Glöckner <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no>: 84c78 If anyone else is sending their physical models, LET ME KNOW=20 If anyone else is sending their physical models, LET ME KNOW 87,90c81,82 Please send comments and suggestions. And remember, get your models in to= =20 me NO LATER THAN JULY 1. I need time to organize and put the images on CD= =20 Please send comments and suggestions. And remember, get your models in to me NO LATER THAN JULY 1. I need time to organize and put the images on CD 95c87 [1] Photoshop 5x handles PNG, and possibly PSP as well - its a lossless=20 [1] Photoshop 5x handles PNG, and possibly PSP as well - its a lossless 108d99
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw:984 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 22c23 "Tony Kilaras" <kilaras@speedus.com> wrote in message = "Tony Kilaras" <kilaras@speedus.com> wrote in message 24,25c25 > In this pic: bricksmiths2_ship.jpg you have a ship I've never seen = before. Are > In this pic: bricksmiths2_ship.jpg you have a ship I've never seen before. Are 28,31c28,31 The ship belongs to Thomas Michon, no I don't have any other pictures. = He's 13, and an international Lego building champion. That ship is = EXTREMELY detailed and AWESOME. And no, its not a part of the Guild (I = had that question once already...) The ship belongs to Thomas Michon, no I don't have any other pictures. He's 13, and an international Lego building champion. That ship is EXTREMELY detailed and AWESOME. And no, its not a part of the Guild (I had that question once already...) 35c35 --=20 -- 44d43
lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw:2262 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 29 Lines: 26 25,29c26,29 To more closely match the olde English, maybe, "Lo, lo," which means = "Look, look." In whichever form it is stated, however, I must admit to strong = agreement with the sentiment expressed..."An auto updater...would be a = god-send." To more closely match the olde English, maybe, "Lo, lo," which means "Look, look." In whichever form it is stated, however, I must admit to strong agreement with the sentiment expressed..."An auto updater...would be a god-send." 34c34 "John Rudy" <TJJohn12@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message = "John Rudy" <TJJohn12@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message 38c38 >=20 > 40,44c40,42 >=20 > I'm a casual user of the LDraw line, using MLCad to look at different = MOCs > around the community. But, I'm constantly plagued by "Part Number ... = Not > > I'm a casual user of the LDraw line, using MLCad to look at different MOCs > around the community. But, I'm constantly plagued by "Part Number ... Not 46c44 >=20 > 50c48 >=20 > 52d49
lugnet.cad.mlcad:1559 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 29 Lines: 26 25,29c26,29 To more closely match the olde English, maybe, "Lo, lo," which means = "Look, look." In whichever form it is stated, however, I must admit to strong = agreement with the sentiment expressed..."An auto updater...would be a = god-send." To more closely match the olde English, maybe, "Lo, lo," which means "Look, look." In whichever form it is stated, however, I must admit to strong agreement with the sentiment expressed..."An auto updater...would be a god-send." 34c34 "John Rudy" <TJJohn12@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message = "John Rudy" <TJJohn12@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message 38c38 >=20 > 40,44c40,42 >=20 > I'm a casual user of the LDraw line, using MLCad to look at different = MOCs > around the community. But, I'm constantly plagued by "Part Number ... = Not > > I'm a casual user of the LDraw line, using MLCad to look at different MOCs > around the community. But, I'm constantly plagued by "Part Number ... Not 46c44 >=20 > 50c48 >=20 > 52d49
lugnet.cad.mlcad:1560 13c13,14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=35441 26c27 --=20 -- 28d28
lugnet.cad.mlcad:1563 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 20 Lines: 18 23c24 I submitted without the "3D" immediately after the "=3D" sign. I submitted without the "3D" immediately after the "=" sign. 25,26c26,27 Please open the mindstorm folder, remove the "3D" from the address in = your address bar, make it go, and tell me what you think. Please open the mindstorm folder, remove the "3D" from the address in your address bar, make it go, and tell me what you think. 29,30c30 "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message = news:HB0BFq.FtG@lugnet.com... "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:HB0BFq.FtG@lugnet.com... 32c32 > >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D3D35441 > >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 35c35 > >--=3D20 > >--=20 37,39c37,38 >=20 > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. Can't = wait to > > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. Can't wait to 41c40 >=20 > 43d41
lugnet.cad.mlcad:1566 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 38 Lines: 33 23,26c24,26 It is probably common for an "=3D" sign to be followed by the "3D" = symbols on the web interface when the post originates in Outlook Express = (just guessing). I think it also adds "=3D20" after "--" in such a post. It is probably common for an "=" sign to be followed by the "3D" symbols on the web interface when the post originates in Outlook Express (just guessing). I think it also adds "=20" after "--" in such a post. 33,34c33 "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message = news:HB0C6p.IC9@lugnet.com... "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:HB0C6p.IC9@lugnet.com... 39,40c38 > >> > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. = Can't > >> > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. Can't 45,46c43 > >> That's wierd His link worked for me. But the link you quoted = didn't. > >> That's wierd His link worked for me. But the link you quoted didn't. 48,49c45 > >> Where did you get the '3D' from?? His original message didn't have = it. > >> Where did you get the '3D' from?? His original message didn't have it. 51c47 > >> try: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 > >> try: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=35441 55c51 >=20 > 57c53 >=20 > 59c55 >=20 > 61d56
lugnet.cad.mlcad:1568 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 26 Lines: 25 23c24 Nothing on the scale of your Arcane Family Home, and I have such a small = Nothing on the scale of your Arcane Family Home, and I have such a small 28c29 "Nicole Drumm" <kdrumm1@stny.rr.com> wrote in message = "Nicole Drumm" <kdrumm1@stny.rr.com> wrote in message 32c33 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=35441 37,39c38,39 >=20 > Wow. This is something! With the exception of the telephone like = handle part > > Wow. This is something! With the exception of the telephone like handle part 41c41 >=20 > 47,49c47,48 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.cad.mlcad:1576 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 30 Lines: 24 28c29 "Travis Cobbs" <tcobbs@REMOVE.halibut.com> wrote in message = "Travis Cobbs" <tcobbs@REMOVE.halibut.com> wrote in message 32,35c33,34 =3D > >may appear with various symbols added. These can cause confusion of = the =3D > >message by both human viewers and by alternate digital/mechanical =3D > >may appear with various symbols added. These can cause confusion of the = > >message by both human viewers and by alternate digital/mechanical = 37c36 > >--=3D20 > >--=20 40c39 >=20 > 42,49c41,44 > interface. I believe (but could be wrong) that the problem is that = you > don't have Outlook Express set to use plain text for all news posts. = My > understanding is that Usenet news posts should always be in plain = text, and > Microsoft screwed things up yet again by allowing you to post in an = encoded > interface. I believe (but could be wrong) that the problem is that you > don't have Outlook Express set to use plain text for all news posts. My > understanding is that Usenet news posts should always be in plain text, and > Microsoft screwed things up yet again by allowing you to post in an encoded 51c46 >=20 > 53d47
lugnet.cad.mlcad:1579 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 54 Lines: 48 31c32 "John Henry Kruer" <jhkruer@yahoo.com> wrote in message = "John Henry Kruer" <jhkruer@yahoo.com> wrote in message 33,38c34,36 > But is this actually an airlock, or a docking port? I've noticed that = alot > of the 'airlocks' made here aften feature only one door. They look = more > like a docking ring to me- anybody opening the door in outer space to = go > But is this actually an airlock, or a docking port? I've noticed that alot > of the 'airlocks' made here aften feature only one door. They look more > like a docking ring to me- anybody opening the door in outer space to go 40c38 >=20 > 42,48c40,43 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3D240706 > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/tboy/Space/jakesjunkship/dsc01658-1.jpg= >=20 > But the actually design of this is pretty cool IMHO. Is this part of = your > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=240706 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/tboy/Space/jakesjunkship/dsc01658-1.jpg > > But the actually design of this is pretty cool IMHO. Is this part of your 50c45 >=20 > 52c47 >=20 > 70c65 > >http://news.lugnet.com/space/?n=3D19348 > >http://news.lugnet.com/space/?n=19348 77d71
lugnet.castle:279 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 12 Lines: 10 22,25c23,24 > I looked through my pieces for a red 1x1 brick with studs on all 4 = sides, >but didn't find one. Were such pieces ever produced? I thought they = were. > I looked through my pieces for a red 1x1 brick with studs on all 4 sides, >but didn't find one. Were such pieces ever produced? I thought they were. 32d30
lugnet.castle:9858 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 21 Lines: 18 20,21c21 > I still question the availabil= ity! > I still question the availability! 23,24c23 > I really believe that demand could have possibly outstretched the supply= =85 > I really believe that demand could have possibly outstretched the supply… 26,27c25 > Would TLG really go into the production of a new group of Guarded Inns on= ce > Would TLG really go into the production of a new group of Guarded Inns once 36c34 =2Ejust that it would take a while. .just that it would take a while. 39d36
lugnet.castle:11647 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 36 Lines: 33 18c19 On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Elin =D6vern=E4s wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Elin Övernäs wrote: 22,25c23,24 > The model is almost finished, Im short on 28 darkgrey 2x2 slopes , and th= ere > are going to be more minifigs in the courtyard, but Im waiting on a shipm= ent > The model is almost finished, Im short on 28 darkgrey 2x2 slopes , and there > are going to be more minifigs in the courtyard, but Im waiting on a shipment 27,28c26 > I have uploaded some external pictures on brickshelf. When I have taken a= ll > I have uploaded some external pictures on brickshelf. When I have taken all 32c30 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D10136 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=10136 51,54c49,51 =09=09=09=09TWS Garrison =09=09=09=09tgarriso@math.purdue.edu =09=09 =09=09http://www.math.purdue.edu/~tgarriso/ TWS Garrison tgarriso@math.purdue.edu http://www.math.purdue.edu/~tgarriso/
lugnet.castle:14128 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 35 Lines: 31 22,29c23,26 >Why don't you think the Romans had war chariots? Or do you mean they = just >didn't call them "war chariots" but something else. I'm pretty sure the= Romans >had a military chariot. As for the ruts in paved road, it can happen. = I've >seen ruts several inches deep in solid rock caused by the repetitive = erosion >Why don't you think the Romans had war chariots? Or do you mean they just >didn't call them "war chariots" but something else. I'm pretty sure the Romans >had a military chariot. As for the ruts in paved road, it can happen. I've >seen ruts several inches deep in solid rock caused by the repetitive erosion 47c44 =20 55d51
lugnet.castle:14961 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 93 Lines: 90 23,25c24,25 > Design and quality =96 All models shall be of high quality and thought ou= t > design. Try to be historically accurate if possible (13th =96 16th > Design and quality – All models shall be of high quality and thought out > design. Try to be historically accurate if possible (13th – 16th 28c28 > by LEGO. Several factors are involved. Playability =96 the set should > by LEGO. Several factors are involved. Playability – the set should 31c31 > are a plus. Buildings should be appropriately furnished =96 what is > are a plus. Buildings should be appropriately furnished – what is 51,52c51 > Direction of Streets - Streets shall be laid out in a north/south/east/we= st > Direction of Streets - Streets shall be laid out in a north/south/east/west 74,75c73 > Lot Sizes =96 maximum building sizes =96 8 x 16, 16 x 16, 16 x 24, 16 x 3= 2 =96 > Lot Sizes – maximum building sizes – 8 x 16, 16 x 16, 16 x 24, 16 x 32 – 89c87 > Paving =96 All main roads and squares shall be paved. Light grey plates > Paving – All main roads and squares shall be paved. Light grey plates 91c89 > (depending on the weather). Green grass is not allowed =96 weeds and > (depending on the weather). Green grass is not allowed – weeds and 105c103 =09http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/Lego/castle-structures.html#WALLS http://www.mindspring.com/~ffilz/Lego/castle-structures.html#WALLS 112,113d109
lugnet.castle:15632 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 30 21,24c22,23 > This is an Idea I=92m certain we=92ve all thought of, but I figured that = I would > try to put my ideas into words and pictures. It=92s a Castle theme that = I=92ve > This is an Idea I’m certain we’ve all thought of, but I figured that I would > try to put my ideas into words and pictures. It’s a Castle theme that I’ve 27c26 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D31954 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31954 43c42 =09http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/30526 http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/30526 51,52d49
lugnet.dacta:164 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 29 20,23c21,22 > = > Does anyone know the physical differences between the ROBOLAB Team Chal= lenge > > Does anyone know the physical differences between the ROBOLAB Team Challenge 25,26c24 > = > 32,33c30 > = > 35,37c32,33 > = > I=92m not interested in the differences in the software or building > > I’m not interested in the differences in the software or building 39,40c35 > = > 46,48c41 http://news.lugnet.com/dacta/?n=3D114 -- = http://news.lugnet.com/dacta/?n=114 49a43 -- 54c48 =2E.. where air is power! ... where air is power!
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lugnet.db.inv:1243 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 53 Lines: 46 20,22c21,22 i'm glad to see that people are starting to take notice of my program. i=20 will be looking at all of your suggestions and trying to implement them in= =20 i'm glad to see that people are starting to take notice of my program. i will be looking at all of your suggestions and trying to implement them in 25,34c25,30 the reason why bronze, chrome, gold and silver are not in the color chooser= =20 is because i don't have hex values for those colors. i pulled my color=20 list from brickbay and some of the colors did not have hex values. does=20 anyone have a list of the official lego colors and hex values? when i was= =20 at Legoland this weekend i saw a sign that said there are 41 official lego= =20 colors. is this correct? currently parts catalog has 54 colors to choose= =20 the reason why bronze, chrome, gold and silver are not in the color chooser is because i don't have hex values for those colors. i pulled my color list from brickbay and some of the colors did not have hex values. does anyone have a list of the official lego colors and hex values? when i was at Legoland this weekend i saw a sign that said there are 41 official lego colors. is this correct? currently parts catalog has 54 colors to choose 40c36 can you send me examples of other formats. i can add them i just need to=20 can you send me examples of other formats. i can add them i just need to 43,45c39,40 side note: if you are looking for 2977c01 electronic rotation sensor=20 Legoland California had them for $6.99 they are normally $17.99. i got 3= =20 side note: if you are looking for 2977c01 electronic rotation sensor Legoland California had them for $6.99 they are normally $17.99. i got 3 48c43 pics of my trip are up at www.bong69.com just follow the 'Photos' link on=20 pics of my trip are up at www.bong69.com just follow the 'Photos' link on 59,60c54 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 73d66
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lugnet.db.inv:1294 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 54 Lines: 49 21c22 When saving htm files from the web you need to use 'Save As... (Web Page,=20 When saving htm files from the web you need to use 'Save As... (Web Page, 30c31 >>another new version. The wish list is getting bigger so here are the=20 >>another new version. The wish list is getting bigger so here are the 37,44c38,42 > I'm having problems with the "Open a .htm inventory file saved=20 > from the peeron site." feature. As far as I can see, the *first* line of= =20 > the inventory gets read in correctly, but the very next line simply shows= =20 > garbage (I'm seeing HTML tags as the part number and so on). I have saved= =20 > the inventory with the "Show Images" turned on, so the HTML table might=20 > I'm having problems with the "Open a .htm inventory file saved > from the peeron site." feature. As far as I can see, the *first* line of > the inventory gets read in correctly, but the very next line simply shows > garbage (I'm seeing HTML tags as the part number and so on). I have saved > the inventory with the "Show Images" turned on, so the HTML table might 47,48c45 > The other thing with that feature is that you might want to allow= =20 > The other thing with that feature is that you might want to allow 61,62c58 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 75d70
lugnet.db.inv:1295 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 33 Lines: 31 23,24c24 - If any fields on the main form are active, pressing delete will not= =20 - If any fields on the main form are active, pressing delete will not 26c26 - When ever you add an element the count box is active and=20 - When ever you add an element the count box is active and 28c28 - 2 new import types .blk and .xml These are for up coming features=20 - 2 new import types .blk and .xml These are for up coming features 30c30 - Fixed the won't add same part in different bag problem again. how=20 - Fixed the won't add same part in different bag problem again. how 39,40c39 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 53d51
lugnet.db.inv:1298 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 40 Lines: 36 20,25c21,24 by request i have started working on a Bricklink version of Parts=20 Catalog. This version uses the Bricklink inventory list. it will let you= =20 make an XML file that can be uploaded to Bricklink. it will also import=20 .prn, .inv, .dat, and .htm files so you can easily convect them to use the= =20 by request i have started working on a Bricklink version of Parts Catalog. This version uses the Bricklink inventory list. it will let you make an XML file that can be uploaded to Bricklink. it will also import .prn, .inv, .dat, and .htm files so you can easily convect them to use the 32,33c31 i'm interested to hear how it works for you and what other features need to= =20 i'm interested to hear how it works for you and what other features need to 46,47c44 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 60d56
lugnet.db.inv:1332 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 35 Lines: 32 23,26c24,26 > You also wrote in your readme's that the source code would be=20 > available for asking. I'd like to try compiling it on Linux, mostly for=20 > adding the command line usage as described above and integrating it in my= =20 > You also wrote in your readme's that the source code would be > available for asking. I'd like to try compiling it on Linux, mostly for > adding the command line usage as described above and integrating it in my 30,32c30,31 sorry i have not got back to you sooner. i'm working on some changes=20 today. after that i will zip up the source and send it to you. i hope you= =20 sorry i have not got back to you sooner. i'm working on some changes today. after that i will zip up the source and send it to you. i hope you 42,43c41 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 56d53
lugnet.db.inv:1333 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 46 Lines: 43 20,21c21,22 another new release. note that the licensing has changed. Parts Catalog=20 is now released under the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE. The source is=20 another new release. note that the licensing has changed. Parts Catalog is now released under the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE. The source is 27c28 - I think i whipped the exception error when deleting elements that=20 - I think i whipped the exception error when deleting elements that 29c30 - Will now remember the last file opened and use that as the default=20 - Will now remember the last file opened and use that as the default 32c33 - When an undefined element is clicked on the image box will now=20 - When an undefined element is clicked on the image box will now 34c35 - When updating master.txt the old copy is saved as=20 - When updating master.txt the old copy is saved as 36,37c37 update you can revert to last saved master.txt. You must rename it= =20 update you can revert to last saved master.txt. You must rename it 39,40c39 - Added a flashing label that tells the progress of the update= master.txt. - Added a flashing label that tells the progress of the update master.txt. 42c41 - Fixed the compare. Should now compare when same parts are in=20 - Fixed the compare. Should now compare when same parts are in 52,53c51 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 66d63
lugnet.db.inv:1340 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 34 Lines: 32 22c23 > What would be very nice, would be one chart with all the colors=20 > What would be very nice, would be one chart with all the colors 24,25c25 >one side, then columns for: LDraw color name, peeron color name, BrickLink= =20 >one side, then columns for: LDraw color name, peeron color name, BrickLink 32c32 but it should also include the LDraw color value and the Bricklink color=20 but it should also include the LDraw color value and the Bricklink color 41,42c41 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 55d53
lugnet.db.inv:1351 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 35 Lines: 32 20c21 I have not seen much traffic on the list lately. is everyone still=20 I have not seen much traffic on the list lately. is everyone still 23,24c24 well i have released new versions of both Parts Catalog and Parts Catalog= BLK. well i have released new versions of both Parts Catalog and Parts Catalog BLK. 26,27c26 the only change to both is that they now try to use the proper color names= =20 the only change to both is that they now try to use the proper color names 40,41c39 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 55d52
lugnet.db.inv:1414 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 31 Lines: 29 25,26c26 i will take a look at it and make the needed changes to parse the new html= =20 i will take a look at it and make the needed changes to parse the new html 37,38c37 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 52d50
lugnet.db.inv:1416 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 37 Lines: 34 25,30c26,29 I just finished making changes to both Parts Catalog and Parts Catalog=20 BLK. they will now handle the changes made to the peeron htm files. htm=20 files with or with out the bag information will be parsed properly. so you= =20 don't need to download new htm files if you have some of the old ones that= =20 I just finished making changes to both Parts Catalog and Parts Catalog BLK. they will now handle the changes made to the peeron htm files. htm files with or with out the bag information will be parsed properly. so you don't need to download new htm files if you have some of the old ones that 33c32 if anyone has any other problems with either of my parts catalog programs=20 if anyone has any other problems with either of my parts catalog programs 43,44c42 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 58d55
lugnet.db.inv:1440 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 82 Lines: 72 23c24 special thanks goes to William Howard for this round of suggestions and=20 special thanks goes to William Howard for this round of suggestions and 32,33c33 - When you cancel a compare you do not get a message that you have all= =20 - When you cancel a compare you do not get a message that you have all 35c35 - When adding an element that already exist the added element is=20 - When adding an element that already exist the added element is 37c37 - Now it might remember the last directory you opened/saved across=20 - Now it might remember the last directory you opened/saved across 39,40c39 - The compare was rewritten so that it is more robust. The compare is= =20 - The compare was rewritten so that it is more robust. The compare is 43c42 - The compare now gives you 2 option 'parts you have' or 'parts you=20 - The compare now gives you 2 option 'parts you have' or 'parts you 45c44 Suppose you load a list of parts you want. Then you compare by=20 Suppose you load a list of parts you want. Then you compare by 47,48c46 plan on buying. You will get a list of the parts you want that are= =20 plan on buying. You will get a list of the parts you want that are 50,51c48 - Can now save in an xls format. The order of the color column is the= =20 - Can now save in an xls format. The order of the color column is the 53c50 Change the order in the colors.txt file if you want to change the=20 Change the order in the colors.txt file if you want to change the 56,57c53 - Load xls is now done. this takes a few seconds. there are a lot of= =20 - Load xls is now done. this takes a few seconds. there are a lot of 59c55 color order does not matter. Parts Catalog is smart enough to=20 color order does not matter. Parts Catalog is smart enough to 61c57 - csv save/load is now coma quoted (every field must be quoted not=20 - csv save/load is now coma quoted (every field must be quoted not 63c59 - Cut the load xls time in half. it now only checks the number of=20 - Cut the load xls time in half. it now only checks the number of 65c61 (NOTE: the unknown column is not loaded. don't know what color to=20 (NOTE: the unknown column is not loaded. don't know what color to 67,68c63 - 'parts you need' should now tell you the correct number of parts you= =20 - 'parts you need' should now tell you the correct number of parts you 70,71c65 - Save xls now ignores comments and bags. all elements are grouped by= =20 - Save xls now ignores comments and bags. all elements are grouped by 73,74c67 - Now you can see the list as it is being loaded. this way you won't= =20 - Now you can see the list as it is being loaded. this way you won't 77,78c70 - I removed the BETA warning. This software has over 8 months of= testing. - I removed the BETA warning. This software has over 8 months of testing. 87,88c79 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 102d92
lugnet.db.inv:1450 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 34 Lines: 33 24,25c25,26 - Update master.txt never really updated the master list. It is now=20 fixed and working correctly. Thank goes to TWS Garrison <tws@peeron.com>=20 - Update master.txt never really updated the master list. It is now fixed and working correctly. Thank goes to TWS Garrison <tws@peeron.com> 37,38c38 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 54,55c54 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
lugnet.db.inv:1459 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 42 Lines: 40 23c24 - Fixed the xml loading. i was being a little to strict on the xml=20 - Fixed the xml loading. i was being a little to strict on the xml 25c26 generated by Briktrak. Thanks goes to Michael Shiels=20 generated by Briktrak. Thanks goes to Michael Shiels 27c28 - Added the Tree view. well it's not really a tree view but it is=20 - Added the Tree view. well it's not really a tree view but it is 29c30 in the list of elements. when the list is being loaded, if there=20 in the list of elements. when the list is being loaded, if there 31,32c32 first word in their description then the word is added to the tree= view. first word in their description then the word is added to the tree view. 44,45c44 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 61,62c60 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
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lugnet.db.inv:1468 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 60 Lines: 57 21,23c22,23 there was something wrong with the build that i posted last night. i think= =20 that i have now fixed it. i re-posted version 0.0.20. i hope i did not=20 there was something wrong with the build that i posted last night. i think that i have now fixed it. i re-posted version 0.0.20. i hope i did not 30c30 >more improvements to the treeview. now added sub groups to the main=20 >more improvements to the treeview. now added sub groups to the main 41,42c41 >=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 >¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 63,64c62 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 80,81c78 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
lugnet.db.inv:2384 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 56 Lines: 53 20c21 i have been making some changes to parts catalog this week. and i need=20 i have been making some changes to parts catalog this week. and i need 23,28c24,28 the major change is that parts catalog can now render images using LDraw=20 dat files. this means no more hunting and downloading pictures, just keep= =20 your dat files up to date. this also means that the parts can now be in=20 the correct color. before you can use dat files you must set the=20 LDRAW.exe directory. this can be done in the more screen. (press the=20 the major change is that parts catalog can now render images using LDraw dat files. this means no more hunting and downloading pictures, just keep your dat files up to date. this also means that the parts can now be in the correct color. before you can use dat files you must set the LDRAW.exe directory. this can be done in the more screen. (press the 31,32c31,32 i need help with the LDraw colors. i have matched up some of the peeron=20 color names with LDraw color codes. but there are many that still need=20 i need help with the LDraw colors. i have matched up some of the peeron color names with LDraw color codes. but there are many that still need 35,38c35,37 in the beta zip file i have included a file named 'LDraw Color Map.mpd' if= =20 you open this file in MLCad you will see all the available LDraw=20 colors. could someone please help me match up these color codes with the=20 in the beta zip file i have included a file named 'LDraw Color Map.mpd' if you open this file in MLCad you will see all the available LDraw colors. could someone please help me match up these color codes with the 41c40 there is also a test inventory named 'colors.PRN' that demonstrates the=20 there is also a test inventory named 'colors.PRN' that demonstrates the 58,59c57 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 75,76c73 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
lugnet.dear-lego:609 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 45c46 My best hopes and wishes for this new LEGO Direct service. =20 My best hopes and wishes for this new LEGO Direct service. 48d48
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lugnet.events:104 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 22c23 "Tony Kilaras" <kilaras@speedus.com> wrote in message = "Tony Kilaras" <kilaras@speedus.com> wrote in message 24,25c25 > In this pic: bricksmiths2_ship.jpg you have a ship I've never seen = before. Are > In this pic: bricksmiths2_ship.jpg you have a ship I've never seen before. Are 28,31c28,31 The ship belongs to Thomas Michon, no I don't have any other pictures. = He's 13, and an international Lego building champion. That ship is = EXTREMELY detailed and AWESOME. And no, its not a part of the Guild (I = had that question once already...) The ship belongs to Thomas Michon, no I don't have any other pictures. He's 13, and an international Lego building champion. That ship is EXTREMELY detailed and AWESOME. And no, its not a part of the Guild (I had that question once already...) 35c35 --=20 -- 44d43
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lugnet.events.brickfest:1321 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 48 Lines: 44 22c23 >BrickFest=99 Registration form is now available via the website. >BrickFest™ Registration form is now available via the website. 26,31c27,30 The problems that surfaced this morning with the registration site seem to= =20 have been fixed. The problems were isolated to IE6 and seemed to involve IE= =20 not wanting to clear cookies that weren't set (it got confused and just=20 hung...), and was mostly confined to IE6 on Win2K (which we didn't=20 The problems that surfaced this morning with the registration site seem to have been fixed. The problems were isolated to IE6 and seemed to involve IE not wanting to clear cookies that weren't set (it got confused and just hung...), and was mostly confined to IE6 on Win2K (which we didn't 34c33 In tests, it is happy and working like it should so anyone who was having=20 In tests, it is happy and working like it should so anyone who was having 43,44c42 >Registration will be a bit different this year. Everyone that registers= will >Registration will be a bit different this year. Everyone that registers will 49c47 >as well as give you access to check the status of your registration. It=20 >as well as give you access to check the status of your registration. It 53,55c51,52 >proposal(coming soon), request display space (coming soon), enter= information >directly into the MOC card temple (coming soon), and other information=20 >proposal(coming soon), request display space (coming soon), enter information >directly into the MOC card temple (coming soon), and other information 68,69d64
lugnet.events.brickfest:1322 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 49 Lines: 45 23c24 >BrickFest=99 Registration form is now available via the website. >BrickFest™ Registration form is now available via the website. 30,33c31,32 Seems a bug worked past our testing and some of you may experience problems= =20 logging in and staying logged in. THe problem seems related to cookies and= =20 Seems a bug worked past our testing and some of you may experience problems logging in and staying logged in. THe problem seems related to cookies and 36,37c35,36 So if you cant get the system to work, don't worry... it'll be fixed=20 shortly. And if it does work for you, then welcome to the new BrickFest=20 So if you cant get the system to work, don't worry... it'll be fixed shortly. And if it does work for you, then welcome to the new BrickFest 47,48c46 >Registration will be a bit different this year. Everyone that registers= will >Registration will be a bit different this year. Everyone that registers will 53c51 >as well as give you access to check the status of your registration. It=20 >as well as give you access to check the status of your registration. It 57,59c55,56 >proposal(coming soon), request display space (coming soon), enter= information >directly into the MOC card temple (coming soon), and other information=20 >proposal(coming soon), request display space (coming soon), enter information >directly into the MOC card temple (coming soon), and other information 70,71d66
lugnet.events.brickswest:597 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 By chance is anyone traveling from or through the Redondo Beach area on=20 By chance is anyone traveling from or through the Redondo Beach area on 22c23 I'm at Henry Lim's place in Redondo Beach. I figure I have three=20 I'm at Henry Lim's place in Redondo Beach. I figure I have three 34d34
lugnet.events.brickswest:636 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 I'm having a total blast here at BricksWest meeting people and=20 I'm having a total blast here at BricksWest meeting people and 25c26 After BricksWest I'm actually going to be hanging around in SoCal for a=20 After BricksWest I'm actually going to be hanging around in SoCal for a 28c29 While I'm here, I'd like to meet with as many people as I can, in=20 While I'm here, I'd like to meet with as many people as I can, in 31c32 http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=3D1961 (announcement) http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=1961 (announcement) 34c35 If you do a lot of building, and this sounds interesting to you, let's=20 If you do a lot of building, and this sounds interesting to you, let's 37,42c38,43 Henry Lim has graciously offered to put me up at his place in the event=20 that if I don't find other places to stay, and/or shuttle me around if=20 needed (wow!), but I'd hate for him to have to put up with me for=20 several more days. :-) (I took 700 photos last week Thursday and=20 Friday of his gigantic stagasaurus and his incredible harpsichord,=20 including about 50 inside the belly (which is how I got this cool gnash=20 Henry Lim has graciously offered to put me up at his place in the event that if I don't find other places to stay, and/or shuttle me around if needed (wow!), but I'd hate for him to have to put up with me for several more days. :-) (I took 700 photos last week Thursday and Friday of his gigantic stagasaurus and his incredible harpsichord, including about 50 inside the belly (which is how I got this cool gnash 45,47c46,48 Anyway, holy cow, there are so many great creations here in SoCal! From=20 Daniel Jassim's space ships, to Bryce McGlone's and Dave Johann's mecha,=20 to Brad Hamilton's underwater cities, all of the SCLTC stuff, and so=20 Anyway, holy cow, there are so many great creations here in SoCal! From Daniel Jassim's space ships, to Bryce McGlone's and Dave Johann's mecha, to Brad Hamilton's underwater cities, all of the SCLTC stuff, and so 50c51 I think I'm catching a ride back up to the LA area tomorrow with Scott=20 I think I'm catching a ride back up to the LA area tomorrow with Scott 53c54 So hey! Drop me a line a this e-mail address <tsl@tsl.bu.edu> if you're=20 So hey! Drop me a line a this e-mail address <tsl@tsl.bu.edu> if you're 58,59c59,60 p.s. I had the opportunity to chat briefly with Brad Justus at=20 BricksWest this morning. He likes the idea of the book and offered=20 p.s. I had the opportunity to chat briefly with Brad Justus at BricksWest this morning. He likes the idea of the book and offered 61d61
lugnet.events.brickswest:728 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 > headquarters in Enfield, Connecticut in mid-January, the primary=20 > headquarters in Enfield, Connecticut in mid-January, the primary 24c25 > taken away from this session was that as an enthusiast community,=20 > taken away from this session was that as an enthusiast community, 30,33c31,34 I'd like to hear more about this, now that you mention it. Someone at=20 BricksWest asked me why I didn't attend it and was shocked when I told=20 them that I had no idea there had even been such a meeting. Which of=20 course made me wonder what was discussed, who called the meeting, who=20 I'd like to hear more about this, now that you mention it. Someone at BricksWest asked me why I didn't attend it and was shocked when I told them that I had no idea there had even been such a meeting. Which of course made me wonder what was discussed, who called the meeting, who 38d38
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lugnet.general:8138 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 87 Lines: 85 19,22c20,21 >I have been heavily into the Technic stuff, but there isn't much coming = out >in that venue lately so I'm looking at two of my other old time = favorites, >I have been heavily into the Technic stuff, but there isn't much coming out >in that venue lately so I'm looking at two of my other old time favorites, 29c28 =46orgive the following if you already own one... Personally, I'll be Forgive the following if you already own one... Personally, I'll be 83c82 =20 106d104
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lugnet.general:8196 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 =46irst things first... First things first... 40c41 and follow `The Plan'.=20 and follow `The Plan'. 170c171 =20 182c183 =20 243,246d243
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lugnet.general:8408 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 37 Lines: 34 26,29c27,28 >Is this a one-time thing, or a recuring (annual, monthly, whatever) = show? >Is there a table fee? Is it a "This is my hobby, isn't it neat" show, = or a >Is this a one-time thing, or a recuring (annual, monthly, whatever) show? >Is there a table fee? Is it a "This is my hobby, isn't it neat" show, or a 32,33c31 >(and yes, I'll e-mail pkiddell with all these sorts of annoying = questions, >(and yes, I'll e-mail pkiddell with all these sorts of annoying questions, 57d54
lugnet.general:8571 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 27c28 On 10/14/1999, at 10:03 AM, Ralph D=F6ring wrote: On 10/14/1999, at 10:03 AM, Ralph Döring wrote: 29c30 >Was I blind ? Boba Fett ! I hope you=B4re right. Now I can=B4t sleep ... >Was I blind ? Boba Fett ! I hope you´re right. Now I can´t sleep ... 33c34 >d=F6 >dö 40c41 >>"Ralph D=F6ring" wrote: >>"Ralph Döring" wrote: 42c43 >>> Does anyone know what=B4ll happen in less than 20 hours at >>> Does anyone know what´ll happen in less than 20 hours at 46c47 >>> d=F6 >>> dö 61,62c62 >>=93The more people I meet, the more I like my Lego collection.=94 >>“The more people I meet, the more I like my Lego collection.”
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lugnet.general:17934 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Just to let you all know that another outlet close to me in the E.London = area is selling 6097 castles for =A319.99 in case anyone needs one.=20 Just to let you all know that another outlet close to me in the E.London area is selling 6097 castles for £19.99 in case anyone needs one.
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lugnet.general:19611 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 193 Lines: 173 23,36c24,30 >Ian, I think you started off on the right premise--we're all guessing. = But then >you go on to assert that your scheme would be cost-effective. What makes= you so >sure? You've set forth a tidy scheme, but the numbers are still an = unknown. >Can be it left unattended? It's a linear assembly line, what about = other >topographies? Airports do more complicated routing of baggage. Have you = tackled >the permutations of parts and colors and customers? Brad has always = indicated >that selection will be limited and seasonal. Maybe you should run some = computer >Ian, I think you started off on the right premise--we're all guessing. But then >you go on to assert that your scheme would be cost-effective. What makes you so >sure? You've set forth a tidy scheme, but the numbers are still an unknown. >Can be it left unattended? It's a linear assembly line, what about other >topographies? Airports do more complicated routing of baggage. Have you tackled >the permutations of parts and colors and customers? Brad has always indicated >that selection will be limited and seasonal. Maybe you should run some computer 134,137c128,129 >In "The Ultimate Lego Book", there is some description of Lego's parts = halls >(and the need for only occasional workers on duty.) Have you read this = book? >In "The Ultimate Lego Book", there is some description of Lego's parts halls >(and the need for only occasional workers on duty.) Have you read this book? 144,145c136 >I tried Dissertation Express at www.umi.com and although 5 dissertations= used >I tried Dissertation Express at www.umi.com and although 5 dissertations used 150,157c141,144 >Keep in mind that Lego is not that big a company. It sells less than 10 = billion >krona! (more than $1B USD.) It's dwarfed by Hasbro! (US$4B) Why Lego = doesn't >(does it?) own the injection molding company? It would be a big risk = tangential >to their core business. They can't consume but a tiny fraction of the = world's >Keep in mind that Lego is not that big a company. It sells less than 10 billion >krona! (more than $1B USD.) It's dwarfed by Hasbro! (US$4B) Why Lego doesn't >(does it?) own the injection molding company? It would be a big risk tangential >to their core business. They can't consume but a tiny fraction of the world's 159,160c146 >manufacture ***). Lego has already problems forecasting demand for its = core >manufacture ***). Lego has already problems forecasting demand for its core 163,164c149,150 >*** Source: _The Chemical Book_. Bear Stearns & Company. 2000. There is = a lot of >*** Source: _The Chemical Book_. Bear Stearns & Company. 2000. There is a lot >of 167c153 =46air enough. I don't know how many manufacturers are building Fair enough. I don't know how many manufacturers are building 172,175c158,159 >Here and now, Lego AS is making a small trial of bulk ordering. We don't= know >how much they must sell to prove the concept or break even. I suggest we= order >Here and now, Lego AS is making a small trial of bulk ordering. We don't know >how much they must sell to prove the concept or break even. I suggest we order 184,189c168,170 >Finally, being a businessperson, and manager, you must have a better = approach >than demanding "lengthy responses" from strangers. We LUGNETters have = time for >all this uninformed debate, but just try to get 5 minutes of Mr. Justus'= time >Finally, being a businessperson, and manager, you must have a better approach >than demanding "lengthy responses" from strangers. We LUGNETters have time for >all this uninformed debate, but just try to get 5 minutes of Mr. Justus' time 213d193
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I believe that you can still do this in most countries, = as the >> lego distributer [at least in Aus] keeps several [unknown quantity] = copies >> of each set purely for the parts for people who's sets have come = without >> various parts [it does happen]. What I was referring to was that you = have >> And Australia, and probably other countries too, where we could order parts, >> and they'd do their best to get them for us [I only found out just before it >> ended here]. I believe that you can still do this in most countries, as the >> lego distributer [at least in Aus] keeps several [unknown quantity] copies >> of each set purely for the parts for people who's sets have come without >> various parts [it does happen]. What I was referring to was that you have 132,137c124,126 >I wouldn't even know who to call as a distributor, unless you mean = S@H/LD. And >if you do mean them, they really don't have THAT large a list of sets, = and if >you are looking for a particular one, you have to ask - they don't have = a S@H >I wouldn't even know who to call as a distributor, unless you mean S@H/LD. And >if you do mean them, they really don't have THAT large a list of sets, and if >you are looking for a particular one, you have to ask - they don't have a S@H 149,150c138 >> I'm not referring to this year in particular, I'm going back over the = past >> I'm not referring to this year in particular, I'm going back over the past 152,153c140 >> 'exclusive' set released in Australia may have been 6010 [petrol = pumps], but >> 'exclusive' set released in Australia may have been 6010 [petrol pumps], but 156,159c143,144 >Um SHELL sets - still not available in the US, except as a test = marketing in >SoCal (and they probably won't have a single set when I head down there = next >Um SHELL sets - still not available in the US, except as a test marketing in >SoCal (and they probably won't have a single set when I head down there next 164,165c149 >> I was refering to exclusives, NOT promotionals. [promos being sets = included >> I was refering to exclusives, NOT promotionals. [promos being sets included 169,170c153 >I wouldn't separate them that much, they are both highly limited = availability >I wouldn't separate them that much, they are both highly limited availability 173,178c156,158 >But with today's networking, the limited availability is somewhat moot. = I have >sent TONS of US-exclusive sets all over the world, and received tons of = non-US >exclusives too. It WOULD be nice if it were TLG distributing them to us,= rather >But with today's networking, the limited availability is somewhat moot. I have >sent TONS of US-exclusive sets all over the world, and received tons of non-US >exclusives too. It WOULD be nice if it were TLG distributing them to us, rather 187,190c167,168 >> Where do you think most of your LD parts are coming from? How do you = think >> the cost of Lego there became so cheap compared to the rest of the = world? >> Where do you think most of your LD parts are coming from? How do you think >> the cost of Lego there became so cheap compared to the rest of the world? 196,199c174,175 >> As to the park, I believe there's an officail lego store there where = you can >> purchase sets not available in other places [minifig packs, like in = the UK's >> As to the park, I believe there's an officail lego store there where you can >> purchase sets not available in other places [minifig packs, like in the UK's 202,203c178 >I've never seen anything exclusive except the keychains, most of which = you can >I've never seen anything exclusive except the keychains, most of which you can 214,215c189 >> apparently in Aus, too] Why do they need Beta testers, when they = already had >> apparently in Aus, too] Why do they need Beta testers, when they already had 218,219c192 >NZ/AU wasn't meant to BE a bulk ordering, from the details I've seen. = It was >NZ/AU wasn't meant to BE a bulk ordering, from the details I've seen. It was 238,239c211 >> > AUers sets/bulk packs, so it's not like you DON'T have access, you = do. >> > AUers sets/bulk packs, so it's not like you DON'T have access, you do. 242,245c214,215 >> available to the rest of the world, those who it doesn't serve are = stuck >> with having to pay twice for postage, as well as currency exchange = rates, >> available to the rest of the world, those who it doesn't serve are stuck >> with having to pay twice for postage, as well as currency exchange rates, 247,248c217 >> further delay of getting payment to the US, and then getting the = parcel to >> further delay of getting payment to the US, and then getting the parcel to 257,260c226,227 >> As opposed to your requesting TLG to start this service, which = resulted in >> the service available in other countries to be halted? [ie order a = part, and >> As opposed to your requesting TLG to start this service, which resulted in >> the service available in other countries to be halted? [ie order a part, and 263,264c230 >I don't follow - those aren't related. The shutdown of many supplies = were part >I don't follow - those aren't related. The shutdown of many supplies were part 279,284c245,247 >> It's not just LD's attitude, it's also LA...somehow our sets are = priced >> considerably higher than those in other countries. [we can often have = a set >> or several sets airmailed to us from the US at S@H prices, and even = with the >> It's not just LD's attitude, it's also LA...somehow our sets are priced >> considerably higher than those in other countries. [we can often have a set >> or several sets airmailed to us from the US at S@H prices, and even with the 287,290c250,251 >Some of that is the INSANE Customs crap you have to deal with - an = individual >can fib a bit on the value of stuff being sent to AU and probably get = away with >Some of that is the INSANE Customs crap you have to deal with - an individual >can fib a bit on the value of stuff being sent to AU and probably get away with 295,300c256,258 >> Anyway, I think had we still had our old parts service down here we = wouldn't >> be overly worried about LD. [and wasn't there a fair amount of = complaints >> when people in the US found about what used to be available in NZ and = wasn't >> Anyway, I think had we still had our old parts service down here we wouldn't >> be overly worried about LD. [and wasn't there a fair amount of complaints >> when people in the US found about what used to be available in NZ and wasn't 326,333c284,287 >> Well, this is the strange thing...LA was originally only going to get = in the >> soccer field from the football series and it was to be $119.95 [I saw = the >> price list from lego at more than 1 store]. Yet they were not only = able to >> get the entire range...they were also BELOW the cost of the sets in = the US: >> Well, this is the strange thing...LA was originally only going to get in the >> soccer field from the football series and it was to be $119.95 [I saw the >> price list from lego at more than 1 store]. Yet they were not only able to >> get the entire range...they were also BELOW the cost of the sets in the US: 339,342c293,294 >> Now, if LA can afford to sell the sets for this price, where do you = think >> the money from the higher prices was going...to the government in = taxes, etc >> Now, if LA can afford to sell the sets for this price, where do you think >> the money from the higher prices was going...to the government in taxes, etc 345,348c297,298 >> As to setting up the warehousing for LD, when we had the 'better than = LD' >> service, parts would arrive within a week. [if they had them] So = obviously >> As to setting up the warehousing for LD, when we had the 'better than LD' >> service, parts would arrive within a week. [if they had them] So obviously 366d315
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lugnet.general:19677 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 88 Lines: 75 20,21c21 >Maybe that is the case, but I've seen one report that the facilities = they >Maybe that is the case, but I've seen one report that the facilities they 29,30c29 >This suggests to me that perhaps their injection molding machines would = be >This suggests to me that perhaps their injection molding machines would be 40,41c39 >system. It might even be possible to have multiple colors at the = injection >system. It might even be possible to have multiple colors at the injection 47,48c45 >This would probably be the case, but maybe they could also just switch = the >This would probably be the case, but maybe they could also just switch the 60,61c57 >forth from one to the other - I'd still reckon they'd favour just = molding >forth from one to the other - I'd still reckon they'd favour just molding 69,72c65,66 >They look like a perfect candidate for extrusion molding at a first = look. >I'm also fairly certain that if nothing else, the axles they use are = almost >They look like a perfect candidate for extrusion molding at a first look. >I'm also fairly certain that if nothing else, the axles they use are almost 74,79c68,70 >cutoff bump at one end of the axle where it gets separated from the = sprue it >would be on, but I haven't seen any such bumps in more recent axles, = which >would seem to suggest that they're either using extrusion molding for = the >cutoff bump at one end of the axle where it gets separated from the sprue it >would be on, but I haven't seen any such bumps in more recent axles, which >would seem to suggest that they're either using extrusion molding for the 85,88c76,77 >Probably - I've read that they only mold one or two parts in any given = mold >at any given time, don't know if this works the same way for large = volume >Probably - I've read that they only mold one or two parts in any given mold >at any given time, don't know if this works the same way for large volume 97,98c86 >Just some ideas I've picked up from reading and browsing the internet = not >Just some ideas I've picked up from reading and browsing the internet not 108d95
lugnet.general:19872 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 81 Lines: 78 24,25c25,26 >=20 >=20 > > 28,29c29,30 > >> In lugnet.build, Fredrik Gl=F6ckner writes: > >> >Or have I seriously misconceived the size of the gun? =20 > >> In lugnet.build, Fredrik Glöckner writes: > >> >Or have I seriously misconceived the size of the gun? 31c32 > >> >aviation buff, but I was thinking that the gun was a six=20 > >> >aviation buff, but I was thinking that the gun was a six 34c35 > >> It's a 30mm with seven barrels. But I agree the technic=20 > >> It's a 30mm with seven barrels. But I agree the technic 36c37 > >> too large. sometimes I make gatling cannons with a 2x2=20 > >> too large. sometimes I make gatling cannons with a 2x2 38c39 > >> couple of 2x2 round plates with a handful of 1x1 cylinders=20 > >> couple of 2x2 round plates with a handful of 1x1 cylinders 40c41 > >> "barrels." you only end up with 4 barrels, but it looks=20 > >> "barrels." you only end up with 4 barrels, but it looks 44c45 > >Really? I recently (a few years ago) put my head up to the=20 > >Really? I recently (a few years ago) put my head up to the 46c47 > >it was parked and unloaded, eh? :-) and it was *totally*=20 > >it was parked and unloaded, eh? :-) and it was *totally* 48c49 > >barrel is probably close, but the cannon assembly is much=20 > >barrel is probably close, but the cannon assembly is much 50c51 > >would actually be a lot closer in scale. You could probably=20 > >would actually be a lot closer in scale. You could probably 52c53 > >technic axles to represent the barrels, or maybe even 7=20 > >technic axles to represent the barrels, or maybe even 7 56c57 > >_Smithsonian_ magazine had a fun article on the A-10 a year=20 > >_Smithsonian_ magazine had a fun article on the A-10 a year 58c59 > >some discussion on the Warthog's new lease on life due to=20 > >some discussion on the Warthog's new lease on life due to 60c61 > >during Desert Storm, and on the evolution of the Nighthog. =20 > >during Desert Storm, and on the evolution of the Nighthog. 62c63 > >probably got most of its material from, I dunno, _Stars &=20 > >probably got most of its material from, I dunno, _Stars & 64c65 > >Military Aviation and Arms Weekly_ or some such, but it was=20 > >Military Aviation and Arms Weekly_ or some such, but it was 69,70c70,71 >=20 > Ah yes --- I like the idea of using 7 technic axels with a=20 > > Ah yes --- I like the idea of using 7 technic axels with a 74,76c75,77 >=20 > it's a moral issue perhaps. =3D) >=20 > > it's a moral issue perhaps. =) > 78c79 >=20 > 80,85c81,83 An easy way around this...use one of the elastic bands from a lego = set...It must be lego, as it's part of the set and required for the model. [and = I doubt lego would include something that wasn't at least authorized by = the An easy way around this...use one of the elastic bands from a lego set...It must be lego, as it's part of the set and required for the model. [and I doubt lego would include something that wasn't at least authorized by the 92,96c90,94 Benjamin Whytcross=20 BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au=20 Ph: (03) 9856 5282=20 Directory Technology Pty Ltd=20 1/436 Elgar Road,=20 Benjamin Whytcross BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au Ph: (03) 9856 5282 Directory Technology Pty Ltd 1/436 Elgar Road, 100d97
lugnet.general:20679 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 21 20,23c21,22 edition of 'Collectors Gazette' and there were 2 articles: one = regarding [from what I saw] a persons lego collection [with a large building of = some edition of 'Collectors Gazette' and there were 2 articles: one regarding [from what I saw] a persons lego collection [with a large building of some 26,27c25 [includes STONE construction bricks, which I believe were similar to = lego, [includes STONE construction bricks, which I believe were similar to lego, 30,37c28,31 Unfortunately, as this publication costs $10 down here,[=A31.75 in the = UK which is under $5 Aus] I thought it was a little over-priced, but if = anyone has a copy, I'd be interested in seeing a scanned copy of the articles. = [Or if you don't want them, I'd be interested in the articles themselves :) = ] Unfortunately, as this publication costs $10 down here,[£1.75 in the UK which is under $5 Aus] I thought it was a little over-priced, but if anyone has a copy, I'd be interested in seeing a scanned copy of the articles. [Or if you don't want them, I'd be interested in the articles themselves :) ] 39,43c33,37 Benjamin Whytcross=20 BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au=20 Ph: (03) 9856 5282=20 Directory Technology Pty Ltd=20 1/436 Elgar Road,=20 Benjamin Whytcross BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au Ph: (03) 9856 5282 Directory Technology Pty Ltd 1/436 Elgar Road, 47d40
lugnet.general:20694 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 22,26c23,27 I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend = (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, = and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its = getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we = should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: 30,35c31,35 PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for = Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or = Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. = If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over = 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact = with a small handful. PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact with a small handful. 37c37 --=20 -- 46d45
lugnet.general:20700 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 168 Lines: 145 19,26c20,23 I'm looking for some information on a catalogue I acquired yesterday in = a bunch of mixed parts from the 50's (?) to possibly the 80's. [Includes = CA bricks, I think] The main information I'm after is what year the = catalogue was issued for, and what sets it was likely to have come with, or = whether it I'm looking for some information on a catalogue I acquired yesterday in a bunch of mixed parts from the 50's (?) to possibly the 80's. [Includes CA bricks, I think] The main information I'm after is what year the catalogue was issued for, and what sets it was likely to have come with, or whether it 29,34c26,28 The catalogue is English, and was "PRINTED IN GT. BRITAIN" and is 8 = pages. [I'm not describing all pictures or even mentioning most of them, as = this would be entirely too long if I did. I'll try and get scans up tonight, = or The catalogue is English, and was "PRINTED IN GT. BRITAIN" and is 8 pages. [I'm not describing all pictures or even mentioning most of them, as this would be entirely too long if I did. I'll try and get scans up tonight, or 38,45c32,35 Picture of a boy building a tower with bricks in red, white, blue, = yellow, black, and clear on a grey 700/e plate. There are classic windows and = doors, wheels, but no sloped bricks visible. Below this is a red rectangle = with 'LEGO (R)' in white with a black border, and 'The Building Toy' in = yellow Picture of a boy building a tower with bricks in red, white, blue, yellow, black, and clear on a grey 700/e plate. There are classic windows and doors, wheels, but no sloped bricks visible. Below this is a red rectangle with 'LEGO (R)' in white with a black border, and 'The Building Toy' in yellow 72c62 Lego bricks are so easy to build with, you don't need=20 Lego bricks are so easy to build with, you don't need 74,75c64 Below all this is a similar house and building explanation to that at = the Below all this is a similar house and building explanation to that at the 78,79c67 Page 3: [" ALL prices apply to U.K. only and are subject to = alteration"] Page 3: [" ALL prices apply to U.K. only and are subject to alteration"] 88,91c76,77 "Even the smallest 010 set will build animals, soldiers and ships as = well as houses. Of course, a bigger set builds more models, gives more fun. The = 050 "Even the smallest 010 set will build animals, soldiers and ships as well as houses. Of course, a bigger set builds more models, gives more fun. The 050 95,96c81 Picture of a completed town plan set [with 8 cars and 4 trucks], it's = closed Picture of a completed town plan set [with 8 cars and 4 trucks], it's closed 98,103c83,86 "Set 810 The Complete Town Plan Set =A37.19.6. The most wonderful present the Lego enthusiast can receive. The = Complete Town Plan Set contains all the bricks and parts you need as shown = above. Set 700K in strong wooden box. =A35.5.0" "Set 810 The Complete Town Plan Set £7.19.6. The most wonderful present the Lego enthusiast can receive. The Complete Town Plan Set contains all the bricks and parts you need as shown above. Set 700K in strong wooden box. £5.5.0" 148,149c131 The Pull Toy, of jumbo sized Lego bricks is specially designed for = Children The Pull Toy, of jumbo sized Lego bricks is specially designed for Children 163,164c145 I hope that this information is useful in working out where this = catalogue I hope that this information is useful in working out where this catalogue 168,169c149 [1] This seems as true now as whenever it was written [about parents = [Dad in [1] This seems as true now as whenever it was written [about parents [Dad in 171,172c151 [2] I had thought lego was against this sort of things [soldiers] but = this [2] I had thought lego was against this sort of things [soldiers] but this 174,175c153 [3] These are CERTAINLY not DUPLO...the studs appear to be the size of = a 4x4 [3] These are CERTAINLY not DUPLO...the studs appear to be the size of a 4x4 179,183c157,161 Benjamin Whytcross=20 BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au=20 Ph: (03) 9856 5282=20 Directory Technology Pty Ltd=20 1/436 Elgar Road,=20 Benjamin Whytcross BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au Ph: (03) 9856 5282 Directory Technology Pty Ltd 1/436 Elgar Road, 187d164
lugnet.general:20712 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 34 21,41c22,40 We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of = August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. = That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even = for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my = church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a = pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, = plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or = Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, = I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my = Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or = 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the = dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to = share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat = for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either = location). We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either location). 43,44c42,43 When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with = directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. 46c45 --=20 -- 55d53
lugnet.general:20745 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 103 Lines: 100 20,21c21 >I agree this is a disturbing trend...read .reviews about my impressions = of >I agree this is a disturbing trend...read .reviews about my impressions of 24,25c24 >Essentially I was mad when minifig packs in general dropped from 6 figs = to 5 >Essentially I was mad when minifig packs in general dropped from 6 figs to 5 28,29c27 >I love Lego too, but their cost cutting measures such as juniorization, = low >I love Lego too, but their cost cutting measures such as juniorization, low 42c40 parks, software, bedding, clothing, etc...=20 parks, software, bedding, clothing, etc... 123,126d120
lugnet.general:20746 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 41 Lines: 35 22,33c23,28 >I am interested in constructing the bicycle shown at the bottom of page = 71 in >"The Ultimate Lego Book". I contacted LEGO Consumer Services. They = stated >that the required pieces are not in kit form. The service = representative >stated that it looked like a combination of basic technic elements = (e.g., large >pulley wheels) - and - round bricks were used in the construction. Can = someone >advise as to who I could contact to purchase these individual pieces? = Thank >I am interested in constructing the bicycle shown at the bottom of page 71 in >"The Ultimate Lego Book". I contacted LEGO Consumer Services. They stated >that the required pieces are not in kit form. The service representative >stated that it looked like a combination of basic technic elements (e.g., large >pulley wheels) - and - round bricks were used in the construction. Can someone >advise as to who I could contact to purchase these individual pieces? Thank 61d55
lugnet.general:20747 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 39c40 through cheating? What is wrong with many young people today?=20 through cheating? What is wrong with many young people today? 51d51
lugnet.general:20769 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 21 Lines: 18 23,28c24,26 >misrepresented/"stolen" pictures are being posted by naughty little = children. >Guess what? If the person who posted them was willing to lie about = whether or >not the MOC was built by them, they might just be lying about their age,= too. >misrepresented/"stolen" pictures are being posted by naughty little children. >Guess what? If the person who posted them was willing to lie about whether or >not the MOC was built by them, they might just be lying about their age, too. 41,42d38
lugnet.general:21311 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 26 21,28c22,28 Well, I just got off my dour of duty in the ever hazardous and = adventure ridden Meijer parking lot, but I noticed a strange car. It = looked similar to the Nissan 280 SX, the one before the 300, but it was = bright etallic blue, it had gull top opening doors, and the car plate on = the back said bricklin. I thought it was amusing, since I think about = bricks while I work. Does anyone know this kind of car? Is it a kit car = perhaps? Any info is appreciated, and any directions to a better group = would be great also. Thanks! Well, I just got off my dour of duty in the ever hazardous and adventure ridden Meijer parking lot, but I noticed a strange car. It looked similar to the Nissan 280 SX, the one before the 300, but it was bright etallic blue, it had gull top opening doors, and the car plate on the back said bricklin. I thought it was amusing, since I think about bricks while I work. Does anyone know this kind of car? Is it a kit car perhaps? Any info is appreciated, and any directions to a better group would be great also. Thanks!
lugnet.general:25539 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 I saw this browsing Fox news this morning, it has the movie maker = set, and it is the first one mentioned. Pretty nifty! I saw this browsing Fox news this morning, it has the movie maker set, and it is the first one mentioned. Pretty nifty!
lugnet.general:26225 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 34 Lines: 33 21,27c22,27 As most of you know, most of us in the Michigan LEGO club are = attending GATS here in Novi, Michigan on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday = this weekend. We were discussing having a flyer of some of the train = related items, such as the train clubs, etc. Larry P. & I were doing a = little talking, and there has been mentioned there have been a few done = already, and it would save everyone a lot of time if we could get a few = ideas from those.=20 As most of you know, most of us in the Michigan LEGO club are attending GATS here in Novi, Michigan on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday this weekend. We were discussing having a flyer of some of the train related items, such as the train clubs, etc. Larry P. & I were doing a little talking, and there has been mentioned there have been a few done already, and it would save everyone a lot of time if we could get a few ideas from those. 29,31c29,31 So, if anyone knows anything about this, or has any other ideas for = this, please respond to this, or personally to me. I am pretty excited, = even though I have all stock trains right now.=20 So, if anyone knows anything about this, or has any other ideas for this, please respond to this, or personally to me. I am pretty excited, even though I have all stock trains right now. 33,34c33,34 I am not sure if this belongs to general or not, so follow ups to trains = if it is the best place. I am not sure if this belongs to general or not, so follow ups to trains if it is the best place.
lugnet.general:30375 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 37 Lines: 34 27c28 One =A02 x4 brick escaped my collander =A0to go down the drain in my One 2 x4 brick escaped my collander to go down the drain in my 29,30c30 sink. =A0Has anyone else had this experience? =A0My sink has not slowed= - sink. Has anyone else had this experience? My sink has not slowed- 32,33c32 Will it just flush on through? =A0 =A0Is this going to cause me problem= s Will it just flush on through? Is this going to cause me problems 51,52c50 Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion= .com) Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion.com) 54,56c52,53 Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://= www.zzn.com. Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com.
lugnet.general:30494 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 82 Lines: 57 24,25c25 > = > 27,28c27 > = > 34,35c33 > > >Please leave the size of my browser window alone! I'll determine how= > > >Please leave the size of my browser window alone! I'll determine how 40,41c38 > > Now that's an interesting point. Do you often complain to book, magaz= ine or > > Now that's an interesting point. Do you often complain to book, magazine or 43,48c40,42 > = > It's a bit different, as the book, mag. etc. is published on paper, wit= h a > non-changeable font - browsers OTOH can give the user quite a lot of co= ntrol > > It's a bit different, as the book, mag. etc. is published on paper, with a > non-changeable font - browsers OTOH can give the user quite a lot of control 50,57c44,47 > = > My myopic eyes for example, very much dislike small fonts, so I often h= ave to > set the browser to use a larger size. There are also many color combina= tions > that are _very_ difficult to read, which make me turn the background of= f etc. > > My myopic eyes for example, very much dislike small fonts, so I often have to > set the browser to use a larger size. There are also many color combinations > that are _very_ difficult to read, which make me turn the background off etc. 59,66c49,52 > = > Now, if your Javascript sets the browser window size _absolute_, not re= lated > to the _used_ font size, that's bad - if it follows the font size it mi= ght be > OK, it depends on how large my screen is (and most pages do not test fo= r > > Now, if your Javascript sets the browser window size _absolute_, not related > to the _used_ font size, that's bad - if it follows the font size it might be > OK, it depends on how large my screen is (and most pages do not test for 68,69c54 > = > 71,80c56,60 > = > And that's quite OK - that should be a main concern, but the next step = should > be to think 'how will others see it', as one of the main reasons for a = web > site is to show it to others, otherwise it could have stayed on the har= d disk. > = > > And that's quite OK - that should be a main concern, but the next step should > be to think 'how will others see it', as one of the main reasons for a web > site is to show it to others, otherwise it could have stayed on the hard disk. > 82,83c62 > = > 85,89c64,66 > = > Just _my_ 2 =F6re (very insignificant amount of $) > = > > Just _my_ 2 öre (very insignificant amount of $) > 95,96c72 -- = --
lugnet.general:30772 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 118 Lines: 115 20,25c21,26 You're not going to get Mladen to cool down - he flies off the handle qui= te easily. I'm not going to waste my time trying to track down his physi= cal age, but his temper tantrums put him mentally at about 5-6. He seems= to think that ANYthing he thinks up must have been totally original and = noone else has ever done it, and if they have, they obviously copied it f= rom him (through some time warp). <yawn> You're not going to get Mladen to cool down - he flies off the handle quite easily. I'm not going to waste my time trying to track down his physical age, but his temper tantrums put him mentally at about 5-6. He seems to think that ANYthing he thinks up must have been totally original and noone else has ever done it, and if they have, they obviously copied it from him (through some time warp). <yawn> 29,32c30,31 > I am going to Copy and Paste and email he sent me, my reply, and then h= is > reply. I will edit it out for the younger viwers because he decided to = use > I am going to Copy and Paste and email he sent me, my reply, and then his > reply. I will edit it out for the younger viwers because he decided to use 37,53c36,53 > >Both your Wolf Spider M02 spidermech (http://brickshelf.com/cgi->bin/g= allery.cgi?f=3D4302) and Scorpion M01 (http://brickshelf.com/cgi->bin/gal= lery.cgi?f=3D3803) are directly inspired by my Spidertank(http://members.= attcanada.ca/~milovan/Spidertank.htm). The whole leg design on >the Scorp= ion is mine, and the twin gun turret on your Wolf Spider is directly >ins= pired by my Spidertank. > > >Please upload a text file name Credit.txt to both of those models Bric= kshelf >folders, explaining that those designs are mine or were inspired = by my >Spidertank. I would also like a link to my Spidertank webpage: >ht= tp://members.attcanada.ca/~milovan/Spidertank.htm. > > >Also, in this picture, http://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3D4= 2701, and >in this folder of pictures, http://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gall= ery.cgi?f=3D4267, >you have used Jeremy Sproat's Zhillch Levitator model = >(http://www.io.com/~jsproat/lego/hmsds/zhillch.shtml). You really ought = to >give him credit for this design as well. > >Both your Wolf Spider M02 spidermech > >(http://brickshelf.com/cgi->bin/gallery.cgi?f=4302) and Scorpion M01 > >(http://brickshelf.com/cgi->bin/gallery.cgi?f=3803) are directly inspired by > >my Spidertank(http://members.attcanada.ca/~milovan/Spidertank.htm). The whole > >leg design on >the Scorpion is mine, and the twin gun turret on your Wolf > >Spider is directly >inspired by my Spidertank. > > >Please upload a text file name Credit.txt to both of those models Brickshelf > >>folders, explaining that those designs are mine or were inspired by my > >>>Spidertank. I would also like a link to my Spidertank webpage: > >>>>http://members.attcanada.ca/~milovan/Spidertank.htm. > > >Also, in this picture, http://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=42701, and > >>in this folder of pictures, > >>http://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=4267, >you have used Jeremy > >>Sproat's Zhillch Levitator model > >>>(http://www.io.com/~jsproat/lego/hmsds/zhillch.shtml). You really ought to > >>>>give him credit for this design as well. 55,56c55,56 > >You really should have done all these things without me having to tell= you to. > >You really should have done all these things without me having to tell you > >to. 63,64c63 > >I also want you to GIVE ME CREDIT on your website for the same models.= > >I also want you to GIVE ME CREDIT on your website for the same models. 71,107c70,108 > > With all due respect, I appreciate your concern over the similar= ity of >your models over mine. I have talked to two people in the BrickLU= G chat room >over this issue and they say their is a simularity but only = in the knee >joints. The two people I talked to are current Mecha builers= =2E Abd about this >being your design sir, I believe that it is not. I sa= t down one November >Saturday and thought of how to do this. Now, if two = =2Espace builders both use >tires for engine caps is the first one going = to say it is his idea? I do not >believe so. The Scorpion M01 Spidermech = is partially based on the Dragoon >from the Blizzard game StarCraft, and = a design I came up with after playing >the first disc of Final Fantasy 7.= About the Wolf Spider M02, their is a more >startaling resembelnce in th= at one, but it is a reincarnation from my MFA->01 "Bowzer" Spidermech. I = disliked the design of the Bowzer and thought of >one cannon, based prima= rily off to the left or right side, but I eventuly > >split it into two for the weight deistribution to be correct. The carr= ige of >that is a modification of the one I came up with for the Scorpion= based on >the Dragoon from StarCraft. > > The Zhillich Levitator design is Mr. Sproat's. I will say that r= ight >away because I was having trouble coming up with a design for the T= rk'Pahn. >He asked if I wanted to use his design and I accepted. When I d= esign the page >for the Trk'Pahn ships and technology I will give Mr. Spr= oat the full credit >he deserves. But, until I do, the pictures are waiti= ng 'in stock' if you >will. The site for 'Enemies of Confed' is quite bar= e as you can see if you >read the page. Now, if you wish to claim that my= nanofig ships are based on >Karim Nassar's Pallas Spaceworks, they are. = I started this after seeing his >site and seeing how easy it was to make = nanofig ships. I have talked to him >and he has said as long as they are = not directly based on his design (I.E. >editing a DAT file, etc.) they wo= uld not fall under his copyright policy. > > You said that I should have done this without your telling me to= o. >Granted you caught me with the Zhillich Levitator (Trk'Pahn), that is= only >because I have not got there yet with my website. I will give him = the full >credit when I move more into the Trk'Pahn ships and creatures. = With my >Spidermechs similar to yours, I am not responsible for your desi= gn looking >like mine or likewise. If all fighters that have the standard= cockpit look >like somebody elses are they copied from one another? I be= lieve not. I hope >this settles your argument. > > With all due respect, I appreciate your concern over the similarity of > > >your models over mine. I have talked to two people in the BrickLUG > > >chat room >over this issue and they say their is a simularity but only > > >in the knee >joints. The two people I talked to are current Mecha > > >builers. Abd about this >being your design sir, I believe that it is > > >not. I sat down one November >Saturday and thought of how to do this. > > >Now, if two .space builders both use >tires for engine caps is the > > >first one going to say it is his idea? I do not >believe so. The > > >Scorpion M01 Spidermech is partially based on the Dragoon >from the > > >Blizzard game StarCraft, and a design I came up with after playing > > >>the first disc of Final Fantasy 7. About the Wolf Spider M02, their > > >>is a more >startaling resembelnce in that one, but it is a > > >>reincarnation from my MFA->01 "Bowzer" Spidermech. I disliked the > > >>design of the Bowzer and thought of >one cannon, based primarily off > > >>to the left or right side, but I eventuly > >split it into two for the weight deistribution to be correct. The carrige of > >>that is a modification of the one I came up with for the Scorpion based on > >>>the Dragoon from StarCraft. > > The Zhillich Levitator design is Mr. Sproat's. I will say that right > > >away because I was having trouble coming up with a design for the > > >Trk'Pahn. >He asked if I wanted to use his design and I accepted. When > > >I design the page >for the Trk'Pahn ships and technology I will give > > >Mr. Sproat the full credit >he deserves. But, until I do, the pictures > > >are waiting 'in stock' if you >will. The site for 'Enemies of Confed' > > >is quite bare as you can see if you >read the page. Now, if you wish > > >to claim that my nanofig ships are based on >Karim Nassar's Pallas > > >Spaceworks, they are. I started this after seeing his >site and seeing > > >how easy it was to make nanofig ships. I have talked to him >and he > > >has said as long as they are not directly based on his design (I.E. > > >>editing a DAT file, etc.) they would not fall under his copyright > > >>policy. > > You said that I should have done this without your telling me too. > > >Granted you caught me with the Zhillich Levitator (Trk'Pahn), that is > > >only >because I have not got there yet with my website. I will give > > >him the full >credit when I move more into the Trk'Pahn ships and > > >creatures. With my >Spidermechs similar to yours, I am not responsible > > >for your design looking >like mine or likewise. If all fighters that > > >have the standard cockpit look >like somebody elses are they copied > > >from one another? I believe not. I hope >this settles your argument. 112,113c113 > And finally, the EDITED version of his email. All eddited will be astri= cks. > And finally, the EDITED version of his email. All eddited will be astricks. 116,119c116,118 > >The leg design on your scorpion is MINE!!! Please give me credit for i= t!!!! > >*******! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO COPY AN IDEA FROM ME AND THEN THI= NK THAT IT IS YOUR OWN!!! > >The leg design on your scorpion is MINE!!! Please give me credit for it!!!! > >*******! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO COPY AN IDEA FROM ME AND THEN THINK THAT > >IT IS YOUR OWN!!! 122,126c121,124 > >If you do this and don't copy anything, anymore from my website I will= be SATISFIED! > >If you don't at least give me credit for the Scorpion leg design, I wi= ll get support from other LUGNETers and you can count on getting e-mail f= rom them! > >If you do this and don't copy anything, anymore from my website I will be > >SATISFIED! > >If you don't at least give me credit for the Scorpion leg design, I will get > >support from other LUGNETers and you can count on getting e-mail from them! 138,139d135
lugnet.general:39064 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 185 Lines: 135 21,22c22 http://www.vanree.net/~kmeijaard/fotoalbum/legoworld_2002/tn/image32.jpg.= html http://www.vanree.net/~kmeijaard/fotoalbum/legoworld_2002/tn/image32.jpg.html 31,35c31,33 >=20 > Today the biggest (and greatest!) Lego Fest ever will find its end. I m= yself > had the chance to attend Legoword 2002 in Zwolle/Netherlands for 3 of t= he 5 > > Today the biggest (and greatest!) Lego Fest ever will find its end. I myself > had the chance to attend Legoword 2002 in Zwolle/Netherlands for 3 of the 5 37c35 >=20 > 39c37 >=20 > 41c39 >=20 > 43c41 >=20 > 45c43 >=20 > 47,50c45,46 > After getting out of bed in the middle of the night I was driving the 3= 90 km > westwards to the Ijsselhallen in Zwolle. I had packed my car the evenin= g > After getting out of bed in the middle of the night I was driving the 390 km > westwards to the Ijsselhallen in Zwolle. I had packed my car the evening 52,60c48,52 >=20 > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till m= embers > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the bigge= st > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I = only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from '= de > > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till members > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the biggest > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from 'de 62,68c54,57 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_m= ood.jpg >=20 > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all = my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is no= t so > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_mood.jpg > > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is not so 70,79c59,63 > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the= train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had = left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track= > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it = when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates wit= h > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates with 81c65 >=20 > 83c67 >=20 > 85,87c69,70 >=20 > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from= the > > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from the 89,91c72,73 >=20 > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. m= ade by > > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. made by 93,95c75,76 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.j= pg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.jpg > 98,106c79,83 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_wor= ld.jpg >=20 > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably = most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big c= rowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms c= ontrol > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_world.jpg > > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big crowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms control 108,110c85,86 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_stat= ion.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_station.jpg > 112,114c88,89 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_schoo= l.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_school.jpg > 117c92 >=20 > 119,121c94,95 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jp= g >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jpg > 123,125c97,98 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts= =2Ejpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts.jpg > 128,132c101,103 >=20 > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving= in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the = signal > > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the signal 134,135c105 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_br= uecke.j > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_bruecke.j 137,139c107,108 >=20 > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending liv= e from > > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending live from 141,143c110,111 >=20 > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables= with > > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables with 145,153c113,117 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.= jpg >=20 > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements lik= e > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show= and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fa= st > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.jpg > > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements like > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fast 155,163c119,123 >=20 > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were all= owed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could sl= ide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30=B0= angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked real= ly > > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were allowed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could slide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30° angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked really 166,172c126,129 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun= =2Ejpg >=20 > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a ne= arly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very ope= n > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun.jpg > > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a nearly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very open 174c131 >=20 > 176c133 >=20 > 178,182c135,137 >=20 > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwstee= n' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Leg= o > > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwsteen' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Lego 184,193c139,144 >=20 > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the p= eople > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted a= nd I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink = support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep..= =2E. >=20 > > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the people > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted and I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep.... > 195c146 >=20 > 198c149 >=20 > 200c151 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D27260 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=27260 203,204c154 >=20 >
lugnet.general:39127 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, =D8yvind Steinnes wrote: On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Øyvind Steinnes wrote: 32c33 =09http://news.lugnet.com/db/inv/?n=3D1308&t=3Di&v=3Da http://news.lugnet.com/db/inv/?n=1308&t=i&v=a 39d39
lugnet.general:39358 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 28c29 > athletic footwear based on BIONICLE and other LEGO=AE properties. > athletic footwear based on BIONICLE and other LEGO® properties. 38d38
lugnet.general:40894 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 35,38c36,39 > I would encourage everyone to post a symbol of unity and condolences to t= he family of STS-107 on their web sites. Let's > show our LUGNET and LEGO community support. The STS-107 Patch can be fou= nd here: > I would encourage everyone to post a symbol of unity and condolences to the > family of STS-107 on their web sites. Let's > show our LUGNET and LEGO community support. The STS-107 Patch can be found > here: 40,45c41,45 Conformity: Proudly (\`--/') _ _______ .-r-. =20 serving painfully boring >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. =20 people since time began. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ =20 stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') =20 stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL =20 Conformity: Proudly (\`--/') _ _______ .-r-. serving painfully boring >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. people since time began. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL
lugnet.general:41214 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 29 Lines: 26 25,29c26,29 To more closely match the olde English, maybe, "Lo, lo," which means = "Look, look." In whichever form it is stated, however, I must admit to strong = agreement with the sentiment expressed..."An auto updater...would be a = god-send." To more closely match the olde English, maybe, "Lo, lo," which means "Look, look." In whichever form it is stated, however, I must admit to strong agreement with the sentiment expressed..."An auto updater...would be a god-send." 34c34 "John Rudy" <TJJohn12@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message = "John Rudy" <TJJohn12@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message 38c38 >=20 > 40,44c40,42 >=20 > I'm a casual user of the LDraw line, using MLCad to look at different = MOCs > around the community. But, I'm constantly plagued by "Part Number ... = Not > > I'm a casual user of the LDraw line, using MLCad to look at different MOCs > around the community. But, I'm constantly plagued by "Part Number ... Not 46c44 >=20 > 50c48 >=20 > 52d49
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lugnet.inst:138 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 53 Lines: 48 30,31c31,32 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D17480 >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=17480 > 33,35c34,35 >=20 > It has been a great joy to see the LB's people have made. Be sure to see = the > > It has been a great joy to see the LB's people have made. Be sure to see the 37c37 >=20 > 39,41c39,40 >=20 > If you have made a LB or would like to make one please send me a picture = and > > If you have made a LB or would like to make one please send me a picture and 43c42 >=20 > 47,49c46,48 >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D13028 >=20 > > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=13028 > 51,58c50,56 > http://bricksonthebrain.com/instructions/ (oooh it seems to be down right= now) >=20 > Ok so it's @ 9999 right now, but I think my hit just knocked over the 10K= mark. >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D17480 >=20 > http://bricksonthebrain.com/instructions/ (oooh it seems to be down right now) > > Ok so it's @ 9999 right now, but I think my hit just knocked over the 10K > mark. > > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=17480 > 60c58 >=20 > 63,64c61,62 >=20 --=20 > -- 66,72c64,67 easy to play the clown when you've >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. =20 got to run the whole circus. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ = =20 stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.')=20 stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL = =20 easy to play the clown when you've >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. got to run the whole circus. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL
lugnet.lego.direct:138 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 90 Lines: 74 19,20c20 Maybe, just maybe they've finally realised that there ARE people who = live Maybe, just maybe they've finally realised that there ARE people who live 22,25c22,23 people to have access to Lego Direct. Alternatively, they may have = decided to postpone release until they can cater to INTERNATIONAL demand, and = not people to have access to Lego Direct. Alternatively, they may have decided to postpone release until they can cater to INTERNATIONAL demand, and not 27,32c25,27 companies still seem to favor 1 country...and LEGO seems to have gone = from a company based in Denmark, and distributing world-wide to a company = based in the US, and catering to the US, with the dregs allowed to filter = through to companies still seem to favor 1 country...and LEGO seems to have gone from a company based in Denmark, and distributing world-wide to a company based in the US, and catering to the US, with the dregs allowed to filter through to 37,40c32,33 internet took off, there has been a lot of US only sets produced, and = other countries [notably Australia] have had their ranges significantly = reduced. internet took off, there has been a lot of US only sets produced, and other countries [notably Australia] have had their ranges significantly reduced. 42,43c35 interested in lego. I for one will probably cease to buy new lego (at = least interested in lego. I for one will probably cease to buy new lego (at least 45,46c37 significant boost either in the second half of the year, or early next = year. significant boost either in the second half of the year, or early next year. 49,52c40,41 [1] This would have to include at least 50% of the soccer AND mini-fig = packs at a REASONABLE price. Otherwise, I may end up boycotting Lego in = Australia, [1] This would have to include at least 50% of the soccer AND mini-fig packs at a REASONABLE price. Otherwise, I may end up boycotting Lego in Australia, 54,57c43,44 generally arrives a month or more before the sets are actually released = in Australia. [I hope Lego Australia is listening to this or that this = message generally arrives a month or more before the sets are actually released in Australia. [I hope Lego Australia is listening to this or that this message 59,62c46,47 Alternatively, I may just go back to collecting older sets, and not = buying new sets at all. [At least the models/sets were better than they are = now, Alternatively, I may just go back to collecting older sets, and not buying new sets at all. [At least the models/sets were better than they are now, 65,69c50,54 Benjamin Whytcross=20 BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au=20 Ph: (03) 9856 5282=20 Directory Technology Pty Ltd=20 1/436 Elgar Road,=20 Benjamin Whytcross BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au Ph: (03) 9856 5282 Directory Technology Pty Ltd 1/436 Elgar Road, 80,81c65,66 >=20 >=20 > > 83c68 > >And now that Brad's post is SIX weeks old, I'm wondering=20 > >And now that Brad's post is SIX weeks old, I'm wondering 86,87c71,72 >=20 > I've been wondering what's going on for a few weeks now. =20 > > I've been wondering what's going on for a few weeks now. 89c74 > said a lot of nice things, but so far it has been all talk=20 > said a lot of nice things, but so far it has been all talk 91c76 > (visible) results. We're still waiting for that list that=20 > (visible) results. We're still waiting for that list that 94,95c79,80 >=20 > >> > =B7 Initially, we will offer somewhere in the neighborhood=20 > > >> > · Initially, we will offer somewhere in the neighborhood 97c82 > >> > elements (standard bricks, some tiles and plates, etc.).=20 > >> > elements (standard bricks, some tiles and plates, etc.). 100,101c85,86 >=20 > Hey wait, isn't it June? It would be nice to hear SOMETHING=20 > > Hey wait, isn't it June? It would be nice to hear SOMETHING 103c88 > week or so (meaning 7-10 days). At this point once a month=20 > week or so (meaning 7-10 days). At this point once a month 106c91 >=20 > 108,109c93 >=20 >
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I believe that you can still do this in most countries, = as the >> lego distributer [at least in Aus] keeps several [unknown quantity] = copies >> of each set purely for the parts for people who's sets have come = without >> various parts [it does happen]. What I was referring to was that you = have >> And Australia, and probably other countries too, where we could order parts, >> and they'd do their best to get them for us [I only found out just before it >> ended here]. I believe that you can still do this in most countries, as the >> lego distributer [at least in Aus] keeps several [unknown quantity] copies >> of each set purely for the parts for people who's sets have come without >> various parts [it does happen]. What I was referring to was that you have 132,137c124,126 >I wouldn't even know who to call as a distributor, unless you mean = S@H/LD. And >if you do mean them, they really don't have THAT large a list of sets, = and if >you are looking for a particular one, you have to ask - they don't have = a S@H >I wouldn't even know who to call as a distributor, unless you mean S@H/LD. And >if you do mean them, they really don't have THAT large a list of sets, and if >you are looking for a particular one, you have to ask - they don't have a S@H 149,150c138 >> I'm not referring to this year in particular, I'm going back over the = past >> I'm not referring to this year in particular, I'm going back over the past 152,153c140 >> 'exclusive' set released in Australia may have been 6010 [petrol = pumps], but >> 'exclusive' set released in Australia may have been 6010 [petrol pumps], but 156,159c143,144 >Um SHELL sets - still not available in the US, except as a test = marketing in >SoCal (and they probably won't have a single set when I head down there = next >Um SHELL sets - still not available in the US, except as a test marketing in >SoCal (and they probably won't have a single set when I head down there next 164,165c149 >> I was refering to exclusives, NOT promotionals. [promos being sets = included >> I was refering to exclusives, NOT promotionals. [promos being sets included 169,170c153 >I wouldn't separate them that much, they are both highly limited = availability >I wouldn't separate them that much, they are both highly limited availability 173,178c156,158 >But with today's networking, the limited availability is somewhat moot. = I have >sent TONS of US-exclusive sets all over the world, and received tons of = non-US >exclusives too. It WOULD be nice if it were TLG distributing them to us,= rather >But with today's networking, the limited availability is somewhat moot. I have >sent TONS of US-exclusive sets all over the world, and received tons of non-US >exclusives too. It WOULD be nice if it were TLG distributing them to us, rather 187,190c167,168 >> Where do you think most of your LD parts are coming from? How do you = think >> the cost of Lego there became so cheap compared to the rest of the = world? >> Where do you think most of your LD parts are coming from? How do you think >> the cost of Lego there became so cheap compared to the rest of the world? 196,199c174,175 >> As to the park, I believe there's an officail lego store there where = you can >> purchase sets not available in other places [minifig packs, like in = the UK's >> As to the park, I believe there's an officail lego store there where you can >> purchase sets not available in other places [minifig packs, like in the UK's 202,203c178 >I've never seen anything exclusive except the keychains, most of which = you can >I've never seen anything exclusive except the keychains, most of which you can 214,215c189 >> apparently in Aus, too] Why do they need Beta testers, when they = already had >> apparently in Aus, too] Why do they need Beta testers, when they already had 218,219c192 >NZ/AU wasn't meant to BE a bulk ordering, from the details I've seen. = It was >NZ/AU wasn't meant to BE a bulk ordering, from the details I've seen. It was 238,239c211 >> > AUers sets/bulk packs, so it's not like you DON'T have access, you = do. >> > AUers sets/bulk packs, so it's not like you DON'T have access, you do. 242,245c214,215 >> available to the rest of the world, those who it doesn't serve are = stuck >> with having to pay twice for postage, as well as currency exchange = rates, >> available to the rest of the world, those who it doesn't serve are stuck >> with having to pay twice for postage, as well as currency exchange rates, 247,248c217 >> further delay of getting payment to the US, and then getting the = parcel to >> further delay of getting payment to the US, and then getting the parcel to 257,260c226,227 >> As opposed to your requesting TLG to start this service, which = resulted in >> the service available in other countries to be halted? [ie order a = part, and >> As opposed to your requesting TLG to start this service, which resulted in >> the service available in other countries to be halted? [ie order a part, and 263,264c230 >I don't follow - those aren't related. The shutdown of many supplies = were part >I don't follow - those aren't related. The shutdown of many supplies were part 279,284c245,247 >> It's not just LD's attitude, it's also LA...somehow our sets are = priced >> considerably higher than those in other countries. [we can often have = a set >> or several sets airmailed to us from the US at S@H prices, and even = with the >> It's not just LD's attitude, it's also LA...somehow our sets are priced >> considerably higher than those in other countries. [we can often have a set >> or several sets airmailed to us from the US at S@H prices, and even with the 287,290c250,251 >Some of that is the INSANE Customs crap you have to deal with - an = individual >can fib a bit on the value of stuff being sent to AU and probably get = away with >Some of that is the INSANE Customs crap you have to deal with - an individual >can fib a bit on the value of stuff being sent to AU and probably get away with 295,300c256,258 >> Anyway, I think had we still had our old parts service down here we = wouldn't >> be overly worried about LD. [and wasn't there a fair amount of = complaints >> when people in the US found about what used to be available in NZ and = wasn't >> Anyway, I think had we still had our old parts service down here we wouldn't >> be overly worried about LD. [and wasn't there a fair amount of complaints >> when people in the US found about what used to be available in NZ and wasn't 326,333c284,287 >> Well, this is the strange thing...LA was originally only going to get = in the >> soccer field from the football series and it was to be $119.95 [I saw = the >> price list from lego at more than 1 store]. Yet they were not only = able to >> get the entire range...they were also BELOW the cost of the sets in = the US: >> Well, this is the strange thing...LA was originally only going to get in the >> soccer field from the football series and it was to be $119.95 [I saw the >> price list from lego at more than 1 store]. Yet they were not only able to >> get the entire range...they were also BELOW the cost of the sets in the US: 339,342c293,294 >> Now, if LA can afford to sell the sets for this price, where do you = think >> the money from the higher prices was going...to the government in = taxes, etc >> Now, if LA can afford to sell the sets for this price, where do you think >> the money from the higher prices was going...to the government in taxes, etc 345,348c297,298 >> As to setting up the warehousing for LD, when we had the 'better than = LD' >> service, parts would arrive within a week. [if they had them] So = obviously >> As to setting up the warehousing for LD, when we had the 'better than LD' >> service, parts would arrive within a week. [if they had them] So obviously 366d315
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lugnet.lego.direct:490 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 116 Lines: 107 20,29c21,25 >I just found a sheet of paper with notes from a phone conversation with = Brad >from early April. During the conversation, one of the things he said = was that >LEGO is "not looking to create our own adult community." It doesn't = mean that >they won't or couldn't, but I think it clearly means that their current = focus >is the younger crowd. Brad also said that he wanted to "minimize = overlap." >I just found a sheet of paper with notes from a phone conversation with Brad >from early April. During the conversation, one of the things he said was that >LEGO is "not looking to create our own adult community." It doesn't mean that >they won't or couldn't, but I think it clearly means that their current focus >is the younger crowd. Brad also said that he wanted to "minimize overlap." 90c86 =20 104,105c100 >Brad mentioned in July that as the official LEGO site www.lego.com = grows, >Brad mentioned in July that as the official LEGO site www.lego.com grows, 107,110c102,103 >Castle area to http://news.lugnet.com/castle/ (that was the example = Brad >gave). Similarly, the LUGNET pages could link to official LEGO areas, = and >Castle area to http://news.lugnet.com/castle/ (that was the example Brad >gave). Similarly, the LUGNET pages could link to official LEGO areas, and 116,117c109 >off-site "deep linking" -- basically amounting to the right type of = disclaimer >off-site "deep linking" -- basically amounting to the right type of disclaimer 136d127
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lugnet.legoland.windsor:67 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 23 Lines: 16 25,26c26 > = > 28,31c28,29 > offering =A35 off admission to LLW for a 'Fireworks and Fantasy' show o= n > Friday the 6th of November. I can't find any reference to this on Lego= =2Ecom > offering £5 off admission to LLW for a 'Fireworks and Fantasy' show on > Friday the 6th of November. I can't find any reference to this on Lego.com 33,40c31,34 > = > The coupon is valid for up to 6 people. The gates close at 6pm and the= show > starts at 6.30. Has anyone else heard of this? Is anyone planning to = go? > = > > The coupon is valid for up to 6 people. The gates close at 6pm and the show > starts at 6.30. Has anyone else heard of this? Is anyone planning to go? >
lugnet.loc.au:850 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 46 Lines: 42 21c22 171 loc.au =B7 171 loc.au · 27,34c28,31 Now if we can keep this up, we might even be able to de-trone the = yanks. [Of course TLG, and LA will still treat us as their lowest priority = regardless of our complaints/status here. Looks like we should maybe boycot lego = in Australia, and get the new sets imported form the US/Europe. At least = that Now if we can keep this up, we might even be able to de-trone the yanks. [Of course TLG, and LA will still treat us as their lowest priority regardless of our complaints/status here. Looks like we should maybe boycot lego in Australia, and get the new sets imported form the US/Europe. At least that 37,41c34,38 Benjamin Whytcross=20 BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au=20 Ph: (03) 9856 5282=20 Directory Technology Pty Ltd=20 1/436 Elgar Road,=20 Benjamin Whytcross BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au Ph: (03) 9856 5282 Directory Technology Pty Ltd 1/436 Elgar Road, 52,53c49,50 >=20 >=20 > > 55,56c52,53 >=20 > 170 loc.au =B7 > > 170 loc.au · 59,60c56,57 >=20 >=20 > > 62c59 >=20 > 64,65c61 >=20 >
lugnet.loc.au:2404 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 21 20,23c21,22 edition of 'Collectors Gazette' and there were 2 articles: one = regarding [from what I saw] a persons lego collection [with a large building of = some edition of 'Collectors Gazette' and there were 2 articles: one regarding [from what I saw] a persons lego collection [with a large building of some 26,27c25 [includes STONE construction bricks, which I believe were similar to = lego, [includes STONE construction bricks, which I believe were similar to lego, 30,37c28,31 Unfortunately, as this publication costs $10 down here,[=A31.75 in the = UK which is under $5 Aus] I thought it was a little over-priced, but if = anyone has a copy, I'd be interested in seeing a scanned copy of the articles. = [Or if you don't want them, I'd be interested in the articles themselves :) = ] Unfortunately, as this publication costs $10 down here,[£1.75 in the UK which is under $5 Aus] I thought it was a little over-priced, but if anyone has a copy, I'd be interested in seeing a scanned copy of the articles. [Or if you don't want them, I'd be interested in the articles themselves :) ] 39,43c33,37 Benjamin Whytcross=20 BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au=20 Ph: (03) 9856 5282=20 Directory Technology Pty Ltd=20 1/436 Elgar Road,=20 Benjamin Whytcross BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au Ph: (03) 9856 5282 Directory Technology Pty Ltd 1/436 Elgar Road, 47d40
lugnet.loc.au:2416 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 168 Lines: 145 19,26c20,23 I'm looking for some information on a catalogue I acquired yesterday in = a bunch of mixed parts from the 50's (?) to possibly the 80's. [Includes = CA bricks, I think] The main information I'm after is what year the = catalogue was issued for, and what sets it was likely to have come with, or = whether it I'm looking for some information on a catalogue I acquired yesterday in a bunch of mixed parts from the 50's (?) to possibly the 80's. [Includes CA bricks, I think] The main information I'm after is what year the catalogue was issued for, and what sets it was likely to have come with, or whether it 29,34c26,28 The catalogue is English, and was "PRINTED IN GT. BRITAIN" and is 8 = pages. [I'm not describing all pictures or even mentioning most of them, as = this would be entirely too long if I did. I'll try and get scans up tonight, = or The catalogue is English, and was "PRINTED IN GT. BRITAIN" and is 8 pages. [I'm not describing all pictures or even mentioning most of them, as this would be entirely too long if I did. I'll try and get scans up tonight, or 38,45c32,35 Picture of a boy building a tower with bricks in red, white, blue, = yellow, black, and clear on a grey 700/e plate. There are classic windows and = doors, wheels, but no sloped bricks visible. Below this is a red rectangle = with 'LEGO (R)' in white with a black border, and 'The Building Toy' in = yellow Picture of a boy building a tower with bricks in red, white, blue, yellow, black, and clear on a grey 700/e plate. There are classic windows and doors, wheels, but no sloped bricks visible. Below this is a red rectangle with 'LEGO (R)' in white with a black border, and 'The Building Toy' in yellow 72c62 Lego bricks are so easy to build with, you don't need=20 Lego bricks are so easy to build with, you don't need 74,75c64 Below all this is a similar house and building explanation to that at = the Below all this is a similar house and building explanation to that at the 78,79c67 Page 3: [" ALL prices apply to U.K. only and are subject to = alteration"] Page 3: [" ALL prices apply to U.K. only and are subject to alteration"] 88,91c76,77 "Even the smallest 010 set will build animals, soldiers and ships as = well as houses. Of course, a bigger set builds more models, gives more fun. The = 050 "Even the smallest 010 set will build animals, soldiers and ships as well as houses. Of course, a bigger set builds more models, gives more fun. The 050 95,96c81 Picture of a completed town plan set [with 8 cars and 4 trucks], it's = closed Picture of a completed town plan set [with 8 cars and 4 trucks], it's closed 98,103c83,86 "Set 810 The Complete Town Plan Set =A37.19.6. The most wonderful present the Lego enthusiast can receive. The = Complete Town Plan Set contains all the bricks and parts you need as shown = above. Set 700K in strong wooden box. =A35.5.0" "Set 810 The Complete Town Plan Set £7.19.6. The most wonderful present the Lego enthusiast can receive. The Complete Town Plan Set contains all the bricks and parts you need as shown above. Set 700K in strong wooden box. £5.5.0" 148,149c131 The Pull Toy, of jumbo sized Lego bricks is specially designed for = Children The Pull Toy, of jumbo sized Lego bricks is specially designed for Children 163,164c145 I hope that this information is useful in working out where this = catalogue I hope that this information is useful in working out where this catalogue 168,169c149 [1] This seems as true now as whenever it was written [about parents = [Dad in [1] This seems as true now as whenever it was written [about parents [Dad in 171,172c151 [2] I had thought lego was against this sort of things [soldiers] but = this [2] I had thought lego was against this sort of things [soldiers] but this 174,175c153 [3] These are CERTAINLY not DUPLO...the studs appear to be the size of = a 4x4 [3] These are CERTAINLY not DUPLO...the studs appear to be the size of a 4x4 179,183c157,161 Benjamin Whytcross=20 BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au=20 Ph: (03) 9856 5282=20 Directory Technology Pty Ltd=20 1/436 Elgar Road,=20 Benjamin Whytcross BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au Ph: (03) 9856 5282 Directory Technology Pty Ltd 1/436 Elgar Road, 187d164
lugnet.loc.au:7873 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 65 Lines: 62 19,41c20,40 Sunday saw the ninth yes ninth official meeting for the Brisbane & = Regional Lego User Group. With hot weather the day before, many expected = it to be another hot one, but it wasn't thank JC. We had a total of 10 = BUGS in attendance. The day was packed with the usual chats and show of = creations & a shopping expedition. The days theme of a Christmas train = carriage & a building, was successful. BUGS.09 was held at Gary's place and as mentioned & a huge attendance. = Present were Aaron Coghill, Kerry Raymond, Melody Brown, Michael = Dallaston, Peter Parsons, Tara Anderson, Chris Byron, and Kyle ??. And = one can not forget the hosts Gary Quinlan & Calium Quinlan. As we arrived in dribs and drabs, most action was centred around Gary's = town\train display, and the creation table where we all displayed our = efforts. Kerry had a busy morning creating a "Harry Potter" Christmas = dinner (please don't ask who was there as I haven't read or seen the = movie), none the less it was a great building. Tara had the green dragon = from Lego, and a train carriage. Aaron brought along a small house with = loads of Christmas lights over it roof, and a train carriage depicting = Santa and a reindeer on a roof. Chris created a technic Christmas tree. = Who else, ahhh, Ken and Peter both brought along a train carriage. Gary = showed off part of the DACTA range, the solar cell and the capacitor, = also were the specialist light bricks from the UK. Sunday saw the ninth yes ninth official meeting for the Brisbane & Regional Lego User Group. With hot weather the day before, many expected it to be another hot one, but it wasn't thank JC. We had a total of 10 BUGS in attendance. The day was packed with the usual chats and show of creations & a shopping expedition. The days theme of a Christmas train carriage & a building, was successful. BUGS.09 was held at Gary's place and as mentioned & a huge attendance. Present were Aaron Coghill, Kerry Raymond, Melody Brown, Michael Dallaston, Peter Parsons, Tara Anderson, Chris Byron, and Kyle ??. And one can not forget the hosts Gary Quinlan & Calium Quinlan. As we arrived in dribs and drabs, most action was centred around Gary's town\train display, and the creation table where we all displayed our efforts. Kerry had a busy morning creating a "Harry Potter" Christmas dinner (please don't ask who was there as I haven't read or seen the movie), none the less it was a great building. Tara had the green dragon from Lego, and a train carriage. Aaron brought along a small house with loads of Christmas lights over it roof, and a train carriage depicting Santa and a reindeer on a roof. Chris created a technic Christmas tree. Who else, ahhh, Ken and Peter both brought along a train carriage. Gary showed off part of the DACTA range, the solar cell and the capacitor, also were the specialist light bricks from the UK. 43c42 After lunch we all headed down to the local shops for some spending. But = After lunch we all headed down to the local shops for some spending. But 46,68c45,66 The gang headed over to a Christmas display (one of those home owners = that gets carried away with Christmas decos) to set-up the train, so = people of the public can oooohh and ahhhhh.=20 Now to the shops. Kmart was the place to be for $89 UCS Tie fighters, = and only one was grabbed as most already have one. The big news from = that store was spotting the Ogel command centre #6776. Now as we all = know the Lego Group recalled this item after certain events in the USA. = Taking it to the checkout we were told " the Lego Company has recalled = this product because there is a fault and we would not be happy with our = purchase. Big W and Toyworld were also visited with only one making a = purchase. Back to Gary's for some Cake and Coffee, then I said those three word = most had been waiting for; SHOP AT HOME. Well with notices by Lego that orders must be in by a certain time for = the Christmas deliveries, the S@H site was extremely slow. Ken did a = great job putting a hole in the wallet so did Aaron and Gary, (all = buying up on train stuff). Remaining members helped Kyle's mum pick a = Christmas present and approval was given by Kylie himself (lucky man). = With the net slow and ever changing orders I'm surprised that we got the = order in at all. Most popular item, the Cypress tree pack. The gang headed over to a Christmas display (one of those home owners that gets carried away with Christmas decos) to set-up the train, so people of the public can oooohh and ahhhhh. Now to the shops. Kmart was the place to be for $89 UCS Tie fighters, and only one was grabbed as most already have one. The big news from that store was spotting the Ogel command centre #6776. Now as we all know the Lego Group recalled this item after certain events in the USA. Taking it to the checkout we were told " the Lego Company has recalled this product because there is a fault and we would not be happy with our purchase. Big W and Toyworld were also visited with only one making a purchase. Back to Gary's for some Cake and Coffee, then I said those three word most had been waiting for; SHOP AT HOME. Well with notices by Lego that orders must be in by a certain time for the Christmas deliveries, the S@H site was extremely slow. Ken did a great job putting a hole in the wallet so did Aaron and Gary, (all buying up on train stuff). Remaining members helped Kyle's mum pick a Christmas present and approval was given by Kylie himself (lucky man). With the net slow and ever changing orders I'm surprised that we got the order in at all. Most popular item, the Cypress tree pack. 70,71c68,69 So thanks once again to Gary and his family for allowing us the use of = their home for the meet. So thanks once again to Gary and his family for allowing us the use of their home for the meet.
lugnet.loc.be:76 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 185 Lines: 135 21,22c22 http://www.vanree.net/~kmeijaard/fotoalbum/legoworld_2002/tn/image32.jpg.= html http://www.vanree.net/~kmeijaard/fotoalbum/legoworld_2002/tn/image32.jpg.html 31,35c31,33 >=20 > Today the biggest (and greatest!) Lego Fest ever will find its end. I m= yself > had the chance to attend Legoword 2002 in Zwolle/Netherlands for 3 of t= he 5 > > Today the biggest (and greatest!) Lego Fest ever will find its end. I myself > had the chance to attend Legoword 2002 in Zwolle/Netherlands for 3 of the 5 37c35 >=20 > 39c37 >=20 > 41c39 >=20 > 43c41 >=20 > 45c43 >=20 > 47,50c45,46 > After getting out of bed in the middle of the night I was driving the 3= 90 km > westwards to the Ijsselhallen in Zwolle. I had packed my car the evenin= g > After getting out of bed in the middle of the night I was driving the 390 km > westwards to the Ijsselhallen in Zwolle. I had packed my car the evening 52,60c48,52 >=20 > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till m= embers > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the bigge= st > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I = only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from '= de > > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till members > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the biggest > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from 'de 62,68c54,57 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_m= ood.jpg >=20 > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all = my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is no= t so > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_mood.jpg > > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is not so 70,79c59,63 > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the= train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had = left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track= > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it = when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates wit= h > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates with 81c65 >=20 > 83c67 >=20 > 85,87c69,70 >=20 > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from= the > > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from the 89,91c72,73 >=20 > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. m= ade by > > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. made by 93,95c75,76 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.j= pg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.jpg > 98,106c79,83 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_wor= ld.jpg >=20 > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably = most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big c= rowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms c= ontrol > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_world.jpg > > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big crowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms control 108,110c85,86 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_stat= ion.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_station.jpg > 112,114c88,89 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_schoo= l.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_school.jpg > 117c92 >=20 > 119,121c94,95 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jp= g >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jpg > 123,125c97,98 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts= =2Ejpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts.jpg > 128,132c101,103 >=20 > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving= in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the = signal > > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the signal 134,135c105 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_br= uecke.j > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_bruecke.j 137,139c107,108 >=20 > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending liv= e from > > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending live from 141,143c110,111 >=20 > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables= with > > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables with 145,153c113,117 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.= jpg >=20 > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements lik= e > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show= and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fa= st > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.jpg > > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements like > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fast 155,163c119,123 >=20 > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were all= owed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could sl= ide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30=B0= angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked real= ly > > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were allowed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could slide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30° angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked really 166,172c126,129 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun= =2Ejpg >=20 > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a ne= arly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very ope= n > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun.jpg > > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a nearly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very open 174c131 >=20 > 176c133 >=20 > 178,182c135,137 >=20 > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwstee= n' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Leg= o > > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwsteen' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Lego 184,193c139,144 >=20 > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the p= eople > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted a= nd I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink = support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep..= =2E. >=20 > > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the people > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted and I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep.... > 195c146 >=20 > 198c149 >=20 > 200c151 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D27260 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=27260 203,204c154 >=20 >
lugnet.loc.be:92 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 72 Lines: 64 23,24c24 > >Je m'appelle Jean, j'ai 39 ans et je suis Li=E9geois, je viens de m'insc= rire > >Je m'appelle Jean, j'ai 39 ans et je suis Liégeois, je viens de m'inscrire 29,36c29,33 > >plus le plaisir de l'utiliser que tr=E8s rarement. Si je pouvais avoir u= n o=F9 > >plusieurs contacts en Fran=E7ais cela m'aiderai beaucoup. >=20 > Je pe=FBt seulement te sug=E9rer d'=E9crire une message sur lugnet.loc.fr= - l=E0 ils > ont un groupe assez actif, avec le fran=E7ais comme langue primaire. Les = gars > >plus le plaisir de l'utiliser que très rarement. Si je pouvais avoir un où > >plusieurs contacts en Français cela m'aiderai beaucoup. > > Je peût seulement te sugérer d'écrire une message sur lugnet.loc.fr - là ils > ont un groupe assez actif, avec le français comme langue primaire. Les gars 61,66c58,60 > >sur pieds une amicale, o=F9 un club d'amateurs de Lego, je ne croix pas = qu'il > >en existe une dans les environs de Li=E8ge, ou du moins, je n'en ais jam= ais > >entendu parler. Ce serai peut-=EAtre une bonne id=E9e, qu'en pensez-vous= ? > >sur pieds une amicale, où un club d'amateurs de Lego, je ne croix pas qu'il > >en existe une dans les environs de Liège, ou du moins, je n'en ais jamais > >entendu parler. Ce serai peut-être une bonne idée, qu'en pensez-vous? 71c65 :-))=20 :-)) 78,79c72 > (un portugais, qui =E0 peu plus de deux ans a mis une message tr=E9s pare= ille > (un portugais, qui à peu plus de deux ans a mis une message trés pareille 88,92c81,84 BERGAMO Jean-Louis=09=09<jlb@freelug.org> =09=09http://www.freelug.org/ =09 FREnch Enthousiast LEGO User Group =09Site d'informations francophones sur les LEGO BERGAMO Jean-Louis <jlb@freelug.org> http://www.freelug.org/ FREnch Enthousiast LEGO User Group Site d'informations francophones sur les LEGO
lugnet.loc.br:213 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 36 19c20 Ol=E1 Olá 21,34c22,33 Eu estava passeando pela lugnet e lendo algumas mensagens bem antigas de = nosso grupo lugnet.loc.br de 1999. Estava lendo sobre registro de = dom=EDnio e home page.=20 O que aconteceu? Vi v=E1rias id=E9ias, como www.lego.com.br = www.brlug.com.br www.brlug.org.br. Foi criada alguma p=E1gina? algum = registro de dominio? Algum logotipo? Bem, estou animado em uma pagina de = lego que seja a "oficial do Brasil". Voc=EAs est=E3o muito calados. Est=E3o todos bem? hehe.. Ou est=E3o = ocupados brincando com lego? Por favor, quem estiver lendo, responda! Pelo menos pra saber quantas = pessoas ainda est=E3o vivas aqui e se vcs estao com vontade de montar a = p=E1gina... Eu estava passeando pela lugnet e lendo algumas mensagens bem antigas de nosso grupo lugnet.loc.br de 1999. Estava lendo sobre registro de domínio e home page. O que aconteceu? Vi várias idéias, como www.lego.com.br www.brlug.com.br www.brlug.org.br. Foi criada alguma página? algum registro de dominio? Algum logotipo? Bem, estou animado em uma pagina de lego que seja a "oficial do Brasil". Vocês estão muito calados. Estão todos bem? hehe.. Ou estão ocupados brincando com lego? Por favor, quem estiver lendo, responda! Pelo menos pra saber quantas pessoas ainda estão vivas aqui e se vcs estao com vontade de montar a página... 41c40 Se ninguem topar registrar dominio, etc, etc, eu fiz um registro = Se ninguem topar registrar dominio, etc, etc, eu fiz um registro 43,45c42,44 ta certo que dominio hpg nao =E9 muito bonito mas... s=F3 pra pelo menos = ter uma pagina do grupo... ou www.legobrasil.hpg.com.br (esse parece que = alguem ja registrou...) ta certo que dominio hpg nao é muito bonito mas... só pra pelo menos ter uma pagina do grupo... ou www.legobrasil.hpg.com.br (esse parece que alguem ja registrou...) 47,48c46,47 Bem, =E9 isso... At=E9+! Bem, é isso... Até+!
lugnet.loc.br:215 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 31 22,23c23 Eu estou conversando com outras pessoas que gostam de LEGO e sobre a = BRLUG. Eu estou conversando com outras pessoas que gostam de LEGO e sobre a BRLUG. 25,26c25 informa=E7oes, links, se=E7=E3o de quem est=E1 querendo vender ou = comprar lego... informaçoes, links, seção de quem está querendo vender ou comprar lego... 31,35c30,32 Que que voce acha Helio? Eu to animado a fazer a BRLUG... Tem outras = pessoas que tb est=E3o... Eu pedi um amigo meu se podia fazer um logotipo da BRLUG... ele est=E1 = para me Que que voce acha Helio? Eu to animado a fazer a BRLUG... Tem outras pessoas que tb estão... Eu pedi um amigo meu se podia fazer um logotipo da BRLUG... ele está para me 39,43c36,39 eu achei algumas varia=E7=F5es em pe=E7as de Technic, quem interessar e = quiser ver, o endere=E7o =E9 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D40752 est=E1 com umas 660 visitas j=E1 :))) eu achei algumas variações em peças de Technic, quem interessar e quiser ver, o endereço é http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=40752 está com umas 660 visitas já :))) 45c41 Abra=E7os!! Abraços!!
lugnet.loc.br:236 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,22c20,23 Ha duas semanas comprei alguns sets LEGO pela king e perguntei quando = chegariam os novos sets 2003. A pessoa me disse que esta semana eles ja = estariam na home page E adivinha? Hoje eu entrei la e...!!!! La est=E3o: Ha duas semanas comprei alguns sets LEGO pela king e perguntei quando chegariam os novos sets 2003. A pessoa me disse que esta semana eles ja estariam na home page E adivinha? Hoje eu entrei la e...!!!! La estão: 26c27 Para as pessoas que gostam de System ou Robotics. Pena eu nenhum nao me = Para as pessoas que gostam de System ou Robotics. Pena eu nenhum nao me 28c29 Mas para quem gosta, l=E1 est=E1. Mas para quem gosta, lá está. 30,32c31,33 Boas Compras!! (aaahhh, se alguem daqui for comprar algo l=E1, diga que = ficou sabendo da king.com.br/lego atrav=E9s da BRLUG!!! Assim a gente = pode aumentar nossa popularidade) Boas Compras!! (aaahhh, se alguem daqui for comprar algo lá, diga que ficou sabendo da king.com.br/lego através da BRLUG!!! Assim a gente pode aumentar nossa popularidade) 34c35 Abra=E7os Abraços
lugnet.loc.br:242 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 estou tentando lhe enviar um email mas ele est=E1 retornando sempre!! = Qual =E9 seu email correto? freakbrick@yahoo.com ? estou tentando lhe enviar um email mas ele está retornando sempre!! Qual é seu email correto? freakbrick@yahoo.com ? 24,25c25,26 Me desculpem fazer esta pergunta aqui no grupo de discussao, est=E1 fora = do assunto.. Me desculpem fazer esta pergunta aqui no grupo de discussao, está fora do assunto..
lugnet.loc.br:244 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 29 19c20 Nao tem muito tempo que comprei pela king.com.br/lego o set 8246 = Nao tem muito tempo que comprei pela king.com.br/lego o set 8246 22,28c23,27 Pela peeron = http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/inv/sets/8246-1?withpics=3Dyes o = inventario nos diz que ele vem com 5x correias brancas White Rubber Belt = Small. S=F3 que no meu set s=F3 vieram duas!!!! E vieram fora dos = plasticos que embalam as pelas, estavam soltas na caixa.. Ser=E1 que para o Brasil eles mandam com menos pe=E7as? A caixa do set = diz: Pela peeron http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/inv/sets/8246-1?withpics=yes o inventario nos diz que ele vem com 5x correias brancas White Rubber Belt Small. Só que no meu set só vieram duas!!!! E vieram fora dos plasticos que embalam as pelas, estavam soltas na caixa.. Será que para o Brasil eles mandam com menos peças? A caixa do set diz: 32,34c31,32 Nao encontrei nenhum logotipo da estrela, somente um selo do Inmetro e = outro selo dizendo que nao =E9 recomendavel para crian=E7as menores de 3 = anos Nao encontrei nenhum logotipo da estrela, somente um selo do Inmetro e outro selo dizendo que nao é recomendavel para crianças menores de 3 anos 36c34 Ou ser=E1 que o inventario esta errado na peeron? Ou será que o inventario esta errado na peeron?
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lugnet.loc.ca.on.tor:14 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Hi, I would really like to know if there are any places that I can find = some old Lego sets. I was planning to attend a flea market but I'm not = sure if I'll find some treasure down there. Hi, I would really like to know if there are any places that I can find some old Lego sets. I was planning to attend a flea market but I'm not sure if I'll find some treasure down there. 25d25
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lugnet.loc.de:554 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 144 Lines: 120 21,22c22,23 Unglaublich. Den ganzen Tag mit Jojo reden (ja, ja, ich bin nat=FCrlich=20 einer der 'Lurker', ha!), und dann auch noch Zeit finden f=FCr ein=20 Unglaublich. Den ganzen Tag mit Jojo reden (ja, ja, ich bin natürlich einer der 'Lurker', ha!), und dann auch noch Zeit finden für ein 25c26 Die Geschichte war mir schon bekannt, aber es ist jetzt auch mit=20 Die Geschichte war mir schon bekannt, aber es ist jetzt auch mit 34c35 > Neues aus =A1=A1=A1K=F6lle!!!: > Neues aus ¡¡¡Kölle!!!: 36,38c37,39 >=20 > Gru=DF >=20 > > Gruß > 40,42c41,43 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > 46c47 >=20 > 49c50 > mit zwei Kupferschalen: Mit einer =BBumgekehrten=AB > mit zwei Kupferschalen: Mit einer »umgekehrten« 55,63c56,64 > den Halbkugeln, der Luftdruck, ist st=E4rker. >=20 > Das spektakul=E4re Experiment mit den > =BBMagdeburger Halbkugeln=AB wiederholt Guericke > 1663 mit 24 Pferden f=FCr den Kurf=FCrsten in Berlin. > Diese Vorf=FChrung ist einer von vielen Versuchen > =FCber das Vakuum, die Otto von Guericke zwischen > 1646 und 1663 anstellt: Sie zeigen auch, da=DF > Feuer ohne Luft nicht brennen kann, da=DF > den Halbkugeln, der Luftdruck, ist stärker. > > Das spektakuläre Experiment mit den > »Magdeburger Halbkugeln« wiederholt Guericke > 1663 mit 24 Pferden für den Kurfürsten in Berlin. > Diese Vorführung ist einer von vielen Versuchen > über das Vakuum, die Otto von Guericke zwischen > 1646 und 1663 anstellt: Sie zeigen auch, daß > Feuer ohne Luft nicht brennen kann, daß 65,66c66,67 > halten, vor allem aber, da=DF sich mit Luftdruck > Arbeit verrichten l=E4=DFt. Alle Experimente basieren > halten, vor allem aber, daß sich mit Luftdruck > Arbeit verrichten läßt. Alle Experimente basieren 68,69c69,70 > aus einer =BBumgekehrten=AB Feuerspritze entwickelt. >=20 > aus einer »umgekehrten« Feuerspritze entwickelt. > 72c73 > beschaffen? Diese Frage besch=E4ftigte schon die > beschaffen? Diese Frage beschäftigte schon die 74,75c75,76 > Otto von Guericke =FCberzeugt 1656 mit dem > =BBHalbkugel-Experiment=AB die =D6ffentlichkeit von der > Otto von Guericke überzeugt 1656 mit dem > »Halbkugel-Experiment« die Öffentlichkeit von der 77c78 >=20 > 79,83c80,82 > =FCberzeugt, da=DF es= so etwas > wie =BBLeere=AB oder > =BBVakuum=AB nicht ge= ben k=F6nne. > überzeugt, daß es so etwas > wie »Leere« oder > »Vakuum« nicht geben könne. 85,86c84 > des =BBNichts=AB wide= rspricht > des »Nichts« widerspricht 88,89c86 > Erst dem Galilei-Sch=FC= ler > Erst dem Galilei-Schüler 93,94c90 > Vakuum. Blaise Pascal= > Vakuum. Blaise Pascal 97,99c93,94 >=20 > Otto von Guericke bau= t auf > > Otto von Guericke baut auf 101,102c96 > auf. Er kann daraufhi= n die > auf. Er kann daraufhin die 104,105c98 > ermitteln, die auf ei= ne > ermitteln, die auf eine 108,112c101,103 >=20 > ...zum Teilchenbeschl= euniger > Guericke bahnt mit se= inen > > ...zum Teilchenbeschleuniger > Guericke bahnt mit seinen 114,115c105 > Vakuum nicht nur den = Weg zu > Vakuum nicht nur den Weg zu 117,118c107 > Weltsicht, sondern au= ch zur > Weltsicht, sondern auch zur 120,121c109 > Wissenschaft. Er gilt= als > Wissenschaft. Er gilt als 123,127c111,113 > experimentellen Physi= k. >=20 > Die wissenschaftliche= n > experimentellen Physik. > > Die wissenschaftlichen 129,130c115 > bald umgesetzt: Denis= Papin > bald umgesetzt: Denis Papin 134,135c119 > Vorl=E4ufer der Watts= chen > Vorläufer der Wattschen 137,138c121 > Bewegungslehre Newton= s fu=DFt > Bewegungslehre Newtons fußt 140,141c123,124 > =DCberlegungen. >=20 > Überlegungen. > 144,147c127,128 > Industrie, aber auch = aus der > naturwissenschaftlich= en > Industrie, aber auch aus der > naturwissenschaftlichen 149,150c130 > Vakuumtechnik nicht m= ehr > Vakuumtechnik nicht mehr 152,153c132 > Gl=FChbirne, Fernsehs= chirm > Glühbirne, Fernsehschirm 155,156c134 > R=F6ntgenstrahlen und= > Röntgenstrahlen und 158,159c136 > ohne Vakuum w=E4re di= e moderne > ohne Vakuum wäre die moderne 162,163c139 >=20 >
lugnet.loc.de:566 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 52 Lines: 41 21,27c22,25 =20 > Nein - tats=E4chlich war hier heute die Heizungsanlage in weiten Teilen= des > Geb=E4udes ausgefallen (und drau=DFen -8=B0C !!) - da mu=DFte man zwisc= hendurch immer > mal in den Serverraum zum Aufw=E4rmen. Computer machen es da auch ohne = Heizung > Nein - tatsächlich war hier heute die Heizungsanlage in weiten Teilen des > Gebäudes ausgefallen (und draußen -8°C !!) - da mußte man zwischendurch immer > mal in den Serverraum zum Aufwärmen. Computer machen es da auch ohne Heizung 31,44c29,38 Hmm, interesse in etwas andere Arbeit?? Ich habe noch ungef. 45 grosse=20 Weihnachtsb=E4ume zu lieferen im Akad. Krankenhaus in Nimwegen. Schwere arbeit und viel laufen, Kunde suchen, laufen, laufen..... aber=20 mit aussicht auf viele h=FCbsche Damen. Also, aufw=E4rmen geht einfach, h= a! >=20 > Das von Guericke-Experiment ist der 2. ISCC Beitrag von unserem K=F6lne= r Mit-Fan > Michael Schian (den wir iiiK=F6lle!!! nennen, weil er gerne reichlich > Ausrufezeichen !!!! verwendet). Ich fand sein Modell sehr 'einfach' abe= r auch > sehr =FCberraschend. Um hier das lugnet.loc mal wieder zu reaktivieren = quatschen Hmm, interesse in etwas andere Arbeit?? Ich habe noch ungef. 45 grosse Weihnachtsbäume zu lieferen im Akad. Krankenhaus in Nimwegen. Schwere arbeit und viel laufen, Kunde suchen, laufen, laufen..... aber mit aussicht auf viele hübsche Damen. Also, aufwärmen geht einfach, ha! > > Das von Guericke-Experiment ist der 2. ISCC Beitrag von unserem Kölner Mit-Fan > Michael Schian (den wir iiiKölle!!! nennen, weil er gerne reichlich > Ausrufezeichen !!!! verwendet). Ich fand sein Modell sehr 'einfach' aber auch > sehr überraschend. Um hier das lugnet.loc mal wieder zu reaktivieren quatschen 48,50c42,44 Nah, off-topic?? Beim Lego (sicher in Deutschland) geht's immer um=20 bessere Modelle/sch=F6nere Anlage. Du un Jojo streiten um bessere=20 Witzen/sch=F6nere Deutschsprache... Nah, off-topic?? Beim Lego (sicher in Deutschland) geht's immer um bessere Modelle/schönere Anlage. Du un Jojo streiten um bessere Witzen/schönere Deutschsprache... 54,62c48,52 > wenigstens ein paar Brocken verstanden, falls Du wirklich alles mitgele= sen > hast. Vieles sind eben Scherze, die auf gemeinsame Erfahrungen aus 1000= steine > anspielen (z.B. sind alle Sachen aus/von iiiiK=F6lle!!!! immer besonder= s lang. > Egal ob Waggons, Z=FCge, Loks oder andere Modelle... Und wenn sich M=E4= nner drum > streiten, wer den L=E4ngsten hat Punkt Punkt Punkt. > wenigstens ein paar Brocken verstanden, falls Du wirklich alles mitgelesen > hast. Vieles sind eben Scherze, die auf gemeinsame Erfahrungen aus 1000steine > anspielen (z.B. sind alle Sachen aus/von iiiiKölle!!!! immer besonders lang. > Egal ob Waggons, Züge, Loks oder andere Modelle... Und wenn sich Männer drum > streiten, wer den Längsten hat Punkt Punkt Punkt. 66c56 Genau darum brauchen wir mehr Frauen im Legowelt! Sch=F6ne, runde=20 Genau darum brauchen wir mehr Frauen im Legowelt! Schöne, runde 69c59 Viel w=E4rme w=FCnscht dich Viel wärme wünscht dich 71d60
lugnet.loc.de:567 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 >=20 > 26,27c27,28 >=20 >>ja, ja, ich bin nat=FCrlich > >>ja, ja, ich bin natürlich 30c31 > Ich hoffe, Du hattest beim Lesen wenigstens Dein Vergn=FCgen :-) > Ich hoffe, Du hattest beim Lesen wenigstens Dein Vergnügen :-) 33,34c34,35 Ich bin zwar Hollander, aber mein Deutsch reicht.... f=FCrs mitlesen.=20 Diese Witze und 'Gegenwitze' die du und Ben zu eineinander schreiben=20 Ich bin zwar Hollander, aber mein Deutsch reicht.... fürs mitlesen. Diese Witze und 'Gegenwitze' die du und Ben zu eineinander schreiben 36,37c37 Es ist etwas anderes um mit zu machen. Daf=FCr muss Deutsch Heimatssprach= e=20 Es ist etwas anderes um mit zu machen. Dafür muss Deutsch Heimatssprache 41,43d40
lugnet.loc.de:582 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 32 Lines: 31 24c25 >=20 > 37c38 Im Juni 2003 organisieren wir (den 'Geldern-Leute' von De Bouwsteen)=20 Im Juni 2003 organisieren wir (den 'Geldern-Leute' von De Bouwsteen) 40c41,43 Hiermit m=F6chte ich gerne alle quatsch-redende anwesende Leute (und die = Hiermit möchte ich gerne alle quatsch-redende anwesende Leute (und die 2-4 mitlesende Lurker) einladen eine Deutsche Beitrage aus zu stellen! Schön wass? 42,46c45,46 2-4 mitlesende Lurker) einladen eine Deutsche Beitrage aus zu stellen!=20 Sch=F6n wass? Das Treffen ist in eine sehr sch=F6nes und riesiges Raum (mega=20 Studentenrestaurant), und da gibt's noch ungef. 30x50 m' frei f=FCr zB=20 Das Treffen ist in eine sehr schönes und riesiges Raum (mega Studentenrestaurant), und da gibt's noch ungef. 30x50 m' frei für zB 48,49c48,49 Jan-Albert und ich werden sicher eine ganze Strecke machen, aber wir=20 brauchen mehr, und sch=F6ner, und Ben's Gleise, und, und.... Jan-Albert und ich werden sicher eine ganze Strecke machen, aber wir brauchen mehr, und schöner, und Ben's Gleise, und, und.... 51c51 Ich bin Kontaktperson, ich arbeite (leider mehr Stunden als Ben) auf=20 Ich bin Kontaktperson, ich arbeite (leider mehr Stunden als Ben) auf 53d52
lugnet.loc.de:587 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 > Nun ist mir Ren=E9, der alte Lurker, doch noch zuvorgekommen! :-) > Nun ist mir René, der alte Lurker, doch noch zuvorgekommen! :-) 24,25c25,26 Beim Lugnet ist keine Wortsperre f=FCr Deutsch, aber der Ren=E9 hat ein scanprogramm f=FCrs ganze System. Beim Lugnet ist keine Wortsperre für Deutsch, aber der René hat ein scanprogramm fürs ganze System. 29,31c30,32 =2E.. =2E.. =2E..[klein Pause] ... ... ...[klein Pause] 33,34c34,35 Das wird wass im n=E4chstem Jahr, wann wir so weiter gehen... Entsch=FCldigung Ren=E9, ha! Das wird wass im nächstem Jahr, wann wir so weiter gehen... Entschüldigung René, ha! 36c37 Datum f=FCrs Treffen: wird bald festgestellt. Datum fürs Treffen: wird bald festgestellt. 40c41 >> Nimwegen. Hiermit m=F6chte ich gerne alle quatsch-redende anwesende >> Nimwegen. Hiermit möchte ich gerne alle quatsch-redende anwesende 42c43 >> Beitrage aus zu stellen! Sch=F6n wass? >> Beitrage aus zu stellen! Schön wass? 44c45 > Vielen Dank f=FCr die Einladung! Ich bin sicher, da=DF wir da was auf > Vielen Dank für die Einladung! Ich bin sicher, daß wir da was auf 47,49c48,49 Ich freue mich darauf, und h=E4tte eigentlich nichts anders erwartet. Nun noch den Ben. Wo bisst du? Wieder am Arbeit oder so etwas unwichtiges= ??? Ich freue mich darauf, und hätte eigentlich nichts anders erwartet. Nun noch den Ben. Wo bisst du? Wieder am Arbeit oder so etwas unwichtiges??? 52d51
lugnet.loc.de:624 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Danke, wir h=E4tten viel Spass beim bauen! Danke, wir hätten viel Spass beim bauen! 26,28c27,29 Tsja, ungef. 50% von meine 'Piraten-=FCbriges'.... ;-) =2E... Ich weiss, ich weiss, ein verr=FCckter Pirat. Frage mal an Ben. Tsja, ungef. 50% von meine 'Piraten-übriges'.... ;-) .... Ich weiss, ich weiss, ein verrückter Pirat. Frage mal an Ben. 32d32
lugnet.loc.de:626 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 > In 2003 gr=FCnden wir unseren ersten echten Club. > In 2003 gründen wir unseren ersten echten Club. 23c24 Ich hoffe (besser: ist notwendig!) dass du auch Niederl=E4nder als Ich hoffe (besser: ist notwendig!) dass du auch Niederländer als 26,27c27,28 > In 2004 sind sowohl Legoworld Dortmund als auch Legoworld G=F6ttingen > gr=F6=DFer als die Legoworld Zolle. > In 2004 sind sowohl Legoworld Dortmund als auch Legoworld Göttingen > größer als die Legoworld Zolle. 30c31 b] Ich habe 'Dortmund' und 'G=F6ttingen' gesucht auf eine Karte von die b] Ich habe 'Dortmund' und 'Göttingen' gesucht auf eine Karte von die 32c33 c] Du bisst wieder herzlich eingeladen f=FCr L.Zwolle 2003! Es ist jetzt c] Du bisst wieder herzlich eingeladen für L.Zwolle 2003! Es ist jetzt 37c38 > (Weil letztere ab 2003 ev. nur noch zweij=E4hrig stattfinden mag.) > (Weil letztere ab 2003 ev. nur noch zweijährig stattfinden mag.) 44d44
lugnet.loc.de:853 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 21 Lines: 18 22,26c23,25 =FCber 10 Tage gibt es n=E4mlich ein 'Legoworld 2002 After-Party' (bisst = du=20 =FCbr. eingeladen??) und dann k=F6nnen JA und ich Bouwsteen-Leute einlade= n=20 f=FCr unser Topshow. über 10 Tage gibt es nämlich ein 'Legoworld 2002 After-Party' (bisst du übr. eingeladen??) und dann können JA und ich Bouwsteen-Leute einladen für unser Topshow. 32,33c31 > I am looking forward to meet for Lego=AE-talk and display in Berlin / m= idsummer > I am looking forward to meet for Lego®-talk and display in Berlin / midsummer 35c33 >=20 > 37c35 >=20 > 39,40c37 >=20 >
lugnet.loc.de.hh.ham:5 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 40 Lines: 31 20,21c21 > = > 23,24c23 > = > 27c26 > aufgetaucht, daher die etwas sp=E4te Antwort. > aufgetaucht, daher die etwas späte Antwort. 29,30c28 > wie ich auf den LUGNET-Server poste. (F=FCr alle, die damit auch Proble= me > wie ich auf den LUGNET-Server poste. (Für alle, die damit auch Probleme 33,35c31,32 > und f=FCllt dort das Posting setup aus.) > = > und füllt dort das Posting setup aus.) > 37,40c34,35 > TRU die 2879/5948 "Treasure Raiders" auf 10 DM 'runtergesetzt sah, hat'= s > mich wieder voll gepackt. Das "Adventurers"-Thema gef=E4llt mir richtig= > TRU die 2879/5948 "Treasure Raiders" auf 10 DM 'runtergesetzt sah, hat's > mich wieder voll gepackt. Das "Adventurers"-Thema gefällt mir richtig 49,55c44,45 agierenden Robot zu bauen, der sich in einer "nat=FCrlichen" Umgebung zurecht finden kann. = Inzwischen habe ich eine Platform, die es mir erm=F6glicht mit, f=FCr Leg= o, hoher genauigkeit Koppelnavigation zu zu betreiben. = agierenden Robot zu bauen, der sich in einer "natürlichen" Umgebung zurecht finden kann. 56a47,48 Inzwischen habe ich eine Platform, die es mir ermöglicht mit, für Lego, hoher genauigkeit Koppelnavigation zu zu betreiben.
lugnet.loc.dk:16 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 23,24c24,25 > /loc/dk/oj/ =D8stjylland (=C5rhus, Randers, Vejle, Aalborg) > /loc/dk/sj/ S=F8nderjylland (S=F8nderborg, Billund, Esbjerg) > /loc/dk/oj/ Østjylland (Århus, Randers, Vejle, Aalborg) > /loc/dk/sj/ Sønderjylland (Sønderborg, Billund, Esbjerg) 26,29c27,29 > /loc/dk/sj/ Sj=E6lland og =F8erne (K=F8benhavn, Roskilde, = Nyk=F8bing) > [ /loc/dk/bo/ Bornholm (R=F8nne) ] >=20 > /loc/dk/sj/ Sjælland og øerne (København, Roskilde, Nykøbing) > [ /loc/dk/bo/ Bornholm (Rønne) ] > 42c42 would be interested in events in K=F8benhavn (Copenhagen). would be interested in events in København (Copenhagen). 47,48c47 /Lars (in =C5rhus) /Lars (in Århus)
lugnet.loc.fr:51 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 82 Lines: 74 20,21c21 > Je suis tout a fait d'accord avec toi en ce qui concerne le besoin de f= aire > Je suis tout a fait d'accord avec toi en ce qui concerne le besoin de faire 25c25 Lorsque je compare avec ce qui se passe de l'autre cote de la manche,=20 Lorsque je compare avec ce qui se passe de l'autre cote de la manche, 28,34c28,31 > Ce ne sont pas les legofans qui manquent, au contraire. Nous sommes nom= breux > =E0 "batailler" pour remporter les ench=E8res (sur ibazar puis sur ebay= ) et > completer nos collections respectives! (d'ailleurs je crois que nous av= ons > =E9t=E9 quelques fois en concurrence, n'est-ce pas Gael!) > Ce ne sont pas les legofans qui manquent, au contraire. Nous sommes nombreux > à "batailler" pour remporter les enchères (sur ibazar puis sur ebay) et > completer nos collections respectives! (d'ailleurs je crois que nous avons > été quelques fois en concurrence, n'est-ce pas Gael!) 37,39c34,36 C'est l'un des points important lorsque l'on ai dans une communaute,=20 on va peut etre eviter de faire monter les encheres inutilement ! Mon=20 pseudo sur ebay est simple gaelfrazier. Tous les membres lecteurs de=20 C'est l'un des points important lorsque l'on ai dans une communaute, on va peut etre eviter de faire monter les encheres inutilement ! Mon pseudo sur ebay est simple gaelfrazier. Tous les membres lecteurs de 42c39 > Toute ma bonne volont=E9 t'es d=E9j=E0 acquise! > Toute ma bonne volonté t'es déjà acquise! 45c42 Cool, il va aussi falloir en parler autour de nous pour ramener un=20 Cool, il va aussi falloir en parler autour de nous pour ramener un 51,57c48,54 Bonne question. Sur lugnet, il y a une page dans /loc/fr. Nous avons=20 la possibilite de modifier cette page pour qu'elle reflete nos=20 activites. Je pensais a mettre une 2nd page avec qui nous sommes, une=20 listes de meeting, eventuellement les "promos" en cours. Ici du cote=20 anglais, on se previens mutuellement lorsqu'un magasin a des soldes=20 importantes. La derniere fois j'ai achete 12 7144 a 50 FRF (desole ai=20 du mal avec les zeuros). J'ai ai revendu 9 a prix coutant lors d'une=20 Bonne question. Sur lugnet, il y a une page dans /loc/fr. Nous avons la possibilite de modifier cette page pour qu'elle reflete nos activites. Je pensais a mettre une 2nd page avec qui nous sommes, une listes de meeting, eventuellement les "promos" en cours. Ici du cote anglais, on se previens mutuellement lorsqu'un magasin a des soldes importantes. La derniere fois j'ai achete 12 7144 a 50 FRF (desole ai du mal avec les zeuros). J'ai ai revendu 9 a prix coutant lors d'une 60,62c57,58 > En ce qui me concerne, je suis membre lugnet depuis peu. C'est vrai que= ce > n'est pas cher pay=E9 pour les avantages que lugnet nous offre. > En ce qui me concerne, je suis membre lugnet depuis peu. C'est vrai que ce > n'est pas cher payé pour les avantages que lugnet nous offre. 67,69c63,64 > Il y a de nombreuses choses =E0 faire (d'ailleurs tout est =E0 faire). > Et pourquoi pas, un jour, une F=EAte de la Brique, quelque part en Fran= ce! > Il y a de nombreuses choses à faire (d'ailleurs tout est à faire). > Et pourquoi pas, un jour, une Fête de la Brique, quelque part en France! 72,74c67,69 Je suis pour ! Mon experience anglaise devrait pouvoir aider. Et qui=20 sait, bientot des rencontres internationales. Si la rencontre se fait=20 dans la region de Lyon, je ne vois pas pourquoi on ne peut pas avoir=20 Je suis pour ! Mon experience anglaise devrait pouvoir aider. Et qui sait, bientot des rencontres internationales. Si la rencontre se fait dans la region de Lyon, je ne vois pas pourquoi on ne peut pas avoir 77,78c72,73 > Au fait, j'ai 30 ans (aussi) et j'habite =E0 Lyon. Je suis un "classic = space fan". > Au fait, j'ai 30 ans (aussi) et j'habite à Lyon. Je suis un "classic space > fan". 81c76 Tout pareil :-), sauf pour Lyon. J'aime aussi les SW, trains (juste=20 Tout pareil :-), sauf pour Lyon. J'aime aussi les SW, trains (juste 84,85c79 > PS: le soleil du sud de la France ne fait pas plus de mal aux lego que = la > PS: le soleil du sud de la France ne fait pas plus de mal aux lego que la 89c83 Contrairement au croyance, il ne pleut pas plus qu'en "petite"=20 Contrairement au croyance, il ne pleut pas plus qu'en "petite" 92,94c86,87 =20 Ton message est un bon encouragement pour la suite. Y'en a d'autres qui l= isent Ton message est un bon encouragement pour la suite. Y'en a d'autres qui lisent 101,102d93
lugnet.loc.fr:57 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 57 Lines: 51 19,20c20 > Tout =E0 fait d'accord! Il est temps de regrouper les ch'tis Fran=E7ai= s > Tout à fait d'accord! Il est temps de regrouper les ch'tis Français 23,24c23,24 Quel plaisir de voir qu'en quelques jours ce forum se rempli de=20 messages. Nous ne sommes pas beaucoup pour le moment, mais ca va=20 Quel plaisir de voir qu'en quelques jours ce forum se rempli de messages. Nous ne sommes pas beaucoup pour le moment, mais ca va 27c27 Eventuellement, expliquer au gens comment lire le newsgroup (soit via=20 Eventuellement, expliquer au gens comment lire le newsgroup (soit via 33c33 LOL, moi j'ai le droit a des remarques parfois... "peut pas passer=20 LOL, moi j'ai le droit a des remarques parfois... "peut pas passer 37,40c37,38 > Je pense que Gael a raison de vouloir d'abord f=E9d=E9rer les bonnes vo= lont=E9s > sur Lugnet qui reste quand m=EAme une r=E9f=E9rence en mati=E8re de leg= o. > Je pense que Gael a raison de vouloir d'abord fédérer les bonnes volontés > sur Lugnet qui reste quand même une référence en matière de lego. 44c42 Mais y'a aussi http://www.peeron.com pour les listes de pieces=20 Mais y'a aussi http://www.peeron.com pour les listes de pieces 49,51c47,48 > Bien entendu, rien ne nous emp=EAche par la suite de cr=E9er nos propre= s groupes > selon nos affinit=E9s! > Bien entendu, rien ne nous empêche par la suite de créer nos propres groupes > selon nos affinités! 54c51 Tout a fait ! SPACE CLASSIC ;-) et Mindstorms voir coupler les deux=20 Tout a fait ! SPACE CLASSIC ;-) et Mindstorms voir coupler les deux 57,58c54 > Et puis, toutes les briques ne sont-elles pas compatibles? Alors, imito= ns > Et puis, toutes les briques ne sont-elles pas compatibles? Alors, imitons 66,68c62,63 > Un jour nous aurons nous aussi notre "F=EAte de la brique" ( Tant pis p= our les > ma=E7ons!!!!!!!) > Un jour nous aurons nous aussi notre "Fête de la brique" ( Tant pis pour les > maçons!!!!!!!) 70,71c65,66 J'ai participer a un sorte de "seminaire" a Legoland avec les Master=20 Builder, et beaucoup d'entres eux sont issues de graphic designing,=20 J'ai participer a un sorte de "seminaire" a Legoland avec les Master Builder, et beaucoup d'entres eux sont issues de graphic designing, 76d70
lugnet.loc.fr:94 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 53 Lines: 48 21,25c22,24 > J'ai enfin pu acc=E9der au minifig generator gr=E2ce =E0 toi et je t'en= remercie. > J'aurai aim=E9 qu'il y ait plus de choix, mais bon, apr=E8s tant d'atte= nte j'ai > du id=E9aliser... > J'ai enfin pu accéder au minifig generator grâce à toi et je t'en remercie. > J'aurai aimé qu'il y ait plus de choix, mais bon, après tant d'attente j'ai > du idéaliser... 35,39c34,36 > Par contre je vous recommande =E0 tous Harry's Flowers, un site qui vou= s > permettra d'envoyer des fleurs (lego et virtuelles bien s=FBr!) =E0 vos= amis > avec un message personnalis=E9! > Par contre je vous recommande à tous Harry's Flowers, un site qui vous > permettra d'envoyer des fleurs (lego et virtuelles bien sûr!) à vos amis > avec un message personnalisé! 45,47c42,43 > L'id=E9e de la carte de France me plait beaucoup mais je risque d'=EAtr= e juste > en briques, =E0 suivre donc! > L'idée de la carte de France me plait beaucoup mais je risque d'être juste > en briques, à suivre donc! 55c51 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D184 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=184 71,72c67 >=20 >
lugnet.loc.fr:140 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 28,32c29,33 >=20 > > et faire la pub du site Freelug (que j'ai d=E9j=E0 en plusieurs > > exemplaires en =E9tant abonn=E9 aux mailing-lists fran=E7aises), > > il perd tout son inter=EAt ... >=20 > > > et faire la pub du site Freelug (que j'ai déjà en plusieurs > > exemplaires en étant abonné aux mailing-lists françaises), > > il perd tout son interêt ... > 45c46 >=20 > 48c49 >=20 > 55c56 buts :=20 buts : 83c84 > > Mais bon, c'est mon avis et =E7a n'enl=E8ve rien au travail de > > Mais bon, c'est mon avis et ça n'enlève rien au travail de 85c86 >=20 > 103,104c104 BERGAMO Jean-Louis=09=09<jlb@freelug.org> BERGAMO Jean-Louis <jlb@freelug.org>
lugnet.loc.fr:154 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 30 Lines: 28 24,26c25,26 > Mon anglais n'est pas trop mauvais mais =E7a me ferait vraiment plaisir d= e > discuter avec les autres membres de la communaut=E9 lego francophone dans > Mon anglais n'est pas trop mauvais mais ça me ferait vraiment plaisir de > discuter avec les autres membres de la communauté lego francophone dans 35,37c35,36 > Une question pour Jean-Louis: j'ai chang=E9 d'adresse Email, comment effe= ctuer > la mise =E0 jour sur ton site? > Une question pour Jean-Louis: j'ai changé d'adresse Email, comment effectuer > la mise à jour sur ton site? 46,47c45,46 BERGAMO Jean-Louis=09=09<jlb@easynet.fr> Easynet France=09=09=09Administrateur Systemes BERGAMO Jean-Louis <jlb@easynet.fr> Easynet France Administrateur Systemes 50d48
lugnet.loc.fr:192 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 49 Lines: 46 23c24 coordonnees de ce channel, qu'ils me le demandent) pour discuter des=20 coordonnees de ce channel, qu'ils me le demandent) pour discuter des 49,52c50,53 BERGAMO Jean-Louis=09=09<jlb@freelug.org> =09=09http://www.freelug.org/ =09 FREnch Enthousiast LEGO User Group =09Site d'informations francophones sur les LEGO BERGAMO Jean-Louis <jlb@freelug.org> http://www.freelug.org/ FREnch Enthousiast LEGO User Group Site d'informations francophones sur les LEGO 56,57c57 Vous pouvez vous d=E9sabonner facilement de ce groupe, en envoyez un email = =E0 : Vous pouvez vous désabonner facilement de ce groupe, en envoyez un email à : 59c59 =20 61,64c61,62 L'utilisation du service Yahoo! Groupes est soumise =E0 l'acceptation des= =20 Conditions d'utilisation et de la Charte sur la vie priv=E9e, disponibles= =20 L'utilisation du service Yahoo! Groupes est soumise à l'acceptation des Conditions d'utilisation et de la Charte sur la vie privée, disponibles 67,71c65 =20
lugnet.loc.fr:212 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 72 Lines: 64 23,24c24 > >Je m'appelle Jean, j'ai 39 ans et je suis Li=E9geois, je viens de m'insc= rire > >Je m'appelle Jean, j'ai 39 ans et je suis Liégeois, je viens de m'inscrire 29,36c29,33 > >plus le plaisir de l'utiliser que tr=E8s rarement. Si je pouvais avoir u= n o=F9 > >plusieurs contacts en Fran=E7ais cela m'aiderai beaucoup. >=20 > Je pe=FBt seulement te sug=E9rer d'=E9crire une message sur lugnet.loc.fr= - l=E0 ils > ont un groupe assez actif, avec le fran=E7ais comme langue primaire. Les = gars > >plus le plaisir de l'utiliser que très rarement. Si je pouvais avoir un où > >plusieurs contacts en Français cela m'aiderai beaucoup. > > Je peût seulement te sugérer d'écrire une message sur lugnet.loc.fr - là ils > ont un groupe assez actif, avec le français comme langue primaire. Les gars 61,66c58,60 > >sur pieds une amicale, o=F9 un club d'amateurs de Lego, je ne croix pas = qu'il > >en existe une dans les environs de Li=E8ge, ou du moins, je n'en ais jam= ais > >entendu parler. Ce serai peut-=EAtre une bonne id=E9e, qu'en pensez-vous= ? > >sur pieds une amicale, où un club d'amateurs de Lego, je ne croix pas qu'il > >en existe une dans les environs de Liège, ou du moins, je n'en ais jamais > >entendu parler. Ce serai peut-être une bonne idée, qu'en pensez-vous? 71c65 :-))=20 :-)) 78,79c72 > (un portugais, qui =E0 peu plus de deux ans a mis une message tr=E9s pare= ille > (un portugais, qui à peu plus de deux ans a mis une message trés pareille 88,92c81,84 BERGAMO Jean-Louis=09=09<jlb@freelug.org> =09=09http://www.freelug.org/ =09 FREnch Enthousiast LEGO User Group =09Site d'informations francophones sur les LEGO BERGAMO Jean-Louis <jlb@freelug.org> http://www.freelug.org/ FREnch Enthousiast LEGO User Group Site d'informations francophones sur les LEGO
lugnet.loc.fr:259 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 37 23c24 qui recense les articles et les br=E8ves publi=E9s depuis 1 jours. qui recense les articles et les brèves publiés depuis 1 jours. 34,36c35,36 Ce programme permet de g=E9n=E9rer une page html contenant la liste des pi= =E8ces et des sets Lego que vous recherchez ou que vous proposez =E0 l'=E9change. Ce programme permet de générer une page html contenant la liste des pièces et des sets Lego que vous recherchez ou que vous proposez à l'échange. 38c38 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=3D65 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=65 43c43 NOUVELLES BR=C8VES NOUVELLES BRÈVES 50c50 Escher en briques LEGO.=20 Escher en briques LEGO. 52c52 qui sera le premier a trouver le truc ? (car il y a bien un truc).=20 qui sera le premier a trouver le truc ? (car il y a bien un truc). 56,60c56 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=3D4 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=4
lugnet.loc.fr:260 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 26 23c24 qui recense les articles et les br=E8ves publi=E9s depuis 1 jours. qui recense les articles et les brèves publiés depuis 1 jours. 36c37 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=3D47 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=47 41,47c42,43 Ce programme permet de g=E9n=E9rer une page html contenant la liste des pi= =E8ces et des sets Lego que vous recherchez ou que vous proposez =E0 l'=E9change. -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=3D65 Ce programme permet de générer une page html contenant la liste des pièces et des sets Lego que vous recherchez ou que vous proposez à l'échange. 48a45 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=65
lugnet.loc.fr:262 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 qui recense les articles et les br=E8ves publi=E9s depuis 1 jours. qui recense les articles et les brèves publiés depuis 1 jours. 26c27 NOUVELLES BR=C8VES NOUVELLES BRÈVES 33c34 l'association.=20 l'association. 38,42c39 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=3D5 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=5
lugnet.loc.fr:265 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 26 23c24 qui recense les articles et les br=E8ves publi=E9s depuis 1 jours. qui recense les articles et les brèves publiés depuis 1 jours. 34,36c35,36 Compte-rendu de la reunion du CA du 5 mai 2003, preparatoire a l'assembl=E9= e g=E9n=E9rale ordinaire de l'association. Compte-rendu de la reunion du CA du 5 mai 2003, preparatoire a l'assemblée générale ordinaire de l'association. 38c38 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=3D99 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=99 40c40 ** Assembl=E9e G=E9n=E9rale de FreeLUG ** ** Assemblée Générale de FreeLUG ** 43,47c43 Le 22 mai 2003 aura lieu la premiere assembl=E9e g=E9n=E9rale de FreeLUG. -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=3D98 Le 22 mai 2003 aura lieu la premiere assemblée générale de FreeLUG. 48a45 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=98
lugnet.loc.fr:267 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 53 Lines: 51 22c23 qui recense les articles et les br=E8ves publi=E9s depuis 1 jours. qui recense les articles et les brèves publiés depuis 1 jours. 33,34c34 Freelug participe =E0 sa seconde exposition dans la region Rhone-Alpes, les= 8 Freelug participe à sa seconde exposition dans la region Rhone-Alpes, les 8 37c37 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=3D96 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=96 42,44c42,43 Compte-rendu de la reunion du CA du 5 mai 2003, preparatoire a l'assembl=E9= e g=E9n=E9rale ordinaire de l'association. Compte-rendu de la reunion du CA du 5 mai 2003, preparatoire a l'assemblée générale ordinaire de l'association. 46c45 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=3D99 -> http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=99 51c50 NOUVELLES BR=C8VES NOUVELLES BRÈVES 54c53 * Brocantes et vide-greniers en Is=E8re * - 7 mai 2003 * Brocantes et vide-greniers en Isère * - 7 mai 2003 56c55 Une petite liste de brocantes et vide-greniers en Is=E8re =E0 : Une petite liste de brocantes et vide-greniers en Isère à : 64c63 Vizille le dimanche 23 ao=FBt. Vizille le dimanche 23 août. 68,71c67 Voila pour les is=E8rois. -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=3D6 Voila pour les isèrois. 72a69 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=6
lugnet.loc.fr:268 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 qui recense les articles et les br=E8ves publi=E9s depuis 1 jours. qui recense les articles et les brèves publiés depuis 1 jours. 26c27 NOUVELLES BR=C8VES NOUVELLES BRÈVES 37,39c38 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=3D7 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=7
lugnet.loc.fr:270 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 qui recense les articles et les br=E8ves publi=E9s depuis 1 jours. qui recense les articles et les brèves publiés depuis 1 jours. 25c26 NOUVELLES BR=C8VES NOUVELLES BRÈVES 39,41c40 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=3D8 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=8
lugnet.loc.fr:271 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 21 Lines: 19 22c23 qui recense les articles et les br=E8ves publi=E9s depuis 1 jours. qui recense les articles et les brèves publiés depuis 1 jours. 25c26 NOUVELLES BR=C8VES NOUVELLES BRÈVES 28c29 * Les testaments, vu par un passionn=E9 de LEGO * - 15 mai 2003 * Les testaments, vu par un passionné de LEGO * - 15 mai 2003 30,38c31,32 Le "Rev. Brendan Powell Smith" a d=E9cid=E9 il y a d=E9j=E0 plusieurs ann= =E9es de recreer les 2 testaments en cr=E9ant des sc=E9narios avec des briques LEGO. Le r=E9sultat est relativement stup=E9fiant. Les textes sont en anglois, ma= is la beaut=E9 des images permet de bien comprendre. -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=3D9 Le "Rev. Brendan Powell Smith" a décidé il y a déjà plusieurs années de recreer les 2 testaments en créant des scénarios avec des briques LEGO. 39a34,35 Le résultat est relativement stupéfiant. Les textes sont en anglois, mais la beauté des images permet de bien comprendre. 40a37 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=9
lugnet.loc.fr:272 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 qui recense les articles et les br=E8ves publi=E9s depuis 1 jours. qui recense les articles et les brèves publiés depuis 1 jours. 25c26 NOUVELLES BR=C8VES NOUVELLES BRÈVES 37,39c38 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=3D11 -> http://www.freelug.org/breve.php3?id_breve=11
lugnet.loc.it:2130 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 21 Lines: 17 24c25 "marco berti" <arcmberti@dinet.it> ha scritto nel messaggio = "marco berti" <arcmberti@dinet.it> ha scritto nel messaggio 27,35c28,33 >=20 > C'=E8 una vernice apposta per la gomma, esiste solo in tre colori = (almeno cos=EC > credo) nero, bianco e rosso arancio, =E8 quella usata per le = immatricolazioni > (lettere) dei gommoni. La trovi nei negozi di nautica, aderisce = perfettamente a > tutte le gomme incluso quelle con una buona % di silicone, non alla = gomma > > C'è una vernice apposta per la gomma, esiste solo in tre colori (almeno così > credo) nero, bianco e rosso arancio, è quella usata per le immatricolazioni > (lettere) dei gommoni. La trovi nei negozi di nautica, aderisce perfettamente > a > tutte le gomme incluso quelle con una buona % di silicone, non alla gomma 37,41c35,38 > tra l'altro essendo a base di neprene ha un grip fantastico, ottima = per fare la > fascia bianca attorno alla pedana; se mi ricordo bene =E8 per=F2 = piuttosto cara. >=20 > tra l'altro essendo a base di neprene ha un grip fantastico, ottima per fare > la > fascia bianca attorno alla pedana; se mi ricordo bene è però piuttosto cara. > 43d39
lugnet.loc.it:2394 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 "Paco Garofoli" <pacoga@tiscalinet.it> ha scritto nel messaggio = "Paco Garofoli" <pacoga@tiscalinet.it> ha scritto nel messaggio 27,36c28,36 Io penso non per molto ancora, anche perch=E8 a fine mese parte il nuovo = servizio Lego Direct, cio=E8 non si potr=E0 pi=F9 ordinare nulla dei = vecchi pezzi di ricambio. > Si pu=F2 andare a prendere materiale fino a quando non scappano ? Io sono andato perch=E8 ero in zona (Milano) ed ero curioso di vedere = dov'era la sede, ma =E8 pi=F9 efficiente ed economico farsi spedire a = casa il pacchettino. Considera che le spese di spedizione sono comprese = nel prezzo dei pezzi ordinati. Io penso non per molto ancora, anche perchè a fine mese parte il nuovo servizio Lego Direct, cioè non si potrà più ordinare nulla dei vecchi pezzi di ricambio. > Si può andare a prendere materiale fino a quando non scappano ? Io sono andato perchè ero in zona (Milano) ed ero curioso di vedere dov'era la sede, ma è più efficiente ed economico farsi spedire a casa il pacchettino. Considera che le spese di spedizione sono comprese nel prezzo dei pezzi ordinati. 42,49c42,48 Announcer: "This is the story of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, = perhaps the most remarkable, certainly the most successful book ever to = come out of the great publishing corporation of Ursa Minor. More popular = than the Celestial Home Care Omnibus, better selling than 53 More Things = to Do in Zero Gravity, and more controversial than Oolon Colluphid's = trilogy of philosophical blockbusters: Where God Went Wrong, Some More = of God's Greatest Mistakes, and Who Is This God Person, Anyway?" Announcer: "This is the story of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, perhaps the most remarkable, certainly the most successful book ever to come out of the great publishing corporation of Ursa Minor. More popular than the Celestial Home Care Omnibus, better selling than 53 More Things to Do in Zero Gravity, and more controversial than Oolon Colluphid's trilogy of philosophical blockbusters: Where God Went Wrong, Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes, and Who Is This God Person, Anyway?"
lugnet.loc.it:2418 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 21 Lines: 18 23c24 "Marco Beri" <marcob@equalis.it> ha scritto nel messaggio = "Marco Beri" <marcob@equalis.it> ha scritto nel messaggio 26,30c27,29 > >ruote/cingoli/ingranaggi disponibili. Ho preso quelli che "potevano = andare > >meglio, secondo me, senza fare prove", ma non sono sicuro che lo = saranno. >=20 > >ruote/cingoli/ingranaggi disponibili. Ho preso quelli che "potevano andare > >meglio, secondo me, senza fare prove", ma non sono sicuro che lo saranno. > 34,36c33,34 Non ho fatto misure, ho semplicemente preso quello che mi sembrava = avessero pi=F9 gomma in appoggio. In pratica le ruote pi=F9 grandi e = grosse che ho trovato. :-) Non ho fatto misure, ho semplicemente preso quello che mi sembrava avessero più gomma in appoggio. In pratica le ruote più grandi e grosse che ho trovato. :-) 38,40c36,37 Non fidarti molto, per=F2, per ora non ho fatto molte prove "in = curva"... Magari sta talmente attaccato che poi non riesco a farlo = girare... :-))) Non fidarti molto, però, per ora non ho fatto molte prove "in curva"... Magari sta talmente attaccato che poi non riesco a farlo girare... :-))) 44d40
lugnet.loc.it:2420 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 "Carlo Ottolina" <kruntz@tiscalinet.it> ha scritto nel messaggio = "Carlo Ottolina" <kruntz@tiscalinet.it> ha scritto nel messaggio 25,28c26,28 > Magari sta talmente attaccato che poi non riesco a farlo girare... = :-))) >=20 > Perch=E8? Il tuo gira? > Magari sta talmente attaccato che poi non riesco a farlo girare... :-))) > > Perchè? Il tuo gira? 31,32d30
lugnet.loc.it:2440 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 "Guido Truffelli" <guy@aga.it> ha scritto nel messaggio = "Guido Truffelli" <guy@aga.it> ha scritto nel messaggio 25,26c26 > Un robot da 1.2 Kg e non posso esimermi da almeno un quinto della = rimanenza > Un robot da 1.2 Kg e non posso esimermi da almeno un quinto della rimanenza 29,30c29,30 Io porto i pezzi di un robot (o forse un robot intero se ho tempo per = metterlo insieme) e la pedana... ;-) Io porto i pezzi di un robot (o forse un robot intero se ho tempo per metterlo insieme) e la pedana... ;-) 32,33c32,33 La pedana non costa poco, ma non =E8 una cifra per cui il giro d'affari = di un qualunque LF possa impallidire... ;-))) La pedana non costa poco, ma non è una cifra per cui il giro d'affari di un qualunque LF possa impallidire... ;-))) 37d36
lugnet.loc.it:2689 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 22c23 "Axeman" <arrarraamici@tin.it> ha scritto nel messaggio = "Axeman" <arrarraamici@tin.it> ha scritto nel messaggio 25,26c26 > sull'implementazione di LNP in LegOS, veeeeeeeero Paolo ????? = 8-)))))) > sull'implementazione di LNP in LegOS, veeeeeeeero Paolo ????? 8-)))))) 31,33c31,33 Giusto oggi ho ricevuto 4 messaggi da Luis Villa e penso che per = smaltirli ci metter=F2 un paio di giorni (la versione 0.2.4 definitiva = di legOS dovrebbe presto vedere la luce...) :-) Giusto oggi ho ricevuto 4 messaggi da Luis Villa e penso che per smaltirli ci metterò un paio di giorni (la versione 0.2.4 definitiva di legOS dovrebbe presto vedere la luce...) :-) 39d38
lugnet.loc.it:2691 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 23 Lines: 20 22c23 "Axeman" <arrarraamici@tin.it> ha scritto nel messaggio = "Axeman" <arrarraamici@tin.it> ha scritto nel messaggio 24,27c25,26 > Piuttosto ... come la faccio la selezione di porta e slot sul firmware = del > PIC ?? Via Jumper o tramite sequenze IR trasmesse in protocollo = standard > Piuttosto ... come la faccio la selezione di porta e slot sul firmware del > PIC ?? Via Jumper o tramite sequenze IR trasmesse in protocollo standard 30,35c29,33 Io sono un po' contrario all'assegnazione cablata di un indirizzo e una = rete all'RCX che obbliga a ricompilare il kernel per cambiarlo, pensavo = di fare una piccola aggiunta al protocollo in modo che si possa cambiare = l'indirizzo dell'RCX via LNP (una specie di bootp/dhcp in scala = ridotta). In questo caso si potrebbe usare questa tecnica anche per i = moduli esterni... Io sono un po' contrario all'assegnazione cablata di un indirizzo e una rete all'RCX che obbliga a ricompilare il kernel per cambiarlo, pensavo di fare una piccola aggiunta al protocollo in modo che si possa cambiare l'indirizzo dell'RCX via LNP (una specie di bootp/dhcp in scala ridotta). In questo caso si potrebbe usare questa tecnica anche per i moduli esterni... 45d42
lugnet.loc.it:2700 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 43 Lines: 34 22c23 "Axeman" <arrarraamici@tin.it> ha scritto nel messaggio = "Axeman" <arrarraamici@tin.it> ha scritto nel messaggio 24,27c25,26 > >pensavo di fare una piccola aggiunta al protocollo in modo che si = possa > cambiare l'indirizzo >dell'RCX via LNP (una specie di bootp/dhcp in = scala > >pensavo di fare una piccola aggiunta al protocollo in modo che si possa > cambiare l'indirizzo >dell'RCX via LNP (una specie di bootp/dhcp in scala 30c29 >=20 > 33c32 Le cose bisogna progettarle sempre in grande, poi si realizzano con i = Le cose bisogna progettarle sempre in grande, poi si realizzano con i 36,41c35,37 > E in assenza del "server" dhcp? Comunque un modo di generare un = indirizzo > "pseudounivoco" senza la presenza di un server ci dovrebbe essere ... = Se no > ogni volta che facciamo le gare di sumo e vogliamo insultarci in LNP = ci > E in assenza del "server" dhcp? Comunque un modo di generare un indirizzo > "pseudounivoco" senza la presenza di un server ci dovrebbe essere ... Se no > ogni volta che facciamo le gare di sumo e vogliamo insultarci in LNP ci 44,50c40,43 Pensavo una cosa mooolto semplice del tipo: mando un messaggio all'RCX = con indirizzo 1 (magari un indirizzo particolare che viene preso = all'accensione da tutti gli RCX) e gli dico da ora in poi a che = indirizzo dovr=E0 rispondere. Gli altri o hanno gi=E0 un indirizzo = diverso (stesso meccanismo) o sono spenti... ;-))) > >OK, ho capito... Sono in ritardo... :-) Ma devo anche lavorare... = Pensavo una cosa mooolto semplice del tipo: mando un messaggio all'RCX con indirizzo 1 (magari un indirizzo particolare che viene preso all'accensione da tutti gli RCX) e gli dico da ora in poi a che indirizzo dovrà rispondere. Gli altri o hanno già un indirizzo diverso (stesso meccanismo) o sono spenti... 52,55d44 > Embeh ??? Te lo porti il portatile in ferie no ???? Vuoi dire che non = hai un > piccolo spazietto nella borsa per la torre e un paio di RCX ??? = 8-)))))))))) 57,58c46,51 Quello ce l'ho anche, ma se non gioco con i miei figli in vacanza, = quando lo faccio... ;-))) > >OK, ho capito... Sono in ritardo... :-) Ma devo anche lavorare... ;-))) > Embeh ??? Te lo porti il portatile in ferie no ???? Vuoi dire che non hai un > piccolo spazietto nella borsa per la torre e un paio di RCX ??? 8-)))))))))) Quello ce l'ho anche, ma se non gioco con i miei figli in vacanza, quando lo faccio... ;-))) 63,65c56 Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who = do. Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who do.
lugnet.loc.it:2703 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 37 Lines: 28 22c23 "Axeman" <arrarraamici@tin.it> ha scritto nel messaggio = "Axeman" <arrarraamici@tin.it> ha scritto nel messaggio 24,31c25,28 > Pensavo una cosa mooolto semplice del tipo: mando un messaggio all'RCX = con > indirizzo 1 (magari un indirizzo particolare che viene preso = all'accensione > da tutti gli RCX) e gli dico da ora in poi a che indirizzo dovr=E0 = rispondere. > Gli altri o hanno gi=E0 un indirizzo diverso (stesso meccanismo) o = sono > Pensavo una cosa mooolto semplice del tipo: mando un messaggio all'RCX con > indirizzo 1 (magari un indirizzo particolare che viene preso all'accensione > da tutti gli RCX) e gli dico da ora in poi a che indirizzo dovrà rispondere. > Gli altri o hanno già un indirizzo diverso (stesso meccanismo) o sono 33,35c30,31 >=20 > Si, ma a questo punto i comandi di assegnazione indirizzo li trasmetti = col > > Si, ma a questo punto i comandi di assegnazione indirizzo li trasmetti col 38,39c34 S=EC, magari su una porta speciale o con un brodcast, ancora non l'ho = studiato. Sì, magari su una porta speciale o con un brodcast, ancora non l'ho studiato. 41,42c36 > Stavo immaginando un bridge IR-radio e radio-IR per collegare vari = ambienti > Stavo immaginando un bridge IR-radio e radio-IR per collegare vari ambienti 45,46c39 :-) Carino!! Perch=E8 no... Cos=EC piloto l'RCX anche se =E8 gi=F9 in = cortile... ;-)))) :-) Carino!! Perchè no... Così piloto l'RCX anche se è giù in cortile... ;-)))) 48,49c41 > Ho capito che finiti i tuoi circuiti devo rimettermi a scrivere = firmware ... > Ho capito che finiti i tuoi circuiti devo rimettermi a scrivere firmware ... 52,53c44,45 A parte i miei circuitini (che come sai ormai sono in testa alle = priorit=E0)... ;-) Mi sa proprio che ti toccher=E0... ;-))) A parte i miei circuitini (che come sai ormai sono in testa alle priorità)... ;-) Mi sa proprio che ti toccherà... ;-))) 59d50
lugnet.loc.it:3001 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 22 Lines: 20 22,23c23 > Bentornato Paolo, adesso in ferie ci vado io, anche se per una = settimana > Bentornato Paolo, adesso in ferie ci vado io, anche se per una settimana 26c26 Come ti invidio... :-) Io ci torno per una settimana a fine settimana = Come ti invidio... :-) Io ci torno per una settimana a fine settimana 29,30c29 > Trovato niente di buono mentre eri via? Io spero proprio di trovare al = sud > Trovato niente di buono mentre eri via? Io spero proprio di trovare al sud 35,37c34,36 E basta, che poi non sai dove metterli tutti quei sets... ;-))) Lasciane = un po' anche a noi... ;-))) Dov'ero io mi hanno detto che era gi=E0 = passato "qualcuno" a ripulirli... Dove vai in ferie di solito???? ;-))) E basta, che poi non sai dove metterli tutti quei sets... ;-))) Lasciane un po' anche a noi... ;-))) Dov'ero io mi hanno detto che era già passato "qualcuno" a ripulirli... Dove vai in ferie di solito???? ;-))) 42,44c41,42 "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the = subject." - Winston Churchill "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." - Winston Churchill
lugnet.loc.it:3015 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 25 Lines: 22 31,32c32 > Dov'eri tu in ferie...? Cos=EC ti dico chi =E8 stato il "ripulitore" = :-) > Dov'eri tu in ferie...? Così ti dico chi è stato il "ripulitore" :-) 36,39c36,37 > E comunque io non ho un posto "solito". A parte la Valgardena che =E8 = una meta > fissa di ogni estate (avendo i miei una casa l=E0), io cambio sempre = luoghi. > E comunque io non ho un posto "solito". A parte la Valgardena che è una meta > fissa di ogni estate (avendo i miei una casa là), io cambio sempre luoghi. 41c39 Ach, non c'=E8 speranza di passarla liscia... ;-))) Ach, non c'è speranza di passarla liscia... ;-))) 47d44
lugnet.loc.it:3046 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 21c22 Ma questa pagina =E8 aggiornata? Ma questa pagina è aggiornata? 25,26c26 Mi sembra che sia ancora uguale a come era stata pubblicata la prima = volta... Mi sembra che sia ancora uguale a come era stata pubblicata la prima volta... 28,29c28,29 Non =E8 meglio cercare una soluzione pi=F9 flessibile? Se c'=E8 bisogno = di ospitare qualche script posso offrire spazio Web... Non è meglio cercare una soluzione più flessibile? Se c'è bisogno di ospitare qualche script posso offrire spazio Web... 31c31 So che Sergio =E8 un grande programmatore HTML... ;-) So che Sergio è un grande programmatore HTML... ;-) 37d36
lugnet.loc.it:3047 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 13 Lines: 11 22,25c23,24 > Il 1=B0 Agosto vado in ferie :) tra l'altro non molto lontano da dove = stai tu > (vado a Forte dei Marmi, e anzi se vieni a fare un salto al mare passa = a > Il 1° Agosto vado in ferie :) tra l'altro non molto lontano da dove stai tu > (vado a Forte dei Marmi, e anzi se vieni a fare un salto al mare passa a 28,29c27,28 Ecco chi era il tizio di cui mi parlava il negoziante... Quello che lo = aveva gi=E0 "ripulito"... ;-))) Ecco chi era il tizio di cui mi parlava il negoziante... Quello che lo aveva già "ripulito"... ;-))) 35d33
lugnet.loc.it:3050 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 20 Lines: 18 25,26c26 S=EC, questo lo so, ma volevo cercare di "tradurre"... Non tutti = conoscono le ASP. Sì, questo lo so, ma volevo cercare di "tradurre"... Non tutti conoscono le ASP. 28,29c28 > .....ma TU .... proprio TU che conosci la mia fama di BOFH, daresti = diritti > .....ma TU .... proprio TU che conosci la mia fama di BOFH, daresti diritti 33,34c32,33 Esecuzione di script? S=EC, se la pubblicazione la faccio io e prima = controllo il sorgente... :-) Esecuzione di script? Sì, se la pubblicazione la faccio io e prima controllo il sorgente... :-) 42d40
lugnet.loc.it:3054 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26,27c27,28 Lato client puoi fare quello che ti pare... Sul server non installo = nessun UAO (unidentified axxeman object)... ;-))) Lato client puoi fare quello che ti pare... Sul server non installo nessun UAO (unidentified axxeman object)... ;-))) 32,34c33,34 Segal's Law: A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two = watches is never sure. Segal's Law: A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.
lugnet.loc.it:3153 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 21 Lines: 19 22,25c23,25 > Tutto considerato, se fai un calcolo veloce, la sfida robotica ha = occupato gran > parte del tempo della giornata del LegoFest (si vince qualcosa ad = usare 3 DEL > Tutto considerato, se fai un calcolo veloce, la sfida robotica ha occupato > gran > parte del tempo della giornata del LegoFest (si vince qualcosa ad usare 3 DEL 27,30c27,30 >=20 > Ci ritroveremmo a fare un LegoFest che sta nella mia pausa pranzo .... = 8-)))))) >=20 > > Ci ritroveremmo a fare un LegoFest che sta nella mia pausa pranzo .... > 8-)))))) > 33,34c33,34 Mi sa che dalle risposte degli altri sei nella minoranza, ma =E8 = un'osservazione che terremo in considerazione... ;-) Mi sa che dalle risposte degli altri sei nella minoranza, ma è un'osservazione che terremo in considerazione... ;-) 38,39c38 > P.S. E lancia ICQ quando ti colleghi .... se no come faccio a = lanciarti il > P.S. E lancia ICQ quando ti colleghi .... se no come faccio a lanciarti il 43d41
lugnet.loc.it:3154 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22,23c23,24 > Dai di la verit=E0 che vuoi sfoggiare la tua nuova flotta di = "gondolette" dei pirati ... > Dai di la verità che vuoi sfoggiare la tua nuova flotta di "gondolette" dei > pirati ... 26,27c27,28 :-)) No, davvero, questa idea mi era venuta gi=E0 pre-chiamata-allearmi = per i Lego-Pirati... :-)) No, davvero, questa idea mi era venuta già pre-chiamata-allearmi per i Lego-Pirati... 29,30c30,31 Non potr=F2 mai superare le vostre flotte, ma come promesso, porter=F2 = qualcosa... :-) Non potrò mai superare le vostre flotte, ma come promesso, porterò qualcosa... :-) 34,35c35,36 E' vero, ma a questo punto la scusa di aver avuto poco tempo a = disposizione non reggerebbe pi=F9... ;-) E' vero, ma a questo punto la scusa di aver avuto poco tempo a disposizione non reggerebbe più... ;-) 41d41
lugnet.loc.it:3724 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 34 Lines: 27 25,29c26,28 >=20 > La 6286 =E8 quel barcone dei pirati che mi hai dato gioved=EC scorso = per Paolo? > Ah beh, potevi anche aprirla, tanto poi ci hanno pensato i miei figli = che ci > > La 6286 è quel barcone dei pirati che mi hai dato giovedì scorso per Paolo? > Ah beh, potevi anche aprirla, tanto poi ci hanno pensato i miei figli che ci 31,36c30,32 > preoccuparti, non =E8 andato perso nessun pezzo importante, solo = qualcuno di > quelli piccolini che =E8 passato dal buco dello scarico. E un paio di = minifig > hanno le braccine spezzate. E le vele si sono un po' inzuppate di = bagno > preoccuparti, non è andato perso nessun pezzo importante, solo qualcuno di > quelli piccolini che è passato dal buco dello scarico. E un paio di minifig > hanno le braccine spezzate. E le vele si sono un po' inzuppate di bagno 38,41c34,35 > Poi gli ho detto "Adesso basta, che vanno persi troppi pezzi! = Piuttosto > giocate con l'Exploration Mars" (sempre tuo, naturalmente) e stavano = aprendo > Poi gli ho detto "Adesso basta, che vanno persi troppi pezzi! Piuttosto > giocate con l'Exploration Mars" (sempre tuo, naturalmente) e stavano aprendo 46c40 Mi fate venire un'infarto, se continuate cos=EC... Mi fate venire un'infarto, se continuate così... 48,49c42,43 Mi sa che =E8 meglio che vada a controllare di persona... ;-) Mario = quando ti trovo a casa? Mi sa che è meglio che vada a controllare di persona... ;-) Mario quando ti trovo a casa? 54,56c48,49 "Do not follow where the path my lead Go instead where there is no path = and leave a trail." - George Bernard Shaw "Do not follow where the path my lead Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." - George Bernard Shaw
lugnet.loc.it:3727 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 30 Lines: 25 22,23c23 > Tutti i giorni escluso il week-end. Per=F2 in queste sere sono = piuttosto > Tutti i giorni escluso il week-end. Però in queste sere sono piuttosto 28c28 Me la cavo in 5 minuti, se raccogli tutto in un sacco di quelli neri = Me la cavo in 5 minuti, se raccogli tutto in un sacco di quelli neri 31,32c31 > In compenso la prossima settimana sar=F2 "signorino", con la famiglia = in > In compenso la prossima settimana sarò "signorino", con la famiglia in 36,37c35,36 Wow, questa invece =E8 interessante... Escludiamo il 4/8 perch=E8 sono = gi=E0 impegnato, per=F2. :-) Wow, questa invece è interessante... Escludiamo il 4/8 perchè sono già impegnato, però. :-) 42,45c41,42 > fondazioni in cemento, svariati metri cubi di legname, infissi e = serramenti, > portico con veranda, scale, ecc. Solo di viti sono a quota 600. Per = fortuna > fondazioni in cemento, svariati metri cubi di legname, infissi e serramenti, > portico con veranda, scale, ecc. Solo di viti sono a quota 600. Per fortuna 47,48c44 > Per=F2 non avevo ancora pensato che per i prossimi LF pu=F2 anche = venire utile: > Però non avevo ancora pensato che per i prossimi LF può anche venire utile: 52d47
lugnet.loc.it:3876 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 22,23c23,24 > Molto volentieri. Possiamo mangiare una pizza qui a Campogalliano e = poi trasferirici a casa mia. > Molto volentieri. Possiamo mangiare una pizza qui a Campogalliano e poi > trasferirici a casa mia. 28,30c29,30 A proposito, non =E8 che ci siano in giro i CD che vi avevo lasciato = (penso a Giulio) da masterizzare? :-) Quelli con le istruzioni e i = cataloghi... ;-) A proposito, non è che ci siano in giro i CD che vi avevo lasciato (penso a Giulio) da masterizzare? :-) Quelli con le istruzioni e i cataloghi... ;-) 41d40
lugnet.loc.it:12015 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 185 Lines: 135 21,22c22 http://www.vanree.net/~kmeijaard/fotoalbum/legoworld_2002/tn/image32.jpg.= html http://www.vanree.net/~kmeijaard/fotoalbum/legoworld_2002/tn/image32.jpg.html 31,35c31,33 >=20 > Today the biggest (and greatest!) Lego Fest ever will find its end. I m= yself > had the chance to attend Legoword 2002 in Zwolle/Netherlands for 3 of t= he 5 > > Today the biggest (and greatest!) Lego Fest ever will find its end. I myself > had the chance to attend Legoword 2002 in Zwolle/Netherlands for 3 of the 5 37c35 >=20 > 39c37 >=20 > 41c39 >=20 > 43c41 >=20 > 45c43 >=20 > 47,50c45,46 > After getting out of bed in the middle of the night I was driving the 3= 90 km > westwards to the Ijsselhallen in Zwolle. I had packed my car the evenin= g > After getting out of bed in the middle of the night I was driving the 390 km > westwards to the Ijsselhallen in Zwolle. I had packed my car the evening 52,60c48,52 >=20 > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till m= embers > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the bigge= st > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I = only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from '= de > > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till members > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the biggest > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from 'de 62,68c54,57 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_m= ood.jpg >=20 > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all = my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is no= t so > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_mood.jpg > > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is not so 70,79c59,63 > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the= train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had = left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track= > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it = when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates wit= h > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates with 81c65 >=20 > 83c67 >=20 > 85,87c69,70 >=20 > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from= the > > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from the 89,91c72,73 >=20 > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. m= ade by > > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. made by 93,95c75,76 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.j= pg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.jpg > 98,106c79,83 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_wor= ld.jpg >=20 > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably = most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big c= rowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms c= ontrol > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_world.jpg > > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big crowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms control 108,110c85,86 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_stat= ion.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_station.jpg > 112,114c88,89 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_schoo= l.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_school.jpg > 117c92 >=20 > 119,121c94,95 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jp= g >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jpg > 123,125c97,98 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts= =2Ejpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts.jpg > 128,132c101,103 >=20 > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving= in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the = signal > > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the signal 134,135c105 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_br= uecke.j > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_bruecke.j 137,139c107,108 >=20 > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending liv= e from > > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending live from 141,143c110,111 >=20 > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables= with > > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables with 145,153c113,117 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.= jpg >=20 > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements lik= e > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show= and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fa= st > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.jpg > > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements like > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fast 155,163c119,123 >=20 > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were all= owed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could sl= ide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30=B0= angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked real= ly > > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were allowed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could slide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30° angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked really 166,172c126,129 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun= =2Ejpg >=20 > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a ne= arly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very ope= n > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun.jpg > > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a nearly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very open 174c131 >=20 > 176c133 >=20 > 178,182c135,137 >=20 > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwstee= n' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Leg= o > > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwsteen' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Lego 184,193c139,144 >=20 > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the p= eople > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted a= nd I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink = support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep..= =2E. >=20 > > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the people > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted and I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep.... > 195c146 >=20 > 198c149 >=20 > 200c151 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D27260 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=27260 203,204c154 >=20 >
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lugnet.loc.nl:462 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 74 Lines: 62 22,23c23 Misschien dat iemand ze dan op het internet kan plaatsen? Ik heb (nog) = geen Misschien dat iemand ze dan op het internet kan plaatsen? Ik heb (nog) geen 47,48c47 > Laatst heb ik al mijn Lego-spullen anders opgeruimd en toen kwam ik = een > Laatst heb ik al mijn Lego-spullen anders opgeruimd en toen kwam ik een 50,51c49 > Legokranten tegen. Ik weet nog dat ik die vroeger (...) altijd ging = halen. > Legokranten tegen. Ik weet nog dat ik die vroeger (...) altijd ging halen. 53,54c51 Aaahh! Nostalgie! Telkens zeuren bij het personeel "of de nieuwe LEGO = krant Aaahh! Nostalgie! Telkens zeuren bij het personeel "of de nieuwe LEGO krant 57,58c54 > E=E9n ding heb ik altijd wat raar gevonden. Mijn laatste nummer is 58 = en > Eén ding heb ik altijd wat raar gevonden. Mijn laatste nummer is 58 en 60,61c56 > kon ik ze nergens meer vinden. Zijn ze toen opgehouden? Of zijn er = nog > kon ik ze nergens meer vinden. Zijn ze toen opgehouden? Of zijn er nog 63,64c58 > nummers uitgekomen toen? Tevens: Wat is de eerste Legokrant geweest? = Mijn > nummers uitgekomen toen? Tevens: Wat is de eerste Legokrant geweest? Mijn 71,78c65,68 De oudste krant die ik heb is waar de 7740 op de voorkant staat = afgebeeld dus ik gok ergens begin jaren 80, er staat geen datum op. Op nummer 40 = staat wel een datum ("zomer 1988") en volgens mij verschenen deze kranten = elke 4 maanden dus 38 is ongeveer winter 1987 (dat klopt ook mooi met de = modellen De oudste krant die ik heb is waar de 7740 op de voorkant staat afgebeeld dus ik gok ergens begin jaren 80, er staat geen datum op. Op nummer 40 staat wel een datum ("zomer 1988") en volgens mij verschenen deze kranten elke 4 maanden dus 38 is ongeveer winter 1987 (dat klopt ook mooi met de modellen 81,82c71 Ik heb geen idee wanneer ze opgehouden zijn, in mijn herinnering waren = ze er Ik heb geen idee wanneer ze opgehouden zijn, in mijn herinnering waren ze er 93d81
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I had packed my car the evenin= g > After getting out of bed in the middle of the night I was driving the 390 km > westwards to the Ijsselhallen in Zwolle. I had packed my car the evening 52,60c48,52 >=20 > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till m= embers > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the bigge= st > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I = only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from '= de > > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till members > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the biggest > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from 'de 62,68c54,57 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_m= ood.jpg >=20 > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all = my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is no= t so > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_mood.jpg > > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is not so 70,79c59,63 > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the= train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had = left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track= > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it = when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates wit= h > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates with 81c65 >=20 > 83c67 >=20 > 85,87c69,70 >=20 > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from= the > > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from the 89,91c72,73 >=20 > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. m= ade by > > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. made by 93,95c75,76 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.j= pg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.jpg > 98,106c79,83 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_wor= ld.jpg >=20 > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably = most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big c= rowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms c= ontrol > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_world.jpg > > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big crowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms control 108,110c85,86 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_stat= ion.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_station.jpg > 112,114c88,89 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_schoo= l.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_school.jpg > 117c92 >=20 > 119,121c94,95 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jp= g >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jpg > 123,125c97,98 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts= =2Ejpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts.jpg > 128,132c101,103 >=20 > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving= in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the = signal > > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the signal 134,135c105 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_br= uecke.j > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_bruecke.j 137,139c107,108 >=20 > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending liv= e from > > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending live from 141,143c110,111 >=20 > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables= with > > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables with 145,153c113,117 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.= jpg >=20 > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements lik= e > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show= and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fa= st > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.jpg > > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements like > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fast 155,163c119,123 >=20 > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were all= owed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could sl= ide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30=B0= angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked real= ly > > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were allowed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could slide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30° angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked really 166,172c126,129 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun= =2Ejpg >=20 > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a ne= arly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very ope= n > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun.jpg > > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a nearly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very open 174c131 >=20 > 176c133 >=20 > 178,182c135,137 >=20 > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwstee= n' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Leg= o > > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwsteen' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Lego 184,193c139,144 >=20 > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the p= eople > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted a= nd I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink = support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep..= =2E. >=20 > > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the people > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted and I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep.... > 195c146 >=20 > 198c149 >=20 > 200c151 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D27260 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=27260 203,204c154 >=20 >
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lugnet.loc.nl:1593 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 47 Jaco zat niet in het groepje van deze fotoimpressies, maar fungeert hier = Lines: 42 20a20 Jaco zat niet in het groepje van deze fotoimpressies, maar fungeert hier 23c23 Overgens Jaco: dat vertaalprogramma is echt huilen, hoewel het met=20 Overgens Jaco: dat vertaalprogramma is echt huilen, hoewel het met 25,26c25 En d=E1t wordt weer veroorzaakt door het spannende Engels wat Thomas-de- = En dát wordt weer veroorzaakt door het spannende Engels wat Thomas-de- 29c28 Het meisje heet 'ik ben al bezet', is inderdaad bijzonder leuk en=20 Het meisje heet 'ik ben al bezet', is inderdaad bijzonder leuk en 38,40c37,38 > Heeee, wie ben jij? / wie is, het leuke meisje met rood haar in foto 2?= ?? >=20 > Heeee, wie ben jij? / wie is, het leuke meisje met rood haar in foto 2??? > 42c40 >=20 > 44c42 >=20 > 46c44 >=20 > 48c46 >=20 > 51,52c49 >>Het volgende bericht zat in een thread, maar ik wil het toch even eruit= >>Het volgende bericht zat in een thread, maar ik wil het toch even eruit 54,55c51 >>http://www.lego.com/eng/info/press/morepress.asp?RegionalSiteId=3D11&id= =3D699 >>http://www.lego.com/eng/info/press/morepress.asp?RegionalSiteId=11&id=699 63c59 >=20 > 65,66c61 >=20 >
lugnet.loc.pt:883 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 29 19c20 Nao tem muito tempo que comprei pela king.com.br/lego o set 8246 = Nao tem muito tempo que comprei pela king.com.br/lego o set 8246 22,28c23,27 Pela peeron = http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/inv/sets/8246-1?withpics=3Dyes o = inventario nos diz que ele vem com 5x correias brancas White Rubber Belt = Small. S=F3 que no meu set s=F3 vieram duas!!!! E vieram fora dos = plasticos que embalam as pelas, estavam soltas na caixa.. Ser=E1 que para o Brasil eles mandam com menos pe=E7as? A caixa do set = diz: Pela peeron http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/inv/sets/8246-1?withpics=yes o inventario nos diz que ele vem com 5x correias brancas White Rubber Belt Small. Só que no meu set só vieram duas!!!! E vieram fora dos plasticos que embalam as pelas, estavam soltas na caixa.. Será que para o Brasil eles mandam com menos peças? A caixa do set diz: 32,34c31,32 Nao encontrei nenhum logotipo da estrela, somente um selo do Inmetro e = outro selo dizendo que nao =E9 recomendavel para crian=E7as menores de 3 = anos Nao encontrei nenhum logotipo da estrela, somente um selo do Inmetro e outro selo dizendo que nao é recomendavel para crianças menores de 3 anos 36c34 Ou ser=E1 que o inventario esta errado na peeron? Ou será que o inventario esta errado na peeron?
lugnet.loc.pt:888 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 33 Lines: 31 21,23c22,24 O Pedro Silva, j=E1 falou de mim, mas decidi apresentar-me. O meu nome =E9 Nuno Lino sou de =C9vora e sempre gostei de Legos, foi o = meu brinquedo favorito quando era crian=E7a. O Pedro Silva, já falou de mim, mas decidi apresentar-me. O meu nome é Nuno Lino sou de Évora e sempre gostei de Legos, foi o meu brinquedo favorito quando era criança. 25,32c26,32 Andava por curiosidade h=E1 procura dos cat=E1logos de 1981 e 1982 da = Lego e descobri por acaso o site do PLUG. N=E3o sabia da exist=EAncia de = AFOL nem de comunidades organizadas.=20 J=E1 h=E1 cerca de 8 anos que n=E3o mexo em Legos. Depois de entrar em = contacto com o Pedro ele deu-me alguns link e descobri que sem ter feito = nada para isso tenho uma colec=E7=E3o porreira. Tenho sets que foram = lan=E7ados em 1980 at=E9 sets de 1995. Felizmente guardei tudo. A minhas = prefer=EAncias s=E3o a Cidade e os Comboios. Andava por curiosidade há procura dos catálogos de 1981 e 1982 da Lego e descobri por acaso o site do PLUG. Não sabia da existência de AFOL nem de comunidades organizadas. Já há cerca de 8 anos que não mexo em Legos. Depois de entrar em contacto com o Pedro ele deu-me alguns link e descobri que sem ter feito nada para isso tenho uma colecção porreira. Tenho sets que foram lançados em 1980 até sets de 1995. Felizmente guardei tudo. A minhas preferências são a Cidade e os Comboios. 34,39c34,38 Inscrevi-me tamb=E9m nesta lista de correio e tenho nos =FAltimos dias = vindo a acompanhar as mensagens. Segui com aten=E7=E3o as mensagens sobre os comboios. Em minha opini=E3o = dos comboios que se encontram em catalogo s=F3 o 4565 =E9 que tem = interesse, pois acho o 4561 muito juniorizado e sem parecen=E7as com a = realidade. Inscrevi-me também nesta lista de correio e tenho nos últimos dias vindo a acompanhar as mensagens. Segui com atenção as mensagens sobre os comboios. Em minha opinião dos comboios que se encontram em catalogo só o 4565 é que tem interesse, pois acho o 4561 muito juniorizado e sem parecenças com a realidade. 42c41 Nuno Lino=20 Nuno Lino
lugnet.loc.pt:919 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 18 Lines: 17 21,23c22,23 Alguem tem a buzina 9885 9v? (ja vi diferentes codigos para a mesma = pe=E7a). Se alguem tiver pode gravar um arquivo .wav pra mim e me = mandar? Alguem tem a buzina 9885 9v? (ja vi diferentes codigos para a mesma peça). Se alguem tiver pode gravar um arquivo .wav pra mim e me mandar?
lugnet.loc.se:7 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 >>> Nu =E4r vi tv=E5 >>> Nu är vi två 25c26 Oj, snart =E4r vi ett helt g=E4ng i sverige ;) Oj, snart är vi ett helt gäng i sverige ;) 27c28 Jag har f=F6resten k=F6pt Robotics Invention System, fick det ig=E5r.. =3D) Jag har föresten köpt Robotics Invention System, fick det igår.. =) 30d30
lugnet.loc.se:12 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 N=E5gon som har ett Robotics Invention System (RIS) f=F6rutom jag? Någon som har ett Robotics Invention System (RIS) förutom jag? 22d22
lugnet.loc.se:15 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 13 Lines: 10 21,27c22,25 Jag har ett RIS till salu om n=E5gon =E4r intresserad. Det =E4r uppackat och l=E4tt (syns inte) anv=E4nt, och alla delar finns kvar. Batterier och sladdar f=F6r at= t koppla in till Mac f=F6ljer med om intresse finns. Jag skulle vilja ha 2000 k= r inkl frakt f=F6r den. H=F6r av er om ni =E4r intresserade, det =E4r r=E4tt s=E5 brottom= . Jag har ett RIS till salu om någon är intresserad. Det är uppackat och lätt (syns inte) använt, och alla delar finns kvar. Batterier och sladdar för att koppla in till Mac följer med om intresse finns. Jag skulle vilja ha 2000 kr inkl frakt för den. Hör av er om ni är intresserade, det är rätt så brottom. 31,32c29 08-6632740 (jobbet, s=E5 fr=E5ga efter mig) 08-6632740 (jobbet, så fråga efter mig)
lugnet.loc.se:162 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Hej!=20 Hej! 21,28c22,29 Jag kan meddela att den lilla skara som f=F6ljer den h=E4r mailinglistan nu ut=F6kats med en person i form av mig. Jag f=E5r v=E4l b=F6rja med att presentera mig lite, antar jag. Jag heter Tommy, =E4r f=F6dd 79 och bor i Link=F6ping. Efter ett par =E5rs uppeh=E5ll i ut=F6vandet av min legohobby s=E5 blev abstinensen f=F6r sv=E5r f=F6r n=E5gra veckor sedan och jag k=E4nde mig tvungen att inte bara att ta fram mitt gamla lego utan ocks=E5 b=F6rja k=F6pa nytt. Jag kan meddela att den lilla skara som följer den här mailinglistan nu utökats med en person i form av mig. Jag får väl börja med att presentera mig lite, antar jag. Jag heter Tommy, är född 79 och bor i Linköping. Efter ett par års uppehåll i utövandet av min legohobby så blev abstinensen för svår för några veckor sedan och jag kände mig tvungen att inte bara att ta fram mitt gamla lego utan också börja köpa nytt. 35,39c36,40 (vad =E4r en minifig? ;-) Ca 180 Bland mina gamla papper hittar jag valresultatet fr=E5n 1991 d=E4r det framg=E5r att min legostad d=E5 hade 141 r=F6stber=E4ttigade. Till dessa kommer bl a det 15-tal barn som inte hade r=F6str=E4tt samt de 13 legogubbar som jag inf=F6rskaffat de senaste veckorna. (vad är en minifig? ;-) Ca 180 Bland mina gamla papper hittar jag valresultatet från 1991 där det framgår att min legostad då hade 141 röstberättigade. Till dessa kommer bl a det 15-tal barn som inte hade rösträtt samt de 13 legogubbar som jag införskaffat de senaste veckorna. 42c43 Vet ej Med utg=E5ng fr=E5n antalet gubbar s=E5 verkar ca Vet ej Med utgång från antalet gubbar så verkar ca 46,47c47,48 Finns p=E5 http://w1.132.telia.com/~u13206915/INDEX.htm men tyv=E4rr finns d=E4r inget lego (=E4n?). (H=F6r g=E4spningarna) Finns på http://w1.132.telia.com/~u13206915/INDEX.htm men tyvärr finns där inget lego (än?). (Hör gäspningarna) 49,50c50,51 F=F6rsta legoask: Gul traktor (byggbeskrivningen =E4r borta sedan l=E4nge s=E5 jag vet Första legoask: Gul traktor (byggbeskrivningen är borta sedan länge så jag vet 53,54c54,55 F=F6rsta ask jag skaffat som "vuxet barn": 3040 "Husask" (bra recension f=F6rresten, Tobias) Första ask jag skaffat som "vuxet barn": 3040 "Husask" (bra recension förresten, Tobias) 56,64c57,65 Legost=E4der: Redan i 6-=E5rs=E5ldern var mitt legoinnehav tillr=E4ckligt stort f=F6r att det skulle kunna kallas f=F6r en legostad. Detta kom att s=E5 sm=E5ningom bli staden "M=F6nster=E5s" (7-=E5ringar =E4r inte s=E5 orginella) huvudstad i lilleput-republiken med samma namn. N=E4r jag h=F6ll val 88 hade jag 96 legogubbar och min stad hade redan n=E5tt sitt ytm=E4ssiga maximum i form av tv=E5 skrivbord, mer fick inte plats i rummet. Staden kom nu att b=F6rja v=E4xa p=E5 h=F6jden. Legostäder: Redan i 6-årsåldern var mitt legoinnehav tillräckligt stort för att det skulle kunna kallas för en legostad. Detta kom att så småningom bli staden "Mönsterås" (7-åringar är inte så orginella) huvudstad i lilleput-republiken med samma namn. När jag höll val 88 hade jag 96 legogubbar och min stad hade redan nått sitt ytmässiga maximum i form av två skrivbord, mer fick inte plats i rummet. Staden kom nu att börja växa på höjden. 66,67c67,68 N=E4r jag b=F6rjade h=F6gstadiet kom staden att avvecklas, fr=E4mst pga det tryck jag hade p=E5 mig att ton=E5ringar inte "ska När jag började högstadiet kom staden att avvecklas, främst pga det tryck jag hade på mig att tonåringar inte "ska 70,72c71,73 N=E4r jag b=F6rjade gymnasiet s=E5 blev jag tillsammans med min flickv=E4n Cecilia. En helg vintern 96 s=E5 plockade vi fram hennes tv=E5 =E5r yngre brors lego och byggde "Lillstad", När jag började gymnasiet så blev jag tillsammans med min flickvän Cecilia. En helg vintern 96 så plockade vi fram hennes två år yngre brors lego och byggde "Lillstad", 74,77c75,78 =E5r kom dock min flickv=E4ns bror att bli mer intresserad av datorspel och Lillstad blev mer och mer inaktivt. =C4ven Cecilia kom att tappa intresset n=E5got, kanske pga av att stadens inv=E5nare sysslade i hennes tycke alltf=F6r mycket år kom dock min flickväns bror att bli mer intresserad av datorspel och Lillstad blev mer och mer inaktivt. Även Cecilia kom att tappa intresset något, kanske pga av att stadens invånare sysslade i hennes tycke alltför mycket 80,85c81,86 F=F6r sju veckor sedan b=F6rjade det k=E4nnas outh=E4rdligt att varken f=E5 bygga eller leka med lego och legohus b=F6rjade dyka upp i min garderob. N=E4r jag av "misstag" "r=E5kade" k=F6pa ett legot=E5g s=E5 blev det tr=E5ngt i garderoben och nu ockuperar jag det rum i l=E4genheten som blev tomt d=E5 min syster flyttade hemifr=E5n f=F6r ett par m=E5nader sedan. För sju veckor sedan började det kännas outhärdligt att varken få bygga eller leka med lego och legohus började dyka upp i min garderob. När jag av "misstag" "råkade" köpa ett legotåg så blev det trångt i garderoben och nu ockuperar jag det rum i lägenheten som blev tomt då min syster flyttade hemifrån för ett par månader sedan. 88c89 Presentationen blev visst lite l=E4ngre =E4n planerat... Presentationen blev visst lite längre än planerat... 102,103d102
lugnet.loc.se:174 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 16 Lines: 13 19c20 Den kostar 59kr p=E5 Sagoland i Link=F6ping... Den kostar 59kr på Sagoland i Linköping... 24,29c25,27 >Jag har dragit mig f=F6r att k=F6pa en till 3040, jag tyckte den var = "f=F6r dyr". >MEn n=E4r jag j=E4mf=F6rde priserna i katalogen, s=E5g jag att = "MC-transporten" >kostade 99. Vad f=E5r man i den? =D6h, tv=E5 gubbar, en MC, fyra hjul = och 40 >Jag har dragit mig för att köpa en till 3040, jag tyckte den var "för dyr". >MEn när jag jämförde priserna i katalogen, såg jag att "MC-transporten" >kostade 99. Vad får man i den? Öh, två gubbar, en MC, fyra hjul och 40 32c30 >3040 kostar 75 i katalogen. Jippie! Den =E4r *billig*! >3040 kostar 75 i katalogen. Jippie! Den är *billig*! 35d32
lugnet.loc.se:210 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 >Vi skulle kunna ha "nallen noffle" som v=E5r maskot :-) >Jag har en passande teddybj=F6rn, som g=E4rna agerar internet-modell. >Vi skulle kunna ha "nallen noffle" som vår maskot :-) >Jag har en passande teddybjörn, som gärna agerar internet-modell. 26d26
lugnet.loc.se:240 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 14 Lines: 13 25,27c26,27 Jag har redan letad n=E5gra g=E5nger den senaste m=E5naden, men inte hittad= n=E4sta =E5rs katalog =E4n. N=E4r kom den f=F6rra =E5ret? Jag har redan letad några gånger den senaste månaden, men inte hittad nästa års katalog än. När kom den förra året?
lugnet.loc.se:242 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 och m=E5 ni f=E5 m=E5nga paket med det v=E4lk=E4nda rasslande ljudet! och må ni få många paket med det välkända rasslande ljudet! 34,35d34
lugnet.loc.se:244 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 21 Lines: 15 25,32c26,29 Vet ni om det finns n=E5gon leksaksaff=E4r som har mellandagsrea? Min flickv=E4n =E4r ute och frossar i MR i kl=E4der, men p=E5 lego verkar det b= ara = vara n=E5gon rabatt p=E5 en tia eller s=E5 h=E4r och d=E4r. Eller har jag m= issat = n=E5got? (S=E4g att jag har det!) Vet ni om det finns någon leksaksaffär som har mellandagsrea? Min flickvän är ute och frossar i MR i kläder, men på lego verkar det bara vara någon rabatt på en tia eller så här och där. Eller har jag missat något? (Säg att jag har det!) 36,39c33,34 Johannes, som kommer fr=E5n ett universum l=E5ngt, l=E5ngt bort d=E4r det i= nte = finns n=E5gon mellandagsrea. Johannes, som kommer från ett universum långt, långt bort där det inte finns någon mellandagsrea.
lugnet.loc.se:255 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 13 Lines: 12 19,20c20 >Jag har r=E4knat ut att jag kan k=F6pa 333 3040 "Husask" f=F6r de = pengarna :-) >Jag har räknat ut att jag kan köpa 333 3040 "Husask" för de pengarna :-) 22c22 >Antagligen vinner jag ingenting, det brukar vara s=E5. >Antagligen vinner jag ingenting, det brukar vara så. 27,29c27,29 =C5k f=F6rsta klass t=E5g till Link=F6ping och Sagoland-butiken s=E5 kan du k=F6pta =F6ver 400 st. :) Suck! Min farsa k=F6pte bara hem tv=E5 flaskor julmust... Åk första klass tåg till Linköping och Sagoland-butiken så kan du köpta över 400 st. :) Suck! Min farsa köpte bara hem två flaskor julmust... 32,33d31
lugnet.loc.se:263 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 Lines: 18 Lines: 17 24c25 "TM" =3D=3D Tobias M=F6ller <tobias.moller@telia.com> writes: "TM" == Tobias Möller <tobias.moller@telia.com> writes: 26,27c27 TM> Nu har Arctic och Stad Jr. dykt upp i aff=E4rerna, men ingen aff=E4r ja= g var i TM> Nu har Arctic och Stad Jr. dykt upp i affärerna, men ingen affär jag var i 30c30 N=E5gra Technic 'Slammer' sets har ocks=E5 dykt upp. Och Battle Droid Några Technic 'Slammer' sets har också dykt upp. Och Battle Droid 32,33c32,33 Pit Droid och Destroyer Droid (som jag sitter och v=E4ntar p=E5). Och f=F6rresten har Stor och Liten h=F6jt priset p=E5 RIS till 2199. Pit Droid och Destroyer Droid (som jag sitter och väntar på). Och förresten har Stor och Liten höjt priset på RIS till 2199.
lugnet.loc.se:265 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 37 Lines: 34 19,20c20 >Nu har Arctic och Stad Jr. dykt upp i aff=E4rerna, men ingen aff=E4r = jag var i >Nu har Arctic och Stad Jr. dykt upp i affärerna, men ingen affär jag var i 24c24 Den nya katalogen finns upplagd p=E5 Lego Sveriges websidor. Den nya katalogen finns upplagd på Lego Sveriges websidor. 26c26 >Det verkar som att BASIC-askarna inte finns l=E4ngre. >Det verkar som att BASIC-askarna inte finns längre. 29,32c29,32 De ska finnas, det har nog bara varit h=E5rd =E5tg=E5ng p=E5 dem. Dock s=E5 presenteras inga nya basicaskar i den nya katalogen och =F6verhuvudtaget inte mycket av intresse. Bra och skapliga askar f=F6rsvinner och ers=E4tts med d=E5liga. :( De ska finnas, det har nog bara varit hård åtgång på dem. Dock så presenteras inga nya basicaskar i den nya katalogen och överhuvudtaget inte mycket av intresse. Bra och skapliga askar försvinner och ersätts med dåliga. :( 34c34 >De =E4r sluts=E5lda nu (efter jul) och inga nya finns. >De är slutsålda nu (efter jul) och inga nya finns. 36c36 >D=E4r r=F6k mina planer p=E5 att k=F6pa p=E5 mig lego :-( >Där rök mina planer på att köpa på mig lego :-( 39,40c39,40 Det b=E4sta kanske helt enkelt =E4r att annonsera efter begagnat lego. N=E5gon h=E4r som haft n=E5gon framg=E5ng p=E5 den fronten? Det bästa kanske helt enkelt är att annonsera efter begagnat lego. Någon här som haft någon framgång på den fronten? 42,45c42,43 >Jag kan bara hoppa tills 2000-katalogen kommer ut, men det verkar som = att >LEGO l=E4gger ner b=E5de stad och BASIC. Rymd =E4r ute ur bilden f=F6r = l=E4nge >Jag kan bara hoppa tills 2000-katalogen kommer ut, men det verkar som att >LEGO lägger ner både stad och BASIC. Rymd är ute ur bilden för länge 49,52c47,50 Som sagt var. Blir det inte =E4ndring snart s=E5 f=E5r man b=F6rja k=F6pa begagnat. Tycker dock att det faktum att aff=E4rerna h=E4r i stan damms=F6gs p=E5 basicaskar, skulle kunna leda till att legofolket tycker det verkar smart att producera n=E5gra Som sagt var. Blir det inte ändring snart så får man börja köpa begagnat. Tycker dock att det faktum att affärerna här i stan dammsögs på basicaskar, skulle kunna leda till att legofolket tycker det verkar smart att producera några 56d53
lugnet.loc.se:284 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 >Har ni sett ask 3040 n=E5gonstans? >Is=E5fall, var? Hur m=E5nga var det? Vad kostade de? >Har ni sett ask 3040 någonstans? >Isåfall, var? Hur många var det? Vad kostade de? 23,24c24,25 Det finns kvar av dem i de flesta Link=F6pingsaff=E4rerna. 59kr p=E5 Sagoland och sedan upp=E5t. Det finns kvar av dem i de flesta Linköpingsaffärerna. 59kr på Sagoland och sedan uppåt. 27d27
lugnet.loc.se:293 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 30 Lines: 24 25,43c26,38 Jag hittade nyligen nya Lego katalogen. (Stor och Liten p=E5 Kungsgatan i Stockholm.) Den s=E4ger att dem allra flesta nya sakerna som =E4r med kommer i januari, som t.ex. City Centre (st=E4mmer), Knights Kingdom (inte sett =E4n), Star Wars nyheterna (inte sett =E4n) och (f=F6r mig) viktigast, de nya Star Wars Technic Droiderna (inte sett =E4n heller). Vad =E4r det som har g=E5tt fel h=E4r? Varf=F6r har vi inte sett d= e h=E4r sakerna =E4n? = Och varf=F6r =E4r det inga nya stora Technic sets med? Det finns ju bilder = p=E5 dem p=E5 n=E4tet (Allts=E5 m=E5ste det vara sannt att de kommer det h= =E4r =E5ret? Nj=E4=E4, kanske.). Kan det vara s=E5 att det h=E4r bara handlar om= f=F6rsta halv=E5ret? (Varf=F6r st=E5r det d=E5 inget om detta i katalogen?)= Varf=F6r =E4r inte Millennium Falcon med? Och varf=F6r inte Ultimate Jag hittade nyligen nya Lego katalogen. (Stor och Liten på Kungsgatan i Stockholm.) Den säger att dem allra flesta nya sakerna som är med kommer i januari, som t.ex. City Centre (stämmer), Knights Kingdom (inte sett än), Star Wars nyheterna (inte sett än) och (för mig) viktigast, de nya Star Wars Technic Droiderna (inte sett än heller). Vad är det som har gått fel här? Varför har vi inte sett de här sakerna än? Och varför är det inga nya stora Technic sets med? Det finns ju bilder på dem på nätet (Alltså måste det vara sannt att de kommer det här året? Njää, kanske.). Kan det vara så att det här bara handlar om första halvåret? (Varför står det då inget om detta i katalogen?) Varför är inte Millennium Falcon med? Och varför inte Ultimate 46c41 Fullt av fr=E5gor, Fullt av frågor,
lugnet.loc.se:295 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 "TM" =3D=3D Tobias M=F6ller <tobias.moller@telia.com> writes: "TM" == Tobias Möller <tobias.moller@telia.com> writes: 26,27c27,28 TM> Det verkar tyv=E4rr som att Collectors Edition inte kommer till TM> Sverige (inte i =E5r iallafall). TM> Det verkar tyvärr som att Collectors Edition inte kommer till TM> Sverige (inte i år iallafall). 29,30c30,31 Var har du f=E5tt den informationen ifr=E5n? Har du ringt till Lego Sverige? Eller =E4r det f=F6r att den inte =E4r med i katalogen? Var har du fått den informationen ifrån? Har du ringt till Lego Sverige? Eller är det för att den inte är med i katalogen? 34c35 Johannes, som verkligen l=E4ngtar efter Collectors Edition SW. Johannes, som verkligen längtar efter Collectors Edition SW.
lugnet.loc.se:328 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Fotbollsaskarna har nu kommit till Link=F6ping. Fotbollsaskarna har nu kommit till Linköping. 23,25c24,26 De verkar f=F6lja trenden om st=F6rre och st=F6rre askar med mer och mer luft i... N=E5ja, tur att priserna h=E4r =E4r betydligt l=E4gre =E4n i katalogen. De verkar följa trenden om större och större askar med mer och mer luft i... Nåja, tur att priserna här är betydligt lägre än i katalogen. 28d28
lugnet.loc.se:331 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 25 19,43c20,42 Eric Hampusg=E5rd skrev: > Jupp, jag ilade och k=F6pte 3401 (b=E4telsm=E5l + prickskytt). > Prickskytten var helkool och likas=E5 prickm=E5len, fast sj=E4lva > plastm=E5let med m=E5lvakt verkar plastigt beige. M=E5let sitter > inte fast i n=E5got s=E5 i iverns hetta flyttar man inte bara =E5lvakten > utan =E4ven sj=E4lva m=E5let. :( Jag hittade allt p=E5 Toys'R'Us i l=F6rdags... I fredags inget (p=E5 Stor & Liten= , visserligen) - p=E5 l=F6rdagen fanns allt! K=F6pte 3402 (2 st), 3403, 3408 samt 3409 (sj=E4lva spelet), s=E5 nu har jag en sjyst fotbollsmatch med skaplig publik uppst=E4lld p=E5 ett Lack-bord h=E4r hemma. Funderar p=E5 att k=F6pa n=E5gra till=E4ggsset & s=E5, inte f=F6r att f=F6rstora sj=E4lva spelet, utan f=F6r att f=E5 st=F6rre "klackar"... T=E4nkte ordna lite derbyst=E4mning p=E5 l=E4ktarna, med slagsm=E5l, kravallpolis & annat. :) > Skapligt stora askar! Fast f=F6rv=E5nansv=E4rt tunna. Hoppas att > de inte hinner dra tillbaka alla set n=E4r fotboll-vm =E4r slut. EM =E4r det v=E4l =E4nd=E5? :) Jag hoppas att de ANDRA spelarbussarna ska hitta hit= . Just nu finns bara den vita. :/ Askarna =E4r lite v=E4l stora, ja. F=F6rutom det faktum att jag inte har plats f=F6r allt Lego, s=E5 har jag problem med att skapa utrymme f=F6r alla dj=E4kla kartonger! Eric Hampusgård skrev: > Jupp, jag ilade och köpte 3401 (bätelsmål + prickskytt). > Prickskytten var helkool och likaså prickmålen, fast själva > plastmålet med målvakt verkar plastigt beige. Målet sitter > inte fast i något så i iverns hetta flyttar man inte bara ålvakten > utan även själva målet. :( Jag hittade allt på Toys'R'Us i lördags... I fredags inget (på Stor & Liten, visserligen) - på lördagen fanns allt! Köpte 3402 (2 st), 3403, 3408 samt 3409 (själva spelet), så nu har jag en sjyst fotbollsmatch med skaplig publik uppställd på ett Lack-bord här hemma. Funderar på att köpa några tilläggsset & så, inte för att förstora själva spelet, utan för att få större "klackar"... Tänkte ordna lite derbystämning på läktarna, med slagsmål, kravallpolis & annat. :) > Skapligt stora askar! Fast förvånansvärt tunna. Hoppas att > de inte hinner dra tillbaka alla set när fotboll-vm är slut. EM är det väl ändå? :) Jag hoppas att de ANDRA spelarbussarna ska hitta hit. Just nu finns bara den vita. :/ Askarna är lite väl stora, ja. Förutom det faktum att jag inte har plats för allt Lego, så har jag problem med att skapa utrymme för alla djäkla kartonger! 46d44
lugnet.loc.se:332 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 13 Lines: 12 19,20c20,21 Toys'R'Us har extrapris p=E5 de senaste Star Wars-seten. Ganska bra priser, speciellt Flash Speeder f=F6r en hundring & Slave 1 f=F6r 190. Toys'R'Us har extrapris på de senaste Star Wars-seten. Ganska bra priser, speciellt Flash Speeder för en hundring & Slave 1 för 190. 22,29c23,29 & ett tips f=F6r fotbollen: Spelet =E4r dj=E4kligt ostadigt gjort, s=E5 det ramlar l=E4tt s=F6nder om man flyttar det. Jag testade med 2 gr=F6na basplattor, samt "klippta" 2x2 bitar fr=E5n basplattor f=F6r att stabilisera det. Fungerar hyfsat, men =E4nnu b=E4ttre =E4r att anv=E4nda vanliga bitar p=E5 alla skarvar undertill. Ska k=F6pa 4 eller 5 Flash Speeders till & anv=E4nda de gr=F6na delarn= a f=F6r det =E4ndam=E5let (& s=E5 kan man anv=E4nda delar av resten till att g=F6ra n=E5gra Gian Speeders ocks=E5 :). & ett tips för fotbollen: Spelet är djäkligt ostadigt gjort, så det ramlar lätt sönder om man flyttar det. Jag testade med 2 gröna basplattor, samt "klippta" 2x2 bitar från basplattor för att stabilisera det. Fungerar hyfsat, men ännu bättre är att använda vanliga bitar på alla skarvar undertill. Ska köpa 4 eller 5 Flash Speeders till & använda de gröna delarna för det ändamålet (& så kan man använda delar av resten till att göra några Gian Speeders också :). 32d31
lugnet.loc.se:369 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 > nedsatta med 130 kronor, 260+130=3D390, allts=E5 =E4r de v=E4ldigt billiga! > Har podracing-hinken kommit till Norge ocks=E5? > nedsatta med 130 kronor, 260+130=390, alltså är de väldigt billiga! > Har podracing-hinken kommit till Norge också? 23,24c24,25 Antar att detta var i butiken i F=E4lt=F6versten... Har n=E5gon sett dem n=E5gon annanstans? Jag var p=E5 Toys'R'Us i Barkaby idag, men d=E4r fanns den inte. Antar att detta var i butiken i Fältöversten... Har någon sett dem någon annanstans? Jag var på Toys'R'Us i Barkaby idag, men där fanns den inte. 26,27c27,28 Vet n=E5gon n=E5got om 7155 & 7184 f=F6rresten? Det var ju sagt att de skulle sl=E4ppas i juli i hela Europa f=F6rut, om jag f=F6rst=E5tt saken r=E4tt, men nu har Vet någon något om 7155 & 7184 förresten? Det var ju sagt att de skulle släppas i juli i hela Europa förut, om jag förstått saken rätt, men nu har 35d35
lugnet.loc.se:381 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 13 Lines: 12 19,20c20,21 Stor & Liten har total utf=F6rs=E4ljning pga ny =E4gare. 33% avdrag p=E5 alla k=F6p. (=C4ntligen ett Droid Developer Kit till vettigt pris...) Skynda & fynda. Stor & Liten har total utförsäljning pga ny ägare. 33% avdrag på alla köp. (Äntligen ett Droid Developer Kit till vettigt pris...) Skynda & fynda. 22,24c23,24 Sedan en fr=E5ga: Vet n=E5gon om de nya samlarfigurerna (fr=E4mst de fyra Star Wars seten, 3340-3343) finns p=E5 Legoland i Danmark? Finns UCS d=E4r? Andra ny= a Sedan en fråga: Vet någon om de nya samlarfigurerna (främst de fyra Star Wars seten, 3340-3343) finns på Legoland i Danmark? Finns UCS där? Andra nya 32d31
lugnet.loc.se:385 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 26 Lines: 24 19,21c20,21 > Priset p=E5 starwarsfigurerna =E4r DKK 30:- / ask. Jag k=F6pte 2 askar, vet int= e > om det =E4r tre figurer i alla askar, men i de > Priset på starwarsfigurerna är DKK 30:- / ask. Jag köpte 2 askar, vet inte > om det är tre figurer i alla askar, men i de 24c24 Cool... Blir nog en bunt av varje f=F6r det priset. Cool... Blir nog en bunt av varje för det priset. 26,27c26 Ringde faktiskt Legoland butiken... De sa att de hade ALLT nytt Star Wars..= . Ringde faktiskt Legoland butiken... De sa att de hade ALLT nytt Star Wars... 35,36c34,35 Den jag =E4r mest intresserad av =E4r OOM-9 (aka Commander Battle Droid), som jag hittills enbart har i "m=E5lat" tillst=E5nd... Den jag är mest intresserad av är OOM-9 (aka Commander Battle Droid), som jag hittills enbart har i "målat" tillstånd... 38c37 Nu v=E4ntar jag bara p=E5 Wedge Antilles, Lando, Greedo & de andra. Nu väntar jag bara på Wedge Antilles, Lando, Greedo & de andra. 45d43
lugnet.loc.se:391 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Ojojd=E5... :) Ojojdå... :) 21,24c22,25 Legoland var ju inte helt fel, speciellt inte med flickv=E4nnen som tills f=F6r typ 2 veckor sedan visat sig helt ointresserad av Lego. Miniland =E4r ju helt otroligt, det mesta =F6vriga lite v=E4l barnv=E4nligt (=E4ven om borgturen =E4r r=E4tt ball... gl=F6mde pl=E5ta den sista draken dock :/). Legoland var ju inte helt fel, speciellt inte med flickvännen som tills för typ 2 veckor sedan visat sig helt ointresserad av Lego. Miniland är ju helt otroligt, det mesta övriga lite väl barnvänligt (även om borgturen är rätt ball... glömde plåta den sista draken dock :/). 27,34c28,35 d=E4r nya-serien-som-man-skruvar-ihop, de hade 8257 Powerpuller (tror numret =E4r r=E4tt). Den sistn=E4mnda verkade helm=E4ktig, s=E5 den b=F6r nog Technic-folk titta n=E4rmare p=E5. De hade ocks=E5 allt nytt Star Wars-Lego UTOM Darkside Dev Kit... N=E5ja, att =E5ka hem med Millenium Falcon, MTT, AAT, ett knippe hero figures samt b=E5da UCS-modellerna var ju inte helt fel. :) Ska flytta om en vecka... V=E5gar man b=F6rja bygga...? där nya-serien-som-man-skruvar-ihop, de hade 8257 Powerpuller (tror numret är rätt). Den sistnämnda verkade helmäktig, så den bör nog Technic-folk titta närmare på. De hade också allt nytt Star Wars-Lego UTOM Darkside Dev Kit... Nåja, att åka hem med Millenium Falcon, MTT, AAT, ett knippe hero figures samt båda UCS-modellerna var ju inte helt fel. :) Ska flytta om en vecka... Vågar man börja bygga...? 41d41
lugnet.loc.se:404 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 19c20 Ok, inte k=F6p & s=E4lj... Men vafan... Ok, inte köp & sälj... Men vafan... 21,23c22,23 Jag har k=F6pt en ny, fast mindre l=E4genhet. Allt Lego f=E5r dessv=E4rre inte plat= s & d=E4rf=F6r t=E4nkte jag s=E4lja av en del. Jag har köpt en ny, fast mindre lägenhet. Allt Lego får dessvärre inte plats & därför tänkte jag sälja av en del. 35,37c35,37 Finns det intresse har jag m=F6jligen =E4ven vissa Star Wars Lego-modeller =F6ver... M=E5ste bara se lite hur mycket av allt jag faktiskt har plats med. Man vill ju inte direkt s=E4lja av... Finns det intresse har jag möjligen även vissa Star Wars Lego-modeller över... Måste bara se lite hur mycket av allt jag faktiskt har plats med. Man vill ju inte direkt sälja av... 39c39 =C4r n=E5gon sugen s=E5 maila. Är någon sugen så maila. 48d47
lugnet.loc.se:414 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 39 Lines: 33 21,23c22,24 > K=F6n..............................:Man > F=F6delse=E5r...................:79 > Hemvist.......................:Link=F6ping > Kön..............................:Man > Födelseår...................:79 > Hemvist.......................:Linköping 25,27c26 > = Websida.....................:http://w1.132.telia.com/~u13206915/INDEX.htm= > Websida.....................:http://w1.132.telia.com/~u13206915/INDEX.htm 29,30c28,29 > Barn........................: Tjorven, 8=E5r (fast hon =E4r adopterad och s=E5 =E4r hon katt ocks=E5 :) > Barn........................: Tjorven, 8år (fast hon är adopterad och så är hon katt också :) 33,34c32,33 > P=E5 Lugnet sedan.............:99 >=20 > På Lugnet sedan.............:99 > 36,37c35,36 > Antal o=F6ppnade modeller...........:0 (o=F6ppnade askar skulle inte klara sig l=E4nge med mig i n=E4rheten) > Antal oöppnade modeller...........:0 (oöppnade askar skulle inte klara sig länge med mig i närheten) 39,44c38,42 > Antal legobitar...............:>Tillr=E4ckligt m=E5nga f=F6r att inte = f=F6rs=F6ka r=E4kna. > Deltagit i LEGO-m=F6ten.......:Nej > Varit i Legoland............:Ja, f=F6r 10 =E5r sedan. >=20 > F=F6rsta LEGO-modell.............:625, gul traktor > Antal legobitar...............:>Tillräckligt många för att inte försöka räkna. > Deltagit i LEGO-möten.......:Nej > Varit i Legoland............:Ja, för 10 år sedan. > > Första LEGO-modell.............:625, gul traktor 46,47c44 > Favorit modell................:Det finns s=E5 m=E5nga... T=E5gen = fr=E5n 80-talet t.ex > Favorit modell................:Det finns så många... Tågen från 80-talet t.ex 49,51c46,47 Det finns s=E5 m=E5nga... Icker=F6tt taktegel och ickegr=F6na = f=F6nsterluckor =E4r trevliga. Det finns så många... Ickerött taktegel och ickegröna fönsterluckor är trevliga. 53c49 > Tema du g=E4rna vill se................:Stad! > Tema du gärna vill se................:Stad! 55,57c51,52 >=20 > Andre (ej-LEGO) interessen: Bridge, Diplomacy, Min flickv=E4n, min = katt > > Andre (ej-LEGO) interessen: Bridge, Diplomacy, Min flickvän, min katt 59,60d53
lugnet.loc.se:447 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 > Det verkar billigt, skall man sl=E5 till? > Det verkar billigt, skall man slå till? 21c22 F=F6r det priset ska man absolut sl=E5 till... För det priset ska man absolut slå till... 30d30
lugnet.loc.se:449 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 19,23c20,23 > Det finns 5 st. kvar h=E4r i Karlstad till det priset. > 8417 finns ocks=E5 till 159 kr. > Tror jag struntar i 7171 och sl=E5r till p=E5 8417 ist=E4llet. Dessa g=E5r f=F6r 40= $ > p=E5 eBay, s=E5 det verkar vara ett b=E4ttre k=F6p.(Om man skall s=E4lja vidare) > Det finns 5 st. kvar här i Karlstad till det priset. > 8417 finns också till 159 kr. > Tror jag struntar i 7171 och slår till på 8417 istället. Dessa går för 40$ > på eBay, så det verkar vara ett bättre köp.(Om man skall sälja vidare) 25c25 Ska man s=E4lja vidare s=E5 ja... Ska man sälja vidare så ja... 27,28c27,28 Men 7171 har en hel del r=E4tt bra & udda delar, s=E5 =E4ven om man inte bygger den (vilket =E4r kul), s=E5 f=E5r man mycket f=F6r pengarna. Men 7171 har en hel del rätt bra & udda delar, så även om man inte bygger den (vilket är kul), så får man mycket för pengarna. 35d34
lugnet.loc.se:498 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 25 19c20 Tobias M=F6ller wrote: Tobias Möller wrote: 21,39c22,38 > Var det "F=E6tter BR" som skulle ta =F6ver Stor och Liten? > Synd, p=E5 tv=E5 s=E4tt. > 1) "Stor och Liten" f=F6rsvinner ^-^ Idiotiskt av Faetter BR att slarva bort ett s=E5 oerh=F6rt starkt varum=E4rke bar= a f=F6r att ha en enhetlig varum=E4rkesportf=F6lj, =E4r det enda jag kan s=E4ga i egenskap av strategisk marknadsn=E5gonting... > 2) Jag var i en F=E6tter BR butik i Danmark en g=E5ng, och legot d=E4r var > *svindyrt*! Man kan ju tro att det =E4r billigare i Danmark, legots > hemland, men neeeej, det var kanske 25% dyrare =E4n i Sverige! Tror det beror mer p=E5 landets generella priss=E4ttning =E4n p=E5 butiksspecifika aspekter. Jag noterade ocks=E5 att Lego var dyrare i Danmark (p=E5 Legoland, speciellt). Om de s=E4tter priserna f=F6r h=F6gt i Sverige kommer de helt enkelt att f=F6rlora oerh=F6rt mycket aff=E4rer... S=E5 vad g=E4ller priss=E4ttning l=E4r vi int= e se n=E5gra specifika h=F6jningar. > Var det "Fætter BR" som skulle ta över Stor och Liten? > Synd, på två sätt. > 1) "Stor och Liten" försvinner ^-^ Idiotiskt av Faetter BR att slarva bort ett så oerhört starkt varumärke bara för att ha en enhetlig varumärkesportfölj, är det enda jag kan säga i egenskap av strategisk marknadsnågonting... > 2) Jag var i en Fætter BR butik i Danmark en gång, och legot där var > *svindyrt*! Man kan ju tro att det är billigare i Danmark, legots > hemland, men neeeej, det var kanske 25% dyrare än i Sverige! Tror det beror mer på landets generella prissättning än på butiksspecifika aspekter. Jag noterade också att Lego var dyrare i Danmark (på Legoland, speciellt). Om de sätter priserna för högt i Sverige kommer de helt enkelt att förlora oerhört mycket affärer... Så vad gäller prissättning lär vi inte se några specifika höjningar. 46d44
lugnet.loc.se:553 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Inte s=E5 dj=E4kla vass p=E5 polska, men =E4nd=E5... Inte så djäkla vass på polska, men ändå... 21,23c22,24 Var i Gdansk p=E5 l=E5ngweekend & hittade en massa Cobi (Lego-kopior) milit=E4rset! Ultracoolt med olivgr=F6na Legobitar... Ska f=F6rs=F6ka ordna bilder p=E5 de set jag k=F6pte. Var i Gdansk på långweekend & hittade en massa Cobi (Lego-kopior) militärset! Ultracoolt med olivgröna Legobitar... Ska försöka ordna bilder på de set jag köpte. 25c26 Hittade =E4ven, p=E5 b=E5ten hem=E5t, 4164 Mickey's Fire Engine, ett set jag inte Hittade även, på båten hemåt, 4164 Mickey's Fire Engine, ett set jag inte 33d33
lugnet.loc.se:601 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 > Standardfr=E5ga: =C4r de Lego-kompatibla? >=20 > Ser ut s=E5... http://www.cobi.com.pl/PRODUKTY/COBI/START_COBI.html > Standardfråga: Är de Lego-kompatibla? > > Ser ut så... http://www.cobi.com.pl/PRODUKTY/COBI/START_COBI.html 25c26 Det =E4r de. Inte direkt snygga, men r=E4tt roliga... Det är de. Inte direkt snygga, men rätt roliga... 27c28 Coolt med maskingev=E4r i Lego-storlek. Coolt med maskingevär i Lego-storlek. 34d34
lugnet.loc.se:617 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 47 Lines: 45 19c20 Tobias M=F6ller wrote: Tobias Möller wrote: 21,36c22,36 > Jag har kanske b=F6rjat k=E4na samma press som du (folk=F6l, brudar och moppar > ^-^) men alla i min klass vet om min hobby och det =E4r (s=E5 vitt jag vet) > bara en (en tjej f =F6) som irriterar sig p=E5 det, och s=E4ger att det beror > p=E5 att jag "=E4r os=E4ker p=E5 mig sj=E4lv och d=E4rf=F6r s=F6ker uppm=E4rksamhet genom > att bygga med lego". Naturligtvis har hon helt fel, om jag var "os=E4ker > p=E5 mig sj=E4lv" skulle jag visserligen s=E4kert s=F6ka uppm=E4rksamhet, men inte > genom att s=E4ga att jag bygger med lego (hon tror att jag inte ens g=F6r > det, utan bara s=E4ger det.). Jag har nog aldrig f=E5tt ta emot s=E5 mycket > gl=E5pord och h=E5n sen jag sade att jag byggde med lego. Heh... Inte sv=E5rt att gissa vem som =E4r os=E4ker av er tv=E5. :-) De flesta p=E5 min arbetsplats & av mina v=E4nner tycker bara att mitt intresse =E4r coolt. Vi =E4r dessutom n=E5gra som delar det. Det har smittat av sig numera= , s=E5 en god v=E4n har b=F6rjat standardisera sina 30-=E5rs-presenter: Star Wars > Jag har kanske börjat käna samma press som du (folköl, brudar och moppar > ^-^) men alla i min klass vet om min hobby och det är (så vitt jag vet) > bara en (en tjej f ö) som irriterar sig på det, och säger att det beror > på att jag "är osäker på mig själv och därför söker uppmärksamhet genom > att bygga med lego". Naturligtvis har hon helt fel, om jag var "osäker > på mig själv" skulle jag visserligen säkert söka uppmärksamhet, men inte > genom att säga att jag bygger med lego (hon tror att jag inte ens gör > det, utan bara säger det.). Jag har nog aldrig fått ta emot så mycket > glåpord och hån sen jag sade att jag byggde med lego. Heh... Inte svårt att gissa vem som är osäker av er två. :-) De flesta på min arbetsplats & av mina vänner tycker bara att mitt intresse är coolt. Vi är dessutom några som delar det. Det har smittat av sig numera, så en god vän har börjat standardisera sina 30-års-presenter: Star Wars 39,44c39,43 Os=E4kerheten fr=E5n andra som man ofta m=F6ter om man h=E5ller p=E5 med Lego (& som man ofta m=F6tte om man spelade datorspel tills f=F6r bara n=E5gra =E5r sedan) bero= r enbart p=E5 att folk =E4r s=E5 extremt upptagna med att f=F6rst verka vuxna & sedan vara det... Det som uppfattas som avvikande har vi m=E4nniskor sv=E5rt att acceptera, & vad =E4r v=E4l mer avvikande =E4n att agera "barnsligt" n=E4r man =E4r Osäkerheten från andra som man ofta möter om man håller på med Lego (& som man ofta mötte om man spelade datorspel tills för bara några år sedan) beror enbart på att folk är så extremt upptagna med att först verka vuxna & sedan vara det... Det som uppfattas som avvikande har vi människor svårt att acceptera, & vad är väl mer avvikande än att agera "barnsligt" när man är 47,56c46,55 Att agera barnsligt =E4r f=F6r =F6vrigt i mina =F6gon att inte acceptera andra som de =E4r, att se ned p=E5 dem f=F6r att de =E4r annorlunda samt att inte v=E5ga r=F6ra sig bortom de konventioner som samh=E4llet & man sj=E4lv st=E4ller upp. D=E4rmed inte sagt att det =E4r motsatsen, dvs vuxet eller moget, att bygga med Lego. Men det =E4r roligt. & livet g=E5r ut p=E5 att ha roligt... All den skepsis jag m=F6tt har sedermera tystnat. Mest f=F6r att folk, n=E4r de uts=E4tts f=F6r detta under tillr=E4ckligt l=E5ng tid, b=F6rjar inse att det nog =E4r r=E4tt s=E5 kul & kanske inte s=E5 "barnsligt" som de f=F6rst trodde. Att agera barnsligt är för övrigt i mina ögon att inte acceptera andra som de är, att se ned på dem för att de är annorlunda samt att inte våga röra sig bortom de konventioner som samhället & man själv ställer upp. Därmed inte sagt att det är motsatsen, dvs vuxet eller moget, att bygga med Lego. Men det är roligt. & livet går ut på att ha roligt... All den skepsis jag mött har sedermera tystnat. Mest för att folk, när de utsätts för detta under tillräckligt lång tid, börjar inse att det nog är rätt så kul & kanske inte så "barnsligt" som de först trodde. 58c57 Nu stirrar de tidigare skeptikerna avundsjukt p=E5 min UCS X-Wing (ingen Nu stirrar de tidigare skeptikerna avundsjukt på min UCS X-Wing (ingen 66d64
lugnet.loc.se:667 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 55 Lines: 51 21c22 > Sk=F6nt att h=F6ra att det inte bara =E4r jag som =E4r desperat behov av l=F6n. :) > Skönt att höra att det inte bara är jag som är desperat behov av lön. :) 26,28c27,28 utl=E5nad till polisen som plockade fingeravtryck p=E5 den eftersom n=E5gra elaka tjuvar t=E4nkte sno den n=E4r de gjorde inbrott hos mig. N=E5got att bygga har ja= g utlånad till polisen som plockade fingeravtryck på den eftersom några elaka tjuvar tänkte sno den när de gjorde inbrott hos mig. Något att bygga har jag 30c30 =20 33c33 Jag s=E5g allt det d=E4r p=E5 NK...! Jag såg allt det där på NK...! 35c35 > Sett denna animation p=E5 AT-AT:en?! > Sett denna animation på AT-AT:en?! 39,45c39,44 Nja... Jag tycker inte den verkar vara s=E5 dj=E4kla imponerande. DrDK k=F6pte ja= g f=F6r 670 kr p=E5 f d Stor & Liten, hade jag betalat mer =E4n s=E5 hade jag varit missn=F6jd - microscouten =E4r inte s=E4rskilt avancerad & byggupplevelsen var rent patetisk j=E4mf=F6rt med exempelvis UCS-modellerna. Delarna var inte s=E4rskilt inspirerande de heller... Fast DSDK verkar onekligen mer inspirerande (m=E5nga intressanta modeller att bygga). Nja... Jag tycker inte den verkar vara så djäkla imponerande. DrDK köpte jag för 670 kr på f d Stor & Liten, hade jag betalat mer än så hade jag varit missnöjd - microscouten är inte särskilt avancerad & byggupplevelsen var rent patetisk jämfört med exempelvis UCS-modellerna. Delarna var inte särskilt inspirerande de heller... Fast DSDK verkar onekligen mer inspirerande (många intressanta modeller att bygga). 47,48c46,47 > Vid en f=F6rsta anblick verkar inte PowerPullern inneh=E5lla s=E5 v=E4rst mycket > nyttig bitar, men man har ju blivit =F6verraskad f=F6rr, av Destroyer Droiden > Vid en första anblick verkar inte PowerPullern innehålla så värst mycket > nyttig bitar, men man har ju blivit överraskad förr, av Destroyer Droiden 51,52c50,51 Droidekan var ju den b=E4sta hittills! :-) Powerpullern kostar v=E4l mycket men kanske s=E5... Droidekan var ju den bästa hittills! :-) Powerpullern kostar väl mycket men kanske så... 56,57c55 > Myrorna* har hyggliga vinterjackor f=F6r runt hundralappen. Dra ner p=E5 f=E5f=E4= ngan > Myrorna* har hyggliga vinterjackor för runt hundralappen. Dra ner på fåfängan 59,62c57,59 >=20 >=20 > *Det g=E5r lika bra med UFF, Emmaus eller loppiset runt h=F6rnet. Gl=F6m inte a= tt > > > *Det går lika bra med UFF, Emmaus eller loppiset runt hörnet. Glöm inte att 65,67c62,64 Det blir nog ett mellanting... F=E5f=E4nga? Neeeej... Det =E4r klart man m=E5ste ha en kanadensisk arbetsjacka utformad f=F6r att bo i en grotta i Alaska n=E4r man glider runt p=E5 S=F6der... ;-) Det blir nog ett mellanting... Fåfänga? Neeeej... Det är klart man måste ha en kanadensisk arbetsjacka utformad för att bo i en grotta i Alaska när man glider runt på Söder... ;-) 74d70
lugnet.loc.se:686 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 > =C4r det bara Technic, Classic Space o StarWars fans h=E4r > Är det bara Technic, Classic Space o StarWars fans här 25,27c26,28 Pirat ligger l=E5ngt =F6ver ovanst=E5ende p=E5 min lista och 6289 f=E5r mig att b=F6rja dregla kraftigt, s=E5 jag skulle v=E4ldigt g=E4rna "ta hand" om en.=20 Pirat ligger långt över ovanstående på min lista och 6289 får mig att börja dregla kraftigt, så jag skulle väldigt gärna "ta hand" om en. 30d30
lugnet.loc.se:709 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Mums! Det d=E4r m=E5ste jag l=E4gga ett bud p=E5.=20 Mums! Det där måste jag lägga ett bud på. 23d23
lugnet.loc.se:728 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 106 Lines: 81 20c21 En legotr=E4ff tycker jag verkar j=E4ttekul!=20 En legoträff tycker jag verkar jättekul! 23,32c24,30 >=20 > NORDLUG-tr=E5den verkade somna in igen, ni kanske missade att jag = faktiskt > (n=E4stan) erbj=F6d mig att vara v=E4rd f=F6r en mindre = anv=E4ndartr=E4ff? >=20 > Som jag skrev d=E4r (mer eller mindre): >=20 > Jag kan t=E4nka mig att ta emot en mindre skara folk som vill = tr=E4ffas och > > NORDLUG-tråden verkade somna in igen, ni kanske missade att jag faktiskt > (nästan) erbjöd mig att vara värd för en mindre användarträff? > > Som jag skrev där (mer eller mindre): > > Jag kan tänka mig att ta emot en mindre skara folk som vill träffas och 34,71c32,59 >=20 > Men inte _f=F6re_ jul, kanske mellan ny=E5r och skolstart? Kom med = =E5sikter! 13-14 jan =E4r tomt i min kalender =E4n s=E5 l=E4nge, men jag planerar = inte s=E5 l=E5ngt i f=F6rv=E4g. > Jag bor i Eskilstuna, nyligen flyttat till ett lite st=F6rre hus, s=E5 = jag har > hyggligt stora utrymmen att vara p=E5 hemma (upp till 10-15 pers i = alla fall, > utan problem), och har fyra anv=E4ndbara sovplatser plus ett stort = golv att > stoppa in eventuella =F6vernattare p=E5.=20 Golv l=E5ter utm=E4rkt! > Tore i Katrineholm erbj=F6d ocks=E5 > =F6vernattningsplatser, s=E5 man kanske skulle satsa p=E5 en = l=F6rdag-s=F6ndag? >=20 > Min hustru har =F6verseende med mitt Lego-intresse, men hon =E4r inte > intresserad av att vara hush=E5llerska, s=E5 mat och st=E4dning ligger = p=E5 allas > v=E5r lott att fixa. >=20 > Jag har _inte_ plats att st=E4lla upp n=E5gon stor fin = Lego-j=E4rnv=E4g, och > eftersom Jenny (n=E4stan 2 =E5r) =E4r v=E4ldigt nyfiken/intresserad = s=E5 kan inte > n=E5gra prylar placeras p=E5 golvet :-) =C4sch d=E5. D=E5 f=E5r mina t=E5g stanna hemma d=E5. =20 > Om vi skall g=F6ra n=E5got av det h=E4r, tycker jag vi tar och = diskuterar f=F6ljande: >=20 > > Men inte _före_ jul, kanske mellan nyår och skolstart? Kom med åsikter! 13-14 jan är tomt i min kalender än så länge, men jag planerar inte så långt i förväg. > Jag bor i Eskilstuna, nyligen flyttat till ett lite större hus, så jag har > hyggligt stora utrymmen att vara på hemma (upp till 10-15 pers i alla fall, > utan problem), och har fyra användbara sovplatser plus ett stort golv att > stoppa in eventuella övernattare på. Golv låter utmärkt! > Tore i Katrineholm erbjöd också > övernattningsplatser, så man kanske skulle satsa på en lördag-söndag? > > Min hustru har överseende med mitt Lego-intresse, men hon är inte > intresserad av att vara hushållerska, så mat och städning ligger på allas > vår lott att fixa. > > Jag har _inte_ plats att ställa upp någon stor fin Lego-järnväg, och > eftersom Jenny (nästan 2 år) är väldigt nyfiken/intresserad så kan inte > några prylar placeras på golvet :-) Äsch då. Då får mina tåg stanna hemma då. > Om vi skall göra något av det här, tycker jag vi tar och diskuterar följande: > 73,75c61,62 >=20 > - tidpunkt, utstr=E4ckning i tiden. Spikas s=E5 fort som m=F6jligt = f=F6r att > > - tidpunkt, utsträckning i tiden. Spikas så fort som möjligt för att 77,86c64,70 >=20 > - syfte. Bara tr=E4ffas och prata/beundra? Bilda NORDLUG (el. dyl)? = Mera? Vi kan ju bilda NORDLUG/SWELUG bara f=F6r att kalla oss n=E5got och ge = sken av att vara organiserade, men n=E5got seri=F6st verkar bara jobbigt. :) =20 > - agenda. Skall n=E5gon organisera sm=E5 t=E4vlingar etc. eller skall = det mesta ge > > - syfte. Bara träffas och prata/beundra? Bilda NORDLUG (el. dyl)? Mera? Vi kan ju bilda NORDLUG/SWELUG bara för att kalla oss något och ge sken av att vara organiserade, men något seriöst verkar bara jobbigt. :) > - agenda. Skall någon organisera små tävlingar etc. eller skall det mesta ge 89,92c73,74 Det vore ju kul om folk tog med sig lite av sina modeller s=E5 att vi = har n=E5got att st=E5 och dregla =F6ver. Sedan kan vi ju ha omr=F6stningar = om snyggaste Det vore ju kul om folk tog med sig lite av sina modeller så att vi har något att stå och dregla över. Sedan kan vi ju ha omröstningar om snyggaste 95,102c77,81 N=E5gon mer =E4n jag som tycker det =E4r kul att lega med legoh=E4rar? = Man st=E4ller upp tv=E5 legoarm=E9er (typ riddarlego och liknande) plockar fram = t=E4rningarna och strider tills ena sidan =E4r utpl=E5nad. =20 > Jag =E4r ingen h=E4rdad partyfixare, s=E5 jag f=F6ruts=E4tter viss = aktivitet =E4ven i Någon mer än jag som tycker det är kul att lega med legohärar? Man ställer upp två legoarméer (typ riddarlego och liknande) plockar fram tärningarna och strider tills ena sidan är utplånad. > Jag är ingen härdad partyfixare, så jag förutsätter viss aktivitet även i 105,120c84,96 En av punkterna kan ju l=E4mpligen bli planeringen av tr=E4ff tv=E5 och = den stora legostad vi tillsammans ska bygga upp d=E5... =20 > F=F6rdelar med Eskilstuna som tr=E4ffort: >=20 > - jag bor h=E4r > - bilv=E4g finns Eric om du t=E4nker =E5ka upp med bil s=E5 sam=E5ker jag g=E4rna med = dig. > - t=E5gv=E4g finns (Stockholm, =D6rebro, Katrineholm, V=E4ster=E5s, = etc) > - p=E5 s=F6ndagar kl. 13.00 k=F6r Faktorimuseet ig=E5ng = =E5ngmaskinerna (riktiga, STORA!) En av punkterna kan ju lämpligen bli planeringen av träff två och den stora legostad vi tillsammans ska bygga upp då... > Fördelar med Eskilstuna som träffort: > > - jag bor här > - bilväg finns Eric om du tänker åka upp med bil så samåker jag gärna med dig. > - tågväg finns (Stockholm, Örebro, Katrineholm, Västerås, etc) > - på söndagar kl. 13.00 kör Faktorimuseet igång ångmaskinerna (riktiga, > STORA!) 122c98 =C5ngmaskin i lego vore coolt... Ångmaskin i lego vore coolt... 125,126c101 Link=F6ping Linköping
lugnet.loc.se:733 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Technic Destroyer Droid (8002) finns f=F6r 370 kr f=F6r alla som har v=E4garna f=F6rbi BR Leksaker i Gallerian (Sthlm). Bra pris f=F6r ett av de b=E4sta Star Technic Destroyer Droid (8002) finns för 370 kr för alla som har vägarna förbi BR Leksaker i Gallerian (Sthlm). Bra pris för ett av de bästa Star 28d28
lugnet.loc.se:738 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Tobias M=F6ller wrote: Tobias Möller wrote: 21,22c22,23 > Har du sett droid developer kit d=E4r ocks=E5? Kostar den runt 1000 eller > 500 d=E4r? > Har du sett droid developer kit där också? Kostar den runt 1000 eller > 500 där? 24,27c25,28 Den ligger p=E5 standardpriset. BR Leksaker =E4r dessv=E4rre ingen h=F6jdare. Priserna =E4r h=F6ga och utbudet =E4r r=E4tt d=E5ligt. Just nu finns i och f=F6r sig Silver Champion f=F6r typ 1600:-, men f=F6rutom den och Destroyer Droid fanns det inte direkt n=E5got att hurra f=F6r. Den ligger på standardpriset. BR Leksaker är dessvärre ingen höjdare. Priserna är höga och utbudet är rätt dåligt. Just nu finns i och för sig Silver Champion för typ 1600:-, men förutom den och Destroyer Droid fanns det inte direkt något att hurra för. 34d34
lugnet.loc.se:743 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 J=E4pp. Det =E4r den 1:a i dag och det inneb=E4r att det =E4r dags att unders=F6ka vad som d=F6ljer sig bakom lucka 1 i min 2250 Jäpp. Det är den 1:a i dag och det innebär att det är dags att undersöka vad som döljer sig bakom lucka 1 i min 2250 36,37d36
lugnet.loc.se:758 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 107 Lines: 105 20c21 Om inget of=F6rutsett intr=E4ffar s=E5 kommer jag. Om inget oförutsett inträffar så kommer jag. 25,34c26,35 >=20 > L=F6rdag-S=F6ndag 2001-01-13, 14 kommer vi att f=F6rs=F6ka tr=E4ffas > n=E5gra/m=E5nga Lego-fantaster hemma hos mig (Anders Isaksson) > h=E4r i Eskilstuna. >=20 > Eftersom det =E4r det f=F6rsta f=F6rs=F6ket, s=E5 vet jag inte s=E5 > mycket om varken hur m=E5nga intressenter det finns, eller > vad vi egentligen skall syssla med. Vi f=E5r koncentrera > oss p=E5 Lego-klossen, och dess kombinationsm=F6jligheter. >=20 > > Lördag-Söndag 2001-01-13, 14 kommer vi att försöka träffas > några/många Lego-fantaster hemma hos mig (Anders Isaksson) > här i Eskilstuna. > > Eftersom det är det första försöket, så vet jag inte så > mycket om varken hur många intressenter det finns, eller > vad vi egentligen skall syssla med. Vi får koncentrera > oss på Lego-klossen, och dess kombinationsmöjligheter. > 36,45c37,46 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Beundra modeller/id=E9er (jag har fler id=E9er =E4n modeller) >=20 > K=F6pa/byta/s=E4lja >=20 > Bygga. Observera att mina barn vakar =F6ver sitt eget Lego > som h=F6kar, s=E5 det =E4r b=E4st att ni har med er n=E5got att > bygga med, sj=E4lv har jag inte s=E5 mycket. >=20 > ================ > > Beundra modeller/idéer (jag har fler idéer än modeller) > > Köpa/byta/sälja > > Bygga. Observera att mina barn vakar över sitt eget Lego > som hökar, så det är bäst att ni har med er något att > bygga med, själv har jag inte så mycket. > 47,57c48,58 >=20 > Titta p=E5 TV (N=E4r det finns Lego!!??) >=20 > BrikWars. Jag har spelat lite med min =E4ldste son (13.5), > och han =E4r ganska pigg p=E5 det. >=20 > Prelimin=E4rt schema: > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > L=F6rdag 13/1 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Titta på TV (När det finns Lego!!??) > > BrikWars. Jag har spelat lite med min äldste son (13.5), > och han är ganska pigg på det. > > Preliminärt schema: > =================== > > Lördag 13/1 > =========== 59,60c60,61 > eventuella =F6verliggare. etc. > 11.00- Kaffe/Te/L=E4sk/Pepparkaka - 'formellare' > eventuella överliggare. etc. > 11.00- Kaffe/Te/Läsk/Pepparkaka - 'formellare' 62,65c63,66 >=20 > vilket os=F6kt g=E5r =F6ver i total anarki, Lego-snack, s=E5 > sm=E5ningom pizzah=E4mtning (el. dyl.). Om Folkesta nya > k=F6pcentrum fortfarande har billigt Lego =E5ker vi givetvis > > vilket osökt går över i total anarki, Lego-snack, så > småningom pizzahämtning (el. dyl.). Om Folkesta nya > köpcentrum fortfarande har billigt Lego åker vi givetvis 67,70c68,71 >=20 > S=F6ndag 14/1 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 06.30 V=E4ckning (nej d=E5, jag bara retas lite...) > > Söndag 14/1 > =========== > 06.30 Väckning (nej då, jag bara retas lite...) 73c74 > centralare delarna av staden, d=E4r Faktorimuseet > centralare delarna av staden, där Faktorimuseet 75,78c76,79 > livs levande fullskaliga =E5ngmaskiner > 13.00 =C5ngmaskinerna startas > ??.?? Vi g=E5r till n=E5gon restaurang och =E4ter lunch, > d=E4refter =E5tert=E5g hem till mig, och avrundning > livs levande fullskaliga ångmaskiner > 13.00 Ångmaskinerna startas > ??.?? Vi går till någon restaurang och äter lunch, > därefter återtåg hem till mig, och avrundning 80c81 >=20 > 82,89c83,90 > (11) och Jenny (2), och dessa s=E4kert kommer att vara n=E4rvarande > s=E5 begr=E4nsas m=F6jligheterna att sprida ut Lego hur som helst i > huset. Jag kommer att f=F6rs=F6ka l=E5na ihop lite bord i kyrkan (jag > sjunger i k=F6ren, s=E5 det skall nog g=E5), men vet inte alls hur > m=E5nga jag kan f=E5 ihop. >=20 > Det kan allts=E5 bli sv=E5rt att t.ex. bygga ihop en stor och > tjusig gemensam j=E4rnv=E4g (den tr=E4ffen f=E5r n=E5gon annan fixa), > (11) och Jenny (2), och dessa säkert kommer att vara närvarande > så begränsas möjligheterna att sprida ut Lego hur som helst i > huset. Jag kommer att försöka låna ihop lite bord i kyrkan (jag > sjunger i kören, så det skall nog gå), men vet inte alls hur > många jag kan få ihop. > > Det kan alltså bli svårt att t.ex. bygga ihop en stor och > tjusig gemensam järnväg (den träffen får någon annan fixa), 91c92 >=20 > 93,112c94,112 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Ingen sprit, ingen r=F6kning inomhus, hyfsat beteende mot om- > givningen etc. etc. B=E5de =F6vernattare och =F6vriga deltagare > hj=E4lper till med maten, st=E4dningen efter=E5t etc. >=20 > =D6vernattning: > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Jag kan erbjuda s=E4ngplats f=F6r 4-5 personer, och har golv > som r=E4cker f=F6r n=E5gra till. Tore E. i Katrineholm (45 minuter > fr=E5n E-tuna) har ocks=E5 erbjudit =F6vernattningsplats, s=E5 med > tanke p=E5 responsen under diskussionen borde det inte vara > n=E5got som helst problem. >=20 > L=E5ngv=E4ga g=E4ster kan givetvis f=E5 anl=E4nda redan p=E5 = fredagkv=E4llen > om det passar transporteringen b=E4ttre. >=20 > V=E4gbeskrivning skickar jag i privat e-post till dem som beh=F6ver > det, n=E4r det b=F6rjar bli dags. >=20 > ======= > Ingen sprit, ingen rökning inomhus, hyfsat beteende mot om- > givningen etc. etc. Både övernattare och övriga deltagare > hjälper till med maten, städningen efteråt etc. > > Övernattning: > ============= > Jag kan erbjuda sängplats för 4-5 personer, och har golv > som räcker för några till. Tore E. i Katrineholm (45 minuter > från E-tuna) har också erbjudit övernattningsplats, så med > tanke på responsen under diskussionen borde det inte vara > något som helst problem. > > Långväga gäster kan givetvis få anlända redan på fredagkvällen > om det passar transporteringen bättre. > > Vägbeskrivning skickar jag i privat e-post till dem som behöver > det, när det börjar bli dags. > 114,119c114,118 > =3D=3D=3D > Jag vore tacksam f=F6r s=E5 definitiva anm=E4lningar som m=F6jligt, > s=E5 snart som m=F6jligt, jag f=F6rbeh=E5ller mig r=E4tten att s=E4ga > 'Nu =E4r det fullt!' om det blir alltf=F6r m=E5nga som vill komma. > Har jag inte f=E5tt _n=E5gra_ anm=E4lningar f=F6re 2001-01-01 s=E5 = blir > === > Jag vore tacksam för så definitiva anmälningar som möjligt, > så snart som möjligt, jag förbehåller mig rätten att säga > 'Nu är det fullt!' om det blir alltför många som vill komma. > Har jag inte fått _några_ anmälningar före 2001-01-01 så blir 121,122c120,121 >=20 > (Puh, det blev l=E5ngt!) > > (Puh, det blev långt!) 127d125
lugnet.loc.se:765 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 33 Lines: 24 20,24c21,23 > Jod=E5, undertecknad har skaffat PayPal och vet att det fungerar f=F6r = att jag > =E4r > redan medlem i LUGNET. Om ni vill s=E5 kan jag f=F6rmedla ~en hundring = till > Jodå, undertecknad har skaffat PayPal och vet att det fungerar för att jag > är > redan medlem i LUGNET. Om ni vill så kan jag förmedla ~en hundring till 26,30c25,27 > jag vill inte ha n=E5got f=F6r besv=E4ret, bara tillbaka pengarna i = g=E4llande > v=E4xelkurs. > (PayPal tar 1.25% eller liknande f=F6r besv=E4ret) Maila mig s=E5 ska = jag samla > jag vill inte ha något för besväret, bara tillbaka pengarna i gällande > växelkurs. > (PayPal tar 1.25% eller liknande för besväret) Maila mig så ska jag samla 32c29 > och f=F6rmedla kosingen =E5 Toddvart > och förmedla kosingen å Toddvart 34,35c31 J=E4ttebussigt, d=E5 ska du f=E5 pengar av mig. L=E4mpligen samtidigt = som jag Jättebussigt, då ska du få pengar av mig. Lämpligen samtidigt som jag 38,40c34,35 =20 > N=E4r jag =E4nd=E5 =E4r inne p=E5 den h=E4r tr=E5den vill jag meddela = att jag planerar* > När jag ändå är inne på den här tråden vill jag meddela att jag planerar* 42,48c37,40 > n=E4rvara i E-tuna d=E5 det tilldrager sig. Jag tar med lite = julgranspynt som vi > kan dansa ut. Jag kommer att ta bilen fr=E5n Link=F6ping, s=E5 de som = vill =E5ka med > hela eller delar av v=E4gen f=E5r se till att boka plats, de som ska = =E5ka l=E4ngst > har f=F6rtur. > närvara i E-tuna då det tilldrager sig. Jag tar med lite julgranspynt som vi > kan dansa ut. Jag kommer att ta bilen från Linköping, så de som vill åka med > hela eller delar av vägen får se till att boka plats, de som ska åka längst > har förtur. 50c42 D=E5 bokar jag h=E4rmed plats fr=E5n Link=F6ping. Då bokar jag härmed plats från Linköping. 53d44
lugnet.loc.se:778 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 11 Lines: 9 20,22c21,22 > Jag minns vagt att i en J=F6nssonliganfilm anv=E4nde de sig av en LEGO > kreation i bl=E5tt som kunde vandra i trappor m.m.. Fr=E5gan =E4r = vilken av > Jag minns vagt att i en Jönssonliganfilm använde de sig av en LEGO > kreation i blått som kunde vandra i trappor m.m.. Frågan är vilken av 25,28c25,27 Jag har f=F6r mig att det =E4r "J=F6nssonligan och Dynamit-Harry" (eller n=E5got i den stilen) dvs den film d=E4r Harry var med f=F6r f=F6rsta = g=E5ngen. ("Vilken j=E4vla sm=E4ll det blev!") Jag har för mig att det är "Jönssonligan och Dynamit-Harry" (eller något i den stilen) dvs den film där Harry var med för första gången. ("Vilken jävla smäll det blev!") 31d29
lugnet.loc.se:792 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,19c19,20 Nu har Star Wars 2001-seten och Life on Mars dykt upp p=E5 Shop @ Home. Vad g=E4llde LoM var det enbart de mellanstora seten. =C5 andra sidan =E4r det v=E4l de Nu har Star Wars 2001-seten och Life on Mars dykt upp på Shop @ Home. Vad gällde LoM var det enbart de mellanstora seten. Å andra sidan är det väl de 22c23 T. (som best=E4llde en TIE Fighter och en Shuttle) T. (som beställde en TIE Fighter och en Shuttle) 27d27
lugnet.loc.se:804 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 > Jag gjorde en _liten_ inventering p=E5 nya k=F6pcentret n=E4r jag var d=E4r ig=E5r: > Jag gjorde en _liten_ inventering på nya köpcentret när jag var där igår: 25,26c26,27 Dj=E4kligt bra utbud var det i alla fall. Har inte kunnat hitta skytteln i Stockholm =E4n (men har ju best=E4llt den). Djäkligt bra utbud var det i alla fall. Har inte kunnat hitta skytteln i Stockholm än (men har ju beställt den). 28,30c29,31 Dock har alla SW 2001 set f=F6rutom Technic och skytteln dykt upp p=E5 BR Leksaker i Gallerian. =C4ven om jag snodde =E5t mig det sista exet av Droid carriern.=20 Dock har alla SW 2001 set förutom Technic och skytteln dykt upp på BR Leksaker i Gallerian. Även om jag snodde åt mig det sista exet av Droid carriern. 32,33c33,34 LoM har ocks=E5 dykt upp. p=E5 BR fanns alla set upp till ca 550. P=E5 NK fanns triken (7312) f=F6r 69:-, vilket =E4r halva priset. Uppenbarligen felm=E4rkt. LoM har också dykt upp. på BR fanns alla set upp till ca 550. På NK fanns triken (7312) för 69:-, vilket är halva priset. Uppenbarligen felmärkt. 36,38c37,39 Och nu n=E4r jag =E4ger ett g=E4ng LoM-set kan jag bara inst=E4mma i det jag h=F6rt andra s=E4ga p=E5 LUGNET - detta =E4r det coolaste/b=E4sta temat i =E5r, om inte p=E5 bra l=E4nge. Och nu när jag äger ett gäng LoM-set kan jag bara instämma i det jag hört andra säga på LUGNET - detta är det coolaste/bästa temat i år, om inte på bra länge. 45d45
lugnet.loc.se:822 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 44 Lines: 28 20c21 Hej och hall=E5 alla! Hej och hallå alla! 22,29c23,27 Den historiska legotr=E4ffen =E4r nu =F6ver och Eric och undertecknad = har nu tagit oss tillbaka till Link=F6ping. Anders och Eric har fotat en massa (sj=E4lv hade jag gl=F6mt att min film tagit slut) Dock var det ingen = som hade digitalkameria, s=E5 det l=E4r tyv=E4rr dr=F6ja innan n=E5gra = bilder kan komma upp p=E5 webben. Den historiska legoträffen är nu över och Eric och undertecknad har nu tagit oss tillbaka till Linköping. Anders och Eric har fotat en massa (själv hade jag glömt att min film tagit slut) Dock var det ingen som hade digitalkameria, så det lär tyvärr dröja innan några bilder kan komma upp på webben. 32,33c30 > Vi hittade p=E5 ett spel, regler se nedan, s=E5 f=E5r ni sj=E4lva = prova. Vi satt nog i > Vi hittade på ett spel, regler se nedan, så får ni själva prova. Vi satt nog i 36,61c33,46 Det var lite oklart vem som vann eftersom vi inte tidigare hade = best=E4mt hur tv=E5 spelare skulle s=E4ras om de fick lika mycket po=E4ng. Min = modell var den som petade ner biten i m=E5let, men Eric fick n=E5got b=E4ttre p=E5 den = estetiska delen av t=E4vlingen. Det var n=E4mligen s=E5 att en viktig del av = t=E4vlingen var den avslutande po=E4ngs=E4ttningen som gjordes av modellernas utseende. = D=E4rf=F6r slutade vi p=E5 lika antal totalpo=E4ng. Nu p=E5 s=F6ndagen har vi byggt en rymdstation. Alla fick bygga ett = antal egna moduller och sedan skulle de olika modulerna s=E4ttas ihop, vilket gick = lite si och s=E5 d=E5 kompatibiliteten stundtals var tveksam och = gravitationen begr=E4nsade hur vi kunde placera modulerna. P=E5 det hela gick det dock = =F6ver f=F6rv=E4ntan och alla modulerna hade h=F6gst unika funktioner. Vi hann = ocks=E5 med ett bes=F6k p=E5 faktorimus=E9et. Tyv=E4rr var =E5ngmaskinerna inte = ig=E5ng, men man hann =E4nd=E5 f=E5 upp suget f=F6r att plocka fram sitt tekniklego och = b=F6rja bygga... Det var lite oklart vem som vann eftersom vi inte tidigare hade bestämt hur två spelare skulle säras om de fick lika mycket poäng. Min modell var den som petade ner biten i målet, men Eric fick något bättre på den estetiska delen av tävlingen. Det var nämligen så att en viktig del av tävlingen var den avslutande poängsättningen som gjordes av modellernas utseende. Därför slutade vi på lika antal totalpoäng. Nu på söndagen har vi byggt en rymdstation. Alla fick bygga ett antal egna moduller och sedan skulle de olika modulerna sättas ihop, vilket gick lite si och så då kompatibiliteten stundtals var tveksam och gravitationen begränsade hur vi kunde placera modulerna. På det hela gick det dock över förväntan och alla modulerna hade högst unika funktioner. Vi hann också med ett besök på faktorimuséet. Tyvärr var ångmaskinerna inte igång, men man hann ändå få upp suget för att plocka fram sitt tekniklego och börja bygga... 64d48
lugnet.loc.se:823 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24,25c25,26 PS. Tack till Eric som hj=E4lpte mig att transferera pengar =F6ver Atlanten. PS. Tack till Eric som hjälpte mig att transferera pengar över Atlanten. 38,39d38
lugnet.loc.se:828 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Efter en grym storst=E4dning, sortering m m h=E4r hemma har jag tvingats sl=E5 fast att jag beh=F6ver g=F6ra mig av med en del Lego. S=E5 t=E4nkte h=F6ra med denna lista innan jag s=E4ljer via andra kanaler. Efter en grym storstädning, sortering m m här hemma har jag tvingats slå fast att jag behöver göra mig av med en del Lego. Så tänkte höra med denna lista innan jag säljer via andra kanaler. 23,25c24,26 Det r=F6r sig enbart om Star Wars-Lego och jag s=E4ljer helst det jag vill g=F6ra mig av med i bulk. Skicka ett mail privat s=E5 listar jag vilka modeller det r=F6r sig om. Pris kan vi enas om tillsammans om n=E5gon =E4r sugen. Det rör sig enbart om Star Wars-Lego och jag säljer helst det jag vill göra mig av med i bulk. Skicka ett mail privat så listar jag vilka modeller det rör sig om. Pris kan vi enas om tillsammans om någon är sugen. 32d32
lugnet.loc.se:832 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Tobias M=F6ller wrote: Tobias Möller wrote: 21c22 > Jag =E4r lite intresserad. N=E4r du s=E4ger "i bulk", menar du bitar i bulk, > Jag är lite intresserad. När du säger "i bulk", menar du bitar i bulk, 26,27c27,28 Ju fler set desto billigare, typ. F=F6r enkelhetens skull m=E5ste jag dessutom s=E4lja dubletter av vissa modeller i par. Har t ex fem flash speeder som jag Ju fler set desto billigare, typ. För enkelhetens skull måste jag dessutom sälja dubletter av vissa modeller i par. Har t ex fem flash speeder som jag 35d35
lugnet.loc.se:854 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 31 Lines: 29 21c22 >> Prognosen f=F6r =E5r 2000 lutar =E5t 500 mille back i budgeten s=E5 de =E4r nog >> Prognosen för år 2000 lutar åt 500 mille back i budgeten så de är nog 23c24 >>=20 >> 25,27c26,28 >=20 > 500 mille bara? Det =E4r ju sm=E5potatis j=E4mf=F6rt med ett svenkt f=F6retag som > definitivt lider av storhetsvansinne g=F6r p=E5 > > 500 mille bara? Det är ju småpotatis jämfört med ett svenkt företag som > definitivt lider av storhetsvansinne gör på 30,31c31,32 Men det =E4r ganska mycket pengar f=F6r ett bolag som inte sitter p=E5 n=E5gra riktiga guldkalvar som t ex operat=F6rsdelen hos Ericsson... Men det är ganska mycket pengar för ett bolag som inte sitter på några riktiga guldkalvar som t ex operatörsdelen hos Ericsson... 33,43c34,42 Desperation har ju aldrig hj=E4lpt n=E5gon. Varf=F6r diversifierar de hela tiden? Varf=F6r nya produkter? Varf=F6r nya serier? S=E4ljer Rock Raiders, Alpha Team m = m tillr=E4ckligt mycket f=F6r att r=E4ttf=E4rdiga b=E5de spel och leksaker? Borde man inte fokusera =C4NNU mer p=E5 licensierade produkter? Tror att Lego m=E5ste b=F6rja st=E4lla in sig p=E5 att vara en smalare leverant=F6r a= v "high-end"-leksaker. 2001-katalogen =E4r skr=E4mmande tjock. Skr=E4mmande f=F6r att en stor del av sortimentet k=E4nns sm=E4ckig och =F6verfl=F6dig. Ett mindre, men tajtare sortiment vore nog =F6nskv=E4rt i m=E5ngas =F6gon... Eller? Desperation har ju aldrig hjälpt någon. Varför diversifierar de hela tiden? Varför nya produkter? Varför nya serier? Säljer Rock Raiders, Alpha Team m m tillräckligt mycket för att rättfärdiga både spel och leksaker? Borde man inte fokusera ÄNNU mer på licensierade produkter? Tror att Lego måste börja ställa in sig på att vara en smalare leverantör av "high-end"-leksaker. 2001-katalogen är skrämmande tjock. Skrämmande för att en stor del av sortimentet känns smäckig och överflödig. Ett mindre, men tajtare sortiment vore nog önskvärt i mångas ögon... Eller? 50d48
lugnet.loc.se:857 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 108 Lines: 91 20,24c21,23 Har verkligen antalet askar i sortimentet =F6kat? Jag var tveksam till det s=E5 jag tog och j=E4mf=F6rde katalogen fr=E5n 1991 med den f=F6r = 2001. (med reservation f=F6r felr=E4kningar, vilket s=E4kert finns = n=E5gonstans) Har verkligen antalet askar i sortimentet ökat? Jag var tveksam till det så jag tog och jämförde katalogen från 1991 med den för 2001. (med reservation för felräkningar, vilket säkert finns någonstans) 34,35c33,34 T=E5g: 12 B=E5tar: 3 Tåg: 12 Båtar: 3 53c52 T=E5g: 5 Tåg: 5 71,79c70,75 Exakt samma antal askar! D=E4remot har antalet teman exploderat. Antalet sidor i katalogen har vidare f=F6rdubblats fr=E5n 48 till 96. =C5rets = katalog har ett snitt p=E5 knappt 2,6 askar per sida! Inneh=E5llet d=E5? Om jag hade att v=E4lja p=E5 utbudet fr=E5n b=E5de 91 = och 01 vad skulle jag k=F6pa? Det =E4r ytterst tveksamt om jag skulle k=F6pa = n=E5got alls fr=E5n Exakt samma antal askar! Däremot har antalet teman exploderat. Antalet sidor i katalogen har vidare fördubblats från 48 till 96. Årets katalog har ett snitt på knappt 2,6 askar per sida! Innehållet då? Om jag hade att välja på utbudet från både 91 och 01 vad skulle jag köpa? Det är ytterst tveksamt om jag skulle köpa något alls från 82,84c78,79 F=F6r n=E4rvarande =E4r jag luspank efter att f=E5tt g=F6ra ett s=E5dant = val. Jag =E4r nu stolt =E4gare till samtliga pirataskarna p=E5 sidorna 18-19 efter ett För närvarande är jag luspank efter att fått göra ett sådant val. Jag är nu stolt ägare till samtliga pirataskarna på sidorna 18-19 efter ett 94,109c89,97 > >Tror att Lego m=E5ste b=F6rja st=E4lla in sig p=E5 att vara en = smalare leverant=F6r av > >"high-end"-leksaker. 2001-katalogen =E4r skr=E4mmande tjock. = Skr=E4mmande f=F6r att > >en stor del av sortimentet k=E4nns sm=E4ckig och =F6verfl=F6dig. Ett = mindre, men > >tajtare sortiment vore nog =F6nskv=E4rt i m=E5ngas =F6gon... Eller? >=20 > Speciellt om man j=E4mf=F6r katalogens utbud med det som finns i de = flesta > leksaksaff=E4rer. Vilken aff=E4r kan h=E5lla alla dessa olika saker i = lager? Det > blir inte _kunden_ som avg=F6r vad som s=E4ljer, utan = _aff=E4rsf=F6rest=E5ndaren_ > eftersom det som inte finns p=E5 hyllan inte heller kommer att s=E4lja = (utom i > >Tror att Lego måste börja ställa in sig på att vara en smalare leverantör av > >"high-end"-leksaker. 2001-katalogen är skrämmande tjock. Skrämmande för att > >en stor del av sortimentet känns smäckig och överflödig. Ett mindre, men > >tajtare sortiment vore nog önskvärt i mångas ögon... Eller? > > Speciellt om man jämför katalogens utbud med det som finns i de flesta > leksaksaffärer. Vilken affär kan hålla alla dessa olika saker i lager? Det > blir inte _kunden_ som avgör vad som säljer, utan _affärsföreståndaren_ > eftersom det som inte finns på hyllan inte heller kommer att sälja (utom i 111,121c99,105 >=20 > 'Stor & Liten' hade ganska bra utbud, som visserligen minskade f=F6re = =F6verg=E5ngen > till 'BR Leksaker', men nu har de knappt n=E5got! >=20 > Jag tror att de st=F6rre l=E5dorna _m=E5ste_ ligga i aff=E4ren, s=E5 = att barnen > =E5tminstonde f=E5r en mellanstor d=E5 och d=E5 (Man k=F6per ju aldrig = det allra > dyraste, eller hur...). Man m=E5ste kunna dr=F6mma om de stora = l=E5dorna (eller > > 'Stor & Liten' hade ganska bra utbud, som visserligen minskade före övergången > till 'BR Leksaker', men nu har de knappt något! > > Jag tror att de större lådorna _måste_ ligga i affären, så att barnen > åtminstonde får en mellanstor då och då (Man köper ju aldrig det allra > dyraste, eller hur...). Man måste kunna drömma om de stora lådorna (eller 123c107 >=20 > 128d111
lugnet.loc.se:858 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 41 Lines: 37 21,23c22,24 > Har verkligen antalet askar i sortimentet =F6kat? Jag var tveksam till > det s=E5 jag tog och j=E4mf=F6rde katalogen fr=E5n 1991 med den f=F6r 2001. > (med reservation f=F6r felr=E4kningar, vilket s=E4kert finns n=E5gonstans) > Har verkligen antalet askar i sortimentet ökat? Jag var tveksam till > det så jag tog och jämförde katalogen från 1991 med den för 2001. > (med reservation för felräkningar, vilket säkert finns någonstans) 27,39c28,37 > Exakt samma antal askar! D=E4remot har antalet teman exploderat. Antalet > sidor i katalogen har vidare f=F6rdubblats fr=E5n 48 till 96. =C5rets katalog > har ett snitt p=E5 knappt 2,6 askar per sida! Det =E4r f=F6rmodligen ocks=E5 d=E4ri vi finner en del av Legos problem. Teman k=E4nn= s som sagt enbart som ett desperat f=F6rs=F6k att s=E4lja produkter. Ist=E4llet f=F6r ganska konsekventa teman (rymd, pirat etc) har man b=F6rjat satsa h=E5rdare p=E5 konceptutvecklade saker i stil med Rock Raiders och Alpha Team. F=F6rdelen me= d dessa =E4r att de enkelt m=F6jligg=F6r ganska tama datorspelsproduktioner. =C5 andr= a sidan hade man troligen ganska enkelt kunnat producera B=C4TTRE datorspel > Exakt samma antal askar! Däremot har antalet teman exploderat. Antalet > sidor i katalogen har vidare fördubblats från 48 till 96. Årets katalog > har ett snitt på knappt 2,6 askar per sida! Det är förmodligen också däri vi finner en del av Legos problem. Teman känns som sagt enbart som ett desperat försök att sälja produkter. Istället för ganska konsekventa teman (rymd, pirat etc) har man börjat satsa hårdare på konceptutvecklade saker i stil med Rock Raiders och Alpha Team. Fördelen med dessa är att de enkelt möjliggör ganska tama datorspelsproduktioner. Å andra sidan hade man troligen ganska enkelt kunnat producera BÄTTRE datorspel 43,45c41,43 tanke att man fortsatt med t ex Star Wars kan man ju t=E4nka sig att de faktiskt s=E5lt bra. =C5 andra sidan kanske det faktum att de i =E5r sl=E4pper allt annat =E4n bra versioner av vissa skepp med h=F6g igenk=E4nningsfaktor (AT-ST...) tanke att man fortsatt med t ex Star Wars kan man ju tänka sig att de faktiskt sålt bra. Å andra sidan kanske det faktum att de i år släpper allt annat än bra versioner av vissa skepp med hög igenkänningsfaktor (AT-ST...) 48,49c46,47 Vore ocks=E5 intressant att j=E4mf=F6ra med en annan leksakstillverkare som torde st=E5 inf=F6r ungef=E4r samma problem, n=E4mligen Playmobil. Vore också intressant att jämföra med en annan leksakstillverkare som torde stå inför ungefär samma problem, nämligen Playmobil. 51,53c49,50 Heh... Har just bytt jobb. Kanske skulle kollat om det fanns n=E5gra =F6ppninga= r p=E5 Legos marknadsavdelning innan jag best=E4mde mig f=F6r mitt nya jobb. :-) Heh... Har just bytt jobb. Kanske skulle kollat om det fanns några öppningar på Legos marknadsavdelning innan jag bestämde mig för mitt nya jobb. :-) 60d56
lugnet.loc.se:885 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,24c21,25 Min legosortering =E4r p=E5 inget s=E4tt standardiserad, men huvuddelen av mina sorteringspytsar =E4r 2-liters glassaskar. Funkar bra f=F6r mig tycker jag och eftersom det konsumeras ganska s=E5 mycket glass hos oss, s=E5 =E4r tillg=E5ngen p=E5 sorteringsk=E4rl inget problem. Min legosortering är på inget sätt standardiserad, men huvuddelen av mina sorteringspytsar är 2-liters glassaskar. Funkar bra för mig tycker jag och eftersom det konsumeras ganska så mycket glass hos oss, så är tillgången på sorteringskärl inget problem. 27d27
lugnet.loc.se:886 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 61 Lines: 54 20,29c21,30 > Idag p=E5 min dotters tio=E5rskalas, utnyttjade vi min = hyresg=E4stf=F6renings lokal som vi medlemmar f=E5r l=E5na gratis under > f=F6ruts=E4ttning att vi l=E4mnar den i samma skick som innan. D=E4r = finns 4-5 bord, kanske 30 stolar, soffgrupp, k=F6k, toalett > och ett stort golv som kanske r=E4cker f=F6r all min klassiska bl=E5 = r=E4ls...! Om jag =E4r ute i god tid, finns npg m=F6jlighet att > l=E5na lokalen tv=E5 dagar i str=E4ck - eller kanske =E4nnu fler under = n=E5gon storhelg... >=20 > Jag tror inte =F6vernattning i lokalen =E4r till=E5ten,=20 > Idag på min dotters tioårskalas, utnyttjade vi min hyresgästförenings lokal > som vi medlemmar får låna gratis under > förutsättning att vi lämnar den i samma skick som innan. Där finns 4-5 bord, > kanske 30 stolar, soffgrupp, kök, toalett > och ett stort golv som kanske räcker för all min klassiska blå räls...! Om jag > är ute i god tid, finns npg möjlighet att > låna lokalen två dagar i sträck - eller kanske ännu fler under någon > storhelg... > > Jag tror inte övernattning i lokalen är tillåten, 31,32c32 =C4sch d=E5! Jag som tycker om att ligga och titta p=E5 en legostad = medan Äsch då! Jag som tycker om att ligga och titta på en legostad medan 35,62c35,36 > men m=F6jligen kan det t=E4nkas att jag f=E5r inkvartera n=E5gra i den = kyrka > jag tillh=F6r. Fast det har jag inte ens h=F6rt mig f=F6r om. Har du ingen skrubb eller n=E5't att sl=E4nga in folk i?=20 >=20 > Just nu =E4r jag ganska slutk=F6rd och orkar nog inte h=E5lla i = n=E5got, men kanske l=E4ngre fram=E5t v=E5ren...? >=20 > Min id=E9 =E4r att bygga en stad a la knytkalas d=E4r deltagarna = bidrar med byggnader, fordon och minifiggar. Och s=E5 > j=E4rnv=E4gsstation och ett j=E4ttelikt r=E4lssystem f=F6rst=E5s! >=20 > Antingen tar deltagarna med sig f=E4rdiga alster att placera ut eller = s=E5 har man varsitt bord att bygga med sina egna > bitar.=20 En kombination =E4r v=E4l l=E4mplig. F=F6rmodligen har vi att g=F6ra ett = bra tag med att bara arrangera ut allting folk tar med sig: Bygga = j=E4rnv=E4gssp=E5r etc. :) Det blir s=E4kert sv=E5rt att h=E5lla reda p=E5 vem som bidragit med vad = n=E4r vi ska packa ihop allt, men kanske man kan > kl=E4mma fast en liten papperslapp p=E5 undersidan av alstren eller = n=E5got s=E5n't? > men möjligen kan det tänkas att jag får inkvartera några i den kyrka > jag tillhör. Fast det har jag inte ens hört mig för om. 64,65c38 Hus, bilar och s=E5n't kan man v=E4l inte gl=F6mma bort vem det = tillh=F6r? Har du ingen skrubb eller nå't att slänga in folk i? 66a40,58 > > Just nu är jag ganska slutkörd och orkar nog inte hålla i något, men kanske > längre framåt våren...? > > Min idé är att bygga en stad a la knytkalas där deltagarna bidrar med > byggnader, fordon och minifiggar. Och så > järnvägsstation och ett jättelikt rälssystem förstås! > > Antingen tar deltagarna med sig färdiga alster att placera ut eller så har man > varsitt bord att bygga med sina egna > bitar. En kombination är väl lämplig. Förmodligen har vi att göra ett bra tag med att bara arrangera ut allting folk tar med sig: Bygga järnvägsspår etc. :) Det blir säkert svårt att hålla reda på vem som bidragit med vad när vi ska packa ihop allt, men kanske man kan > klämma fast en liten papperslapp på undersidan av alstren eller något sån't? 68,69c60 > Minifiggar blir ett problem med detta > tillv=E4gag=E5ngss=E4tt. N=E5gon med b=E4ttre f=F6rslag? Hus, bilar och sån't kan man väl inte glömma bort vem det tillhör? 71,73d61 Legogubbar som inte har vett att h=E5lla sig still i hus eller fordon = f=E5r ha ID-papper i jackfickan. (papper med =E4garens namn inuti =F6verkroppen) 75,76c63,64 =20 > L=E5ter hela id=E9n vettig eller ogenomf=F6rbar? > Minifiggar blir ett problem med detta > tillvägagångssätt. Någon med bättre förslag? 78c66,67 Jag =E4r p=E5. Legogubbar som inte har vett att hålla sig still i hus eller fordon får ha ID-papper i jackfickan. (papper med ägarens namn inuti överkroppen) 80c69,70 /Tommy > Låter hela idén vettig eller ogenomförbar? 81a72 Jag är på. 82a74 /Tommy
lugnet.loc.se:895 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 > Varf=F6r har man aldrig st=E5lar n=E4r man beh=F6ver dem? > Varför har man aldrig stålar när man behöver dem? 24,25c25,26 Jag vet inte hur det =E4r med dig, men f=F6r mig brukar det oftast vara f=F6r att jag nyligen varit och "tittat" i n=E5gon legoaff=E4r. :) Jag vet inte hur det är med dig, men för mig brukar det oftast vara för att jag nyligen varit och "tittat" i någon legoaffär. :) 28d28
lugnet.loc.se:920 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Jag har nu lagt upp n=E5gra bilder av min legostad p=E5: Jag har nu lagt upp några bilder av min legostad på: 24d24
lugnet.loc.se:923 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 67 Lines: 51 20,22c21,22 Jag b=F6rjade svara p=E5 det h=E4r direkt n=E4r det kom, men s=E5 var = jag bortrest n=E5gra dagar och gl=F6mde visst skriva f=E4rdigt och skicka det... Jag började svara på det här direkt när det kom, men så var jag bortrest några dagar och glömde visst skriva färdigt och skicka det... 25,43c25,37 > Det f=F6rsta som slog mig n=E4r jag tittade p=E5 din stad var att = n=E5gra av > byggnaderna p=E5minde lite om mina. >=20 > Den st=F6rsta =F6verraskningen kom n=E4r jag s=E5g att ett hus var = n=E4stan > identiskt j=E4mf=F6rt med ett av mina! Jag talar om det gula = tv=E5v=E5ningshuset > med bl=E5tt "trappstegs"-tak av klossar. Mitt hus ser ut p=E5 samma = s=E4tt! Det tror jag inte p=E5 f=F6rr=E4n jag ser det. ;) Iv=E4g med dig och = fotta nu! > Till och med den r=F6da randen p=E5 mitten! > Jag m=E5ste kn=E4ppa bilder av min stad n=E5n g=E5ng. >=20 > Jag tycker om att du har bygget en hel *stad* -min stad =E4r mer som = ett > Det första som slog mig när jag tittade på din stad var att några av > byggnaderna påminde lite om mina. > > Den största överraskningen kom när jag såg att ett hus var nästan > identiskt jämfört med ett av mina! Jag talar om det gula tvåvåningshuset > med blått "trappstegs"-tak av klossar. Mitt hus ser ut på samma sätt! Det tror jag inte på förrän jag ser det. ;) Iväg med dig och fotta nu! > Till och med den röda randen på mitten! > Jag måste knäppa bilder av min stad nån gång. > > Jag tycker om att du har bygget en hel *stad* -min stad är mer som ett 47,54c41,45 Jag har varken polis- eller brandstation i min stad... Men s=E5 kanske = det bara =E4r mitt s=E4tt att protestera mot LEGOs fixa id=E9 att tillverka = s=E5 m=E5nga polis- och brandstationer. :) =20 > De stora byggnaderna i mitten =E4r fina -=E4r de inredda ocks=E5, = eller bara Jag har varken polis- eller brandstation i min stad... Men så kanske det bara är mitt sätt att protestera mot LEGOs fixa idé att tillverka så många polis- och brandstationer. :) > De stora byggnaderna i mitten är fina -är de inredda också, eller bara 57,70c48,55 Om du tittar lite noggrant i f=F6nstren s=E5 ser du n=E5gra av husets = inv=E5nare. I allm=E4nhet har jag dock varit lite d=E5lig med inredningen och en del = av husen st=E5r faktist tomma. Har ni f.=F6. uppt=E4ckt att det numera g=E5r att best=E4lla ett stort = antal gamla "servicep=E5sar" fr=E5n Shop @ Home? Jag gjorde en best=E4llning i = f=F6rra veckan p=E5 ett antal p=E5sar och ett "My own train". Ut=F6kade bl.a. = mitt innehav av kanoner fr=E5n 25 till 29, s=E5 det =E4r s=E4krast att ni = passar er. :) Om du tittar lite noggrant i fönstren så ser du några av husets invånare. I allmänhet har jag dock varit lite dålig med inredningen och en del av husen står faktist tomma. Har ni f.ö. upptäckt att det numera går att beställa ett stort antal gamla "servicepåsar" från Shop @ Home? Jag gjorde en beställning i förra veckan på ett antal påsar och ett "My own train". Utökade bl.a. mitt innehav av kanoner från 25 till 29, så det är säkrast att ni passar er. :) 77c62 >=20 > 79c64 >=20 > 81,82c66,67 > >=20 > > Jag har nu lagt upp n=E5gra bilder av min legostad p=E5: > > > > Jag har nu lagt upp några bilder av min legostad på: 85c70 > >=20 > > 87d71
lugnet.loc.se:944 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 19 Lines: 16 20,23c21,22 > Jag skulle g=E4rna vilja k=F6pa Metrolinern, och allt det andra roliga = som > man bara kan f=E5 tag i via Internet. Men jag =E4r inte 18 =E4n, s=E5 = det g=E5r > Jag skulle gärna vilja köpa Metrolinern, och allt det andra roliga som > man bara kan få tag i via Internet. Men jag är inte 18 än, så det går 25,32c24,30 >=20 > =C4r det n=E5gon h=E4r som vet om man kan best=E4lla alla grejerna som = finns p=E5 > Internet, genom att ringa till Lego Sverige? =C4ven "bulk bricks"? Nix. Det g=E5r inte s=E5 vitt jag vet. Du f=E5r g=F6ra som jag och be n=E5n f=F6r=E4lder om hj=E4lp. (bara f=F6r att man =E4r 18 har man ju inte n=F6dv=E4ndigtvis betalkort) > > Är det någon här som vet om man kan beställa alla grejerna som finns på > Internet, genom att ringa till Lego Sverige? Även "bulk bricks"? Nix. Det går inte så vitt jag vet. Du får göra som jag och be nån förälder om hjälp. (bara för att man är 18 har man ju inte nödvändigtvis betalkort) 36,38c34 > --Tobias, som har ett nytt byggprojekt p=E5 g=E5ng... N=E4r f=E5r vi veta vad? > --Tobias, som har ett nytt byggprojekt på gång... 39a36 När får vi veta vad?
lugnet.loc.se:953 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 25 Lines: 18 20,40c21,22 > Vad jag minns best=E4mde vi inget s=E4rskilt, alla (3 stycken) = hoppades v=E4l att > det skulle dyka upp ett f=F6rslag n=E5n g=E5ng igen. Eric indikerade ju att han kanske kunde anordna en till sommarn... = Eric? > Finns det intresse, s=E5 kan vi mycket v=E4l tr=E4ffas h=E4r hos mig = igen (jag har > plats), men det =E4r inget jag propsar p=E5. Alla f=F6rslag kommer att = beaktas... Eskilstuna l=E5ter utm=E4rkt f=F6r mig annars. > Enligt min =E5sikt, s=E5 =E4r tiden strax efter ny=E5r (trettondan) = b=E4st, skolan har > inte b=F6rjat, och julstressen =E4r =F6ver (mera Lego?). Det ger oss = tillr=E4ckligt > med tid f=F6r planering ocks=E5 (inte f=F6r att det blev s=E5 mycket = planerat till > f=F6rra g=E5ngen :-)) > Vad jag minns bestämde vi inget särskilt, alla (3 stycken) hoppades väl att > det skulle dyka upp ett förslag nån gång igen. 42c24 Nah... Varf=F6r v=E4nta s=E5 l=E4nge? Jag vill ha legotr=E4ff nu! :) Eric indikerade ju att han kanske kunde anordna en till sommarn... Eric? 44c26,34 /Tommy > Finns det intresse, så kan vi mycket väl träffas här hos mig igen (jag har > plats), men det är inget jag propsar på. Alla förslag kommer att beaktas... Eskilstuna låter utmärkt för mig annars. > Enligt min åsikt, så är tiden strax efter nyår (trettondan) bäst, skolan har > inte börjat, och julstressen är över (mera Lego?). Det ger oss tillräckligt > med tid för planering också (inte för att det blev så mycket planerat till > förra gången :-)) 45a36,38 Nah... Varför vänta så länge? Jag vill ha legoträff nu! :) /Tommy
lugnet.loc.se:993 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 24 Lines: 19 20,21c21 > Det har verkat ganska d=F6tt h=E4r i .loc.se p=E5 sista tiden (Var = =E4r ni, Eric, > Det har verkat ganska dött här i .loc.se på sista tiden (Var är ni, Eric, 24,41c24,26 Jag finns h=E4r och bara v=E4ntar p=E5 att n=E5gon ska bjuda in mig till en legotr=E4ff. :-) Tyv=E4rr s=E5 =E4r jag f=F6r tr=E5ngbodd f=F6r att = ordna n=E5gon egen inbjudan. > Mitt erbjudande st=E5r fortfarande =F6ppet: Jag kan ordna en liten = Lego-tr=E4ff i > anslutning till tretton-helgen 2002 om intresse finns.=20 Jag har inget inbokat d=E5, s=E5 r=E4kna med mig! > Med tillr=E4ckligt m=E5nga p=E5 plats kan man ju b=F6rja diskutera ett = SWELUG > (Givetvis kan det diskuteras h=E4r p=E5 lugnet ocks=E5). Att kunna s=E4ga att man =E4r medlem i SWELUG l=E5ter ju r=E4tt s=E5 = coolt, men finns det n=E5gon annan anledning att formellt organisera oss? Jag finns här och bara väntar på att någon ska bjuda in mig till en legoträff. :-) Tyvärr så är jag för trångbodd för att ordna någon egen inbjudan. 43c28,34 /Tommy > Mitt erbjudande står fortfarande öppet: Jag kan ordna en liten Lego-träff i > anslutning till tretton-helgen 2002 om intresse finns. Jag har inget inbokat då, så räkna med mig! > Med tillräckligt många på plats kan man ju börja diskutera ett SWELUG > (Givetvis kan det diskuteras här på lugnet också). 44a36,39 Att kunna säga att man är medlem i SWELUG låter ju rätt så coolt, men finns det någon annan anledning att formellt organisera oss? /Tommy
lugnet.loc.se:1016 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 53 Lines: 51 21,24c22,25 >=20 > L=F6rdag-S=F6ndag 2002-01-12, 13 kommer vi att f=F6rs=F6ka tr=E4ffas > n=E5gra/m=E5nga Lego-fantaster hemma hos mig (Anders Isaksson) > h=E4r i Eskilstuna. > > Lördag-Söndag 2002-01-12, 13 kommer vi att försöka träffas > några/många Lego-fantaster hemma hos mig (Anders Isaksson) > här i Eskilstuna. 26c27 Jag anm=E4lder mig h=E4rmed! Jag anmälder mig härmed! 28,29c29,30 =20 > I =E5r har Johannes best=E4mt temat: Borg (Castle),=20 > I år har Johannes bestämt temat: Borg (Castle), 31,32c32,33 Jag f=E5r se till att best=E4lla ett "Garded Inn" i tid till tr=E4ffen d=E5, s=E5 har jag n=E5t att ta med mig att bygga d=E5. Jag får se till att beställa ett "Garded Inn" i tid till träffen då, så har jag nåt att ta med mig att bygga då. 35,36c36,37 > sj=E4lv skulle vilja utvidga till "Sagan om Ringen". =C5sikter > =E4r v=E4lkomna! > själv skulle vilja utvidga till "Sagan om Ringen". Åsikter > är välkomna! 38,41c39,41 Sj=E4lv tillh=F6r jag den lilla skara obildade personer som aldrig l=E4st Sagan om Ringen s=E5 jag f=E5r v=E4l se till att l=E4sa p=E5 = lite... :) =20 Själv tillhör jag den lilla skara obildade personer som aldrig läst Sagan om Ringen så jag får väl se till att läsa på lite... :) 43c43 > Titta p=E5 TV (N=E4r det finns Lego!!??) > Titta på TV (När det finns Lego!!??) 45c45 I s=E5 fall f=E5r det vara legofilm... I så fall får det vara legofilm... 48,49c48,49 > BrikWars. Jag har spelat lite med min =E4ldste son (14.5), > och han =E4r ganska pigg p=E5 det. Tar tid... > BrikWars. Jag har spelat lite med min äldste son (14.5), > och han är ganska pigg på det. Tar tid... 51c51 Jag kan plocka med mig en mindre arm=E9 med pirat- och westerntrupper Jag kan plocka med mig en mindre armé med pirat- och westerntrupper 54,71c54,70 =20 > P=E5 tr=E4ffen 2001-01-13 konstruerade vi ett (n=E5got krystat) > t=E4rningsspel med Legobyggande som centralt tema, vi skrattade > i alla fall v=E4ldigt mycket medan vi h=F6ll p=E5... N=E5got lagom flamsigt legospel tycker jag defenitivt vi ska kl=E4mma in. > =D6vernattning: > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Jag kan erbjuda s=E4ngplats f=F6r 4-5 personer, och har golv > som r=E4cker f=F6r n=E5gra till. Min flickv=E4n bor numera i Eskilstuna, s=E5 bostad =E4r inget problem. = Men jag l=E5nar g=E4rna en golvplats om det blir plats =F6ver. =20 > På träffen 2001-01-13 konstruerade vi ett (något krystat) > tärningsspel med Legobyggande som centralt tema, vi skrattade > i alla fall väldigt mycket medan vi höll på... Något lagom flamsigt legospel tycker jag defenitivt vi ska klämma in. > Övernattning: > ============= > Jag kan erbjuda sängplats för 4-5 personer, och har golv > som räcker för några till. Min flickvän bor numera i Eskilstuna, så bostad är inget problem. Men jag lånar gärna en golvplats om det blir plats över. 73d71
lugnet.loc.se:1020 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 21 Lines: 19 20c21 > "Elin =D6vern=E4s" <b8eliove@ulmo.stud.slu.se> skrev i meddelandet > "Elin Övernäs" <b8eliove@ulmo.stud.slu.se> skrev i meddelandet 23,24c24 > > Skulle det finnas plats s=E5 har jag en ganska stor borg modell (som = borde > > Skulle det finnas plats så har jag en ganska stor borg modell (som borde 28,29c28,29 >=20 > Hupp, d=E4r gick ett helt bord... kanske i st=F6rsta laget. > > Hupp, där gick ett helt bord... kanske i största laget. 31c31 Nah... Du f=E5r v=E4l ta med ett bord ocks=E5 s=E5 ordnar det sig. :) Nah... Du får väl ta med ett bord också så ordnar det sig. :) 34,36c34,35 > (Det verkar f=F6rresten som om topcities inte till=E5ter = direktl=E4nkar till bilder, > jag fick leta mig fram fr=E5n huvudsidan) > (Det verkar förresten som om topcities inte tillåter direktlänkar till bilder, > jag fick leta mig fram från huvudsidan) 38c37 Det funkade utm=E4rkt f=F6r mig. (IE 5.0) Det funkade utmärkt för mig. (IE 5.0) 41d39
lugnet.loc.se:1021 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 55 Lines: 45 20,25c21,24 > >Sj=E4lv tillh=F6r jag den lilla skara obildade personer som aldrig > >l=E4st Sagan om Ringen s=E5 jag f=E5r v=E4l se till att l=E4sa p=E5 = lite... :) >=20 > Blir nog lite sv=E5rt att l=E4sa ifatt - se filmen som har premi=E4r = 19/12 (bara del > >Själv tillhör jag den lilla skara obildade personer som aldrig > >läst Sagan om Ringen så jag får väl se till att läsa på lite... :) > > Blir nog lite svårt att läsa ifatt - se filmen som har premiär 19/12 (bara del 28c27 Kan l=E4sa recensionerna. ;) Kan läsa recensionerna. ;) 30,31c29,30 >=20 > >> Titta p=E5 TV (N=E4r det finns Lego!!??) > > >> Titta på TV (När det finns Lego!!??) 33,43c32,40 > >I s=E5 fall f=E5r det vara legofilm... >=20 > Yikes, s=E4g inte s=E5 d=E4r! Pojkarna har skaffa Lego Studios, och = jag har > genomlidit tillr=E4cklig m=E5nga 15-sekunders 'filmer' redan :-)) N=E5ja, dom verkar ju ha den starka sidan att dom =E4r korta i alla = fall. :) =20 > >> BrikWars. Jag har spelat lite med min =E4ldste son (14.5), > >> och han =E4r ganska pigg p=E5 det. Tar tid... > >I så fall får det vara legofilm... > > Yikes, säg inte så där! Pojkarna har skaffa Lego Studios, och jag har > genomlidit tillräcklig många 15-sekunders 'filmer' redan :-)) Nåja, dom verkar ju ha den starka sidan att dom är korta i alla fall. :) > >> BrikWars. Jag har spelat lite med min äldste son (14.5), > >> och han är ganska pigg på det. Tar tid... 45c42 > >Jag kan plocka med mig en mindre arm=E9 med pirat- och westerntrupper > >Jag kan plocka med mig en mindre armé med pirat- och westerntrupper 47,61c44,55 >=20 > Johannes uttrycker visst intresse, men gl=F6m inte att det tar en evig = tid att > f=F6rs=F6ka spela BW p=E5 riktigt. Jo jag vet. Sj=E4lv sysslade jag ett tag med att hitta p=E5 regler d=E4r = trupperna r=F6rde sig i grupper, d=E5 blev det i alla fall n=E5got snabbare. (och = l=E4ttare att simulera s=E5nt som stridsmoral) >=20 > >N=E5got lagom flamsigt legospel tycker jag defenitivt vi ska > >kl=E4mma in. >=20 > > Johannes uttrycker visst intresse, men glöm inte att det tar en evig tid att > försöka spela BW på riktigt. Jo jag vet. Själv sysslade jag ett tag med att hitta på regler där trupperna rörde sig i grupper, då blev det i alla fall något snabbare. (och lättare att simulera sånt som stridsmoral) > > >Något lagom flamsigt legospel tycker jag defenitivt vi ska > >klämma in. > 64,65c58 Kanske kan vara n=E5t. Vi f=E5r fundera lite. Vi har ju n=E5gra veckor = p=E5 oss Kanske kan vara nåt. Vi får fundera lite. Vi har ju några veckor på oss 68,71c61,62 Min flickv=E4n Cecilia vill titta in ocks=E5. Hon f=F6reslog att om det = kommer fler respektive kan man bilda en st=F6dgrupp f=F6r anh=F6riga till = personer Min flickvän Cecilia vill titta in också. Hon föreslog att om det kommer fler respektive kan man bilda en stödgrupp för anhöriga till personer 75,76d65
lugnet.loc.se:1027 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,23c21,24 Trevligt att h=F6ra att vi verkar bli fler =E4n f=F6rra =E5ret i alla fall. Men det =E4r fortfarande flera som vi inte har h=F6rt fr=E5n. (Tobias till exempel) Kom ig=E5ng och anm=E4l er nu om ni inte har n=E5n v=E4ldigt bra urs=E4kt att slippa! :) Trevligt att höra att vi verkar bli fler än förra året i alla fall. Men det är fortfarande flera som vi inte har hört från. (Tobias till exempel) Kom igång och anmäl er nu om ni inte har nån väldigt bra ursäkt att slippa! :) 26,27c27 (Som f=F6rberedde mig genom att se Sagan om Ringen i veckan) (Som förberedde mig genom att se Sagan om Ringen i veckan)
lugnet.loc.se:1030 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 9 Lines: 7 20,23c21,22 > =C4r det n=E5gon som har sett UCS X-Wing till vettigt pris = n=E5gonstans? Jag hittar > den ingenstans h=E4r i Eskilstuna, och min yngste grabb fyller snart = 12... > Är det någon som har sett UCS X-Wing till vettigt pris någonstans? Jag hittar > den ingenstans här i Eskilstuna, och min yngste grabb fyller snart 12... 25,26c24,25 I morgon kan jag kolla om dom har n=E5n kvar p=E5 Sagoland h=E4r i Link=F6ping. I morgon kan jag kolla om dom har nån kvar på Sagoland här i Linköping. 29d27
lugnet.loc.se:1032 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 10 Lines: 7 20,23c21,22 > =C4r det n=E5gon som har sett UCS X-Wing till vettigt pris = n=E5gonstans? Jag hittar > den ingenstans h=E4r i Eskilstuna, och min yngste grabb fyller snart = 12... > Är det någon som har sett UCS X-Wing till vettigt pris någonstans? Jag hittar > den ingenstans här i Eskilstuna, och min yngste grabb fyller snart 12... 25,27c24,25 Det =E4r rej=E4lt uts=E5lt i Link=F6ping ocks=E5, dom billigaste var = slut. Hittade en f=F6r 1499 om det =E4r av intresse. Det är rejält utsålt i Linköping också, dom billigaste var slut. Hittade en för 1499 om det är av intresse. 30d27
lugnet.loc.se:1035 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 9 Lines: 8 20,24c21,24 > >Det =E4r rej=E4lt uts=E5lt i Link=F6ping ocks=E5, dom billigaste var = slut. Hittade > >en f=F6r 1499 om det =E4r av intresse. >=20 > Nja, det =E4r v=E4l i mesta laget... Tack f=F6r unders=F6kningen. > >Det är rejält utsålt i Linköping också, dom billigaste var slut. Hittade > >en för 1499 om det är av intresse. > > Nja, det är väl i mesta laget... Tack för undersökningen. 26,28c26 Alla urs=E4kter att kolla runt i legoaff=E4rer =E4r bra urs=E4kter. :) /Tommy (som sp=E4nt v=E4ntar p=E5 mitt Metroliner kit) Alla ursäkter att kolla runt i legoaffärer är bra ursäkter. :) 29a28 /Tommy (som spänt väntar på mitt Metroliner kit)
lugnet.loc.se:1042 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 S=E5g en X-vinge idag f=F6r 1199. I fall intresse skulle finnas s=E5 st=E4nger inte aff=E4ren f=F6rr=E4n kl 20... Såg en X-vinge idag för 1199. I fall intresse skulle finnas så stänger inte affären förrän kl 20... 24d24
lugnet.loc.se:1105 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 23 Lines: 17 20,22c21,23 > ...om man har 4 kkr "=F6ver" att investera i LEGO (vilket jag tyv=E4rr > inte har - eller =E4r det tur? :) ) >=20 > ...om man har 4 kkr "över" att investera i LEGO (vilket jag tyvärr > inte har - eller är det tur? :) ) > 28,40c29,35 Synd att 4000 pix =E4r v=E4ldigt mycket pengar f=F6r mig bara... Kanske = skulle man sl=E5 ihop sig ett par stycken ist=E4llet och g=F6ra ett gemensamt = ink=F6p?=20 Alternativt om n=E5gon (technic-person?) =E4r k=F6psugen, men inte =E4r = intresserad av allt s=E5 kan det nog t=E4nkas g=E5 bra att kr=E4nga lite = stad/sj=F6r=F6var/riddar-lego till mig. Blir faktist lite sugen p=E5 techniclegot ocks=E5... 4000 = f=F6r h=E4lften av legot hade ju faktist varit r=E4tt s=E5 billigt, bara att det blir = lite f=F6r mycket legoutgift p=E5 en g=E5ng. Synd att 4000 pix är väldigt mycket pengar för mig bara... Kanske skulle man slå ihop sig ett par stycken istället och göra ett gemensamt inköp? Alternativt om någon (technic-person?) är köpsugen, men inte är intresserad av allt så kan det nog tänkas gå bra att kränga lite stad/sjörövar/riddar-lego till mig. Blir faktist lite sugen på techniclegot också... 4000 för hälften av legot hade ju faktist varit rätt så billigt, bara att det blir lite för mycket legoutgift på en gång. 43,44d37
lugnet.loc.se:1188 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 9 Lines: 8 20,21c21 > Nu har jag mailat inbjudan till 34 adresser, medlemmar p=E5 Lugnet = samt _alla_ > Nu har jag mailat inbjudan till 34 adresser, medlemmar på Lugnet samt _alla_ 25,26c25,26 Dock verkar du har gl=F6mt mig. :) Jag vill g=E4rna komma, ska bara unders=F6ka om jag har r=E5d... Dock verkar du har glömt mig. :) Jag vill gärna komma, ska bara undersöka om jag har råd... 29,30d28
lugnet.loc.se:1230 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 17 Lines: 14 21c22 >=20 > 23,24c24 > (2003-01-07 16:11) Kommunanst=E4llda i Wales riskerar att sparkas = f=F6r opassande > (2003-01-07 16:11) Kommunanställda i Wales riskerar att sparkas för opassande 28,29c28 Tur att man inte har n=E5got jobb d=E5. *klickar vidare bland l=E4nkarna = under Tur att man inte har något jobb då. *klickar vidare bland länkarna under 32,34c31,32 Blir man kickad f=F6r det h=E4r i Wales, s=E5 =E4r det nog dags f=F6r = arbetarna att ta till vapen mot f=F6rtrycket... Blir man kickad för det här i Wales, så är det nog dags för arbetarna att ta till vapen mot förtrycket... 37,39d34
lugnet.loc.se:1241 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 14 Lines: 10 20,33c21,23 > Som sagt s=E5 =E4r det inte mycket skoj p=E5 g=E5ng nu i b=F6rjan p=E5 = 2003 men man f=E5r > v=E4l se, ett Sagan Om Ringen-tema tror jag skulle vara mycket = v=E4lkommet =E4ven > om det inte =E4r s=E5 troligt. =C4h! Sagan om ringen =E4r ute nu! Vi hade ju Sagan om ringen-tema redan = p=E5 fjol=E5rets LEGO-tr=E4ff hos Isakssons. :) /Tommy =20 (som hoppas kunna f=E5 tag i ett jobb snart, s=E5 han kan l=E4gga en = best=E4llning p=E5 "Main Street") > Som sagt så är det inte mycket skoj på gång nu i början på 2003 men man får > väl se, ett Sagan Om Ringen-tema tror jag skulle vara mycket välkommet även > om det inte är så troligt. 34a25,26 Äh! Sagan om ringen är ute nu! Vi hade ju Sagan om ringen-tema redan på fjolårets LEGO-träff hos Isakssons. :) 35a28,30 /Tommy (som hoppas kunna få tag i ett jobb snart, så han kan lägga en beställning på "Main Street")
lugnet.loc.se:1335 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 14 Lines: 13 20,23c21,23 > T=E4nkte det kunde vara roligt att se vad folket h=E4r har f=F6r sorts = Lego. > Sj=E4lv har jag Technic, ModelTeams, Mindstorms och UCS. > Resten d=E5? > Tänkte det kunde vara roligt att se vad folket här har för sorts Lego. > Själv har jag Technic, ModelTeams, Mindstorms och UCS. > Resten då? 25,27c25,27 Sj=E4lv s=E5 besvarar jag den h=E4r fr=E5gan genom att prova min nya f=F6delsedagspresent, en digitalkamera. Dagsf=E4rska bilder finns nu uppe p=E5: Själv så besvarar jag den här frågan genom att prova min nya födelsedagspresent, en digitalkamera. Dagsfärska bilder finns nu uppe på: 29c29 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D34636 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=34636 31c31 Kommentarer mottages tacksamt. (iaf sn=E4lla kommentarer) :) Kommentarer mottages tacksamt. (iaf snälla kommentarer) :) 34,35d33
lugnet.loc.se:1338 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 56 Lines: 46 20,25c21,25 > De tv=E5 scener som fick mig att le som mest =E4r dessa: > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3D327248 >=20 > Jag gillar hur det ser ut som att han f=F6rs=F6ker =F6vertala = skorpionen att ta d=F6d > p=E5 sig sj=E4lv. > De två scener som fick mig att le som mest är dessa: > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=327248 > > Jag gillar hur det ser ut som att han försöker övertala skorpionen att ta död > på sig själv. 27c27 Jag ska rapportera om han lyckas med =F6vertalningen. :) Jag ska rapportera om han lyckas med övertalningen. :) 30,31c30 > Jag ser att det =E4r en Kodak du f=E5tt och att den inte =E4r *s=E5* = ny,=20 > Jag ser att det är en Kodak du fått och att den inte är *så* ny, 33,36c32,34 Det =E4r en sony DSC-P91. N=E4r det har blivit lite suddigt s=E5 =E4r = det nog mitt fel snarare =E4n kamerans. :) Sen har jag minskat lite p=E5 bilderna ocks=E5, en mb styck verkade lite on=F6digt stort. Det är en sony DSC-P91. När det har blivit lite suddigt så är det nog mitt fel snarare än kamerans. :) Sen har jag minskat lite på bilderna också, en mb styck verkade lite onödigt stort. 39c37 > du har =E4nd=E5 > du har ändå 43,45c41,42 Har man en vacker flickv=E4n och gulliga kissar s=E5 =E4r det l=E4tt = h=E4nt. Nu har jag tagit fler bilder p=E5 2 veckor =E4n under mina tidigare 24 =E5r. Har man en vacker flickvän och gulliga kissar så är det lätt hänt. Nu har jag tagit fler bilder på 2 veckor än under mina tidigare 24 år. 48,52c45,47 > Fast hela Skansholm ser ut att beh=F6va en v=E5rflod, kanske du kan = l=E5na en > kompressor av n=E5gon och bl=E5sa bort allt damm? Annars finns det = sprayburkar med > bara luft i f=F6r reng=F6ring av optik/elektronik.=20 > Fast hela Skansholm ser ut att behöva en vårflod, kanske du kan låna en > kompressor av någon och blåsa bort allt damm? Annars finns det sprayburkar med > bara luft i för rengöring av optik/elektronik. 54,58c49,51 En lowtechmetod annars =E4r fuktig trasa. Jag ser p=E5 en del av = bilderna att det nog =E4r dags att b=F6rja anv=E4nda sig av den. F=F6rmodligen var det = dags redan f=F6r ett =E5r sedan. :) En lowtechmetod annars är fuktig trasa. Jag ser på en del av bilderna att det nog är dags att börja använda sig av den. Förmodligen var det dags redan för ett år sedan. :) 61,62c54,55 > Om jag bygger en stad n=E5gon g=E5ng > har jag t=E4nkt att ha ett lakan =F6ver den n=E4r den "vilar". > Om jag bygger en stad någon gång > har jag tänkt att ha ett lakan över den när den "vilar". 64,66c57,58 Den st=E5r i ett rum d=E4r ingen =E4r n=E4r den "vilar" s=E5 det b=F6r = inte ha varit till n=E5gon st=F6rre hj=E4lp i det h=E4r fallet. Den står i ett rum där ingen är när den "vilar" så det bör inte ha varit till någon större hjälp i det här fallet. 68,69c60,61 =20 > Vore skoj att komma och studera IRL n=E5gon g=E5ng. > Vore skoj att komma och studera IRL någon gång. 71,73c63,64 Har du v=E4garna f=F6rbi n=E5gon dag s=E5. D=E4remot s=E5 =E4r det lite = opraktiskt att ta med stan n=E4r man =E5ker p=E5 legotr=E4ff. ;) Har du vägarna förbi någon dag så. Däremot så är det lite opraktiskt att ta med stan när man åker på legoträff. ;) 76,77d66
lugnet.loc.se:1349 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 > Toys 'R Us vid Marieberg/IKEA i =D6rebro har en bunt > http://guide.lugnet.com/set/7855 f=F6r 25:-/styck. > Toys 'R Us vid Marieberg/IKEA i Örebro har en bunt > http://guide.lugnet.com/set/7855 för 25:-/styck. 23,24c24,25 Toys R Us i Link=F6ping har dem ocks=E5 s=E5g jag. Synd att jag inte har n=E5gra 12V-t=E5g bara. :) Toys R Us i Linköping har dem också såg jag. Synd att jag inte har några 12V-tåg bara. :) 27,28d27
lugnet.loc.se:1386 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 10 Lines: 7 20,25c21,23 > Tjena.. "disskutera" stavas inte med 2 "s"... och det vete hundan om = vi har > plural "s" i Svedala.. Men =E5 andra sidan s=E5 =E4r f=F6rkorningen = AFOL inte > svensk. Vi f=E5r s=E4tta Horace Engdahl p=E5 att l=F6sa det problemet. = =3D) > Tjena.. "disskutera" stavas inte med 2 "s"... och det vete hundan om vi har > plural "s" i Svedala.. Men å andra sidan så är förkorningen AFOL inte > svensk. Vi får sätta Horace Engdahl på att lösa det problemet. =) 27c25 Det b=F6r v=E4l heta afoler? :) Det bör väl heta afoler? :) 30,31d27
lugnet.loc.se:1392 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 11 Lines: 9 21,23c22,23 > Bra jobb med nya loc.se sidan, men det =E4r v=E4l fler =E4n bara jag = som inte =E4r > AFOL:s(=F6ver 18). > Bra jobb med nya loc.se sidan, men det är väl fler än bara jag som inte är > AFOL:s(över 18). 25,28c25,27 Vi kanske ska =E4ndra "AFOL:s" till "AFOL:s och NSAFOL:S" (Not So Adult Fans Of Lego) Den senare akronymen t=E4cker ju ocks=E5 upp alla oss = andra som inte heller k=E4nner oss s=E5 vuxna. :) Vi kanske ska ändra "AFOL:s" till "AFOL:s och NSAFOL:S" (Not So Adult Fans Of Lego) Den senare akronymen täcker ju också upp alla oss andra som inte heller känner oss så vuxna. :) 31,32d29
lugnet.loc.se:1428 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 Hoppas man f=E5r lite aktuella rapporter h=E4r. Jag hade s=E5 g=E4rna =E5kt, men =E4r tyv=E4rr t=E4mligen luspank. :( Hoppas man får lite aktuella rapporter här. Jag hade så gärna åkt, men är tyvärr tämligen luspank. :( 24,25d24
lugnet.loc.se:1490 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 Jag ska s=E4lja f=F6ljande set (kompletta i kartong), och t=E4nkte h=F6ra med folk h=E4r innan jag l=E4gger upp dem p=E5 Tradera: Jag ska sälja följande set (kompletta i kartong), och tänkte höra med folk här innan jag lägger upp dem på Tradera: 23,25c24,26 6088 och 6093 (tillsammans eller var f=F6r sig) 7163 (sl=E4nger med 7143 p=E5 k=F6pet) 7181 (sl=E4nger med 7166 p=E5 k=F6pet) 6088 och 6093 (tillsammans eller var för sig) 7163 (slänger med 7143 på köpet) 7181 (slänger med 7166 på köpet) 27c28 Om n=E5gon =E4r intresserad, maila mig privat s=E5 kan vi diskutera pris mm. Om någon är intresserad, maila mig privat så kan vi diskutera pris mm. 30c31 --=20 -- 33d33
lugnet.loc.uk:1389 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 45 Lines: 44 21,22c22 ATTN ALL SHOPPING: Low prices reported for ECC, Hereford on discontinued s= ets. ATTN ALL SHOPPING: Low prices reported for ECC, Hereford on discontinued sets. 25c25 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ========== 35c35 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ======== 39,42c39,42 6766 Rapid River Village =A330 6097 Night Lord's Castle =A337 6480? Technic Shuttle =A360 6560 Diving Expedition Explorer =A337 6766 Rapid River Village £30 6097 Night Lord's Castle £37 6480? Technic Shuttle £60 6560 Diving Expedition Explorer £37 44,45c44,45 5561 Big Foot 4x4=A337 6748 Boulder Cliff Canyon =A330 5561 Big Foot 4x4£37 6748 Boulder Cliff Canyon £30 63,64d62
lugnet.loc.uk:1720 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26c27 =46ound the article here: Found the article here: 35,36c36 =20
lugnet.loc.uk:2176 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 Would anyone in the UK, preferably someone going to the fest on 11/12 be = willing to swap a MISB shuttle for a MISB 8880 supercar? Would anyone in the UK, preferably someone going to the fest on 11/12 be willing to swap a MISB shuttle for a MISB 8880 supercar? 24,25c25,26 I will be bringing two 8880's to the fest, but if anyone wants to trade, = PLMK beforehand if possible. I will be bringing two 8880's to the fest, but if anyone wants to trade, PLMK beforehand if possible.
lugnet.loc.uk:2235 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Just a quick note, to let you know that on a short visit to the afore = mentioned premises this afternoon I noted the following sets,all prices = were going rate, nothing other than ZNAP appeared to be reduced.; Just a quick note, to let you know that on a short visit to the afore mentioned premises this afternoon I noted the following sets,all prices were going rate, nothing other than ZNAP appeared to be reduced.; 24,37c25,38 8203 - =A32.99 8204 - =A32.99 8215 - =A38.49 8032 - =A317.99 8459 - =A344.99 8425 - =A324.99 8253 - =A319.99 8277 - =A334.99 8422 - =A324.99 8816 - =A314.50 8235 - =A317.99 872 - =A317.99 (old motor set) shop had 3, all had high shelf wear 8022 - =A310.99 8232 - =A319.99 8203 - £2.99 8204 - £2.99 8215 - £8.49 8032 - £17.99 8459 - £44.99 8425 - £24.99 8253 - £19.99 8277 - £34.99 8422 - £24.99 8816 - £14.50 8235 - £17.99 872 - £17.99 (old motor set) shop had 3, all had high shelf wear 8022 - £10.99 8232 - £19.99 40c41 5542 =A336.99 5542 £36.99 42,43c43,44 They also had one old castle set and one old pirate set (did being past = tense, as I bought them!)=20 They also had one old castle set and one old pirate set (did being past tense, as I bought them!) 45,46c46,47 There was nothing much else of interest other than one islanders set = King kahuka =A33.75 9forgot number) There was nothing much else of interest other than one islanders set King kahuka £3.75 9forgot number)
lugnet.loc.uk:2268 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 I know its early, but looking at my diary I find that I will be around = the Redditch/Bromsgrove/Studley area on the folowing dates: I know its early, but looking at my diary I find that I will be around the Redditch/Bromsgrove/Studley area on the folowing dates: 30,32c31,33 PS similarly is there any good shops in this area that are worth a look. = I know the area vaguely, and visit the area on business a few times a = year, but have not yet stumbled across any independent toyshops yet? PS similarly is there any good shops in this area that are worth a look. I know the area vaguely, and visit the area on business a few times a year, but have not yet stumbled across any independent toyshops yet?
lugnet.loc.uk:2432 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 33 Lines: 32 21,23c22,23 I went to an independant shop in Chingford east london, near where my = parents live today, and they had an abndance of new 2000 stock on the = shelves. I went to an independant shop in Chingford east london, near where my parents live today, and they had an abndance of new 2000 stock on the shelves. 37,38c37,38 They also had an 8868 MISB =A344.99 and a 8459 =A339.99 and some old = batlord sets, divers etc They also had an 8868 MISB £44.99 and a 8459 £39.99 and some old batlord sets, divers etc
lugnet.loc.uk:2447 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Just to let you know that I saw 5571 Model team trucks - 'BLACK CAT' for = =A355 at McArthur Glen Outlet this weekend Just to let you know that I saw 5571 Model team trucks - 'BLACK CAT' for £55 at McArthur Glen Outlet this weekend 24,25c25,26 Time Cruisers sets were still on Shelves at Alders of Ilford? (just in = case anyone out there wants / likes them?) Time Cruisers sets were still on Shelves at Alders of Ilford? (just in case anyone out there wants / likes them?) 27,28c28,29 BTW Has anyone seen the LEGOLAND software game, re; building your own = park? more so does anyone own it? is it any good? Info appreciated. BTW Has anyone seen the LEGOLAND software game, re; building your own park? more so does anyone own it? is it any good? Info appreciated.
lugnet.loc.uk:2448 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,28c22,29 After a =A310UKP win on last night's lottery, I bought a small arctic = set today mainly for the neat minifig and the orange parts, overall I = was quite impressed for =A33.79UKP I also bought a couple of castle sets 4806, and 6094. The bigger one = 6094 has some pretty neat tan lion head parts and a new half octagonal = design wall piece, good for making towers. - I shall be incorporating = these parts into my MK2 tower base or possibly the totem pole? After a £10UKP win on last night's lottery, I bought a small arctic set today mainly for the neat minifig and the orange parts, overall I was quite impressed for £3.79UKP I also bought a couple of castle sets 4806, and 6094. The bigger one 6094 has some pretty neat tan lion head parts and a new half octagonal design wall piece, good for making towers. - I shall be incorporating these parts into my MK2 tower base or possibly the totem pole? 34,35c35,36 PS I have scanned the inset catalogues, but have no where to post them = anyone want to pout them on their site? PS I have scanned the inset catalogues, but have no where to post them anyone want to pout them on their site?
lugnet.loc.uk:2460 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 All NW festers,=20 All NW festers, 23c24 Mookie (Tamy) mailed me this:=20 Mookie (Tamy) mailed me this: 42,44c43,45 OK, so admittedly I am basking in this priase, but I think this is the = kind of inspiration we need. We should therefore endeavour to make the = totem pole or tower 2 as best we can.=20 OK, so admittedly I am basking in this priase, but I think this is the kind of inspiration we need. We should therefore endeavour to make the totem pole or tower 2 as best we can.
lugnet.loc.uk:2483 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 I just picked up some 2881 and 2887's in Swiss chocolate promos brought = back from Austria? According to huw's databasw the 2887 was a Brazilian = promo previously? I just picked up some 2881 and 2887's in Swiss chocolate promos brought back from Austria? According to huw's databasw the 2887 was a Brazilian promo previously?
lugnet.loc.uk:2501 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 21,24c22,24 This maybe old news, but the sets that were spotted in TK max before = xmas are now reduced by a further third. My local shop in Ilford had = sold out of 5571 trucks, but if anyone has a TK max near them that's = selling 5571's cheap PLMK. This maybe old news, but the sets that were spotted in TK max before xmas are now reduced by a further third. My local shop in Ilford had sold out of 5571 trucks, but if anyone has a TK max near them that's selling 5571's cheap PLMK. 26,27c26,27 Additionally if you would like to buy one and trade for a MISB 8880 = PLMK, as I would love to trade an 8880 for a 5571! Additionally if you would like to buy one and trade for a MISB 8880 PLMK, as I would love to trade an 8880 for a 5571! 29,30c29,30 they still had a number of 6289's for =A333 and divers sets, some = technic, space, ufo etc they still had a number of 6289's for £33 and divers sets, some technic, space, ufo etc
lugnet.loc.uk:2626 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 Anyone know where the box is right now, I was hoping to see it soon so = we can get the next cycle started. I have a pile of stuff sorted and = ready to go in, just hoping that theres some goos stuff to come out!!!! Anyone know where the box is right now, I was hoping to see it soon so we can get the next cycle started. I have a pile of stuff sorted and ready to go in, just hoping that theres some goos stuff to come out!!!! 25,26c26,27 Update from current/previous host must appreciated.i.e has it moved on = since xmas? Update from current/previous host must appreciated.i.e has it moved on since xmas?
lugnet.loc.uk:2726 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 Who has the J-Box right now its been quite for a few weeks, and I know = I'm not the only one thats waiting for it to come round? Who has the J-Box right now its been quite for a few weeks, and I know I'm not the only one thats waiting for it to come round?
lugnet.loc.uk:2808 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Sorry guys, I can not make the 11th Wife says no as I am away all that = week. The week after would have been OK, but never mind there be other = fests. I look forward to seeing how inspired your pole will be! etc. Sorry guys, I can not make the 11th Wife says no as I am away all that week. The week after would have been OK, but never mind there be other fests. I look forward to seeing how inspired your pole will be! etc.
lugnet.loc.uk:2840 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 48 Lines: 46 19,39c20,38 Well, I have again decided to take the bull by the horns. In the absence = of the last box, I will start another one, its 'five year mission to = boldly seek and explore brave new worlds' - well Lego festers homes at = least! and lets hope its more like five months than years eh? I have prepared the current line up of all who, that have said that your = up for another round. Its been democratically done, using small pieces = of paper with your names on! So no complaining please. (unless I have = missed you off!) If when the first J-Box turns up I will deal with that on the same rota, = so its possible that there will be two boxes circulating at some point = this year (hopefully anyway). I for one hope we have not lost the = original box, if it turns out we have, then please accept my apologies. = Therefore as Liam recently stated we need regular tracking so can we all = endeavour to post even if its only to say I have the box, I have sent = the box etc. Now before I send off what I have sorted to No1 on the new list (lucky = Liam), does anyone wish to send me anything to add to the box? If so = please let me know asap. Well, I have again decided to take the bull by the horns. In the absence of the last box, I will start another one, its 'five year mission to boldly seek and explore brave new worlds' - well Lego festers homes at least! and lets hope its more like five months than years eh? I have prepared the current line up of all who, that have said that your up for another round. Its been democratically done, using small pieces of paper with your names on! So no complaining please. (unless I have missed you off!) If when the first J-Box turns up I will deal with that on the same rota, so its possible that there will be two boxes circulating at some point this year (hopefully anyway). I for one hope we have not lost the original box, if it turns out we have, then please accept my apologies. Therefore as Liam recently stated we need regular tracking so can we all endeavour to post even if its only to say I have the box, I have sent the box etc. Now before I send off what I have sorted to No1 on the new list (lucky Liam), does anyone wish to send me anything to add to the box? If so please let me know asap. 44,47c43,46 =20 1. Liam Parnell=20 2. Alan Kershaw =20 3. Dave Till=20 1. Liam Parnell 2. Alan Kershaw 3. Dave Till 49,51c48,50 5. Jon Hayward=20 6. Jason Briscoe=20 7. Ian Bishop =20 5. Jon Hayward 6. Jason Briscoe 7. Ian Bishop 53,56c52,55 9. Chris Dee=20 10. Scott Arthur =20 11. Simon Denscombe=20 12. John Stormes=20 9. Chris Dee 10. Scott Arthur 11. Simon Denscombe 12. John Stormes
lugnet.loc.uk:2841 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 I am looking for one of the Imperial Soilders hats, not three corner = type, but taller hat with integral black feather. Does anyone have one = to sell or trade? I desperately need one, but could use more. I am looking for one of the Imperial Soilders hats, not three corner type, but taller hat with integral black feather. Does anyone have one to sell or trade? I desperately need one, but could use more.
lugnet.loc.uk:3050 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 Just to let you all know, Chris said that he sent me the box on 9th? So = far it has nor arrived, although I have found a reasonable ammount of = stuff to go in it. Just to let you all know, Chris said that he sent me the box on 9th? So far it has nor arrived, although I have found a reasonable ammount of stuff to go in it.
lugnet.loc.uk:3051 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,24c22,25 In an effort to recreate a cheap orange Austrian football team, I have = successfuly used car polish to remove the printing from the torso of a = 2000 town construction worker minifig, that has orange torso and legs, = with dark grey hands. In an effort to recreate a cheap orange Austrian football team, I have successfuly used car polish to remove the printing from the torso of a 2000 town construction worker minifig, that has orange torso and legs, with dark grey hands. 26,27c27,28 Looks quite good when stickered! - Think i will do a whole team! - Only = thing is what to do with leftover parts, some of which are juniorised? Looks quite good when stickered! - Think i will do a whole team! - Only thing is what to do with leftover parts, some of which are juniorised?
lugnet.loc.uk:3090 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 Just to let you know that I got the minifig box today from Chris Dee. I = have taken out what I want and added a few bits. I am ready to send it = on, but need to know who to send it to? Just to let you know that I got the minifig box today from Chris Dee. I have taken out what I want and added a few bits. I am ready to send it on, but need to know who to send it to? 27c28 PLMK=20 PLMK
lugnet.loc.uk:3104 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 21,22c22 After some delays the 2nd UK J-box is underway an on route to Liam = Parnell. After some delays the 2nd UK J-box is underway an on route to Liam Parnell. 24,25c24,25 Netx up after that is Lucky Alan Kershaw, who just so happens is next in = line for the minifig box. Netx up after that is Lucky Alan Kershaw, who just so happens is next in line for the minifig box.
lugnet.loc.uk:3230 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 23 Lines: 22 21,24c22,24 As you have not responded to me regarding J-Box 3 and I have had no one = saying that they wish to send me anything to put in the new box. I = suggest I send it off to No2 on the list thats Alan lots of lego but no = money Kershaw? As you have not responded to me regarding J-Box 3 and I have had no one saying that they wish to send me anything to put in the new box. I suggest I send it off to No2 on the list thats Alan lots of lego but no money Kershaw?
lugnet.loc.uk:3231 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,25c22,26 Dave Duckie, kindly sent me Dave Ryder's snail mail address, so I have = written him a letter explaining the situation and that basically we want = our J-box back. I have included an sae so he has no excuse not to reply = and I have also stated that if he can't afford to send the box on then I = will arrange to get it picked up or pay the postage myself. Dave Duckie, kindly sent me Dave Ryder's snail mail address, so I have written him a letter explaining the situation and that basically we want our J-box back. I have included an sae so he has no excuse not to reply and I have also stated that if he can't afford to send the box on then I will arrange to get it picked up or pay the postage myself. 29,30c30,31 Also I was thinking about starting J-Box 4 which would be solely new = parts, i.e.. nothing used? anyone interested in this idea? Also I was thinking about starting J-Box 4 which would be solely new parts, i.e.. nothing used? anyone interested in this idea?
lugnet.loc.uk:3241 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 19,20c20 Is anyone still in need of any of these? only another 5 came my way = today? Is anyone still in need of any of these? only another 5 came my way today?
lugnet.loc.uk:3363 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 42 Lines: 41 21,22c22,23 Looking at Huw's thumbnails It sure looked good up there, and I wished I = could have been there! Looking at Huw's thumbnails It sure looked good up there, and I wished I could have been there! 24,41c25,41 Anyway, as some of you already know, (especially Huw), my ability to get = day passes rubber stamped by the wife is limited! So therefore my = attention is increasingly being drwan to the possibility of staging a = local fest. - That way I get to go. No dates as yet, but I am thinking about looking into hiring a number of = halls that I have earmarked in my local area, (Woodfrod Green in ESSEX) = Its not far from M11, A13, A406, M25. The halls I have in mind are also = particularly near to the Central Line tube stations of Buckhurst Hill = and Roding Valley. The disadvantage is its not served that well by BR = stations? Firstly I need to guage interest and possible dates? - As fests go from = strength to strength attendance is probaby not a big issue, however I am = not sure that I will be able to get a good deal like Simon's hall, and = therefore am thinking maximum attendance may be needed in order to keep = costs low. So should I need to sell advance tickets, would anyone be = opposed to som form of deposit or advance ticket sales? Anyway, as some of you already know, (especially Huw), my ability to get day passes rubber stamped by the wife is limited! So therefore my attention is increasingly being drwan to the possibility of staging a local fest. - That way I get to go. No dates as yet, but I am thinking about looking into hiring a number of halls that I have earmarked in my local area, (Woodfrod Green in ESSEX) Its not far from M11, A13, A406, M25. The halls I have in mind are also particularly near to the Central Line tube stations of Buckhurst Hill and Roding Valley. The disadvantage is its not served that well by BR stations? Firstly I need to guage interest and possible dates? - As fests go from strength to strength attendance is probaby not a big issue, however I am not sure that I will be able to get a good deal like Simon's hall, and therefore am thinking maximum attendance may be needed in order to keep costs low. So should I need to sell advance tickets, would anyone be opposed to som form of deposit or advance ticket sales? 43,44c43,44 Also as the possibility also exists that it may still grow bigger, then = I may need some organisation, any volunteers for help? Also as the possibility also exists that it may still grow bigger, then I may need some organisation, any volunteers for help?
lugnet.loc.uk:3394 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Is anyone aware of, or even purchased any of the so called limited = edition Nestle lego easter eggs exclusively available from=20 Is anyone aware of, or even purchased any of the so called limited edition Nestle lego easter eggs exclusively available from 23,24c24,25 I saw them at the weekend but had for got to mention it before now, I = think there is three, a duplo one, a basic one and a technic one? I saw them at the weekend but had for got to mention it before now, I think there is three, a duplo one, a basic one and a technic one?
lugnet.loc.uk:3428 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 18 Lines: 17 21,23c22,23 Just to let you know that J box 1 (the original has ben posted and is on = its way to Ayreshire for Ian) and that afdter a delay J-box 2 has been = sent to Liam. Just to let you know that J box 1 (the original has ben posted and is on its way to Ayreshire for Ian) and that afdter a delay J-box 2 has been sent to Liam.
lugnet.loc.uk:3429 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 51 Lines: 47 19,20c20,21 For anyone that's interested I had a FOTY today. The whether was fine = and boot sale season has started. For anyone that's interested I had a FOTY today. The whether was fine and boot sale season has started. 22,52c23,50 I must admit I was a bit reluctant to get up at 5.45 this morning. But = nonetheless I made the effort, mainly as my daughter woke up around = 5.30am. After having looked round for several hours scanning the stalls, = I was feeling deflated, having found only one MISB UK Macdonalds set.=20 Anyway as I was walking back to the car, I noted a seller just unloading = a crate and several boxes of Lego, My heart pounded as I cold see the = distinct silver box with the numbering 4558, at first I thought I was = asleep and dreaming. But no I was definitely awake, I tentatively asked "how much is the = train?" to which a mans voce replied, well we have not had time to sort = it out, a lot of the parts are all mixed together" followed by a = pause... then he continued " I'd rather not split it..=A315 quid for the = lot?" trying not to smile too much I opened the metroliner box, no = instructions, but three grey baseplates, two grey nose cones, wheel = sets, track, one of the two black cab sections, quite a few doors and = windows. I did not have to think twice, but I tried my luck and said = =A312, but to no avail. Ah well =A315 was still good, plus the lot included some technic, pirate = and aquazone sets as well. The only thing is I have not investigated it = properly as its been in the boot of the car all day? I have been dying = to get it in and examine it, however as some of you already know, my = wife and lego do not mix well, so I am forced to wait until the cast is = clear, then can sneek it in without her looking. This is my second incomplete metroliner obtained from the car boot sale, = the last one was early last year when I was not on line, and I naively = chucked out the box, which as it happens was in better shape than this = box. I must admit I was a bit reluctant to get up at 5.45 this morning. But nonetheless I made the effort, mainly as my daughter woke up around 5.30am. After having looked round for several hours scanning the stalls, I was feeling deflated, having found only one MISB UK Macdonalds set. Anyway as I was walking back to the car, I noted a seller just unloading a crate and several boxes of Lego, My heart pounded as I cold see the distinct silver box with the numbering 4558, at first I thought I was asleep and dreaming. But no I was definitely awake, I tentatively asked "how much is the train?" to which a mans voce replied, well we have not had time to sort it out, a lot of the parts are all mixed together" followed by a pause... then he continued " I'd rather not split it..£15 quid for the lot?" trying not to smile too much I opened the metroliner box, no instructions, but three grey baseplates, two grey nose cones, wheel sets, track, one of the two black cab sections, quite a few doors and windows. I did not have to think twice, but I tried my luck and said £12, but to no avail. Ah well £15 was still good, plus the lot included some technic, pirate and aquazone sets as well. The only thing is I have not investigated it properly as its been in the boot of the car all day? I have been dying to get it in and examine it, however as some of you already know, my wife and lego do not mix well, so I am forced to wait until the cast is clear, then can sneek it in without her looking. This is my second incomplete metroliner obtained from the car boot sale, the last one was early last year when I was not on line, and I naively chucked out the box, which as it happens was in better shape than this box. 54,55c52 I hope this is a sign of things to come for 2000, a clubcar next = perhaps? I hope this is a sign of things to come for 2000, a clubcar next perhaps?
lugnet.loc.uk:3485 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 39 Lines: 38 21,22c22 Rxed it (JB1) OK yesterday thanks. I have processed it in / out, but = I'll not Rxed it (JB1) OK yesterday thanks. I have processed it in / out, but I'll not 26,27c26,27 Who is it to go to next, I'll need an address?=20 =20 Who is it to go to next, I'll need an address? 40c40 =20 43c43 Whatever happens I'll not leave the old J-box short though.=20 Whatever happens I'll not leave the old J-box short though.
lugnet.loc.uk:3685 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 31 Lines: 29 19c20 Hi,=20 Hi, 21,24c22,24 I was in a town that shall remain a secret nbut was somewhere in France = on wednesday its about 150km from Calais, and found a store selling = metroliners, clubcars and a whole host of train and non train old sets. = It was fantastic I was in a town that shall remain a secret nbut was somewhere in France on wednesday its about 150km from Calais, and found a store selling metroliners, clubcars and a whole host of train and non train old sets. It was fantastic 26,28c26,28 Unfortunately, both time and money were against me. However I was = thinking of arranging a Euro shopping trip, so that we could take = adavantage of this opportunity and visit as many shops as we can? Unfortunately, both time and money were against me. However I was thinking of arranging a Euro shopping trip, so that we could take adavantage of this opportunity and visit as many shops as we can? 30,32c30,31 I can take six willing people in my car, and provide we split costs we = can have a days shopping in france to buy up good stock for around = =A315-20 per person? I can take six willing people in my car, and provide we split costs we can have a days shopping in france to buy up good stock for around £15-20 per person? 34,36c33,35 PLMK if your interested and possible dates, first come first served. = Crossing would be by tunnel and would mean an early start, possible meet = up in Essex/Kent border areas. PLMK if your interested and possible dates, first come first served. Crossing would be by tunnel and would mean an early start, possible meet up in Essex/Kent border areas.
lugnet.loc.uk:3701 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 51 Lines: 49 21,56c22,55 there seems to be a lot of interest in this, and as Huw has already = pointed out to me some of us will be disappointed! To clarify the shop = was not full of metroliners two were just about visible through the shop = window. I don't know how much they were but a guestimate is around = 800-900F approx. =A380-90. the shop did not look liked it discounted = hence its stock. Classic space sets were seen, (not 928's newer classic type sets) I = could also see older pirate sets, castle etc. I could only see half the = display as the other half faced inwards, yet I could see several silver = boxes, distinctive of train stuff. This was only one shop and I think I passed another in a village not to = far away. i would suggest that there must be more shops like this, = ideally we need a French yellow pages, and perhaps some idea of a route. With regard to dates, in reality, I think we are looking at July, rather = than late June some time after 22? what do people feel and I think we'll = have to go with the flow for a Saturday or weekday? With regard to the actual address of this shop, well I don't exactly = know, I know the town (well I think I do) but if we give too much away = then we could could get guzumped ourselves, as it is a 150Km radius of = Calais, narrows it down!!!! So far, those that have expressed an interest are, Huw Millngton, Jon = Hayward, Lawrence Wilkes, Ian Bishop, Carbon 60, Michael Edwards, = someone form Southampton (sorry) and probably a few others who I can't = recall right now, so theres another problem, I can only take six people, = (7 including me), on the way back things may be a bit crowded, i.e.Lego = on laps, on roof rack etc but it does keep costs to the minimum. The = fewer people the more expensive it is! Thanks for all those that have replied so far, I too think that this is = a novel idea, and we need to set out a few ground rules, like who gets = what, and what the ground rules are RE: profiteering? there seems to be a lot of interest in this, and as Huw has already pointed out to me some of us will be disappointed! To clarify the shop was not full of metroliners two were just about visible through the shop window. I don't know how much they were but a guestimate is around 800-900F approx. £80-90. the shop did not look liked it discounted hence its stock. Classic space sets were seen, (not 928's newer classic type sets) I could also see older pirate sets, castle etc. I could only see half the display as the other half faced inwards, yet I could see several silver boxes, distinctive of train stuff. This was only one shop and I think I passed another in a village not to far away. i would suggest that there must be more shops like this, ideally we need a French yellow pages, and perhaps some idea of a route. With regard to dates, in reality, I think we are looking at July, rather than late June some time after 22? what do people feel and I think we'll have to go with the flow for a Saturday or weekday? With regard to the actual address of this shop, well I don't exactly know, I know the town (well I think I do) but if we give too much away then we could could get guzumped ourselves, as it is a 150Km radius of Calais, narrows it down!!!! So far, those that have expressed an interest are, Huw Millngton, Jon Hayward, Lawrence Wilkes, Ian Bishop, Carbon 60, Michael Edwards, someone form Southampton (sorry) and probably a few others who I can't recall right now, so theres another problem, I can only take six people, (7 including me), on the way back things may be a bit crowded, i.e.Lego on laps, on roof rack etc but it does keep costs to the minimum. The fewer people the more expensive it is! Thanks for all those that have replied so far, I too think that this is a novel idea, and we need to set out a few ground rules, like who gets what, and what the ground rules are RE: profiteering?
lugnet.loc.uk:3737 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 Only time is a ticking if we are doing another join effort, tower, train = layout etc? Only time is a ticking if we are doing another join effort, tower, train layout etc?
lugnet.loc.uk:3752 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 19,25c20,25 At the weekednd I managed to put together my 2 incomplete Metroliners to = from an almost complete one. however I find that I have too many doors = with the handle on the left (i.e. the open from left to right). This = said I am one righthand door short, so was wondering if by some miracle = some one out there may have too many Left hand doors and can be = persuaded to do a swap? - I know its doubtful but thought it was woth a = try. At the weekednd I managed to put together my 2 incomplete Metroliners to from an almost complete one. however I find that I have too many doors with the handle on the left (i.e. the open from left to right). This said I am one righthand door short, so was wondering if by some miracle some one out there may have too many Left hand doors and can be persuaded to do a swap? - I know its doubtful but thought it was woth a try.
lugnet.loc.uk:3869 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 If anyone is looking for a cheap source of the M&M promo sets: 2186 and = 2187, PLMK as I have just picked up quite a few for a good price. If anyone is looking for a cheap source of the M&M promo sets: 2186 and 2187, PLMK as I have just picked up quite a few for a good price.
lugnet.loc.uk:3964 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 19,22c20,23 This maybe be old news but, just to let you know at Bluewater today they = had the SW ultimate collector series sets in stock and on display. X = wing looks very nice, one point to note there is a one piece sticker = which looks like it covers around 16 4x1 tiles though! This maybe be old news but, just to let you know at Bluewater today they had the SW ultimate collector series sets in stock and on display. X wing looks very nice, one point to note there is a one piece sticker which looks like it covers around 16 4x1 tiles though! 24,28c25,28 Also in store is the Dino sets and something which I have not seen = before? small figure only packs of between one and three figures from = RR, town, castle, Ninja ranges etc. All sets start 35XX and come with a = unique lego baseplate and a trading card thing, very similar to top = trumps/pokemon. Prices are 2.50 to 5.00. Also in store is the Dino sets and something which I have not seen before? small figure only packs of between one and three figures from RR, town, castle, Ninja ranges etc. All sets start 35XX and come with a unique lego baseplate and a trading card thing, very similar to top trumps/pokemon. Prices are 2.50 to 5.00.
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lugnet.loc.uk:4091 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 19,21c20,22 is anyone in the UK willing to trade a 9v electric point either used or = new for a good condition blue 4.5v point? I thought I'd offer it here = before going to marketplace. is anyone in the UK willing to trade a 9v electric point either used or new for a good condition blue 4.5v point? I thought I'd offer it here before going to marketplace. 23,24c24 BTW should anyone be interested I also have some 4.5v blue rails and a = signal. BTW should anyone be interested I also have some 4.5v blue rails and a signal.
lugnet.loc.uk:4099 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Are we any closer to getting a july fest date, we are nearly in july and = I need to get my pass application in with the wife pretty soon, = otherwise I won't be able to come and play! Are we any closer to getting a july fest date, we are nearly in july and I need to get my pass application in with the wife pretty soon, otherwise I won't be able to come and play!
lugnet.loc.uk:4457 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 This is probably not thie first post about this toady but, what a let = down. Apart from the few decent etchnic sets like the 8458, it looks = like Argos has shifted over to Blockmen clones! This is probably not thie first post about this toady but, what a let down. Apart from the few decent etchnic sets like the 8458, it looks like Argos has shifted over to Blockmen clones! 23c24 Regards=20 Regards
lugnet.loc.uk:4458 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Come on guy's, Autumn is just around the corner and its been quite on = the J box front for a few months now, what's happening! Come on guy's, Autumn is just around the corner and its been quite on the J box front for a few months now, what's happening!
lugnet.loc.uk:4476 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 21 20,23c21,22 edition of 'Collectors Gazette' and there were 2 articles: one = regarding [from what I saw] a persons lego collection [with a large building of = some edition of 'Collectors Gazette' and there were 2 articles: one regarding [from what I saw] a persons lego collection [with a large building of some 26,27c25 [includes STONE construction bricks, which I believe were similar to = lego, [includes STONE construction bricks, which I believe were similar to lego, 30,37c28,31 Unfortunately, as this publication costs $10 down here,[=A31.75 in the = UK which is under $5 Aus] I thought it was a little over-priced, but if = anyone has a copy, I'd be interested in seeing a scanned copy of the articles. = [Or if you don't want them, I'd be interested in the articles themselves :) = ] Unfortunately, as this publication costs $10 down here,[£1.75 in the UK which is under $5 Aus] I thought it was a little over-priced, but if anyone has a copy, I'd be interested in seeing a scanned copy of the articles. [Or if you don't want them, I'd be interested in the articles themselves :) ] 39,43c33,37 Benjamin Whytcross=20 BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au=20 Ph: (03) 9856 5282=20 Directory Technology Pty Ltd=20 1/436 Elgar Road,=20 Benjamin Whytcross BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au Ph: (03) 9856 5282 Directory Technology Pty Ltd 1/436 Elgar Road, 47d40
lugnet.loc.uk:4485 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 168 Lines: 145 19,26c20,23 I'm looking for some information on a catalogue I acquired yesterday in = a bunch of mixed parts from the 50's (?) to possibly the 80's. [Includes = CA bricks, I think] The main information I'm after is what year the = catalogue was issued for, and what sets it was likely to have come with, or = whether it I'm looking for some information on a catalogue I acquired yesterday in a bunch of mixed parts from the 50's (?) to possibly the 80's. [Includes CA bricks, I think] The main information I'm after is what year the catalogue was issued for, and what sets it was likely to have come with, or whether it 29,34c26,28 The catalogue is English, and was "PRINTED IN GT. BRITAIN" and is 8 = pages. [I'm not describing all pictures or even mentioning most of them, as = this would be entirely too long if I did. I'll try and get scans up tonight, = or The catalogue is English, and was "PRINTED IN GT. BRITAIN" and is 8 pages. [I'm not describing all pictures or even mentioning most of them, as this would be entirely too long if I did. I'll try and get scans up tonight, or 38,45c32,35 Picture of a boy building a tower with bricks in red, white, blue, = yellow, black, and clear on a grey 700/e plate. There are classic windows and = doors, wheels, but no sloped bricks visible. Below this is a red rectangle = with 'LEGO (R)' in white with a black border, and 'The Building Toy' in = yellow Picture of a boy building a tower with bricks in red, white, blue, yellow, black, and clear on a grey 700/e plate. There are classic windows and doors, wheels, but no sloped bricks visible. Below this is a red rectangle with 'LEGO (R)' in white with a black border, and 'The Building Toy' in yellow 72c62 Lego bricks are so easy to build with, you don't need=20 Lego bricks are so easy to build with, you don't need 74,75c64 Below all this is a similar house and building explanation to that at = the Below all this is a similar house and building explanation to that at the 78,79c67 Page 3: [" ALL prices apply to U.K. only and are subject to = alteration"] Page 3: [" ALL prices apply to U.K. only and are subject to alteration"] 88,91c76,77 "Even the smallest 010 set will build animals, soldiers and ships as = well as houses. Of course, a bigger set builds more models, gives more fun. The = 050 "Even the smallest 010 set will build animals, soldiers and ships as well as houses. Of course, a bigger set builds more models, gives more fun. The 050 95,96c81 Picture of a completed town plan set [with 8 cars and 4 trucks], it's = closed Picture of a completed town plan set [with 8 cars and 4 trucks], it's closed 98,103c83,86 "Set 810 The Complete Town Plan Set =A37.19.6. The most wonderful present the Lego enthusiast can receive. The = Complete Town Plan Set contains all the bricks and parts you need as shown = above. Set 700K in strong wooden box. =A35.5.0" "Set 810 The Complete Town Plan Set £7.19.6. The most wonderful present the Lego enthusiast can receive. The Complete Town Plan Set contains all the bricks and parts you need as shown above. Set 700K in strong wooden box. £5.5.0" 148,149c131 The Pull Toy, of jumbo sized Lego bricks is specially designed for = Children The Pull Toy, of jumbo sized Lego bricks is specially designed for Children 163,164c145 I hope that this information is useful in working out where this = catalogue I hope that this information is useful in working out where this catalogue 168,169c149 [1] This seems as true now as whenever it was written [about parents = [Dad in [1] This seems as true now as whenever it was written [about parents [Dad in 171,172c151 [2] I had thought lego was against this sort of things [soldiers] but = this [2] I had thought lego was against this sort of things [soldiers] but this 174,175c153 [3] These are CERTAINLY not DUPLO...the studs appear to be the size of = a 4x4 [3] These are CERTAINLY not DUPLO...the studs appear to be the size of a 4x4 179,183c157,161 Benjamin Whytcross=20 BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au=20 Ph: (03) 9856 5282=20 Directory Technology Pty Ltd=20 1/436 Elgar Road,=20 Benjamin Whytcross BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au Ph: (03) 9856 5282 Directory Technology Pty Ltd 1/436 Elgar Road, 187d164
lugnet.loc.uk:4665 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,22c20,23 Question: has anyone ever seen any bricks smaller than the current brick = proprtions? only I have just come by a dozen or so bricks in what i can = only describe as 50% smaller than standard! they do not link with normal = bricks yet are embossed with the LEGO logo and look and feel like lego?=20 Question: has anyone ever seen any bricks smaller than the current brick proprtions? only I have just come by a dozen or so bricks in what i can only describe as 50% smaller than standard! they do not link with normal bricks yet are embossed with the LEGO logo and look and feel like lego? 24,25c25,26 Any info appreciated, and I shll bring them along to TVLF so others can = see that this is not a hoax. Any info appreciated, and I shll bring them along to TVLF so others can see that this is not a hoax.
lugnet.loc.uk:4667 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 35 Lines: 30 22,23c23 I went to Kingston Upon Thames last Saturday and I found some low prices = on the I went to Kingston Upon Thames last Saturday and I found some low prices on the 26c26 8277 =A319.99 XXL Model technic (1997) 8277 £19.99 XXL Model technic (1997) 29,31c29,31 7101 Lightsaber Duel =A32.49 7111 Droid Figther =A32.49 7121 Naboo Swamp =A33.99 7101 Lightsaber Duel £2.49 7111 Droid Figther £2.49 7121 Naboo Swamp £3.99 33,34c33 The set 7121 is especially interesting for those who are looking for droi= ds. The set 7121 is especially interesting for those who are looking for droids. 36,37c35 Where it is : Bentall Center, Bentall Shop, ground floor. Kingston Upon T= hames. Where it is : Bentall Center, Bentall Shop, ground floor. Kingston Upon Thames. 40,43c38,39 Unfortunatly, I do not live at kingston anymore, so I can't go and buy fo= r you. By the way, can someone explain me how you do when you buy a large quanti= ty and Unfortunatly, I do not live at kingston anymore, so I can't go and buy for you. By the way, can someone explain me how you do when you buy a large quantity and
lugnet.loc.uk:4858 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 46 Lines: 45 23,25c24,26 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris F.=20 To: Phil Traviss=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris F. To: Phil Traviss 30,42c31,42 ok thanks for your help...my mom won't let me phone lego because the = long distance charges=20 I would be very greatful if you could ask around...thanks bye=20 Phil Traviss wrote:=20 Hi Chris, I have checked and I'm afraid I don't have this set myself = (I have a number of others with similar numbers, but not 6975). However, = all is not lost, there is bound to be someone on LUGNET who will have a = copy. Alternatively...have you tried calling LEGO themselves? They often = will help with sets less than 3 years old, and rarely ask you to pay = anything :-) Let me know if you need me to ask on LUGNET for you... = Regards, Phil. =20 ok thanks for your help...my mom won't let me phone lego because the long distance charges I would be very greatful if you could ask around...thanks bye Phil Traviss wrote: Hi Chris, I have checked and I'm afraid I don't have this set myself (I have a number of others with similar numbers, but not 6975). However, all is not lost, there is bound to be someone on LUGNET who will have a copy. Alternatively...have you tried calling LEGO themselves? They often will help with sets less than 3 years old, and rarely ask you to pay anything :-) Let me know if you need me to ask on LUGNET for you... Regards, Phil. 48,52c48,52 hi, for christmas I got a lego space ship it was a UFO I have lost = my blueprints and I can't find them, The idem # is 6975, I would really = like to know if you have to blueprints to this model, If you do could = you PLEASE send it to cw88@goright.to=20 Thanks for your time an answering this question=20 hi, for christmas I got a lego space ship it was a UFO I have lost my blueprints and I can't find them, The idem # is 6975, I would really like to know if you have to blueprints to this model, If you do could you PLEASE send it to cw88@goright.to Thanks for your time an answering this question
lugnet.loc.uk:4933 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 18 20,23c21,22 > = > > Question: Has anyone heard of any Star Wars bargains in the UK at th= e > > > Question: Has anyone heard of any Star Wars bargains in the UK at the 25,26c24 > > Argos seem to be out of everything. Are Woolies or Toys R Us reduci= ng > > Argos seem to be out of everything. Are Woolies or Toys R Us reducing 29,35c27,30 > = > TRU finally brought their Gungan Sub below =A320 (actually =A319-49). A= lso their > Siths are now =A314-97. > = > > TRU finally brought their Gungan Sub below £20 (actually £19-49). Also their > Siths are now £14-97. > 38,41c33,34 Few weeks ago I saw a big discount on some numbers at Bentall Center in K= ingston Upon Thames. I may go there on the Week end. Let me know if you are inter= ested. Few weeks ago I saw a big discount on some numbers at Bentall Center in Kingston Upon Thames. I may go there on the Week end. Let me know if you are interested. 43,44c36 items (which I remember) are : Droid fighter, lightsaber duel and naboo s= wamp items (which I remember) are : Droid fighter, lightsaber duel and naboo swamp
lugnet.loc.uk:4961 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 21 20,21c21 > = > 24,25c24 > = > 29,32c28,29 What I have notice is that French prices on LEGO are often cheaper. BUT C= alais Carrefour (jointly with TESCO) is more expensive than other places in Fra= nce. What I have notice is that French prices on LEGO are often cheaper. BUT Calais Carrefour (jointly with TESCO) is more expensive than other places in France. 35,36c32 In the same time, with =A31 =3D 11.39 FRF (this morning median rate excha= nge), it's In the same time, with £1 = 11.39 FRF (this morning median rate exchange), it's 41,43c37,38 If you have any questions, I can try to answer. I use to go often to Cala= is by Eurotunnel (=A315 return on saturday evening) and I'm also french... If you have any questions, I can try to answer. I use to go often to Calais by Eurotunnel (£15 return on saturday evening) and I'm also french...
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lugnet.loc.uk:5270 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,22c20,23 Just picked up a very incomplete 6399 Airport shuttle for =A33, I'll be = posting a picture on my web site, but if anyone can help me out with any = spare parts PLMK. for starters I need two red windows and a light blue = cab section to complete the train. Just picked up a very incomplete 6399 Airport shuttle for £3, I'll be posting a picture on my web site, but if anyone can help me out with any spare parts PLMK. for starters I need two red windows and a light blue cab section to complete the train. 26c27 Jason=20 Jason
lugnet.loc.uk:5721 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 28 Lines: 20 18,19c19 Following my post this morning I had a mail asking for details about this= shop. Following my post this morning I had a mail asking for details about this shop. 21,22c21 The shop is in Clapham Junction (London Zone 2). If I well remember the n= ame it The shop is in Clapham Junction (London Zone 2). If I well remember the name it 25c24 http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?x=3D527250&y=3D175250 http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?x=527250&y=175250 28,41c27,31 Hamleys. Unfortunatly there is no sales (or I did not saw them for 6 mont= hs). They had a falcon millenium, but HE has disappeared between X-mas and New= Year (:-((). The price was =A375. I can go there on the week end, so if you want me to check a price, no pr= oblem. Also in Clapham, There is a "Allders" with lots of lego, but more expensi= ve. I found another shop, a little bit further in the main street, but one more= time, no special prices (but still cheaper than Hamleys). Hamleys. Unfortunatly there is no sales (or I did not saw them for 6 months). They had a falcon millenium, but HE has disappeared between X-mas and New Year (:-((). The price was £75. I can go there on the week end, so if you want me to check a price, no problem. 43c33,35 Hope this help, = Also in Clapham, There is a "Allders" with lots of lego, but more expensive. I found another shop, a little bit further in the main street, but one more time, no special prices (but still cheaper than Hamleys). 44a37 Hope this help,
lugnet.loc.uk:6005 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 18 Lines: 17 19,23c20,23 I have been working on a Victorian looking station, similar approach to = Lawrence metro station, but I am in need of 1x8 red archs, 1x4 red = tiles, red thin wall sections, small 1x4 red lattice fences, and 2x2 = round red bricks. So if you have any for sale or trade please let me = know. I have been working on a Victorian looking station, similar approach to Lawrence metro station, but I am in need of 1x8 red archs, 1x4 red tiles, red thin wall sections, small 1x4 red lattice fences, and 2x2 round red bricks. So if you have any for sale or trade please let me know.
lugnet.loc.uk:6006 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,24c22,25 I have acquired a quantity of new Compaq PCMIA external floppy disk = drives, al new in boxes with manuals etc? does anyone have a use for one = or more of them and are they worth keeping or should I put them back = into the skip from whence they came? I have acquired a quantity of new Compaq PCMIA external floppy disk drives, al new in boxes with manuals etc? does anyone have a use for one or more of them and are they worth keeping or should I put them back into the skip from whence they came?
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lugnet.loc.uk:6110 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 30 Lines: 21 19,20c20,21 I went to Calais two weeks ago, and the Falcon is at 700 FRF at Toy R US.= = I went to Calais two weeks ago, and the Falcon is at 700 FRF at Toy R US. The French franc is at 10.51 (this morning) which is £67 ish. 22,25c23 The French franc is at 10.51 (this morning) which is =A367 ish. As it does not contains any milk or meat, you can freely bring it back to= UK As it does not contains any milk or meat, you can freely bring it back to UK 28,29c26 The TRU is in the commercial center, on the left. = The TRU is in the commercial center, on the left. 32,35c29,30 I have noticed that Legos (Star Wars) are around 1 to 2 pounds less expe= nsive in France. I also had time to compare prices beetween TRU and Carrefour, = there I have noticed that Legos (Star Wars) are around 1 to 2 pounds less expensive in France. I also had time to compare prices beetween TRU and Carrefour, there 42,47c37,39 > This isn't the only price hike. The Millenium Falcon is now =A390, com= pared > to the older price of =A380 (still =A375 at Lego Shop@Home). They've a= lso taken > to putting extra-tight plastic bands around the larger sets, which dama= ge > This isn't the only price hike. The Millenium Falcon is now £90, compared > to the older price of £80 (still £75 at Lego Shop@Home). They've also taken > to putting extra-tight plastic bands around the larger sets, which damage
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lugnet.loc.uk:6318 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 grey 2x2 and 1x8 tiles.=20 grey 2x2 and 1x8 tiles. 24,25c25,26 Also If anyone has any clock tiles, either digital 12:01 type or round = analouge clocks I could use em! cash or trade.=20 Also If anyone has any clock tiles, either digital 12:01 type or round analouge clocks I could use em! cash or trade. 27c28 red 2x2 round top brick=20 red 2x2 round top brick
lugnet.loc.uk:6450 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 31 Lines: 30 19,20c20,21 As many of you know, I am always on the look out for lego bargains at = car boot sales, however this wekend revealed a mutlitude of finds. As many of you know, I am always on the look out for lego bargains at car boot sales, however this wekend revealed a mutlitude of finds. 22,24c23,24 Among the usual haul of second hand stuff including a pair 1x3 grey = doors and some other 918 parts, I was amazed by a number of stall = selling MISB sets! Among the usual haul of second hand stuff including a pair 1x3 grey doors and some other 918 parts, I was amazed by a number of stall selling MISB sets! 26,29c26,29 Fo instance basic buckets 3041 =A36.00 less if you bought a quantity! = Bionicle mask packs 30p, bionicle cans =A32, many junior town sets from = =A32 (all less than half shop price) Old slizers were =A31. small = bionicles were aslso =A31.00 or 2 for =A31.50. Fo instance basic buckets 3041 £6.00 less if you bought a quantity! Bionicle mask packs 30p, bionicle cans £2, many junior town sets from £2 (all less than half shop price) Old slizers were £1. small bionicles were aslso £1.00 or 2 for £1.50. 31,32c31,32 Best buys of all were adventurer dino island sets, 5955 for =A37.50 and = a small green technic motorbike for =A31 Best buys of all were adventurer dino island sets, 5955 for £7.50 and a small green technic motorbike for £1 34,36c34,36 I was wondering if at these prices the stuff was hot, however for so = many stalls and to be at three separate boot sales makes me wonder? in = case your wondering yes! I bought a shed load. I was wondering if at these prices the stuff was hot, however for so many stalls and to be at three separate boot sales makes me wonder? in case your wondering yes! I bought a shed load.
lugnet.loc.uk:6580 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 40 Lines: 32 30,31c31 > > So what sort of thing are they selling? Anything like the full range?= > > So what sort of thing are they selling? Anything like the full range? 34,39c34,36 > = > Verr poorly stocked. Only items of interest at Bromley are the 7171 Pod= Race > sets, now down to =A328. Droid ships are =A32, but nobody wants them! O= ther > > Verr poorly stocked. Only items of interest at Bromley are the 7171 Pod Race > sets, now down to £28. Droid ships are £2, but nobody wants them! Other 41,42c38 > = > 45,46c41 > > > Bromley branch closes next weekend (26 May). Last week, their Blue = Cross > > > Bromley branch closes next weekend (26 May). Last week, their Blue Cross 49,50c44 > > > Croydon will be the last branch to close down, sometime in August. = I > > > Croydon will be the last branch to close down, sometime in August. I 52,53c46 > > > guess that all the other branch stock will be transferred there as = each > > > guess that all the other branch stock will be transferred there as each
lugnet.loc.uk:6585 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 15 Lines: 12 20,21c21 There is 2 918 on a french version of Ebay. Both of them are around =A310= =2E There is 2 918 on a french version of Ebay. Both of them are around £10. 27,30c27,28 If you need help or would like to bid (? not sure about this) on it, send= me an e-mail. and I will telle you where to go with a translation of the offer.= If you need help or would like to bid (? not sure about this) on it, send me an e-mail. and I will telle you where to go with a translation of the offer.
lugnet.loc.uk:7042 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 24 20,23c21,23 > = > "Gael FRAZIER" <gael@e-sax.com> wrote in message news:3B794AA0.C4A5799F= @e-sax.com... > > "Gael FRAZIER" <gael@e-sax.com> wrote in message > news:3B794AA0.C4A5799F@e-sax.com... 28,31c28,31 > Je suis heureux de voir que les coll=E8gues fran=E7ais de UKAFOL viendr= ont au TVLF2001. > Que diriez-vous d'un certain MOC avec une saveur fran=E7aise? > La tour d'eiffel peut-=EAtre? > Je suis heureux de voir que les collègues français de UKAFOL viendront au > TVLF2001. > Que diriez-vous d'un certain MOC avec une saveur française? > La tour d'eiffel peut-être? 33,34c33 Eh eh eh, Bientot les rencontres LEGO en Angleterre seront en Francais !!= ! Eh eh eh, Bientot les rencontres LEGO en Angleterre seront en Francais !!! 36,37c35 I'm quite surprise that so many person speak French ! How do you want me = to I'm quite surprise that so many person speak French ! How do you want me to 41,44c39,40 I don't know if I will have enough time / parts to built a "little" Eiffe= l Tour, but I will try. That's a good idea. Plus with the RCX I may be = I don't know if I will have enough time / parts to built a "little" Eiffel Tour, but I will try. That's a good idea. Plus with the RCX I may be
lugnet.loc.uk:7068 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 44 Lines: 35 27,28c28 > = > 30,35c30,32 > = > Is anyone going from/via the London area? And if so, would they min= d > helping me and a bag o' lego get to Crowthorne? I can offer help with p= etrol > > Is anyone going from/via the London area? And if so, would they mind > helping me and a bag o' lego get to Crowthorne? I can offer help with petrol 37,40c34,35 > = > Failing that, Lawrence - what's the easiest way to get to Crowthorn= e by > > Failing that, Lawrence - what's the easiest way to get to Crowthorne by 42,43c37 > = > 46,48c40,41 -- = Kenavo ar c'henta=F1. -- Kenavo ar c'hentañ. 50,51c43 Je certifie qu'aucun electron n'a ete blesse lors du transport de ce mess= age. Je certifie qu'aucun electron n'a ete blesse lors du transport de ce message.
lugnet.loc.uk:7306 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 23 Lines: 16 25,26c26 > = > 28,31c28,29 > offering =A35 off admission to LLW for a 'Fireworks and Fantasy' show o= n > Friday the 6th of November. I can't find any reference to this on Lego= =2Ecom > offering £5 off admission to LLW for a 'Fireworks and Fantasy' show on > Friday the 6th of November. I can't find any reference to this on Lego.com 33,40c31,34 > = > The coupon is valid for up to 6 people. The gates close at 6pm and the= show > starts at 6.30. Has anyone else heard of this? Is anyone planning to = go? > = > > The coupon is valid for up to 6 people. The gates close at 6pm and the show > starts at 6.30. Has anyone else heard of this? Is anyone planning to go? >
lugnet.loc.uk:7464 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,23 > there's loads of LEGO there now), the castle seems to be going for =A31= 00-120, > with some having a buy-it-now price of =A3175! > there's loads of LEGO there now), the castle seems to be going for £100-120, > with some having a buy-it-now price of £175! 26c26 There are 2 csatle to sell, one for =A3100 and the other one for =A350. There are 2 csatle to sell, one for £100 and the other one for £50. 30d29
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lugnet.loc.uk:7627 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 43c44 >=3D> put your name here >=> put your name here
lugnet.loc.uk:7631 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 21 Lines: 15 20,31c21,27 I think my local Woolworth mixed the 1/2 price on the 7124 with the 7144 = (boba=20 Fett ship). I bought the 3 left one and then went to Aldders to check the= "real"=20 price : =A317.99 .... I just bought mine in France during X-mas holidays for 149.90 FRF (around= =A315 or=20 22.85 Euro). I did not opened it yet, and I will try to exchange it in th= e shop=20 pretending it was for a cousin that already had it... I may work... usual= ly the=20 I think my local Woolworth mixed the 1/2 price on the 7124 with the 7144 (boba Fett ship). I bought the 3 left one and then went to Aldders to check the "real" price : £17.99 .... I just bought mine in France during X-mas holidays for 149.90 FRF (around £15 or 22.85 Euro). I did not opened it yet, and I will try to exchange it in the shop pretending it was for a cousin that already had it... I may work... usually the 34,35c30 So I will keep at least one for me, and I have another one (or 2 to sell)= =2E FIFS=20 So I will keep at least one for me, and I have another one (or 2 to sell). FIFS 39d33
lugnet.loc.uk:7786 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Forget 3033 get one one of these 5800 Piece boxes! = Forget 3033 get one one of these 5800 Piece boxes!
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lugnet.loc.uk:7938 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 26 Lines: 24 21,24c22,24 As per Mark Morgan's suggestion RE: holding a sorting/minifest, I have = finally persuaded the wife to agree to a small gathering. (Huw was = witness to the agreement!) and its on the proviso that I sell a bit of = stuff???? As per Mark Morgan's suggestion RE: holding a sorting/minifest, I have finally persuaded the wife to agree to a small gathering. (Huw was witness to the agreement!) and its on the proviso that I sell a bit of stuff???? 26,28c26,27 Anyway I'm not sure what people have in their diaries or what the nest = event dates? but how does mid July sound? if not it would have to be in = May? Anyway I'm not sure what people have in their diaries or what the nest event dates? but how does mid July sound? if not it would have to be in May? 30,31c29,30 PLMK if who of the regulars is interested, as amoung other things we can = discuss the train baseboards, the LLW show etc. PLMK if who of the regulars is interested, as amoung other things we can discuss the train baseboards, the LLW show etc.
lugnet.loc.uk:7942 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 42 Lines: 40 21c22 Funny, I was thinking of doing exactly the same thing but a little=20 Funny, I was thinking of doing exactly the same thing but a little 29c30 It's not a very big fest as I was planning to hold it in my flat=20 It's not a very big fest as I was planning to hold it in my flat 32,33c33,34 Is anyone interested ? If it's saturday I can get "day parking=20 permit" for =A32.50. Is anyone interested ? If it's saturday I can get "day parking permit" for £2.50. 42,54c43,53 >=20 > As per Mark Morgan's suggestion RE: holding a sorting/minifest, I have = finally persuaded the wife to agree to a small gathering. (Huw was witnes= s to the agreement!) and its on the proviso that I sell a bit of stuff???= ? >=20 > Anyway I'm not sure what people have in their diaries or what the nest = event dates? but how does mid July sound? if not it would have to be in M= ay? >=20 > PLMK if who of the regulars is interested, as amoung other things we ca= n discuss the train baseboards, the LLW show etc. >=20 > > As per Mark Morgan's suggestion RE: holding a sorting/minifest, I have finally > persuaded the wife to agree to a small gathering. (Huw was witness to the > agreement!) and its on the proviso that I sell a bit of stuff???? > > Anyway I'm not sure what people have in their diaries or what the nest event > dates? but how does mid July sound? if not it would have to be in May? > > PLMK if who of the regulars is interested, as amoung other things we can > discuss the train baseboards, the LLW show etc. > 56c55 >=20 > 58,61c57,59 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > >
lugnet.loc.uk:7968 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Thanks for all who have shown an interest so far, however it would = appear that July is slightly more favourable, therefore I am looking at = the weekend of 21/22 July.=20 Thanks for all who have shown an interest so far, however it would appear that July is slightly more favourable, therefore I am looking at the weekend of 21/22 July. 23,24c24,25 Is anyone unhappy if we had a sunday? only its my birthday on the 19th = and so I'll be having a late one the night before? Is anyone unhappy if we had a sunday? only its my birthday on the 19th and so I'll be having a late one the night before?
lugnet.loc.uk:8063 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Anyone seen this? - = http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1725357929 = absolute madness! Anyone seen this? - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1725357929 absolute madness!
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lugnet.loc.uk:8086 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Does anyone in the UK have this set? more so is anyone willing to split = the orange life-rings only I need a few for the LLW project. Does anyone in the UK have this set? more so is anyone willing to split the orange life-rings only I need a few for the LLW project.
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lugnet.loc.us.ca.la:187 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 By chance is anyone traveling from or through the Redondo Beach area on=20 By chance is anyone traveling from or through the Redondo Beach area on 22c23 I'm at Henry Lim's place in Redondo Beach. I figure I have three=20 I'm at Henry Lim's place in Redondo Beach. I figure I have three 34d34
lugnet.loc.us.ca.la:188 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 I'm having a total blast here at BricksWest meeting people and=20 I'm having a total blast here at BricksWest meeting people and 25c26 After BricksWest I'm actually going to be hanging around in SoCal for a=20 After BricksWest I'm actually going to be hanging around in SoCal for a 28c29 While I'm here, I'd like to meet with as many people as I can, in=20 While I'm here, I'd like to meet with as many people as I can, in 31c32 http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=3D1961 (announcement) http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=1961 (announcement) 34c35 If you do a lot of building, and this sounds interesting to you, let's=20 If you do a lot of building, and this sounds interesting to you, let's 37,42c38,43 Henry Lim has graciously offered to put me up at his place in the event=20 that if I don't find other places to stay, and/or shuttle me around if=20 needed (wow!), but I'd hate for him to have to put up with me for=20 several more days. :-) (I took 700 photos last week Thursday and=20 Friday of his gigantic stagasaurus and his incredible harpsichord,=20 including about 50 inside the belly (which is how I got this cool gnash=20 Henry Lim has graciously offered to put me up at his place in the event that if I don't find other places to stay, and/or shuttle me around if needed (wow!), but I'd hate for him to have to put up with me for several more days. :-) (I took 700 photos last week Thursday and Friday of his gigantic stagasaurus and his incredible harpsichord, including about 50 inside the belly (which is how I got this cool gnash 45,47c46,48 Anyway, holy cow, there are so many great creations here in SoCal! From=20 Daniel Jassim's space ships, to Bryce McGlone's and Dave Johann's mecha,=20 to Brad Hamilton's underwater cities, all of the SCLTC stuff, and so=20 Anyway, holy cow, there are so many great creations here in SoCal! From Daniel Jassim's space ships, to Bryce McGlone's and Dave Johann's mecha, to Brad Hamilton's underwater cities, all of the SCLTC stuff, and so 50c51 I think I'm catching a ride back up to the LA area tomorrow with Scott=20 I think I'm catching a ride back up to the LA area tomorrow with Scott 53c54 So hey! Drop me a line a this e-mail address <tsl@tsl.bu.edu> if you're=20 So hey! Drop me a line a this e-mail address <tsl@tsl.bu.edu> if you're 58,59c59,60 p.s. I had the opportunity to chat briefly with Brad Justus at=20 BricksWest this morning. He likes the idea of the book and offered=20 p.s. I had the opportunity to chat briefly with Brad Justus at BricksWest this morning. He likes the idea of the book and offered 61d61
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:60 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 71 Lines: 66 19c20 LEGO=AE Set Review Form V2.1 LEGO® Set Review Form V2.1 21,22c22 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 32,35c32 This set builds a large crawler that transports the shuttle with its booste= r rockets and fuel tank. It also has a small control building. All alterna= te models are space shuttles and buildings. It is similar to 6456 Mission Co= ntrol. This set builds a large crawler that transports the shuttle with its booster rockets and fuel tank. It also has a small control building. All alternate models are space shuttles and buildings. It is similar to 6456 Mission Control. 37,39c34,35 This set features many special elements. There are literally too many to l= ist. The elements I first noticed were the large assemblies the treads are b= uilt on. This set features many special elements. There are literally too many to list. The elements I first noticed were the large assemblies the treads are built on. 41,45c37,41 Originally when I heard about Best-Lock and visited their web page, I was i= nterested in their sets. But, If you looked at their prices, they were ridic= ulously overpriced. I waited to hear reviews from other r.t.l.'ers, but ther= e weren't any. Then, when I saw it at their sets at Target=AE, I knew I had to= get one to try, especially after my post got such attention. Originally when I heard about Best-Lock and visited their web page, I was interested in their sets. But, If you looked at their prices, they were ridiculously overpriced. I waited to hear reviews from other r.t.l.'ers, but there weren't any. Then, when I saw it at their sets at Target®, I knew I had to get one to try, especially after my post got such attention. 47,49c43,45 This set was rated good because it is overall a well put together package. = However, you get what you pay for. If you compare it to 6456 Mission Control= , Mission Control is a better set. And you pay for the better quality. This set was rated good because it is overall a well put together package. However, you get what you pay for. If you compare it to 6456 Mission Control, Mission Control is a better set. And you pay for the better quality. 51,53c47,49 This set was rated very-good because it is designed very well. The models a= re realistic looking. There are no decals or printing to clutter it up. Unfo= rtunately, space shuttles are not a new design. This set was rated very-good because it is designed very well. The models are realistic looking. There are no decals or printing to clutter it up. Unfortunately, space shuttles are not a new design. 55,58c51,54 The playability is very poor. It doesn't stay together for beans. I had to = put the crawler together ten times before I had it stable enough to move. Th= e shuttle is playable, however the bay door is hard to close. The booster ro= ckets fall apart, and the building isn't very stable. The playability is very poor. It doesn't stay together for beans. I had to put the crawler together ten times before I had it stable enough to move. The shuttle is playable, however the bay door is hard to close. The booster rockets fall apart, and the building isn't very stable. 60,61c56,57 I really like the models. However, I like space shuttle sets anyway. See Sc= ale and Errors for my dislikes. I really like the models. However, I like space shuttle sets anyway. See Scale and Errors for my dislikes. 63,65c59,61 Very large downfall of this set: the space shuttle isn't minifig scale. It = was not designed for a figure to ride in. Also, there aren't any controls on= the crawler for driving. Very large downfall of this set: the space shuttle isn't minifig scale. It was not designed for a figure to ride in. Also, there aren't any controls on the crawler for driving. 67,71c63,67 My set was missing one piece, a 1x6 black brick. The set states, "This prod= uct can be used with other brands." This statement is true. While it can be = used with LEGO=AE, it is not compatible. The plates are too thick and the bric= ks are too short. However, you can attach the two brands together. I DO NOT = recommend mixing it with LEGO=AE. My set was missing one piece, a 1x6 black brick. The set states, "This product can be used with other brands." This statement is true. While it can be used with LEGO®, it is not compatible. The plates are too thick and the bricks are too short. However, you can attach the two brands together. I DO NOT recommend mixing it with LEGO®. 73,74c69,70 There were seven extra pieces: (1) 1x8 black plate; (1) 1x2 white tile; (5)= 1x1 red plates. There were seven extra pieces: (1) 1x8 black plate; (1) 1x2 white tile; (5) 1x1 red plates. 76,78c72,74 I recommend this set if you want to create a display or diorama, but I do n= ot recommend it to mix with LEGO=AE. It is a nice, accurate depiction of a spa= ce shuttle, and makes a fine model. I recommend this set if you want to create a display or diorama, but I do not recommend it to mix with LEGO®. It is a nice, accurate depiction of a space shuttle, and makes a fine model. 83c79 I buy LEGO=AE sets based on how they fit into my city, Paradise City. I buy LEGO® sets based on how they fit into my city, Paradise City. 90d85
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:68 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 72 Lines: 64 19,20c20 Zonker and I have been brainstorming ideas for a local LEGO=AE users group. W= e Zonker and I have been brainstorming ideas for a local LEGO® users group. We 22,23c22 happen, ie webmaster, etc. We are also looking for brainstorming from other= s happen, ie webmaster, etc. We are also looking for brainstorming from others 35,36c34 May - Space / Aquazone - This would be a space / aquazone based meet. We ca= n May - Space / Aquazone - This would be a space / aquazone based meet. We can 38,39c36 August - Technic / Robotics - This would be a Technic / robotics based meet= . August - Technic / Robotics - This would be a Technic / robotics based meet. 43,44c40 the meet. This would include finding a meeting place, arranging the time an= d the meet. This would include finding a meeting place, arranging the time and 53,54c49 placed on the web for downloading. It will create an archive of back issues= . placed on the web for downloading. It will create an archive of back issues. 59,60c54 membership fees will go towards registration costs and maintaining the name= . membership fees will go towards registration costs and maintaining the name. 76,77c70 I personally don't want to see a formal leadership, but some people prefer = a I personally don't want to see a formal leadership, but some people prefer a 91d83
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:69 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 72 Lines: 64 22,23c23 Zonker and I have been brainstorming ideas for a local LEGO=AE users group. W= e Zonker and I have been brainstorming ideas for a local LEGO® users group. We 25,26c25 happen, ie webmaster, etc. We are also looking for brainstorming from other= s happen, ie webmaster, etc. We are also looking for brainstorming from others 38,39c37 May - Space / Aquazone - This would be a space / aquazone based meet. We ca= n May - Space / Aquazone - This would be a space / aquazone based meet. We can 41,42c39 August - Technic / Robotics - This would be a Technic / robotics based meet= . August - Technic / Robotics - This would be a Technic / robotics based meet. 46,47c43 the meet. This would include finding a meeting place, arranging the time an= d the meet. This would include finding a meeting place, arranging the time and 56,57c52 placed on the web for downloading. It will create an archive of back issues= . placed on the web for downloading. It will create an archive of back issues. 62,63c57 membership fees will go towards registration costs and maintaining the name= . membership fees will go towards registration costs and maintaining the name. 79,80c73 I personally don't want to see a formal leadership, but some people prefer = a I personally don't want to see a formal leadership, but some people prefer a 94d86
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:468 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 68 Lines: 60 22,26c23,26 I know I won't be able to make either meeting as classes are ending = during that period and I'll need all my spare time to finish classwork. = I'm working Saturdays now and just can't afford to take the time off of = work. I also might be starting a new job that I have an interview for = tomorrow. Wish me luck! I know I won't be able to make either meeting as classes are ending during that period and I'll need all my spare time to finish classwork. I'm working Saturdays now and just can't afford to take the time off of work. I also might be starting a new job that I have an interview for tomorrow. Wish me luck! 29,31c29,31 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Stangl=20 To: ba-lego@cinnamon.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Stangl To: ba-lego@cinnamon.com 36,37c36,37 I won't be making the 11/27 meeting either, I forgot I'll be in SoCal = this week. I won't be making the 11/27 meeting either, I forgot I'll be in SoCal this week. 49,52c49,51 > >With Zonker's help, my wife Nancy and I reserved a meeting room at = the Newark > >library for December 4th, 10:00 am to 5:00 pm. Everyone is = welcome! > >With Zonker's help, my wife Nancy and I reserved a meeting room at the Newark > >library for December 4th, 10:00 am to 5:00 pm. Everyone is welcome! 54,55c53 > >Since this room is smaller and older than the Fremont library room, = it will > >Since this room is smaller and older than the Fremont library room, it will 57,64c55,59 > >be as comfortable as the Fremont library meeting on Nov 27, so I = urge that > >anyone who can make it to the Nov 27 meeting do so, and then come = to the > >Dec. 4th meeting too if you want to. And it's fine to bring big = stuff like > >train or monorail setups but if there's a big turnout don't plan on = being able > >be as comfortable as the Fremont library meeting on Nov 27, so I urge that > >anyone who can make it to the Nov 27 meeting do so, and then come to the > >Dec. 4th meeting too if you want to. And it's fine to bring big stuff like > >train or monorail setups but if there's a big turnout don't plan on being able 67,72c62,65 > Under further consideration, FWIW, I won't be coming to the 11/27 = meeting > after all, as it's just too busy a weekend :(. But I'm glad you = arranged one > for 12/4 which I do plan to attend :). I won't bring tons of stuff, = just what > Under further consideration, FWIW, I won't be coming to the 11/27 meeting > after all, as it's just too busy a weekend :(. But I'm glad you arranged one > for 12/4 which I do plan to attend :). I won't bring tons of stuff, just what
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:505 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 34 Lines: 30 22,25c23,25 Sounds like Space Police #6989 Mission Commander. One of the greatest = Space vehicles. Could be expensive to obtain ($100 and up) given the = highly regarded status of all Space Police I sets by spaceheads such as = me. Sounds like Space Police #6989 Mission Commander. One of the greatest Space vehicles. Could be expensive to obtain ($100 and up) given the highly regarded status of all Space Police I sets by spaceheads such as me. 28,30c28,30 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Janet Graff=20 To: ba-lego@cinnamon.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Graff To: ba-lego@cinnamon.com 35,40c35,37 I think at the meeting last saturday Roger and Russell told me the = number of the space ship that has the black ratchet track in the middle but I = can't remember the set name or number. Can you tell me again? It sounds = like a I think at the meeting last saturday Roger and Russell told me the number of the space ship that has the black ratchet track in the middle but I can't remember the set name or number. Can you tell me again? It sounds like a
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:544 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 172 Lines: 157 24,35c25,35 I hope that the second meeting went well and I'm hoping to be able to = get a room for us in the new Albany library sometime in February. I = still have lots of info to gather but that will have to wait until I = return from vacation in the beginning of January. Anyway, I'm sure many of you saw my posts on RTL and Lugnet about the = problems I was having with Andrew Gaul. Well, I FINALLY received a = check from him in the mail today. It remains to be seen whether it will = bounce (I hope not, I really want this to be over!). However, I just = wanted to give all of you the information I have regarding this person's = lack of responsibility and to urge everyone to warn your other internet = Lego friends to avoid dealing with him. I hope that the second meeting went well and I'm hoping to be able to get a room for us in the new Albany library sometime in February. I still have lots of info to gather but that will have to wait until I return from vacation in the beginning of January. Anyway, I'm sure many of you saw my posts on RTL and Lugnet about the problems I was having with Andrew Gaul. Well, I FINALLY received a check from him in the mail today. It remains to be seen whether it will bounce (I hope not, I really want this to be over!). However, I just wanted to give all of you the information I have regarding this person's lack of responsibility and to urge everyone to warn your other internet Lego friends to avoid dealing with him. 37,38c37,38 Forgive me for the length of this e-mail, but I just don't want anyone = else to have to through this kind of crapola! Forgive me for the length of this e-mail, but I just don't want anyone else to have to through this kind of crapola! 40,41c40,41 Below is the e-mail which I sent to Andrew after I found out he was = still at his present address: Below is the e-mail which I sent to Andrew after I found out he was still at his present address: 46,47c46,47 Here is the chronological order of e-mails I have which show the = beginning of our problem: Here is the chronological order of e-mails I have which show the beginning of our problem: 49,60c49,59 Saturday, June 5,1999 - You said you received my package and I should be = getting yours in the next few days. I responded to say it was not here = yet but I would let you know when it did. Wednesday, June 16, 1999 - I e-mailed you to say that your package had = not yet arrived. Saturday, June 19, 1999 - You said you were away on business and were = surprised to hear that the package had not arrived. You said you had = bought extra insurance on the package and would look into the problem on = Monday. You said if you couldn't get it straightened out, you said you = would return my set to me. Saturday, June 5,1999 - You said you received my package and I should be getting yours in the next few days. I responded to say it was not here yet but I would let you know when it did. Wednesday, June 16, 1999 - I e-mailed you to say that your package had not yet arrived. Saturday, June 19, 1999 - You said you were away on business and were surprised to hear that the package had not arrived. You said you had bought extra insurance on the package and would look into the problem on Monday. You said if you couldn't get it straightened out, you said you would return my set to me. 62c61 Friday, June 25, 1999 - I e-mailed you to say it was good you had bought = Friday, June 25, 1999 - I e-mailed you to say it was good you had bought 65,123c64,65 Monday, July 5, 1999 - I e-mailed you saying I hadn't heard from you in = awhile and asked how things were going and whether you had any new = information. Wednesday, July 14, 1999 - I e-mailed you again saying I had received no = response to my previous e-mails asking for an update on the situation. = I stated that you should have had the courtesy to let me know if you = were going away on business so I would not worry about getting no = further correspondence from you. I received no updates or any correspondence of any kind from you after = Saturday, June 19, 1999. When I finally called at the end of August and = got you on the phone, you said you had been away on vacation and would = return my set to me immediately. Then you sent me another e-mail: Thursday, September 2, 1999 - You said I should be receiving the set = very shortly and I should let you know when it arrives. You apologized = for responding so late as you had been away without access to e-mail. =20 Sunday, September 26, 1999 - I e-mailed you saying I had not received = the set yet and asked you to please let me know what you could find out. = You did not respond. Thursday, October 7, 1999 - I e-mailed you again asking about the set = which you said you sent over three weeks ago. I said I would take legal = action if you did not respond. You did not respond. So, there you have it. After September 2, 1999, I received no further = communication with you. The set never arrived and you made no further = attempt to contact me to insure that it had. I will reiterate that you = should have had the courtesy to let me know that you were going to out = of town and would not reachable by e-mail so I would not worry about = getting no response from you. The fact that you did not do this made me = very suspicious. What am I supposed to do without any updates from you = of any kind? You might disagree with my actions on the newsgroups, but = from my perspective it was the only option I had left to get your = attention. Regarding the mail problem, I sent the registered letter to the exact = same address as the set which you said you received. When the letter = was returned with the box checked indicating that the person had moved = and future address was unknown, I feared the worst. Without any further = contact from you, I had to assume that the set was stolen and I would = never get it back. When I decided to try your number one more time and = your roommate said you still lived there, I assumed that someone lied to = the post office. Who talked to the postman and why was the letter not = accepted? You obviously hadn't moved and your roommate knows you live = there. Why wasn't some arrangement made by you to keep me apprised of = your availability? If you spend a lot of time away from this address, = why not ask someone (like your roommate) to keep people updated as to = your schedule since you yourself will not be unable to respond = personally? I found this lack of an attempt on your part to stay in = current communication with me very upsetting. =20 If you want to FedEx me a check (for $40) that would be fine and we can = consider the matter closed. However, I think it would behoove you in = the future to make arrangements to be more accessible while you are = away. This whole mess might have been avoided if you had taken that = initiative. =20 Monday, July 5, 1999 - I e-mailed you saying I hadn't heard from you in awhile and asked how things were going and whether you had any new information. 125,126c67,120 BTW, I have all the above e-mails available on my hard drive. If you = would like hard copies, let me know and I'll send them to you. Wednesday, July 14, 1999 - I e-mailed you again saying I had received no response to my previous e-mails asking for an update on the situation. I stated that you should have had the courtesy to let me know if you were going away on business so I would not worry about getting no further correspondence from you. I received no updates or any correspondence of any kind from you after Saturday, June 19, 1999. When I finally called at the end of August and got you on the phone, you said you had been away on vacation and would return my set to me immediately. Then you sent me another e-mail: Thursday, September 2, 1999 - You said I should be receiving the set very shortly and I should let you know when it arrives. You apologized for responding so late as you had been away without access to e-mail. Sunday, September 26, 1999 - I e-mailed you saying I had not received the set yet and asked you to please let me know what you could find out. You did not respond. Thursday, October 7, 1999 - I e-mailed you again asking about the set which you said you sent over three weeks ago. I said I would take legal action if you did not respond. You did not respond. So, there you have it. After September 2, 1999, I received no further communication with you. The set never arrived and you made no further attempt to contact me to insure that it had. I will reiterate that you should have had the courtesy to let me know that you were going to out of town and would not reachable by e-mail so I would not worry about getting no response from you. The fact that you did not do this made me very suspicious. What am I supposed to do without any updates from you of any kind? You might disagree with my actions on the newsgroups, but from my perspective it was the only option I had left to get your attention. Regarding the mail problem, I sent the registered letter to the exact same address as the set which you said you received. When the letter was returned with the box checked indicating that the person had moved and future address was unknown, I feared the worst. Without any further contact from you, I had to assume that the set was stolen and I would never get it back. When I decided to try your number one more time and your roommate said you still lived there, I assumed that someone lied to the post office. Who talked to the postman and why was the letter not accepted? You obviously hadn't moved and your roommate knows you live there. Why wasn't some arrangement made by you to keep me apprised of your availability? If you spend a lot of time away from this address, why not ask someone (like your roommate) to keep people updated as to your schedule since you yourself will not be unable to respond personally? I found this lack of an attempt on your part to stay in current communication with me very upsetting. If you want to FedEx me a check (for $40) that would be fine and we can consider the matter closed. However, I think it would behoove you in the future to make arrangements to be more accessible while you are away. This whole mess might have been avoided if you had taken that initiative. BTW, I have all the above e-mails available on my hard drive. If you would like hard copies, let me know and I'll send them to you. 136,141c130,134 I received several e-mails from Andrew (which came from an e-mail = address other than the one I had been provided with) in which he claimed = innocence and expressed irritation at my posting all his information on = the newsgroup. I really didn't care at this point because it seemed to = the only way to get him to contact me. This is the last e-mail he sent = to me: I received several e-mails from Andrew (which came from an e-mail address other than the one I had been provided with) in which he claimed innocence and expressed irritation at my posting all his information on the newsgroup. I really didn't care at this point because it seemed to the only way to get him to contact me. This is the last e-mail he sent to me: 146,150c139,141 On Friday upon my return I will gladly send you a cheque FedEx, = overnight. =20 I'm pretty sure they deliver on the weekend, but if they dont, by Monday = the=20 matter will be closed. Hopefully in the future such incidents will not=20 On Friday upon my return I will gladly send you a cheque FedEx, overnight. I'm pretty sure they deliver on the weekend, but if they dont, by Monday the matter will be closed. Hopefully in the future such incidents will not 153,161c144,148 As for you letter I have not moved and never have from my address, nor = do I=20 intend to anytime soon, so I do not know why your letter was not = delivered. And no, I do not lie to the post office about my whereabouts so I can = commit=20 mail fraud over Lego that are worth a few paltry dollars. I would as = they=20 As for you letter I have not moved and never have from my address, nor do I intend to anytime soon, so I do not know why your letter was not delivered. And no, I do not lie to the post office about my whereabouts so I can commit mail fraud over Lego that are worth a few paltry dollars. I would as they 168,178c155,164 I find the last paragraph most telling. Not only did he regard my = stolen property as being worth only "a few paltry dollars" (I should've = asked for $60 instead of $40!), but in the last sentence he practically = admits to the crime in an indirect but eyebrow-raising way. Anyway, I = just wanted everyone to have this information. I didn't want to post to = the newsgroups again. I figured it would be better if we just pass the = word along to all our friends through our own private e-mail channels so = that this person will not cause anyone else any aggravation. BTW, the = check did not arrive FedEx, but in an envelope inside another envelope, = as though he didn't want whoever was mailing the check for him to know = what the matter was all about. I find the last paragraph most telling. Not only did he regard my stolen property as being worth only "a few paltry dollars" (I should've asked for $60 instead of $40!), but in the last sentence he practically admits to the crime in an indirect but eyebrow-raising way. Anyway, I just wanted everyone to have this information. I didn't want to post to the newsgroups again. I figured it would be better if we just pass the word along to all our friends through our own private e-mail channels so that this person will not cause anyone else any aggravation. BTW, the check did not arrive FedEx, but in an envelope inside another envelope, as though he didn't want whoever was mailing the check for him to know what the matter was all about.
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:724 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 60 Lines: 55 22,31c23,31 I'm coming mainly to trade and I'll be bringing a large box of trade = stuff. Space parts, blue tracks and magnetic couplings, Throwbot parts = and their storage boxes, a few baseplates, a 99% complete #8412, a 100% = complete Blacktron Alienator (no box or instructions), and a 90% = complete #6399. I'll also be bringing some display items, such as my newly expanded, = three-masted BSB (no sails yet), along with an Islander = treehouse/fortress, and my custom dual Space Shuttle launch pad with = twenty-eight 2x2x5 red girder pieces! I'm coming mainly to trade and I'll be bringing a large box of trade stuff. Space parts, blue tracks and magnetic couplings, Throwbot parts and their storage boxes, a few baseplates, a 99% complete #8412, a 100% complete Blacktron Alienator (no box or instructions), and a 90% complete #6399. I'll also be bringing some display items, such as my newly expanded, three-masted BSB (no sails yet), along with an Islander treehouse/fortress, and my custom dual Space Shuttle launch pad with twenty-eight 2x2x5 red girder pieces! 34,36c34,36 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Stangl=20 To: ba-lego@cinnamon.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Stangl To: ba-lego@cinnamon.com 41,44c41,42 Is anyone bringing Trade parts? I need to know whether I should try = to cram any trade pieces into the car around Mike's 18 double-packed blue = tubs. Is anyone bringing Trade parts? I need to know whether I should try to cram any trade pieces into the car around Mike's 18 double-packed blue tubs. 55,58c53,54 > I will be bringing a Xerox paper box full of 6-wide rolling stock, = as well > as a few buildings. I am also going to bring a rough diagram of the = Town > I will be bringing a Xerox paper box full of 6-wide rolling stock, as well > as a few buildings. I am also going to bring a rough diagram of the Town 63c59 > http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/?m=3D130 > http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/?m=130
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:742 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 29,30c30 Who was it that I traded the 1X4 trans yellow pieces with. I need to = talk Who was it that I traded the 1X4 trans yellow pieces with. I need to talk
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:903 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 49 Lines: 46 24,26c25,26 I'd love to trade into the box, but I'm up in Albany. Is there = someplace where we could possibly meet? BTW, I still have those parts = you wanted. I'd love to trade into the box, but I'm up in Albany. Is there someplace where we could possibly meet? BTW, I still have those parts you wanted. 29,31c29,31 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Stangl=20 To: ba-lego@cinnamon.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Stangl To: ba-lego@cinnamon.com 36,39c36,37 Paul Sinasohn traded into it, Russell Clark has decided to just wait = until Kidvention. Noone else so far (there's some GOOD stuff in here, = people, I Paul Sinasohn traded into it, Russell Clark has decided to just wait until Kidvention. Noone else so far (there's some GOOD stuff in here, people, I
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:978 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 155 Lines: 124 19,20c20 Here it is without the powerpoint formatting, as LUGNET will not accept = it Here it is without the powerpoint formatting, as LUGNET will not accept it 27c27 Welcome to our Layout Exhibit=20 Welcome to our Layout Exhibit 34,51c34,42 LEGO=AE has been producing train sets for more than 35 years and have = gone through many changes. The very first train was released in 1965 but = didn't run on track, it had ordinary road wheels. In 1966 they introduced the = first sets with track and battery powered motors. Lego Trains are usually = divided into three groups based on their operating voltage, but are all = compatible to a certain extent. They all run on the same gauge track, measuring = just over 4 Lego studs internally. 4.5V battery trains and 12V electric = trains were available concurrently through 1992 when the 9V "age" began. Most = Lego train sets are sold in stores for the holidays, or as components all = year LEGO® has been producing train sets for more than 35 years and have gone through many changes. The very first train was released in 1965 but didn't run on track, it had ordinary road wheels. In 1966 they introduced the first sets with track and battery powered motors. Lego Trains are usually divided into three groups based on their operating voltage, but are all compatible to a certain extent. They all run on the same gauge track, measuring just over 4 Lego studs internally. 4.5V battery trains and 12V electric trains were available concurrently through 1992 when the 9V "age" began. Most Lego train sets are sold in stores for the holidays, or as components all year 56,65c47,51 classic toy trains of the early 20th century in that they cannot, and = are not intended to, be exact scale replicas of prototype equipment. They = are however a significant challenge to both build and operate, and involve = a greater degree of scratch building than most commercial scale model = railroad kits. What you see displayed are not stock "out-of-the-box" Lego train = sets, classic toy trains of the early 20th century in that they cannot, and are not intended to, be exact scale replicas of prototype equipment. They are however a significant challenge to both build and operate, and involve a greater degree of scratch building than most commercial scale model railroad kits. What you see displayed are not stock "out-of-the-box" Lego train sets, 67,70c53,54 built by the members of BAYLTC and their friends and families from = standard Lego bricks without ANY instructions. If you think this is easy, we = invite built by the members of BAYLTC and their friends and families from standard Lego bricks without ANY instructions. If you think this is easy, we invite 74,79c58,61 Provide an environment for Lego and Lego train enthusiasts of all ages = to meet and share.=20 Provide an opportunity to display, operate and trade Lego, Lego trains = and ideas.=20 Provide an environment for Lego and Lego train enthusiasts of all ages to meet and share. Provide an opportunity to display, operate and trade Lego, Lego trains and ideas. 84,91c66,69 BayLUG and BAYLTC are non-profit, independent groups of LEGO = enthusiasts. BAYLUG formed in 1998 from participants in newsgroups: Rec.Toys.LEGO = and LUGNET at the time of the LEGO 25th Anniversary Tour visit to San = Francisco. BAYLTC formed this year. BAYLUG and/or BAYLTC meets approximately = quarterly BayLUG and BAYLTC are non-profit, independent groups of LEGO enthusiasts. BAYLUG formed in 1998 from participants in newsgroups: Rec.Toys.LEGO and LUGNET at the time of the LEGO 25th Anniversary Tour visit to San Francisco. BAYLTC formed this year. BAYLUG and/or BAYLTC meets approximately quarterly 93,94c71 members and with the public. Thanks PNLTC and Matt Bates for some of = the members and with the public. Thanks PNLTC and Matt Bates for some of the 96,97c73 http://www.baylug.org/. Other excellent Lego train-related online = resources http://www.baylug.org/. Other excellent Lego train-related online resources 99,100c75 websites: http://www.baylug.org/train/#clubs, = http://www.lugnet.com/trains/, websites: http://www.baylug.org/train/#clubs, http://www.lugnet.com/trains/, 103c78 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/train_depot/ among others. =20 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/train_depot/ among others. 105,112c80,83 BAYLUG and BAYLTC are NOT sponsored or endorsed by the LEGO companies, = or the official LEGO homepage, www.lego.com., and vice-versa. LEGO=AE is = a trademark of the LEGO Group of companies which does not sponsor, = authorize or endorse BAYLUG, BAYLTC their activities or websites. It is the goal = of BAYLUG and BAYLTC are NOT sponsored or endorsed by the LEGO companies, or the official LEGO homepage, www.lego.com., and vice-versa. LEGO® is a trademark of the LEGO Group of companies which does not sponsor, authorize or endorse BAYLUG, BAYLTC their activities or websites. It is the goal of 114,115c85 "Fairplay" www page at http://www.lego.com/professionals/fair.asp! You = can "Fairplay" www page at http://www.lego.com/professionals/fair.asp! You can 121c91 > From: Benz, Mark=20 > From: Benz, Mark 123c93 > To: 'Russell Clark'; lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf@lugnet.com;=20 > To: 'Russell Clark'; lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf@lugnet.com; 129,130c99,100 >=20 >=20 > > 132,137c102,107 > I suggest you print it to get the right effect. It is a FULL=20 > page, with borders only when you print it. COMMENTS NEEDED=20 > ASAP! Particularly about our goals, in the "strive to"=20 > section, lifted and modified from PNLTC, and my own prose=20 > about the Exhibit. The history was lifted and compressed=20 > from Matt Bates Train Depot site. His permission has been=20 > I suggest you print it to get the right effect. It is a FULL > page, with borders only when you print it. COMMENTS NEEDED > ASAP! Particularly about our goals, in the "strive to" > section, lifted and modified from PNLTC, and my own prose > about the Exhibit. The history was lifted and compressed > from Matt Bates Train Depot site. His permission has been 140,142c110,112 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > 148,150c118,120 > >=20 > >=20 > > In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, "David K. Z. Harris"=20 > > > > > > In lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf, "David K. Z. Harris" 152c122 > > > I've seen a logo on the train car, but I think it is at=20 > > > I've seen a logo on the train car, but I think it is at 155,156c125,126 > >=20 > > I don't think the logo design was ever finalized. I got it=20 > > > > I don't think the logo design was ever finalized. I got it 158c128 > > revealed it. I started using it because I thought the group=20 > > revealed it. I started using it because I thought the group 161c131 > > The picture of the car I posted to Brickshelf was a=20 > > The picture of the car I posted to Brickshelf was a 163c133 > > feedback. I never got the chance to take other pictures of=20 > > feedback. I never got the chance to take other pictures of 165c135 > > my film from the Kidvention developed yet, so I don't have=20 > > my film from the Kidvention developed yet, so I don't have 168,170c138,140 > >=20 > > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D887 > >=20 > > > > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=887 > > 172,174c142,143 > >=20 >=20 > > >
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:979 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 74 Lines: 70 36c37 >LEGO=AE has been producing train sets for more than 35 years and have gone >LEGO® has been producing train sets for more than 35 years and have gone 38,39c39 >run on track, it had ordinary road wheels. In 1966 they introduced the firs= t >run on track, it had ordinary road wheels. In 1966 they introduced the first 53,56c53,54 >greater degree of scratch building than most commercial scale model railroa= d >kits. What you see displayed are not stock "out-of-the-box" Lego train sets= , >greater degree of scratch building than most commercial scale model railroad >kits. What you see displayed are not stock "out-of-the-box" Lego train sets, 62,63c60 > EVERYTHING ELSE you see was designed an= d > EVERYTHING ELSE you see was designed and 96,98d92
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:980 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 111 Lines: 109 24,25c25 Added "custom" before designed. Want to point out that it is all Lego, = and Added "custom" before designed. Want to point out that it is all Lego, and 36,38c36,38 >=20 >=20 > >Here it is without the powerpoint formatting, as LUGNET will=20 > > > >Here it is without the powerpoint formatting, as LUGNET will 53c53 > >LEGO=AE has been producing train sets for more than 35 years=20 > >LEGO® has been producing train sets for more than 35 years 55c55 > >through many changes. The very first train was released in=20 > >through many changes. The very first train was released in 57c57 > >run on track, it had ordinary road wheels. In 1966 they=20 > >run on track, it had ordinary road wheels. In 1966 they 59c59 > >sets with track and battery powered motors. Lego Trains are=20 > >sets with track and battery powered motors. Lego Trains are 61c61 > >into three groups based on their operating voltage, but are=20 > >into three groups based on their operating voltage, but are 63c63 > >to a certain extent. They all run on the same gauge track,=20 > >to a certain extent. They all run on the same gauge track, 65c65 > >over 4 Lego studs internally. 4.5V battery trains and 12V=20 > >over 4 Lego studs internally. 4.5V battery trains and 12V 67c67 > >were available concurrently through 1992 when the 9V "age"=20 > >were available concurrently through 1992 when the 9V "age" 69c69 > >train sets are sold in stores for the holidays, or as=20 > >train sets are sold in stores for the holidays, or as 74,76c74,75 > >Lego trains are toys, not models. They are similar in ambiance to = the > >classic toy trains of the early 20th century in that they=20 > >Lego trains are toys, not models. They are similar in ambiance to the > >classic toy trains of the early 20th century in that they 78c77 > >not intended to, be exact scale replicas of prototype=20 > >not intended to, be exact scale replicas of prototype 80c79 > >however a significant challenge to both build and operate,=20 > >however a significant challenge to both build and operate, 82c81 > >greater degree of scratch building than most commercial=20 > >greater degree of scratch building than most commercial 84c83 > >kits. What you see displayed are not stock "out-of-the-box"=20 > >kits. What you see displayed are not stock "out-of-the-box" 87c86 >=20 > 90,91c89,90 >=20 > > EVERYTHING ELSE you see=20 > > > EVERYTHING ELSE you see 93c92 > >built by the members of BAYLTC and their friends and=20 > >built by the members of BAYLTC and their friends and 95c94 > >Lego bricks without ANY instructions. If you think this is=20 > >Lego bricks without ANY instructions. If you think this is 98c97 >=20 > 100c99 >=20 > 102c101 >=20 > 104,105c103,104 >=20 > >Provide an environment for Lego and Lego train enthusiasts=20 > > >Provide an environment for Lego and Lego train enthusiasts 108c107 > >Provide an opportunity to display, operate and trade Lego,=20 > >Provide an opportunity to display, operate and trade Lego, 117c116 >=20 > 119c118 >=20 > 121c120 >=20 > 123c122 >=20 > 129,130c128 >=20 >
lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:1219 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 93 Lines: 70 34,35c35 BAYLUG and BAYLTC are non-profit, independent groups of LEGO = enthusiasts of BAYLUG and BAYLTC are non-profit, independent groups of LEGO enthusiasts of 43,50c43,47 Provide an environment for Lego and Lego train enthusiasts of all ages = to meet and share.=20 Provide an opportunity to display, operate and trade Lego, Lego trains = and ideas.=20 Promote Lego and Lego train building as a hobby in the SF Bay Area. Oh = yah, Provide an environment for Lego and Lego train enthusiasts of all ages to meet and share. Provide an opportunity to display, operate and trade Lego, Lego trains and ideas. Promote Lego and Lego train building as a hobby in the SF Bay Area. Oh yah, 54,55c51 Lego evolved a number of "themes" over the years. First was "basic", = just Lego evolved a number of "themes" over the years. First was "basic", just 57,58c53 "Town", (buildings, police, fire, race, flight, and variants) and = "Space". "Town", (buildings, police, fire, race, flight, and variants) and "Space". 60,61c55 discontinued, like Islanders, as time goes on. BAYLUG members are = active to discontinued, like Islanders, as time goes on. BAYLUG members are active to 64,65c58 followed by Town. A variety of themes are exhibited; feel free to = discuss followed by Town. A variety of themes are exhibited; feel free to discuss 69,88c62,71 LEGO has produced trains since 1965, divided into groups based on = voltage. 4.5V battery and 12VDC electric trains were available through 1992 when = the 9V "age" began. Lego train sets are sold for the holidays, or as = components all year at Lego Shop-at-Home. Lego trains are toys, not models. They = are similar to the classic toy trains of the early 20th century in that = they cannot, and are not intended to, be scale replicas of prototype = equipment. They are however a significant challenge to build and operate, and = involve a greater degree of scratch building than most commercial model railroad = kits. What you see are not "out-of-the-box" Lego train sets, only the track = and motors are. EVERYTHING else was CUSTOM DESIGNED AND BUILT by BAYLTC = members, LEGO has produced trains since 1965, divided into groups based on voltage. 4.5V battery and 12VDC electric trains were available through 1992 when the 9V "age" began. Lego train sets are sold for the holidays, or as components all year at Lego Shop-at-Home. Lego trains are toys, not models. They are similar to the classic toy trains of the early 20th century in that they cannot, and are not intended to, be scale replicas of prototype equipment. They are however a significant challenge to build and operate, and involve a greater degree of scratch building than most commercial model railroad kits. What you see are not "out-of-the-box" Lego train sets, only the track and motors are. EVERYTHING else was CUSTOM DESIGNED AND BUILT by BAYLTC members, 97,103c80,83 BAYLUG and BAYLTC are NOT sponsored or endorsed by the LEGO companies, = or the official LEGO homepage, www.lego.com, and vice-versa. LEGO=AE is a trademark of the LEGO Group of companies which does not sponsor, = authorize or endorse BAYLUG, BAYLTC, their activities or websites. It is the goal = of BAYLUG and BAYLTC are NOT sponsored or endorsed by the LEGO companies, or the official LEGO homepage, www.lego.com, and vice-versa. LEGO® is a trademark of the LEGO Group of companies which does not sponsor, authorize or endorse BAYLUG, BAYLTC, their activities or websites. It is the goal of 105,108c85,86 "Fairplay" www page at http://www.lego.com/professionals/fair.asp! You = can reach Lego Shop at Home at: 1-800-835-4386, just ask and they will send = you "Fairplay" www page at http://www.lego.com/professionals/fair.asp! You can reach Lego Shop at Home at: 1-800-835-4386, just ask and they will send you 111,112c89 mark=20 mark
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lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf:1771 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 26 Lines: 23 21c22 We will once again be holding a LEGO=AE building contest. The theme for this We will once again be holding a LEGO® building contest. The theme for this 23c24 the design of the car. A LEGO=AE Trains related prize will be given to the the design of the car. A LEGO® Trains related prize will be given to the 25,28c26,27 entries will be judged on creativity and functionality. This contest is ope= n to club members only, but a public audience is always welcome. One entry pe= r entries will be judged on creativity and functionality. This contest is open to club members only, but a public audience is always welcome. One entry per 31,32c30 The next BayLUG meeting is Saturday, May 18. Members only from 10-1, open t= o The next BayLUG meeting is Saturday, May 18. Members only from 10-1, open to 44,47d41
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lugnet.loc.us.il:143 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 22,26c23,27 I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend = (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, = and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its = getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we = should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: 30,35c31,35 PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for = Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or = Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. = If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over = 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact = with a small handful. PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact with a small handful. 37c37 --=20 -- 46d45
lugnet.loc.us.il:146 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 34 21,41c22,40 We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of = August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. = That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even = for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my = church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a = pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, = plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or = Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, = I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my = Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or = 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the = dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to = share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat = for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either = location). We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either location). 43,44c42,43 When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with = directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. 46c45 --=20 -- 55d53
lugnet.loc.us.in:107 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 22,26c23,27 I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend = (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, = and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its = getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we = should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: 30,35c31,35 PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for = Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or = Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. = If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over = 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact = with a small handful. PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact with a small handful. 37c37 --=20 -- 46d45
lugnet.loc.us.in:110 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 34 21,41c22,40 We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of = August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. = That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even = for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my = church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a = pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, = plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or = Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, = I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my = Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or = 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the = dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to = share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat = for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either = location). We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either location). 43,44c42,43 When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with = directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. 46c45 --=20 -- 55d53
lugnet.loc.us.mi:132 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 22,26c23,27 I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend = (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, = and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its = getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we = should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: 30,35c31,35 PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for = Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or = Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. = If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over = 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact = with a small handful. PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact with a small handful. 37c37 --=20 -- 46d45
lugnet.loc.us.mi:135 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 34 21,41c22,40 We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of = August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. = That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even = for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my = church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a = pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, = plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or = Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, = I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my = Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or = 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the = dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to = share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat = for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either = location). We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either location). 43,44c42,43 When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with = directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. 46c45 --=20 -- 55d53
lugnet.loc.us.oh:166 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 86 Lines: 70 43c44 >> Jorge Rodr=EDguez >> Jorge Rodríguez 45,46c46 >> A star (*) indicates that the person appears to be from out-of-town, th= at >> A star (*) indicates that the person appears to be from out-of-town, that 49,50c49 > Where exactly are the asterisk'd people from? I'm from Cleveland, but I = have > Where exactly are the asterisk'd people from? I'm from Cleveland, but I have 52,55c51,52 > fairly good sized house, which has a family room that would be very good = for a > BrikWars campaign. I'd be willing to host, but I doubt people are going = to > fairly good sized house, which has a family room that would be very good for a > BrikWars campaign. I'd be willing to host, but I doubt people are going to 60,63c57,58 >> I think I met a couple of you at Carolyn Cheney's place a couple of yea= rs >>ago. I was the guy with the family (wife and, at the time, 1 daughter) w= ho >> I think I met a couple of you at Carolyn Cheney's place a couple of years >>ago. I was the guy with the family (wife and, at the time, 1 daughter) who 66,69c61,62 > Don't you hate it when that happens? I dropped my technic scale P-51 bef= ore I > had taken pictures of it, and it busted into quite a few pieces. It took= me > Don't you hate it when that happens? I dropped my technic scale P-51 before I > had taken pictures of it, and it busted into quite a few pieces. It took me 77,78c70 >> There seems to be a consensus that we should have a fairly informal fir= st >> There seems to be a consensus that we should have a fairly informal first 80,81c72 >>such. Or for that matter, storyline. Why a re mech's attacking a mediev= al >>such. Or for that matter, storyline. Why a re mech's attacking a medieval 86,89c77,78 >> Any other thoughts anyone wants to share? I'm thinking we should post = an >>anouncement of our event in the other lugnet.loc.oh.* groups. Maybe in t= he >> Any other thoughts anyone wants to share? I'm thinking we should post an >>anouncement of our event in the other lugnet.loc.oh.* groups. Maybe in the 92,99c81,84 > Since the date of April 15th is faily well settled (I think) aside from o= ne > person who may not make it, the only real issue right now is where this'l= l > be. Do any of the Columbusites have a house big enough to host 5-6 peopl= e and > all the Lego? Will we have to rent a place? If the latter, how much wil= l it > Since the date of April 15th is faily well settled (I think) aside from one > person who may not make it, the only real issue right now is where this'll > be. Do any of the Columbusites have a house big enough to host 5-6 people and > all the Lego? Will we have to rent a place? If the latter, how much will it 105d89
lugnet.loc.us.oh:298 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 11 Lines: 6 18,22c19 I'm still alive. I killed myself mountain biking this weekend and was = too tired to make the trek out. And, quite honestly, I subscribe to = this as a mailing list since I don't have time to go to the website and = keep up with it all, but the amount of e-mails was just overwhelming me. = =20 I'm still alive. I killed myself mountain biking this weekend and was too tired to make the trek out. And, quite honestly, I subscribe to this as a mailing list since I don't have time to go to the website and keep up with it all, but the amount of e-mails was just overwhelming me. 27,29c24 BTW, Jorge had to work on the 15th -- whatever happened to Tiffany = Vincent? BTW, Jorge had to work on the 15th -- whatever happened to Tiffany Vincent?
lugnet.loc.us.wi:116 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 22,26c23,27 I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend = (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, = and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its = getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we = should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: 30,35c31,35 PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for = Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or = Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. = If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over = 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact = with a small handful. PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact with a small handful. 37c37 --=20 -- 46d45
lugnet.loc.us.wi:119 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 34 21,41c22,40 We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of = August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. = That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even = for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my = church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a = pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, = plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or = Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, = I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my = Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or = 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the = dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to = share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat = for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either = location). We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either location). 43,44c42,43 When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with = directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. 46c45 --=20 -- 55d53
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lugnet.market.appraisal:631 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 13 Lines: 10 19,22c20,21 I am so sorry to double post, but I forgot to list one more Lego= item I plan on selling soon. It's a Red Team Transport (3426), MISB= as I am so sorry to double post, but I forgot to list one more Lego item I plan on selling soon. It's a Red Team Transport (3426), MISB as 27,28c26 Thanks :) Sorry again about forgetting to put this with my last= Thanks :) Sorry again about forgetting to put this with my last 32d29
lugnet.market.auction:6903 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 13 19,27c20,24 > > "Buy The Brick" includes listings by set number and by set theme. Eit= her > >way you collect you will be pleased with the information. It is designed= for > >people to have a reference when purchasing LEGO=AE complete sets in an a= uction > >format and off the many internet web sites that offer LEGO=AE complete > >sets. "Buy The Brick" also includes articles and other features for the = LEGO=AE > > "Buy The Brick" includes listings by set number and by set theme. Either > >way you collect you will be pleased with the information. It is designed for > >people to have a reference when purchasing LEGO® complete sets in an auction > >format and off the many internet web sites that offer LEGO® complete > >sets. "Buy The Brick" also includes articles and other features for the LEGO® 29,33c26,28 >=20 > Yep. So much for the days of innocence. I wonder if this will cause price= s on > eBay to increase with more non-fans-of-the-brick speculating? Anyone goin= g to > > Yep. So much for the days of innocence. I wonder if this will cause prices on > eBay to increase with more non-fans-of-the-brick speculating? Anyone going to 36,37c31 Dan got one, i haven't finished going through my mail yet... if i get one, = i Dan got one, i haven't finished going through my mail yet... if i get one, i 39d32
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lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:7332 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 43 Lines: 41 22,23c23,24 strange downtime over the last few days. My e-mail is not working,=20 however, so if you have any qestions, feel free to e-mail this one. If=20 strange downtime over the last few days. My e-mail is not working, however, so if you have any qestions, feel free to e-mail this one. If 28,29c29,30 7151 Sith Infiltrator, 7144 Slave 1, the 7140 X-Wing, the 7134 A-Wing,=20 the 7131 Anakin's Podracer, the 7130 Snowspeeder, the 7128 Speedbikes,=20 7151 Sith Infiltrator, 7144 Slave 1, the 7140 X-Wing, the 7134 A-Wing, the 7131 Anakin's Podracer, the 7130 Snowspeeder, the 7128 Speedbikes, 31,32c32 7111 Droid Fighter, the 7110 Landspeeder, the 7104 Desert Skiff, and the = 7111 Droid Fighter, the 7110 Landspeeder, the 7104 Desert Skiff, and the 35,40c35,39 There are still a wide variety of rare parts, for great prices,=20 including purple, orange, and green parts, as well as minifigs, bricks,=20 plates, and everything else the LEGO Star Wars line has to offer. I also = have several hundred sets I will be adding as time permits, I will post=20 here when I do. Thanks for your support, and I will see you in=20 There are still a wide variety of rare parts, for great prices, including purple, orange, and green parts, as well as minifigs, bricks, plates, and everything else the LEGO Star Wars line has to offer. I also have several hundred sets I will be adding as time permits, I will post here when I do. Thanks for your support, and I will see you in
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:7668 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 46 Lines: 43 21,47c22,45 The free shipping offer is only good for a few more days, until = Monday, August 28th, 2000, and that includes internatonal shipping! We = have received a good number of orders, but we still have a variety of = parts left, everything from minifg accessories to BASIC bricks and = plate, to TECHNIC items, so be sure to check it out. The address is = http://www.sanburnsystems.com=20 After Monday, the free shipping ends, and we will begin on some = markdowns on selected items, which will soon be a regular feature. As = the holiday season approaches, we have several hundred sets that will be = added to the webpage, as well as holiday shipping and even gift wrapping = for any occasion. We have several Star Wars sets that will be added shortly as well, and = you can join our mailing list of when it will be, just drop a line to = cservice@sanburnsystems.,com and say you want to be on the list.=20 The U.S. Domestic shipping will be redone in a short time as well, = Priority shipping will be added, and some categories of prices dropped. = Some parts of the international might be as well, depending on a few = factors.=20 If you have any problems, suggestions, or comments, feel free to e-mail = us here at cservice@sanburnsystems.com or ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com=20 Thanks for your support, as we approach the end of summer, and the = beginnings of the fall season, remember The Sanburn Systems Company, the = best source for LEGO Elements on the web! Have a great weekend!=20 The free shipping offer is only good for a few more days, until Monday, August 28th, 2000, and that includes internatonal shipping! We have received a good number of orders, but we still have a variety of parts left, everything from minifg accessories to BASIC bricks and plate, to TECHNIC items, so be sure to check it out. The address is http://www.sanburnsystems.com After Monday, the free shipping ends, and we will begin on some markdowns on selected items, which will soon be a regular feature. As the holiday season approaches, we have several hundred sets that will be added to the webpage, as well as holiday shipping and even gift wrapping for any occasion. We have several Star Wars sets that will be added shortly as well, and you can join our mailing list of when it will be, just drop a line to cservice@sanburnsystems.,com and say you want to be on the list. The U.S. Domestic shipping will be redone in a short time as well, Priority shipping will be added, and some categories of prices dropped. Some parts of the international might be as well, depending on a few factors. If you have any problems, suggestions, or comments, feel free to e-mail us here at cservice@sanburnsystems.com or ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com Thanks for your support, as we approach the end of summer, and the beginnings of the fall season, remember The Sanburn Systems Company, the best source for LEGO Elements on the web! Have a great weekend!
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lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:8346 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 13 19,27c20,24 > > "Buy The Brick" includes listings by set number and by set theme. Eit= her > >way you collect you will be pleased with the information. It is designed= for > >people to have a reference when purchasing LEGO=AE complete sets in an a= uction > >format and off the many internet web sites that offer LEGO=AE complete > >sets. "Buy The Brick" also includes articles and other features for the = LEGO=AE > > "Buy The Brick" includes listings by set number and by set theme. Either > >way you collect you will be pleased with the information. It is designed for > >people to have a reference when purchasing LEGO® complete sets in an auction > >format and off the many internet web sites that offer LEGO® complete > >sets. "Buy The Brick" also includes articles and other features for the LEGO® 29,33c26,28 >=20 > Yep. So much for the days of innocence. I wonder if this will cause price= s on > eBay to increase with more non-fans-of-the-brick speculating? Anyone goin= g to > > Yep. So much for the days of innocence. I wonder if this will cause prices on > eBay to increase with more non-fans-of-the-brick speculating? Anyone going to 36,37c31 Dan got one, i haven't finished going through my mail yet... if i get one, = i Dan got one, i haven't finished going through my mail yet... if i get one, i 39d32
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:8531 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 68 Lines: 65 20,68c21,66 =20 We here at the Sanburn Systems Company would like to thank each one of = you for your past support and busniess, and we are looking forward to = providing service to you again. We have updated our current inventory = with several thousand parts, all ranging from the current LEGO System = Star Wars line. We have included several copies of each of the = following: 7101 Light Saber Duel, 7104 Desert Skiff, 7110 Landspeeder, = 7111 Droid Fighter, 7115 Gungan Patrol, 7121 Naboo Swamp, 7124 = Flashspeeder, 7128 Speederbikes, 7130 Snowspeeder, 7134 A Wing, 7140 X = Wing, 7141 Naboo Fighter, 7144 Slave 1, 7150 Tie Fighter / Y Wing, 7151 = Sith Infiltrator, 7160 Gungan Sub, 7171 Mos Espa Podrace, and 7180 B = Wing at Rebel Command Center. We are also adding some parts we missed in = the first inventory addition, as well as instruction manuals.=20 We have made some vast improvements in our payment modules. You can now = select Paypal or x.com or check money order or cash payments from the = payment menu, and process it fully, just like the credit card payment = option. This will make using these options far better for everyone, = including us. We are really excited about it, and I am sure you will be = as well.=20 We have also added a discount module to our site, so we will be having = category specific sales every week, which will start soon. Our first priority is to get some other newer Star Wars sets into = inventory, namely 7184, the MTT, and the 7155, the AAT Tank. We also = will add first, the Ultimate Collector's Series X Wing, and the Droid = Discovery Mindstorms kit. We will continue to add new sets for the next = several weeks. We have around 500 sets to add. We will send an e-mail = when they are up. We have additional help, and a better stock process, = which will go faster, and smoother than before.=20 We have several parts tagged for price reductions, and we will be = changing those shortly. As the holidays draw near, we will be adding some gift wrapping = capabilities for gifts, and even some personal cards in the mix. That = will be added shortly. You can already send the order to another address = if you wish, it is included within the current ordering form.=20 As always, if you are looking for a particular part, or have a question = on a where a part might be, feel free to e-mail us here. If you would = like to make an offer for the whole inventory of a certain part, feel = free to e-mail us here with the bid, we usually accept it, within = reason. We also welcome any suggestions, comments, and the like, we love = hearing from you! (cservice@sanburnsystems.com ) =20 Thank you for your business, we hope you will have a great rest of the = week, and as always, happy building! : ) We here at the Sanburn Systems Company would like to thank each one of you for your past support and busniess, and we are looking forward to providing service to you again. We have updated our current inventory with several thousand parts, all ranging from the current LEGO System Star Wars line. We have included several copies of each of the following: 7101 Light Saber Duel, 7104 Desert Skiff, 7110 Landspeeder, 7111 Droid Fighter, 7115 Gungan Patrol, 7121 Naboo Swamp, 7124 Flashspeeder, 7128 Speederbikes, 7130 Snowspeeder, 7134 A Wing, 7140 X Wing, 7141 Naboo Fighter, 7144 Slave 1, 7150 Tie Fighter / Y Wing, 7151 Sith Infiltrator, 7160 Gungan Sub, 7171 Mos Espa Podrace, and 7180 B Wing at Rebel Command Center. We are also adding some parts we missed in the first inventory addition, as well as instruction manuals. We have made some vast improvements in our payment modules. You can now select Paypal or x.com or check money order or cash payments from the payment menu, and process it fully, just like the credit card payment option. This will make using these options far better for everyone, including us. We are really excited about it, and I am sure you will be as well. We have also added a discount module to our site, so we will be having category specific sales every week, which will start soon. Our first priority is to get some other newer Star Wars sets into inventory, namely 7184, the MTT, and the 7155, the AAT Tank. We also will add first, the Ultimate Collector's Series X Wing, and the Droid Discovery Mindstorms kit. We will continue to add new sets for the next several weeks. We have around 500 sets to add. We will send an e-mail when they are up. We have additional help, and a better stock process, which will go faster, and smoother than before. We have several parts tagged for price reductions, and we will be changing those shortly. As the holidays draw near, we will be adding some gift wrapping capabilities for gifts, and even some personal cards in the mix. That will be added shortly. You can already send the order to another address if you wish, it is included within the current ordering form. As always, if you are looking for a particular part, or have a question on a where a part might be, feel free to e-mail us here. If you would like to make an offer for the whole inventory of a certain part, feel free to e-mail us here with the bid, we usually accept it, within reason. We also welcome any suggestions, comments, and the like, we love hearing from you! (cservice@sanburnsystems.com ) Thank you for your business, we hope you will have a great rest of the week, and as always, happy building! : )
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:8998 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 52 Lines: 50 21,24c22,25 I just wanted to say thanks for the continued responses I have had = for the past few months, it has been busy, but I am glad I can provide = for the continuing expanding AFOL's coming to LUGNET. Again, I want to = give a big thanks to Todd, who manages this wonderful venue for this.=20 I just wanted to say thanks for the continued responses I have had for the past few months, it has been busy, but I am glad I can provide for the continuing expanding AFOL's coming to LUGNET. Again, I want to give a big thanks to Todd, who manages this wonderful venue for this. 26,31c27,32 Anyway, my straight sales site, The Sanburn Systems Company, = http://www.sanburnsystems.com, the inventory is back online, I think I = fixed the majority of glitches with the inventory, I hope, and the whole = inventory is back and available to purchase from. My e-mail to LUGNET is = not working properly anymore, so I am using my personal e-mail. I try to = answer them both in a timely manner.=20 Anyway, my straight sales site, The Sanburn Systems Company, http://www.sanburnsystems.com, the inventory is back online, I think I fixed the majority of glitches with the inventory, I hope, and the whole inventory is back and available to purchase from. My e-mail to LUGNET is not working properly anymore, so I am using my personal e-mail. I try to answer them both in a timely manner. 33,44c34,43 Another note I would like to say is that I am having a hard time trying = to get my discounts working properly. To all the people from the first = MICHLUG meeting, I will have to continue to do it manually for the time = being. Once I do get the discount program working within normal = operating parameters, I will start having weekly sales on various = categories.=20 =20 Also, for the people that have contacted me with personal requests, I do = have them still, and I am trying my best to get them ready. My schedule = has been pretty rotten for the past few weeks, as my work load from my = two primary jobs has increased. I should have more time starting next = week.=20 Another note I would like to say is that I am having a hard time trying to get my discounts working properly. To all the people from the first MICHLUG meeting, I will have to continue to do it manually for the time being. Once I do get the discount program working within normal operating parameters, I will start having weekly sales on various categories. Also, for the people that have contacted me with personal requests, I do have them still, and I am trying my best to get them ready. My schedule has been pretty rotten for the past few weeks, as my work load from my two primary jobs has increased. I should have more time starting next week. 46,52c45,51 Hopefully, by the end of next week, I can add some sets I have bought, = namely the MTT, the AAT, and the Star Wars Bucket from the Star Wars = line. I will also start on the UCS series, some of the Mindstorms sets, = and finally the other castle, town, and space sets I have. =20 =20 If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail me personally, and I hope = all of you have a great evening and weekend. Thanks! Hopefully, by the end of next week, I can add some sets I have bought, namely the MTT, the AAT, and the Star Wars Bucket from the Star Wars line. I will also start on the UCS series, some of the Mindstorms sets, and finally the other castle, town, and space sets I have. If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail me personally, and I hope all of you have a great evening and weekend. Thanks!
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lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:9119 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 We are having a 25% off all orders special through this weekend to=20 clear out some space for the new sets that are going to be added into=20 the inventory soon. There are no special codes, minimums, or anything,=20 We are having a 25% off all orders special through this weekend to clear out some space for the new sets that are going to be added into the inventory soon. There are no special codes, minimums, or anything, 26,27c27,28 Thank you all for your continued support, I am very thankful for that. I = hope everyone had a great=20 Thank you all for your continued support, I am very thankful for that. I hope everyone had a great
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:9179 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 26 21,28c22,28 With the success of the 25% after Thanksgiving sale, and the fact = that my internet connection has been off and on since Saturday, I have = decided to extend the 25% percent off sale until this Sunday, December = 3rd. So if you missed the first time, be sure to look around, as we = still have thousands of parts in every category that Star Wars LEGO sets = has, even some of the new parts that I am processing as fast as = possible, namely the 7155 AAT and the 7184 MTT. Thank you for your = business, and have a great rest of the week.=20 With the success of the 25% after Thanksgiving sale, and the fact that my internet connection has been off and on since Saturday, I have decided to extend the 25% percent off sale until this Sunday, December 3rd. So if you missed the first time, be sure to look around, as we still have thousands of parts in every category that Star Wars LEGO sets has, even some of the new parts that I am processing as fast as possible, namely the 7155 AAT and the 7184 MTT. Thank you for your business, and have a great rest of the week.
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:9240 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 27 21,29c22,29 We have had a great response to our sale so far, I just wanted to = remind everyone that the 25% off all orders sale ends this Sunday, = albeit another Internet Service crash. There are still a lot of = different parts in every category, so be sure to look around. We have a = lot of additional parts from multiple sets we are slowly adding, so the = selection will be expanding even more in the coming weeks. Thanks for = your busniess, and if you have any questions or comments, feel free to = e-mail me at ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com . Have a great weekend, and a = wonderful holiday season! We have had a great response to our sale so far, I just wanted to remind everyone that the 25% off all orders sale ends this Sunday, albeit another Internet Service crash. There are still a lot of different parts in every category, so be sure to look around. We have a lot of additional parts from multiple sets we are slowly adding, so the selection will be expanding even more in the coming weeks. Thanks for your busniess, and if you have any questions or comments, feel free to e-mail me at ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com . Have a great weekend, and a wonderful holiday season!
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:9273 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 Just a friendly reminder that I will be taking off the sale around = 12:00AM EST tonight. We still have thousands of parts just waiting to be = bought, so be sure to look around. Just a friendly reminder that I will be taking off the sale around 12:00AM EST tonight. We still have thousands of parts just waiting to be bought, so be sure to look around. 25,28c26,29 Also, after this sale, several parts will go down in price, since I know = know a general sense of what parts are desired. This will happen in the = coming weeks, along with the addition of several new parts. Thanks for = all of your business, I hope you have a great week! Also, after this sale, several parts will go down in price, since I know know a general sense of what parts are desired. This will happen in the coming weeks, along with the addition of several new parts. Thanks for all of your business, I hope you have a great week! 36c37 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner=20 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:9444 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 37 21,30c22,30 I finally got around to figuring out how to have category specific = sales on my website, so I started off with 35% off all colors of BASIC = Plates & Bricks. In order to see the 35% off Basket Discount, you need = to add an item in your shopping cart of either the BASIC Bricks or BASIC = Plates categories, then all the prices will change accordingly. If you = have any questions, feel free to e-mail us at = cservice@sanburnsystems.com I also added an additional 15% off all = orders as well, so you can save a total of 50% off all BASIC Bricks and = Plates, so it is a great deal! Shop early for best selection! So, in = summary, 15% off all orders, and 50% off all BASIC Bricks and Plates.=20 I finally got around to figuring out how to have category specific sales on my website, so I started off with 35% off all colors of BASIC Plates & Bricks. In order to see the 35% off Basket Discount, you need to add an item in your shopping cart of either the BASIC Bricks or BASIC Plates categories, then all the prices will change accordingly. If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail us at cservice@sanburnsystems.com I also added an additional 15% off all orders as well, so you can save a total of 50% off all BASIC Bricks and Plates, so it is a great deal! Shop early for best selection! So, in summary, 15% off all orders, and 50% off all BASIC Bricks and Plates. 32,34c32,34 Finally, we are working on another inventory update, and we are getting = ready to put non Star Wars elements on the page, so be sure to look for = that in the coming weeks. Check the New parts link to see the latest.=20 Finally, we are working on another inventory update, and we are getting ready to put non Star Wars elements on the page, so be sure to look for that in the coming weeks. Check the New parts link to see the latest. 36,39c36,39 If you have any questions or problems about our site, we would love to = hear it. Thank you for your continued business, and we want to extend = our warmest wishes to have a wonderul and happy hoiliday season to you = and yours. Have a great week! : ) If you have any questions or problems about our site, we would love to hear it. Thank you for your continued business, and we want to extend our warmest wishes to have a wonderul and happy hoiliday season to you and yours. Have a great week! : ) 47c47 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner=20 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:9469 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 51 Lines: 48 21,51c22,49 The 15% to 50% off sale seems to be a good success, and I want to = thank you all for the business. There are still several bricks and = plates in stock, from black to light gray to red, so be sure to look = throughout those two categories, BASIC Bricks & BASIC Plates, for your = 50 off order. I have also fixed the Black and Tan bricks problem. I will = be having this specific sale at least until December 26th, and then I = will be changing the 50% off to other categories, cycling through until = I sell most of my inventory, to make some room. The 15% will remain in = effect however for awhile. =20 As for this holiday, I will try my best to get all of the outstanding = orders out tomorrow, at the latest Saturday. I will then be leaving for = my parents house, and will be gone until late Monday night, and I will = not be doing any business related things until then.=20 Also, my e-mail seems to be experiencing difficulty sending anything = out, so if you have specific questions, feel free to respond to = ssanburn@cleanweb.net until I can figure it out. To those of you waiting = on parts, I am going to try to get most of them out tomorrow, since I = have half a day off of my primary job.=20 I will try to restock parts soon, but I want to clear out some existing = parts first, and I will be lowering prices on several selected parts, I = have about 40 picked out so far. I am making progress on a lot of sets, = I have about 15 almost ready to add to the website, and more on the way. = I want to thank all of my customers for their support, I have had a good = half a year, and I want to extend best wishes for a fun, happy, and safe = holiday season. Have a great night, and I hope Santa gets you all those = LEGO items you have wanted! : ) The 15% to 50% off sale seems to be a good success, and I want to thank you all for the business. There are still several bricks and plates in stock, from black to light gray to red, so be sure to look throughout those two categories, BASIC Bricks & BASIC Plates, for your 50 off order. I have also fixed the Black and Tan bricks problem. I will be having this specific sale at least until December 26th, and then I will be changing the 50% off to other categories, cycling through until I sell most of my inventory, to make some room. The 15% will remain in effect however for awhile. As for this holiday, I will try my best to get all of the outstanding orders out tomorrow, at the latest Saturday. I will then be leaving for my parents house, and will be gone until late Monday night, and I will not be doing any business related things until then. Also, my e-mail seems to be experiencing difficulty sending anything out, so if you have specific questions, feel free to respond to ssanburn@cleanweb.net until I can figure it out. To those of you waiting on parts, I am going to try to get most of them out tomorrow, since I have half a day off of my primary job. I will try to restock parts soon, but I want to clear out some existing parts first, and I will be lowering prices on several selected parts, I have about 40 picked out so far. I am making progress on a lot of sets, I have about 15 almost ready to add to the website, and more on the way. I want to thank all of my customers for their support, I have had a good half a year, and I want to extend best wishes for a fun, happy, and safe holiday season. Have a great night, and I hope Santa gets you all those LEGO items you have wanted! : ) 59,60c57,58 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner =20 =20 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:9520 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 41 Lines: 36 21,22c22 First, we want to wish all of you a very safe and prosperous New = Year. First, we want to wish all of you a very safe and prosperous New Year. 26,34c26,30 We here at The Sanburn Systems Company, www.sanburnsystems.com,=20 are currently having a pretty nice sale, 45% Off all remaining BASIC = Bricks=20 & BASIC Plates, and 35% Off all parts in the Cylindrical Parts, Hinges = Etc.,=20 and Miscellaneous Parts Categories. We are also having a 25% Off all = orders=20 sale as well, so your potential for savings is anywhere from 25% to 70% = off=20 We here at The Sanburn Systems Company, www.sanburnsystems.com, are currently having a pretty nice sale, 45% Off all remaining BASIC Bricks & BASIC Plates, and 35% Off all parts in the Cylindrical Parts, Hinges Etc., and Miscellaneous Parts Categories. We are also having a 25% Off all orders sale as well, so your potential for savings is anywhere from 25% to 70% off 38,40c34,36 available easier. The products are still there, we just wanted to make = it a little easier to see what is available.=20 available easier. The products are still there, we just wanted to make it a little easier to see what is available.
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:9662 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 35 21,23c22,23 After a brief timeout for the GATS Train Show, The Sanburn Systems = Company is back at home and we have put more categories on sale, here is = the list: After a brief timeout for the GATS Train Show, The Sanburn Systems Company is back at home and we have put more categories on sale, here is the list: 27,30c27,30 B) Cylindrical Parts, Hinges, Etc. & Miscellaneous Parts- 35% Off = (Total of 60% Off) C) NEW! Sloped & Angled Parts, Minifig Parts & Accessories, and Tile = Parts - 25% off (Total of 50% Off) B) Cylindrical Parts, Hinges, Etc. & Miscellaneous Parts- 35% Off (Total of 60% Off) C) NEW! Sloped & Angled Parts, Minifig Parts & Accessories, and Tile Parts - 25% off (Total of 50% Off) 32,37c32,37 It is a great time to stock up on parts right now, so be sure to take a = look for best selection. I have a few outstanding orders, and I will = send those out ASAP. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to = e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com Thanks for the continued = support, as I start my second year of business, even if I was only open = for 6 of the months! Have a great night! : ) It is a great time to stock up on parts right now, so be sure to take a look for best selection. I have a few outstanding orders, and I will send those out ASAP. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com Thanks for the continued support, as I start my second year of business, even if I was only open for 6 of the months! Have a great night! : )
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:10161 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 57 Lines: 56 21,23c22,24 We here at ThE Sanburn Systems Company http://www.sanburnsystems.com = have continued our Category sales, adding more categories, and added = further discounts to existing sales. Here is our current list: We here at ThE Sanburn Systems Company http://www.sanburnsystems.com have continued our Category sales, adding more categories, and added further discounts to existing sales. Here is our current list: 32c33 - Plants - 45%=20 - Plants - 45% 40,57c41,57 We are in the process of restocking the store, which should be done in = the next few weeks. We are looking at scaling back most of our prices as = well, which will be available when our new stock is added. We have added = the parts from the 7155 Trade Federation AAT and the 7184 Trade = Federation MTT as well, which will be available on the next stock = update. We have several other sets as well which should be ready by = then.=20 =20 As a special note, all current members of MICHLUG who are receiving the = discount, your discount does not work properly with the Category sales, = please e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com for specific = instructions. Basically you cannot log in to make an order, if you do, = the discount overrides any category sales. =20 It is a great time to stock up on our remaining parts right now, so be = sure to take a look now for the best selection. If you have any = questions or comments, feel free to e-mail me at = cservice@sanburnsystems.com Thanks for the continued support! We are in the process of restocking the store, which should be done in the next few weeks. We are looking at scaling back most of our prices as well, which will be available when our new stock is added. We have added the parts from the 7155 Trade Federation AAT and the 7184 Trade Federation MTT as well, which will be available on the next stock update. We have several other sets as well which should be ready by then. As a special note, all current members of MICHLUG who are receiving the discount, your discount does not work properly with the Category sales, please e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com for specific instructions. Basically you cannot log in to make an order, if you do, the discount overrides any category sales. It is a great time to stock up on our remaining parts right now, so be sure to take a look now for the best selection. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com Thanks for the continued support!
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:10308 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 I am still having a great sale at my site, The Sanburn Systems = Company, http://www.sanburnsystems.com . Here are the current sales: I am still having a great sale at my site, The Sanburn Systems Company, http://www.sanburnsystems.com . Here are the current sales: 24,44c25,45 BASIC Bricks - 45% Off=20 BASIC Plates - 45% Off=20 Cylindrical Parts - 45% Off=20 Hinges, Etc. - 45% Off=20 Minifig Parts & Accessories - 45% Off=20 Miscellaneous Parts - 45% Off=20 Sloped & Angled Parts - 45% Off=20 Plants - 45% =20 Tile Parts - 35% Off=20 Decorated Elements - 25% Off=20 Spaceship / Airplane Items - 25% Off=20 Thin Wall Parts - 25% Off=20 TECHNIC Parts - 25% Off=20 Windshields - 25% Off=20 There are still some good parts available, another stock update is = coming, but we want to clear out as much as possible first. All orders = will have a 25% basket Discount at the end of the order, so your order = could be as much as 70% off regular prices. To help see what is = remaining, I made a little page to show you what's left, and here is the = link, or you can hit the Remaining Parts and Sales link on the homepage: BASIC Bricks - 45% Off BASIC Plates - 45% Off Cylindrical Parts - 45% Off Hinges, Etc. - 45% Off Minifig Parts & Accessories - 45% Off Miscellaneous Parts - 45% Off Sloped & Angled Parts - 45% Off Plants - 45% Tile Parts - 35% Off Decorated Elements - 25% Off Spaceship / Airplane Items - 25% Off Thin Wall Parts - 25% Off TECHNIC Parts - 25% Off Windshields - 25% Off There are still some good parts available, another stock update is coming, but we want to clear out as much as possible first. All orders will have a 25% basket Discount at the end of the order, so your order could be as much as 70% off regular prices. To help see what is remaining, I made a little page to show you what's left, and here is the link, or you can hit the Remaining Parts and Sales link on the homepage: 48,51c49,52 To see the discount, you need to put the item in the basket, and then = the prices will be adjusted. The Basket discount will be given at the = end of the order. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to = e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com =20 To see the discount, you need to put the item in the basket, and then the prices will be adjusted. The Basket discount will be given at the end of the order. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com 53,54c54,55 A Reminder to all MichLUG members, contact me before ordering at the = e-mail address above.=20 A Reminder to all MichLUG members, contact me before ordering at the e-mail address above. 56c57 Thank you for your continued support, and have a great week!=20 Thank you for your continued support, and have a great week!
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:10321 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 41 Lines: 35 22,31c23,27 http://www.sanrbunsystems.com I mistakenly added the discount on the = parts (0 to 45%) with the final total 25% off on the basket, coming up with = 70% off. This is incorrect, and I will fix this as soon as possible. I will = fix it so the basket discount is no longer there, and the correct = percentages will come up. For all the people that ordered before, please contact me = at http://www.sanrbunsystems.com I mistakenly added the discount on the parts (0 to 45%) with the final total 25% off on the basket, coming up with 70% off. This is incorrect, and I will fix this as soon as possible. I will fix it so the basket discount is no longer there, and the correct percentages will come up. For all the people that ordered before, please contact me at 35,36c31 Any further questions can be addressed to ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com I = need Any further questions can be addressed to ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com I need
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:10420 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 34 Lines: 33 21,27c22,28 I am looking for the minifigs and / or decorated elements of the = CARGO Town Junior theme. See set 6235 for details ( = http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6325 ) I can either trade or buy.=20 I have a few 6422 ( http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6422 ) Telephone Repairs = for trade, whether you want the mini figures or the telephone symbols, = that is fine, I am looking for the minifigs. I am looking for the minifigs and / or decorated elements of the CARGO Town Junior theme. See set 6235 for details ( http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6325 ) I can either trade or buy. I have a few 6422 ( http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6422 ) Telephone Repairs for trade, whether you want the mini figures or the telephone symbols, that is fine, I am looking for the minifigs. 29,30c30,31 If you want something else to trade for, I have lots of different stuff. = Just ask at ssanburn@cleanweb.net=20 If you want something else to trade for, I have lots of different stuff. Just ask at ssanburn@cleanweb.net 37,39c38,39 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:10452 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 90 Lines: 83 21,84c22,79 The heading says it all. After almost a year in business, and a = pretty decent margin, my wife and I have decided to close my site, = http://www.sanburnsystems.com . I have already disabled the shopping = cart for a few reasons. The decision was not an easy ne to make, but I = have listed a few here for you:=20 1) My host seems to upgrade the shopping cart every few months, costing = me several hundred dollars, which I can no longer can afford. The last = update has lost a few orders, and upset my inventory yet again. I am = very upset about this, as I can open a Brickbay store and have an easier = time of it. I also have to pay for the upgrade service fee, and a module = update one as well. It is getting ridiculous, and I cannot afford it any = longer. =20 2) My wife is completing her studies to be a Pharmicist, and her = acceptance of a job in South Bend, Indiana, will make my life easier, as = I will not have to work as hard as I have been. She will be earning = about threee times as much as I am, and financially, I don't really need = to do this anymore. Truthfully, she never really liked me starting this, = and is glad I decided to accept this. She doesn't like sorting for the = business anyway! : )=20 3) I have secured employment in the South Bend Area and will be moving = there shortly, as soon as I take a few employment tests. I will be = focusing on getting set up there, and will have little time to do much = in terms of the business.=20 4) As I have poured a significant amount of time and energy into my = site, with my schedule, it is hard to maintain, and I decided that I = would like some time to build again. My wife has seen this as well.=20 This has been one of the hardest decisions of my life, but I think it is = the best for my life and my marriage at this point. It is more than = ironic that Brickbay and my site opened up the same day. If Brickbay was = around when I started looking for a site, things would have been very = different. When I started my site, I knew there was a huge gap in the = LEGO market for something like Brickbay, and I am glad that hole has = been filled. As some of you know, I have been on it since January, and = have been impressed, and have gotten some of my esteemed Futuron = minifigs. : ) I do have some unresolved orders I will continue to fulfill, if you have = an outstanding order, feel free to e-mail me at ssanburn@cleanweb.net, I = want to wrap those up ASAP. =20 I will be auctioning off my remaining sets and parts on E-Bay, to = produce some needed cash and to finalize this. I was seriously thinking = of opening a Brickbay store, but decided to just end it at this point. I = might set up one in the future.=20 All information gathered on my site will be deleted, as well as any = information in my records will be destroyed as well. I will be finishing = my books for this tax season. Feel free to e-mail me with conerns or = questions.=20 Finally, I just wanted to say thank you for all of your support over the = last year, I have enjoyed helping fellow LEGO Maniacs continue to make = great creations. It has been fun. I am looking forward to starting over, = in many aspects, from our new life for my wife and I, to having time to = build again, which I have not had for a few years, between college and = working three / four jobs. I am looking forward to contributing to the = train shows and to help MichLUG along, it is such a thrill to have = fellow LEGO maniacs around. =20 The heading says it all. After almost a year in business, and a pretty decent margin, my wife and I have decided to close my site, http://www.sanburnsystems.com . I have already disabled the shopping cart for a few reasons. The decision was not an easy ne to make, but I have listed a few here for you: 1) My host seems to upgrade the shopping cart every few months, costing me several hundred dollars, which I can no longer can afford. The last update has lost a few orders, and upset my inventory yet again. I am very upset about this, as I can open a Brickbay store and have an easier time of it. I also have to pay for the upgrade service fee, and a module update one as well. It is getting ridiculous, and I cannot afford it any longer. 2) My wife is completing her studies to be a Pharmicist, and her acceptance of a job in South Bend, Indiana, will make my life easier, as I will not have to work as hard as I have been. She will be earning about threee times as much as I am, and financially, I don't really need to do this anymore. Truthfully, she never really liked me starting this, and is glad I decided to accept this. She doesn't like sorting for the business anyway! : ) 3) I have secured employment in the South Bend Area and will be moving there shortly, as soon as I take a few employment tests. I will be focusing on getting set up there, and will have little time to do much in terms of the business. 4) As I have poured a significant amount of time and energy into my site, with my schedule, it is hard to maintain, and I decided that I would like some time to build again. My wife has seen this as well. This has been one of the hardest decisions of my life, but I think it is the best for my life and my marriage at this point. It is more than ironic that Brickbay and my site opened up the same day. If Brickbay was around when I started looking for a site, things would have been very different. When I started my site, I knew there was a huge gap in the LEGO market for something like Brickbay, and I am glad that hole has been filled. As some of you know, I have been on it since January, and have been impressed, and have gotten some of my esteemed Futuron minifigs. : ) I do have some unresolved orders I will continue to fulfill, if you have an outstanding order, feel free to e-mail me at ssanburn@cleanweb.net, I want to wrap those up ASAP. I will be auctioning off my remaining sets and parts on E-Bay, to produce some needed cash and to finalize this. I was seriously thinking of opening a Brickbay store, but decided to just end it at this point. I might set up one in the future. All information gathered on my site will be deleted, as well as any information in my records will be destroyed as well. I will be finishing my books for this tax season. Feel free to e-mail me with conerns or questions. Finally, I just wanted to say thank you for all of your support over the last year, I have enjoyed helping fellow LEGO Maniacs continue to make great creations. It has been fun. I am looking forward to starting over, in many aspects, from our new life for my wife and I, to having time to build again, which I have not had for a few years, between college and working three / four jobs. I am looking forward to contributing to the train shows and to help MichLUG along, it is such a thrill to have fellow LEGO maniacs around. 86,87c81,82 If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to post here, or to = e-mail me at ssanburn@cleanweb.net =20 If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to post here, or to e-mail me at ssanburn@cleanweb.net 95,97c90,91 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:11293 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 105 Lines: 80 19,20c20,21 A selection of items currently in stock at GoB - Lions Gate Models = Brickbay store A selection of items currently in stock at GoB - Lions Gate Models Brickbay store 22c23 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1 24,124c25,99 Silver Radar Dish 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D149104=20 =20 Blue Slope 33 3 x 3 Double Convex = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D149003=20 =20 White Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D148968=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 10 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145107=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145106=20 =20 Black Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145105=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 8 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145101=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145081=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145078=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Plate 2 x 8 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145074=20 =20 Blue Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 Double Convex = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145050=20 =20 Dark Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145045=20 =20 White Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145044=20 =20 Blue Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145042=20 =20 Dark Grey Landspeeder Engine = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D144001=20 =20 Red Slope 45 1 x 2 Triple = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143989=20 =20 Trans-White (Clear) Brick 1 x 2 without Centre Studs = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143789=20 =20 Yellow Door 1 x 3 x 1 Right = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143755=20 =20 Yellow Door 1 x 3 x 1 Left = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143753=20 =20 Light Grey Fence 1 x 4 x 1 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143743=20 =20 Green Brick, Round 4 x 4 Corner = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D142712=20 =20 Black Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Holes on Sides USED - 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good condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134528 Black Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 2 with Centre Stud Top USED - fair condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134527 Red Boat Bow Plate 10 x 9 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=104435 Red Slope, Inverted 45 4 x 4 Double http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=51113
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:11307 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 149 Lines: 113 19,20c20,21 A selection of items currently in stock at GoB - Lions Gate Models = Brickbay store A selection of items currently in stock at GoB - Lions Gate Models Brickbay store 22c23 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1 24,168c25,132 Silver Brick, Round 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150207=20 =20 Silver Antenna 1 x 4 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150206=20 =20 Silver Exhaust Pipe Straight = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150205=20 =20 Silver Exhaust Pipe Elbow = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150204=20 =20 Black Fence 1 x 8 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150203=20 =20 Black Slope 55 6 x 1 x 5 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150202=20 =20 Red Panel Artic wall (including trans-red glazing) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150201=20 =20 Red Windscreen 6 x 6 Octagonal Canopy with Axlehole = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150199=20 =20 Black Plate, Modified 8 x 8 with Grille = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150193=20 =20 Red Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150192=20 =20 Trans-Red Brick 1 x 4 without Centre Studs = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150191=20 =20 Trans-Red Windscreen 4 x 7 x 1 2/3 (includes 2 click hinge pcs to mount = ca http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150190=20 =20 Trans-Red Cylinder 2 x 4 x 4 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150189=20 =20 Silver Radar Dish 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D149104=20 =20 White Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D148968=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 10 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145107=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145106=20 =20 Black Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145105=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 8 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145101=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145081=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145078=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Plate 2 x 8 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145074=20 =20 Blue Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 Double Convex = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145050=20 =20 Dark Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145045=20 =20 White Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145044=20 =20 Dark Grey Landspeeder Engine = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D144001=20 =20 Red Slope 45 1 x 2 Triple = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143989=20 =20 Trans-White (Clear) Brick 1 x 2 without Centre Studs = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143789=20 =20 Yellow Door 1 x 3 x 1 Right = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143755=20 =20 Yellow Door 1 x 3 x 1 Left = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143753=20 =20 Light Grey Fence 1 x 4 x 1 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143743=20 =20 Green Brick, Round 4 x 4 Corner = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D142712=20 =20 Black Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Holes on Sides USED - good = condition=20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134528=20 =20 Black Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 2 with Centre Stud Top USED - fair = condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134527=20 =20 Red Boat Bow Plate 10 x 9 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D104435=20 =20 Red Slope, Inverted 45 4 x 4 Double = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D51113 =20 =20 Silver Brick, Round 2 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150207 Silver Antenna 1 x 4 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150206 Silver Exhaust Pipe Straight http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150205 Silver Exhaust Pipe Elbow http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150204 Black Fence 1 x 8 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150203 Black Slope 55 6 x 1 x 5 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150202 Red Panel Artic wall (including trans-red glazing) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150201 Red Windscreen 6 x 6 Octagonal Canopy with Axlehole http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150199 Black Plate, Modified 8 x 8 with Grille http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150193 Red Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150192 Trans-Red Brick 1 x 4 without Centre Studs http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150191 Trans-Red Windscreen 4 x 7 x 1 2/3 (includes 2 click hinge pcs to mount ca http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150190 Trans-Red Cylinder 2 x 4 x 4 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150189 Silver Radar Dish 2 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=149104 White Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=148968 White Technic, Brick 1 x 10 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145107 White Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145106 Black Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145105 White Technic, Brick 1 x 8 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145101 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145081 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145078 Light Grey Technic, Plate 2 x 8 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145074 Blue Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 Double Convex http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145050 Dark Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145045 White Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145044 Dark Grey Landspeeder Engine http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=144001 Red Slope 45 1 x 2 Triple http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=143989 Trans-White (Clear) Brick 1 x 2 without Centre Studs http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=143789 Yellow Door 1 x 3 x 1 Right http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=143755 Yellow Door 1 x 3 x 1 Left http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=143753 Light Grey Fence 1 x 4 x 1 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=143743 Green Brick, Round 4 x 4 Corner http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=142712 Black Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Holes on Sides USED - good condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134528 Black Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 2 with Centre Stud Top USED - fair condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134527 Red Boat Bow Plate 10 x 9 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=104435 Red Slope, Inverted 45 4 x 4 Double http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=51113
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:11367 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 225 Lines: 170 19,20c20,21 A selection of items currently in stock at GoB - Lions Gate Models = Brickbay store A selection of items currently in stock at GoB - Lions Gate Models Brickbay store 22c23 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1 24,244c25,189 Tan Technic, Panel Fairing #3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153814=20 =20 Dark Grey Door 6 x 7 Barred including light grey frame to fit = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153810=20 =20 Light Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153712=20 =20 Tan Plate, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 Cross with Dome = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153707=20 =20 Dark Grey Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153703=20 =20 Black Brick 1 x 2 x 5 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153494=20 =20 Yellow Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled (picket fence) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153492=20 =20 Red Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are RED, no printing) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153490=20 =20 Brown Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are BROWN) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153489=20 =20 Light Grey Container Box 2 x 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151637=20 =20 White Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 1 & 1/3 with Curved Top = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151623=20 =20 Black Plate 6 x 16 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151615=20 =20 White Plate 6 x 16 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151614=20 =20 Green Plate 6 x 8 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151612=20 =20 Green Plate 6 x 12 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151610=20 =20 Green Plate 6 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151608=20 =20 Green Plate 4 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151607=20 =20 Red Plate 6 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151597=20 =20 Red Plate 6 x 10 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151593=20 =20 Red Radar Dish 4 x 4 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151023=20 =20 Trans-Neon Green Cylinder 2 x 2 x 1 & 2/3 with Dome Top = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151022=20 =20 Trans-Dark Blue Panel 1 x 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151001=20 =20 Brown Container Adventurers Chest = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150995=20 =20 Silver Exhaust Pipe Straight = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150205=20 =20 Silver Exhaust Pipe Elbow = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150204=20 =20 Black Slope 55 6 x 1 x 5 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150202=20 =20 Black Plate, Modified 8 x 8 with Grille = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150193=20 =20 Red Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150192=20 =20 Trans-Red Windscreen 4 x 7 x 1 2/3 (includes 2 click hinge pcs to mount = ca http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150190=20 =20 Silver Radar Dish 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D149104=20 =20 White Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D148968=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 10 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145107=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145106=20 =20 Black Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145105=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 8 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145101=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145081=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145078=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Plate 2 x 8 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145074=20 =20 Blue Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 Double Convex = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145050=20 =20 Dark Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145045=20 =20 White Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145044=20 =20 Dark Grey Landspeeder Engine = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D144001=20 =20 Trans-White (Clear) Brick 1 x 2 without Centre Studs = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143789=20 =20 Light Grey Fence 1 x 4 x 1 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143743=20 =20 Green Brick, Round 4 x 4 Corner = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D142712=20 =20 Yellow Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Stud on Sides USED - good = condition=20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134530=20 =20 Black Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Holes on Sides USED - good = condition=20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134528=20 =20 Blue Radar Dish 6 x 6 Webbed USED - good condition = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134489=20 =20 White Wing 7 x 12 Right USED - fair condition (left wing also available) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134479=20 =20 White Wing 7 x 12 Left USED - fair condition (right wing also available) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134477=20 =20 Yellow Boat Base 6 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D98310 =20 =20 Dark Grey Boat Bow Plate 6 x 7 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D70278 =20 =20 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Right = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D58899 =20 =20 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Left = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D58898 =20 =20 Red Slope, Inverted 45 4 x 4 Double = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D51113 =20 =20 Tan Technic, Panel Fairing #3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153814 Dark Grey Door 6 x 7 Barred including light grey frame to fit http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153810 Light Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153712 Tan Plate, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 Cross with Dome http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153707 Dark Grey Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153703 Black Brick 1 x 2 x 5 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153494 Yellow Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled (picket fence) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153492 Red Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are RED, no printing) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153490 Brown Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are BROWN) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153489 Light Grey Container Box 2 x 2 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151637 White Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 1 & 1/3 with Curved Top http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151623 Black Plate 6 x 16 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151615 White Plate 6 x 16 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151614 Green Plate 6 x 8 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151612 Green Plate 6 x 12 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151610 Green Plate 6 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151608 Green Plate 4 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151607 Red Plate 6 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151597 Red Plate 6 x 10 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151593 Red Radar Dish 4 x 4 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151023 Trans-Neon Green Cylinder 2 x 2 x 1 & 2/3 with Dome Top http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151022 Trans-Dark Blue Panel 1 x 2 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151001 Brown Container Adventurers Chest http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150995 Silver Exhaust Pipe Straight http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150205 Silver Exhaust Pipe Elbow http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150204 Black Slope 55 6 x 1 x 5 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150202 Black Plate, Modified 8 x 8 with Grille http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150193 Red Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150192 Trans-Red Windscreen 4 x 7 x 1 2/3 (includes 2 click hinge pcs to mount ca http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150190 Silver Radar Dish 2 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=149104 White Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=148968 White Technic, Brick 1 x 10 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145107 White Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145106 Black Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145105 White Technic, Brick 1 x 8 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145101 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145081 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145078 Light Grey Technic, Plate 2 x 8 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145074 Blue Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 Double Convex http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145050 Dark Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145045 White Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145044 Dark Grey Landspeeder Engine http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=144001 Trans-White (Clear) Brick 1 x 2 without Centre Studs http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=143789 Light Grey Fence 1 x 4 x 1 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=143743 Green Brick, Round 4 x 4 Corner http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=142712 Yellow Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Stud on Sides USED - good condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134530 Black Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Holes on Sides USED - good condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134528 Blue Radar Dish 6 x 6 Webbed USED - good condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134489 White Wing 7 x 12 Right USED - fair condition (left wing also available) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134479 White Wing 7 x 12 Left USED - fair condition (right wing also available) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134477 Yellow Boat Base 6 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=98310 Dark Grey Boat Bow Plate 6 x 7 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=70278 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Right http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=58899 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Left http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=58898 Red Slope, Inverted 45 4 x 4 Double http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=51113
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:11370 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 225 Lines: 170 19,20c20,21 A selection of items currently in stock at GoB - Lions Gate Models = Brickbay store A selection of items currently in stock at GoB - Lions Gate Models Brickbay store 22c23 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1 24,244c25,189 Tan Technic, Panel Fairing #3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153814=20 =20 Dark Grey Door 6 x 7 Barred including light grey frame to fit = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153810=20 =20 Light Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153712=20 =20 Tan Plate, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 Cross with Dome = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153707=20 =20 Dark Grey Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153703=20 =20 Black Brick 1 x 2 x 5 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153494=20 =20 Yellow Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled (picket fence) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153492=20 =20 Red Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are RED, no printing) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153490=20 =20 Brown Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are BROWN) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153489=20 =20 Light Grey Container Box 2 x 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151637=20 =20 White Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 1 & 1/3 with Curved Top = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151623=20 =20 Black Plate 6 x 16 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151615=20 =20 White Plate 6 x 16 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151614=20 =20 Green Plate 6 x 8 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151612=20 =20 Green Plate 6 x 12 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151610=20 =20 Green Plate 6 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151608=20 =20 Green Plate 4 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151607=20 =20 Red Plate 6 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151597=20 =20 Red Plate 6 x 10 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151593=20 =20 Red Radar Dish 4 x 4 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151023=20 =20 Trans-Neon Green Cylinder 2 x 2 x 1 & 2/3 with Dome Top = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151022=20 =20 Trans-Dark Blue Panel 1 x 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151001=20 =20 Brown Container Adventurers Chest = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150995=20 =20 Silver Exhaust Pipe Straight = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150205=20 =20 Silver Exhaust Pipe Elbow = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150204=20 =20 Black Slope 55 6 x 1 x 5 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150202=20 =20 Black Plate, Modified 8 x 8 with Grille = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150193=20 =20 Red Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150192=20 =20 Trans-Red Windscreen 4 x 7 x 1 2/3 (includes 2 click hinge pcs to mount = ca http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150190=20 =20 Silver Radar Dish 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D149104=20 =20 White Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D148968=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 10 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145107=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145106=20 =20 Black Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145105=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 8 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145101=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145081=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145078=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Plate 2 x 8 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145074=20 =20 Blue Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 Double Convex = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145050=20 =20 Dark Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145045=20 =20 White Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145044=20 =20 Dark Grey Landspeeder Engine = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D144001=20 =20 Trans-White (Clear) Brick 1 x 2 without Centre Studs = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143789=20 =20 Light Grey Fence 1 x 4 x 1 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143743=20 =20 Green Brick, Round 4 x 4 Corner = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D142712=20 =20 Yellow Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Stud on Sides USED - good = condition=20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134530=20 =20 Black Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Holes on Sides USED - good = condition=20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134528=20 =20 Blue Radar Dish 6 x 6 Webbed USED - good condition = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134489=20 =20 White Wing 7 x 12 Right USED - fair condition (left wing also available) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134479=20 =20 White Wing 7 x 12 Left USED - fair condition (right wing also available) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134477=20 =20 Yellow Boat Base 6 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D98310 =20 =20 Dark Grey Boat Bow Plate 6 x 7 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D70278 =20 =20 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Right = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D58899 =20 =20 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Left = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D58898 =20 =20 Red Slope, Inverted 45 4 x 4 Double = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D51113 =20 =20 Tan Technic, Panel Fairing #3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153814 Dark Grey Door 6 x 7 Barred including light grey frame to fit http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153810 Light Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153712 Tan Plate, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 Cross with Dome http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153707 Dark Grey Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153703 Black Brick 1 x 2 x 5 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153494 Yellow Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled (picket fence) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153492 Red Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are RED, no printing) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153490 Brown Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are BROWN) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153489 Light Grey Container Box 2 x 2 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151637 White Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 1 & 1/3 with Curved Top http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151623 Black Plate 6 x 16 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151615 White Plate 6 x 16 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151614 Green Plate 6 x 8 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151612 Green Plate 6 x 12 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151610 Green Plate 6 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151608 Green Plate 4 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151607 Red Plate 6 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151597 Red Plate 6 x 10 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151593 Red Radar Dish 4 x 4 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151023 Trans-Neon Green Cylinder 2 x 2 x 1 & 2/3 with Dome Top http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151022 Trans-Dark Blue Panel 1 x 2 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151001 Brown Container Adventurers Chest http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150995 Silver Exhaust Pipe Straight http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150205 Silver Exhaust Pipe Elbow http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150204 Black Slope 55 6 x 1 x 5 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150202 Black Plate, Modified 8 x 8 with Grille http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150193 Red Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150192 Trans-Red Windscreen 4 x 7 x 1 2/3 (includes 2 click hinge pcs to mount ca http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150190 Silver Radar Dish 2 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=149104 White Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=148968 White Technic, Brick 1 x 10 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145107 White Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145106 Black Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145105 White Technic, Brick 1 x 8 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145101 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145081 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145078 Light Grey Technic, Plate 2 x 8 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145074 Blue Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 Double Convex http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145050 Dark Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145045 White Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145044 Dark Grey Landspeeder Engine http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=144001 Trans-White (Clear) Brick 1 x 2 without Centre Studs http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=143789 Light Grey Fence 1 x 4 x 1 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=143743 Green Brick, Round 4 x 4 Corner http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=142712 Yellow Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Stud on Sides USED - good condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134530 Black Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Holes on Sides USED - good condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134528 Blue Radar Dish 6 x 6 Webbed USED - good condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134489 White Wing 7 x 12 Right USED - fair condition (left wing also available) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134479 White Wing 7 x 12 Left USED - fair condition (right wing also available) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134477 Yellow Boat Base 6 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=98310 Dark Grey Boat Bow Plate 6 x 7 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=70278 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Right http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=58899 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Left http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=58898 Red Slope, Inverted 45 4 x 4 Double http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=51113
lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade:11420 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 253 Lines: 191 19,20c20,21 A selection of items currently in stock at GoB - Lions Gate Models = Brickbay store A selection of items currently in stock at GoB - Lions Gate Models Brickbay store 22c23 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1 24,272c25,210 Orange Radar Dish 6 x 6 Webbed = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D155652=20 =20 Black Panel 4 x 4 x 6 Quarter Circle = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D155646=20 =20 Yellow Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Centre = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D155641=20 =20 Light Grey Plate, Modified 1 x 6 with Train Wagon End = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D155639=20 =20 Light Grey Turntable 4 x 4 Base including top = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D155638=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Steering Rack (made from slightly flexible plastic) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D155637=20 =20 Red Tipper Bucket Small = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D155635=20 =20 Tan Technic, Panel Fairing #3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153814=20 =20 Dark Grey Door 6 x 7 Barred including light grey frame to fit = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153810=20 =20 Light Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153712=20 =20 Tan Plate, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 Cross with Dome = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153707=20 =20 Dark Grey Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153703=20 =20 Black Brick 1 x 2 x 5 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153494=20 =20 Yellow Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled (picket fence) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153492=20 =20 Red Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are RED, no printing) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153490=20 =20 Brown Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are BROWN) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D153489=20 =20 Light Grey Container Box 2 x 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151637=20 =20 White Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 1 & 1/3 with Curved Top = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151623=20 =20 Black Plate 6 x 16 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151615=20 =20 White Plate 6 x 16 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151614=20 =20 Green Plate 6 x 8 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151612=20 =20 Green Plate 6 x 12 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151610=20 =20 Green Plate 6 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151608=20 =20 Green Plate 4 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151607=20 =20 Red Plate 6 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151597=20 =20 Red Plate 6 x 10 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151593=20 =20 Red Radar Dish 4 x 4 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151023=20 =20 Trans-Neon Green Cylinder 2 x 2 x 1 & 2/3 with Dome Top = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151022=20 =20 Trans-Dark Blue Panel 1 x 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D151001=20 =20 Brown Container Adventurers Chest = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150995=20 =20 Silver Exhaust Pipe Straight = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150205=20 =20 Silver Exhaust Pipe Elbow = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150204=20 =20 Black Slope 55 6 x 1 x 5 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150202=20 =20 Black Plate, Modified 8 x 8 with Grille = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150193=20 =20 Red Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150192=20 =20 Trans-Red Windscreen 4 x 7 x 1 2/3 (includes 2 click hinge pcs to mount = ca http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D150190=20 =20 Silver Radar Dish 2 x 2 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D149104=20 =20 White Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D148968=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 10 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145107=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145106=20 =20 Black Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145105=20 =20 White Technic, Brick 1 x 8 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145101=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145081=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145078=20 =20 Light Grey Technic, Plate 2 x 8 with Holes = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145074=20 =20 Blue Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 Double Convex = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145050=20 =20 Dark Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145045=20 =20 White Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D145044=20 =20 Dark Grey Landspeeder Engine = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D144001=20 =20 Trans-White (Clear) Brick 1 x 2 without Centre Studs = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143789=20 =20 Light Grey Fence 1 x 4 x 1 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D143743=20 =20 Green Brick, Round 4 x 4 Corner = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D142712=20 =20 Yellow Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Stud on Sides USED - good = condition=20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134530=20 =20 Black Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Holes on Sides USED - good = condition=20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134528=20 =20 Blue Radar Dish 6 x 6 Webbed USED - good condition = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134489=20 =20 White Wing 7 x 12 Right USED - fair condition (left wing also available) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134479=20 =20 White Wing 7 x 12 Left USED - fair condition (right wing also available) = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D134477=20 =20 Yellow Boat Base 6 x 6 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D98310 =20 =20 Dark Grey Boat Bow Plate 6 x 7 = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D70278 =20 =20 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Right = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D58899 =20 =20 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Left = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D58898 =20 =20 Red Slope, Inverted 45 4 x 4 Double = =20 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dkevinw1&itemID=3D51113 =20 =20 Orange Radar Dish 6 x 6 Webbed http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=155652 Black Panel 4 x 4 x 6 Quarter Circle http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=155646 Yellow Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Centre http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=155641 Light Grey Plate, Modified 1 x 6 with Train Wagon End http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=155639 Light Grey Turntable 4 x 4 Base including top http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=155638 Light Grey Technic, Steering Rack (made from slightly flexible plastic) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=155637 Red Tipper Bucket Small http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=155635 Tan Technic, Panel Fairing #3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153814 Dark Grey Door 6 x 7 Barred including light grey frame to fit http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153810 Light Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153712 Tan Plate, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 Cross with Dome http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153707 Dark Grey Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153703 Black Brick 1 x 2 x 5 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153494 Yellow Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled (picket fence) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153492 Red Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are RED, no printing) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153490 Brown Bird (picture shows dark grey, items are BROWN) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=153489 Light Grey Container Box 2 x 2 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151637 White Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 1 & 1/3 with Curved Top http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151623 Black Plate 6 x 16 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151615 White Plate 6 x 16 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151614 Green Plate 6 x 8 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151612 Green Plate 6 x 12 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151610 Green Plate 6 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151608 Green Plate 4 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151607 Red Plate 6 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151597 Red Plate 6 x 10 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151593 Red Radar Dish 4 x 4 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151023 Trans-Neon Green Cylinder 2 x 2 x 1 & 2/3 with Dome Top http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151022 Trans-Dark Blue Panel 1 x 2 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=151001 Brown Container Adventurers Chest http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150995 Silver Exhaust Pipe Straight http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150205 Silver Exhaust Pipe Elbow http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150204 Black Slope 55 6 x 1 x 5 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150202 Black Plate, Modified 8 x 8 with Grille http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150193 Red Support 2 x 4 x 5 Stanchion Inclined http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150192 Trans-Red Windscreen 4 x 7 x 1 2/3 (includes 2 click hinge pcs to mount ca http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=150190 Silver Radar Dish 2 x 2 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=149104 White Fence 1 x 4 x 2 Paled http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=148968 White Technic, Brick 1 x 10 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145107 White Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145106 Black Technic, Brick 1 x 12 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145105 White Technic, Brick 1 x 8 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145101 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145081 Light Grey Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145078 Light Grey Technic, Plate 2 x 8 with Holes http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145074 Blue Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 Double Convex http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145050 Dark Grey Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145045 White Slope 75 2 x 2 x 3 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=145044 Dark Grey Landspeeder Engine http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=144001 Trans-White (Clear) Brick 1 x 2 without Centre Studs http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=143789 Light Grey Fence 1 x 4 x 1 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=143743 Green Brick, Round 4 x 4 Corner http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=142712 Yellow Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Stud on Sides USED - good condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134530 Black Brick, Modified 2 x 4 x 2 with Holes on Sides USED - good condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134528 Blue Radar Dish 6 x 6 Webbed USED - good condition http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134489 White Wing 7 x 12 Right USED - fair condition (left wing also available) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134479 White Wing 7 x 12 Left USED - fair condition (right wing also available) http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=134477 Yellow Boat Base 6 x 6 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=98310 Dark Grey Boat Bow Plate 6 x 7 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=70278 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Right http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=58899 Dark Grey Wing 8 x 4 Left http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=58898 Red Slope, Inverted 45 4 x 4 Double http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=kevinw1&itemID=51113
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lugnet.market.jambalaya:182 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 25 26,27c27 > = > 30,33c30,31 > suggested in the "How forth shall we go?" thread. I haven't made it rt= l > compliant yet, so this would just go to lugnet groups. Suggestions for= > suggested in the "How forth shall we go?" thread. I haven't made it rtl > compliant yet, so this would just go to lugnet groups. Suggestions for 35,36c33 > = > 38,39c35 > = > 41,44c37,38 > = > A jambalaya box is a collection of LEGO=AE elements. It is sent throug= h > > A jambalaya box is a collection of LEGO® elements. It is sent through 48,49c42 > = >
lugnet.market.services:369 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 70 Lines: 68 21,54c22,54 I fixed some of the percentag errors on my site, The Sanburn Systems = Company http://www.sanburnsystems.com . The problem was the basket = discount option was taking off the discounted total, not the regualr = price total. I have added the 25% off to all fileds now, so it should be = fixed. To all the people that have placed an order since Sunday night, I will = be sending a revised order e-mail to you ASAP. We will work on the = details, probably readjusting your payment price, or some other = porducts. I will try to get them all done today.=20 Here are the corrected percentages that will be taken when you place the = item into your shopping cart: BASIC Bricks - 70% Off=20 BASIC Plates - 70% Off=20 Cylindrical Parts - 70% Off=20 Hinges, Etc. - 70% Off=20 Minifig Parts & Accessories - 70% Off=20 Miscellaneous Parts - 70% Off=20 Sloped & Angled Parts - 70% Off=20 Plants - 70% =20 Tile Parts - 35% Off=20 Decorated Elements - 35% Off=20 Spaceship / Airplane Items - 25% Off=20 Thin Wall Parts - 25% Off=20 TECHNIC Parts - 25% Off=20 Windshields - 25% Off=20 There are still some good parts available, as we want to clear out as = much as possible first before our next update. To help see what is = remaining, I made a little page to show you what's left, and here is the = link, or you can hit the Remaining Parts and Sales link on the homepage: =20 I fixed some of the percentag errors on my site, The Sanburn Systems Company http://www.sanburnsystems.com . The problem was the basket discount option was taking off the discounted total, not the regualr price total. I have added the 25% off to all fileds now, so it should be fixed. To all the people that have placed an order since Sunday night, I will be sending a revised order e-mail to you ASAP. We will work on the details, probably readjusting your payment price, or some other porducts. I will try to get them all done today. Here are the corrected percentages that will be taken when you place the item into your shopping cart: BASIC Bricks - 70% Off BASIC Plates - 70% Off Cylindrical Parts - 70% Off Hinges, Etc. - 70% Off Minifig Parts & Accessories - 70% Off Miscellaneous Parts - 70% Off Sloped & Angled Parts - 70% Off Plants - 70% Tile Parts - 35% Off Decorated Elements - 35% Off Spaceship / Airplane Items - 25% Off Thin Wall Parts - 25% Off TECHNIC Parts - 25% Off Windshields - 25% Off There are still some good parts available, as we want to clear out as much as possible first before our next update. To help see what is remaining, I made a little page to show you what's left, and here is the link, or you can hit the Remaining Parts and Sales link on the homepage: 57c57 The page is not up to date, I will do that as soon as I can.=20 The page is not up to date, I will do that as soon as I can. 59,67c59,67 To see the discount, you need to put the item in the basket, and then = the prices will be adjusted. If you have any questions or concerns, feel = free to e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com=20 A Reminder to all MichLUG members, contact me before ordering at the = e-mail address above. I have to adjust your discount manually.=20 =20 Thank you for your continued support, my sincerest apologies for the = confusion. Thank you. To see the discount, you need to put the item in the basket, and then the prices will be adjusted. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com A Reminder to all MichLUG members, contact me before ordering at the e-mail address above. I have to adjust your discount manually. Thank you for your continued support, my sincerest apologies for the confusion. Thank you. 73,75c73,74 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for
lugnet.market.shipping:296 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 40 Lines: 38 21,40c22,39 After recieving numerous LEGO shipments from various on-line and = retail operations for the past couple of months, Walmart.com & LS@H have = the two worst packages I have seen in a long time.=20 Walmart.com - I ordered numerous large sets from their online sale, and = I got the boxes today. The larger box was a mess. Inside, the box was = half full, and they inserted those air packets to balance the rest. = Unfortunately, they had the sets occupy half the box, a quarter of it = with these air packets, and the rest air! The top of it was smashed in, = and the air packets were pushed down into the sets, crumpling both the = Silver Champions filp up tops.The other sets had crushed sides and the = like. Simply horrible. S@H - Ugh, I can't believe what they do sometimes. I ordered some of = those minifig collections for both myself and the store, and they put it = in a large gray baseplate box, which is not bad, but the box was smashed = on one side, and when I opened it, 4 of the 8 minifig packs boxes were = smashed. Then they put that brown paper in it, like it supposed to = protect the sets or something. It's a good thing I bought half of them = for me! After recieving numerous LEGO shipments from various on-line and retail operations for the past couple of months, Walmart.com & LS@H have the two worst packages I have seen in a long time. Walmart.com - I ordered numerous large sets from their online sale, and I got the boxes today. The larger box was a mess. Inside, the box was half full, and they inserted those air packets to balance the rest. Unfortunately, they had the sets occupy half the box, a quarter of it with these air packets, and the rest air! The top of it was smashed in, and the air packets were pushed down into the sets, crumpling both the Silver Champions filp up tops.The other sets had crushed sides and the like. Simply horrible. S@H - Ugh, I can't believe what they do sometimes. I ordered some of those minifig collections for both myself and the store, and they put it in a large gray baseplate box, which is not bad, but the box was smashed on one side, and when I opened it, 4 of the 8 minifig packs boxes were smashed. Then they put that brown paper in it, like it supposed to protect the sets or something. It's a good thing I bought half of them for me! 49c48 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner=20 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner
lugnet.market.shopping:2361 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 16 Lines: 14 22,25c23,24 >I cleaned out every target in the area (4 of them) except for the one = that >had 6 DDKs at %59.90. I will get them next week when they hit $25. My = wife >I cleaned out every target in the area (4 of them) except for the one that >had 6 DDKs at %59.90. I will get them next week when they hit $25. My wife 36d34
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lugnet.market.shopping:4409 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,28c22,29 I was at TRU today, Lord knows I hate shopping on Saturdays, to pick = a few sets up, and I went in, and they had a guess the how many bricks = are in this model brick contest with this blue Tyranosaurus Rex, built = out of blue Duplo bricks. It looked kind of cheesy, especially since I = have seen many cool models coming from TLG. They had several of the new = Adventurers and Soccer sets, as well as the MTT, which I finally picked = up. I should of had my digitial camera with me, but who knew that would = be there? It looks like they sprucxed up the LEGO aisle at least.=20 I was at TRU today, Lord knows I hate shopping on Saturdays, to pick a few sets up, and I went in, and they had a guess the how many bricks are in this model brick contest with this blue Tyranosaurus Rex, built out of blue Duplo bricks. It looked kind of cheesy, especially since I have seen many cool models coming from TLG. They had several of the new Adventurers and Soccer sets, as well as the MTT, which I finally picked up. I should of had my digitial camera with me, but who knew that would be there? It looks like they sprucxed up the LEGO aisle at least.
lugnet.market.shopping:4410 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 30 21,34c22,33 I was in Meijer's today, looking for a few sets when I came accross = this open 7151 Gungan Sub, in the middle aisle, apart from the usual = LEGO place. There were several marked down Episode 1 toys, and I looked = at the set closely, and saw it was open. I pulled the brown cardboard = insert out to see, and I saw someone must have returned it, because it = was about 70% built, and there were no plastic bags in it, just the = parts and the instructions. Luckily, I saw the Toy area manager there, = and I went to her and showed it to her. She went to the register, put a = marked down sticker on it, and put 17.50 on the price. Yes! The Gungan = Subs at Meijer have been reduced around Ann Arbor to 34.99, which is = nice price to begin with, but at 17.50, it is a steal. I looked more = closely at it when I left, and saw Obi Wan and the other special bricks = were still there, so it is a real good deal. Ah, if only all myt LEGO = finds were like that!=20 I was in Meijer's today, looking for a few sets when I came accross this open 7151 Gungan Sub, in the middle aisle, apart from the usual LEGO place. There were several marked down Episode 1 toys, and I looked at the set closely, and saw it was open. I pulled the brown cardboard insert out to see, and I saw someone must have returned it, because it was about 70% built, and there were no plastic bags in it, just the parts and the instructions. Luckily, I saw the Toy area manager there, and I went to her and showed it to her. She went to the register, put a marked down sticker on it, and put 17.50 on the price. Yes! The Gungan Subs at Meijer have been reduced around Ann Arbor to 34.99, which is nice price to begin with, but at 17.50, it is a steal. I looked more closely at it when I left, and saw Obi Wan and the other special bricks were still there, so it is a real good deal. Ah, if only all myt LEGO finds were like that! 41c40 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner=20 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner
lugnet.market.shopping:4795 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 43 Lines: 41 22,23c23,24 strange downtime over the last few days. My e-mail is not working,=20 however, so if you have any qestions, feel free to e-mail this one. If=20 strange downtime over the last few days. My e-mail is not working, however, so if you have any qestions, feel free to e-mail this one. If 28,29c29,30 7151 Sith Infiltrator, 7144 Slave 1, the 7140 X-Wing, the 7134 A-Wing,=20 the 7131 Anakin's Podracer, the 7130 Snowspeeder, the 7128 Speedbikes,=20 7151 Sith Infiltrator, 7144 Slave 1, the 7140 X-Wing, the 7134 A-Wing, the 7131 Anakin's Podracer, the 7130 Snowspeeder, the 7128 Speedbikes, 31,32c32 7111 Droid Fighter, the 7110 Landspeeder, the 7104 Desert Skiff, and the = 7111 Droid Fighter, the 7110 Landspeeder, the 7104 Desert Skiff, and the 35,40c35,39 There are still a wide variety of rare parts, for great prices,=20 including purple, orange, and green parts, as well as minifigs, bricks,=20 plates, and everything else the LEGO Star Wars line has to offer. I also = have several hundred sets I will be adding as time permits, I will post=20 here when I do. Thanks for your support, and I will see you in=20 There are still a wide variety of rare parts, for great prices, including purple, orange, and green parts, as well as minifigs, bricks, plates, and everything else the LEGO Star Wars line has to offer. I also have several hundred sets I will be adding as time permits, I will post here when I do. Thanks for your support, and I will see you in
lugnet.market.shopping:4912 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 26 20,27c21,27 =20 Well, a week after the 20% sale ended, they just happen to ave the = UCS X-Wing in the Ann Arbor Saline Road Meijer. I was thinking ahead and = got some rain checks for it, along with my discount, so I got a few of = them for a great deal. Remember, you can get anyone to give you a rain = check, mostly it would be in the service area or courtesy desk. Well, I = guess I need to build one of these years, and I will have some for my = sales page too. : ) Well, a week after the 20% sale ended, they just happen to ave the UCS X-Wing in the Ann Arbor Saline Road Meijer. I was thinking ahead and got some rain checks for it, along with my discount, so I got a few of them for a great deal. Remember, you can get anyone to give you a rain check, mostly it would be in the service area or courtesy desk. Well, I guess I need to build one of these years, and I will have some for my sales page too. : )
lugnet.market.shopping:4914 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 46 Lines: 43 21,47c22,45 The free shipping offer is only good for a few more days, until = Monday, August 28th, 2000, and that includes internatonal shipping! We = have received a good number of orders, but we still have a variety of = parts left, everything from minifg accessories to BASIC bricks and = plate, to TECHNIC items, so be sure to check it out. The address is = http://www.sanburnsystems.com=20 After Monday, the free shipping ends, and we will begin on some = markdowns on selected items, which will soon be a regular feature. As = the holiday season approaches, we have several hundred sets that will be = added to the webpage, as well as holiday shipping and even gift wrapping = for any occasion. We have several Star Wars sets that will be added shortly as well, and = you can join our mailing list of when it will be, just drop a line to = cservice@sanburnsystems.,com and say you want to be on the list.=20 The U.S. Domestic shipping will be redone in a short time as well, = Priority shipping will be added, and some categories of prices dropped. = Some parts of the international might be as well, depending on a few = factors.=20 If you have any problems, suggestions, or comments, feel free to e-mail = us here at cservice@sanburnsystems.com or ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com=20 Thanks for your support, as we approach the end of summer, and the = beginnings of the fall season, remember The Sanburn Systems Company, the = best source for LEGO Elements on the web! Have a great weekend!=20 The free shipping offer is only good for a few more days, until Monday, August 28th, 2000, and that includes internatonal shipping! We have received a good number of orders, but we still have a variety of parts left, everything from minifg accessories to BASIC bricks and plate, to TECHNIC items, so be sure to check it out. The address is http://www.sanburnsystems.com After Monday, the free shipping ends, and we will begin on some markdowns on selected items, which will soon be a regular feature. As the holiday season approaches, we have several hundred sets that will be added to the webpage, as well as holiday shipping and even gift wrapping for any occasion. We have several Star Wars sets that will be added shortly as well, and you can join our mailing list of when it will be, just drop a line to cservice@sanburnsystems.,com and say you want to be on the list. The U.S. Domestic shipping will be redone in a short time as well, Priority shipping will be added, and some categories of prices dropped. Some parts of the international might be as well, depending on a few factors. If you have any problems, suggestions, or comments, feel free to e-mail us here at cservice@sanburnsystems.com or ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com Thanks for your support, as we approach the end of summer, and the beginnings of the fall season, remember The Sanburn Systems Company, the best source for LEGO Elements on the web! Have a great weekend!
lugnet.market.shopping:5157 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 27 19,28c20,28 To All,=20 =20 We here at The Sanburn Systems Company have lowered prices on some = parts, and we have a partial list on the website under Sales / Price = Reductions link. We will be adding more soon, but there are some listed = there now. We are almost finished with another inventory update, and we = will be adding several more new sets soon. We have some additional = people helping out soon, as we are gearing up for the holiday season, = with things like personal gift cards and gift wrapping. Thanks for your = continued support, and have a great week! To All, We here at The Sanburn Systems Company have lowered prices on some parts, and we have a partial list on the website under Sales / Price Reductions link. We will be adding more soon, but there are some listed there now. We are almost finished with another inventory update, and we will be adding several more new sets soon. We have some additional people helping out soon, as we are gearing up for the holiday season, with things like personal gift cards and gift wrapping. Thanks for your continued support, and have a great week! 37c37 =20
lugnet.market.shopping:5259 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 21,29c22,29 In recent times, members of our fine community on LUGNET have = saturated numerous companies offering deals on various LEGO themes, and = the companies either not honoring orders, or other such problems. A few = weeks ago, I heard of a new website named Ecomplaints.com, which does = log complaints about any businesses. The Airlines and a websaite called = crafts.com are the owrst right now, but I feel we can at least warn = people off from bad sites using this, a recent example being the Warner = brothers site. So check it out, and keep it for reference. Fortunately, = my busniess has not been complained about yet. : )=20 In recent times, members of our fine community on LUGNET have saturated numerous companies offering deals on various LEGO themes, and the companies either not honoring orders, or other such problems. A few weeks ago, I heard of a new website named Ecomplaints.com, which does log complaints about any businesses. The Airlines and a websaite called crafts.com are the owrst right now, but I feel we can at least warn people off from bad sites using this, a recent example being the Warner brothers site. So check it out, and keep it for reference. Fortunately, my busniess has not been complained about yet. : )
lugnet.market.shopping:5429 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 68 Lines: 65 20,68c21,66 =20 We here at the Sanburn Systems Company would like to thank each one of = you for your past support and busniess, and we are looking forward to = providing service to you again. We have updated our current inventory = with several thousand parts, all ranging from the current LEGO System = Star Wars line. We have included several copies of each of the = following: 7101 Light Saber Duel, 7104 Desert Skiff, 7110 Landspeeder, = 7111 Droid Fighter, 7115 Gungan Patrol, 7121 Naboo Swamp, 7124 = Flashspeeder, 7128 Speederbikes, 7130 Snowspeeder, 7134 A Wing, 7140 X = Wing, 7141 Naboo Fighter, 7144 Slave 1, 7150 Tie Fighter / Y Wing, 7151 = Sith Infiltrator, 7160 Gungan Sub, 7171 Mos Espa Podrace, and 7180 B = Wing at Rebel Command Center. We are also adding some parts we missed in = the first inventory addition, as well as instruction manuals.=20 We have made some vast improvements in our payment modules. You can now = select Paypal or x.com or check money order or cash payments from the = payment menu, and process it fully, just like the credit card payment = option. This will make using these options far better for everyone, = including us. We are really excited about it, and I am sure you will be = as well.=20 We have also added a discount module to our site, so we will be having = category specific sales every week, which will start soon. Our first priority is to get some other newer Star Wars sets into = inventory, namely 7184, the MTT, and the 7155, the AAT Tank. We also = will add first, the Ultimate Collector's Series X Wing, and the Droid = Discovery Mindstorms kit. We will continue to add new sets for the next = several weeks. We have around 500 sets to add. We will send an e-mail = when they are up. We have additional help, and a better stock process, = which will go faster, and smoother than before.=20 We have several parts tagged for price reductions, and we will be = changing those shortly. As the holidays draw near, we will be adding some gift wrapping = capabilities for gifts, and even some personal cards in the mix. That = will be added shortly. You can already send the order to another address = if you wish, it is included within the current ordering form.=20 As always, if you are looking for a particular part, or have a question = on a where a part might be, feel free to e-mail us here. If you would = like to make an offer for the whole inventory of a certain part, feel = free to e-mail us here with the bid, we usually accept it, within = reason. We also welcome any suggestions, comments, and the like, we love = hearing from you! (cservice@sanburnsystems.com ) =20 Thank you for your business, we hope you will have a great rest of the = week, and as always, happy building! : ) We here at the Sanburn Systems Company would like to thank each one of you for your past support and busniess, and we are looking forward to providing service to you again. We have updated our current inventory with several thousand parts, all ranging from the current LEGO System Star Wars line. We have included several copies of each of the following: 7101 Light Saber Duel, 7104 Desert Skiff, 7110 Landspeeder, 7111 Droid Fighter, 7115 Gungan Patrol, 7121 Naboo Swamp, 7124 Flashspeeder, 7128 Speederbikes, 7130 Snowspeeder, 7134 A Wing, 7140 X Wing, 7141 Naboo Fighter, 7144 Slave 1, 7150 Tie Fighter / Y Wing, 7151 Sith Infiltrator, 7160 Gungan Sub, 7171 Mos Espa Podrace, and 7180 B Wing at Rebel Command Center. We are also adding some parts we missed in the first inventory addition, as well as instruction manuals. We have made some vast improvements in our payment modules. You can now select Paypal or x.com or check money order or cash payments from the payment menu, and process it fully, just like the credit card payment option. This will make using these options far better for everyone, including us. We are really excited about it, and I am sure you will be as well. We have also added a discount module to our site, so we will be having category specific sales every week, which will start soon. Our first priority is to get some other newer Star Wars sets into inventory, namely 7184, the MTT, and the 7155, the AAT Tank. We also will add first, the Ultimate Collector's Series X Wing, and the Droid Discovery Mindstorms kit. We will continue to add new sets for the next several weeks. We have around 500 sets to add. We will send an e-mail when they are up. We have additional help, and a better stock process, which will go faster, and smoother than before. We have several parts tagged for price reductions, and we will be changing those shortly. As the holidays draw near, we will be adding some gift wrapping capabilities for gifts, and even some personal cards in the mix. That will be added shortly. You can already send the order to another address if you wish, it is included within the current ordering form. As always, if you are looking for a particular part, or have a question on a where a part might be, feel free to e-mail us here. If you would like to make an offer for the whole inventory of a certain part, feel free to e-mail us here with the bid, we usually accept it, within reason. We also welcome any suggestions, comments, and the like, we love hearing from you! (cservice@sanburnsystems.com ) Thank you for your business, we hope you will have a great rest of the week, and as always, happy building! : )
lugnet.market.shopping:5732 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 52 Lines: 50 21,24c22,25 I just wanted to say thanks for the continued responses I have had = for the past few months, it has been busy, but I am glad I can provide = for the continuing expanding AFOL's coming to LUGNET. Again, I want to = give a big thanks to Todd, who manages this wonderful venue for this.=20 I just wanted to say thanks for the continued responses I have had for the past few months, it has been busy, but I am glad I can provide for the continuing expanding AFOL's coming to LUGNET. Again, I want to give a big thanks to Todd, who manages this wonderful venue for this. 26,31c27,32 Anyway, my straight sales site, The Sanburn Systems Company, = http://www.sanburnsystems.com, the inventory is back online, I think I = fixed the majority of glitches with the inventory, I hope, and the whole = inventory is back and available to purchase from. My e-mail to LUGNET is = not working properly anymore, so I am using my personal e-mail. I try to = answer them both in a timely manner.=20 Anyway, my straight sales site, The Sanburn Systems Company, http://www.sanburnsystems.com, the inventory is back online, I think I fixed the majority of glitches with the inventory, I hope, and the whole inventory is back and available to purchase from. My e-mail to LUGNET is not working properly anymore, so I am using my personal e-mail. I try to answer them both in a timely manner. 33,44c34,43 Another note I would like to say is that I am having a hard time trying = to get my discounts working properly. To all the people from the first = MICHLUG meeting, I will have to continue to do it manually for the time = being. Once I do get the discount program working within normal = operating parameters, I will start having weekly sales on various = categories.=20 =20 Also, for the people that have contacted me with personal requests, I do = have them still, and I am trying my best to get them ready. My schedule = has been pretty rotten for the past few weeks, as my work load from my = two primary jobs has increased. I should have more time starting next = week.=20 Another note I would like to say is that I am having a hard time trying to get my discounts working properly. To all the people from the first MICHLUG meeting, I will have to continue to do it manually for the time being. Once I do get the discount program working within normal operating parameters, I will start having weekly sales on various categories. Also, for the people that have contacted me with personal requests, I do have them still, and I am trying my best to get them ready. My schedule has been pretty rotten for the past few weeks, as my work load from my two primary jobs has increased. I should have more time starting next week. 46,52c45,51 Hopefully, by the end of next week, I can add some sets I have bought, = namely the MTT, the AAT, and the Star Wars Bucket from the Star Wars = line. I will also start on the UCS series, some of the Mindstorms sets, = and finally the other castle, town, and space sets I have. =20 =20 If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail me personally, and I hope = all of you have a great evening and weekend. Thanks! Hopefully, by the end of next week, I can add some sets I have bought, namely the MTT, the AAT, and the Star Wars Bucket from the Star Wars line. I will also start on the UCS series, some of the Mindstorms sets, and finally the other castle, town, and space sets I have. If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail me personally, and I hope all of you have a great evening and weekend. Thanks!
lugnet.market.shopping:5861 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 We are having a 25% off all orders special through this weekend to=20 clear out some space for the new sets that are going to be added into=20 the inventory soon. There are no special codes, minimums, or anything,=20 We are having a 25% off all orders special through this weekend to clear out some space for the new sets that are going to be added into the inventory soon. There are no special codes, minimums, or anything, 26,27c27,28 Thank you all for your continued support, I am very thankful for that. I = hope everyone had a great=20 Thank you all for your continued support, I am very thankful for that. I hope everyone had a great
lugnet.market.shopping:5942 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 26 21,28c22,28 With the success of the 25% after Thanksgiving sale, and the fact = that my internet connection has been off and on since Saturday, I have = decided to extend the 25% percent off sale until this Sunday, December = 3rd. So if you missed the first time, be sure to look around, as we = still have thousands of parts in every category that Star Wars LEGO sets = has, even some of the new parts that I am processing as fast as = possible, namely the 7155 AAT and the 7184 MTT. Thank you for your = business, and have a great rest of the week.=20 With the success of the 25% after Thanksgiving sale, and the fact that my internet connection has been off and on since Saturday, I have decided to extend the 25% percent off sale until this Sunday, December 3rd. So if you missed the first time, be sure to look around, as we still have thousands of parts in every category that Star Wars LEGO sets has, even some of the new parts that I am processing as fast as possible, namely the 7155 AAT and the 7184 MTT. Thank you for your business, and have a great rest of the week.
lugnet.market.shopping:6017 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 27 21,29c22,29 We have had a great response to our sale so far, I just wanted to = remind everyone that the 25% off all orders sale ends this Sunday, = albeit another Internet Service crash. There are still a lot of = different parts in every category, so be sure to look around. We have a = lot of additional parts from multiple sets we are slowly adding, so the = selection will be expanding even more in the coming weeks. Thanks for = your busniess, and if you have any questions or comments, feel free to = e-mail me at ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com . Have a great weekend, and a = wonderful holiday season! We have had a great response to our sale so far, I just wanted to remind everyone that the 25% off all orders sale ends this Sunday, albeit another Internet Service crash. There are still a lot of different parts in every category, so be sure to look around. We have a lot of additional parts from multiple sets we are slowly adding, so the selection will be expanding even more in the coming weeks. Thanks for your busniess, and if you have any questions or comments, feel free to e-mail me at ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com . Have a great weekend, and a wonderful holiday season!
lugnet.market.shopping:6032 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 Just a friendly reminder that I will be taking off the sale around = 12:00AM EST tonight. We still have thousands of parts just waiting to be = bought, so be sure to look around. Just a friendly reminder that I will be taking off the sale around 12:00AM EST tonight. We still have thousands of parts just waiting to be bought, so be sure to look around. 25,28c26,29 Also, after this sale, several parts will go down in price, since I know = know a general sense of what parts are desired. This will happen in the = coming weeks, along with the addition of several new parts. Thanks for = all of your business, I hope you have a great week! Also, after this sale, several parts will go down in price, since I know know a general sense of what parts are desired. This will happen in the coming weeks, along with the addition of several new parts. Thanks for all of your business, I hope you have a great week! 36c37 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner=20 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner
lugnet.market.shopping:6185 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 37 21,30c22,30 I finally got around to figuring out how to have category specific = sales on my website, so I started off with 35% off all colors of BASIC = Plates & Bricks. In order to see the 35% off Basket Discount, you need = to add an item in your shopping cart of either the BASIC Bricks or BASIC = Plates categories, then all the prices will change accordingly. If you = have any questions, feel free to e-mail us at = cservice@sanburnsystems.com I also added an additional 15% off all = orders as well, so you can save a total of 50% off all BASIC Bricks and = Plates, so it is a great deal! Shop early for best selection! So, in = summary, 15% off all orders, and 50% off all BASIC Bricks and Plates.=20 I finally got around to figuring out how to have category specific sales on my website, so I started off with 35% off all colors of BASIC Plates & Bricks. In order to see the 35% off Basket Discount, you need to add an item in your shopping cart of either the BASIC Bricks or BASIC Plates categories, then all the prices will change accordingly. If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail us at cservice@sanburnsystems.com I also added an additional 15% off all orders as well, so you can save a total of 50% off all BASIC Bricks and Plates, so it is a great deal! Shop early for best selection! So, in summary, 15% off all orders, and 50% off all BASIC Bricks and Plates. 32,34c32,34 Finally, we are working on another inventory update, and we are getting = ready to put non Star Wars elements on the page, so be sure to look for = that in the coming weeks. Check the New parts link to see the latest.=20 Finally, we are working on another inventory update, and we are getting ready to put non Star Wars elements on the page, so be sure to look for that in the coming weeks. Check the New parts link to see the latest. 36,39c36,39 If you have any questions or problems about our site, we would love to = hear it. Thank you for your continued business, and we want to extend = our warmest wishes to have a wonderul and happy hoiliday season to you = and yours. Have a great week! : ) If you have any questions or problems about our site, we would love to hear it. Thank you for your continued business, and we want to extend our warmest wishes to have a wonderul and happy hoiliday season to you and yours. Have a great week! : ) 47c47 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner=20 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner
lugnet.market.shopping:6246 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 51 Lines: 48 21,51c22,49 The 15% to 50% off sale seems to be a good success, and I want to = thank you all for the business. There are still several bricks and = plates in stock, from black to light gray to red, so be sure to look = throughout those two categories, BASIC Bricks & BASIC Plates, for your = 50 off order. I have also fixed the Black and Tan bricks problem. I will = be having this specific sale at least until December 26th, and then I = will be changing the 50% off to other categories, cycling through until = I sell most of my inventory, to make some room. The 15% will remain in = effect however for awhile. =20 As for this holiday, I will try my best to get all of the outstanding = orders out tomorrow, at the latest Saturday. I will then be leaving for = my parents house, and will be gone until late Monday night, and I will = not be doing any business related things until then.=20 Also, my e-mail seems to be experiencing difficulty sending anything = out, so if you have specific questions, feel free to respond to = ssanburn@cleanweb.net until I can figure it out. To those of you waiting = on parts, I am going to try to get most of them out tomorrow, since I = have half a day off of my primary job.=20 I will try to restock parts soon, but I want to clear out some existing = parts first, and I will be lowering prices on several selected parts, I = have about 40 picked out so far. I am making progress on a lot of sets, = I have about 15 almost ready to add to the website, and more on the way. = I want to thank all of my customers for their support, I have had a good = half a year, and I want to extend best wishes for a fun, happy, and safe = holiday season. Have a great night, and I hope Santa gets you all those = LEGO items you have wanted! : ) The 15% to 50% off sale seems to be a good success, and I want to thank you all for the business. There are still several bricks and plates in stock, from black to light gray to red, so be sure to look throughout those two categories, BASIC Bricks & BASIC Plates, for your 50 off order. I have also fixed the Black and Tan bricks problem. I will be having this specific sale at least until December 26th, and then I will be changing the 50% off to other categories, cycling through until I sell most of my inventory, to make some room. The 15% will remain in effect however for awhile. As for this holiday, I will try my best to get all of the outstanding orders out tomorrow, at the latest Saturday. I will then be leaving for my parents house, and will be gone until late Monday night, and I will not be doing any business related things until then. Also, my e-mail seems to be experiencing difficulty sending anything out, so if you have specific questions, feel free to respond to ssanburn@cleanweb.net until I can figure it out. To those of you waiting on parts, I am going to try to get most of them out tomorrow, since I have half a day off of my primary job. I will try to restock parts soon, but I want to clear out some existing parts first, and I will be lowering prices on several selected parts, I have about 40 picked out so far. I am making progress on a lot of sets, I have about 15 almost ready to add to the website, and more on the way. I want to thank all of my customers for their support, I have had a good half a year, and I want to extend best wishes for a fun, happy, and safe holiday season. Have a great night, and I hope Santa gets you all those LEGO items you have wanted! : ) 59,60c57,58 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner =20 =20 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner
lugnet.market.shopping:6302 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 41 Lines: 36 21,22c22 First, we want to wish all of you a very safe and prosperous New = Year. First, we want to wish all of you a very safe and prosperous New Year. 26,34c26,30 We here at The Sanburn Systems Company, www.sanburnsystems.com,=20 are currently having a pretty nice sale, 45% Off all remaining BASIC = Bricks=20 & BASIC Plates, and 35% Off all parts in the Cylindrical Parts, Hinges = Etc.,=20 and Miscellaneous Parts Categories. We are also having a 25% Off all = orders=20 sale as well, so your potential for savings is anywhere from 25% to 70% = off=20 We here at The Sanburn Systems Company, www.sanburnsystems.com, are currently having a pretty nice sale, 45% Off all remaining BASIC Bricks & BASIC Plates, and 35% Off all parts in the Cylindrical Parts, Hinges Etc., and Miscellaneous Parts Categories. We are also having a 25% Off all orders sale as well, so your potential for savings is anywhere from 25% to 70% off 38,40c34,36 available easier. The products are still there, we just wanted to make = it a little easier to see what is available.=20 available easier. The products are still there, we just wanted to make it a little easier to see what is available.
lugnet.market.shopping:6558 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 35 21,23c22,23 After a brief timeout for the GATS Train Show, The Sanburn Systems = Company is back at home and we have put more categories on sale, here is = the list: After a brief timeout for the GATS Train Show, The Sanburn Systems Company is back at home and we have put more categories on sale, here is the list: 27,30c27,30 B) Cylindrical Parts, Hinges, Etc. & Miscellaneous Parts- 35% Off = (Total of 60% Off) C) NEW! Sloped & Angled Parts, Minifig Parts & Accessories, and Tile = Parts - 25% off (Total of 50% Off) B) Cylindrical Parts, Hinges, Etc. & Miscellaneous Parts- 35% Off (Total of 60% Off) C) NEW! Sloped & Angled Parts, Minifig Parts & Accessories, and Tile Parts - 25% off (Total of 50% Off) 32,37c32,37 It is a great time to stock up on parts right now, so be sure to take a = look for best selection. I have a few outstanding orders, and I will = send those out ASAP. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to = e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com Thanks for the continued = support, as I start my second year of business, even if I was only open = for 6 of the months! Have a great night! : ) It is a great time to stock up on parts right now, so be sure to take a look for best selection. I have a few outstanding orders, and I will send those out ASAP. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com Thanks for the continued support, as I start my second year of business, even if I was only open for 6 of the months! Have a great night! : )
lugnet.market.shopping:6858 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 57 Lines: 56 21,23c22,24 We here at ThE Sanburn Systems Company http://www.sanburnsystems.com = have continued our Category sales, adding more categories, and added = further discounts to existing sales. Here is our current list: We here at ThE Sanburn Systems Company http://www.sanburnsystems.com have continued our Category sales, adding more categories, and added further discounts to existing sales. Here is our current list: 32c33 - Plants - 45%=20 - Plants - 45% 40,57c41,57 We are in the process of restocking the store, which should be done in = the next few weeks. We are looking at scaling back most of our prices as = well, which will be available when our new stock is added. We have added = the parts from the 7155 Trade Federation AAT and the 7184 Trade = Federation MTT as well, which will be available on the next stock = update. We have several other sets as well which should be ready by = then.=20 =20 As a special note, all current members of MICHLUG who are receiving the = discount, your discount does not work properly with the Category sales, = please e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com for specific = instructions. Basically you cannot log in to make an order, if you do, = the discount overrides any category sales. =20 It is a great time to stock up on our remaining parts right now, so be = sure to take a look now for the best selection. If you have any = questions or comments, feel free to e-mail me at = cservice@sanburnsystems.com Thanks for the continued support! We are in the process of restocking the store, which should be done in the next few weeks. We are looking at scaling back most of our prices as well, which will be available when our new stock is added. We have added the parts from the 7155 Trade Federation AAT and the 7184 Trade Federation MTT as well, which will be available on the next stock update. We have several other sets as well which should be ready by then. As a special note, all current members of MICHLUG who are receiving the discount, your discount does not work properly with the Category sales, please e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com for specific instructions. Basically you cannot log in to make an order, if you do, the discount overrides any category sales. It is a great time to stock up on our remaining parts right now, so be sure to take a look now for the best selection. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com Thanks for the continued support!
lugnet.market.shopping:6923 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 44 Lines: 41 21,35c22,35 After sitting through a boring lunch seminar on the operating = procedures of boilers, specs, etc. (Yawn) I was sketching up plans for a = new fire station when I showed my friend Tony. he said, good luck = getting those 2x2 corner for the angled parts of the roof! I suddenly realized, he's right, darn it! After the meeting, I went = down, finished up some printing I had to do, and went to Pause looking = for the reference, ah 5216. Then I proceded to the LEGO catalogs that I = always have handy. Looked at the Holiday 2000 catalog, didn't see any. = Then I went to the Winter 2001 Mars Attacks cover, still not there. = Panicked, checked the website. Could not find it. : ( Finally, I called = S@H and asked, do you ahve any 5216's left? The friendly lady said yes. = Well, after 10 5216's were ordered, plus a bunch of bulk roof parts, I = am ready for my next project. Well, after my shipment of garage doors = comes in at least! After sitting through a boring lunch seminar on the operating procedures of boilers, specs, etc. (Yawn) I was sketching up plans for a new fire station when I showed my friend Tony. he said, good luck getting those 2x2 corner for the angled parts of the roof! I suddenly realized, he's right, darn it! After the meeting, I went down, finished up some printing I had to do, and went to Pause looking for the reference, ah 5216. Then I proceded to the LEGO catalogs that I always have handy. Looked at the Holiday 2000 catalog, didn't see any. Then I went to the Winter 2001 Mars Attacks cover, still not there. Panicked, checked the website. Could not find it. : ( Finally, I called S@H and asked, do you ahve any 5216's left? The friendly lady said yes. Well, after 10 5216's were ordered, plus a bunch of bulk roof parts, I am ready for my next project. Well, after my shipment of garage doors comes in at least! 37,38c37 In conclusion, if you are looking for 5216, they still have them. Very = handy! In conclusion, if you are looking for 5216, they still have them. Very handy! 46,48c45,46 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for
lugnet.market.shopping:6938 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 I am still having a great sale at my site, The Sanburn Systems = Company, http://www.sanburnsystems.com . Here are the current sales: I am still having a great sale at my site, The Sanburn Systems Company, http://www.sanburnsystems.com . Here are the current sales: 24,44c25,45 BASIC Bricks - 45% Off=20 BASIC Plates - 45% Off=20 Cylindrical Parts - 45% Off=20 Hinges, Etc. - 45% Off=20 Minifig Parts & Accessories - 45% Off=20 Miscellaneous Parts - 45% Off=20 Sloped & Angled Parts - 45% Off=20 Plants - 45% =20 Tile Parts - 35% Off=20 Decorated Elements - 25% Off=20 Spaceship / Airplane Items - 25% Off=20 Thin Wall Parts - 25% Off=20 TECHNIC Parts - 25% Off=20 Windshields - 25% Off=20 There are still some good parts available, another stock update is = coming, but we want to clear out as much as possible first. All orders = will have a 25% basket Discount at the end of the order, so your order = could be as much as 70% off regular prices. To help see what is = remaining, I made a little page to show you what's left, and here is the = link, or you can hit the Remaining Parts and Sales link on the homepage: BASIC Bricks - 45% Off BASIC Plates - 45% Off Cylindrical Parts - 45% Off Hinges, Etc. - 45% Off Minifig Parts & Accessories - 45% Off Miscellaneous Parts - 45% Off Sloped & Angled Parts - 45% Off Plants - 45% Tile Parts - 35% Off Decorated Elements - 25% Off Spaceship / Airplane Items - 25% Off Thin Wall Parts - 25% Off TECHNIC Parts - 25% Off Windshields - 25% Off There are still some good parts available, another stock update is coming, but we want to clear out as much as possible first. All orders will have a 25% basket Discount at the end of the order, so your order could be as much as 70% off regular prices. To help see what is remaining, I made a little page to show you what's left, and here is the link, or you can hit the Remaining Parts and Sales link on the homepage: 48,51c49,52 To see the discount, you need to put the item in the basket, and then = the prices will be adjusted. The Basket discount will be given at the = end of the order. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to = e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com =20 To see the discount, you need to put the item in the basket, and then the prices will be adjusted. The Basket discount will be given at the end of the order. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com 53,54c54,55 A Reminder to all MichLUG members, contact me before ordering at the = e-mail address above.=20 A Reminder to all MichLUG members, contact me before ordering at the e-mail address above. 56c57 Thank you for your continued support, and have a great week!=20 Thank you for your continued support, and have a great week!
lugnet.market.shopping:6940 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 41 Lines: 35 22,31c23,27 http://www.sanrbunsystems.com I mistakenly added the discount on the = parts (0 to 45%) with the final total 25% off on the basket, coming up with = 70% off. This is incorrect, and I will fix this as soon as possible. I will = fix it so the basket discount is no longer there, and the correct = percentages will come up. For all the people that ordered before, please contact me = at http://www.sanrbunsystems.com I mistakenly added the discount on the parts (0 to 45%) with the final total 25% off on the basket, coming up with 70% off. This is incorrect, and I will fix this as soon as possible. I will fix it so the basket discount is no longer there, and the correct percentages will come up. For all the people that ordered before, please contact me at 35,36c31 Any further questions can be addressed to ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com I = need Any further questions can be addressed to ssanburn@sanburnsystems.com I need
lugnet.market.shopping:6947 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 70 Lines: 68 21,54c22,54 I fixed some of the percentag errors on my site, The Sanburn Systems = Company http://www.sanburnsystems.com . The problem was the basket = discount option was taking off the discounted total, not the regualr = price total. I have added the 25% off to all fileds now, so it should be = fixed. To all the people that have placed an order since Sunday night, I will = be sending a revised order e-mail to you ASAP. We will work on the = details, probably readjusting your payment price, or some other = porducts. I will try to get them all done today.=20 Here are the corrected percentages that will be taken when you place the = item into your shopping cart: BASIC Bricks - 70% Off=20 BASIC Plates - 70% Off=20 Cylindrical Parts - 70% Off=20 Hinges, Etc. - 70% Off=20 Minifig Parts & Accessories - 70% Off=20 Miscellaneous Parts - 70% Off=20 Sloped & Angled Parts - 70% Off=20 Plants - 70% =20 Tile Parts - 35% Off=20 Decorated Elements - 35% Off=20 Spaceship / Airplane Items - 25% Off=20 Thin Wall Parts - 25% Off=20 TECHNIC Parts - 25% Off=20 Windshields - 25% Off=20 There are still some good parts available, as we want to clear out as = much as possible first before our next update. To help see what is = remaining, I made a little page to show you what's left, and here is the = link, or you can hit the Remaining Parts and Sales link on the homepage: =20 I fixed some of the percentag errors on my site, The Sanburn Systems Company http://www.sanburnsystems.com . The problem was the basket discount option was taking off the discounted total, not the regualr price total. I have added the 25% off to all fileds now, so it should be fixed. To all the people that have placed an order since Sunday night, I will be sending a revised order e-mail to you ASAP. We will work on the details, probably readjusting your payment price, or some other porducts. I will try to get them all done today. Here are the corrected percentages that will be taken when you place the item into your shopping cart: BASIC Bricks - 70% Off BASIC Plates - 70% Off Cylindrical Parts - 70% Off Hinges, Etc. - 70% Off Minifig Parts & Accessories - 70% Off Miscellaneous Parts - 70% Off Sloped & Angled Parts - 70% Off Plants - 70% Tile Parts - 35% Off Decorated Elements - 35% Off Spaceship / Airplane Items - 25% Off Thin Wall Parts - 25% Off TECHNIC Parts - 25% Off Windshields - 25% Off There are still some good parts available, as we want to clear out as much as possible first before our next update. To help see what is remaining, I made a little page to show you what's left, and here is the link, or you can hit the Remaining Parts and Sales link on the homepage: 57c57 The page is not up to date, I will do that as soon as I can.=20 The page is not up to date, I will do that as soon as I can. 59,67c59,67 To see the discount, you need to put the item in the basket, and then = the prices will be adjusted. If you have any questions or concerns, feel = free to e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com=20 A Reminder to all MichLUG members, contact me before ordering at the = e-mail address above. I have to adjust your discount manually.=20 =20 Thank you for your continued support, my sincerest apologies for the = confusion. Thank you. To see the discount, you need to put the item in the basket, and then the prices will be adjusted. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to e-mail me at cservice@sanburnsystems.com A Reminder to all MichLUG members, contact me before ordering at the e-mail address above. I have to adjust your discount manually. Thank you for your continued support, my sincerest apologies for the confusion. Thank you. 73,75c73,74 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for
lugnet.market.shopping:7049 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 90 Lines: 83 21,84c22,79 The heading says it all. After almost a year in business, and a = pretty decent margin, my wife and I have decided to close my site, = http://www.sanburnsystems.com . I have already disabled the shopping = cart for a few reasons. The decision was not an easy ne to make, but I = have listed a few here for you:=20 1) My host seems to upgrade the shopping cart every few months, costing = me several hundred dollars, which I can no longer can afford. The last = update has lost a few orders, and upset my inventory yet again. I am = very upset about this, as I can open a Brickbay store and have an easier = time of it. I also have to pay for the upgrade service fee, and a module = update one as well. It is getting ridiculous, and I cannot afford it any = longer. =20 2) My wife is completing her studies to be a Pharmicist, and her = acceptance of a job in South Bend, Indiana, will make my life easier, as = I will not have to work as hard as I have been. She will be earning = about threee times as much as I am, and financially, I don't really need = to do this anymore. Truthfully, she never really liked me starting this, = and is glad I decided to accept this. She doesn't like sorting for the = business anyway! : )=20 3) I have secured employment in the South Bend Area and will be moving = there shortly, as soon as I take a few employment tests. I will be = focusing on getting set up there, and will have little time to do much = in terms of the business.=20 4) As I have poured a significant amount of time and energy into my = site, with my schedule, it is hard to maintain, and I decided that I = would like some time to build again. My wife has seen this as well.=20 This has been one of the hardest decisions of my life, but I think it is = the best for my life and my marriage at this point. It is more than = ironic that Brickbay and my site opened up the same day. If Brickbay was = around when I started looking for a site, things would have been very = different. When I started my site, I knew there was a huge gap in the = LEGO market for something like Brickbay, and I am glad that hole has = been filled. As some of you know, I have been on it since January, and = have been impressed, and have gotten some of my esteemed Futuron = minifigs. : ) I do have some unresolved orders I will continue to fulfill, if you have = an outstanding order, feel free to e-mail me at ssanburn@cleanweb.net, I = want to wrap those up ASAP. =20 I will be auctioning off my remaining sets and parts on E-Bay, to = produce some needed cash and to finalize this. I was seriously thinking = of opening a Brickbay store, but decided to just end it at this point. I = might set up one in the future.=20 All information gathered on my site will be deleted, as well as any = information in my records will be destroyed as well. I will be finishing = my books for this tax season. Feel free to e-mail me with conerns or = questions.=20 Finally, I just wanted to say thank you for all of your support over the = last year, I have enjoyed helping fellow LEGO Maniacs continue to make = great creations. It has been fun. I am looking forward to starting over, = in many aspects, from our new life for my wife and I, to having time to = build again, which I have not had for a few years, between college and = working three / four jobs. I am looking forward to contributing to the = train shows and to help MichLUG along, it is such a thrill to have = fellow LEGO maniacs around. =20 The heading says it all. After almost a year in business, and a pretty decent margin, my wife and I have decided to close my site, http://www.sanburnsystems.com . I have already disabled the shopping cart for a few reasons. The decision was not an easy ne to make, but I have listed a few here for you: 1) My host seems to upgrade the shopping cart every few months, costing me several hundred dollars, which I can no longer can afford. The last update has lost a few orders, and upset my inventory yet again. I am very upset about this, as I can open a Brickbay store and have an easier time of it. I also have to pay for the upgrade service fee, and a module update one as well. It is getting ridiculous, and I cannot afford it any longer. 2) My wife is completing her studies to be a Pharmicist, and her acceptance of a job in South Bend, Indiana, will make my life easier, as I will not have to work as hard as I have been. She will be earning about threee times as much as I am, and financially, I don't really need to do this anymore. Truthfully, she never really liked me starting this, and is glad I decided to accept this. She doesn't like sorting for the business anyway! : ) 3) I have secured employment in the South Bend Area and will be moving there shortly, as soon as I take a few employment tests. I will be focusing on getting set up there, and will have little time to do much in terms of the business. 4) As I have poured a significant amount of time and energy into my site, with my schedule, it is hard to maintain, and I decided that I would like some time to build again. My wife has seen this as well. This has been one of the hardest decisions of my life, but I think it is the best for my life and my marriage at this point. It is more than ironic that Brickbay and my site opened up the same day. If Brickbay was around when I started looking for a site, things would have been very different. When I started my site, I knew there was a huge gap in the LEGO market for something like Brickbay, and I am glad that hole has been filled. As some of you know, I have been on it since January, and have been impressed, and have gotten some of my esteemed Futuron minifigs. : ) I do have some unresolved orders I will continue to fulfill, if you have an outstanding order, feel free to e-mail me at ssanburn@cleanweb.net, I want to wrap those up ASAP. I will be auctioning off my remaining sets and parts on E-Bay, to produce some needed cash and to finalize this. I was seriously thinking of opening a Brickbay store, but decided to just end it at this point. I might set up one in the future. All information gathered on my site will be deleted, as well as any information in my records will be destroyed as well. I will be finishing my books for this tax season. Feel free to e-mail me with conerns or questions. Finally, I just wanted to say thank you for all of your support over the last year, I have enjoyed helping fellow LEGO Maniacs continue to make great creations. It has been fun. I am looking forward to starting over, in many aspects, from our new life for my wife and I, to having time to build again, which I have not had for a few years, between college and working three / four jobs. I am looking forward to contributing to the train shows and to help MichLUG along, it is such a thrill to have fellow LEGO maniacs around. 86,87c81,82 If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to post here, or to = e-mail me at ssanburn@cleanweb.net =20 If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to post here, or to e-mail me at ssanburn@cleanweb.net 95,97c90,91 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for
lugnet.market.shopping:8456 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 39 Lines: 35 20,25c21,26 You should be able to find those closer to $50 each. (1/2 list) I got = mine for that at walmart.com last year around this time. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: William R Ward=20 To: lugnet.market.shopping@lugnet.com ; lugnet.starwars@lugnet.com ; = lugnet.space@lugnet.com=20 You should be able to find those closer to $50 each. (1/2 list) I got mine for that at walmart.com last year around this time. ----- Original Message ----- From: William R Ward To: lugnet.market.shopping@lugnet.com ; lugnet.starwars@lugnet.com ; lugnet.space@lugnet.com 42,49c43,46 --=20 William R Ward bill@wards.net = http://www.wards.net/~bill/ = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the = precipitate. -- William R Ward bill@wards.net http://www.wards.net/~bill/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
lugnet.market.shopping:8568 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 89 Lines: 75 20,21c21,22 The target I was at today had 3 or 4 4561 Railway Express sets for $90. = Is this a good price for this set? I'm mainly into technics. The target I was at today had 3 or 4 4561 Railway Express sets for $90. Is this a good price for this set? I'm mainly into technics. 23,25c24,26 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike Walsh=20 To: lugnet.market.shopping@lugnet.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Walsh To: lugnet.market.shopping@lugnet.com 41,42c42 > Score! Joel, you are an angel. Thanks for the heads up. Any = chance you > Score! Joel, you are an angel. Thanks for the heads up. Any chance you 45,46c45 > Your prices are basically right on. $10 sets are $6.90, Droid = Escape > Your prices are basically right on. $10 sets are $6.90, Droid Escape 54,55c53 > 2001 Alpha Team sets were about the only thing immune to the red = tags > 2001 Alpha Team sets were about the only thing immune to the red tags 62,63c60 I stopped by my local Target (Cary, NC) while I was out this morning = and I stopped by my local Target (Cary, NC) while I was out this morning and 65,72c62,65 Selection was a little different than above, I suspect largely due to = what they have left after the Christmas shopping season. No = Slave/Landspeeder combo packs and no A-Wing's either but I did find Exploding Banks for = $20. I haven't seen one of these in a while and assumed they had been = clearanced Selection was a little different than above, I suspect largely due to what they have left after the Christmas shopping season. No Slave/Landspeeder combo packs and no A-Wing's either but I did find Exploding Banks for $20. I haven't seen one of these in a while and assumed they had been clearanced 75,80c68,70 Prices seem to be either 25% off or 33% off. In addition to the = clearance items on the normal shelves, our Target had a clearance area right = inside the front door with tons of LEGO stuff. I don't think I have ever = seen this Prices seem to be either 25% off or 33% off. In addition to the clearance items on the normal shelves, our Target had a clearance area right inside the front door with tons of LEGO stuff. I don't think I have ever seen this 83,84c73 Now the waiting and gambling game begins - buy it now or wait for the = price Now the waiting and gambling game begins - buy it now or wait for the price 86,89c75,76 Exploding Banks which I bought today). Very little makes it to 75% = off here, so waiting for the final round of clearance usually means you = end up Exploding Banks which I bought today). Very little makes it to 75% off here, so waiting for the final round of clearance usually means you end up 99c86 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dmpw - Brick Depot http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=mpw - Brick Depot
lugnet.market.shopping:8818 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 57 Lines: 43 20,25c21,25 I found a similar thing in Wisconsin. I was at the West Allis Target = Saturday Afternoon, and they had 13 of the Railway express for $64. All = of the other Targets in the area had a few of them, but they were priced = at $99. I went back on Wed nite, they were ALL GONE! Not sure if they = ever got marked down below 50% or not. Any of you fellow cheese heads = gonna fess up? I found a similar thing in Wisconsin. I was at the West Allis Target Saturday Afternoon, and they had 13 of the Railway express for $64. All of the other Targets in the area had a few of them, but they were priced at $99. I went back on Wed nite, they were ALL GONE! Not sure if they ever got marked down below 50% or not. Any of you fellow cheese heads gonna fess up? 28,30c28,30 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Reed=20 To: lugnet.market.shopping@lugnet.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Reed To: lugnet.market.shopping@lugnet.com 36,39c36,37 >Where the heck is this store. I have 6 Targets in my commute loop and = none >of them had anything like this left even at the 50% level, especially = the >Where the heck is this store. I have 6 Targets in my commute loop and none >of them had anything like this left even at the 50% level, especially the 42,51c40,44 I'm in Texas! Home of the wide open spaces! The trick to finding = legos down here is that we have fairly large communities/towns that are = pretty much located in no-where land! The population is mostly farmers, = ranchers and such, and they don't like to spend a lot on toys. So the stores = don't move a lot of merchandise. By seeking these type of places out, I can = find I'm in Texas! Home of the wide open spaces! The trick to finding legos down here is that we have fairly large communities/towns that are pretty much located in no-where land! The population is mostly farmers, ranchers and such, and they don't like to spend a lot on toys. So the stores don't move a lot of merchandise. By seeking these type of places out, I can find 53,64c46,51 there. Also, I usually end up driving 200 miles or more seeking out = these places. This store had 14 of those railway sets at 50% less than a = week before. I thought there would be at least half of them left! I = suspect some afol may have beaten me to it. So it's not easy finding stuff = even in no-where land! Sometimes it just takes a little luck and timing. I = think I was lucky this time. Believe me that it doesn't happen that often. = You there. Also, I usually end up driving 200 miles or more seeking out these places. This store had 14 of those railway sets at 50% less than a week before. I thought there would be at least half of them left! I suspect some afol may have beaten me to it. So it's not easy finding stuff even in no-where land! Sometimes it just takes a little luck and timing. I think I was lucky this time. Believe me that it doesn't happen that often. You
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lugnet.market.shopping:9741 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 34 Lines: 29 23,26c24,25 > >>Big sale at amazon.com: 2=A2 off the Dark Side Developer Kit. The pric= e was > >>slashed from $119.99 all the way down to $119.97, so you'd better hurry= : > >>Big sale at amazon.com: 2¢ off the Dark Side Developer Kit. The price was > >>slashed from $119.99 all the way down to $119.97, so you'd better hurry: 28,29c27 > >I have noted this before, and I thought, "why does amazon bother mention= ing > >I have noted this before, and I thought, "why does amazon bother mentioning 32,33c30,31 > I think it's obviously an automated process, the item was probably repric= ed, or > I think it's obviously an automated process, the item was probably repriced, > or 35,38c33,34 > original price stored - and it automatically generates the sale notice an= d > percentage. At least, that makes sense programmatically. If you really = want > original price stored - and it automatically generates the sale notice and > percentage. At least, that makes sense programmatically. If you really want 53d48
lugnet.market.theory:1591 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 21,29c22,29 In recent times, members of our fine community on LUGNET have = saturated numerous companies offering deals on various LEGO themes, and = the companies either not honoring orders, or other such problems. A few = weeks ago, I heard of a new website named Ecomplaints.com, which does = log complaints about any businesses. The Airlines and a websaite called = crafts.com are the owrst right now, but I feel we can at least warn = people off from bad sites using this, a recent example being the Warner = brothers site. So check it out, and keep it for reference. Fortunately, = my busniess has not been complained about yet. : )=20 In recent times, members of our fine community on LUGNET have saturated numerous companies offering deals on various LEGO themes, and the companies either not honoring orders, or other such problems. A few weeks ago, I heard of a new website named Ecomplaints.com, which does log complaints about any businesses. The Airlines and a websaite called crafts.com are the owrst right now, but I feel we can at least warn people off from bad sites using this, a recent example being the Warner brothers site. So check it out, and keep it for reference. Fortunately, my busniess has not been complained about yet. : )
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lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands:178 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 91 Lines: 81 28,29c29 >Reading the <http://www.ldraw.org/about/> page, I always thought it was= just >Reading the <http://www.ldraw.org/about/> page, I always thought it was just 31,34c31,32 >was to unify LDraw things that were specifically LEGO-related (i.e., not= for >non-LEGO stuff). But maybe that's just how I always read it, always= assuming >was to unify LDraw things that were specifically LEGO-related (i.e., not for >non-LEGO stuff). But maybe that's just how I always read it, always assuming 37,38c35 I read that page and I don't recall 'Lego' being mentioned once. But your= =20 I read that page and I don't recall 'Lego' being mentioned once. But your 41,42c38 > > Not allowing non-Lego LDraw models on the site would be contradicting= that > > Not allowing non-Lego LDraw models on the site would be contradicting that 47,48c43 The 'Centralized LDraw Resources' is, but the meaning behind it is subject= =20 The 'Centralized LDraw Resources' is, but the meaning behind it is subject 61,62c56,57 Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! You've proven your point here, Todd=20 :) There is NO WAY the site will be reduced to that. LDraw was intended=20 Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! You've proven your point here, Todd :) There is NO WAY the site will be reduced to that. LDraw was intended 71,74c66,68 It shows (and I hate the word) tolerance for them, which as a purist, is=20 intolerable. Though showing acceptance for clones can be sugar coated into= =20 the promotion of the community, its abandoning the standards and the=20 It shows (and I hate the word) tolerance for them, which as a purist, is intolerable. Though showing acceptance for clones can be sugar coated into the promotion of the community, its abandoning the standards and the 83,86c77,78 >solid plastic toy, LDraw is and always has been for LEGO=AE brand= construction >toy elements (right?), and ldraw.org was set up specifically with LEGO=AE= (not >solid plastic toy, LDraw is and always has been for LEGO® brand construction >toy elements (right?), and ldraw.org was set up specifically with LEGO® (not 89,94c81,85 It was set up with specifically Lego in mind, but at the time it was set=20 up, the thought of clones being modeled in LDraw was not an issue. It was= =20 *assumed* to be the case that only Lego models would be made until people=20 started to color outside the lines. So there is no requirement to keep=20 ldraw.org 'pure,' but at the same time refusing to keep it pure would=20 It was set up with specifically Lego in mind, but at the time it was set up, the thought of clones being modeled in LDraw was not an issue. It was *assumed* to be the case that only Lego models would be made until people started to color outside the lines. So there is no requirement to keep ldraw.org 'pure,' but at the same time refusing to keep it pure would 97,98c88,89 I'm kinda goin back on what I said about hosting clone stuff before, but=20 Todd brings up some critical points here. Lets focus on the Lego brand,=20 I'm kinda goin back on what I said about hosting clone stuff before, but Todd brings up some critical points here. Lets focus on the Lego brand, 110c101 You know what you'll never see?? A fat Chinese man with flaming red hair=20 You know what you'll never see?? A fat Chinese man with flaming red hair 112d102
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lugnet.off-topic.geek:3350 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Fredrik [iso-8859-1] Gl=F6ckner wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Fredrik [iso-8859-1] Glöckner wrote: 27,30c28,30 =09=09=09=09TWS Garrison =09=09=09=09tgarriso@math.purdue.edu =09=09 =09=09http://www.math.purdue.edu/~tgarriso/ TWS Garrison tgarriso@math.purdue.edu http://www.math.purdue.edu/~tgarriso/
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lugnet.org.ca.monlug:178 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,24c20,25 Bulletin sp=E9cial---bulletin sp=E9cial---bulletin sp=E9cial---bulletin Le prochain meeting ne pourra pas =EAtre le 25 juillet (c'est un mercredi et je joue =E0 la balle tous les mercredis, d=E9sol=E9!), mais si le 24 vous convient, y a pas de probl=E8me pour moi. J'attends vos r=E9ponses....... Fin du bulletin sp=E9cial. Luc, Monlug no.? =20 Bulletin spécial---bulletin spécial---bulletin spécial---bulletin Le prochain meeting ne pourra pas être le 25 juillet (c'est un mercredi et je joue à la balle tous les mercredis, désolé!), mais si le 24 vous convient, y a pas de problème pour moi. J'attends vos réponses....... Fin du bulletin spécial. Luc, Monlug no.?
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lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto:4231 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 60 Lines: 55 27,30c28,29 >impressed. I can't fathom how someone could possibly have the = resources, >knowledge, skill, and time to make things like turret lathes, violins, = and >impressed. I can't fathom how someone could possibly have the resources, >knowledge, skill, and time to make things like turret lathes, violins, and 36c35 > You guys are true artisans.=20 > You guys are true artisans. 41c40 >throw some plastic parts together once in a while.=20 >throw some plastic parts together once in a while. 47,49c46,47 >are merits to Lego, though. You can always take it apart and build = something >else. Its incredibly versatile for prototyping.=20 >are merits to Lego, though. You can always take it apart and build something >else. Its incredibly versatile for prototyping. 54,57c52,53 >visit to a TSME meting! We could bring our best robots and give a = little >show and tell. So, what do you think guys? Do we have anything worthy = enough >visit to a TSME meting! We could bring our best robots and give a little >show and tell. So, what do you think guys? Do we have anything worthy enough
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lugnet.org.ca.viclug:5 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 26 21c22 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1781912405&rd=3D1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1781912405&rd=1 32,34c33,35 >=20 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1785168766 >=20 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1785168766 > 38,39c39,40 >=20 --=20 > -- 41,47c42,45 easy to play the clown when you've >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. =20 got to run the whole circus. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ = =20 stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.')=20 stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL = =20 easy to play the clown when you've >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. got to run the whole circus. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL
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lugnet.org.us.baylug:326 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 26 Lines: 23 21c22 We will once again be holding a LEGO=AE building contest. The theme for this We will once again be holding a LEGO® building contest. The theme for this 23c24 the design of the car. A LEGO=AE Trains related prize will be given to the the design of the car. A LEGO® Trains related prize will be given to the 25,28c26,27 entries will be judged on creativity and functionality. This contest is ope= n to club members only, but a public audience is always welcome. One entry pe= r entries will be judged on creativity and functionality. This contest is open to club members only, but a public audience is always welcome. One entry per 31,32c30 The next BayLUG meeting is Saturday, May 18. Members only from 10-1, open t= o The next BayLUG meeting is Saturday, May 18. Members only from 10-1, open to 44,47d41
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lugnet.org.us.gmlug:60 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 22,26c23,27 I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend = (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, = and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its = getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we = should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: I'm posting cause there was talk about having a Legofest next weekend (the 12th) in northeastern IL which would be to include lower WI, MI, and IN. I'm wondering if anyone has information on this beacuse its getting down to the wire. Over 10 people are interested too - so we should get something hashed out. Again, I have a page up here: 30,35c31,35 PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for = Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or = Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. = If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over = 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact = with a small handful. PLEASE get back to me with any details and post them!! I'm leaving for Boston on the 22nd and won't be back until either Thanksgiving or Christmas. I'd love to fest with Chicago area people before leaving. If you're around and lurking - DE-LURK! I've been told there are over 30 people in the Chicago area who are AFOLs, but have only had contact with a small handful. 37c37 --=20 -- 46d45
lugnet.org.us.gmlug:63 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 34 21,41c22,40 We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of = August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. = That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even = for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my = church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a = pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, = plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or = Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, = I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my = Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or = 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the = dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to = share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat = for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either = location). We have tentative use of Jameson Gagnepain's house on Sunday the 13th of August - located in St. Charles, IL, about an hour west of Chicago. That is conditional on his health and whether he gets back to work (even for an hour today) - so it looks promising. If not, we have use of my church's classrooms (which are decent - the youth room has couches, a pool table, sound system, and there are other classrooms with tables, plus out back we can set up a grill) on either Saturday the 12th or Sunday the 13th. So, in essence, we DO HAVE A FACILITY FOR THIS EVENT. I will post when I know for sure whether Jameson's place is available, I'll find out this afternoon. Times - if its at Jameson's - 12pm-evening, Sunday the 13th. If at my Church, all day Saturday is fine, and Sunday starting around 1 or 1:30-evening. If you are planning on coming, please email me and tell me the dates/times you are available. I'd ask that you try to bring a dish to share, chips, veggie tray, pop, etc...and have it a bring your own meat for a barbecue I suppose. Please refrain from bringing alchohol (either location). 43,44c42,43 When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with = directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. When you email me and when I have more information, I will reply with directions and a phone number you can call for arrangements, etc. 46c45 --=20 -- 55d53
lugnet.org.us.lucny:796 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 60 Lines: 57 22,23c23,24 March 30 (Sun). LUCNY meeting and practice Train layout. Parkside = Methodist Church, Vernon Center. Host -- Kevin March 30 (Sun). LUCNY meeting and practice Train layout. Parkside Methodist Church, Vernon Center. Host -- Kevin 25,28c26,33 April 19 (Sat) LUCNY meeting and train show planning. Hurlburt House, = Cornell Univ, Ithaca, NY. Host -- Dave Amos unconfirmed meeting date. Friday, April 18 is Good Friday -- we could = meet on that date if more convenient. April 19 (Sat) LUCNY meeting and train show planning. Hurlburt House, Cornell Univ, Ithaca, NY. Host -- Dave Amos unconfirmed meeting date. Friday, April 18 is Good Friday -- we could meet on that date if more convenient. April 26 and 27 Finger Lakes RailFair. Lansing (Ithaca). Cornell Railroad Historical Society not yet registered for this event!! http://www.nrhs.com/chapters/cornell.htm 30,36c35,36 April 26 and 27 Finger Lakes RailFair. Lansing (Ithaca). Cornell = Railroad Historical Society not yet registered for this event!! = http://www.nrhs.com/chapters/cornell.htm June 20 - 22 AND June 27 - 29 A Day out With Thomas the Tank Engine, = Utica Central Station, Utica June 20 - 22 AND June 27 - 29 A Day out With Thomas the Tank Engine, Utica Central Station, Utica 40,42c40,42 November 1 and 2 Train Fair. State Fairgrounds, Syracuse. CNY = National Railroad Historical Society not yet registered for this event!! = November 1 and 2 Train Fair. State Fairgrounds, Syracuse. CNY National Railroad Historical Society not yet registered for this event!! 46,55c46,53 Currently, I am trying to plan for ALL of these events. I need input = from everyone as far as attendance and participation. We need to get = moving on Plexiglas barriers, too, in order to do these events. We can = have a pretty active calendar if we get the necessary support to do all = of these events! I would like to keep all communications on the Yahoo message board. We = can organize an online AIM chat if that seems like a good idea. =20 Lack of communications will mean that some events may not stay on the = calendar! Currently, I am trying to plan for ALL of these events. I need input from everyone as far as attendance and participation. We need to get moving on Plexiglas barriers, too, in order to do these events. We can have a pretty active calendar if we get the necessary support to do all of these events! I would like to keep all communications on the Yahoo message board. We can organize an online AIM chat if that seems like a good idea. Lack of communications will mean that some events may not stay on the calendar! 64,65c62,63 Please pass on information about new/prospective members. Some of these = upcoming events will require more manpower than we currently have. =20 Please pass on information about new/prospective members. Some of these upcoming events will require more manpower than we currently have.
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I just don't have enough ideas to create all new buildings every time and some of my finished work is pretty good and can be used at more than one show, I think. Dave Amos brought has city block with several buildings including a very excellent school built with Sand Red bricks. Our layout needed a school and Dave's fits in nicely. 31,82c31,76 I have not yet attempted to re-create your dam tunnel but I think the = layout really needs this--at least I liked it a lot at Syracuse GATS and = I don't plan to attempt anything more elaborate right away. We should = have plenty of table space at the Ithaca show next month to display some = of your work, Nate. It was decided NOT to have single tables anywhere = on the layout so this will help to accommodate buildings that have = extensive parking areas, etc such as your post office. I would really = like to have your rental storage facility and your UHaul building and = trucks for next month's show--they will fit in nicely near our trailer = park/ water tower/ cemetery area I think. Nate -- Anything you have at your parent's home that I can pick up for = the show I would be happy to have on the layout. Just give me = permission to go into your Lego room to borrow stuff--your family can = supervise. So far, your SuperChief train is the only one in LUCNY--if = that is at your parents home I can pick that up, too. Same for straight = rails and switching rails. Even YODA sculpture would be welcome as that = makes a nice conversation piece for visitors on the static display = table. It is my hope that we can have a portion of the layout for old west and = turn of the century buildings. John Rudy has come up with several nice = buildings and debuted an elevated trolley line. Ed thinks he will be = able to work out the electronics for a dedicated trolley line that might = also serve well for his BrickWorx cars and perhaps the Hogwarts Express. = Any contributions by anyone for old west and Harry Potter scenes would = be welcome in this area. John Rudy and I built a water tank for steam = engines and a few other little things, but I don't think I will attempt = anything else for this part of town at this time. I have some work to do yet in developing LUCNYville's industrial center, = but the bulk of it will be a grain elevator with several storage silos. = I also have preliminary ideas for a container yard but have not yet = decided on any structures for this. My plans for a train shed will be = scrapped for now. Our business meeting took 45 minutes or so, but a lot was discussed and = details ironed out for the upcoming show. For raffles, it was decided = to offer up a New 4534 Railway Express. All visitors have to do is = provide their name and address. This raffle was chosen over other ideas = due to simplicity for us. I guess this means I have a bunch of small = red buckets (three) and tall red buckets (six) that I can offer to = re-sell to other LUCNY members. Nate has first pick since I offered to = get him some a few weeks back unless he has gotten his fill of them from = Wal-Marts in Virginia. We seem to be in good shape for Next month's show in Ithaca regarding = Lego. The Plexiglas barriers are still in development and I have handed = off responsibility for that to Peter, Ed, and John Barnes. Whatever = they design I will be happy to accommodate. If things go as planned, we = will have the finished barriers for the meeting on April 19 -- one week = prior to the show on April 26 and 27. I have not yet attempted to re-create your dam tunnel but I think the layout really needs this--at least I liked it a lot at Syracuse GATS and I don't plan to attempt anything more elaborate right away. We should have plenty of table space at the Ithaca show next month to display some of your work, Nate. It was decided NOT to have single tables anywhere on the layout so this will help to accommodate buildings that have extensive parking areas, etc such as your post office. I would really like to have your rental storage facility and your UHaul building and trucks for next month's show--they will fit in nicely near our trailer park/ water tower/ cemetery area I think. Nate -- Anything you have at your parent's home that I can pick up for the show I would be happy to have on the layout. Just give me permission to go into your Lego room to borrow stuff--your family can supervise. So far, your SuperChief train is the only one in LUCNY--if that is at your parents home I can pick that up, too. Same for straight rails and switching rails. Even YODA sculpture would be welcome as that makes a nice conversation piece for visitors on the static display table. It is my hope that we can have a portion of the layout for old west and turn of the century buildings. John Rudy has come up with several nice buildings and debuted an elevated trolley line. Ed thinks he will be able to work out the electronics for a dedicated trolley line that might also serve well for his BrickWorx cars and perhaps the Hogwarts Express. Any contributions by anyone for old west and Harry Potter scenes would be welcome in this area. John Rudy and I built a water tank for steam engines and a few other little things, but I don't think I will attempt anything else for this part of town at this time. I have some work to do yet in developing LUCNYville's industrial center, but the bulk of it will be a grain elevator with several storage silos. I also have preliminary ideas for a container yard but have not yet decided on any structures for this. My plans for a train shed will be scrapped for now. Our business meeting took 45 minutes or so, but a lot was discussed and details ironed out for the upcoming show. For raffles, it was decided to offer up a New 4534 Railway Express. All visitors have to do is provide their name and address. This raffle was chosen over other ideas due to simplicity for us. I guess this means I have a bunch of small red buckets (three) and tall red buckets (six) that I can offer to re-sell to other LUCNY members. Nate has first pick since I offered to get him some a few weeks back unless he has gotten his fill of them from Wal-Marts in Virginia. We seem to be in good shape for Next month's show in Ithaca regarding Lego. The Plexiglas barriers are still in development and I have handed off responsibility for that to Peter, Ed, and John Barnes. Whatever they design I will be happy to accommodate. If things go as planned, we will have the finished barriers for the meeting on April 19 -- one week prior to the show on April 26 and 27. 84c78 =A7 =A7 =A7 § § § 86c80 June 20-22 & June 27-29 A Day out With Thomas the Tank Engine,Utica=20 June 20-22 & June 27-29 A Day out With Thomas the Tank Engine,Utica 88,99c82,92 At this time, the Utica show--A Day Out with Thomas the Tank Engine is = on hold for us. I have NOT registered for this event. So far, only = Kevin, Nate, and John Barnes can participate and I don't think that will = be enough manpower for a six-day event with huge crowds expected = (thousands of people). The event organizers would like to have a Lego = layout; they have even asked for a Lego play area. Even if we can get a = K-8 or two from Lego or from another Lug/LTC, we do not have the means = to make the tables with part bins (rain gutters?) nor to supervise it. = My opinion on this event is that we should pass it up for now. Unless = things change and we get some new active members, we should not commit = to this. I will notify the event organizers of our situation and keep = you all informed. At this time, the Utica show--A Day Out with Thomas the Tank Engine is on hold for us. I have NOT registered for this event. So far, only Kevin, Nate, and John Barnes can participate and I don't think that will be enough manpower for a six-day event with huge crowds expected (thousands of people). The event organizers would like to have a Lego layout; they have even asked for a Lego play area. Even if we can get a K-8 or two from Lego or from another Lug/LTC, we do not have the means to make the tables with part bins (rain gutters?) nor to supervise it. My opinion on this event is that we should pass it up for now. Unless things change and we get some new active members, we should not commit to this. I will notify the event organizers of our situation and keep you all informed. 101c94 November 1 & 2 Train Fair. State Fairgrounds, Syracuse. CNY National=20 November 1 & 2 Train Fair. State Fairgrounds, Syracuse. CNY National 103,107c96,99 No contact has yet been attempted to participate in this show. I think = we should wait until August or September before making any plans for = this show. If someone other than me would like to act as Show Coordinator for this = event that would be fine with me. No contact has yet been attempted to participate in this show. I think we should wait until August or September before making any plans for this show. If someone other than me would like to act as Show Coordinator for this event that would be fine with me. 116,118c108,110 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nate Jacobs=20 To: LUCNY@yahoogroups.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Nate Jacobs To: LUCNY@yahoogroups.com 123c115 Greetings from the duct tape and plastic sheeting Capital of the=20 Greetings from the duct tape and plastic sheeting Capital of the 126,128c118,120 Thought I would post this tonight on the off chance somebody might=20 read the group before the meeting tomorrow. Wish I could be there=20 but alas 7hrs is a pretty long way to travel, even for LEGO! =20 Thought I would post this tonight on the off chance somebody might read the group before the meeting tomorrow. Wish I could be there but alas 7hrs is a pretty long way to travel, even for LEGO! 132c124 June 20-22 & June 27-29 A Day out With Thomas the Tank Engine,Utica=20 June 20-22 & June 27-29 A Day out With Thomas the Tank Engine,Utica 135c127 November 1 & 2 Train Fair. State Fairgrounds, Syracuse. CNY National=20 November 1 & 2 Train Fair. State Fairgrounds, Syracuse. CNY National 138,140c130,132 I will be able to lend all my track, baseplates, and anything else I=20 might create between now and then (I promise I will bring finished=20 things next time:-) ). =20 I will be able to lend all my track, baseplates, and anything else I might create between now and then (I promise I will bring finished things next time:-) ). 142c134 See you all later. =20 See you all later.
lugnet.org.us.lucny:803 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 LUCNY will be participating in the Finger Lakes RailFair this weekend = with a layout of approximately 16 by 20 feet in size. LUCNY will be participating in the Finger Lakes RailFair this weekend with a layout of approximately 16 by 20 feet in size. 22,23c23,24 Here are the final details regarding the Finger Lakes RailFair on April = 26 and 27. Here are the final details regarding the Finger Lakes RailFair on April 26 and 27. 26c27 SET UP=20 SET UP 42,45c43,46 I will be staying with a cousin who lives 2 miles from the exhibit hall. = You can leave messages with my cousin at 607.533.4175. =20 I will be showing up for set-up on Friday as early as 4 PM and will be = on-site the entire time. Email contact is unlikely. I will be staying with a cousin who lives 2 miles from the exhibit hall. You can leave messages with my cousin at 607.533.4175. I will be showing up for set-up on Friday as early as 4 PM and will be on-site the entire time. Email contact is unlikely.
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lugnet.org.us.lugola:772 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 I'm having a total blast here at BricksWest meeting people and=20 I'm having a total blast here at BricksWest meeting people and 25c26 After BricksWest I'm actually going to be hanging around in SoCal for a=20 After BricksWest I'm actually going to be hanging around in SoCal for a 28c29 While I'm here, I'd like to meet with as many people as I can, in=20 While I'm here, I'd like to meet with as many people as I can, in 31c32 http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=3D1961 (announcement) http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=1961 (announcement) 34c35 If you do a lot of building, and this sounds interesting to you, let's=20 If you do a lot of building, and this sounds interesting to you, let's 37,42c38,43 Henry Lim has graciously offered to put me up at his place in the event=20 that if I don't find other places to stay, and/or shuttle me around if=20 needed (wow!), but I'd hate for him to have to put up with me for=20 several more days. :-) (I took 700 photos last week Thursday and=20 Friday of his gigantic stagasaurus and his incredible harpsichord,=20 including about 50 inside the belly (which is how I got this cool gnash=20 Henry Lim has graciously offered to put me up at his place in the event that if I don't find other places to stay, and/or shuttle me around if needed (wow!), but I'd hate for him to have to put up with me for several more days. :-) (I took 700 photos last week Thursday and Friday of his gigantic stagasaurus and his incredible harpsichord, including about 50 inside the belly (which is how I got this cool gnash 45,47c46,48 Anyway, holy cow, there are so many great creations here in SoCal! From=20 Daniel Jassim's space ships, to Bryce McGlone's and Dave Johann's mecha,=20 to Brad Hamilton's underwater cities, all of the SCLTC stuff, and so=20 Anyway, holy cow, there are so many great creations here in SoCal! From Daniel Jassim's space ships, to Bryce McGlone's and Dave Johann's mecha, to Brad Hamilton's underwater cities, all of the SCLTC stuff, and so 50c51 I think I'm catching a ride back up to the LA area tomorrow with Scott=20 I think I'm catching a ride back up to the LA area tomorrow with Scott 53c54 So hey! Drop me a line a this e-mail address <tsl@tsl.bu.edu> if you're=20 So hey! Drop me a line a this e-mail address <tsl@tsl.bu.edu> if you're 58,59c59,60 p.s. I had the opportunity to chat briefly with Brad Justus at=20 BricksWest this morning. He likes the idea of the book and offered=20 p.s. I had the opportunity to chat briefly with Brad Justus at BricksWest this morning. He likes the idea of the book and offered 61d61
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lugnet.org.us.lugola:811 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 28c29 --=20 -- 30,34c31,34 somebody. Perhaps I should >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. =20 have been more specific. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ =20 stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.')=20 stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL =20 somebody. Perhaps I should >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. have been more specific. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL
lugnet.org.us.michlug:285 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 26 Lines: 25 21,24c22,25 Kai mentioned a fest at his house, and there were rumors of a Space = one as well. Are there any updates of dates, etc? We will probably need = to plan one for the GATS show in the summer too. What people will build = for it, ideas, etc. Definately need some ropes or something.=20 Kai mentioned a fest at his house, and there were rumors of a Space one as well. Are there any updates of dates, etc? We will probably need to plan one for the GATS show in the summer too. What people will build for it, ideas, etc. Definately need some ropes or something. 29,31c30,31 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for
lugnet.org.us.michlug:307 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 45 Lines: 42 21,31c22,31 Well, since this is the weekend I had some big annoucements, I = thought I would post this here as well, since I consider LUGNET a part = of my family. : ) Anyway, after a lot of consideration, thought, prayer, = strife, and the like, my wife has decided to accept a position as = pharmacist at Osco Drugs, which is located in South Bend, Indiana. We = will be moving there sometime between now and June, it really depends on = me getting another job. We will be selling the condo here, and basically = starting our married life, since for right now, we have not really had = time for. It is a big move, but one I feel we need, to get away from = here troll-like brother-in-law and away from some other things that have = affected us being here.=20 Well, since this is the weekend I had some big annoucements, I thought I would post this here as well, since I consider LUGNET a part of my family. : ) Anyway, after a lot of consideration, thought, prayer, strife, and the like, my wife has decided to accept a position as pharmacist at Osco Drugs, which is located in South Bend, Indiana. We will be moving there sometime between now and June, it really depends on me getting another job. We will be selling the condo here, and basically starting our married life, since for right now, we have not really had time for. It is a big move, but one I feel we need, to get away from here troll-like brother-in-law and away from some other things that have affected us being here. 33,35c33,35 Anyway, in like of that, and since I did not see a lot of posts in = Indiana regardless, I would like to be part of this group anyway. What = does everyone think about this?=20 Anyway, in like of that, and since I did not see a lot of posts in Indiana regardless, I would like to be part of this group anyway. What does everyone think about this? 37,43c37,42 It is a big change for me, even more than the closing of my old job at = AEI, and I think it will improve a lot of things in my life, since she = only wants me to work at 1 job and the like, and I might have time to = build something finally. I am looking forward to it. Any comments or = questions can be directed here, or privately at ssanburn@cleanweb.net. = it has been a blast, and hope it will continue to do so. I will be part = of GATS though later this year, God willing! It is a big change for me, even more than the closing of my old job at AEI, and I think it will improve a lot of things in my life, since she only wants me to work at 1 job and the like, and I might have time to build something finally. I am looking forward to it. Any comments or questions can be directed here, or privately at ssanburn@cleanweb.net. it has been a blast, and hope it will continue to do so. I will be part of GATS though later this year, God willing! 48,50c47,48 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for
lugnet.org.us.michlug:345 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 78 Lines: 74 21,24c22,24 Well, we had a lot of fun at our meeting today. We all want to thank = Kai's parents for letting us use their beautiful home and putting up = with LEGO Maniacs for 6 hours! : ) I uploaded some pictures to = Brickshelf, here is the link: Well, we had a lot of fun at our meeting today. We all want to thank Kai's parents for letting us use their beautiful home and putting up with LEGO Maniacs for 6 hours! : ) I uploaded some pictures to Brickshelf, here is the link: 26,27c26,27 Well, I cannot seem to upload pictures right now, I might have to wait = until Monday. : ( I am getting tired of my web service, Cleanweb. ) Well, I cannot seem to upload pictures right now, I might have to wait until Monday. : ( I am getting tired of my web service, Cleanweb. ) 31,46c31,46 1) We had some new people come this time: Spencer & Steve. Nice to see = you there. Spencer's Space Shuttle was just jaw dropping. Steve, your = car and trains were awesome as well. I loved that bridge, nice job! Your = rubber band gun was nifty! 2) Kai's house was beautiful, and had plenty of room. We did not have a = room problem or anything.=20 3) Amy Hughes showed us some progress pictures of her church with her = new camera, on the TV. Absolutely stunning, Amy. It is supposed to hold = 1,200 minifigs!!! I volunteered some of my space guys. The Blacktron = always love doing security duty, Amy! ; ) 4) Spencers Space Shuttle was huge, full of detail, and probably the = best rendition I ever saw. The carrier was also top notch. Looking = forward to seeing more of your work.=20 1) We had some new people come this time: Spencer & Steve. Nice to see you there. Spencer's Space Shuttle was just jaw dropping. Steve, your car and trains were awesome as well. I loved that bridge, nice job! Your rubber band gun was nifty! 2) Kai's house was beautiful, and had plenty of room. We did not have a room problem or anything. 3) Amy Hughes showed us some progress pictures of her church with her new camera, on the TV. Absolutely stunning, Amy. It is supposed to hold 1,200 minifigs!!! I volunteered some of my space guys. The Blacktron always love doing security duty, Amy! ; ) 4) Spencers Space Shuttle was huge, full of detail, and probably the best rendition I ever saw. The carrier was also top notch. Looking forward to seeing more of your work. 50,73c50,71 5) Trevor Prudens starship was huge, formidable, and full of awesome = details. His other smaller ships were awesome as well, and the Spiff = mobile was cool. Watch out for that veggie spam! Superb job as always, = Trevor. We need to talk about some space stuff too.=20 5) Chris Leach and family did show up eventually, nice to see you, = Chris!=20 6) We had some discussion on what kind of organization we wanted for = MichLUG, and the direction we would take. We did register = http://www.michlug.org for now, but we need to work on it some more. Amy = Hughes will have more details when they are available. Amy, feel free to = e-mail me if you need access to the site, or whatever. I think the main = direction is to the train shows, a few a year, so we can prepare = adequtely for them. We need to start thinking about the one in July, it = is coming around soon! =20 7) I discussed some plans for my site, and my current situation = involving moving to South Bend, Indiana. That minifest should be in = three weeks, I think. Please e-mail me with specific requests, folks.=20 Overall, it was a blast, it was nice to see everyone again, I think the = next meeting should be fun, and we can start discussing what we want to = do for the train show. Thanks to everyone! i had a blast! 5) Trevor Prudens starship was huge, formidable, and full of awesome details. His other smaller ships were awesome as well, and the Spiff mobile was cool. Watch out for that veggie spam! Superb job as always, Trevor. We need to talk about some space stuff too. 5) Chris Leach and family did show up eventually, nice to see you, Chris! 6) We had some discussion on what kind of organization we wanted for MichLUG, and the direction we would take. We did register http://www.michlug.org for now, but we need to work on it some more. Amy Hughes will have more details when they are available. Amy, feel free to e-mail me if you need access to the site, or whatever. I think the main direction is to the train shows, a few a year, so we can prepare adequtely for them. We need to start thinking about the one in July, it is coming around soon! 7) I discussed some plans for my site, and my current situation involving moving to South Bend, Indiana. That minifest should be in three weeks, I think. Please e-mail me with specific requests, folks. Overall, it was a blast, it was nice to see everyone again, I think the next meeting should be fun, and we can start discussing what we want to do for the train show. Thanks to everyone! i had a blast! 78,80c76,77 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for
lugnet.org.us.michlug:384 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 40 Lines: 38 21,31c22,32 All right, since I just found out today I need to help my wife with = a wedding (She is playing the piano, and I get to flip the pages) I need = to have the sale next weekend on Saturday, March 24th. I am offering = parts between 0.01 - 0.10, so it is a good deal. I think minifigs will = go for 0.50 each instead of the usual as well.=20 Anyway, please let mw know if you are going to attend, and if you cannot = make it, I wll try to accomodate what you want. I think a good time will = be around 1:00PM till whenever, I am sure I can accommodate different = people if you need another date or time. I am going to start doing some = auctions this week, and continue after this sale. All right, since I just found out today I need to help my wife with a wedding (She is playing the piano, and I get to flip the pages) I need to have the sale next weekend on Saturday, March 24th. I am offering parts between 0.01 - 0.10, so it is a good deal. I think minifigs will go for 0.50 each instead of the usual as well. Anyway, please let mw know if you are going to attend, and if you cannot make it, I wll try to accomodate what you want. I think a good time will be around 1:00PM till whenever, I am sure I can accommodate different people if you need another date or time. I am going to start doing some auctions this week, and continue after this sale. 33,34c34 Any questions or concerns, feel free to e-mail me at = ssanburn@cleanweb.net Any questions or concerns, feel free to e-mail me at ssanburn@cleanweb.net 41,43c41,42 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for 49c48 =20
lugnet.org.us.michlug:411 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 61 Lines: 58 24c25 My place -=20 My place - 29c30 If you need further instructions, e-mail me.=20 If you need further instructions, e-mail me. 32,34c33,35 Folks, this is basically a going out of business sale (The Sanburn = Systems Company) , especially for MichLUG members. I will take what is = left and sell it on E-Bay. Folks, this is basically a going out of business sale (The Sanburn Systems Company) , especially for MichLUG members. I will take what is left and sell it on E-Bay. 37,38c38,39 1:00PM ~ 8:00PM? (Whenever you want to come is fine, I would like to = wrap it up by 8:00 or so) 1:00PM ~ 8:00PM? (Whenever you want to come is fine, I would like to wrap it up by 8:00 or so) 44,45c45 If you want to bring something to show, feel free, not too much space = though.=20 If you want to bring something to show, feel free, not too much space though. 48,51c48,51 I am going to have areas with specific parts or sets. An Area for BASIC = Bricks and Plates, etc. I will have a section for all the sets I do have = as well. I will have a section of opened sets that aren't sorted, I have = not had tme for yet. It is like a buffet.. of LEGO stuff.=20 I am going to have areas with specific parts or sets. An Area for BASIC Bricks and Plates, etc. I will have a section for all the sets I do have as well. I will have a section of opened sets that aren't sorted, I have not had tme for yet. It is like a buffet.. of LEGO stuff. 54,55c54,55 If you want to, I might be able to have you over sometime, feel free to = e-mail me with day, time, etc. at ssanburn@cleanweb.net If you want to, I might be able to have you over sometime, feel free to e-mail me with day, time, etc. at ssanburn@cleanweb.net 57,59c57,58 Anothere good way if you can't come is to send me your want lists. I = will try to accomodate you. Most parts are from SW stuff, so keep that = in mind.=20 Anothere good way if you can't come is to send me your want lists. I will try to accomodate you. Most parts are from SW stuff, so keep that in mind. 61c60 Any other questions or comments, feel free to post them here.=20 Any other questions or comments, feel free to post them here. 66,67c65 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html
lugnet.org.us.michlug:415 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 40 Lines: 38 21,40c22,40 All right, I am getting stuff ready right now, I will have areas of = items (I.E. Basic Bricks, BASIC Plates, minifig stuff,e tc.) the MISB = sets, and a explore section (Stuff I had not started to sort for yet, it = is like treasure hunting! : ) ) I will provide some pop and snacks for weary travelers. I hope everyone = can find it all right, please let me know if you need more directions, = at ssanburn@cleanweb.net=20 prices will be in the range of 0.01 to 0.05 per part, minifigs at 0.50 a = pop, and the sets are what I paid for them, which is anywhere from 20 to = 50% off normal prices. Any stuff left over I will make alist and post. = The people who can;t make it, I will provide a list of parts and a link, = but probably not until Sunday. Anyway, I hope I can help some of our MichLUG members out, and get some = money out of this, so I can finsih with a bang. I am going to Elkhart, = Indiana for a final round of paperwork for a new job, I htink the = tentative date fo going dowen there is April 15th, so I will need to = start packing.=20 All right, I am getting stuff ready right now, I will have areas of items (I.E. Basic Bricks, BASIC Plates, minifig stuff,e tc.) the MISB sets, and a explore section (Stuff I had not started to sort for yet, it is like treasure hunting! : ) ) I will provide some pop and snacks for weary travelers. I hope everyone can find it all right, please let me know if you need more directions, at ssanburn@cleanweb.net prices will be in the range of 0.01 to 0.05 per part, minifigs at 0.50 a pop, and the sets are what I paid for them, which is anywhere from 20 to 50% off normal prices. Any stuff left over I will make alist and post. The people who can;t make it, I will provide a list of parts and a link, but probably not until Sunday. Anyway, I hope I can help some of our MichLUG members out, and get some money out of this, so I can finsih with a bang. I am going to Elkhart, Indiana for a final round of paperwork for a new job, I htink the tentative date fo going dowen there is April 15th, so I will need to start packing. 47,48c47 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html
lugnet.org.us.michlug:2621 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 46 Lines: 45 19,21c20,22 I noticed at the GATS site a form for a coupon on the entrance fee I = believe, you may want to tell anyone that you are mentioning this to, = about the site soe they might save a buck or something. I noticed at the GATS site a form for a coupon on the entrance fee I believe, you may want to tell anyone that you are mentioning this to, about the site soe they might save a buck or something. 26,27c27 It looks like we are almost ready to have a great show this weekend. If = you It looks like we are almost ready to have a great show this weekend. If you 50c50 http://www.gats.com/show_schedule.php?sort=3Ddate=20 http://www.gats.com/show_schedule.php?sort=date 56c56 http://www.gats.com/pdf/DET01-02.pdf=20 http://www.gats.com/pdf/DET01-02.pdf 59c59 ssanburn@skyenet.net=20 ssanburn@skyenet.net 65d64
lugnet.org.us.michlug:2808 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 30 Lines: 28 21,24c22,24 Very, very nice MOC. I spotted this on brickshelf and admired it, not = noticing that it was yours. Therefore I am certain that the opinion was = not biased towards a club member when I formed the opinion. Keep 'em = coming! Very, very nice MOC. I spotted this on brickshelf and admired it, not noticing that it was yours. Therefore I am certain that the opinion was not biased towards a club member when I formed the opinion. Keep 'em coming! 30,31c30 After seeing how neat of a cockpit the Duplo Egg was, I aquired one for = myself, After seeing how neat of a cockpit the Duplo Egg was, I aquired one for myself, 34c33 http://www.ozbricks.com/brickcentral/space.html=20 http://www.ozbricks.com/brickcentral/space.html 45,47c44,46 MichLUG - http://www.michlug.org/=20 Lego Page - http://www.ozbricks.com/brickcentral/=20 Bricklink Store - http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=3Djrspears=20 MichLUG - http://www.michlug.org/ Lego Page - http://www.ozbricks.com/brickcentral/ Bricklink Store - http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=jrspears 49d47
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lugnet.org.us.nelug:1385 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 31 Lines: 28 20,21c21 >> Anyways, is there ant intrest in a meeting sometime next week? =A0I = >> Anyways, is there ant intrest in a meeting sometime next week? I 27,28c27 >Especially since I didn't realize Jorge's house was so far. =A0Being a= >Especially since I didn't realize Jorge's house was so far. Being a 32c31 >So is anybody else interested in meeting like Tom suggested? =A0How >So is anybody else interested in meeting like Tom suggested? How 45,46c44 Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion= .com) Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion.com) 48,50c46,47 Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://= www.zzn.com. Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com.
lugnet.org.us.nelug:1426 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 47 Lines: 45 19,21c20,21 Nice job on the car. =A0I really liked the attention to detail. =A0ie th= e fish and air tank under neither. =A0One Suggestion though, could you Nice job on the car. I really liked the attention to detail. ie the fish and air tank under neither. One Suggestion though, could you 41c41 for the past couple of weeks. =A0You can read the posts on them at: for the past couple of weeks. You can read the posts on them at: 43,44c43,44 http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=3D10457 http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=3D10456 http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=10457 http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=10456 48,49c48,49 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D3881 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D3880 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3881 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3880 61,62c61 Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion= .com) Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion.com) 64,66c63,64 Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://= www.zzn.com. Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com.
lugnet.org.us.nelug:1428 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 19,20c20,21 Sadly, I don't have a dolphin. =A0Or a manta ray, which I would have liked. =A0My sealife is limited to seaweed, a shark, and two clams Sadly, I don't have a dolphin. Or a manta ray, which I would have liked. My sealife is limited to seaweed, a shark, and two clams 33,34c34 Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion= .com) Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion.com) 36,38c36,37 Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://= www.zzn.com. Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com.
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lugnet.org.us.nelug:2121 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 37 33c34 General consensus seems that a meeting on the 17th sounds okay? =A0So General consensus seems that a meeting on the 17th sounds okay? So 36c37 works. =A0How works. How 39c40 Next order of business: Bison County or Franca's? =A0Wow, so this is Next order of business: Bison County or Franca's? Wow, so this is 52,53c53 Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion= .com) Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion.com) 55,57c55,56 Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://= www.zzn.com. Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com.
lugnet.org.us.nelug:2244 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 88 Lines: 87 27c28 www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D13089 www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=13089 44c45 August. =A0Is there a Lego company August. Is there a Lego company 102,103c103 Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion= .com) Get your Free E-mail at http://legos.zzn.com ! (http://fusion.refraxion.com) 105,107c105,106 Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://= www.zzn.com. Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com.
lugnet.people:1044 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 21,27c22,27 As most of you know, i started at Black & Veatch last Tuesda. It is = the biggest office I have ever worked at, over 300 people, definately a = Dilbert cubeland type, but it is a decent job. Anyway, I thought it's = statement for the company is rather amusing, especially since I love the = brick: "Black & Veatch - the Imagination Build Company - If you can = imagine it, we can build it!" I think LC missed a great logo for = themselves, but what a company to work for! : ) As most of you know, i started at Black & Veatch last Tuesda. It is the biggest office I have ever worked at, over 300 people, definately a Dilbert cubeland type, but it is a decent job. Anyway, I thought it's statement for the company is rather amusing, especially since I love the brick: "Black & Veatch - the Imagination Build Company - If you can imagine it, we can build it!" I think LC missed a great logo for themselves, but what a company to work for! : ) 34c34 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner=20 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner
lugnet.people:3266 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 27 20,21c21 > Klaas Meijaard - thanks for the wonderful price on the Deutche Telekom = sets, > Klaas Meijaard - thanks for the wonderful price on the Deutche Telekom sets, 27c27 > LEGOWORLD WAS SUCH AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE!!=20 > LEGOWORLD WAS SUCH AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE!! 34c34 BTW: in your report you mention everything and everybody during=20 BTW: in your report you mention everything and everybody during 36c36 Not a word about all this knowledge you acquired regarding Dutch beers,=20 Not a word about all this knowledge you acquired regarding Dutch beers, 39,43c39,40 This upcoming drinking-problem of yours: allready under control yet? := -) Ok=E9, just kidding: we all had a great time, certainly next year again! And I (we all) expect a Jumbo-plane full with USA-AFOL's + their Lego to = This upcoming drinking-problem of yours: allready under control yet? :-) Oké, just kidding: we all had a great time, certainly next year again! 44a42 And I (we all) expect a Jumbo-plane full with USA-AFOL's + their Lego to 49d46
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lugnet.pirates:1930 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 29,30c30,31 >=20 >=20 > > 32c33 > >=20 > > 35,36c36,37 > >=20 > > >Lego has completely dropped the Technic line, its not on=20 > > > > >Lego has completely dropped the Technic line, its not on 39,40c40,41 > >=20 > > Why aren't we going crazy? I think someone already has!=20 > > > > Why aren't we going crazy? I think someone already has! 42c43 > > the Technic line and it IS on the website, if you know=20 > > the Technic line and it IS on the website, if you know 44c45 >=20 > 46c47 > concept and are too young to know what Technic was/is=20 > concept and are too young to know what Technic was/is 48,49c49,50 >=20 > take no offense... though what they have listed under technic=20 > > take no offense... though what they have listed under technic 52c53 >=20 > 54,55c55 >=20 >
lugnet.pirates:1940 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 31,33c32,34 >=20 >=20 > If TLC is reissuing old sets those selling old sets not be=20 > > > If TLC is reissuing old sets those selling old sets not be 36c37 > rereleases it in 2001[1]) I will be happy cause hopefully I=20 > rereleases it in 2001[1]) I will be happy cause hopefully I 38c39 > sets again. but a little disapointed cause now anyone can=20 > sets again. but a little disapointed cause now anyone can 40c41 > of black falcons[1] it might wreck havoc on ebay and brick=20 > of black falcons[1] it might wreck havoc on ebay and brick 43c44 >=20 > 45c46 >=20 > 47,48c48,49 >=20 > [1]speculation I don't want anyone to think I have inside=20 > > [1]speculation I don't want anyone to think I have inside 51c52 >=20 > 54,55c55,56 > >>In lugnet.pirates, Ralph D=F6ring writes: > >>>>If this IS the july suprise, we may be pleased sooner=20 > >>In lugnet.pirates, Ralph Döring writes: > >>>>If this IS the july suprise, we may be pleased sooner 60c61 > >>>- My guess is, that they had a lot of these sets left.=20 > >>>- My guess is, that they had a lot of these sets left. 62c63 > >>>of them are sets coming back from the shops and my have=20 > >>>of them are sets coming back from the shops and my have 65c66 > >>>- I=B4d bet that TLG is not re-releasing old sets. They are=20 > >>>- I´d bet that TLG is not re-releasing old sets. They are 67c68 > >>>stock. So hope for the best but don=B4t expect too much. > >>>stock. So hope for the best but don´t expect too much. 69c70 > >>I sincerely doubt this is old stock. They are re-releasing=20 > >>I sincerely doubt this is old stock. They are re-releasing 75c76 > >I can only assume that all information circulating is true=20 > >I can only assume that all information circulating is true 77c78 > >heard from one of the LEGO representatives that seem to read=20 > >heard from one of the LEGO representatives that seem to read 79c80 > >frequently here on LUGNET. Sillence seems to suggest that=20 > >frequently here on LUGNET. Sillence seems to suggest that 81c82 > >Jimmy Park are essentially summing things up for them and=20 > >Jimmy Park are essentially summing things up for them and 83c84 > >gag order regarding this particular issue. If we could have=20 > >gag order regarding this particular issue. If we could have 85c86 > >note from Brad Justus as to whether any of this is truth or=20 > >note from Brad Justus as to whether any of this is truth or 89,90c90 >=20 >
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lugnet.pirates:2425 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 85 Lines: 63 22,25c23,24 After processing some orders and answering several 'better-info' inquirie= s I think I should make my 'stunt-offer' more clear to you all. = After processing some orders and answering several 'better-info' inquiries I think I should make my 'stunt-offer' more clear to you all. 29c28 Ok=E9, a clear example for a nice 'Hulls+Mast-set-deal': Oké, a clear example for a nice 'Hulls+Mast-set-deal': 32,33c31 - if you do so, you MAY extend this order with two sets BSB-masts, each f= or an - if you do so, you MAY extend this order with two sets BSB-masts, each for an 35,38c33,34 (ONE BSB-mast-set =3D 2x long mast-base + 2x thick middle-mast + 3x thin = top-mast -one for the bow- + 2x grey mast-plate + 4x long rigging). Quite a bargai= n, if I (ONE BSB-mast-set = 2x long mast-base + 2x thick middle-mast + 3x thin top-mast -one for the bow- + 2x grey mast-plate + 4x long rigging). Quite a bargain, if I 43,44c39 Grand Total: 2x hull =E0 36 + 2x mast-set =E0 10 =3D $92.00 + shipping (U= SA Grand Total: 2x hull à 36 + 2x mast-set à 10 = $92.00 + shipping (USA 46,47c41 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 49,50c43 I hope all your questions are answered herewith! If not: just ask specifi= c info. I hope all your questions are answered herewith! If not: just ask specific info. 54c47 http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=3Dgreenman http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=greenman 59,60c52 > = > 62,67c54,56 > = > BUT: for a period of 2 weeks I would like to give TEH READERS OF THIS G= ROUP a > chance to obtain enough Hulls, accompanied by the correct Mast-set for = that > > BUT: for a period of 2 weeks I would like to give TEH READERS OF THIS GROUP a > chance to obtain enough Hulls, accompanied by the correct Mast-set for that 69,72c58,59 > = > In my BB-shop there are many hulls for 6268, 6271, 6274 6285 and 6286 != ! Way > > In my BB-shop there are many hulls for 6268, 6271, 6274 6285 and 6286 !! Way 74,79c61,63 > = > So: anyone who buys at least two (2) hulls this month (Nov.2001) gets f= or the > hulls he/she buys the COMPLETE MAST SET, incl. riggings and mast-platfo= rm for > > So: anyone who buys at least two (2) hulls this month (Nov.2001) gets for the > hulls he/she buys the COMPLETE MAST SET, incl. riggings and mast-platform for 81,82c65 > = > 85,88c68,70 > = > I anyone wants to SHOOT ME because of this posting: please use words...= =2E and I > > I anyone wants to SHOOT ME because of this posting: please use words.... and > I 90,91c72 > = > 93,95c74,75 > http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?p=3Dgreenman > = > http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?p=greenman > 97,101c77,80 > ADD the TITLE of this posting in the bb-orderform comments-field (Hulls= + masts > COMBI =3D>> STUNT). > = > ADD the TITLE of this posting in the bb-orderform comments-field (Hulls + > masts > COMBI =>> STUNT). >
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lugnet.publish:417 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 28 Lines: 26 22,23c23 >However, I noticed that some of the links on the page were incomplete.= I'm not >However, I noticed that some of the links on the page were incomplete. I'm not 29,33c29,32 Oh, was the one I had an old one? I'm sure Richard is probably reading it= and will fix that. Since he was nice enough to offer to put up a couple= more pictures I will probably work on some more renderings tommorow. I am= not that familiar with POV though so they will probably be preset ones= using L3PAO. Oh, was the one I had an old one? I'm sure Richard is probably reading it and will fix that. Since he was nice enough to offer to put up a couple more pictures I will probably work on some more renderings tommorow. I am not that familiar with POV though so they will probably be preset ones using L3PAO. 40,44c39,43 Don't know :) I don't like long laser bolts, I like the rapid-fire look. I= would have made them glowing but it doesn't work to stick light.dat inside= of them. I geuss I might as well tell you how I came up with the idea for= laser bolts, two words: Steve's Lightsaber :) I just shortened it. In case= no one noticed the only dead minifigs are the "armored" stormtroopers. Don't know :) I don't like long laser bolts, I like the rapid-fire look. I would have made them glowing but it doesn't work to stick light.dat inside of them. I geuss I might as well tell you how I came up with the idea for laser bolts, two words: Steve's Lightsaber :) I just shortened it. In case no one noticed the only dead minifigs are the "armored" stormtroopers. 48d46
lugnet.publish:420 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 I wanted to let you know that Richard Dee has added a couple more pictures= of my Hoth Battle Scene. They are from some different views(you asked for= them Bram, and now you've got 'em). PLMKWYT I wanted to let you know that Richard Dee has added a couple more pictures of my Hoth Battle Scene. They are from some different views(you asked for them Bram, and now you've got 'em). PLMKWYT 26d26
lugnet.reviews:628 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 Tobias M=F6ller wrote: Tobias Möller wrote: 39d39
lugnet.robotics:352 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 52,53c53 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden
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lugnet.robotics:600 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 11 Lines: 10 24,25c25 >2. Where can I get a micro motor. I see one in the Space Shuttle set = (but that=20 >2. Where can I get a micro motor. I see one in the Space Shuttle set (but that 31d30
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lugnet.robotics:770 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,19c19,20 Target sells this kit. It includes the powerpack, motor and gears. It = also comes with a white slip gear to protect your motor from damage. Target sells this kit. It includes the powerpack, motor and gears. It also comes with a white slip gear to protect your motor from damage. 22c23 I just bought one the other day for the extra motor=20 I just bought one the other day for the extra motor 31c32 >=20 > 37,39c38 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:783 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 104 Lines: 95 18,23c19,21 If you do not want to be limited to four floors you could have one long = rod with "bumps" at every floor. With something sticking out of the = elevator car, you know you have reached a floor everytime the rod is lifted from = the If you do not want to be limited to four floors you could have one long rod with "bumps" at every floor. With something sticking out of the elevator car, you know you have reached a floor everytime the rod is lifted from the 25,26c23 counting you can put a sensor under the elevator car so it knows it is = on counting you can put a sensor under the elevator car so it knows it is on 47,50c44,47 S =3D sensor | =3D rod -> =3D spokes sticking out of rod <- =3D spoke stiking out of elevator to lift the rod=20 S = sensor | = rod -> = spokes sticking out of rod <- = spoke stiking out of elevator to lift the rod 53,56c50,51 The other way is to put a sensor on the elevator car that detects the = bump on every floor. That's much simpler but the brick and motor get to be = on the The other way is to put a sensor on the elevator car that detects the bump on every floor. That's much simpler but the brick and motor get to be on the 61,62c56,57 Pr=E9sident, ClicNet T=E9l=E9communications, Inc Qu=E9: 418-686-2542 Fax: 682-6247 Président, ClicNet Télécommunications, Inc Qué: 418-686-2542 Fax: 682-6247 90,91c85 sensor. that way you would know what floor you were on. You could = then sensor. that way you would know what floor you were on. You could then 102c96 >=20 > 104c98 >=20 > 110,113c104,105 > > cutting tool (part of a tap and die set available at most good = hardware > > stores). Check out http://www.net-info.com/~dcarlson/ near the = bottom > > cutting tool (part of a tap and die set available at most good hardware > > stores). Check out http://www.net-info.com/~dcarlson/ near the bottom 115c107 >=20 > 117c109 >=20 > 120c112 >=20 > 122d113
lugnet.robotics:838 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 72 Lines: 71 21,49c22,50 I've created one with 452 that works OK, but had to stop around that number= because after more 2 or 3 lines of code the last task simply disappeared= (my program had 1 main plus 3 tasks). I guess the limit must be about 460/470 bytes, which is enough to make some= complex programs but not too large ones. The program source had 154 lines= code of and 3950 bytes of size. I'm learning some optimizations we can make with CyberMaster (only) when= using the motors, which along with some easy code optimizations should= shrink my inefficient program to about 350 bytes of compiled code (I'm only= guessing though). I only wish they have put some external memory on the RCX has they did in= the RCX!!! :-( The CyberMaster is wonderful for making exploration vehicles, with a range= of at least 13 meters (thru a zigzagging hall and across 2 rooms!), with= some extra-sensitive (50 ticks for 360=BA of rotation) and useful tacho= counters in each internal motor, some huge super-cool and exclusive= threads... it's great! :-D I've built 2 touch sensitive antennas in mine, and downloaded a basic= (although somewhat intelligent) search and obstacle avoiding program. I'm thinking now in using the OCX to monitor my bug-like rover and to map a= room in the PC memory. I'm going to use the Tacho counters in the threads to get the approximate= position and direction where the rover is facing (the difference between= the 2 Tachos should give us a direction), which I think is feasible with= some finetunning. Then, at each impact the computer will map a point in the screen and with= some luck map a room. :-) I've created one with 452 that works OK, but had to stop around that number because after more 2 or 3 lines of code the last task simply disappeared (my program had 1 main plus 3 tasks). I guess the limit must be about 460/470 bytes, which is enough to make some complex programs but not too large ones. The program source had 154 lines code of and 3950 bytes of size. I'm learning some optimizations we can make with CyberMaster (only) when using the motors, which along with some easy code optimizations should shrink my inefficient program to about 350 bytes of compiled code (I'm only guessing though). I only wish they have put some external memory on the RCX has they did in the RCX!!! :-( The CyberMaster is wonderful for making exploration vehicles, with a range of at least 13 meters (thru a zigzagging hall and across 2 rooms!), with some extra-sensitive (50 ticks for 360º of rotation) and useful tacho counters in each internal motor, some huge super-cool and exclusive threads... it's great! :-D I've built 2 touch sensitive antennas in mine, and downloaded a basic (although somewhat intelligent) search and obstacle avoiding program. I'm thinking now in using the OCX to monitor my bug-like rover and to map a room in the PC memory. I'm going to use the Tacho counters in the threads to get the approximate position and direction where the rover is facing (the difference between the 2 Tachos should give us a direction), which I think is feasible with some finetunning. Then, at each impact the computer will map a point in the screen and with some luck map a room. :-) 52,56c53,56 If any of you is using NQC with a CyberMaster, download NQC 1.0 Beta 2 which= already supports CyberMaster download along with some CyberMaster specific= code. I'm working with Dave Baum (the NQC author) in creating a new RCX.NQH with= even better CyberMaster support. Contact me if you wish to exchange ideas. If any of you is using NQC with a CyberMaster, download NQC 1.0 Beta 2 which already supports CyberMaster download along with some CyberMaster specific code. I'm working with Dave Baum (the NQC author) in creating a new RCX.NQH with even better CyberMaster support. Contact me if you wish to exchange ideas. 79c79 >#define WAITPLAY wait(IN_1=3D=3D1);PlaySound(1);wait(IN_1=3D=3D0); >#define WAITPLAY wait(IN_1==1);PlaySound(1);wait(IN_1==0); 92d91
lugnet.robotics:844 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 66 Lines: 62 23,28c24,27 >>I'm going to use the Tacho counters in the threads to get the approximate= =20 >>position and direction where the rover is facing (the difference between= =20 >the 2=20 >>Tachos should give us a direction), which I think is feasible with some=20 >>I'm going to use the Tacho counters in the threads to get the approximate >>position and direction where the rover is facing (the difference between >the 2 >>Tachos should give us a direction), which I think is feasible with some 30,32c29,30 >>Then, at each impact the computer will map a point in the screen and with= =20 >some=20 >>Then, at each impact the computer will map a point in the screen and with >some 43,44c41,42 There's nothing unknown about the Tachos. If you need help using them, gimme= a call. :-) There's nothing unknown about the Tachos. If you need help using them, gimme a call. :-) 55,85c53,80 The best vehicle would be one with a lot of traction to the ground to avoid= any slippage. That was my first idea, but after playing a bit with the= wheel base models they teach in the CD, I've thought that would be much= easier to me if I stick with the base tank configuration. I know it's worst for precision to use threads, but for my first project= using the CyberMaster I though that would be OK. Then, I needed a way to detect impacts ahead of the real impact. If you let= you vehicle touch the object then there's the chance it to rotate with the= violence of the impact. I designed two flexible bug-like antennas. They are in the shape of an open= V with independent rotation (although they never cross). Behind each one I= have put one touch sensor so I can sense impacts on the left or right= without affecting the CyberMaster unit. Then I created a program that senses impacts and voids them by backing up a= bit, rotate a random value to the opposite side of the impact (between 5=BA= and 45=BA), and proceed forward. I also used another task to watch sensors= during maneuvers. If when maneuvering to avoid an obstacle you touch= another object in the opposite side, them you must be in a tight alley (my= room have a few of them). It then reverses (between 5 to 20 centimeters)= rotating a random value and proceeds forward. With this simple design I can explore my whole room and the simple trick to= get out of difficult situations is the random rotations. It works best than= I expected! In the future, I'm going to put the 3rd. touch sensor in a bumper in the= back of the unit since it might impact on some object when reversing and I= would never know. I haven't done that already because I'm a bit out of ideas how to make= flexible a bumper for the whole rear (the CyberMaster is my only LEGO). Any= ideas? Laurentino Martins=20 The best vehicle would be one with a lot of traction to the ground to avoid any slippage. That was my first idea, but after playing a bit with the wheel base models they teach in the CD, I've thought that would be much easier to me if I stick with the base tank configuration. I know it's worst for precision to use threads, but for my first project using the CyberMaster I though that would be OK. Then, I needed a way to detect impacts ahead of the real impact. If you let you vehicle touch the object then there's the chance it to rotate with the violence of the impact. I designed two flexible bug-like antennas. They are in the shape of an open V with independent rotation (although they never cross). Behind each one I have put one touch sensor so I can sense impacts on the left or right without affecting the CyberMaster unit. Then I created a program that senses impacts and voids them by backing up a bit, rotate a random value to the opposite side of the impact (between 5º and 45º), and proceed forward. I also used another task to watch sensors during maneuvers. If when maneuvering to avoid an obstacle you touch another object in the opposite side, them you must be in a tight alley (my room have a few of them). It then reverses (between 5 to 20 centimeters) rotating a random value and proceeds forward. With this simple design I can explore my whole room and the simple trick to get out of difficult situations is the random rotations. It works best than I expected! In the future, I'm going to put the 3rd. touch sensor in a bumper in the back of the unit since it might impact on some object when reversing and I would never know. I haven't done that already because I'm a bit out of ideas how to make flexible a bumper for the whole rear (the CyberMaster is my only LEGO). Any ideas? 86a82 Laurentino Martins
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lugnet.robotics:950 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 76 Lines: 73 25,26c26 >language. I'm not up to date on current Logo implementations, but from wha= t >language. I'm not up to date on current Logo implementations, but from what 30,31c30 >learning object orientation. SmallTalk has the nice self-developmental fee= l >learning object orientation. SmallTalk has the nice self-developmental feel 49,50c48 >Also, I'd love to do a predator-prey evolution project, but alas I have onl= y >Also, I'd love to do a predator-prey evolution project, but alas I have only 95,97d92
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lugnet.robotics:1115 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 33 Lines: 31 17,23c18,23 The RoboSports expansion includes an extra motor, the Extreme Creatures = includes a fiber optic set (both output devices). Check out = Pitsco/LegoDacta (http://www.pitsco-legodacta.com) for individual = sensors (touch, light, temperature, angle) for about $30 ea. Or, I'ld = recommend you just get another RIS kit that includes the 2 touch and 1 = light sensors plus all those other great pieces! It really is a great = deal as far as robotics goes. The RoboSports expansion includes an extra motor, the Extreme Creatures includes a fiber optic set (both output devices). Check out Pitsco/LegoDacta (http://www.pitsco-legodacta.com) for individual sensors (touch, light, temperature, angle) for about $30 ea. Or, I'ld recommend you just get another RIS kit that includes the 2 touch and 1 light sensors plus all those other great pieces! It really is a great deal as far as robotics goes. 37,38c37 I am going to order my MindStorms set now, but I feel the basic kit = includes I am going to order my MindStorms set now, but I feel the basic kit includes 46c45 Simen Svale Skogsrud; Producer, Medieoperat=F8rene as Simen Svale Skogsrud; Producer, Medieoperatørene as 50,52d48
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lugnet.robotics:1324 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 31,32c32 Robolab is aimed at younger children than the Mindstorms software. It = says 8 Robolab is aimed at younger children than the Mindstorms software. It says 8 36d35
lugnet.robotics:1339 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 52,53c53 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden
lugnet.robotics:1357 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25,27c26,28 For instants, in the UK MindStorms is sold at $270 (=A3160) at Toys "R" Us. That's why we go to the States to buy a MindStorms, but that's also why= almost nobody comes to Europe to buy a LEGO. For instants, in the UK MindStorms is sold at $270 (£160) at Toys "R" Us. That's why we go to the States to buy a MindStorms, but that's also why almost nobody comes to Europe to buy a LEGO. 35d35
lugnet.robotics:1358 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 28,30c29,31 For instants, in the UK MindStorms is sold at $270 (=A3160) at Toys "R" Us. That's why we go to the States to buy a MindStorms, but that's also why= almost nobody comes to Europe to buy a LEGO. For instants, in the UK MindStorms is sold at $270 (£160) at Toys "R" Us. That's why we go to the States to buy a MindStorms, but that's also why almost nobody comes to Europe to buy a LEGO. 38d38
lugnet.robotics:1364 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18,19 Has any seen or made one of these? I figure this would make a mapping = robot more versatile than just relying on just rotational information. Has any seen or made one of these? I figure this would make a mapping robot more versatile than just relying on just rotational information.
lugnet.robotics:1387 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 37 Lines: 32 17,19c18,19 I found a module at = http://www.jameco.com/cfm/viewdesc.cfm?part_num=3D126703 but it appears = to only have serial output. The Dinsmore compass also seems to be = I found a module at http://www.jameco.com/cfm/viewdesc.cfm?part_num=126703 but it appears to only have serial output. The Dinsmore compass also seems to be 28c28 http://www.legomindstorms.com/mypage/loadRCX.asp?UserID=3D1897&SlotN=3D1 http://www.legomindstorms.com/mypage/loadRCX.asp?UserID=1897&SlotN=1 31c31 >=20 > 33,34c33 > Has any seen or made one of these? I figure this would make a mapping = robot > Has any seen or made one of these? I figure this would make a mapping robot 36,42c35,38 >=20 > Someone (who has a Mindstorms homepage) made one with a cheap real = compass, > and light sensor. The compass was raised up a bit to prevent = interference > with motors. You will have to search the members page at Lego = Mindstorms to > > Someone (who has a Mindstorms homepage) made one with a cheap real compass, > and light sensor. The compass was raised up a bit to prevent interference > with motors. You will have to search the members page at Lego Mindstorms to 44c40 >=20 > 47c43 --=20 -- 54d49
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lugnet.robotics:1419 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 59,60c60 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden
lugnet.robotics:1422 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 26 21,22c22 >these two sets was negligible enough to warrant an RIS <-> Cybermaster= trade >these two sets was negligible enough to warrant an RIS <-> Cybermaster trade 25,26c25 >each other. I'm not ready to do this right now, as I am allocating funds= for >each other. I'm not ready to do this right now, as I am allocating funds for 34,35c33 here in Sweden is 1399 SEK at TousRUs, which equals to about $175 US= Dollars. here in Sweden is 1399 SEK at TousRUs, which equals to about $175 US Dollars. 47,48c45 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden
lugnet.robotics:1428 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 >I'd appreciate info on where to download the NQC (Not Quite C)=20 >I'd appreciate info on where to download the NQC (Not Quite C) 36,37c37 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden
lugnet.robotics:1445 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 9 Lines: 8 17,18c18 Does anybody know an online shop where I can get a Lego Mindstroms kit be= fore Does anybody know an online shop where I can get a Lego Mindstroms kit before 24,26c24,25 More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at htt= p://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail
lugnet.robotics:1517 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 7 Lines: 6 17,23c18,19 Just wondering on how one would go about programming this. I presently = have a small robot designed, which is required to send backing to the = PC. I'm assuming that you have to use GetLongTermRetransmitStatistics() but = I think all it returns is the frame number that was sent. Does anyone = have any code examples in VB on how to do this. Just wondering on how one would go about programming this. I presently have a small robot designed, which is required to send backing to the PC. 24a21,23 I'm assuming that you have to use GetLongTermRetransmitStatistics() but I think all it returns is the frame number that was sent. Does anyone have any code examples in VB on how to do this.
lugnet.robotics:1591 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 53c54 to set the voltage (mark/space =3D low/high) on the outgoing ports DTR and to set the voltage (mark/space = low/high) on the outgoing ports DTR and 112,113c113 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden
lugnet.robotics:1604 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 35 Lines: 34 19,20c20 error which says this program (IE4.01 for Mac) can't understand the protoco= l error which says this program (IE4.01 for Mac) can't understand the protocol 50,51c50,51 >INRIA Rh=F4ne-Alpes http://www.inrialpes.fr/ >IPR Universit=E4t Karlsruhe http://wwwipr.ira.uka.de/ >INRIA Rhône-Alpes http://www.inrialpes.fr/ >IPR Universität Karlsruhe http://wwwipr.ira.uka.de/ 53d52
lugnet.robotics:1632 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 37 Lines: 30 17,19c18 Why not set a variable with 1 or 0, e.g. 1=3DForward, 0=3DBackwards. = This way when the robot hits something you would know what direction = it's traveling in. Why not set a variable with 1 or 0, e.g. 1=Forward, 0=Backwards. This way when the robot hits something you would know what direction it's traveling in. 30,40c29,34 >=20 > For those of you with LEGO pneumatics, I've got a question. There = seems to > be a need for an all-around-the-robot bump detector. Would this work? = Wrap > soft rubber tubing around the robot, seal one end of the tube, and = connect > the other to a pneumatic cylinder. Have the cylinder push on a touch = switch > just short of turning it on. When the robot bumps something the = pressure in > > For those of you with LEGO pneumatics, I've got a question. There seems to > be a need for an all-around-the-robot bump detector. Would this work? Wrap > soft rubber tubing around the robot, seal one end of the tube, and connect > the other to a pneumatic cylinder. Have the cylinder push on a touch switch > just short of turning it on. When the robot bumps something the pressure in 51c45 --=20 -- 54d47
lugnet.robotics:1646 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 22 Lines: 18 21,26c22,24 >Thanks for the response. There are some good ideas here. I think that = I >will start by looking for some thin wall surgical tubing, and looking = into >gum rubber and silicon tubing. There is a RC model store on my way = home, >Thanks for the response. There are some good ideas here. I think that I >will start by looking for some thin wall surgical tubing, and looking into >gum rubber and silicon tubing. There is a RC model store on my way home, 29,30c27 >I will post my results of the most flexible found if any one is = interested. >I will post my results of the most flexible found if any one is interested. 41d37
lugnet.robotics:1692 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 25 27c28 >staendig Diskussionen =FCber Bezugsquellen etc. Ich ignoriere meist alles >staendig Diskussionen über Bezugsquellen etc. Ich ignoriere meist alles 34,37c35,36 The only places you can buy MindStorms I know of is the States, Canada and= UK. There are also a few companies selling it by mail like RobotStore and= others. The only places you can buy MindStorms I know of is the States, Canada and UK. There are also a few companies selling it by mail like RobotStore and others. 46d44
lugnet.robotics:1760 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 9 Lines: 7 17,20c18,19 I ordered a Lego Mindstorms System recently. But now, when I read all you= r mails, I wonder if its really a toy for our eleven year old boy or if its= a I ordered a Lego Mindstorms System recently. But now, when I read all your mails, I wonder if its really a toy for our eleven year old boy or if its a 24,26c23,24 More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at htt= p://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail
lugnet.robotics:1867 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 56 Lines: 55 54,56c55,56 >> 5=B0 >> Ickna is not a toy, may be toxic to less that .00013% of the population= of >> 5° >> Ickna is not a toy, may be toxic to less that .00013% of the population of 77d76
lugnet.robotics:1880 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 30 22,23c23 >>Try these people - they're primarily educational suppliers but they = will >>Try these people - they're primarily educational suppliers but they will 38,39c38 >Legoland Windsor is still cheaper, and if you know the number of the = part you=20 >Legoland Windsor is still cheaper, and if you know the number of the part you 51d49
lugnet.robotics:1881 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 18,20c19,21 I've been looking at the multiple sensor input problem... wouldn't it be = simpler to use a series resistor network, rather than parallel, something = like this: I've been looking at the multiple sensor input problem... wouldn't it be simpler to use a series resistor network, rather than parallel, something like this: 28,33c29,33 If the calculations are correct, this should give raw readings between 0 = and 31, depending on which switches are OPEN. This would then be easy to = decode.... I havn't played with this on the RCX, the resistor values may = have to be adjusted or scaled, depending on the accuracy of the A/D = conversion, but keeping the values low makes this a (relatively) linear = function. If the calculations are correct, this should give raw readings between 0 and 31, depending on which switches are OPEN. This would then be easy to decode.... I havn't played with this on the RCX, the resistor values may have to be adjusted or scaled, depending on the accuracy of the A/D conversion, but keeping the values low makes this a (relatively) linear function. 40d39
lugnet.robotics:1885 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24,25c25,26 cybermaster does not receive information. What is wrong=3F Is there any good web sites=3F cybermaster does not receive information. What is wrong? Is there any good web sites? 30c31 Private Sub DownloadFirmware=5FClick() Private Sub DownloadFirmware_Click() 34c35 Private Sub DownPrgm=5FClick() Private Sub DownPrgm_Click() 36c37 'simple motor on=20wait off test program 'simple motor on wait off test program 40c41 PBrickCtrl.Wait CON, 50=20 'wait 0.5 sec PBrickCtrl.Wait CON, 50 'wait 0.5 sec 46c47 'change direction and drive 2=20sec 'change direction and drive 2 sec 51c52 PBrickCtrl.PlaySystemSound SWEEP=5FFAST=5FSOUND PBrickCtrl.PlaySystemSound SWEEP_FAST_SOUND 60d60
lugnet.robotics:1906 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 57c58 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden 61d61
lugnet.robotics:1977 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26c27 >nothing attached, the motor will turn around. New batteries don=B4t help. >nothing attached, the motor will turn around. New batteries don´t help. 31c32 >All three motors are victim=B4s of this strange behaviour. >All three motors are victim´s of this strange behaviour. 39,41c40,42 I know you said that fresh batteries didn't fixed it, but the only time it= happened to me it happened *exactly* the way you said and the fix was to= purchase new batteries. I know you said that fresh batteries didn't fixed it, but the only time it happened to me it happened *exactly* the way you said and the fix was to purchase new batteries. 52d52
lugnet.robotics:2030 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 111 Lines: 84 22,29c23,26 > Interesting !! Nice to have someone else tackling the problem, I guess= if > your on the Internet your never alone :) That is a good idea about usi= ng > MEL, it should be possible to construct a file, perhaps even standardiz= e a > format to it and then read it in and send the important bits to the Leg= o RCX > Interesting !! Nice to have someone else tackling the problem, I guess if > your on the Internet your never alone :) That is a good idea about using > MEL, it should be possible to construct a file, perhaps even standardize a > format to it and then read it in and send the important bits to the Lego RCX 33,36c30,31 > As far as getting the pieces into Maya I have had fairly decent results= in > measuring and modelling each individual piece in a CAD package and impo= rting > As far as getting the pieces into Maya I have had fairly decent results in > measuring and modelling each individual piece in a CAD package and importing 39,40c34 I wish I had the time to do this, but all my modeling time gets taken up = by I wish I had the time to do this, but all my modeling time gets taken up by 44,51c38,41 > Co-ordinate system such that 1cm =3D 1cm in the "Real World"(tm) (I hav= e found > centimeters to be the most practical units of measurement thus far).. = I > will have to look at whether you can then get rotational data that is t= o > scale (I would assume so but a test is always necessary). I import via= DXF, > Co-ordinate system such that 1cm = 1cm in the "Real World"(tm) (I have found > centimeters to be the most practical units of measurement thus far).. I > will have to look at whether you can then get rotational data that is to > scale (I would assume so but a test is always necessary). I import via DXF, 54,55c44 > Then, assuming you have all the rot data, it should be possible to buil= d a > Then, assuming you have all the rot data, it should be possible to build a 58,59c47 > pre-designed to move those joints (make a function "ROTATE LEFT SHOULDE= R > pre-designed to move those joints (make a function "ROTATE LEFT SHOULDER 62,73c50,55 My solution on the Maya side of things, is to setup all the gears with a = series of "Driven Keys" so that each gear in turn forces the appropriate movemen= t out of the surrounding gears. This chain of gears in turn drives (once again = through driven keys) a "motor" object, every 360=BA of "motor" rotation I have an= expression increment a variable (motorN_rot). In the real world I plan to= put a rotation sensor on each motor and use it to match up full rotations of th= e motor My solution on the Maya side of things, is to setup all the gears with a series of "Driven Keys" so that each gear in turn forces the appropriate movement out of the surrounding gears. This chain of gears in turn drives (once again through driven keys) a "motor" object, every 360º of "motor" rotation I have an expression increment a variable (motorN_rot). In the real world I plan to put a rotation sensor on each motor and use it to match up full rotations of the motor 84,89c66,68 > The other problem will be one of timing, getting the program to be in s= ynch > with Maya's timing mechanism of 30 frames per second. Mabye set the pr= ogram > up so it executes x number of actions per minute ? I don't know, I nee= d to > The other problem will be one of timing, getting the program to be in synch > with Maya's timing mechanism of 30 frames per second. Mabye set the program > up so it executes x number of actions per minute ? I don't know, I need to 92,95c71,72 Wow, I have been working in SMPTE so long that I never thought about this= =2E However Maya (at least as of V1.5) has a time setting for milliseconds, s= econds, Wow, I have been working in SMPTE so long that I never thought about this. However Maya (at least as of V1.5) has a time setting for milliseconds, seconds, 102,103c79 Ldraw parts look good on instructions but their dimensions are not too ex= act, Ldraw parts look good on instructions but their dimensions are not too exact, 107,108c83 > the little studes on lego pieces, there is an instance plugin in the KP= T > the little studes on lego pieces, there is an instance plugin in the KPT 111,112c86 Unfortunately I do not have this tool. How much does it cost? Where can I= get Unfortunately I do not have this tool. How much does it cost? Where can I get 131d104
lugnet.robotics:2201 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 26 Lines: 25 32,33c33 Still, I agree it would be great with a standard RS232 connection on the RC= X! Still, I agree it would be great with a standard RS232 connection on the RCX! 42c42 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden 46d45
lugnet.robotics:2208 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 41 Lines: 40 20c21 >>At 10:23 10-12-1998 Thursday , Fredrik Gl=F6ckner wrote: >>At 10:23 10-12-1998 Thursday , Fredrik Glöckner wrote: 37,38c38 >I just started reading this newsgroup, as the kids got their (and _mine_)= CM >I just started reading this newsgroup, as the kids got their (and _mine_) CM 48,50c48,50 In my test I saw that the value looked like random, and in fact it is very= unstable, but I didn't went any further to see if it had a pattern. I'm= glad it has. In my test I saw that the value looked like random, and in fact it is very unstable, but I didn't went any further to see if it had a pattern. I'm glad it has. 60d59
lugnet.robotics:2280 7c7,8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 49 Lines: 46 19,20c20,21 The prospect of using 3D transform/rotate data from Maya or any other = animation program for real world robotic control is a great idea. =20 The prospect of using 3D transform/rotate data from Maya or any other animation program for real world robotic control is a great idea. 22,43c23,42 Using Maya's dynamics module, we could accurately simulate an = environment and then develop "behaviors" for our creations... Maya is = the ultimate program to build expressions, driven keys, and low level = MEL commands to really make a living creature in digital 3D. Forget = setting animation keyframes, just program your digital bots with MEL and = then press the play button to generate motion from the conditions that = you have assigned to skeletons, lattices, and clusters. The = implications of the internal behavior modeling alone is awesome! Then, developing a standard interface to transfer data from Maya through = the serial, parallel, USB, or MIDI port of the computer will allow us to = control our robotic Legos, BASIC Stamp driven 'bots, PIC chip 'bots, and = other microcontrollers. =20 I am extremely interested in helping on this "interface" between Maya = and a computer port... Both for input (Motion Capture) and output = (Device Control) reasons. The BASIC Stamp 2 would be my first choice = for communication, but the Lego RCX would be great too. If any of you = have a Maya ASCII/Binary to serial data converter, please tell me about = it! I would be interested in helping program a realtime MEL GUInterface = (w/sliders, conditional buttons, etc..) to take in serial data and send = out serial data. =20 Using Maya's dynamics module, we could accurately simulate an environment and then develop "behaviors" for our creations... Maya is the ultimate program to build expressions, driven keys, and low level MEL commands to really make a living creature in digital 3D. Forget setting animation keyframes, just program your digital bots with MEL and then press the play button to generate motion from the conditions that you have assigned to skeletons, lattices, and clusters. The implications of the internal behavior modeling alone is awesome! Then, developing a standard interface to transfer data from Maya through the serial, parallel, USB, or MIDI port of the computer will allow us to control our robotic Legos, BASIC Stamp driven 'bots, PIC chip 'bots, and other microcontrollers. I am extremely interested in helping on this "interface" between Maya and a computer port... Both for input (Motion Capture) and output (Device Control) reasons. The BASIC Stamp 2 would be my first choice for communication, but the Lego RCX would be great too. If any of you have a Maya ASCII/Binary to serial data converter, please tell me about it! I would be interested in helping program a realtime MEL GUInterface (w/sliders, conditional buttons, etc..) to take in serial data and send out serial data. 55,59c54,57 Maya is an advanced 3D modeling and animation program for SGI and PC = workstations...MEL is the Maya Embedded Language that allows low level = programming access to all of Maya's commands...you can basically make = your own 3D program from MEL. It's really awesome...and has great = robotics applications! Maya is an advanced 3D modeling and animation program for SGI and PC workstations...MEL is the Maya Embedded Language that allows low level programming access to all of Maya's commands...you can basically make your own 3D program from MEL. It's really awesome...and has great robotics applications! 66d63
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lugnet.robotics:2773 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 60 Lines: 53 28,29c29 >I detailed making a plastic bottle tank in an previous post on = Pneumatics >I detailed making a plastic bottle tank in an previous post on Pneumatics 32,33c32 >bottle. I haven't pressurized it until the pumps bleed off excess, = because >bottle. I haven't pressurized it until the pumps bleed off excess, because 35,44c34,38 >holes in the lid and awl out with scissors, cut two small (slightly = smaller >than tube diameter) holes in the liner corresponding with the lid's = holes, >add tubes through the lid and liner... if the holes are small enough = they >are self sealing. I wouldn't recommend drilling the holes because the = holes >might be too clean and not self-seal as well. "Pushing" the holes = through >holes in the lid and awl out with scissors, cut two small (slightly smaller >than tube diameter) holes in the liner corresponding with the lid's holes, >add tubes through the lid and liner... if the holes are small enough they >are self sealing. I wouldn't recommend drilling the holes because the holes >might be too clean and not self-seal as well. "Pushing" the holes through 66c60 very good solution.=20 very good solution. 68c62 Your worm/gear/lever combo is fantastic.=20 Your worm/gear/lever combo is fantastic. 80d73
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lugnet.robotics:2914 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 75 Lines: 69 24,25c25 happy when it arrived (how many times have you asked for something = which happy when it arrived (how many times have you asked for something which 30,33c30,33 Touch sensor: =A313.99 (2x4 brick, unlike Mindstorms sensor) Temperature sensor: =A321.49 Light sensor: =A321.49 Angle sensor: =A321.49 Touch sensor: £13.99 (2x4 brick, unlike Mindstorms sensor) Temperature sensor: £21.49 Light sensor: £21.49 Angle sensor: £21.49 37,41c37,41 DC Sound element: =A36.99 DC Lamp x 3: =A316.49 RCX (9709): =A374.99 Robolab software: =A318.49 Lego CAD: =A362.49 DC Sound element: £6.99 DC Lamp x 3: £16.49 RCX (9709): £74.99 Robolab software: £18.49 Lego CAD: £62.49 44,45c44 1/2 the price of a Mindstorms kit? What's even more telling is that = the 1/2 the price of a Mindstorms kit? What's even more telling is that the 49,52c48,49 software bundled (no other building pieces) costs =A3149.99 -- better = to purchase a retail Mindstorms kit at =A3159.95 IMO. And you don't want = to software bundled (no other building pieces) costs £149.99 -- better to purchase a retail Mindstorms kit at £159.95 IMO. And you don't want to 68c65 >=20 > 70,72c67,68 >=20 > > can. If you connect the two power wires together from two motors = and > > > can. If you connect the two power wires together from two motors and 77c73 >=20 > 79c75 >=20 > 85,86c81,82 > hard to tell since I haven't yet found a UK price for sensors.=20 >=20 > hard to tell since I haven't yet found a UK price for sensors. > 88c84 >=20 > 90,91c86 > Did you check the web site first?: = http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics > Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics 94d88
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lugnet.robotics:3394 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 71 Lines: 70 49,52c50,53 =A315.60 (I saw a LEGO ZNAP set with the same motor in Tesco for =A315ish), 2 2*2 wired plates (25.6 cm) is =A33.90. 1 pneumatic cylinder (48mm) is =A32.65. Most packs seem to be around the =A33- =A34 mark, with some things like a pair of large wheels at =A35. £15.60 (I saw a LEGO ZNAP set with the same motor in Tesco for £15ish), 2 2*2 wired plates (25.6 cm) is £3.90. 1 pneumatic cylinder (48mm) is £2.65. Most packs seem to be around the £3- £4 mark, with some things like a pair of large wheels at £5. 75,78c76,78 > Does anyone know where to purchase the Lego service packs in the UK? Pre= ferably by mail order or at least close to Sheffield. > Failing that a mail order address in the States that takes Visa would be= okay. > Does anyone know where to purchase the Lego service packs in the UK? > Preferably by mail order or at least close to Sheffield. > Failing that a mail order address in the States that takes Visa would be okay. 88c88 Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! =3D=3D http://www.cauce.org/ Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! == http://www.cauce.org/ 91d90
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lugnet.robotics:3548 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 40,45c41,46 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> The Portuguese 1999 LEGO catalog makes reference to a set that=20 >> seems to be an expansion pack for the CyberMaster, much like the=20 >> expansion packs for the MindStorms. It says it will be introduced=20 >> >> >> >> The Portuguese 1999 LEGO catalog makes reference to a set that >> seems to be an expansion pack for the CyberMaster, much like the >> expansion packs for the MindStorms. It says it will be introduced 47,49c48,50 >>=20 >> It's called 8450 "The Mission" and pictures a TNT time bomb=20 >> ticking with the digits: 1/9-1999, and a CyberMaster case in an=20 >> >> It's called 8450 "The Mission" and pictures a TNT time bomb >> ticking with the digits: 1/9-1999, and a CyberMaster case in an 51c52 >>=20 >> 53,54c54,55 >>=20 >>=20 >> >> 56c57 >>=20 >> 59c60 >>=20 >> 62c63 >>=20 >> 65c66 >=20 > 74c75 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden 78d78
lugnet.robotics:3550 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 Seems to me they made a "general purpose" picture for something they don't= have any idea how to picture it yet. Seems to me they made a "general purpose" picture for something they don't have any idea how to picture it yet. 24,25c25,26 I wonder if it is only a software pack with a few parts like the MindStorms= expansion packs, or something else like new hardware and stuff... :-) I wonder if it is only a software pack with a few parts like the MindStorms expansion packs, or something else like new hardware and stuff... :-) 54,59c55,60 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> The Portuguese 1999 LEGO catalog makes reference to a set that=20 >>> seems to be an expansion pack for the CyberMaster, much like the=20 >>> expansion packs for the MindStorms. It says it will be introduced=20 >>> >>> >>> >>> The Portuguese 1999 LEGO catalog makes reference to a set that >>> seems to be an expansion pack for the CyberMaster, much like the >>> expansion packs for the MindStorms. It says it will be introduced 61,63c62,64 >>>=20 >>> It's called 8450 "The Mission" and pictures a TNT time bomb=20 >>> ticking with the digits: 1/9-1999, and a CyberMaster case in an=20 >>> >>> It's called 8450 "The Mission" and pictures a TNT time bomb >>> ticking with the digits: 1/9-1999, and a CyberMaster case in an 65c66 >>>=20 >>> 67,68c68,69 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> >>> 70c71 >>>=20 >>> 73c74 >>>=20 >>> 76c77 >>>=20 >>> 79c80 >>=20 >> 88c89 >Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden >Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden 95d95
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lugnet.robotics:3717 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 33c34 "I'm losing it.'' =97 Reported last words of Frank Sinatra "I'm losing it.'' — Reported last words of Frank Sinatra 37d37
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lugnet.robotics:3854 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 62 Lines: 61 19c20 heh, an ora book would be cool=2E=2E heh, an ora book would be cool.. 22,24c23,25 # From: jonathan@oreilly=2Ecom # Sent: jeudi 18 f=E9vrier 1999 14:13 # To: IAMsvore@mindspring=2Ecom; lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # From: jonathan@oreilly.com # Sent: jeudi 18 février 1999 14:13 # To: IAMsvore@mindspring.com; lego-robotics@crynwr.com 34c35 # you through your first half-dozen robots=2E Although # you through your first half-dozen robots. Although 37c38 # is excellent and thorough=2E The Constructopedia # is excellent and thorough. The Constructopedia 39c40 # and "Tips & Tricks" sections=2E # and "Tips & Tricks" sections. 43c44 # Mindstorms yet=2E # Mindstorms yet. 51,52c52,53 # >Technic sets=2E somehow, though, that dosen't make me a robotics # engineer=2E[1] # >Technic sets. somehow, though, that dosen't make me a robotics # engineer.[1] 60c61 # Did you check the web site first?: http://www=2Ecrynwr=2Ecom/lego-robotics # Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics 63,64c64 #=20= # 70,71c70,71 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 81d80
lugnet.robotics:3862 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 don't you mean http://www=2Ebmts=2Ecom/~rhempel don't you mean http://www.bmts.com/~rhempel 23,25c24,26 # From: rhempel@bmts=2Ecom # Sent: jeudi 18 f=E9vrier 1999 15:42 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # From: rhempel@bmts.com # Sent: jeudi 18 février 1999 15:42 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 31c32 # DOH=2E=2E=2E Sorry the link should be # DOH... Sorry the link should be 34c35 <http:/www=2Ebmts=2Ecom/~rhempel> <http:/www.bmts.com/~rhempel> 37c38 The link below works, it is just not clickable=2E=2E=2E The link below works, it is just not clickable... 43,44c44,45 > won't fit=2E > > Have a look at <www=2Ebmts=2Ecom/~rhempel> and follow > won't fit. > > Have a look at <www.bmts.com/~rhempel> and follow 46,47c47,48 > Tackle Box page=2E > > Please let me know what you think=2E=2E=2E > Tackle Box page. > > Please let me know what you think... 49c50 > > Ralph Hempel - P=2EEng > > Ralph Hempel - P.Eng 57c58 Did you check the web site first?: http://www=2Ecrynwr=2Ecom/lego-robotics Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics 66,67c67,68 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 77d77
lugnet.robotics:3884 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 72 Lines: 71 20c21 were on the CD=2E Yes they will go out of date but were on the CD. Yes they will go out of date but 30,32c31,33 # From: jonathan@oreilly=2Ecom # Sent: jeudi 18 f=E9vrier 1999 20:57 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # From: jonathan@oreilly.com # Sent: jeudi 18 février 1999 20:57 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 42c43 # a CDROM packaged with the Mindstorms book=2E # a CDROM packaged with the Mindstorms book. 45c46 # Web pages=2E # Web pages. 50c51 # thing, and it's all available online anyhow=2E I can # thing, and it's all available online anyhow. I can 54c55 # of the book for that reason alone=2E # of the book for that reason alone. 61,62c62,63 # we don't clog up the list=2E I'll summarize the results # if you're interested=2E # we don't clog up the list. I'll summarize the results # if you're interested. 70c71 # Did you check the web site first?: http://www=2Ecrynwr=2Ecom/lego-robotics # Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics 73,74c74 #=20= # 80,81c80,81 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 91d90
lugnet.robotics:3890 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 79 Lines: 70 20,22c21,23 # From: lehman@javanet=2Ecom # Sent: vendredi 19 f=E9vrier 1999 09:44 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # From: lehman@javanet.com # Sent: vendredi 19 février 1999 09:44 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 27c28 # That's an interesting point=2E I wonder what percentage of the # That's an interesting point. I wonder what percentage of the 29c30 # owners out there are net-enabled=2E Certainly, of the ones # owners out there are net-enabled. Certainly, of the ones 34c35 # the book, almost all of those must be net-enabled=2E=2E=2E? # the book, almost all of those must be net-enabled...? 36c37 Take me for example=2E I do the www=2Elinux=2Eie website, got Take me for example. I do the www.linux.ie website, got 39c40 connection=2E connection. 41,43c42,43 large to fit on floppy=2E=2E=2E et al=2E =20= large to fit on floppy... et al. 48,51c48 =20= =20= 52a50 58,59c56 =20= 63,65c60,61 software on the CD=2E afaik=2E =20= software on the CD. afaik. 69c65 =20= 70a67,68 Aging software is better than none. Just my 2 eurocents. 72,77c70 Aging software is better than none=2E Just my 2 eurocents=2E =20= =20= 80,81c73 Ken=20= Ken 87,88c79,80 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 98d89
lugnet.robotics:3928 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 19,21c20,22 # From: christy_wailes@hotmail=2Ecom # Sent: vendredi 19 f=E9vrier 1999 19:03 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # From: christy_wailes@hotmail.com # Sent: vendredi 19 février 1999 19:03 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 30,31c31 Ken=20= Ken 37,38c37,38 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 48d47
lugnet.robotics:3929 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 # From: Benoit=2Ecerrina@writeme=2Ecom # Sent: dimanche 21 f=E9vrier 1999 09:33 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # From: Benoit.cerrina@writeme.com # Sent: dimanche 21 février 1999 09:33 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 26c27 # over countries than the us=2E At least in France, local # over countries than the us. At least in France, local 35c36 I agree absolutely with this=2E=2E=2E I agree absolutely with this... 43,44c44,45 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 54d54
lugnet.robotics:3930 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 mailgate blackholed=2E=2E=2E mailgate blackholed... 29,30c30,31 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 40d40
lugnet.robotics:3938 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 # :> I installed the software on the computer and firmware on the RCX=2E # :> I installed the software on the computer and firmware on the RCX. 25c26 # RCX=2E # RCX. 29c30 # :> Firmware on the RCX=2E However, I do not have the capability # :> Firmware on the RCX. However, I do not have the capability 32c33 # :> again=2E=2E=2E # :> again... 35,36c36,37 The firmware file (called "Firm0309=2Elgo") should be in the 'firm' subdirectory of where the main Lego MS files are=2E The firmware file (called "Firm0309.lgo") should be in the 'firm' subdirectory of where the main Lego MS files are. 44,45c45,46 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 55d55
lugnet.robotics:3957 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 12 Lines: 11 18,25c19,25 Thanks for allowing me on the list. I am learning many things. But why = do people bicker over such trival matters as grammar or spelling. I = would hope the attitude of the group would be less antagonistic but I do = realize that bright people sometimes feel the need to point out any = error, no matter how small. How unfortunate. I can't always tell if the = message contains information or bickering until I've opened and read = them - a big time waster it can be. Having had 'my' say I will cease to = waste your time. Thanks for allowing me on the list. I am learning many things. But why do people bicker over such trival matters as grammar or spelling. I would hope the attitude of the group would be less antagonistic but I do realize that bright people sometimes feel the need to point out any error, no matter how small. How unfortunate. I can't always tell if the message contains information or bickering until I've opened and read them - a big time waster it can be. Having had 'my' say I will cease to waste your time. 30d29
lugnet.robotics:4005 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26c27 (midday to 7 o'clock)=2E (midday to 7 o'clock). 30c31 root@linux=2Eie root@linux.ie 40,41c41,42 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 51d51
lugnet.robotics:4009 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 Thought you might like to know=2E=2E=2E I was chatting with the store manager of the Dawson St=2E Thought you might like to know... I was chatting with the store manager of the Dawson St. 25,26c26,27 expansion kits=2E Nothing official yet, but it should be within the next few weeks or so=2E expansion kits. Nothing official yet, but it should be within the next few weeks or so. 36,37c37,38 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 47d47
lugnet.robotics:4026 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 40c41 where D1...Dn are the message body, and C =3D D1 + D2 + ... Dn. where D1...Dn are the message body, and C = D1 + D2 + ... Dn. 68c69 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden 72d72
lugnet.robotics:4034 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 # From: rhempel@bmts=2Ecom # Sent: vendredi 26 f=E9vrier 1999 03:17 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # From: rhempel@bmts.com # Sent: vendredi 26 février 1999 03:17 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 25c26 # copyright and refer to you on our web site=2E # copyright and refer to you on our web site. 35,36c36,37 Gee=2E There's nothing here, proposed by Claus, about Dave transferring copyright ownership=2E Or am I missing something? Gee. There's nothing here, proposed by Claus, about Dave transferring copyright ownership. Or am I missing something? 38c39 Don't think so=2E Don't think so. 46,47c47,48 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 57d57
lugnet.robotics:4035 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 4:30 today=2E=2E=2E 4:30 today... 33,34c34,35 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 44d44
lugnet.robotics:4037 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 32,33c33,34 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 43d43
lugnet.robotics:4089 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 50 Lines: 48 19c20 # From: hchea@ramapo=2Eedu # From: hchea@ramapo.edu 21c22 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 25c26 # I just signed onto this list=2E I got a mindstorms kit yesterday, but # I just signed onto this list. I got a mindstorms kit yesterday, but 27c28 # box=2E Actually, I bought the box for the raw materials used for a # box. Actually, I bought the box for the raw materials used for a 29c30 # next week=2E As compensation, I get to keep the unused legos (cool)=2E # next week. As compensation, I get to keep the unused legos (cool). 41,42c42 I'd recommendd that you visit http://www=2Eenteract=2Ecom/~dbaum/lego/nqc/=20= and I'd recommendd that you visit http://www.enteract.com/~dbaum/lego/nqc/ and 44,47c44,46 C, but not quite - I doubt that you will have any problems with it=2E The documentation there suggests using either the modem or printer port -=20= it says nothing about IRTalk though=2E C, but not quite - I doubt that you will have any problems with it. The documentation there suggests using either the modem or printer port - it says nothing about IRTalk though. 58,59c57,58 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 69d67
lugnet.robotics:4116 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 this needed sending to the list=2E=2E=2E this needed sending to the list... 22c23 # From: rkippenhan@transactor=2Enet # From: rkippenhan@transactor.net 24c25 # To: Ken Guest; hchea@ramapo=2Eedu # To: Ken Guest; hchea@ramapo.edu 32c33 # I'd have to echo ken's comments=2E Dave Baum's site is pretty # I'd have to echo ken's comments. Dave Baum's site is pretty 34c35 # starting place for RCX/Mac work=2E # starting place for RCX/Mac work. 37,38c38,39 # Nobody has yet been able to use the native IR port on the Mac=2E Palm # Pilots and a couple universal remotes, yes=2E From an earlier post on # Nobody has yet been able to use the native IR port on the Mac. Palm # Pilots and a couple universal remotes, yes. From an earlier post on 43c44 # nightmare=2E # nightmare. 52c53 # signaled by the existence/absence of 1/2400 sec of 38=2E4khz IR bursts=2E # signaled by the existence/absence of 1/2400 sec of 38.4khz IR bursts. 56c57 # be a pulse length limiter built into the PalmIII sending HW=2E # be a pulse length limiter built into the PalmIII sending HW. 62c63 # of the lego bursts as bytes and translating these into bits=2E Meaning # of the lego bursts as bytes and translating these into bits. Meaning 67c68 # bytes out of a series of IrDA data=2E For that, one has to # bytes out of a series of IrDA data. For that, one has to 70c71 # framing (leading byte, trailing byte and CRC checksum)=2E # framing (leading byte, trailing byte and CRC checksum). 77c78 # for you=2E # for you. 82c83 # this=2E # this. 96c97 # >From: kengu@credo=2Eie [SMTP:kengu@credo=2Eie] # >From: kengu@credo.ie [SMTP:kengu@credo.ie] 98c99 # >To: hchea@ramapo=2Eedu; lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # >To: hchea@ramapo.edu; lego-robotics@crynwr.com 101c102 # ># From: hchea@ramapo=2Eedu # ># From: hchea@ramapo.edu 103c104 # ># To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # ># To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 107c108 # ># I just signed onto this list=2E I got a mindstorms kit # ># I just signed onto this list. I got a mindstorms kit 111c112 # ># box=2E Actually, I bought the box for the raw materials used for a # ># box. Actually, I bought the box for the raw materials used for a 114c115 # ># next week=2E As compensation, I get to keep the unused legos (cool)=2E # ># next week. As compensation, I get to keep the unused legos (cool). 129c130 http://www=2Eenteract=2Ecom/~dbaum/lego/nqc/ http://www.enteract.com/~dbaum/lego/nqc/ 132c133 >C, but not quite - I doubt that you will have any problems with it=2E >C, but not quite - I doubt that you will have any problems with it. 135c136 >says nothing about IRTalk though=2E >says nothing about IRTalk though. 147,148c148,149 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 158d158
lugnet.robotics:4124 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 43 Lines: 40 18,19c19 This isn't really a Lego event, but all you roboticists should check it = out! This isn't really a Lego event, but all you roboticists should check it out! 21c21 Calling All Sumo Robots! =20 Calling All Sumo Robots! 24,25c24,25 brings the robotic action to the San Francisco Exploratorium, Tuesday = March 23, 1999. brings the robotic action to the San Francisco Exploratorium, Tuesday March 23, 1999. 27,28c27,28 Two robots go face-to-face in circular arena. The first to push its = opponent out or over wins! Two robots go face-to-face in circular arena. The first to push its opponent out or over wins! 30,31c30 Thousands of dollars in Cash Prizes! ($2000 for 1st) Prizes for 2nd and = 3rd too. Thousands of dollars in Cash Prizes! ($2000 for 1st) Prizes for 2nd and 3rd too. 35,36c34 Plus, FujiSoft is bringing 10 of Japan's top robot competitors to test = the Plus, FujiSoft is bringing 10 of Japan's top robot competitors to test the 39,41c37,39 IMPORTANT NOTE - You must register your machine >>in advance<< to = compete. Plus, you get $100 just for pre-registering and competing with = an eligable entry! IMPORTANT NOTE - You must register your machine >>in advance<< to compete. Plus, you get $100 just for pre-registering and competing with an eligable entry! 61d58
lugnet.robotics:4132 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 they won't be=2E They will still stock the ris set but nothing else=2E they won't be. They will still stock the ris set but nothing else. 24c25 I wish they'd just make up their bloody minds=2E I wish they'd just make up their bloody minds. 32,33c33,34 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 43d43
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lugnet.robotics:4157 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 49 Lines: 48 19c20 # From: kiplingm@javanet=2Ecom # From: kiplingm@javanet.com 21c22 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 38c39 # for constructing robot/car/articulation projects=2E # for constructing robot/car/articulation projects. 42c43 # suggest - OR - the classic DACTA potpourri list would also be cool=2E # suggest - OR - the classic DACTA potpourri list would also be cool. 46,47c47 Addons page a visit, it's at=20= http://www-control=2Eeng=2Ecam=2Eac=2Euk/sc10003/addon=2Ehtml Addons page a visit, it's at http://www-control.eng.cam.ac.uk/sc10003/addon.html 57,58c57,58 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 68d67
lugnet.robotics:4180 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 44c45 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden 48d48
lugnet.robotics:4194 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 49 Lines: 48 21c22 At 12:22 09-03-1999 Tuesday , Fredrik Gl=F6ckner wrote: At 12:22 09-03-1999 Tuesday , Fredrik Glöckner wrote: 28,32c29,33 Since I decided to transfer the real "intelligence" of the bot to the PC,= leaving only basic intelligence in the mobile unit, the problems= finished... but not only after some struggle. It's more difficult than it looks to create a= multi-processor-distributed-intelligence machine :-) Since I decided to transfer the real "intelligence" of the bot to the PC, leaving only basic intelligence in the mobile unit, the problems finished... but not only after some struggle. It's more difficult than it looks to create a multi-processor-distributed-intelligence machine :-) 39,45c40,45 I figure it has a 100ms to 200ms delay between the time you ask the value of= some var to the answer comes up, but I'm not very sure of these values. Better you give some basic intelligence to the unit, like for instants when= it hits a wall to stop the motors in the spot and next wait for new= instructions. If you completely radio control the unit, then it would take= some time for the unit to stop the motors after hitting the wall, and= that's stupid. I figure it has a 100ms to 200ms delay between the time you ask the value of some var to the answer comes up, but I'm not very sure of these values. Better you give some basic intelligence to the unit, like for instants when it hits a wall to stop the motors in the spot and next wait for new instructions. If you completely radio control the unit, then it would take some time for the unit to stop the motors after hitting the wall, and that's stupid. 54,55c54,55 I think the area where you draw a path for the bot to follow is completely= downloaded to the bot. I think the area where you draw a path for the bot to follow is completely downloaded to the bot. 57,60c57,60 Remember, those 420 bytes are opcodes, not assembler instructions. One of= the CyberMaster opcodes, OnWaitDifferent() manages to compress in 4 bytes= something like to set each of the three motors to a different speed and= then wait for some period of time. This is very efficient. :-) Remember, those 420 bytes are opcodes, not assembler instructions. One of the CyberMaster opcodes, OnWaitDifferent() manages to compress in 4 bytes something like to set each of the three motors to a different speed and then wait for some period of time. This is very efficient. :-) 70d69
lugnet.robotics:4245 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 # From: rhempel@bmts=2Ecom # From: rhempel@bmts.com 21c22 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 41,42c42,43 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 52d52
lugnet.robotics:4298 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 37 Lines: 35 24,26c25,26 http://www.legoworldshop.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=3D151= & prrfnbr=3D151&cntry=3DUS http://www.legoworldshop.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=151& prrfnbr=151&cntry=US 30,33c30,32 >With the Remote Control for your RCX=99, you can select programs and= control >your RCX=99s output ports. >Note: This product requires the Robotics Invention System=99 >With the Remote Control for your RCX™, you can select programs and control >your RCX™s output ports. >Note: This product requires the Robotics Invention System™ 45c44 >=20 > 54c53 Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 G=F6teborg, Sweden Snail-mail: Box 620, 40530 Göteborg, Sweden 58d56
lugnet.robotics:4323 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 # From: brok@fcjsvc=2Ehvu=2Enl # From: brok@fcjsvc.hvu.nl 21c22 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 24c25 # Go to http://www=2Elegomindstorms=2Ecom/press/ # Go to http://www.legomindstorms.com/press/ 26,27c27,28 # and THEN click for the full size view of the L-3GO robot=2E # It will reveal a new type of crown gear=2E # and THEN click for the full size view of the L-3GO robot. # It will reveal a new type of crown gear. 30c31 full size view - as I can't find mention of the L-3GO robot=2E=2E? full size view - as I can't find mention of the L-3GO robot..? 38,39c39,40 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 49d49
lugnet.robotics:4381 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 > And THAT price can't be beat for getting another power connector=20 > And THAT price can't be beat for getting another power connector 33d33
lugnet.robotics:4425 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 82 Lines: 75 19c20 # From: antony@wellic=2Eremove=2Ethis=2Edemo # From: antony@wellic.remove.this.demo 21c22 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 25c26 # at full power=2E I've have just purchased a ZNAP kit with motor, because # at full power. I've have just purchased a ZNAP kit with motor, because 27c28 # (sorry can't remember the kit number)=2E In this kit I can get # (sorry can't remember the kit number). In this kit I can get 31c32 # some other standard connectors all for 13 UK pounds=2E This is much # some other standard connectors all for 13 UK pounds. This is much 33c34 # include VAT and p&p=2E # include VAT and p&p. 37c38 # motors, except that it has '- 002' after it=2E Are these the same part? # motors, except that it has '- 002' after it. Are these the same part? 39c40 # think this is just due to not being run in yet=2E # think this is just due to not being run in yet. 41c42 It probably is=2E If it looks non rectangular, has the connection It probably is. If it looks non rectangular, has the connection 44c45 identical to the Mindstorms motors - then it most likely is=2E identical to the Mindstorms motors - then it most likely is. 46,53c47,52 mould was used=2E I'm not sure if Dave Baum's review on lego motors includes rpm=20= information, you might want to check (it's linked to from=20= http://www=2Ecrynwr=2Ecom/lego-robotics)=2E I seem to recall someone on the Mindstorms webring publishing rpm=20= information on his site - unfortunately though I can't remember which or where=2E mould was used. I'm not sure if Dave Baum's review on lego motors includes rpm information, you might want to check (it's linked to from http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics). I seem to recall someone on the Mindstorms webring publishing rpm information on his site - unfortunately though I can't remember which or where. 55,60c54,57 webring=20= (http://members=2Etripod=2Ecom/~ssncommunity/webrings/legoms_index=2Ehtml) and see if you can track it down=2E Please let me know if you find it - I think I might want to link to it=20= from my own site=2E webring (http://members.tripod.com/~ssncommunity/webrings/legoms_index.html) and see if you can track it down. Please let me know if you find it - I think I might want to link to it from my own site. 62,63c59,60 # I'm just getting back into Lego (age 24) after buy the Mindstorm kit=2E # Any info is gratefully received=2E Thanks, # I'm just getting back into Lego (age 24) after buy the Mindstorm kit. # Any info is gratefully received. Thanks, 66,75c63,69 You might want to read over Stuart Crawshaw's article/recommendations on=20= which sets to get next=2E It is at=20= http://www-control=2Eeng=2Ecam=2Eac=2Euk/sc10003/addon=2Ehtml=2E Oh=2E And I have a few things linked to from my own site, which is at=20= http://skyscraper=2Efortunecity=2Ecom/amd/575/mindstorms=2Ehtml=2E (The=20= mindstorms section is just a collection of links at the moment - this will change=2E Oh yes=2E) You might want to read over Stuart Crawshaw's article/recommendations on which sets to get next. It is at http://www-control.eng.cam.ac.uk/sc10003/addon.html. Oh. And I have a few things linked to from my own site, which is at http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/amd/575/mindstorms.html. (The mindstorms section is just a collection of links at the moment - this will change. Oh yes.) 90,91c84,85 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 101d94
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lugnet.robotics:4470 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 77 Lines: 76 20c21 It's rather irritating=2E It's rather irritating. 23c24 # From: Robot2n@aol=2Ecom # From: Robot2n@aol.com 25c26 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 36c37 # legged robots=2E Non worked=2E Then on receiving the 'RIS' for # legged robots. Non worked. Then on receiving the 'RIS' for 39,40c40,41 # HREF=3D"http://home=2Econcepts=2Enl/%7Ebvandam">http://home=2Econcepts # =2Enl/%7Ebvand # HREF="http://home.concepts.nl/%7Ebvandam">http://home.concepts # .nl/%7Ebvand 43,44c44,45 # Wonderful=2E No=2E The # robot walked strangely and couldn't carry my RCX=2E So I # Wonderful. No. The # robot walked strangely and couldn't carry my RCX. So I 49c50 # middle section and carry the RCX, back to work=2E=2E=2E After # middle section and carry the RCX, back to work... After 53c54 # I had a robot that would carry anything=2E=2E=2E Boriz-2=2E See # I had a robot that would carry anything... Boriz-2. See 55c56 # see my design=2E I know you cant see it very well but full # see my design. I know you cant see it very well but full 61,62c62,63 # HREF=3D"http://www=2Egeocities=2Ecom/Colosseum/3479/leocad=2Ehtm">http # ://www=2Egeoci # HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/3479/leocad.htm">http # ://www.geoci 66c67 # =2Ecom/Colosseum/3479/leocad=2Ehtm # .com/Colosseum/3479/leocad.htm 71c72 # Robot2n@yahoo=2Ecom, the instructions aren't finished yet but # Robot2n@yahoo.com, the instructions aren't finished yet but 73,75c74,76 # to anyone who e-mails me=2E Any comments are appreciated=2E # Nathan Barguss, 14=2E -- # Did you check the web site first?: http://www=2Ecrynwr=2Ecom/lego-robotics # to anyone who e-mails me. Any comments are appreciated. # Nathan Barguss, 14. -- # Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics 78,79c79 #=20= # 85,86c85,86 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 96d95
lugnet.robotics:4483 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 # From: kin=2Elau@ic=2Eac=2Euk # From: kin.lau@ic.ac.uk 21,22c22,23 # To: rswitzer@home=2Ecom # Cc: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: rswitzer@home.com # Cc: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 30c31 # http://www=2Elegoworldshop=2Ecom =2E They ship internationally and in less # http://www.legoworldshop.com . They ship internationally and in less 36c37 along with the remote control=2E along with the remote control. 45,46c46,47 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 56d56
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lugnet.robotics:4535 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 # From: sc10003@eng=2Ecam=2Eac=2Euk # From: sc10003@eng.cam.ac.uk 21c22 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 29c30 It's a white 24t gear, slightly thicker than the others=2E It's a white 24t gear, slightly thicker than the others. 31c32 not rotating the axle will also rotate the gear=2E not rotating the axle will also rotate the gear. 33c34 http://www=2Elugnet=2Ecom/pause/search/?query=3D8735 to see it=2E http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=8735 to see it. 41,42c42,43 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 52d52
lugnet.robotics:4549 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 34 Lines: 33 19c20 # From: lmartins@marktest=2Ept # From: lmartins@marktest.pt 21,22c22,23 # To: antony@wellic=2Eremove=2Ethis=2Edemo # Cc: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: antony@wellic.remove.this.demo # Cc: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 30c31 # The VB code should be similar (?)=2E # The VB code should be similar (?). 33,35c34 Zane Thomas's msghook control=2E=2E=2E http://www=2Elinux=2Eie/linux-ie-people=2Ehtml#KenGuest=20= Zane Thomas's msghook control... 36a36 http://www.linux.ie/linux-ie-people.html#KenGuest 42,43c42,43 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 53d52
lugnet.robotics:4568 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 40 Lines: 38 19c20 # From: tja@cpu=2Ecom # From: tja@cpu.com 21c22 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 33c34 # appreciated=2E # appreciated. 35,37c36,37 http://www=2Egeocities=2Ecom/SoHo/Lofts/8350/legofaq=2Ehtml might have some=20= info that could help=2E Apparantly the bricks are molded out of ABS http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/8350/legofaq.html might have some info that could help. Apparantly the bricks are molded out of ABS 39,41c39 information that you need=2E http://www=2Elinux=2Eie/linux-ie-people=2Ehtml#KenGuest=20= information that you need. 42a41 http://www.linux.ie/linux-ie-people.html#KenGuest 48,49c47,48 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 59d57
lugnet.robotics:4584 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 76 Lines: 75 22c23 beam pushes in the sensor=2E Add to this a 4# axle beam pushes in the sensor. Add to this a 4# axle 24c25 half bushings=2E Then get 2 pieces of corrugated half bushings. Then get 2 pieces of corrugated 26c27 4# axle=2E Then get 2 suspension rods, 2 3# pins and 4# axle. Then get 2 suspension rods, 2 3# pins and 28c29 of the corrugated tubing=2E of the corrugated tubing. 31c32 to putting them up on my site=2E to putting them up on my site. 34c35 http://www=2Elinux=2Eie/linux-ie-people=2Ehtml#KenGuest http://www.linux.ie/linux-ie-people.html#KenGuest 37c38 # From: dlc@verinet=2Ecom # From: dlc@verinet.com 39c40 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 45c46 # In lugnet=2Erobotics, Jeff Blaine writes: # In lugnet.robotics, Jeff Blaine writes: 52c53 # >with bumpers and such=2E Did anything ever come of this? My # >with bumpers and such. Did anything ever come of this? My 56c57 # >as all of those people who spoke about it then=2E I've been examining # >as all of those people who spoke about it then. I've been examining 59c60 # >reverse engineer from pictures=2E (Simen's IR rover thingy # >reverse engineer from pictures. (Simen's IR rover thingy 62,63c63,64 # dealies=2E=2E=2Esorry, # >I forget the name=2E=2E=2E Dan something?) # dealies...sorry, # >I forget the name... Dan something?) 66c67 # I know what you mean=2E I am constantly looking for a way to build a # I know what you mean. I am constantly looking for a way to build a 70c71 # haven't completely succeeded=2E Still searching=2E Perhaps I # haven't completely succeeded. Still searching. Perhaps I 72c73 # at bugs to see how they do it=2E=2E=2E # at bugs to see how they do it... 74c75 # Did you check the web site first?: http://www=2Ecrynwr=2Ecom/lego-robotics # Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics 77,78c78 #=20= # 84,85c84,85 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 95d94
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lugnet.robotics:4647 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 58 Lines: 57 20c21 sworn by nqc=2E it's at http://www=2Eenteract=2Ecom/~dbaum/lego/nqc sworn by nqc. it's at http://www.enteract.com/~dbaum/lego/nqc 23c24 http://www=2Elinux=2Eie/linux-ie-people=2Ehtml#KenGuest http://www.linux.ie/linux-ie-people.html#KenGuest 26c27 # From: william_sleep@hotmail=2Ecom # From: william_sleep@hotmail.com 28c29 # To: lego-robotics@crynwr=2Ecom # To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 45c46 # tedious for me=2E # tedious for me. 48c49 # i have heard about LegOS, mindcontrol=2E=2E=2Eetc, which one is the best??? # i have heard about LegOS, mindcontrol...etc, which one is the best??? 56c57 # Did you check the web site first?: http://www=2Ecrynwr=2Ecom/lego-robotics # Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics 59,60c60 #=20= # 66,67c66,67 Internet Address: kengu@credo=2Eie Home Page: http://www=2Ecredo=2Eie Internet Address: kengu@credo.ie Home Page: http://www.credo.ie 77d76
lugnet.robotics:4962 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 72 Lines: 70 21,22c22 Laurentino was so kind as to give me the definitions of the terms I mention= ed. Laurentino was so kind as to give me the definitions of the terms I mentioned. 24,25c24,25 Is it generally agreed that an intelligent newby can ask for definitions of= technical terms, as the Is it generally agreed that an intelligent newby can ask for definitions of technical terms, as the 28,29c28,29 If so, I'll try to keep it intelligent and focus on the key words and conce= pts, just enough that I (and If so, I'll try to keep it intelligent and focus on the key words and concepts, just enough that I (and 32,33c32,33 And I'll put something in the subject header, so those not interested in th= e educational process can And I'll put something in the subject header, so those not interested in the educational process can 36,39c36,38 This process has built-in limiting mechanisms, by the way. In particular, i= f it gets too much for all y'all, y'all will all stop replying. Agreed? = This process has built-in limiting mechanisms, by the way. In particular, if it gets too much for all y'all, y'all will all stop replying. Agreed? 43c42 Coil=EDn =D3hAiseadha. Coilín ÓhAiseadha. 52,55c51,54 > > Hope I can jump in here and ask where a newby who knows he's in the dee= p end in computer science > > discussions, - knows he's taking in water, coughing and spluttering bu= t loving every minute of it - > > Hope I can jump in here and ask where a newby who knows he's in the deep end > > in computer science > > discussions, - knows he's taking in water, coughing and spluttering but > > loving every minute of it - 58,59c57,58 > > How do you define function-local variables / recursion / global varia= bles / > > How do you define function-local variables / recursion / global variables > > / 62,63c61,62 > > I know this is basic stuff for some and could take up vast yards of ban= dwidth but I need to find > > I know this is basic stuff for some and could take up vast yards of > > bandwidth but I need to find 91d89
lugnet.robotics:4963 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 155 Lines: 117 21,22c22,23 Great answers. Thanks for your help. In cooperation, I think we can compile= an awesome Great answers. Thanks for your help. In cooperation, I think we can compile an awesome 25,28c26,29 The robots are coming! I'm very excited by the future of robotics in the wa= ke of developments including the RCX. I get the impression a whole new generation of hacking h= as arrived. The robots are coming! I'm very excited by the future of robotics in the wake of developments including the RCX. I get the impression a whole new generation of hacking has arrived. 31c32 Coil=EDn. (pronounced Ko-LIIN) Coilín. (pronounced Ko-LIIN) 37,52c38,46 > Valid questions, all of them. We do tend to remain in the upper ranks of= CS on > this list. I'll see if I can take a stab at defining some terms quickly = and > clearly. BTW, I wouldn't mind adding my knowledge of CS to a FAQ for new= bies. > Mindstorms will tend to attract people with no programming background, a= nd > this would be a great place for them to come as a reference source just t= o get > acquainted with the whole programming experience. The "help" from LEGO m= ight > be nice for kids, but even they will want something more than "think like= a > computer" to debug your program. How can they think like a computer when= they > Valid questions, all of them. We do tend to remain in the upper ranks of CS > on > this list. I'll see if I can take a stab at defining some terms quickly and > clearly. BTW, I wouldn't mind adding my knowledge of CS to a FAQ for newbies. > Mindstorms will tend to attract people with no programming background, and > this would be a great place for them to come as a reference source just to get > acquainted with the whole programming experience. The "help" from LEGO might > be nice for kids, but even they will want something more than "think like a > computer" to debug your program. How can they think like a computer when they 56,57c50 > classes/functions/modules that can (ostensibly) be reused in other progra= ms. > classes/functions/modules that can (ostensibly) be reused in other programs. 60,61c53 > function-local variables - (I haven't heard this term exactly before, but= I'm > function-local variables - (I haven't heard this term exactly before, but I'm 63,68c55,59 > limited scope. In other words, the variable only exists and can be acces= sed by > a small segment of the program, usually a function/method. Local variabl= es are > useful for storing temporary information that the rest of the program doe= sn't > limited scope. In other words, the variable only exists and can be accessed > by > a small segment of the program, usually a function/method. Local variables > are > useful for storing temporary information that the rest of the program doesn't 71,80c62,66 > recursion - the process of one function calling itself to solve a problem= =2E > This is done by breaking the problem down to its smallest size, then comb= ining > the smaller solutions. Factorials are usually used as a simple example o= f > recursion. 6! =3D 6*5*4*3*2*1. One can repeatedly break the factorial d= own > until you reach 1, then recombine the problem to find the final solution.= > recursion - the process of one function calling itself to solve a problem. > This is done by breaking the problem down to its smallest size, then combining > the smaller solutions. Factorials are usually used as a simple example of > recursion. 6! = 6*5*4*3*2*1. One can repeatedly break the factorial down > until you reach 1, then recombine the problem to find the final solution. 82,85c68,69 > global variables - sort of the opposite of local variables. These variab= les > are visible to pretty much the entire program and can be read/written fro= m > global variables - sort of the opposite of local variables. These variables > are visible to pretty much the entire program and can be read/written from 88,93c72,74 > dynamic memory allocation - Deciding at run-time how much memory is neede= d for > a given thing (thing being an object, an array, etc). Normal variables a= re > allocated statically. An int might always take up 32 bits of space. Obj= ects > dynamic memory allocation - Deciding at run-time how much memory is needed for > a given thing (thing being an object, an array, etc). Normal variables are > allocated statically. An int might always take up 32 bits of space. Objects 96,105c77,82 > dynamic string allocation - Not many languages really support this. Usua= lly, > strings get a certain amount of space, ie, C++ has you create a character= array > of a given size, and that's how big the string can be. Java simulates dy= namic > string allocation by creating entirely new String objects each time the s= tring > is changed. I think APL is the only language I know of that has true dyn= amic > dynamic string allocation - Not many languages really support this. Usually, > strings get a certain amount of space, ie, C++ has you create a character > array > of a given size, and that's how big the string can be. Java simulates dynamic > string allocation by creating entirely new String objects each time the string > is changed. I think APL is the only language I know of that has true dynamic 108,109c85 > object oriented programming (OOP, or just OO) - a programming paradigm, a= s > object oriented programming (OOP, or just OO) - a programming paradigm, as 111,112c87 > programming. In OO, everything is an object. Objects have variables and= > programming. In OO, everything is an object. Objects have variables and 114,119c89,93 > together, have them talk to one another. Going much beyond this would re= quire > much more space than I'm willing to devote. Java is a mostly OO language= =2E C++ > is a hybrid of OO and iterative and is based on C, which is iterative. L= ISP is > together, have them talk to one another. Going much beyond this would require > much more space than I'm willing to devote. Java is a mostly OO language. > C++ > is a hybrid of OO and iterative and is based on C, which is iterative. LISP > is 121,122c95 > language. There's another term for iterative, but it escapes me right no= w. > language. There's another term for iterative, but it escapes me right now. 127,128c100 > >Hope I can jump in here and ask where a newby who knows he's in the deep= end > >Hope I can jump in here and ask where a newby who knows he's in the deep end 130,131c102 > >discussions, - knows he's taking in water, coughing and spluttering but= > >discussions, - knows he's taking in water, coughing and spluttering but 135,136c106 > >How do you define function-local variables / recursion / global variab= les / > >How do you define function-local variables / recursion / global variables / 139,140c109 > >I know this is basic stuff for some and could take up vast yards of band= width > >I know this is basic stuff for some and could take up vast yards of bandwidth 144,145c113 > >Some teenagers might have got the MindStorms RIS to learn robotics, but = I got > >Some teenagers might have got the MindStorms RIS to learn robotics, but I got 147,148c115 > >programming while having a blast. OK, I'm a doctor, so I'm used to tackl= ing > >programming while having a blast. OK, I'm a doctor, so I'm used to tackling 150,151c117 > >definitions and description, but I bet there are others out there who ca= me > >definitions and description, but I bet there are others out there who came 153,154c119 > >I bet we could, in one group or the other, steadily build up a FAQ full = of > >I bet we could, in one group or the other, steadily build up a FAQ full of 156,157c121 > >would-be hackers. Or pointers to sources of reference, preferably on the= net. > >would-be hackers. Or pointers to sources of reference, preferably on the net. 160,161c124 > >Please pardon me if I've overlooked an existing source for this kind of = newby > >Please pardon me if I've overlooked an existing source for this kind of newby 174d136
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lugnet.robotics:5089 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 66 Lines: 60 21c22 If you did have a digital camera, would you mount it on a 'bot to create a = If you did have a digital camera, would you mount it on a 'bot to create a 24,25c25,26 And if Wes did have such a webcam, what kind of programming would it take t= o give me the ability to And if Wes did have such a webcam, what kind of programming would it take to give me the ability to 29c30 Coil=EDn. Coilín. 42,43c43 > > > > throw. This is simpler than the independent wheels since it doesn'= t > > > > throw. This is simpler than the independent wheels since it doesn't 49,52c49,50 > > > Surely the only reason there's usually complication is that the assem= bly > > > needs to be able to rotate any amount in either direction. If 0-90 de= grees > > > Surely the only reason there's usually complication is that the assembly > > > needs to be able to rotate any amount in either direction. If 0-90 degrees 61,62c59 > > > That's a bit of an understatement - and I'd love to hear how many oth= er > > > That's a bit of an understatement - and I'd love to hear how many other 66,69c63,65 > > I have a fully functional version that doesn't use either - or any spec= ial > > parts. I wish I had a digital camera to take some decent pictures. I = have one > > I have a fully functional version that doesn't use either - or any special > > parts. I wish I had a digital camera to take some decent pictures. I have > > one 72,73c68 > Here it is as promised: http://www.mnsinc.com/wesmat/lego/MindStorms.htm= l > Here it is as promised: http://www.mnsinc.com/wesmat/lego/MindStorms.html 75,76c70,71 > I finally got around to creating a Mindstorms site. Now if I can just wor= k out the > I finally got around to creating a Mindstorms site. Now if I can just work out > the 85d79
lugnet.robotics:5114 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 101 Lines: 75 20c21 Sorry I don't have any pictures of a jigger. = Sorry I don't have any pictures of a jigger. 21a23,52 Basically, what I'm talking about is a crow's-foot lever mounted on a ski. But not everybody knows what a crow's foot lever is... Picture a broad ski with a slot down the middle, running most of the length of the ski. Now, a short distance in front of the front end of this slot, a lever is attached by a hinge or pivot, in such a way that it can swing through a vertical plane on the ski's long axis. It is spring-loaded, so that it stands at rest nearly upright on the ski, leaning back a bit over the slot. Pulling back on the top end draws the lever backwards and downwards to a more acute angle over the slot. About one-third from the top of this standing lever, another lever is attached by a hinge or pivot, so it can also swing in the same vertical plane. At rest, it hangs down almost vertical, so that the lower end rests on the ground beneath the slot. Now, if you pull back on the top of the standing lever, the hanging lever is pushed against the ground and the front end of the ski is lifted up off the ground and forwards. When the lever is released, the back end of the ski keeps it from sliding backwards, so it falls down and forwards, while the hanging lever is dragged forwards in the slot. This action can be repeated to make the jigger travel forward. indefinitely, a bit like a skier using poles or a kid on a scooter. 23,72c54,55 Basically, what I'm talking about is a crow's-foot lever mounted on a ski. = But not everybody knows = what a crow's foot lever is... = Picture a broad ski with a slot down the middle, running most of the length= of the ski. = Now, a short distance in front of the front end of this slot, a lever is at= tached by a hinge or pivot, in = such a way that it can swing through a vertical plane on the ski's long axi= s. It is spring-loaded, so = that it stands at rest nearly upright on the ski, leaning back a bit over t= he slot. Pulling back on the = top end draws the lever backwards and downwards to a more acute angle over = the slot. = About one-third from the top of this standing lever, another lever is attac= hed by a hinge or pivot, so = it can also swing in the same vertical plane. At rest, it hangs down almost= vertical, so that the lower = end rests on the ground beneath the slot. = Now, if you pull back on the top of the standing lever, the hanging lever i= s pushed against the = ground and the front end of the ski is lifted up off the ground and forward= s. When the lever is = released, the back end of the ski keeps it from sliding backwards, so it fa= lls down and forwards, while = the hanging lever is dragged forwards in the slot. = This action can be repeated to make the jigger travel forward. indefinitel= y, a bit like a skier using = poles or a kid on a scooter. = Here's a rough ascii-drawing, as the construction would look, seen from the= side: = Here's a rough ascii-drawing, as the construction would look, seen from the side: 80,84c63 <- = I mention it as a possible alternative to wheels or tracks, so 'bots can ma= ke their way on rough = <- 86,90c65,67 terrains. = I'd love to hear comments. Anybody experimented with alternative travel mec= hanisms? = I mention it as a possible alternative to wheels or tracks, so 'bots can make their way on rough terrains. 91a69,70 I'd love to hear comments. Anybody experimented with alternative travel mechanisms? 94,95c73 Coil=EDn. = Coilín. 100,101c78 > = > 109,110c86 > = > 113,114c89 > = > 121d95
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lugnet.robotics:5133 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 On Fri, 21 May 1999, Fredrik Gl=F6ckner wrote: On Fri, 21 May 1999, Fredrik Glöckner wrote: 29c30 =09http://www.pobox.com/~benw/lego/car/instr/ http://www.pobox.com/~benw/lego/car/instr/ 44d44
lugnet.robotics:5137 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 On Sat, 22 May 1999, Fredrik Gl=F6ckner wrote: On Sat, 22 May 1999, Fredrik Glöckner wrote: 35c36 Uh-oh.. it's the weekend and I haven't thought of anything to build yet!=20 Uh-oh.. it's the weekend and I haven't thought of anything to build yet! 47d47
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lugnet.robotics:5218 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26,27c27,28 You'll need Adobe's Acrobat reader to view this document, but it's = absolutely the best place to start. You'll need Adobe's Acrobat reader to view this document, but it's absolutely the best place to start. 43c44 Ricardo Turenko Be=C1a Ricardo Turenko BeÁa 64c65 > Ricardo Turenko Be=E7a > Ricardo Turenko Beça 75d75
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lugnet.robotics:6773 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 82 Lines: 63 19,20c20 Ok, we can't use Constructopedia (TM) so why not Constructionary! = Anyone Ok, we can't use Constructopedia (TM) so why not Constructionary! Anyone 34,39c34,36 > I have added a few pages to it, documenting (and linking to) = assemblies > that that others have posted. It wouldn't take much to re-organize it = as a > Constructopedia. Since a WikiWeb is openly collaborative, it would be = nice > I have added a few pages to it, documenting (and linking to) assemblies > that that others have posted. It wouldn't take much to re-organize it as a > Constructopedia. Since a WikiWeb is openly collaborative, it would be nice 41,42c38 > if someone (who is aware of Wiki architecture and style) would create = a > if someone (who is aware of Wiki architecture and style) would create a 54,57c50,51 "Constructopedia" in a context such as this. I don't want to see you = or Andy or anyone else here get into trouble for accidentally misusing = someone "Constructopedia" in a context such as this. I don't want to see you or Andy or anyone else here get into trouble for accidentally misusing someone 60,63c54,55 Note that the term CONSTRUCTOPEDIA=AE is owned by the LEGO Group and = may or may not also be licensed or co-owned by the MIT Media Lab (where the = name Note that the term CONSTRUCTOPEDIA® is owned by the LEGO Group and may or may not also be licensed or co-owned by the MIT Media Lab (where the name 66,67c58 On March 18, 1997, the LEGO Group applied for a registered trademark on = the On March 18, 1997, the LEGO Group applied for a registered trademark on the 71,76c62,64 On March 12, 1997, the LEGO Group registered the domain = CONSTRUCTOPEDIA.COM, and, as well all know, has been using the word "Constructopedia" = judiciously on the www.legomindstorms.com website and in printed materials = accompanying On March 12, 1997, the LEGO Group registered the domain CONSTRUCTOPEDIA.COM, and, as well all know, has been using the word "Constructopedia" judiciously on the www.legomindstorms.com website and in printed materials accompanying 79,82c67,68 So in other words, CONSTRUCTOPEDIA=AE is, unfortunately, a privately = owned name and therefore probably shouldn't be used as if it were a generic = term. So in other words, CONSTRUCTOPEDIA® is, unfortunately, a privately owned name and therefore probably shouldn't be used as if it were a generic term. 87,94c73,76 [Disclaimers: I am not a laywer, I do not represent the LEGO Group or = the MIT Media Lab, and I am not involved with the Constructopedia project. = The above is information obtained publicly via InterNIC and USPTO searches = that I do periodically as part of my admin and information management duties = at [Disclaimers: I am not a laywer, I do not represent the LEGO Group or the MIT Media Lab, and I am not involved with the Constructopedia project. The above is information obtained publicly via InterNIC and USPTO searches that I do periodically as part of my admin and information management duties at 101d82
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lugnet.robotics:6835 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 41 Lines: 37 21c22 "Spruce Up That R=E9sum=E9 "Spruce Up That Résumé 23,28c24,26 embedded system, a phrase that is bound to sound good on your = r=E9sum=E9. Cross-compiling means that you are writing programs one one computer = (your PC) that will run on another computer (the RCX). An embedded system is = a ... embedded system, a phrase that is bound to sound good on your résumé. Cross-compiling means that you are writing programs one one computer (your PC) that will run on another computer (the RCX). An embedded system is a ... 32,33c30 A lot of cool stuff in the chapter though. Should stimulate the = imagination A lot of cool stuff in the chapter though. Should stimulate the imagination 36,37c33,34 Settle on a title yet?=20 ---=20 Settle on a title yet? --- 60d56
lugnet.robotics:6871 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 46 Lines: 43 20,56c21,54 I think you will find that the optics on the front of the light sensor = brick are too wide angle to do much in the way of beacon detection. You = would probably need to put at least a field lens in front of the brick, = and perhaps some tubular shielding to improve the discrimination of the = sensor. I also remember from the postings that the sensor is more = sensitive to the IR end of the spectrum, which might lead you to = different light sources. Laser pointers are cheap, but would be too = finely collimated to find, IR diodes are also cheap, and could be = battery powered to spread around the room or on top of 'bots. I am working on a navigational concept right now that uses the "beacon" = idea, but I haven't gotten it far enough along to put up pictures (and = spend even more money on technic parts). I am using a CdS cell, which = varies resistance with light intensity. I have put the sensor at the = focal point of a parabolic mirror (solar cigarette lighter from an old, = old, robot kit). The mirror seems to improve the discrimination of the = sensor, bright objects are still bright, and darker objects, walls, = ceiling, etc are "darker". I have put the mirror on a two axis mount, = one rotating from horizontal to straight up, and the other for panning = side to side. Note: This second axis also controls the front wheel for = steering, so the 'bot is steering toward where ever the mirror is = pointing. Both axes are significantly geared down, and have rotational = sensors. I haven't calibrated it yet, but my guess is I have resolution = of about a degree, which should be fine for getting around the office. My idea is to put the IR transceiver from the computer at the base of = the "brightest star in the sky", so that when the "bot finds it, (with = the rcx brick mounted facing forward) it can also tell me where its = been, and what its been doing. I think I can also use the CdS for = taking pictures, using the same scan routine, but logging to the data = log instead of looking for a sensor value from a light. With two lights of different intensities (and therefore known resistive = values) I think I will be able to do "Celestial Navigation". The lack = of trig functions is a pain, I am going to try using a bunch of = constants ( for tan(angle) 0 to 90 ) to be able to figure out where I = am. I think you will find that the optics on the front of the light sensor brick are too wide angle to do much in the way of beacon detection. You would probably need to put at least a field lens in front of the brick, and perhaps some tubular shielding to improve the discrimination of the sensor. I also remember from the postings that the sensor is more sensitive to the IR end of the spectrum, which might lead you to different light sources. Laser pointers are cheap, but would be too finely collimated to find, IR diodes are also cheap, and could be battery powered to spread around the room or on top of 'bots. I am working on a navigational concept right now that uses the "beacon" idea, but I haven't gotten it far enough along to put up pictures (and spend even more money on technic parts). I am using a CdS cell, which varies resistance with light intensity. I have put the sensor at the focal point of a parabolic mirror (solar cigarette lighter from an old, old, robot kit). The mirror seems to improve the discrimination of the sensor, bright objects are still bright, and darker objects, walls, ceiling, etc are "darker". I have put the mirror on a two axis mount, one rotating from horizontal to straight up, and the other for panning side to side. Note: This second axis also controls the front wheel for steering, so the 'bot is steering toward where ever the mirror is pointing. Both axes are significantly geared down, and have rotational sensors. I haven't calibrated it yet, but my guess is I have resolution of about a degree, which should be fine for getting around the office. My idea is to put the IR transceiver from the computer at the base of the "brightest star in the sky", so that when the "bot finds it, (with the rcx brick mounted facing forward) it can also tell me where its been, and what its been doing. I think I can also use the CdS for taking pictures, using the same scan routine, but logging to the data log instead of looking for a sensor value from a light. With two lights of different intensities (and therefore known resistive values) I think I will be able to do "Celestial Navigation". The lack of trig functions is a pain, I am going to try using a bunch of constants ( for tan(angle) 0 to 90 ) to be able to figure out where I am. 58,59c56,57 A rather long reply, my first post. I have had this rcx kit for ten = days now, and I am absolutely hopelessly hooked. A rather long reply, my first post. I have had this rcx kit for ten days now, and I am absolutely hopelessly hooked. 64d61
lugnet.robotics:6934 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,20c19,21 When looking at the raw values on the rcx display, ambient light reads = about 528, pointed at the fluorescent 510, pointed at the scouts led = 390. The sensor is more sensitive toward the IR end of the spectrum. When looking at the raw values on the rcx display, ambient light reads about 528, pointed at the fluorescent 510, pointed at the scouts led 390. The sensor is more sensitive toward the IR end of the spectrum. 40,41d40
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lugnet.robotics:7121 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 69c70 becoming more and more apparent.=20 becoming more and more apparent. 78c79 have genuine complaints about the set themes we do collect.=20 have genuine complaints about the set themes we do collect. 125c126 numbers of AFOL since Mindstorms and Star Wars sets being released?=20 numbers of AFOL since Mindstorms and Star Wars sets being released? 244d244
lugnet.robotics:7127 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 87 Lines: 85 19,22c20,21 >I have been heavily into the Technic stuff, but there isn't much coming = out >in that venue lately so I'm looking at two of my other old time = favorites, >I have been heavily into the Technic stuff, but there isn't much coming out >in that venue lately so I'm looking at two of my other old time favorites, 29c28 =46orgive the following if you already own one... Personally, I'll be Forgive the following if you already own one... Personally, I'll be 83c82 =20 106d104
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lugnet.robotics:7293 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 51 Lines: 40 21,22c22 He talks about using the Radio Shack emitter/detectors to do some 180 = deg He talks about using the Radio Shack emitter/detectors to do some 180 deg 24,29c24,26 proximity detectors. (much like using the RCX/Light sensor for = proximity detection) He's also suggesting connecting them (I forget the actual = term) in sort of a ladder array, so that a sensor on one side will return a = high proximity detectors. (much like using the RCX/Light sensor for proximity detection) He's also suggesting connecting them (I forget the actual term) in sort of a ladder array, so that a sensor on one side will return a high 33,46c30,37 The problem is that the sensors already return a range of values, so = there would be no way to actually tell the location. =20 For example: if you set it up so the detector would return a high value = on the right side, and a low value on the left side, you would not be able = to tell if something was very close to the right side, or far away from = the left side. You could only tell there was something... somewhere. (I = may have messed up the high/low-close/far values, but it doesn't really = matter) The problem is that the sensors already return a range of values, so there would be no way to actually tell the location. For example: if you set it up so the detector would return a high value on the right side, and a low value on the left side, you would not be able to tell if something was very close to the right side, or far away from the left side. You could only tell there was something... somewhere. (I may have messed up the high/low-close/far values, but it doesn't really matter) 51,52c42 It does, however, provide me with some other ideas. It's always nice = to It does, however, provide me with some other ideas. It's always nice to 55c45 </steve>=20 </steve> 61c51 Subject: Re: 180=B0 IR Eyeball Subject: Re: 180° IR Eyeball 70,71d59
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lugnet.robotics:7413 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,25c22,26 I was wondering if anybody has investigated attaching more powerful = motors to the RCX. Can anybody tell me (before I bother finding out myself) how to rig up a = more powerful motor by getting the RCX output to control some sort of = amplifier that controls a bigger motor? I was wondering if anybody has investigated attaching more powerful motors to the RCX. Can anybody tell me (before I bother finding out myself) how to rig up a more powerful motor by getting the RCX output to control some sort of amplifier that controls a bigger motor? 27,28c28,29 Also, just as side note, does anybody know what kind of plastic they use = to make lego? And is it safe? Also, just as side note, does anybody know what kind of plastic they use to make lego? And is it safe? 30,31c31,32 thanx to you all - when I found this mailing list, I was releived to = find that I wasn't the only adult buying, and getting really into lego. thanx to you all - when I found this mailing list, I was releived to find that I wasn't the only adult buying, and getting really into lego.
lugnet.robotics:7423 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 56 Lines: 53 20,29c21,28 You need to be careful if you use more powerfull motors with lego = construction. The plastic parts are very strong but you can easyly = break teeth off of the gears or twist the rods with the current motors = and a little bit of gearing. On the other hand if you are going to build something out of other = materials, you need to realize that the signal comming out of the RCX = motor port is PWM (pulse width modulated) the speed of the motor is = controled by the frequency of pulses sent to the motor. It may be = possible to amplify the signal. You need to be careful if you use more powerfull motors with lego construction. The plastic parts are very strong but you can easyly break teeth off of the gears or twist the rods with the current motors and a little bit of gearing. On the other hand if you are going to build something out of other materials, you need to realize that the signal comming out of the RCX motor port is PWM (pulse width modulated) the speed of the motor is controled by the frequency of pulses sent to the motor. It may be possible to amplify the signal. 31,32c30,31 Anyone know how to amplify a signal that can be positive or negative. = Maybe an H-Bridge would work. Any suggestions? Anyone know how to amplify a signal that can be positive or negative. Maybe an H-Bridge would work. Any suggestions? 35,37c34,36 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joel Shafer=20 To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Joel Shafer To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 42,43c41 Maybe the RCX could be rigged up to control a speed controller from an = RC car. Maybe the RCX could be rigged up to control a speed controller from an RC car. 49,61c47,59 =20 I was wondering if anybody has investigated attaching more powerful = motors to the RCX. Can anybody tell me (before I bother finding out myself) how to rig = up a more powerful motor by getting the RCX output to control some sort = of amplifier that controls a bigger motor? =20 Also, just as side note, does anybody know what kind of plastic they = use to make lego? And is it safe? =20 thanx to you all - when I found this mailing list, I was releived to = find that I wasn't the only adult buying, and getting really into lego. =20 I was wondering if anybody has investigated attaching more powerful motors to the RCX. Can anybody tell me (before I bother finding out myself) how to rig up a more powerful motor by getting the RCX output to control some sort of amplifier that controls a bigger motor? Also, just as side note, does anybody know what kind of plastic they use to make lego? And is it safe? thanx to you all - when I found this mailing list, I was releived to find that I wasn't the only adult buying, and getting really into lego.
lugnet.robotics:7447 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,24c22,25 I'm no expert on AI or nothing, but perhaps by making, for example, = program 1 write program 2, write to program 3 etc, and use a some kind = of a genetic algorithm to determine best output. Or would all this be = infeasible with the RCX unit? I'm no expert on AI or nothing, but perhaps by making, for example, program 1 write program 2, write to program 3 etc, and use a some kind of a genetic algorithm to determine best output. Or would all this be infeasible with the RCX unit? 26c27 Also, what kind of space do we have for our programs? Can we concatenate = Also, what kind of space do we have for our programs? Can we concatenate
lugnet.robotics:7542 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,23c20,24 Can anybody tell me what the ACTUAL difference between the Mindstorms = RCX and the CyberMaster is? The only thing that I can find is pictures, = and they look different. It mentions something about games, and being able to write your own... = but isn't this just an SDK type thing?! Can anybody tell me what the ACTUAL difference between the Mindstorms RCX and the CyberMaster is? The only thing that I can find is pictures, and they look different. It mentions something about games, and being able to write your own... but isn't this just an SDK type thing?! 26,27c27,28 I only ask because I want to buy another unit. Everyone seems to have = the RCX (as do I), not the CyberMaster. Is there a reason for it? I only ask because I want to buy another unit. Everyone seems to have the RCX (as do I), not the CyberMaster. Is there a reason for it?
lugnet.robotics:7549 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 I was considering buying a Handspring Visor (A palm Pilot clone, kinda) = and I remembered about the JavaOne Conference with the Palm Pilot = controlling the RCX with Jini. I was considering buying a Handspring Visor (A palm Pilot clone, kinda) and I remembered about the JavaOne Conference with the Palm Pilot controlling the RCX with Jini. 23,25c24,26 I was wondering if this source coding was available or what sites have a = basis of the RCX/Palm control program. Or if a better way to = communicate for the Palm instead of Jini has been written. I was wondering if this source coding was available or what sites have a basis of the RCX/Palm control program. Or if a better way to communicate for the Palm instead of Jini has been written.
lugnet.robotics:7588 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 32 Lines: 28 21,22c22 to find a supplier who has small electrically operated (solenoid) valves= which to find a supplier who has small electrically operated (solenoid) valves which 29,30c29 That is simply a waste of energy. I have built lead screws around 10/32= nylon That is simply a waste of energy. I have built lead screws around 10/32 nylon 32,33c31 from a pneumatic cylinder. They are hugely powerful and demolish designs= which from a pneumatic cylinder. They are hugely powerful and demolish designs which 45,46c43 >buy more, but I=B4d like to know how you use the elements, make them work,= and >buy more, but I´d like to know how you use the elements, make them work, and 52d48
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lugnet.robotics:7678 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 42 Lines: 34 23,30c24,28 >>Just wondered if anyone had seen Microsoft's newest IntelliMouse and, = if so,=20 >>if they had the same thought I did about it: this thing cries out to be= =20 >>hacked. It uses a 'tiny CMOS digital camera' to see whatever surface is= =20 >>beneath it and measure its own relative movement. As a result, you are=20 >>supposed to be able to mouse on any surface except glass with great=20 >>Just wondered if anyone had seen Microsoft's newest IntelliMouse and, if so, >>if they had the same thought I did about it: this thing cries out to be >>hacked. It uses a 'tiny CMOS digital camera' to see whatever surface is >>beneath it and measure its own relative movement. As a result, you are >>supposed to be able to mouse on any surface except glass with great 35,40c33,35 >Huh, interesting. That would be cool. I'm realllly skeptical though -- = I've >seen older optical mice, and it's not just the required special mouse = pad >that is annoying -- they just plain don't work very well. And according = to >Huh, interesting. That would be cool. I'm realllly skeptical though -- I've >seen older optical mice, and it's not just the required special mouse pad >that is annoying -- they just plain don't work very well. And according to 57,63c52,54 >--=20 >Matthew Miller ---> = mattdm@mattdm.org >Quotes 'R' Us ---> = http://quotes-r-us.org/ >-- >Matthew Miller ---> mattdm@mattdm.org >Quotes 'R' Us ---> http://quotes-r-us.org/
lugnet.robotics:7710 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 29,30c30 >ones such as the planetary gear drive. Several of them, I=92ve yet to = see >ones such as the planetary gear drive. Several of them, I’ve yet to see 41d40
lugnet.robotics:7725 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 22 Lines: 20 19,23c20,22 > Tobias M=F6ller <tobias.moller@telia.com> wrote: > >laser pointer, and then have them to chase each other, trying to point t= he > >laser at the lightsensor. I know it will be tough, since the robot can= =B4t see > Tobias Möller <tobias.moller@telia.com> wrote: > >laser pointer, and then have them to chase each other, trying to point the > >laser at the lightsensor. I know it will be tough, since the robot can´t see 25c24 >=20 > 41,42d39
lugnet.robotics:7793 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 110 Lines: 95 22c23 <<...>>=20 <<...>> 35c36 "mis-matched" foot sizes.=20 "mis-matched" foot sizes. 38,40c39,40 size that they need to wear vastly different sized shoes on each = foot.=A0 (ie: Left size 8, right size 13.)=A0 Shoe stores will not break up two size that they need to wear vastly different sized shoes on each foot. (ie: Left size 8, right size 13.) Shoe stores will not break up two 42,45c42,43 know that they will never get rid of the remaining "pair" of shoes.=A0 = So people with this problem used to have to buy two pairs of shoes (ie: = one know that they will never get rid of the remaining "pair" of shoes. So people with this problem used to have to buy two pairs of shoes (ie: one 50,51c48 sizes and shoe style preferences.=A0 When a member needs to buy a pair = of sizes and shoe style preferences. When a member needs to buy a pair of 53,54c50 sizes.=A0 Then they buy two pairs of shoes, and each member ends up = with sizes. Then they buy two pairs of shoes, and each member ends up with 57c53 -----Original Message-----=20 -----Original Message----- 60,63c56,59 Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 3:22 PM=20 To: Chris Phillips=20 Cc: lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 Subject: RE: lego Technic "class"=20 Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 3:22 PM To: Chris Phillips Cc: lego-robotics@crynwr.com Subject: RE: lego Technic "class" 66,67c62 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If you have an abnormal foot = size If you have an abnormal foot size 70,71c65,66 twice as many shoes as those who do not?=A0 I could understand if you had=20 twice as many shoes as those who do not? I could understand if you had 73c68 an odd wear pattern on=20 an odd wear pattern on 75,76c70,71 larger foot not wear the=20 same?=20 larger foot not wear the same? 78,79c73 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I apologize for this e-mail. = It I apologize for this e-mail. It 82c76 Legos but I had to ask.=20 Legos but I had to ask. 84c78 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 <<...>>=20 <<...>> 88,94c82,85 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0 -----Original = Message-----=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0 From:=A0=A0 = Chris Phillips=20 [SMTP:chris.phillips@computerboards.com]=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0 Sent:=A0=A0 = Friday, October 29, -----Original Message----- From: Chris Phillips [SMTP:chris.phillips@computerboards.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 97c88 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0 To:=A0=A0=A0=A0 To: 100,101c91 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0 = Subject:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Re: lego Subject: Re: lego 105,106c95 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0 (This idea is = stolen from a (This idea is stolen from a 109,111c98,99 helps=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 people with abnormal = foot helps people with abnormal foot 114,116c102,103 leftover shoes so that they don't=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 need to buy twice as = many leftover shoes so that they don't need to buy twice as many 119c106 us.)=20 us.) 122,124c109,110 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 --=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 Did you check the = web site -- Did you check the web site 127,129c113,114 http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics=20 =09 http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics
lugnet.robotics:7807 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 =A1hola! ¡hola! 26c27 Horacio J. Pe=F1a Horacio J. Peña 31d31
lugnet.robotics:7827 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 30c31 They also had the Technics StarWars Battle Droid - about =A320 and They also had the Technics StarWars Battle Droid - about £20 and 32c33 expensive for what it is at =A380. expensive for what it is at £80. 44c45 Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! =3D=3D http://www.cauce.org/ Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! == http://www.cauce.org/ 46d46
lugnet.robotics:7846 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 21 Lines: 17 19,23c20 Can someone please tell me all the possible variables of the RIS motors. = I know the basic ones, ON/Off, power, direction, speed. I need to know = all of the variables and how to program/call them in the program. I am = creating a graphical user interface using VB 6.0. Also, is there a way = to accelerate and decelerate motors?? =20 Can someone please tell me all the possible variables of the RIS motors. I know the basic ones, ON/Off, power, direction, speed. I need to know all of the variables and how to program/call them in the program. I am creating a graphical user interface using VB 6.0. Also, is there a way to accelerate and decelerate motors??
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lugnet.robotics:7896 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,26c22,27 It's just that I've been using it Uni heaps, so I'm kinda getting into = it, AND I just got the windows GUI C++ libraries with a text book, so I = was interested in writing like a remote control thing/command consol for = my robots... and seeing how I have the C++ libraries for windows, and I = don't know VB, I was thinking if somebody has written something like = NQC, but as classes which I can call routines like OnFwd in NQC... It's just that I've been using it Uni heaps, so I'm kinda getting into it, AND I just got the windows GUI C++ libraries with a text book, so I was interested in writing like a remote control thing/command consol for my robots... and seeing how I have the C++ libraries for windows, and I don't know VB, I was thinking if somebody has written something like NQC, but as classes which I can call routines like OnFwd in NQC...
lugnet.robotics:7921 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 75 Lines: 70 24,33c25,29 >genius at creating pages so they aren't thumbnailed. I figured that = would >have taken too long for me to figure out. The first couple pages will = take a >while to load for anyone without a fast connection, but the last ones = are >ok. Any tips for making it better are welcome. For anyone who has never = been >to one of these you should take a look. It's very interesting and a lot = of >genius at creating pages so they aren't thumbnailed. I figured that would >have taken too long for me to figure out. The first couple pages will take a >while to load for anyone without a fast connection, but the last ones are >ok. Any tips for making it better are welcome. For anyone who has never been >to one of these you should take a look. It's very interesting and a lot of 50c46 balloon would be even better. =20 balloon would be even better. 95d90
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lugnet.robotics:8104 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 =09 22,27c23,28 I was thinking about Vlad Dumitresu's goal of tracking robot position with a= mouse. Arjen Gerstel's comment about wireless mice reminded me of a company= called Gyropoint, which makes an inexpensive plastic gyroscope. They have= embedded ;this into a wireless pointing device for computer demonstrations.= I had actually thought about playing with one for industrial robots. This= might be perfect for Vlad's experiment. Check out: I was thinking about Vlad Dumitresu's goal of tracking robot position with a mouse. Arjen Gerstel's comment about wireless mice reminded me of a company called Gyropoint, which makes an inexpensive plastic gyroscope. They have embedded ;this into a wireless pointing device for computer demonstrations. I had actually thought about playing with one for industrial robots. This might be perfect for Vlad's experiment. Check out: 39,41d39
lugnet.robotics:8181 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 Terry King <tking@together.net> wrote in message = Terry King <tking@together.net> wrote in message 33,34d33
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lugnet.robotics:8512 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 22c23 Jonathan Perret <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> wrote in message = Jonathan Perret <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> wrote in message 25,26c26 > Are you sure there's much paperwork to do ? It's funny to see that = most > Are you sure there's much paperwork to do ? It's funny to see that most 29,33c29,33 One (big?) reason might be that (all of) their consumer electronic = products are capable to handle only 110V. Both Mac Donalds and Radio = Shack are similiar in that sence that their products are (or suppose to = be) the same everywhere selled. It's much easier to get the ingredients = for burgers locally than sell the 110V products with transformers. One (big?) reason might be that (all of) their consumer electronic products are capable to handle only 110V. Both Mac Donalds and Radio Shack are similiar in that sence that their products are (or suppose to be) the same everywhere selled. It's much easier to get the ingredients for burgers locally than sell the 110V products with transformers. 37d36
lugnet.robotics:8544 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 35 20,22c21,23 I'm new to this list and to Lego Mindstorms. I bought version 1.0 last = week (well, actually 4 weeks ago if you consider the eToys shipping = delay). It's great so far, of course. I'm new to this list and to Lego Mindstorms. I bought version 1.0 last week (well, actually 4 weeks ago if you consider the eToys shipping delay). It's great so far, of course. 24,29c25,29 I was wondering if anyone out there has tried to control the RCX using = Sanscript (a truly visual language by Nortwoods Software). If not, I'd = like that to be my first contribution to the Mindstorms community. It's = quite simple -- it took about half an hour. All I needed to figure out = was to rename Spirit.ocx to Spirit.olb. Sanscript doesn't understand the = ocx extension.=20 I was wondering if anyone out there has tried to control the RCX using Sanscript (a truly visual language by Nortwoods Software). If not, I'd like that to be my first contribution to the Mindstorms community. It's quite simple -- it took about half an hour. All I needed to figure out was to rename Spirit.ocx to Spirit.olb. Sanscript doesn't understand the ocx extension. 33,34c33,34 2. Download Sanscript Pro from www.trulyvisual.com (it's really nice, = although they only give you a one-month evaluation period). 2. Download Sanscript Pro from www.trulyvisual.com (it's really nice, although they only give you a one-month evaluation period). 39,41c39,41 The function icons and especially their names are not that great, but = everything seems to work. It's certainly more fun to program in = Sanscript than in VB or VC++, IMHO. The function icons and especially their names are not that great, but everything seems to work. It's certainly more fun to program in Sanscript than in VB or VC++, IMHO.
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lugnet.robotics:8553 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 86 Lines: 69 19c20 If you did not download it from Lego, but say found it in a=20 If you did not download it from Lego, but say found it in a 34,37c35,36 >> That is definitely true, at least right now. Everyone who downloaded = the >> Scout SDK agreed not to "reverse-engineer" it, and that includes = figuring >> That is definitely true, at least right now. Everyone who downloaded the >> Scout SDK agreed not to "reverse-engineer" it, and that includes figuring 40,43c39,40 >Hmm, I'm not so sure. Did everyone actually *really* agree not to = reverse- >engineer it? Look closer at the license agreement[1]...it says that = you may >Hmm, I'm not so sure. Did everyone actually *really* agree not to reverse- >engineer it? Look closer at the license agreement[1]...it says that you may 47,50c44,45 > (except to the extent that this restriction is expressly = prohibited > = ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > (except to the extent that this restriction is expressly prohibited > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 55,58c50,51 >engineer the SDK is dependent on local/national laws (and presumably, = in the >case of U.S. downloads, that means the State of Connecticut if = provision VI >engineer the SDK is dependent on local/national laws (and presumably, in the >case of U.S. downloads, that means the State of Connecticut if provision VI 60,61c53 >*everyone* who downloaded it actually agreed not to reverse-engineer = it. >*everyone* who downloaded it actually agreed not to reverse-engineer it. 63,66c55,56 >Moreover, even if someone did agree not to do it, it doesn't = necessarily >mean that they can't legally still go ahead and do it; it may very well = be >Moreover, even if someone did agree not to do it, it doesn't necessarily >mean that they can't legally still go ahead and do it; it may very well be 70,75c60,62 >> As I see it, the only way the download protocol or bytecode format = are >> going to become legally available is if someone figures it out on = their own, >> without having interacted with any of us. You can't just recruit = someone to >> As I see it, the only way the download protocol or bytecode format are >> going to become legally available is if someone figures it out on their own, >> without having interacted with any of us. You can't just recruit someone to 77,78c64 >> responsible for what they have done, and you would still be = considered >> responsible for what they have done, and you would still be considered 90,92c76,77 >As far as I can tell (and again, I am not a lawyer and this is just my=20 >unqualified opinion), there's nothing whatsoever legally that LEGO can = do >As far as I can tell (and again, I am not a lawyer and this is just my >unqualified opinion), there's nothing whatsoever legally that LEGO can do 97,98c82 >simply a bit of standard legal FUD to scare people off. Can't blame = 'em, >simply a bit of standard legal FUD to scare people off. Can't blame 'em, 105,106d88
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lugnet.robotics:8741 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,22c20,23 With my USB Multifunctional hub, I discovered with the com ports, I can = accually set the speeds (110 to 921600 bits/s) of the port, has anyone = tried to see if increasing the port speed will help improve IR = communications between the computer and the RCX? With my USB Multifunctional hub, I discovered with the com ports, I can accually set the speeds (110 to 921600 bits/s) of the port, has anyone tried to see if increasing the port speed will help improve IR communications between the computer and the RCX?
lugnet.robotics:8771 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 68 Lines: 65 20c21 Nope. It will not receive anything when the tower goes off.=20 Nope. It will not receive anything when the tower goes off. 22,29c23,29 Michael- I've been real busy, but if you look in the firmdl (fastdl=20 now?) code, you'll see that there is a "keepalive" function that tests=20 for tower awareness somehow (don't remember the actual mechanism right=20 off the top of my head) and send a signal out so that the tower will=20 remain on, even while not transmitting anything. Don't know how=20 applicable that'll be to Java (having only learned the language two weeks= =20 ago and never having done any i/o stuff) but it may serve as a start.=20 Michael- I've been real busy, but if you look in the firmdl (fastdl now?) code, you'll see that there is a "keepalive" function that tests for tower awareness somehow (don't remember the actual mechanism right off the top of my head) and send a signal out so that the tower will remain on, even while not transmitting anything. Don't know how applicable that'll be to Java (having only learned the language two weeks ago and never having done any i/o stuff) but it may serve as a start. 37c37 >=20 > 39,41c39,41 >=20 > michael yates a =E9crit : > >=20 > > michael yates a écrit : > > 43,47c43,47 > >=20 > > I am trying to build a java interface to legOS Lego Networking Protocol= . Before > > everyone who doesn't have legOS 0.2.2 running closes this message the q= uestion > > > > I am trying to build a java interface to legOS Lego Networking Protocol. > > Before > > everyone who doesn't have legOS 0.2.2 running closes this message the > > question 49,63c49,61 > >=20 > > Good, now the question is that I read in a news post and some point tha= t the IR > > tower will only be "awake" and ready to receive data if it has recently= sent > > data. I don't mind this so much because what is the point of having an = IR link > > if you are not going to use it in both directions BUT at the moment I a= m still > > in development stage and I was wondering if anyone could give me a bit = more > > information on the timeout like what the value is (approximately). I al= so read > > that someone knows the pin to tie to groun (I think) to turn off the po= wer save > > > > Good, now the question is that I read in a news post and some point that the > > IR > > tower will only be "awake" and ready to receive data if it has recently sent > > data. I don't mind this so much because what is the point of having an IR > > link > > if you are not going to use it in both directions BUT at the moment I am > > still > > in development stage and I was wondering if anyone could give me a bit more > > information on the timeout like what the value is (approximately). I also > > read > > that someone knows the pin to tie to groun (I think) to turn off the power > > save 65c63 > >=20 > > 67c65 > >=20 > > 70,73c68,71 >=20 > --=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=20 > Philippe Jadin =20 > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Philippe Jadin 79,80c77,78 >=20 >=20 > > 85c83 =09 -Anonymous -Anonymous 88d85
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lugnet.robotics:8999 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 51 Lines: 40 24c25 The cheapest we get RIS 1.5 in Sweden is for SEK 1900,=20 The cheapest we get RIS 1.5 in Sweden is for SEK 1900, 30c31 Fr=E5n: Steve Hassenplug <SteveH@mailcode.com> Från: Steve Hassenplug <SteveH@mailcode.com> 33c34 =C4mne: RE: Sale Postings (was: Super Car on sale) Ämne: RE: Sale Postings (was: Super Car on sale) 36,37c37 >As far as I'm concerned, last week was the most useful & informative = week >As far as I'm concerned, last week was the most useful & informative week 40,43c40,41 >First we get this great little piece of info that LEGO is actually = listening >to us and what we have to say. Not that it's really a surprise. You = don't >First we get this great little piece of info that LEGO is actually listening >to us and what we have to say. Not that it's really a surprise. You don't 46,49c44,45 >Second, I found out where to get a set that I've been trying to find = for >several months. Of course, I had to make a 120 mile (round trip) drive = to >Second, I found out where to get a set that I've been trying to find for >several months. Of course, I had to make a 120 mile (round trip) drive to 51,52c47 >Shuttle setting on my kitchen table. I can't believe it took me 10 = hours to >Shuttle setting on my kitchen table. I can't believe it took me 10 hours to 55,64c50,54 >In case anyone's interested, the Zany Brainy I went to (Indianapolis, = IN) >had many (20 or 30) of the RIS 1.0 sets with 1.5 stickers. And about = 10 >Space Shuttles. I spent a lot of time trying to justify buying a = second >Shuttle or a second RIS, but I couldn't quite do it. Does anyone know = the >exact piece count for the Shuttle? (and the cost/piece @ $75) Maybe = that >In case anyone's interested, the Zany Brainy I went to (Indianapolis, IN) >had many (20 or 30) of the RIS 1.0 sets with 1.5 stickers. And about 10 >Space Shuttles. I spent a lot of time trying to justify buying a second >Shuttle or a second RIS, but I couldn't quite do it. Does anyone know the >exact piece count for the Shuttle? (and the cost/piece @ $75) Maybe that 69c59 ></steve>=20 ></steve> 71,72d60
lugnet.robotics:9000 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 62 Lines: 51 25c26 Fr=E5n: Jari Pyyluoma <jari-pyy@dsv.su.se> Från: Jari Pyyluoma <jari-pyy@dsv.su.se> 28c29 =C4mne: SV: Sale Postings (was: Super Car on sale) Ämne: SV: Sale Postings (was: Super Car on sale) 35c36 The cheapest we get RIS 1.5 in Sweden is for SEK 1900,=20 The cheapest we get RIS 1.5 in Sweden is for SEK 1900, 41c42 Fr=E5n: Steve Hassenplug <SteveH@mailcode.com> Från: Steve Hassenplug <SteveH@mailcode.com> 44c45 =C4mne: RE: Sale Postings (was: Super Car on sale) Ämne: RE: Sale Postings (was: Super Car on sale) 47,48c48 >As far as I'm concerned, last week was the most useful & informative = week >As far as I'm concerned, last week was the most useful & informative week 51,54c51,52 >First we get this great little piece of info that LEGO is actually = listening >to us and what we have to say. Not that it's really a surprise. You = don't >First we get this great little piece of info that LEGO is actually listening >to us and what we have to say. Not that it's really a surprise. You don't 57,60c55,56 >Second, I found out where to get a set that I've been trying to find = for >several months. Of course, I had to make a 120 mile (round trip) drive = to >Second, I found out where to get a set that I've been trying to find for >several months. Of course, I had to make a 120 mile (round trip) drive to 62,63c58 >Shuttle setting on my kitchen table. I can't believe it took me 10 = hours to >Shuttle setting on my kitchen table. I can't believe it took me 10 hours to 66,75c61,65 >In case anyone's interested, the Zany Brainy I went to (Indianapolis, = IN) >had many (20 or 30) of the RIS 1.0 sets with 1.5 stickers. And about = 10 >Space Shuttles. I spent a lot of time trying to justify buying a = second >Shuttle or a second RIS, but I couldn't quite do it. Does anyone know = the >exact piece count for the Shuttle? (and the cost/piece @ $75) Maybe = that >In case anyone's interested, the Zany Brainy I went to (Indianapolis, IN) >had many (20 or 30) of the RIS 1.0 sets with 1.5 stickers. And about 10 >Space Shuttles. I spent a lot of time trying to justify buying a second >Shuttle or a second RIS, but I couldn't quite do it. Does anyone know the >exact piece count for the Shuttle? (and the cost/piece @ $75) Maybe that 80c70 ></steve>=20 ></steve> 82,84d71
lugnet.robotics:9005 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 24 Lines: 23 19,22c20,23 I've just posted a genetic algorithm program that generates a program = for the Scout (in Lego Assembler). The GA uses a simulation to determine = a behaviour that allows the Scout to search for a bright light and stay = in that area. The program itself is written in Quick Basic. I've just posted a genetic algorithm program that generates a program for the Scout (in Lego Assembler). The GA uses a simulation to determine a behaviour that allows the Scout to search for a bright light and stay in that area. The program itself is written in Quick Basic. 24,25c25,26 Pages of interest: AI section 'Model Behaviour' and 'GeneticAlgorithms' = for background information and then the real program at 'Breed Robots'. Pages of interest: AI section 'Model Behaviour' and 'GeneticAlgorithms' for background information and then the real program at 'Breed Robots'. 30,31c31 Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning in Lego pBricks = www.bvandam.net Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning in Lego pBricks www.bvandam.net
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lugnet.robotics:9040 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Well, might take me a bit since I just got a really cool new toy, a Sony = DCR PC100 (Digital Camcorder, really sweet) Well, might take me a bit since I just got a really cool new toy, a Sony DCR PC100 (Digital Camcorder, really sweet) 22,23c23,24 As for MIBO, might be a bit til I get the instructions up due to finals = and the grinch-mas season. As for MIBO, might be a bit til I get the instructions up due to finals and the grinch-mas season. 25,26c26,27 What I might do is show the group how to build a front and a hind leg, = the the body. What I might do is show the group how to build a front and a hind leg, the the body. 30,32c31,33 The main "strange" partsI used were 2 of the dual crown small and large = gears, 2 fiber optic, the 6 turn tables, a bunch of the flat turn = peices, some chains, 2 rotation sensors, and 2 electrical plates (2x4) The main "strange" partsI used were 2 of the dual crown small and large gears, 2 fiber optic, the 6 turn tables, a bunch of the flat turn peices, some chains, 2 rotation sensors, and 2 electrical plates (2x4) 34,35c35,36 Off the top of my head, that is all I can think of, but might be putting = updates on my page regarding it. Off the top of my head, that is all I can think of, but might be putting updates on my page regarding it. 37,38c38,39 As soon as I get my other RIS 1.5 kit, I plan on possible giving it = joints in the front legs also along with a rotating head. As soon as I get my other RIS 1.5 kit, I plan on possible giving it joints in the front legs also along with a rotating head.
lugnet.robotics:9140 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Well, just got a part of the instructions complete, the question is = would people rather have them in MLcad or the way I had my other = how-to's (Pics of the sections)? Well, just got a part of the instructions complete, the question is would people rather have them in MLcad or the way I had my other how-to's (Pics of the sections)? 23,24c24,25 Messing around with MLcad, found some parts of it I didn't care much for = AKA can't group pieces together and move as one big section Messing around with MLcad, found some parts of it I didn't care much for AKA can't group pieces together and move as one big section 26,27c27,28 Just took some pics of a front leg with some major modifications on the = leg and I find it works a lot better than my previous version. Just took some pics of a front leg with some major modifications on the leg and I find it works a lot better than my previous version. 29,30c30,31 If the people want the leg pics now, I'll do that and upload, else give = me a few days and I'll get the MLcad pics up. If the people want the leg pics now, I'll do that and upload, else give me a few days and I'll get the MLcad pics up.
lugnet.robotics:9175 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 19,22c20,23 Well, I know I promised to get some pics of MIBO up BUT a problem has = happened. Apon not paying attention in calculus and trying to see if I = could improve the hind leg of MIBO, I reliezed I could do some really = neat stuff from the principle of it. Well, I know I promised to get some pics of MIBO up BUT a problem has happened. Apon not paying attention in calculus and trying to see if I could improve the hind leg of MIBO, I reliezed I could do some really neat stuff from the principle of it. 24,25c25 Well, needless to say, sorry but I want to see if I can complete this = bot. Well, needless to say, sorry but I want to see if I can complete this bot. 27,28c27,28 I can hook people up with the front and hind leg pics if they want, but = haven't gotten much farther than that on MIBO. I can hook people up with the front and hind leg pics if they want, but haven't gotten much farther than that on MIBO. 30,31c30,31 Might go back on him later this week after I get my bot complete if I = have enought parts. Might go back on him later this week after I get my bot complete if I have enought parts.
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lugnet.robotics:9272 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 In response to Mark Geddes informal poll.=20 In response to Mark Geddes informal poll. 23,31c24,32 =09 I didn't do legos as a child. My wife and I got the Mindstorms kit for my= 10 year old last Chrism-akkah (as my wife puts it), but dad seems to be= more interested. Having spent most of my career in industrial robots and= machine vision, mindstorms is just the kind of toy I can get into.=20 To Brad Justus and the gang at Lego, Having a Mac version of the Lego tools= would make a "huge" difference in my son getting involved with Mindstorms.= I would gladly volunteer to be an alpha-tester if such a product is in the = I didn't do legos as a child. My wife and I got the Mindstorms kit for my 10 year old last Chrism-akkah (as my wife puts it), but dad seems to be more interested. Having spent most of my career in industrial robots and machine vision, mindstorms is just the kind of toy I can get into. To Brad Justus and the gang at Lego, Having a Mac version of the Lego tools would make a "huge" difference in my son getting involved with Mindstorms. I would gladly volunteer to be an alpha-tester if such a product is in the 39,41d39
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lugnet.robotics:9286 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 In a message dated 12/22/99 9:26:45 AM Central Standard Time, = connorbd@yahoo.com writes: In a message dated 12/22/99 9:26:45 AM Central Standard Time, connorbd@yahoo.com writes: 23c24 > >=20 > > 27c28 =20 30c31 =20 33,34c34,35 sensor.=20 =20 sensor. 38,39c39,40 Isn't the basic touch sensor a pressure sensor? I get pressure setting = when I have the sensor in RAW mode with Spirit.ocx. Isn't the basic touch sensor a pressure sensor? I get pressure setting when I have the sensor in RAW mode with Spirit.ocx.
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lugnet.robotics:9516 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 30 Lines: 27 20,22c21,22 I pay for my online time and thus also for picking up mail. Please = refrain from sending mails like this, but post them on your website = instead. I pay for my online time and thus also for picking up mail. Please refrain from sending mails like this, but post them on your website instead. 27,28c27 Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning in Lego pBricks = www.bvandam.net Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning in Lego pBricks www.bvandam.net 36,38c35,36 Onderwerp: Touch sensor for passing trains - CAD photo of working = design =20 Onderwerp: Touch sensor for passing trains - CAD photo of working design
lugnet.robotics:9554 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 20 Lines: 17 22,26c23,25 >I have been trying to get some detailed pictures for building Linc Smith= =A5s >suspension model but I was not able to access the original web page and hi= s >e-mail address appears to be down. No luck with Wes=A5e-mail either (the >I have been trying to get some detailed pictures for building Linc Smith¥s >suspension model but I was not able to access the original web page and his >e-mail address appears to be down. No luck with Wes¥e-mail either (the 28,29c27 > one of his projects). Does anyone know about a reliable link to access th= is > one of his projects). Does anyone know about a reliable link to access this 40d37
lugnet.robotics:9635 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 53 Lines: 38 20,21c21 >I'm by no means a legal expert, and perhaps I'm being a bit paranoid, = but >I'm by no means a legal expert, and perhaps I'm being a bit paranoid, but 24,29c24,26 >First, I wouldn't trust anything I wrote to actually hold up in a court = of >law, so I'd need to hire an attorney to write it. One way around this = may >be to use something already in existence (such as the GPL) to license = the >First, I wouldn't trust anything I wrote to actually hold up in a court of >law, so I'd need to hire an attorney to write it. One way around this may >be to use something already in existence (such as the GPL) to license the 33,38c30,33 To begin with a license is only binding for those that have signed it. = The rest of the world is not bound by it. So if you license something you'd = better make very sure that it is not spread further. That is usually done by using = huge damages. To begin with a license is only binding for those that have signed it. The rest of the world is not bound by it. So if you license something you'd better make very sure that it is not spread further. That is usually done by using huge damages. 41,46c36,38 >Second (and more important), enforcing the agreement would be = difficult.=20 >The burden would be on me to sue anyone who infringed on this. Let's = say >a book comes out next year and the 3D stuff looks suspciously like = mine.=20 >Second (and more important), enforcing the agreement would be difficult. >The burden would be on me to sue anyone who infringed on this. Let's say >a book comes out next year and the 3D stuff looks suspciously like mine. 48,51c40,41 >publisher just took my models and tweaked them a bit? They would be = under >no obligation to show me their 3D data files - not without a court = order.=20 >publisher just took my models and tweaked them a bit? They would be under >no obligation to show me their 3D data files - not without a court order. 53,54c43 >bricks), thus it would be expected that independently developed 3D = models >bricks), thus it would be expected that independently developed 3D models 57c46 >*may* have infringed? =20 >*may* have infringed? 60,62c49,51 Secondly copyright is binding for everyone, except maybe for people in = countries which do not recognise copyright the way we do. But copyright is only afforded = Secondly copyright is binding for everyone, except maybe for people in countries which do not recognise copyright the way we do. But copyright is only afforded 64,69c53,55 creations. If there is a chance someone independently can create the = same thing,=20 then courts usually won't give copyright-protection. Copyright can never = protect ideas. Without copyright-protection there is no other protection, except = if you creations. If there is a chance someone independently can create the same thing, then courts usually won't give copyright-protection. Copyright can never protect ideas. Without copyright-protection there is no other protection, except if you 73,75d58
lugnet.robotics:9744 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,23c21,24 Whoops! Sorry, I pulled the name off of the reply instead of the = original... I hope our Radio Shack's still have it if it has anything = good in it... they are only $1.49 I think but they clearanced a lot of = them out at a dime or so to make room for other pegables. Whoops! Sorry, I pulled the name off of the reply instead of the original... I hope our Radio Shack's still have it if it has anything good in it... they are only $1.49 I think but they clearanced a lot of them out at a dime or so to make room for other pegables. 26,28c27,29 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David C. Pyatt=20 To: "alex wetmore"=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: David C. Pyatt To: "alex wetmore" 35,37c36,38 Which project book was it exactly? What does it feature? Our = local 'Shack clearanced some of the engineer's notebooks, but it might = be something I'll want to get one way or another... Which project book was it exactly? What does it feature? Our local 'Shack clearanced some of the engineer's notebooks, but it might be something I'll want to get one way or another...
lugnet.robotics:9750 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 58 Lines: 57 20c21 I use Outlook Express, and two Inbox rules take care of 99.5% of moving = I use Outlook Express, and two Inbox rules take care of 99.5% of moving 23,30c24,31 (1) If To contains 'lego-robotics@crynwr.com', then move to: 'Lego = Robotics' [folder] (2) If From contains 'lego-robotics@crynwr.com', then move to: 'Lego = Robotics' [folder] There are still a few that slip by, and, of course a few items addressed = exclusively to me as a reply, but these items should take care of most = of your problems. (1) If To contains 'lego-robotics@crynwr.com', then move to: 'Lego Robotics' [folder] (2) If From contains 'lego-robotics@crynwr.com', then move to: 'Lego Robotics' [folder] There are still a few that slip by, and, of course a few items addressed exclusively to me as a reply, but these items should take care of most of your problems. 55,65c56,65 =20 =20 I was wondering if this mailing list could mark the "from" as = "lego-robotics". It is a very active and useful mailing list. = Unfortunately I am deluged with emails. With other mailing lists that = are marked I sort the inbox by from and then put them into a special = folder for reading a lunch, after work or if I am really busy the = weekend. With each persons contribution shown as coming from them it is = difficult to sort out lego grams from business email which I am, = unfortunately forced to deal with first.=20 =20 I was wondering if this mailing list could mark the "from" as "lego-robotics". It is a very active and useful mailing list. Unfortunately I am deluged with emails. With other mailing lists that are marked I sort the inbox by from and then put them into a special folder for reading a lunch, after work or if I am really busy the weekend. With each persons contribution shown as coming from them it is difficult to sort out lego grams from business email which I am, unfortunately forced to deal with first. 67c67 =20
lugnet.robotics:9755 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 21 Lines: 20 19,26c20,26 I was wondering if this mailing list could mark the "from" as = "lego-robotics". It is a very active and useful mailing list. = Unfortunately I am deluged with emails. With other mailing lists that = are marked I sort the inbox by from and then put them into a special = folder for reading a lunch, after work or if I am really busy the = weekend. With each persons contribution shown as coming from them it is = difficult to sort out lego grams from business email which I am, = unfortunately forced to deal with first.=20 I was wondering if this mailing list could mark the "from" as "lego-robotics". It is a very active and useful mailing list. Unfortunately I am deluged with emails. With other mailing lists that are marked I sort the inbox by from and then put them into a special folder for reading a lunch, after work or if I am really busy the weekend. With each persons contribution shown as coming from them it is difficult to sort out lego grams from business email which I am, unfortunately forced to deal with first.
lugnet.robotics:9767 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 25,35c26,35 =20 =20 I was wondering if this mailing list could mark the "from" as = "lego-robotics". It is a very active and useful mailing list. = Unfortunately I am deluged with emails. With other mailing lists that = are marked I sort the inbox by from and then put them into a special = folder for reading a lunch, after work or if I am really busy the = weekend. With each persons contribution shown as coming from them it is = difficult to sort out lego grams from business email which I am, = unfortunately forced to deal with first.=20 =20 I was wondering if this mailing list could mark the "from" as "lego-robotics". It is a very active and useful mailing list. Unfortunately I am deluged with emails. With other mailing lists that are marked I sort the inbox by from and then put them into a special folder for reading a lunch, after work or if I am really busy the weekend. With each persons contribution shown as coming from them it is difficult to sort out lego grams from business email which I am, unfortunately forced to deal with first. 37c37 =20
lugnet.robotics:9793 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 46 Lines: 41 20,21c21 >>I have uploaded my scans of the Sensor Projects Book from Radio Shack = to >>I have uploaded my scans of the Sensor Projects Book from Radio Shack to 25,27c25,26 Copying for private use, or for some friends is not illegal, although = some people want to make it illegal. Like publishers who have a stake in such = Copying for private use, or for some friends is not illegal, although some people want to make it illegal. Like publishers who have a stake in such 29,34c28,32 Writers usually have less interest because they are not the ones living = on their creations, or get the largests part of the earnings. Of course software = is an exception to this rule, it is always illegal to copy except for backup. The = problem with putting stuff Writers usually have less interest because they are not the ones living on their creations, or get the largests part of the earnings. Of course software is an exception to this rule, it is always illegal to copy except for backup. The problem with putting stuff 37,39c35,37 >but the book only=20 >costs $1.50 or so, is available all over the US, and in my opinion=20 >Forrest Mims deserves the royalties: he's arguably done more for hobby=20 >but the book only >costs $1.50 or so, is available all over the US, and in my opinion >Forrest Mims deserves the royalties: he's arguably done more for hobby 43,44c41 If the book only costs $ 1.50 then I suspect he gets no royalties. In = fact it If the book only costs $ 1.50 then I suspect he gets no royalties. In fact it 47,50c44,46 it is an higher moral to put it on the net even if it is not legal, = rather than wasting forest and fuel. On the other hand if he gets royalties he surely = deserves it is an higher moral to put it on the net even if it is not legal, rather than wasting forest and fuel. On the other hand if he gets royalties he surely deserves 53,56c49,52 And of course the book MAY be available in the rest of the world, or = not. It looks like a good book. But if it is not, then the rest of the world has made = a loss. (This And of course the book MAY be available in the rest of the world, or not. It looks like a good book. But if it is not, then the rest of the world has made a loss. (This 59,62c55,58 Personally I think that copyright is an area were the consumers = interests are considered last. As they say: when making a book - copying one book is considered = immoral, but Personally I think that copyright is an area were the consumers interests are considered last. As they say: when making a book - copying one book is considered immoral, but 66,67d61
lugnet.robotics:9870 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 54c55 Outputs Dual analog channels, 2.5v =B1 0.4v swing (total voltage Outputs Dual analog channels, 2.5v ± 0.4v swing (total voltage 75c76 Outputs Dual analog channels, 2.5v =B1 0.75v swing (total voltage Outputs Dual analog channels, 2.5v ± 0.75v swing (total voltage 86,88d86
lugnet.robotics:9921 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 43 Lines: 40 22,23c23,24 > > Tobias M=F6ller <tobias.moller@telia.com> wrote: > > >I=B4ve heard that you can program the RCX in very advanced ways, > > Tobias Möller <tobias.moller@telia.com> wrote: > > >I´ve heard that you can program the RCX in very advanced ways, 30,31c31 > > official firmware, you can program the hardware at the machine level, s= o > > official firmware, you can program the hardware at the machine level, so 33,36c33,34 > > can do very advanced stuff. With NQC (or RoboLab) you're still limited = by > > Lego's firmware, so it's not as powerful. (For example, with NQC, you'r= e > > can do very advanced stuff. With NQC (or RoboLab) you're still limited by > > Lego's firmware, so it's not as powerful. (For example, with NQC, you're 38c36 >=20 > 49,53c47,51 computational complexity. Debugging is also practically impossible- the=20 hoops my class has had to jump through to get sophisticated programs=20 running are just unbelievable. That said, you can still do cool things-=20 but they will take lots of patience, and lots of mechanical ingenuity.=20 Software is just not going to be the problem, especially once you get a=20 computational complexity. Debugging is also practically impossible- the hoops my class has had to jump through to get sophisticated programs running are just unbelievable. That said, you can still do cool things- but they will take lots of patience, and lots of mechanical ingenuity. Software is just not going to be the problem, especially once you get a 60c58 =09 -Anonymous -Anonymous 63d60
lugnet.robotics:9950 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 Lines: 23 Lines: 22 24c25 "TM" =3D=3D Tobias M=F6ller <tobias.moller@telia.com> writes: "TM" == Tobias Möller <tobias.moller@telia.com> writes: 26c27 TM> If I=B4ve understood this multi-tasking right, then it means that TM> If I´ve understood this multi-tasking right, then it means that 36,37c37 example, your MP3 player may continue playing a song, and the clock on = example, your MP3 player may continue playing a song, and the clock on
lugnet.robotics:9969 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 18 19,22c20,22 For those of you interested in the Scout I've posted an example of = communication software between Mindstorm and Scout. The software is nqc = for the Mindstorm and Lego assembler for the Scout. The page is = master/slave on www.bvandam.net For those of you interested in the Scout I've posted an example of communication software between Mindstorm and Scout. The software is nqc for the Mindstorm and Lego assembler for the Scout. The page is master/slave on www.bvandam.net 26,27c26 Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning in Lego pBricks = www.bvandam.net Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning in Lego pBricks www.bvandam.net
lugnet.robotics:10055 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 36 19,33c20,33 I've missed some of the discussion on the ping-pong ball shooter, I just = needed to know if this idea stemmed from it being "launched" like a = catapult or are you open to other ideas. One way to accomplish this without worrying too much about physical = strain on the lego connections is to use a rotary force to drive the = ping-pong ball. Gear up two motors and put small rubber wheels on them. = Make sure that the Motors can start it moving due to the torque. Build = a structure so that the two motors, specifically the two geared wheels = have a gap between them just a tad smaller than the ping-pong ball. = Obviously make sure the motors turn in the opposite directions and that = the two sides of the wheels closest together rotate as to throw an = object out. Using a transmission manual or automatic transmission once = you get the motors moving and then gearing it up will increase the = distance. Sorry I don't have any pictures. But I think you all get the = I've missed some of the discussion on the ping-pong ball shooter, I just needed to know if this idea stemmed from it being "launched" like a catapult or are you open to other ideas. One way to accomplish this without worrying too much about physical strain on the lego connections is to use a rotary force to drive the ping-pong ball. Gear up two motors and put small rubber wheels on them. Make sure that the Motors can start it moving due to the torque. Build a structure so that the two motors, specifically the two geared wheels have a gap between them just a tad smaller than the ping-pong ball. Obviously make sure the motors turn in the opposite directions and that the two sides of the wheels closest together rotate as to throw an object out. Using a transmission manual or automatic transmission once you get the motors moving and then gearing it up will increase the distance. Sorry I don't have any pictures. But I think you all get the 37c37 =20 41,43c41,42 and set them so that when they both get power the is to gear up two = motors on on top and one on the bottom of the "barrell." The firing = mechanism and set them so that when they both get power the is to gear up two motors on on top and one on the bottom of the "barrell." The firing mechanism 47c46 =20
lugnet.robotics:10093 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 25 21,22c22,23 1. Can anybody tell me if there is a way to upload a program FROM the = RCX to a PC 1. Can anybody tell me if there is a way to upload a program FROM the RCX to a PC 25,32c26,29 2. Is there a way to make changes to a program directly while it is in = the=20 RCX?? I would like to be able make changes to the VB code "online" = without=20 having to make the changes on the PC and then redownload. I know it can = be=20 done with PLC's and since the RCX is like a mini PLC I thought maybe you = 2. Is there a way to make changes to a program directly while it is in the RCX?? I would like to be able make changes to the VB code "online" without having to make the changes on the PC and then redownload. I know it can be done with PLC's and since the RCX is like a mini PLC I thought maybe you
lugnet.robotics:10105 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 61 Lines: 53 19c20 Well I found the parts numbers sooner than I thought: =20 Well I found the parts numbers sooner than I thought: 21,33c22,29 35327 3/2-Wege Magnetventil (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) ben=F6tigt noch = 2*35328 0.00=09 35328 Schlauchanschluss Magnetventil f=FCr 35327 (lieferbar ab Juni = 2000) 0.00=09 However, it appears that this part will not be available individually = until June 2000. In the meantime if you are interested in getting the part it = will be necessary to order the pneumatic robots set. To make a robot with = this 35327 3/2-Wege Magnetventil (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) benötigt noch 2*35328 0.00 35328 Schlauchanschluss Magnetventil für 35327 (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) 0.00 However, it appears that this part will not be available individually until June 2000. In the meantime if you are interested in getting the part it will be necessary to order the pneumatic robots set. To make a robot with this 35,38c31,32 fischertechnik equivalent of the RCX but with four outputs and 10 = inputs (eight digital, two analog)), a "powerblock" (aka battery box), and = the fischertechnik equivalent of the RCX but with four outputs and 10 inputs (eight digital, two analog)), a "powerblock" (aka battery box), and the 41,42c35 I will report my experiments with this kit and adaptations to the Lego = RCX I will report my experiments with this kit and adaptations to the Lego RCX 45c38 Michael=20 Michael 60c53 in Germany).=20 in Germany). 76c69 =09 80d72
lugnet.robotics:10116 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 20 Lines: 18 25,26c26 >There were some at <http://www.thetoyshop.com/> for =A340 UK, but they've= all >There were some at <http://www.thetoyshop.com/> for £40 UK, but they've all 28c28 It would be perfect... =A340 :( It would be perfect... £40 :( 31,32c31 ><http://www.tente.dabsol.co.uk/uklug/shopping.html> for =A370.. which might= be ><http://www.tente.dabsol.co.uk/uklug/shopping.html> for £70.. which might be 41d39
lugnet.robotics:10135 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 31c32 an official lego-page? I have a lego-folder on my home-page.=20 an official lego-page? I have a lego-folder on my home-page. 48,57d48
lugnet.robotics:10146 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 30 Lines: 29 25,26c26 ps since it is ten bits it is between 0 and 1023 (or possibly 1 and = 1024) ps since it is ten bits it is between 0 and 1023 (or possibly 1 and 1024) 30c30 Fr=E5n: dominic frutiger <droid11@student.ethz.ch> Från: dominic frutiger <droid11@student.ethz.ch> 33c33 =C4mne: stupid question: meaning of RAW Ämne: stupid question: meaning of RAW 38c38 >it must be a stupid question: what exactly is the meaning of RAW=20 >it must be a stupid question: what exactly is the meaning of RAW 50,51d49
lugnet.robotics:10210 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 43 Lines: 31 21,22c22 > = > 24,27c24,25 > = > 35327 3/2-Wege Magnetventil (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) ben=F6tigt noch = 2*35328 > > 35327 3/2-Wege Magnetventil (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) benötigt noch 2*35328 29,30c27 > 35328 Schlauchanschluss Magnetventil f=FCr 35327 (lieferbar ab Juni 2= 000) > 35328 Schlauchanschluss Magnetventil für 35327 (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) 32,39c29,32 > = > However, it appears that this part will not be available individually u= ntil > June 2000. In the meantime if you are interested in getting the part it= will > be necessary to order the pneumatic robots set. To make a robot with th= is > > However, it appears that this part will not be available individually until > June 2000. In the meantime if you are interested in getting the part it will > be necessary to order the pneumatic robots set. To make a robot with this 41,44c34,35 > fischertechnik equivalent of the RCX but with four outputs and 10 input= s > (eight digital, two analog)), a "powerblock" (aka battery box), and th= e > fischertechnik equivalent of the RCX but with four outputs and 10 inputs > (eight digital, two analog)), a "powerblock" (aka battery box), and the 46,47c37 > = > 55,56c45 -- = -- 62c51 =2E..where air is power ...where air is power
lugnet.robotics:10211 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 30 Lines: 25 22c23 >=20 > 24,26c25,26 >=20 > 35327 3/2-Wege Magnetventil (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) ben=F6tigt noch= 2*35328 > > 35327 3/2-Wege Magnetventil (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) benötigt noch 2*35328 28,29c28 > 35328 Schlauchanschluss Magnetventil f=FCr 35327 (lieferbar ab Juni= 2000) > 35328 Schlauchanschluss Magnetventil für 35327 (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) 31,35c30,32 >=20 > However, it appears that this part will not be available individually= until > June 2000. In the meantime if you are interested in getting the part it= will > > However, it appears that this part will not be available individually until > June 2000. In the meantime if you are interested in getting the part it will 41c38 >=20 > 44,45c41 think the idea is to adapt the valves for use by the RCX. That is what I= will think the idea is to adapt the valves for use by the RCX. That is what I will 51,52d46
lugnet.robotics:10217 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 23 Lines: 22 19,22c20,23 It's quiet in the house. The children are asleep and I'm surfing the = net. Suddenly one of the robots sitting under my desk comes to life and = speeds away. Then the second one ignites it's main light and chases the = first robot. The two of them have decided to play tag... It's quiet in the house. The children are asleep and I'm surfing the net. Suddenly one of the robots sitting under my desk comes to life and speeds away. Then the second one ignites it's main light and chases the first robot. The two of them have decided to play tag... 24,25c25,26 Nice feature: both robots use the same NQC program (using Dave's Beta2 = version with Scout support). Nice feature: both robots use the same NQC program (using Dave's Beta2 version with Scout support). 29,30c30 Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning in Lego pBricks = www.bvandam.net Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning in Lego pBricks www.bvandam.net
lugnet.robotics:10223 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 59 Lines: 44 21,22c22 > = > 27,28c27 > > 35327 3/2-Wege Magnetventil (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) ben=F6tigt noc= h 2*35328 > > 35327 3/2-Wege Magnetventil (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) benötigt noch 2*35328 30,31c29 > > 35328 Schlauchanschluss Magnetventil f=FCr 35327 (lieferbar ab Juni= 2000) > > 35328 Schlauchanschluss Magnetventil für 35327 (lieferbar ab Juni 2000) 34,39c32,34 > > However, it appears that this part will not be available individually= until > > June 2000. In the meantime if you are interested in getting the part = it will > > be necessary to order the pneumatic robots set. To make a robot with = this > > However, it appears that this part will not be available individually until > > June 2000. In the meantime if you are interested in getting the part it will > > be necessary to order the pneumatic robots set. To make a robot with this 41,44c36,37 > > fischertechnik equivalent of the RCX but with four outputs and 10 inp= uts > > (eight digital, two analog)), a "powerblock" (aka battery box), and = the > > fischertechnik equivalent of the RCX but with four outputs and 10 inputs > > (eight digital, two analog)), a "powerblock" (aka battery box), and the 47,56c40,44 > = > I don't think it will be necessary to buy any other fischertechnik part= s. I > think the idea is to adapt the valves for use by the RCX. That is what = I will > do, just as soon as someone can provide the means by which US residents= can > obtain the parts. I can see ebay flooded with "slightly used fischertec= hnik > > I don't think it will be necessary to buy any other fischertechnik parts. I > think the idea is to adapt the valves for use by the RCX. That is what I will > do, just as soon as someone can provide the means by which US residents can > obtain the parts. I can see ebay flooded with "slightly used fischertechnik 58,59c46 > = > 71,72c58 -- = -- 78c64 =2E..where air is power ...where air is power
lugnet.robotics:10247 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 20,28c21,28 I have tried to compile and run some examples of Francesco Ferrara but = I'm experiencing some strange behaviour from the brick and the system = itself. Therefore I would like to know if someone else is in troubles = like me, to solve togher the problem. I have NT S 4, the code compiles and the downloader reports that = everything has gone good, but if I start the brick I cannot stop it or = power it off. Therefore I have to remove batteries. RCXCC during dowload goes good for a while, then it reports an error, = instead. I have tried to compile and run some examples of Francesco Ferrara but I'm experiencing some strange behaviour from the brick and the system itself. Therefore I would like to know if someone else is in troubles like me, to solve togher the problem. I have NT S 4, the code compiles and the downloader reports that everything has gone good, but if I start the brick I cannot stop it or power it off. Therefore I have to remove batteries. RCXCC during dowload goes good for a while, then it reports an error, instead.
lugnet.robotics:10323 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,24c21,25 is there a command for ncq the lock a motor in place, sorta opposite to = the float command? I have a arm that i have made and it sits sorta like = a crane with a motor to rotate it up and down. Problem is i need it to = stop at the bottom to pick an object and move up and stay locked. I've = used all motors and outputs so i was hoping for a software solution. is there a command for ncq the lock a motor in place, sorta opposite to the float command? I have a arm that i have made and it sits sorta like a crane with a motor to rotate it up and down. Problem is i need it to stop at the bottom to pick an object and move up and stay locked. I've used all motors and outputs so i was hoping for a software solution.
lugnet.robotics:10343 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 27 Lines: 22 20,27c21,24 has anyone thought of an advantage to using two light sensors in the = basic photo scanner robot that people have built. I'm working on one right = now (mostly the vb programming right now for the pc side and pqc for the = rcx). i have two kits to use, so i was wondering if a second light sensor = would has anyone thought of an advantage to using two light sensors in the basic photo scanner robot that people have built. I'm working on one right now (mostly the vb programming right now for the pc side and pqc for the rcx). i have two kits to use, so i was wondering if a second light sensor would 30,31c27 What about 3 sensors with colored filters over them? would you be able = to What about 3 sensors with colored filters over them? would you be able to
lugnet.robotics:10661 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 35 Lines: 29 21,22c22,23 If so, that could sensor be what you say looks like a small lamp (bulb). = It does have a silvery head. If so, that could sensor be what you say looks like a small lamp (bulb). It does have a silvery head. 27c28 ----- Original Message -----=20 ----- Original Message ----- 35,37c36,37 >=20 > In the Danish 2000-catalog the set 3801 Ultimate Accessory is shown. = It > > In the Danish 2000-catalog the set 3801 Ultimate Accessory is shown. It 39,40c39 > see a rotation sensor, a touch sensor and something I believe is a = small > see a rotation sensor, a touch sensor and something I believe is a small 43c42 >=20 > 45,56c44,49 > --=20 > /* Please notice another e-mail address change: Letters must be sent = to=20 > eighter schertz@superbruger.dk (both of us), gandalf@superbruger = (jacob) > or galadriel@superbruger (anne). The @get2net.dk addresses will not = work=20 > anymore (soon). *** Geek by nature - Linux by choice = ***/ >=20 > -- > /* Please notice another e-mail address change: Letters must be sent to > eighter schertz@superbruger.dk (both of us), gandalf@superbruger (jacob) > or galadriel@superbruger (anne). The @get2net.dk addresses will not work > anymore (soon). *** Geek by nature - Linux by choice ***/ >
lugnet.robotics:10678 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 but not nearly as sleek, since I like the=20 but not nearly as sleek, since I like the 32,33c33,34 any other mechanical switch based sensor other than=20 the bumper or the feeler, which can be placed in front of a vehicle.=20 any other mechanical switch based sensor other than the bumper or the feeler, which can be placed in front of a vehicle. 49,51d49
lugnet.robotics:10737 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 61 Lines: 53 26,27c27 > LEGOs will never be obsolete and judging from the previous upgrade from 1= =2E0 > LEGOs will never be obsolete and judging from the previous upgrade from 1.0 29,32c29,30 > power-plug... (I think), and the pic of the ned RCX 2.0, I don't belive t= he > hardware will change from RCX 1.5 to 2.0 (besides the reincarnation of th= e > power-plug... (I think), and the pic of the ned RCX 2.0, I don't belive the > hardware will change from RCX 1.5 to 2.0 (besides the reincarnation of the 34,36c32,34 >=20 > Dang, I hoped for some more I/O ports... =3D( >=20 > > Dang, I hoped for some more I/O ports... =( > 38,39c36,37 >=20 >=20 > > 41,42c39 > Fra: news-gateway@lugnet.com [mailto:news-gateway@lugnet.com]P=E5 vegne a= f > Fra: news-gateway@lugnet.com [mailto:news-gateway@lugnet.com]På vegne af 47,48c44,45 >=20 >=20 > > 50c47 >=20 > 58,60c55,56 >=20 > No real hints as to what's changed - but, maybe the current limitations= of > > No real hints as to what's changed - but, maybe the current limitations of 64,65c60 > of a serial port for the IR tower. I wonder if this is finally the prelu= de > of a serial port for the IR tower. I wonder if this is finally the prelude 67,68c62 > supporting the Macintosh with RIS? All the new Macs are USB, not a seria= l > supporting the Macintosh with RIS? All the new Macs are USB, not a serial 71,72c65 > Great, my two RIS systems will soon be obsolete, the price of those tha= t > Great, my two RIS systems will soon be obsolete, the price of those that 75c68 >=20 > 78,82c71,73 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > >
lugnet.robotics:10785 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 68 Lines: 67 19,22c20,23 Over time a lot of material has been added to my website that doesn't = have anything to do with the real subject: artificial intelligence and = machine learning. So I decided to clean-up. As of march 1st the = following pages will be removed: Over time a lot of material has been added to my website that doesn't have anything to do with the real subject: artificial intelligence and machine learning. So I decided to clean-up. As of march 1st the following pages will be removed: 35c36 =20 53c54 =20 56c57 =20 60,70c61,70 So almost everything but the AI section. Ofcourse new pages will be = added, but the focus will entirely be on articial inteligence and = machine learning. In fact the whole thing will be redesigned, and I'm = sure you'll like the new site. If you want any information off the pages = that will be removed now is the time to do so.=20 =20 Please note that even though I remove the pages and practically invite = you to copy them the rights still belong to me and you cannot use = anything without propper reference. Commercial use is strictly = prohibited no matter what. =20 So almost everything but the AI section. Ofcourse new pages will be added, but the focus will entirely be on articial inteligence and machine learning. In fact the whole thing will be redesigned, and I'm sure you'll like the new site. If you want any information off the pages that will be removed now is the time to do so. Please note that even though I remove the pages and practically invite you to copy them the rights still belong to me and you cannot use anything without propper reference. Commercial use is strictly prohibited no matter what. 73c73 =20 76,77c76,77 =20 =20
lugnet.robotics:10927 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 44 Lines: 43 21,27c22,28 Actually, the datatype is VARIANT, which is a typedef around a struct = that's used to support a slew of datatypes in a single type. The struct = contains a member "vt" that describes the datatype of the data that's = stored in the variant. Based on the value of "vt", the actual data will = have a name corresponding to the type. For example, if vt is VT_BYREF | = VT_BSTR, the data is a BSTR stored via a pointer as pbstrVal (eg. BSTR * = pbstrVal). A float would be of type VT_R4 stored as fltVal, etc. Actually, the datatype is VARIANT, which is a typedef around a struct that's used to support a slew of datatypes in a single type. The struct contains a member "vt" that describes the datatype of the data that's stored in the variant. Based on the value of "vt", the actual data will have a name corresponding to the type. For example, if vt is VT_BYREF | VT_BSTR, the data is a BSTR stored via a pointer as pbstrVal (eg. BSTR * pbstrVal). A float would be of type VT_R4 stored as fltVal, etc. 29,35c30,35 Bottom line is you need the Microsoft Platform SDK doc on OLE automation = to really get the idea. As for what UploadDatalog returns, you have to = kind of piece things together. The spirit.ocx Tech Reference states = that it returns TRUE if it works, FALSE if it fails. This implies a = VARIANT type of VT_BOOL which means that the returned variant's value is = boolVal, of type VARIANT_BOOL which MSBorg documents as being set to = either VARIANT_TRUE or VARIANT_FALSE. Bottom line is you need the Microsoft Platform SDK doc on OLE automation to really get the idea. As for what UploadDatalog returns, you have to kind of piece things together. The spirit.ocx Tech Reference states that it returns TRUE if it works, FALSE if it fails. This implies a VARIANT type of VT_BOOL which means that the returned variant's value is boolVal, of type VARIANT_BOOL which MSBorg documents as being set to either VARIANT_TRUE or VARIANT_FALSE. 37,38c37,38 So, a possible chunk of code for checking the return from UploadDatalog = might look like this: So, a possible chunk of code for checking the return from UploadDatalog might look like this: 40,41c40,41 VARIANT retVariant =3D UploadDatalog(From, Size); if (retVariant.boolVal =3D=3D VARIANT_TRUE) VARIANT retVariant = UploadDatalog(From, Size); if (retVariant.boolVal == VARIANT_TRUE)
lugnet.robotics:10971 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 21 Lines: 19 19,20c20 There IS a lego universal joint. Used commonly in steering systems on = many There IS a lego universal joint. Used commonly in steering systems on many 23,24c23 One type of worm gear assembly (separate question) is found in about = =BD the One type of worm gear assembly (separate question) is found in about ½ the 39,40c38 =09
lugnet.robotics:11042 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 49 Lines: 48 19c20 =20 23,37c24,37 Hello, I am writing in regards to personally invite you to our upcoming = *Kit* trade show in December . We will be displaying Kits of ALL types = at our show, Kit cars, Kit airplanes, Educational Kits, Robotics Kits, = Log cabin home kits, etc. If it's a Kit, we want to have it at our show. = We also would like to help promote and distribute your product(s). You = can visit our newly designed website at http://www.kitworldintl.com If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to = contact us at anytime at 1- (972) 253-0402. We here at DSE Enterprises, = Inc. hope to welcome you aboard our growing community of kit companies = worldwide. Also if possible, we would like to *link* up to your site & = vise versa. We have also started an online 'Kit' mall in which vendors = can join. Presently, there is no fee for entering into the mall. Hope = to hear from you soon and thank you for your time. Please post this = mailing on your list, thanks. Hello, I am writing in regards to personally invite you to our upcoming *Kit* trade show in December . We will be displaying Kits of ALL types at our show, Kit cars, Kit airplanes, Educational Kits, Robotics Kits, Log cabin home kits, etc. If it's a Kit, we want to have it at our show. We also would like to help promote and distribute your product(s). You can visit our newly designed website at http://www.kitworldintl.com If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at anytime at 1- (972) 253-0402. We here at DSE Enterprises, Inc. hope to welcome you aboard our growing community of kit companies worldwide. Also if possible, we would like to *link* up to your site & vise versa. We have also started an online 'Kit' mall in which vendors can join. Presently, there is no fee for entering into the mall. Hope to hear from you soon and thank you for your time. Please post this mailing on your list, thanks. 42,43c42,43 www.kitworldintl.com=20 E-Mail : Kitworld@gte.net=20 www.kitworldintl.com E-Mail : Kitworld@gte.net
lugnet.robotics:11053 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Can anybody tell me what the light sensor values are for all the colors = it is able to detect or even where i can get this info? Can anybody tell me what the light sensor values are for all the colors it is able to detect or even where i can get this info? 23c24 =20
lugnet.robotics:11061 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 19,25c20,25 I am developing a GUI in Visual Basic to control the RCX realtime. I = have kind of run into a snag though and I could use some help. Right = now I have 2 RCX which I am trying to control. The problem I am not = sure how to control each RCX separately. If I want to control Motor1 on = RCX1 I will also turn on Motor1 of RCX2. Is there a way out of this??? = Is it possible to talk to only one RCX at a time?? Is there a way to = specify the RCX I want to talk to?? =20 I am developing a GUI in Visual Basic to control the RCX realtime. I have kind of run into a snag though and I could use some help. Right now I have 2 RCX which I am trying to control. The problem I am not sure how to control each RCX separately. If I want to control Motor1 on RCX1 I will also turn on Motor1 of RCX2. Is there a way out of this??? Is it possible to talk to only one RCX at a time?? Is there a way to specify the RCX I want to talk to??
lugnet.robotics:11084 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,22c20,23 I have found that a good share of the lego robots that I wish to build = will require chain links. Lego used to sell these as #5278. It seems = that they are no longer available. Does anyone know where a person can = order a large number of these? I have found that a good share of the lego robots that I wish to build will require chain links. Lego used to sell these as #5278. It seems that they are no longer available. Does anyone know where a person can order a large number of these?
lugnet.robotics:11086 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 61 Lines: 58 23,25c24,26 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Kelly=20 To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Kelly To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 30,31c31,32 =20 To whom it may concern, ( please post this mailing on your lego list ) = To whom it may concern, ( please post this mailing on your lego list ) 34,50c35,48 Hello, I am writing in regards to personally invite you to our = upcoming *Kit* trade show in December . We will be displaying Kits of = ALL types at our show, Kit cars, Kit airplanes, Educational Kits, = Robotics Kits, Log cabin home kits, etc. If it's a Kit, we want to have = it at our show. We also would like to help promote and distribute your = product(s). You can visit our newly designed website at = http://www.kitworldintl.com If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to = contact us at anytime at 1- (972) 253-0402. We here at DSE Enterprises, = Inc. hope to welcome you aboard our growing community of kit companies = worldwide. Also if possible, we would like to *link* up to your site & = vise versa. We have also started an online 'Kit' mall in which vendors = can join. Presently, there is no fee for entering into the mall. Hope = to hear from you soon and thank you for your time. Please post this = mailing on your list, thanks. Hello, I am writing in regards to personally invite you to our upcoming *Kit* trade show in December . We will be displaying Kits of ALL types at our show, Kit cars, Kit airplanes, Educational Kits, Robotics Kits, Log cabin home kits, etc. If it's a Kit, we want to have it at our show. We also would like to help promote and distribute your product(s). You can visit our newly designed website at http://www.kitworldintl.com If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at anytime at 1- (972) 253-0402. We here at DSE Enterprises, Inc. hope to welcome you aboard our growing community of kit companies worldwide. Also if possible, we would like to *link* up to your site & vise versa. We have also started an online 'Kit' mall in which vendors can join. Presently, there is no fee for entering into the mall. Hope to hear from you soon and thank you for your time. Please post this mailing on your list, thanks. 55,56c53,54 www.kitworldintl.com=20 E-Mail : Kitworld@gte.net=20 www.kitworldintl.com E-Mail : Kitworld@gte.net
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lugnet.robotics:11190 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 67 Lines: 61 39,40c40 There are also home brew sensors afoot as well. Do a web search for these= =20 There are also home brew sensors afoot as well. Do a web search for these 43c43 Note that thru Dacta, there are more (and expensive) sensors available=20 Note that thru Dacta, there are more (and expensive) sensors available 46,54c46,51 The RCX has only 3 sensor input ports. When you start surfing the web=20 pages on home-brew sensors, you'll find some clever designs on how to hook= =20 up more than three sensors at one time. Also note that you are not really= =20 limited to the number of RCX's you can play with at one time. After=20 reading Dave Baum's most excellent "Definitive Guide to LEGO Mindstorms"=20 book [appropriate (R)s and (tm)s where necessary] I went out and purchased= =20 The RCX has only 3 sensor input ports. When you start surfing the web pages on home-brew sensors, you'll find some clever designs on how to hook up more than three sensors at one time. Also note that you are not really limited to the number of RCX's you can play with at one time. After reading Dave Baum's most excellent "Definitive Guide to LEGO Mindstorms" book [appropriate (R)s and (tm)s where necessary] I went out and purchased 74,75c71 >`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF`=B7._.=B7= =B4=AF`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF >`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯ 83,84c79 >`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF`=B7._.=B7= =B4=AF`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF`=B7._.=B7=B4=AF >`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯`·._.·´¯ 89,90d83
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lugnet.robotics:11440 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 38 Lines: 37 21,22c22 I use a Linuxbox to get rid of viruses before they reach my Windoze = systems ;) I use a Linuxbox to get rid of viruses before they reach my Windoze systems ;) 27c27 ----- Original Message -----=20 ----- Original Message ----- 36,39c36,39 > >Heh, heh, heh...Why use anything less? Too many viruses floating = around made the > >choice easy for me. Graphics and educational resources also spurred = my decision, > >Heh, heh, heh...Why use anything less? Too many viruses floating around made > >the > >choice easy for me. Graphics and educational resources also spurred my > >decision, 43c43 >=20 > 50c50 >=20 > 54c54 > procedure now, <G> =20 > procedure now, <G> 58,60c58 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:11442 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 45 Lines: 39 26,28c27,28 shows to the user if he has control or not. After leaving the Applet = Page another User has the chance to get connection.=20 shows to the user if he has control or not. After leaving the Applet Page another User has the chance to get connection. 35c35 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 43,44c43 > We were thinking of using a railroad track. Fortunately we can punch = many > We were thinking of using a railroad track. Fortunately we can punch many 46,47c45 > sounds similar to yours. THe basic idea is a dynamic web-presence for = the > sounds similar to yours. THe basic idea is a dynamic web-presence for the 50,55c48,50 I'd love to hear how you are dealing with the interface on the Internet. = If your allowing users to control it. I've been having a hard time getting = something to work where multiple users would not make it just 'buzz' on the spot from = getting I'd love to hear how you are dealing with the interface on the Internet. If your allowing users to control it. I've been having a hard time getting something to work where multiple users would not make it just 'buzz' on the spot from getting 63d57
lugnet.robotics:11590 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,22c20,23 I am living in Hong Kong, unfortunately, there are only a few parts and = kits in TRU here. I check both TRU online and Lego Hong Kong, all of them didn't sell = parts in Hong Kong. I am living in Hong Kong, unfortunately, there are only a few parts and kits in TRU here. I check both TRU online and Lego Hong Kong, all of them didn't sell parts in Hong Kong.
lugnet.robotics:11615 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 19,22c20,22 I sincerely apologize for the delay. I had been out of the country and = have now finally settled in for the summer. I have posted the = information on my Artificial Intelligence Project online at my = website... I sincerely apologize for the delay. I had been out of the country and have now finally settled in for the summer. I have posted the information on my Artificial Intelligence Project online at my website...
lugnet.robotics:11755 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 I seek drivers or documentation, to use the transmitter IR of the lego = in personnel applications. I seek drivers or documentation, to use the transmitter IR of the lego in personnel applications. 25c26 Can you help me?=20 Can you help me?
lugnet.robotics:11776 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 35c36 =46rom there your PC can just chew through the list of vectors and From there your PC can just chew through the list of vectors and 45,46d45
lugnet.robotics:11792 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,22c20,23 I am sure that many people have run into the same problems storing their = enormous lego collections. I am looking for some ideas on large = containers that work well for storing a sorted collection. I was = considering tool boxes and fishing boxes, but I would need quite a few. I am sure that many people have run into the same problems storing their enormous lego collections. I am looking for some ideas on large containers that work well for storing a sorted collection. I was considering tool boxes and fishing boxes, but I would need quite a few.
lugnet.robotics:11833 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Does anyone know of a glue that works on the pneumatic hoses? I am = trying to attach them to suction cups so that I can make a window = washing robot, but nothing I have tried seems to bond. Does anyone know of a glue that works on the pneumatic hoses? I am trying to attach them to suction cups so that I can make a window washing robot, but nothing I have tried seems to bond.
lugnet.robotics:11834 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,23c21,24 How about cutting a short piece from one of those stiff Lego pipes. = Pneumatic hoses slip onto these for a tight fit. Then drill a small hole = for the pipe (not the hose) into the back of the suction cup, and insert = the other end of the pipe into the suction cup.=20 How about cutting a short piece from one of those stiff Lego pipes. Pneumatic hoses slip onto these for a tight fit. Then drill a small hole for the pipe (not the hose) into the back of the suction cup, and insert the other end of the pipe into the suction cup. 29,31c30,32 Does anyone know of a glue that works on the pneumatic hoses? I am = trying to attach them to suction cups so that I can make a window = washing robot, but nothing I have tried seems to bond. Does anyone know of a glue that works on the pneumatic hoses? I am trying to attach them to suction cups so that I can make a window washing robot, but nothing I have tried seems to bond.
lugnet.robotics:11842 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 19,23c20,23 I am looking to drive six motors off of one RCX. This can be done with = several of the multiplexer designs that I have seen, but there is one = problem with them. That is, you are in control of two of the motors at = best. While you are controlling these two motors the others are = spinning down. =20 I am looking to drive six motors off of one RCX. This can be done with several of the multiplexer designs that I have seen, but there is one problem with them. That is, you are in control of two of the motors at best. While you are controlling these two motors the others are spinning down. 25,27c25,27 I am wondering if anyone has any input on a design that would continue = to drive motors that you are not "in control of" at the moment at = whatever voltage they were last driven at. I am wondering if anyone has any input on a design that would continue to drive motors that you are not "in control of" at the moment at whatever voltage they were last driven at.
lugnet.robotics:11849 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 13 Lines: 12 19,20c20 Was it this one: = http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/markov/lego/tips/bumper1/index.html Was it this one: http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/markov/lego/tips/bumper1/index.html
lugnet.robotics:11887 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 36 20,25c21,25 Is there a way to make lego interact with the computer?? like for = example if i press the touch sensor and at the same moment it should = show in my desktop if the sensor is pressed or depressed ?? same with light sensors if there is an obstacle immediatly by the infra = red port it will comunucate with the computer and show that the sensor = is intrupted.. Is there a way to make lego interact with the computer?? like for example if i press the touch sensor and at the same moment it should show in my desktop if the sensor is pressed or depressed ?? same with light sensors if there is an obstacle immediatly by the infra red port it will comunucate with the computer and show that the sensor is intrupted.. 29,38c29,37 1) With such applications we can make home automation easy and can = design a picture of the full house and place it in the desk top as a = picture( we can futer modify the visual apperance to 3d) then if i put a = touch sensor to the door and someone opens the rcx will send the signal = to the computer via the infra red port and on my screen the door will = open with a visual and audio so i know that some one has opened the = door.. 2) you can controll the other way round also . by clicking the = screen say on a light then the hot spot on the picture will trigger the = rcx and switch on the light. 1) With such applications we can make home automation easy and can design a picture of the full house and place it in the desk top as a picture( we can futer modify the visual apperance to 3d) then if i put a touch sensor to the door and someone opens the rcx will send the signal to the computer via the infra red port and on my screen the door will open with a visual and audio so i know that some one has opened the door.. 2) you can controll the other way round also . by clicking the screen say on a light then the hot spot on the picture will trigger the rcx and switch on the light. 40,41c39,40 these are very simple but i want to use visual basic so design is easy = do you know a way of the above two application??? these are very simple but i want to use visual basic so design is easy do you know a way of the above two application??? 45c44 from=20 from
lugnet.robotics:11906 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 19,27c20,27 HI There=20 Do You guys know how to increase the range of the infra red sensor to = above 5 feet , if its an external circuit which I have to connect it = does not matter ,=20 can some one send me the circuit so i can use the infra red sensor to = sense a object at a range of 5-10 feet and if it comes in the = adjustable range it should give a audiable beep. it does not have to be = a part of lego. it should work freely also. waiting for a reply=20 HI There Do You guys know how to increase the range of the infra red sensor to above 5 feet , if its an external circuit which I have to connect it does not matter , can some one send me the circuit so i can use the infra red sensor to sense a object at a range of 5-10 feet and if it comes in the adjustable range it should give a audiable beep. it does not have to be a part of lego. it should work freely also. waiting for a reply
lugnet.robotics:11917 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 32 Lines: 31 20,23c21,24 As with all light you could use a lens to focus the IR beam (you can set = this up using a cam-corder to view the optimal positioning), you can = also use mirrors to create three beams (a mirror either side). If you = use both you should exceed 5 feet. try it with your TV remote. As with all light you could use a lens to focus the IR beam (you can set this up using a cam-corder to view the optimal positioning), you can also use mirrors to create three beams (a mirror either side). If you use both you should exceed 5 feet. try it with your TV remote. 25,28c26,29 Rob =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: rohanpatel=20 To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: rohanpatel To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 33,41c34,41 HI There=20 Do You guys know how to increase the range of the infra red sensor to = above 5 feet , if its an external circuit which I have to connect it = does not matter ,=20 can some one send me the circuit so i can use the infra red sensor to = sense a object at a range of 5-10 feet and if it comes in the = adjustable range it should give a audiable beep. it does not have to be = a part of lego. it should work freely also. waiting for a reply=20 HI There Do You guys know how to increase the range of the infra red sensor to above 5 feet , if its an external circuit which I have to connect it does not matter , can some one send me the circuit so i can use the infra red sensor to sense a object at a range of 5-10 feet and if it comes in the adjustable range it should give a audiable beep. it does not have to be a part of lego. it should work freely also. waiting for a reply
lugnet.robotics:11928 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 21 Lines: 20 19,27c20,27 My company manufactures a tracking system for environmental surveying. = It is a complement to GPS for use in wooded areas and indoors. I have not worked with the RCX controller, but I am considering = developing a very lightweight and inexpensive (~$200) tracking and = control system for RCX controlled robots. The system would track the = robot throughout a 20 ft x 20 ft room at a 1 Hz rate with an accuracy of = 1-2 inches. In principle, the system could also permit the computer to = send control signals to the RCX to keep it on a predefined path, for = instance. Is there any interest in such a system? My company manufactures a tracking system for environmental surveying. It is a complement to GPS for use in wooded areas and indoors. I have not worked with the RCX controller, but I am considering developing a very lightweight and inexpensive (~$200) tracking and control system for RCX controlled robots. The system would track the robot throughout a 20 ft x 20 ft room at a 1 Hz rate with an accuracy of 1-2 inches. In principle, the system could also permit the computer to send control signals to the RCX to keep it on a predefined path, for instance. Is there any interest in such a system?
lugnet.robotics:11959 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 85 Lines: 78 19,20c20,21 My 1st step to make robots with artificial intelligence giving them the = power of learning and experience as a human by Dr. G.I.Patel My 1st step to make robots with artificial intelligence giving them the power of learning and experience as a human by Dr. G.I.Patel 22c23 Dear Friends=20 Dear Friends 24,42c25,41 I Hope all of you in this community Help each other as no single brain = can have a solution to make a full fledged robot with an ability of a = human ( these ideas can be used not only for designing of human based = robots but also any thing you can think like creatures, = navigators(explores) as I thought the best way to make any thing = functional and can be used widely is to imitate the human as the human = can perform different tasks with our senses ( by this way step by step = we can make a single robot with multiple abilities.)=20 Thought there are a lot of functions which other creatures have we can = replace it my imitating them like for example giving power of an = ultrasound sensor (like bats) or give our robots a better way to walk = (Humans can stand and walk in 2 legs but only if conscious if the mind = is unconscious he will fall ) so in our robots design we will not use = legs there will be lack of balance if there is two so we will use a = different method we found to be most useful and best to let it move in = accuracy . existing robots drive through motors and we will use the same = . humans have many good as well as bad points we omit the bad points and = replace it with other creatures good points. I Hope all of you in this community Help each other as no single brain can have a solution to make a full fledged robot with an ability of a human ( these ideas can be used not only for designing of human based robots but also any thing you can think like creatures, navigators(explores) as I thought the best way to make any thing functional and can be used widely is to imitate the human as the human can perform different tasks with our senses ( by this way step by step we can make a single robot with multiple abilities.) Thought there are a lot of functions which other creatures have we can replace it my imitating them like for example giving power of an ultrasound sensor (like bats) or give our robots a better way to walk (Humans can stand and walk in 2 legs but only if conscious if the mind is unconscious he will fall ) so in our robots design we will not use legs there will be lack of balance if there is two so we will use a different method we found to be most useful and best to let it move in accuracy . existing robots drive through motors and we will use the same . humans have many good as well as bad points we omit the bad points and replace it with other creatures good points. 46,60c45,56 Now in this world no two person can have the same exact thoughts if a = program is given a program to be developed in a group of 100 each of = them will differ in the way they write their code as each and every = person has a different logic and reasoning, they develop their own art = of logic and reasoning by the environment and memories of the past , so = no two human thoughts will be same. If ever out of a group of 100 person 3-4 people write nearly the same = logic and codes then that group of people will match very high mentally = and can design a lot of new things in a group as they have the same = thought process. So in that similar way we need a group of people who can help each other = and make wonderful creations. Hope all of you will help me and each = other to do so. Now in this world no two person can have the same exact thoughts if a program is given a program to be developed in a group of 100 each of them will differ in the way they write their code as each and every person has a different logic and reasoning, they develop their own art of logic and reasoning by the environment and memories of the past , so no two human thoughts will be same. If ever out of a group of 100 person 3-4 people write nearly the same logic and codes then that group of people will match very high mentally and can design a lot of new things in a group as they have the same thought process. So in that similar way we need a group of people who can help each other and make wonderful creations. Hope all of you will help me and each other to do so. 64,77c60,72 Where it is possible to share and get all the difficulties we face as = here is the place you can ask questions and get replies and even give = your ideas and do a lot more here. Please let me know how many of you are in my way of thinking. There may = be many who are robot masters with their many creations and many = students so all of them will differ, and some members may say this is = easy task , and if so please come out with your ideas and views and for = those who are starters will think it really fantastic to have such robot = never heard of.. So do write to me how many of you are interested in making a full = fledged robot with artificial intelligence and perform task like Humans = giving them the power of experience and memory like humans. Where it is possible to share and get all the difficulties we face as here is the place you can ask questions and get replies and even give your ideas and do a lot more here. Please let me know how many of you are in my way of thinking. There may be many who are robot masters with their many creations and many students so all of them will differ, and some members may say this is easy task , and if so please come out with your ideas and views and for those who are starters will think it really fantastic to have such robot never heard of.. So do write to me how many of you are interested in making a full fledged robot with artificial intelligence and perform task like Humans giving them the power of experience and memory like humans. 79c74 Hoping for a reply from all of you=20 Hoping for a reply from all of you 81,82c76 Wishing all of you all the best for making your new creations come to = life. Wishing all of you all the best for making your new creations come to life. 92c86 See the next mail for the 1st mission=20 See the next mail for the 1st mission
lugnet.robotics:11982 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 63 Lines: 57 20,22c21,22 I request people who have gone out for vaction to check out their mails = and give their view and ideas regarding these series of making of Human = like robots. I request people who have gone out for vaction to check out their mails and give their view and ideas regarding these series of making of Human like robots. 26,29c26,29 Regarding this mission I had started from the brain 1st and not first = making the physical part and adding sensors and then programming is = because when a child is evovled in the womb it first develops the brain = then slowly the other organs and the the physical part Regarding this mission I had started from the brain 1st and not first making the physical part and adding sensors and then programming is because when a child is evovled in the womb it first develops the brain then slowly the other organs and the the physical part 31c31 the Human brain consists of=20 the Human brain consists of 33,35c33 1) WILL - our will to do something , for eg:- the will of oneself to = be famous, or rich , or make something etc, is the higest = of importace . the stimulus to do something . 1) WILL - our will to do something , for eg:- the will of oneself to be famous, or rich , or make something etc, is the higest of importace . the stimulus to do something . 37,38c35 2) EMOTIONS - the emotions like feelings , of love , hatred , weeping, = Fear etc 2) EMOTIONS - the emotions like feelings , of love , hatred , weeping, Fear etc 40,41c37,38 3) INTELLECT/UNDERSTANDING - the intelligence, and understanding of a = person regarding the enviroment and oneself 3) INTELLECT/UNDERSTANDING - the intelligence, and understanding of a person regarding the enviroment and oneself 43,44c40 4) MEMORY - the memories of past and present (long term and short term = memories) 4) MEMORY - the memories of past and present (long term and short term memories) 48,52c44,47 now in our robots we can give it only things from the lowest ie memory = the higher ones are more complicated and difficult to work out=20 In future if we have the robots with all the above properties then they = would be like humans but giving a machine a will and emotions is very = very difficult. now in our robots we can give it only things from the lowest ie memory the higher ones are more complicated and difficult to work out In future if we have the robots with all the above properties then they would be like humans but giving a machine a will and emotions is very very difficult. 54,55c49,50 right now we can give only give step by step by reverse order the = physical body with all sensors=20 right now we can give only give step by step by reverse order the physical body with all sensors 66c61 =20
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lugnet.robotics:12155 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,22c20,23 Any one has got 3d lego models??? or a site where i can get them ??? i'm = making virutal reality of lego parts and can now=20 give live stimulation of your models . with any view of them , u need a = vrml browser... Any one has got 3d lego models??? or a site where i can get them ??? i'm making virutal reality of lego parts and can now give live stimulation of your models . with any view of them , u need a vrml browser...
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lugnet.robotics:12177 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 50 Lines: 46 21,27c22,24 ive been try ing to increase the sensers of the robots presently the = available sensors found are only for 1-2 feet=20 i'm making an ultrasound sensor circuit which can sense for about 7-8 = feet and more if the sensors are arranged proberly...ive made it and am = connecting it to the robot it will be done in a day or two and then will = give you the circuit digram for those who are intrested it would cost = only $10 if you made it yourself.=20 ive been try ing to increase the sensers of the robots presently the available sensors found are only for 1-2 feet i'm making an ultrasound sensor circuit which can sense for about 7-8 feet and more if the sensors are arranged proberly...ive made it and am connecting it to the robot it will be done in a day or two and then will give you the circuit digram for those who are intrested it would cost only $10 if you made it yourself. 32,34c29,31 =20 i'm more intrested in the microwave sensor can you tell me more about it = and the maximum distance it may sense i'm more intrested in the microwave sensor can you tell me more about it and the maximum distance it may sense 36,38c33,35 and has any one got 3d digrams of lego parts or a site i can get it ??? = then by this all our task will be easy for showing the model to any one = as it would me in 3d can any one help??? and has any one got 3d digrams of lego parts or a site i can get it ??? then by this all our task will be easy for showing the model to any one as it would me in 3d can any one help??? 40,42c37,39 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Yiu=20 To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Yiu To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 49c46 =20 54c51 =20 57c54 =20 59c56 =20
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lugnet.robotics:12218 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 29 19,22c20,23 HI there=20 Ive got a cam linked to the pc i am using it with the lego linkled to = the pc with wires. and can guide it by looking at the screen .now i want = to give it image recogination HI there Ive got a cam linked to the pc i am using it with the lego linkled to the pc with wires. and can guide it by looking at the screen .now i want to give it image recogination 24,28c25,28 does any one know how to recoginise images?? or just edges?? for = starting?=20 actually right now what i do is i can make it go around and i guide it = with nqc 's joystick control, in an small window in the computer is the = live image of what the lego sees. does any one know how to recoginise images?? or just edges?? for starting? actually right now what i do is i can make it go around and i guide it with nqc 's joystick control, in an small window in the computer is the live image of what the lego sees. 31,32c31 and i want to make it be autonomus and let it recoginise its own = enviroment. and i want to make it be autonomus and let it recoginise its own enviroment. 34,35c33,34 so how to link it to the computer so that it can recoginise colors, or = edges etc??? so how to link it to the computer so that it can recoginise colors, or edges etc??? 37,40c36,38 then if this is possiable=20 then=20 you can let it recognice objects, colors, images , and will help in = navigation. then if this is possiable then you can let it recognice objects, colors, images , and will help in navigation.
lugnet.robotics:12220 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 The beta version of the RIS 2.0 ATLClient software, firmware can i use = it with lego RCX ver 1.0 ????how?? The beta version of the RIS 2.0 ATLClient software, firmware can i use it with lego RCX ver 1.0 ????how??
lugnet.robotics:12236 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 Its really a pain to change them .So I was wondering if there was=20 Its really a pain to change them .So I was wondering if there was 31d31
lugnet.robotics:12261 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 problem is that I=B4m afraid there might be language clash with the already problem is that I´m afraid there might be language clash with the already 27,29c28,30 software. Does anyone have experience with that? It=B4s not *sooo* important as i use NQC anyway but I=B4d at least have a look at the nifty Quicktime movies that I=B4m paying for... ;) software. Does anyone have experience with that? It´s not *sooo* important as i use NQC anyway but I´d at least have a look at the nifty Quicktime movies that I´m paying for... ;) 32d32
lugnet.robotics:12264 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 Not just that, I=B4m thinking about building a robot-chameleon that changes Not just that, I´m thinking about building a robot-chameleon that changes 26c27 like the advertisement banners you see on soccer fields)! ;) Heck, it=B4d be like the advertisement banners you see on soccer fields)! ;) Heck, it´d be 31c32 btw, I=B4m new to Mindstorms and the list and I want to thank all the people btw, I´m new to Mindstorms and the list and I want to thank all the people 35,36c36 Andreas=20 Andreas
lugnet.robotics:12274 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Hi There , below is a mail i got=20 Hi There , below is a mail i got 37c38 This project seems very intresting=20 This project seems very intresting 39,40c40,41 what are the requirments and how will the lego detect the signals?? from = the ball???the programming bit also. what are the requirments and how will the lego detect the signals?? from the ball???the programming bit also.
lugnet.robotics:12325 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 32c33 them in the lab... ;) ) and they said that at least in Germany they=B4ll them in the lab... ;) ) and they said that at least in Germany they´ll 37,38c38,39 packing, now it seems they=B4re working on automated packing according to your order. I don=B4t know how good that service will be (is it like what packing, now it seems they´re working on automated packing according to your order. I don´t know how good that service will be (is it like what 40c41 service packs.=20 service packs. 43,44c44 up on essentials while they=B4re still available... ;)=20 up on essentials while they´re still available... ;)
lugnet.robotics:12339 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23,24c24 but I haven=B4t been able to find the tanks anywhere... but I haven´t been able to find the tanks anywhere...
lugnet.robotics:12355 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 14 Lines: 12 22,23c23 >could go to Toys-R-Us or elsewhere and get a bucket of *all kinds* of= bricks. >could go to Toys-R-Us or elsewhere and get a bucket of *all kinds* of bricks. 25,26c25 >robots fall apart due to poor fit. (I have to decide if I like= multicolored >robots fall apart due to poor fit. (I have to decide if I like multicolored 29c28 We=B4re using Lego Basics sets here in the lab (as moulds for ceramic slip We´re using Lego Basics sets here in the lab (as moulds for ceramic slip 33c32 Sounds pretty good to me, though I don=B4t know if they differ from the Sounds pretty good to me, though I don´t know if they differ from the 35d33
lugnet.robotics:12373 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 is the key word... :(=20 is the key word... :( 29c30 >members.=20 >members. 32,33c33 printing, I=B4m sure any plain carton box would be ok with us!=20 printing, I´m sure any plain carton box would be ok with us!
lugnet.robotics:12374 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 48 Lines: 34 19,29c20,25 But what if I don't want or need pumps and blue tanks this month? And = how many months will I wait till my favourite parts are featured? Why not = if all people in this group go and think of what they want and make a wish = list? For instance, I can make a list of at least 2000 part pieces I would = want of about 150-200 different types, like worm gears, I have only two. I = don't really need wheels and why would I diff boxes? I have 7 already.=20 But what if I don't want or need pumps and blue tanks this month? And how many months will I wait till my favourite parts are featured? Why not if all people in this group go and think of what they want and make a wish list? For instance, I can make a list of at least 2000 part pieces I would want of about 150-200 different types, like worm gears, I have only two. I don't really need wheels and why would I diff boxes? I have 7 already. 33,34c29 pieces. Or else, these new packs look quite cool maybe we will have to = buy pieces. Or else, these new packs look quite cool maybe we will have to buy 37c32 Conrad=20 Conrad 43c38 Subject: RE: Lego bulk (was :I am an Idiot (was Pneumatics Are Back!) ) = Subject: RE: Lego bulk (was :I am an Idiot (was Pneumatics Are Back!) ) 46,51c41,43 All this is a very good idea! Yesterday I wanted to stock up on all = single pumps and pistons that I knew a store in the city had on stock, well, = had is the key word... :(=20 All this is a very good idea! Yesterday I wanted to stock up on all single pumps and pistons that I knew a store in the city had on stock, well, had is the key word... :( 54,66c46,50 >shipment. Let's say this month is pneumatic compressor pumps and blue = air >tanks... each club would take orders from its members, and TLG could = ship >only to the clubs, cutting down significantly on the shipment = preparation >and shipping cost; the clubs would distribute the bulk shipments to = their >members.=20 Another small bit: They would not have to spend much on package design = and printing, I=B4m sure any plain carton box would be ok with us!=20 >shipment. Let's say this month is pneumatic compressor pumps and blue air >tanks... each club would take orders from its members, and TLG could ship >only to the clubs, cutting down significantly on the shipment preparation >and shipping cost; the clubs would distribute the bulk shipments to their >members. 67a52,53 Another small bit: They would not have to spend much on package design and printing, I´m sure any plain carton box would be ok with us!
lugnet.robotics:12375 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 13 Lines: 12 22c23 Germany about single parts ordering and they said they=B4d do it for special Germany about single parts ordering and they said they´d do it for special 25,27c26,27 to get Basics sets. But I=B4d happily pay that premium on air tanks and stuff... ;) Now we=B4d just have to convince them that it=B4s a special= purpose!=20 to get Basics sets. But I´d happily pay that premium on air tanks and stuff... ;) Now we´d just have to convince them that it´s a special purpose! 29c29 Another thing, I=B4ve never had any pneumatics and would be very grateful if Another thing, I´ve never had any pneumatics and would be very grateful if 31c31 that I=B4d try my luck with Lego Germany and see where it goes... that I´d try my luck with Lego Germany and see where it goes... 34d33
lugnet.robotics:12390 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 34 Lines: 30 21,28c22,27 >I have been reading this thread with great interest and I think I have=20 >come up with a possibel solution to some of the problem. What if we held= =20 >swaps or had a board for trading? I know I have pieces that I dont want=20 >such as the bug wings and the dragon wings but I would like more long=20 >flat pieces.... If someone gets the pnuematic kit and decides they arent= =20 >going to use the little pieces maybe they could trade with someone who=20 >I have been reading this thread with great interest and I think I have >come up with a possibel solution to some of the problem. What if we held >swaps or had a board for trading? I know I have pieces that I dont want >such as the bug wings and the dragon wings but I would like more long >flat pieces.... If someone gets the pnuematic kit and decides they arent >going to use the little pieces maybe they could trade with someone who 33c32 Good idea in principle but I see some difficulties with this:=20 Good idea in principle but I see some difficulties with this: 36,37c35 needed for the current project, they=B4ll sure come in handy at some point..= . needed for the current project, they´ll sure come in handy at some point... 41,42c39,40 b) We=B4d need some web-based forum for the trade with a offered/wanted section that someone would have to set up.=20 b) We´d need some web-based forum for the trade with a offered/wanted section that someone would have to set up. 44,46c42,43 c) It=B4s only worth to trade in bigger quantities because of shipping costs= . People that can share personally probably do that already... ;)=20 c) It´s only worth to trade in bigger quantities because of shipping costs. People that can share personally probably do that already... ;) 55d51
lugnet.robotics:12395 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,23c21,24 1) Ive got The lego mindstorms VER 1 and want to get a second RCX , now = available is the rcx v1.5 , can i use it with my lego ver 1 cd will = it cominucate with the Rcx 1.5 , will there be any error in = communicating with one another as it is a diffrent version ?? 1) Ive got The lego mindstorms VER 1 and want to get a second RCX , now available is the rcx v1.5 , can i use it with my lego ver 1 cd will it cominucate with the Rcx 1.5 , will there be any error in communicating with one another as it is a diffrent version ?? 25,30c26,31 2) As the motors are weak to lift a load , for example if i made a hand = and want to grip an object i find the gears skipping and cant = get a good grip, can someone give a suggestion to over come this?? I thought of add in pneumatics power, can someone tell me more = about the pneumatic, its applications , and the power i can get = from it and what kit should i buy for the pneumatic?=20 2) As the motors are weak to lift a load , for example if i made a hand and want to grip an object i find the gears skipping and cant get a good grip, can someone give a suggestion to over come this?? I thought of add in pneumatics power, can someone tell me more about the pneumatic, its applications , and the power i can get from it and what kit should i buy for the pneumatic?
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lugnet.robotics:12400 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 45 Lines: 41 21c22 the wheels are pretty cool looking too and I have no pneumatics today.=20 the wheels are pretty cool looking too and I have no pneumatics today. 24c25 8257 Pris: $22=20 8257 Pris: $22 29c30 =20 33,34c34 > I was going to recommend that tow truck set as well, but wasn't sure of i= ts > I was going to recommend that tow truck set as well, but wasn't sure of its 36,37c36,37 >=20 >=20 > > 43,44c43,44 >=20 >=20 > > 47c47 >=20 > 49,56c49,53 > which is available here in Germany in every toy store, don=B4t know about= the > US, it=B4s not listed in the online catalogue but then again you can find > hardly anything there. IMHO it=B4s a *great* investment, aside from tons = of > cool technics parts you basically get a double pneumatics set with 2 tank= s, > 3 valves and 3 actuators. I=B4m still in the assembly stage and already > which is available here in Germany in every toy store, don´t know about the > US, it´s not listed in the online catalogue but then again you can find > hardly anything there. IMHO it´s a *great* investment, aside from tons of > cool technics parts you basically get a double pneumatics set with 2 tanks, > 3 valves and 3 actuators. I´m still in the assembly stage and already 58,63c55,56 >=20 > =09=09Andreas //Harri Manni - 070-5850517 =20 -"Do not take life too seriously.You will never get out alive." =20 > > Andreas 65a59,60 //Harri Manni - 070-5850517 -"Do not take life too seriously.You will never get out alive."
lugnet.robotics:12418 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 10 Lines: 9 23,28c24,28 I think it=B4s running out so get it while you can! ;) The catalogue inside was from 98, in the 2000 catalogue it=B4s only very small and not featured a= t all and in the online catalogue I can=B4t even find it. Now that I=B4ve assembled it I must say it=B4s a damned good model (except for the steering which doesn=B4t really work) and I can=B4t wait to tear it apart to try out I think it´s running out so get it while you can! ;) The catalogue inside was from 98, in the 2000 catalogue it´s only very small and not featured at all and in the online catalogue I can´t even find it. Now that I´ve assembled it I must say it´s a damned good model (except for the steering which doesn´t really work) and I can´t wait to tear it apart to try out 30d29
lugnet.robotics:12443 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,26c22,27 I'm interested in purchasing an RCX, but from what I've read the 1.0 is = a lot better than the 1.5 (and since they're still giving the upgrade = kits free, what's the difference?). Can anyone explain the differences = between the 1.0 and 1.5 (extra parts, more RAM, etc.), along with = suggestions on where to purchase each (Shop at Home?). I'd like to be = able to use it w/ my Palm, so IR compatibility matters. I'm interested in purchasing an RCX, but from what I've read the 1.0 is a lot better than the 1.5 (and since they're still giving the upgrade kits free, what's the difference?). Can anyone explain the differences between the 1.0 and 1.5 (extra parts, more RAM, etc.), along with suggestions on where to purchase each (Shop at Home?). I'd like to be able to use it w/ my Palm, so IR compatibility matters.
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lugnet.robotics:12576 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 25 Lines: 22 21,29c22,27 after downloading firmware V2.0 you can continue to work with the = graphical programming tool RIS 1.5 as well as with NQC. But you cannot use the = new features ...=20 Up to now you have to switch to the V2.0 programming environment to use = the new features. =20 after downloading firmware V2.0 you can continue to work with the graphical programming tool RIS 1.5 as well as with NQC. But you cannot use the new features ... Up to now you have to switch to the V2.0 programming environment to use the new features. 32,33c30,31 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tobias M=F6ller [mailto:tobias.moller@telia.com] -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tobias Möller [mailto:tobias.moller@telia.com] 44,45d41
lugnet.robotics:12577 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 52 Lines: 42 23,28c24,26 Version 2.2 is a major update to NQC that adds support for RCX 2.0 = Firmware and a final Scout API (preliminary Scout support was added in 2.1). = Refer to the Release Notes for more detailed information. The RCX 2.0 firmware = is Version 2.2 is a major update to NQC that adds support for RCX 2.0 Firmware and a final Scout API (preliminary Scout support was added in 2.1). Refer to the Release Notes for more detailed information. The RCX 2.0 firmware is 32,33c30,31 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tobias M=F6ller [mailto:tobias.moller@telia.com] -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tobias Möller [mailto:tobias.moller@telia.com] 44,46c42,43 >=20 > I dont know about the vision command, but the sdk avalible on = mindstorms > > I dont know about the vision command, but the sdk avalible on mindstorms 48,51c45,46 > offering a special upgrade kit (to my knowledge). The sdk does = include a > free programing interface, but its text based, and you have to = manualy > offering a special upgrade kit (to my knowledge). The sdk does include a > free programing interface, but its text based, and you have to manualy 54c49 >=20 > 56c51 >=20 > 58,68c53,59 >=20 > Tobias M=F6ller wrote: >=20 > > If I download and install the new firmware in my RCX, will the RCX = code > > programming application be updated as well, to use the new = firmware? > > (You know, the program where you add little pieces together to form = a > > program) Or do I need a special upgrade kit to upgrade the = software? > > Tobias Möller wrote: > > > If I download and install the new firmware in my RCX, will the RCX code > > programming application be updated as well, to use the new firmware? > > (You know, the program where you add little pieces together to form a > > program) Or do I need a special upgrade kit to upgrade the software? 71d61
lugnet.robotics:12631 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 19,25c20,25 Hi, I'm new to this mailing list, and I was wondering if there is = anywhere in Canada, specifically in Toronto to buy a lego Technic set = with Pnuematics, even though they have been discontinued by lego. I = called Lego Shop at home and to buy a pnuematics power pack and a 2'' = cylinder I have to pay a total of $60.24 Canadian dollars. I'd rather = spend more money to buy something like the discontinued tow truck(if I = can find one), and get more parts.=20 Hi, I'm new to this mailing list, and I was wondering if there is anywhere in Canada, specifically in Toronto to buy a lego Technic set with Pnuematics, even though they have been discontinued by lego. I called Lego Shop at home and to buy a pnuematics power pack and a 2'' cylinder I have to pay a total of $60.24 Canadian dollars. I'd rather spend more money to buy something like the discontinued tow truck(if I can find one), and get more parts.
lugnet.robotics:12658 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Hi!=20 I'm looking for Java sources to communicate with RCX from my PC. Could = you help me? Hi! I'm looking for Java sources to communicate with RCX from my PC. Could you help me?
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lugnet.robotics:12778 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 At 11:55 AM 16/10/2000, Luis Alberto "Gonz=E1lez" wrote: At 11:55 AM 16/10/2000, Luis Alberto "González" wrote: 29c30 >Luis Alberto Gonz=E1lez >Luis Alberto González 32,33d32
lugnet.robotics:12795 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 24 Lines: 23 23,29c24,29 RCX could have problems with AI algorythm offcourse, but I'm working on = such a problem. I use PC to do all computation, and I communicate with = RCX through IR port to get data from it and to send orders. I would like = to use AI algorythms and test them on RCX - bigger robots are to = expensive for such experiments. This discussion could be interesting = here but if we will say how to use it with Lego, and not what does it = mean Artificial! RCX could have problems with AI algorythm offcourse, but I'm working on such a problem. I use PC to do all computation, and I communicate with RCX through IR port to get data from it and to send orders. I would like to use AI algorythms and test them on RCX - bigger robots are to expensive for such experiments. This discussion could be interesting here but if we will say how to use it with Lego, and not what does it mean Artificial!
lugnet.robotics:12800 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 37 Lines: 36 19,20c20,21 I have a couple of basic AI applications on my website at = www.bvandam.net using the Mindstorm, Scout, Cybermaster or PC. I have a couple of basic AI applications on my website at www.bvandam.net using the Mindstorm, Scout, Cybermaster or PC. 29,31c30,32 =20 =20 =20 35,43c36,43 =20 RCX could have problems with AI algorythm offcourse, but I'm working = on such a problem. I use PC to do all computation, and I communicate = with RCX through IR port to get data from it and to send orders. I would = like to use AI algorythms and test them on RCX - bigger robots are to = expensive for such experiments. This discussion could be interesting = here but if we will say how to use it with Lego, and not what does it = mean Artificial! =20 RCX could have problems with AI algorythm offcourse, but I'm working on such a problem. I use PC to do all computation, and I communicate with RCX through IR port to get data from it and to send orders. I would like to use AI algorythms and test them on RCX - bigger robots are to expensive for such experiments. This discussion could be interesting here but if we will say how to use it with Lego, and not what does it mean Artificial! 45c45 =20
lugnet.robotics:12826 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 I am travelling to London from Europe and would welcome suggestions as = to where to buy Lego and or Mindstorms in London. Pref. shops that = carry stock as I can probably visit them once. I am travelling to London from Europe and would welcome suggestions as to where to buy Lego and or Mindstorms in London. Pref. shops that carry stock as I can probably visit them once. 25,26c26,27 Alternatively, mail order organisations selling Lego into Europe would = be appreciated also. =20 Alternatively, mail order organisations selling Lego into Europe would be appreciated also. 28,30c29,31 Here in Helsinki I can only find Finnish versions of Mindstorms. These = have Finnish packaging and I assume Finnish manuals as well, so don't = suit me or my children. Here in Helsinki I can only find Finnish versions of Mindstorms. These have Finnish packaging and I assume Finnish manuals as well, so don't suit me or my children.
lugnet.robotics:12875 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 24 21,28c22,25 Do you need pneumatics on your robot? = You want to produce the pressure and = you want to switch the valve by motors. = With my idea you can do both with a single motor. = Do you need pneumatics on your robot? You want to produce the pressure and you want to switch the valve by motors. With my idea you can do both with a single motor. 36,50c33,43 -- = =2E \ / =2E \ / =2E \ o O o = =2E O O =2E _ _ _ _ O O - - - - = =2E O O =2E =B0oo=B0C \ en@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de = =2E / \ sibylle.eddy@t-online.de =2E / \ =2E . http://home.t-online.de/home/sibylle.eddy -- . \ / . \ / . \ o O o . O O . _ _ _ _ O O - - - - . O O . °oo°C \ en@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de . / \ sibylle.eddy@t-online.de . / \ . . http://home.t-online.de/home/sibylle.eddy
lugnet.robotics:12892 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24,25c25,26 On a side note, TRU in Denmark has CyberMaster for 500 dkr., about 60 = USD - if anybody is interested ... On a side note, TRU in Denmark has CyberMaster for 500 dkr., about 60 USD - if anybody is interested ... 29c30 ----- Oprindelig meddelelse -----=20 ----- Oprindelig meddelelse ----- 37c38 >=20 > 40c41 >=20 > 42c43 >=20 > 44c45 >=20 > 47,49c48 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:12961 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 90 Lines: 88 20,23c21,24 I tried to make a proximitysensor with was "direction aware", this means = i used two lightsensors on port 1 and 3. And tried to make the change of direction dependable of with = sensor(event) was triggert. I tried to make a proximitysensor with was "direction aware", this means i used two lightsensors on port 1 and 3. And tried to make the change of direction dependable of with sensor(event) was triggert. 31,32c32 sub initial() // this is setting up the variables and events = etc.. sub initial() // this is setting up the variables and events etc.. 35,37c35,37 SetSensorType(SENSOR_1, SENSOR_TYPE_LIGHT);=20 SetSensorType(SENSOR_2, SENSOR_TYPE_TOUCH);=20 SetSensorType(SENSOR_3, SENSOR_TYPE_LIGHT);=20 SetSensorType(SENSOR_1, SENSOR_TYPE_LIGHT); SetSensorType(SENSOR_2, SENSOR_TYPE_TOUCH); SetSensorType(SENSOR_3, SENSOR_TYPE_LIGHT); 40c40 SetTxPower(TX_POWER_HI); =20 SetTxPower(TX_POWER_HI); 45,46c45,46 ev =3D 0; _pow=3D6; ev = 0; _pow=6; 52c52 while(true) =20 while(true) 56c56 SendMessage(255); Wait(20);=20 SendMessage(255); Wait(20); 60c60 ev =3D 0; ev = 0; 63c63 ev =3D 1; ev = 1; 66,67c66,67 {=20 ev =3D ev + 2 { ev = ev + 2 74c74 forw(_pow); =20 forw(_pow); 81c81 case 3: =20 case 3: 90c90 } =20 } 95,98c95,97 I'm always ending up with ev =3D 3 e.g. driving backwards(case 3) even = if i disconnect one sensor, what's going wrong ? I'm sorry for the long list of code but knew no other way to express the = problem I'm always ending up with ev = 3 e.g. driving backwards(case 3) even if i disconnect one sensor, what's going wrong ? I'm sorry for the long list of code but knew no other way to express the problem
lugnet.robotics:12990 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 19,22c20,22 How do we get our hands on Lego chains, the only thing I've seen is that = monster pulling thingy. I don't like buying sets as I like having to be = sparing with the bits making my Bots lighter with more interesting = structures. How do we get our hands on Lego chains, the only thing I've seen is that monster pulling thingy. I don't like buying sets as I like having to be sparing with the bits making my Bots lighter with more interesting structures. 24c24 Any help?=20 Any help?
lugnet.robotics:13096 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 28 26,27c27,28 brett wagner=09|=09brett@madhouse.org get committed!=09|=09http://www.madhouse.org brett wagner | brett@madhouse.org get committed! | http://www.madhouse.org 33,37c34,36 >=20 > How do you people like the Destroyer Drone set? It looks like a cool mode= l > to build, but there doesn't seem to be anything unique (robotics wise) t= hat > > How do you people like the Destroyer Drone set? It looks like a cool model > to build, but there doesn't seem to be anything unique (robotics wise) that 39,43c38,40 >=20 > It's going on sale for $30 Canadian. That's about 7.5=A2 a piece, or abou= t > 5.2=A2 US a piece (if my calculations are correct). That sounds cheap, bu= t I'm > > It's going on sale for $30 Canadian. That's about 7.5¢ a piece, or about > 5.2¢ US a piece (if my calculations are correct). That sounds cheap, but I'm 45c42 >=20 > 47c44 >=20 > 49,52c46,47 >=20 >=20 > >
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lugnet.robotics:13145 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 19,21c20,21 Hi All ,=20 Any one has 2 Rcx ?? can nqc support control of 2 rcx's for work = together??=20 Hi All , Any one has 2 Rcx ?? can nqc support control of 2 rcx's for work together??
lugnet.robotics:13161 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 hi all=20 hi all 22,23c23,24 in the Mercedees benz S class it uses radar to sense an car or ostacle = in front ,=20 in the Mercedees benz S class it uses radar to sense an car or ostacle in front ,
lugnet.robotics:13192 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 63 Lines: 53 18,19c19,20 This is the first time I have posted and I don't look at my mail very = often so I may be late in the conversation, however:=20 This is the first time I have posted and I don't look at my mail very often so I may be late in the conversation, however: 21,24c22,25 Andy, thank you for reminding all of us that there is nothing = impossible! Road blocks do not exist in my world nor should they in = anyone else's. The idea of engineering is to find solutions to problems = and not to be saying things like "it can't be done" or "I can't do it". Andy, thank you for reminding all of us that there is nothing impossible! Road blocks do not exist in my world nor should they in anyone else's. The idea of engineering is to find solutions to problems and not to be saying things like "it can't be done" or "I can't do it". 26,27c27,28 For all of those people that enjoy engineering / problem solving as much = as I do never give in to the Dark Side of impossiblities! For all of those people that enjoy engineering / problem solving as much as I do never give in to the Dark Side of impossiblities! 31,34c32,33 I think that you should not immediately discount the idea of nueral = networks in the RCX. Bert van Dam has done amazing stuff with networks on the = RCX, I think that you should not immediately discount the idea of nueral networks in the RCX. Bert van Dam has done amazing stuff with networks on the RCX, 36,37c35 The point of the RCX is to try, learn, and invernt, not to say that it = is The point of the RCX is to try, learn, and invernt, not to say that it is 49,50c47 > I will believe it when I actually see it. Until then, it remains to me = a > I will believe it when I actually see it. Until then, it remains to me a 54,55c51 > My primary reason for suggesting that the goal of the project be = reduced > My primary reason for suggesting that the goal of the project be reduced 57,60c53,54 > problems. By focusing on small, simple projects first (such as FSMs), = it > is possible to gradually build up to larger projects, such as = autonomous > problems. By focusing on small, simple projects first (such as FSMs), it > is possible to gradually build up to larger projects, such as autonomous 66,67c60 > The question is, will the final result be successful - acceptably = fast, > The question is, will the final result be successful - acceptably fast, 69,70c62 > results in hand, the only thing we have to go on is our imagination = and > results in hand, the only thing we have to go on is our imagination and 75,76c67 > possible in theory... I will not agree that they are practical -- = until > possible in theory... I will not agree that they are practical -- until 81,86d71
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lugnet.robotics:13306 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 61 Lines: 59 52,53c53 >just passing by coming from sci.geo.satellite-nav it occured to me that= even >just passing by coming from sci.geo.satellite-nav it occured to me that even 55,56c55 >microphones will not provide the position, or better said, it still might= be >microphones will not provide the position, or better said, it still might be 81,83c80 >J=FCrgen >Jürgen
lugnet.robotics:13415 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 23 Lines: 22 20,25c21,25 I have 2 rcxs of the same version 1.0=20 Can any one suggest a progam to make 2 rcx work together, can you send = me a sample program made in the mindstomrs language and in nqc if = possible ,=20 A simple example is if a touch sensor is pressed in rcx 1 the motor 1 in = rcx 2 shold be switched on=20 I have 2 rcxs of the same version 1.0 Can any one suggest a progam to make 2 rcx work together, can you send me a sample program made in the mindstomrs language and in nqc if possible , A simple example is if a touch sensor is pressed in rcx 1 the motor 1 in rcx 2 shold be switched on 27,30c27,30 And how to use the two rcx together. how to download programs , when i = switch on both of them it show an error while downloading , i have to = download them seperatly , and even if i download seperatly , then how to = make them react together. and work together.=20 And how to use the two rcx together. how to download programs , when i switch on both of them it show an error while downloading , i have to download them seperatly , and even if i download seperatly , then how to make them react together. and work together.
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lugnet.robotics:13665 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Hi Group Wish All of u a=20 Hi Group Wish All of u a
lugnet.robotics:13666 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Dear Group=20 One question=20 Dear Group One question 22,23c23,24 For how many hours can i keep the rcx connected to the mains .. and kept = running ,,=20 For how many hours can i keep the rcx connected to the mains .. and kept running ,,
lugnet.robotics:13716 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,24c20,25 i am researching the use of lego mindstorms in the college classroom for = an independent research project for honors..... if any of u go2 college = and know of a class or something that ur college uses mindstorms for.... = please give me the name of the college, a website i can find = information, the professors' name and email address, and any other = information u can give me..... ur help is gr8ly appreciated :) i am researching the use of lego mindstorms in the college classroom for an independent research project for honors..... if any of u go2 college and know of a class or something that ur college uses mindstorms for.... please give me the name of the college, a website i can find information, the professors' name and email address, and any other information u can give me..... ur help is gr8ly appreciated :)
lugnet.robotics:13727 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 >Does anybody know about a web site where one can get hold of lego kits?=20 >Does anybody know about a web site where one can get hold of lego kits? 26c27 Ol=E1 :) Olá :) 29c30 http://guide.lugnet.com/shop/?q=3D9xxx&qn=3D30 http://guide.lugnet.com/shop/?q=9xxx&qn=30 35d35
lugnet.robotics:13800 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 I wrecked (don't ask) my PC with this software and now the CD won't read = I wrecked (don't ask) my PC with this software and now the CD won't read 22,24c23,25 Any ideas? I am not a as computer savvy as you all (understatement award = given here). And my kids are in the middle of movie making (fortunately = all on zip disks). Any ideas? I am not a as computer savvy as you all (understatement award given here). And my kids are in the middle of movie making (fortunately all on zip disks).
lugnet.robotics:13848 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 21,25c22,25 Here is a link on how to hook up the GP2D02 to the RCX = http://www.inchlab.com/gp2d02_interface.htm It seems to be overly = complicated. Not to put down on Peter's creation as I think it was = ingenious, but there must be a easier way to do this instead of = compromising an input & an output port... Here is a link on how to hook up the GP2D02 to the RCX http://www.inchlab.com/gp2d02_interface.htm It seems to be overly complicated. Not to put down on Peter's creation as I think it was ingenious, but there must be a easier way to do this instead of compromising an input & an output port...
lugnet.robotics:13889 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 I only have one RCX, but i know a lot of you have two RCX's and I was = wondering what is the most number of RCX's used in one model, tell us = about it and show us a picture if possible. I only have one RCX, but i know a lot of you have two RCX's and I was wondering what is the most number of RCX's used in one model, tell us about it and show us a picture if possible.
lugnet.robotics:13890 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 Word that light sensors are now hard to find and out of production? give = wonder to a new and better design? or perhaps 2.0 has them built-in as = the scout (let us hope not). Word that light sensors are now hard to find and out of production? give wonder to a new and better design? or perhaps 2.0 has them built-in as the scout (let us hope not).
lugnet.robotics:13910 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 A while ago I posted a message asking for robosports instruction = scans, but i didn't have many responses.Please help me, I would = especially like to make a robot that throws balls. A while ago I posted a message asking for robosports instruction scans, but i didn't have many responses.Please help me, I would especially like to make a robot that throws balls.
lugnet.robotics:13994 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 26 Lines: 22 23,24c24 > = > 30,31c30 > = > 35,36c34 > = > 38,39c36 > = > 47,48c44 Carsten M=FCller Carsten Müller
lugnet.robotics:14004 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,24c22,25 Before I invest a lot of time on this, what is the minimal gearing I = need to do in order for a Lego motor to let itself up. How about a lego = motor lifting itself and another motor up? I want the motor to be = powerful but at the same time fast... Before I invest a lot of time on this, what is the minimal gearing I need to do in order for a Lego motor to let itself up. How about a lego motor lifting itself and another motor up? I want the motor to be powerful but at the same time fast...
lugnet.robotics:14011 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 144 Lines: 136 28,29c29 same like anybody else (... or most of yours ...) thought about this proble= m same like anybody else (... or most of yours ...) thought about this problem 42c42 Table: RCX with new batteries (6 * 1.55 V =3D 9.3 V) Table: RCX with new batteries (6 * 1.55 V = 9.3 V) 44,45c44,45 R U I P =3D U * I =87 V mA mW R U I P = U * I ‡ V mA mW 56c56 =20 58c58 sensor mode Raw=20 sensor mode Raw 61,62c61 This table shows that its impossible to get 35 mA with the power of 5 V fro= m This table shows that its impossible to get 35 mA with the power of 5 V from 67,68c66 outputs and not with its inputs. If you want to drive a GP2D12 (or somethin= g outputs and not with its inputs. If you want to drive a GP2D12 (or something 70,71c68 with your robot then yo have one output for driving your hungry sensors wit= h with your robot then yo have one output for driving your hungry sensors with 78,79c75 with full power because setting smaller power would result pwm (power with = a with full power because setting smaller power would result pwm (power with a 86c82 surroundings.=20 surroundings. 113,116c109,110 > Unless I am missing something here, the Sharp range of IR distance sensor= s > all have power consumptions in the 35mA range, which prohibits their use = with > Unless I am missing something here, the Sharp range of IR distance sensors > all have power consumptions in the 35mA range, which prohibits their use with 118c112 >=20 > 120c114 >=20 > 122c116 >=20 > 125,129c119,123 >>>=20 >>> Here is a link on how to hook up the GP2D02 to the RCX =3D >>> http://www.inchlab.com/gp2d02_interface.htm It seems to be overly =3D >>> complicated. Not to put down on Peter's creation as I think it was =3D >>> ingenious, but there must be a easier way to do this instead of =3D >>> >>> Here is a link on how to hook up the GP2D02 to the RCX = >>> http://www.inchlab.com/gp2d02_interface.htm It seems to be overly = >>> complicated. Not to put down on Peter's creation as I think it was = >>> ingenious, but there must be a easier way to do this instead of = 131c125 >>>=20 >>> 133c127 >>=20 >> 135,137c129,130 >>=20 >> I don't know an easier way of using GP2D02 but why don't you use the GP2= D12 >> >> I don't know an easier way of using GP2D02 but why don't you use the GP2D12 143c136 >>=20 >> 146c139 >>=20 >> 149c142 --=20 -- 163,164d155
lugnet.robotics:14089 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Yes, there are some chemical sensors available from=20 Yes, there are some chemical sensors available from 24,25c25,26 I am profesionally interested in among other glucose sensors, but I = never tried to combine it with Lego. I am profesionally interested in among other glucose sensors, but I never tried to combine it with Lego. 29c30 ----- Oprindelig meddelelse -----=20 ----- Oprindelig meddelelse ----- 38c39 >=20 > 41,43c42 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:14100 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 14 Lines: 13 20,21c21 I notice many comments on this list refer to US things, is there a UK = list I notice many comments on this list refer to US things, is there a UK list
lugnet.robotics:14101 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 26 Lines: 25 20c21 The joint lego robotics (lego-robotics@crynwr.com) and = The joint lego robotics (lego-robotics@crynwr.com) and 22,24c23,25 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ciaran=20 To: Peternewmancl@hotmail.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ciaran To: Peternewmancl@hotmail.com 29,30c30 >>I notice many comments on this list refer to US things, is >>there a = UK list >>I notice many comments on this list refer to US things, is >>there a UK list 34c34 >Which List ?=20 >Which List ?
lugnet.robotics:14110 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 The RCX=B4s main components are the CPU and the i/o interfaces. Do you = know of someone working to make a common computer ( using linux) with = some hardware for i/o than works like the RCX? The RCX´s main components are the CPU and the i/o interfaces. Do you know of someone working to make a common computer ( using linux) with some hardware for i/o than works like the RCX?
lugnet.robotics:14111 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 hi group=20 hi group
lugnet.robotics:14112 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 51 Lines: 47 22,23c23,24 |Or a substitute can be made as shown on the following web page =3D | http://odin.prohosting.com/pnewman/mindstorms/parts.bmp=20 |Or a substitute can be made as shown on the following web page = | http://odin.prohosting.com/pnewman/mindstorms/parts.bmp 25,28c26,27 |2 of liftarm 1 x 3 = http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=3D3D6632=3D20 |1 of four long rod = http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=3D3D3705 |2 of liftarm 1 x 3 http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=3D6632=20 |1 of four long rod http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=3D3705 32c31 |----- Original Message -----=3D20 |----- Original Message -----=20 41,43c40,41 |>=3D20 |> In the UAS manual on page 8, step 2, what is the blue object and = where |>=20 |> In the UAS manual on page 8, step 2, what is the blue object and where 49,50c47 |> What is the blue part and where do I find it (I have RIS1.0, RDS, = DDS, |> What is the blue part and where do I find it (I have RIS1.0, RDS, DDS, 52c49 |>=3D20 |>=20 56c53 |>=3D20 |>=20 59c56 |>=3D20 |>=20
lugnet.robotics:14131 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22,24c23,25 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Patricio Valarezo=20 To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricio Valarezo To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 30,32c31,33 The RCX=B4s main components are the CPU and the i/o interfaces. Do you = know of someone working to make a common computer ( using linux) with = some hardware for i/o than works like the RCX? The RCX´s main components are the CPU and the i/o interfaces. Do you know of someone working to make a common computer ( using linux) with some hardware for i/o than works like the RCX?
lugnet.robotics:14144 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 38 Lines: 32 21,24c22,23 >My understanding is that a all relay machine can be built which can be clas= sed >as a electric (not electronic) computer. One can do all the normal logic t= hat >My understanding is that a all relay machine can be built which can be classed >as a electric (not electronic) computer. One can do all the normal logic that 26,27c25 >combinations) using relays (note, diodes make it much easier, but it can b= e >combinations) using relays (note, diodes make it much easier, but it can be 32,47c30,42 You are absolutely correct. The reason I was quoting "computer" was because= it has such a broad definition. Some folks get downright violent if you= call an abacus a computer, but it is. What you really need to do is= classify the computer. the most ubiquitous is the "Von Neumman Machine", a= computer that stores it's program in the same memory as it's data and= typically has four basic parts: input, output, memory and CPU. The CPU is= further divided into control unit, arithmetic-logic unit and registers.= After that you just have variations on a theme. My point was that the= tic-tac-toe computer is simplistic--it runs a single, deterministic= program. A computer nonetheless. >Right now I am taking a course on PLC's (Programmable Logic Controllers), a= nd >the info is quite interesting. Babbage #2 is most definitely a computer, a= t >least to my mind, as would be one of the Bletchly Park Bomb=C8s. You are absolutely correct. The reason I was quoting "computer" was because it has such a broad definition. Some folks get downright violent if you call an abacus a computer, but it is. What you really need to do is classify the computer. the most ubiquitous is the "Von Neumman Machine", a computer that stores it's program in the same memory as it's data and typically has four basic parts: input, output, memory and CPU. The CPU is further divided into control unit, arithmetic-logic unit and registers. After that you just have variations on a theme. My point was that the tic-tac-toe computer is simplistic--it runs a single, deterministic program. A computer nonetheless. >Right now I am taking a course on PLC's (Programmable Logic Controllers), and >the info is quite interesting. Babbage #2 is most definitely a computer, at >least to my mind, as would be one of the Bletchly Park BombÈs. 51,54c46,49 You must accept Babbage #1 (the difference engine) as a computer, even= though, like the tic-tac-toe machines, it only ran a single program (non-pr= ogrammable). No one will argue, however, that the programmable machines= aren't more interesting. You must accept Babbage #1 (the difference engine) as a computer, even though, like the tic-tac-toe machines, it only ran a single program (non-programmable). No one will argue, however, that the programmable machines aren't more interesting. 58,59d52
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lugnet.robotics:14291 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 Though ff you want to get started quickly on your bots I=B4d suggest Though ff you want to get started quickly on your bots I´d suggest 27c28 save your pennies, check the web! There=B4s billions of online tutorials save your pennies, check the web! There´s billions of online tutorials 30c31 really couldn=B4t recommend any, the online stuff is often as good or really couldn´t recommend any, the online stuff is often as good or 47d47
lugnet.robotics:14293 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Any way to program tht robot with a map ??=20 Any way to program tht robot with a map ?? 21c22 has any one made such a thing in lego=20 has any one made such a thing in lego
lugnet.robotics:14312 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 69 Lines: 57 21,28c22,25 The WebRemote Device Controller allows you to control devices or play = simple games across a NetMeeting connection... If you have devices to control = then you simply run the device controller, add the drivers for your devices = and connect to NetMeeting to make the devices available. If you want to = control The WebRemote Device Controller allows you to control devices or play simple games across a NetMeeting connection... If you have devices to control then you simply run the device controller, add the drivers for your devices and connect to NetMeeting to make the devices available. If you want to control 31,32c28 select a device to control and if you don't have the appropriate = controller select a device to control and if you don't have the appropriate controller 35,36c31 At present there are four devices you can control, a Lego Mindstorms = RCX, a At present there are four devices you can control, a Lego Mindstorms RCX, a 38,43c33,35 National Control Devices ASEL video switch (16 video inputs, 1 video = output) and a generic serial port driver that allows you to control any device = that you can connect to a serial port. More drivers will be available soon. = Also National Control Devices ASEL video switch (16 video inputs, 1 video output) and a generic serial port driver that allows you to control any device that you can connect to a serial port. More drivers will be available soon. Also 45,46c37 can play a simple game of TicTacToe across your netmeeting link. We = expect can play a simple game of TicTacToe across your netmeeting link. We expect 53,56c44,45 If you can think of any other pieces of hardware that you would like to = be able to control over your netmeeting link then get in touch and we'll = write If you can think of any other pieces of hardware that you would like to be able to control over your netmeeting link then get in touch and we'll write
lugnet.robotics:14568 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 21,24c22,24 Can anyone tell which controller ic I can use best for the lego 9v = motors. And can someone tell me how lego manages it that if you connect your = motor wrong (90deg) Can anyone tell which controller ic I can use best for the lego 9v motors. And can someone tell me how lego manages it that if you connect your motor wrong (90deg)
lugnet.robotics:14599 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 19,24c20,24 Hi group=20 has any one used the active x control with macromedia director 7 or = later?=20 it has the opetion to control the rcx.=20 can any one send me a small program to run just one motor , then i can = get an idea of how it works .. Hi group has any one used the active x control with macromedia director 7 or later? it has the opetion to control the rcx. can any one send me a small program to run just one motor , then i can get an idea of how it works ..
lugnet.robotics:14603 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 40 Lines: 34 27c28 ----- Oprindelig meddelelse -----=20 ----- Oprindelig meddelelse ----- 34,35c35 > anybody have or have read the book Killer Mindstorm Robots by Gordon = McComb, > anybody have or have read the book Killer Mindstorm Robots by Gordon McComb, 37,42c37,40 >=20 > Storm the LEGO castle with this complete guide to designing, building, = and > programming "combots" (combat robots) using the LEGO Mindstorm = robotics set >=20 > > Storm the LEGO castle with this complete guide to designing, building, and > programming "combots" (combat robots) using the LEGO Mindstorm robotics set > 44,45c42 > step-by-robotic-step through the process of building wheeled, tracked, = and > step-by-robotic-step through the process of building wheeled, tracked, and 47c44 >=20 > 49,50c46 > tactics, suggestions for design improvements, and programming hints = (IBM > tactics, suggestions for design improvements, and programming hints (IBM 52,54c48,49 >=20 > **Available from barnesandnoble.com and booksamillion.com but = apparently not > > **Available from barnesandnoble.com and booksamillion.com but apparently not 56c51 >=20 > 59,61c54 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:14830 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 46 Lines: 43 26,27c27 >> transistor. They all require biasing in order to function properly and= >> transistor. They all require biasing in order to function properly and 31,32c31 >> powering the light sensors. Not a high enough voltage to light the LED= >> powering the light sensors. Not a high enough voltage to light the LED 37c36 > with the LEGO firmware will do fine.=20 > with the LEGO firmware will do fine. 57c56 > J=FCrgen > Jürgen 60c59 --=20 -- 63,66c62 "There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist."= - Xen "There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist." - Xen
lugnet.robotics:15129 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 36 Lines: 29 20,23c21,22 > = > Does anyone know the physical differences between the ROBOLAB Team Chal= lenge > > Does anyone know the physical differences between the ROBOLAB Team Challenge 25,26c24 > = > 32,33c30 > = > 35,37c32,33 > = > I=92m not interested in the differences in the software or building > > I’m not interested in the differences in the software or building 39,40c35 > = > 46,48c41 http://news.lugnet.com/dacta/?n=3D114 -- = http://news.lugnet.com/dacta/?n=114 49a43 -- 54c48 =2E.. where air is power! ... where air is power!
lugnet.robotics:15364 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 33 Lines: 32 20,24c21,25 Just tried a lab with IBM 390s and IBM 1422 Running Win98 and only my = 390 would work to communicate to the tower. A few of the student's = laptops would work for a few seconds then nothing... Serial ports were = on, software loaded correctly, etc. Any similar experiences? Last year = with 380's and 390's I had zero problems. Just tried a lab with IBM 390s and IBM 1422 Running Win98 and only my 390 would work to communicate to the tower. A few of the student's laptops would work for a few seconds then nothing... Serial ports were on, software loaded correctly, etc. Any similar experiences? Last year with 380's and 390's I had zero problems. 32,34c33,35 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DanL08@aol.com=20 To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: DanL08@aol.com To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 39,43c40,43 Does anyone know where I can get a copy of this book in the US now? = Or does=20 anyone have a copy they'd like to sell?=20 Thanks=20 DAN=20 Does anyone know where I can get a copy of this book in the US now? Or does anyone have a copy they'd like to sell? Thanks DAN
lugnet.robotics:15429 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 20,22c21,23 With regard to the op-code = (http://graphics.stanford.edu/~kekoa/rcx/opcodes.html) for set motor = power (13/1b), there are three parameters: With regard to the op-code (http://graphics.stanford.edu/~kekoa/rcx/opcodes.html) for set motor power (13/1b), there are three parameters: 28,30c29,30 Can someone explain to me what is the parameter "source"? What are the = values 0, 2 and 4 for? It seems it only works properly when I pass the = value 2. Can someone explain to me what is the parameter "source"? What are the values 0, 2 and 4 for? It seems it only works properly when I pass the value 2.
lugnet.robotics:15441 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 Several weeks ago I received a posting mentioning a home built IR = tower. Does anyone have information on this? Is a schematic available? Several weeks ago I received a posting mentioning a home built IR tower. Does anyone have information on this? Is a schematic available?
lugnet.robotics:15494 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 18 20,23c21,22 I own an IR tower and remote control, and was wondering if it is = possible to use the IR tower for other things. eg using PC + tower to control = stereo/TV, I own an IR tower and remote control, and was wondering if it is possible to use the IR tower for other things. eg using PC + tower to control stereo/TV,
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lugnet.robotics:15569 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 30,31c31,32 >> Hi=20 >>=20 >> Hi >> 38c39 >>=20 >> 40c41 >>=20 >> 44,45c45,46 --=20 Carlos Antonio P=E9rez Delgado ICQ # 41048818 -- Carlos Antonio Pérez Delgado ICQ # 41048818 47,48d47
lugnet.robotics:15597 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 18 20,25c21,25 I had very much the same problem. "RCX not Responding". I had been = able to load the firmware and one or two small programs, before the unit = died. After many, many emails back and forth with the Lego Troubleshooter = team, They narrowed it down to a bad cable. It appears that there was = and intermittent open connection within the cable.=20 I had very much the same problem. "RCX not Responding". I had been able to load the firmware and one or two small programs, before the unit died. After many, many emails back and forth with the Lego Troubleshooter team, They narrowed it down to a bad cable. It appears that there was and intermittent open connection within the cable. 27,28c27 Have you tried pinning out your cable? That just might be the = problem. Have you tried pinning out your cable? That just might be the problem.
lugnet.robotics:15653 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 24 19c20 In a message dated 6/29/2001 7:16:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 In a message dated 6/29/2001 7:16:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 23,26c24,25 > As a blunt but appropriate reminder; what software do you get when you buy= a=20 > brand new copy of LEGO Mindstorms RIS 1.5 =E2=80=93 it=E2=80=99s all Windo= ws based tripe!=20 > As a blunt but appropriate reminder; what software do you get when you buy a > brand new copy of LEGO Mindstorms RIS 1.5 – it’s all Windows based tripe! 28,30c27,28 >=20 > Come on K=E2=80=99Nex. I hope they give LEGO a run for their money (and ma= rket=20 > > Come on K’Nex. I hope they give LEGO a run for their money (and market 32c30 >=20 > 35,36c33 k'nex EDUCATIONAL division is the group that is releasing the product. They= =20 k'nex EDUCATIONAL division is the group that is releasing the product. They
lugnet.robotics:15659 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 55 Lines: 48 20,22c21,22 Hey, right on, I'm glad you read the story and checked out the Mecha pix!= They take quite a bit of effort...so getting compliments like yours is g= reat! Hey, right on, I'm glad you read the story and checked out the Mecha pix! They take quite a bit of effort...so getting compliments like yours is great! 26c26 Thanks again,=20 Thanks again, 37,38c37 Subject: Re: All your Yellow Pod fins belong to us - Q visits the Legomas= ter Subject: Re: All your Yellow Pod fins belong to us - Q visits the Legomaster 52,55c51,52 --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- ========================================================== 62,64c59 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ========================================================== 70,71c65 _________________________________________________________________________= __ ___________________________________________________________________________ 73c67 Find out how companies are linking mobile users to the=20 Find out how companies are linking mobile users to the 75,76d68
lugnet.robotics:15676 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 178 Lines: 149 20c21 should!=20 should! 22,23c23 The Mac is an option for consumers (whom some people say is much superior t= o The Mac is an option for consumers (whom some people say is much superior to 32,33c32 also educates. I (want to) believe that Lego is an 'enlightened' company fo= r also educates. I (want to) believe that Lego is an 'enlightened' company for 42,43c41 for the crappy OS that it is). I prefer NQC, and particularly LegOS over th= e for the crappy OS that it is). I prefer NQC, and particularly LegOS over the 47,48c45 The ideal situation is this: He plugs the USB tower directly to my home Ima= c The ideal situation is this: He plugs the USB tower directly to my home Imac 53,54c50 I think that Lego is more about childrens' smiles than about supporting onl= y I think that Lego is more about childrens' smiles than about supporting only 57,58c53,54 --=20 Carlos Antonio P=E9rez Delgado ICQ # 41048818 -- Carlos Antonio Pérez Delgado ICQ # 41048818 67,71c63,65 >=20 >> 32 reasonable arguments, coming up (most current data I could find-may n= ot >> all apply directly to home use vs. educational vs. business, but provide= d > >> 32 reasonable arguments, coming up (most current data I could find-may not >> all apply directly to home use vs. educational vs. business, but provided 73c67 >>=20 >> 75,78c69,70 >> purchase Macintosh computers in 1999, outselling both Windows and Window= s NT >> by an astounding margin of over 3 to 1. The research company stated, "A= pple >> purchase Macintosh computers in 1999, outselling both Windows and Windows NT >> by an astounding margin of over 3 to 1. The research company stated, "Apple 81c73 >=20 > 83,87c75,77 >=20 >> * 72% of the alumni of Rochester Institute of Technology - arguabl= y the >> world's oldest (1830s), largest and best school of photography and print= ing > >> * 72% of the alumni of Rochester Institute of Technology - arguably the >> world's oldest (1830s), largest and best school of photography and printing 90c80 >=20 > 92,94c82,83 >=20 >> * More than 57% of Web sites that use video use Apple's QuickTime = to > >> * More than 57% of Web sites that use video use Apple's QuickTime to 97,102c86,89 >=20 > So people who serve quicktime from their websites are big Lego purchasers= ? >=20 >> * On average, the cost to develop and support Windows applications= is > > So people who serve quicktime from their websites are big Lego purchasers? > >> * On average, the cost to develop and support Windows applications is 106,108c93,94 >=20 > Undeniably true...That's why Lego have no money left to support a Mac ver= sion > > Undeniably true...That's why Lego have no money left to support a Mac version 111,113c97,98 >=20 >> * Mac users are 50% more accurate and 44% more productive than Win= tel > >> * Mac users are 50% more accurate and 44% more productive than Wintel 116c101 >=20 > 118c103 >=20 > 121,125c106,108 >=20 > A 1998 figure. The December 2000 figure is 5%...same as Linux. By now, if= the > growth rates have held firm, MacOS is the THIRD most popular OS...now the= re > > A 1998 figure. The December 2000 figure is 5%...same as Linux. By now, if the > growth rates have held firm, MacOS is the THIRD most popular OS...now there 127,128c110 > actually TWO Mac OS's...and one of them is UNIX...the number of non-UNIX = Mac's > actually TWO Mac OS's...and one of them is UNIX...the number of non-UNIX Mac's 130c112 >=20 > 136c118 >=20 > 140,141c122 > do - so there is more need to buy software after the fact - hardly anybod= y > do - so there is more need to buy software after the fact - hardly anybody 143,148c124,127 >=20 > I'm also betting that's 18% of the revenue and not 18% of the disks - and= so > that could just be a reflection of the generally higher price of Mac soft= ware. >=20 > > I'm also betting that's 18% of the revenue and not 18% of the disks - and so > that could just be a reflection of the generally higher price of Mac software. > 151c130 >=20 > 153c132 >=20 > 155c134 >=20 > 157,158c136 > The one and ONLY figure that matters to Lego is the number of Lego purcha= sers > The one and ONLY figure that matters to Lego is the number of Lego purchasers 160,162c138,139 >=20 > Taking even the most WILDLY inflated figures, Mac has no more than a 5 to= 10% > > Taking even the most WILDLY inflated figures, Mac has no more than a 5 to 10% 164,170c141,144 >=20 > So, unless you have some figures to show that Apple users buy TEN TIMES a= s > much Lego (maybe TWENTY TIMES) per capita compared to the Windoze communi= ty > you don't have an argument. It's just silly to quote the number of worth= less > > So, unless you have some figures to show that Apple users buy TEN TIMES as > much Lego (maybe TWENTY TIMES) per capita compared to the Windoze community > you don't have an argument. It's just silly to quote the number of worthless 172,174c146,147 >=20 > Linux is in a similar position - so much as I *love* the OS, I'm realisti= c > > Linux is in a similar position - so much as I *love* the OS, I'm realistic 176c149 >=20 > 178c151 >=20 > 183c156 >=20 > 185c158 >=20 > 187c160 >=20 > 191,192c164 > Projects : http://plib.sf.net http://tuxaqfh.sf.net http://tuxkart.s= f.net > Projects : http://plib.sf.net http://tuxaqfh.sf.net http://tuxkart.sf.net 195,199c167,168 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics:15678 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 In a message dated 7/4/2001 12:29:12 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 In a message dated 7/4/2001 12:29:12 PM Central Daylight Time, 24c25 Carlos, =20 Carlos, 33c34 should!=20 should! 65,66c66,67 --=20 Carlos Antonio P=E9rez Delgado ICQ # 41048818 -- Carlos Antonio Pérez Delgado ICQ # 41048818 69,70d69
lugnet.robotics:15720 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 35 Lines: 33 19,21c20,21 I have two tage playing robots on my website www.bvandam.net and also = lot's of other AI applications, including info on programming in = different langauges etc. I have two tage playing robots on my website www.bvandam.net and also lot's of other AI applications, including info on programming in different langauges etc. 35,44c35,43 =20 =20 =20 Hello,=20 I used to know of a site that had among other things, a program for = two rcx=20 bricks to play tag with each other?=20 Does anyone know that address????=20 Thanks for any info!=20 -Mike=20 Hello, I used to know of a site that had among other things, a program for two rcx bricks to play tag with each other? Does anyone know that address???? Thanks for any info! -Mike
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lugnet.robotics:15744 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 59 Lines: 50 24,25c25,26 >=20 >=20 > > 28,29c29 >> ...those kooky stick and straw lovin' nuts in the K'Nex camp have done w= hat >> ...those kooky stick and straw lovin' nuts in the K'Nex camp have done what 31,33c31,32 >>=20 >> The K'Nex robotics systems are NATIVE Macintosh...WHAT A CONCEPT! See he= re >> >> The K'Nex robotics systems are NATIVE Macintosh...WHAT A CONCEPT! See here 35,40c34,37 >>=20 >=20 > I hate to burst your bubble, but the educational division of LEGO has had= a > Mac version of the Mindstorms product out for years (RoboLab, and its muc= h >> > > I hate to burst your bubble, but the educational division of LEGO has had a > Mac version of the Mindstorms product out for years (RoboLab, and its much 42,49c39,42 > being shown on Macs and I seem to remember that it was a serial connectio= n > similar to the LEGO product. I was actually at NECC this week and got to= see > the new USB towers for Mindstorms working directly on iMacs. They said t= hat > they would be launching the new version of RoboLab that works with Macs a= nd > being shown on Macs and I seem to remember that it was a serial connection > similar to the LEGO product. I was actually at NECC this week and got to see > the new USB towers for Mindstorms working directly on iMacs. They said that > they would be launching the new version of RoboLab that works with Macs and 52c45 >=20 > 54c47 I don=B9t personally think you=B9ve burst anyone=B9s bubble. In fact you=B9ve I don¹t personally think you¹ve burst anyone¹s bubble. In fact you¹ve 57,58c50,51 The =B3educational=B2 division of LEGO (Dacta) provides and supports RoboLab. It is not promoted or supported as a LEGO =8Ctop level=B9 brand product. LEGO The ³educational² division of LEGO (Dacta) provides and supports RoboLab. It is not promoted or supported as a LEGO Œtop level¹ brand product. LEGO 62,64c55,56 As a blunt but appropriate reminder; what software do you get when you buy = a brand new copy of LEGO Mindstorms RIS 1.5 =AD it=B9s all Windows based tripe! As a blunt but appropriate reminder; what software do you get when you buy a brand new copy of LEGO Mindstorms RIS 1.5 it¹s all Windows based tripe! 67c59 Come on K=B9Nex. I hope they give LEGO a run for their money (and market Come on K¹Nex. I hope they give LEGO a run for their money (and market
lugnet.robotics:15746 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 44 Lines: 40 20c21 Re: Of Interest To Robotics Folks? Perhaps...>As a blunt but appropriate = Re: Of Interest To Robotics Folks? Perhaps...>As a blunt but appropriate 27,45c28,43 If you've chosen the operating system equivalent of Betamax*, you're = going to have to deal with the fact that many developers won't or can't = write software you can use. It's silly to whine about it - or, worse, = act as if Mac support is somehow owed to you. You chose the Mac, after = all. In truth, I doubt that I like Micro$oft any better than you do, but = there are certain realities to be faced here. Macs are used almost = exclusively in the graphics design, music, and educational markets - = there aren't that many in homes. LEGO has evidently made a business = decision to support the major home OS only with their products; the same = decision is made by thousands of other developers daily. >Come on K'Nex. I hope they give LEGO a run for their money (and market = share). Fat chance - but if you like K'Nex so well, I wish you'd find a K'Nex = mailing list / forum to say so in. As far as I'm concerned, you're just = trolling now. If you've chosen the operating system equivalent of Betamax*, you're going to have to deal with the fact that many developers won't or can't write software you can use. It's silly to whine about it - or, worse, act as if Mac support is somehow owed to you. You chose the Mac, after all. In truth, I doubt that I like Micro$oft any better than you do, but there are certain realities to be faced here. Macs are used almost exclusively in the graphics design, music, and educational markets - there aren't that many in homes. LEGO has evidently made a business decision to support the major home OS only with their products; the same decision is made by thousands of other developers daily. >Come on K'Nex. I hope they give LEGO a run for their money (and market share). Fat chance - but if you like K'Nex so well, I wish you'd find a K'Nex mailing list / forum to say so in. As far as I'm concerned, you're just trolling now. 49,54c47,51 *Note: Before you throw bricks (the unfriendly, non-ABS kind) at me, = remember that Betamax is a superior format to VHS, and has long been = used in broadcast TV. My comparison is meant to illustrate that being = the best doesn't ensure the biggest market share, and that sometimes one = must make a considered decision to use a lesser product with greater = support. *Note: Before you throw bricks (the unfriendly, non-ABS kind) at me, remember that Betamax is a superior format to VHS, and has long been used in broadcast TV. My comparison is meant to illustrate that being the best doesn't ensure the biggest market share, and that sometimes one must make a considered decision to use a lesser product with greater support.
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lugnet.robotics:15861 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,26c20,27 Hi All=20 Ive made a infra red sensor that can sense a ball 15 feet away and using = lens u can get a more range.=20 you can use the same circuit as a security device and when triggered it = can swith a relay or a buzzer.=20 visit my site at http://www.geocities.com/macx75/robotics.htm let me = know your views.=20 regards=20 Hi All Ive made a infra red sensor that can sense a ball 15 feet away and using lens u can get a more range. you can use the same circuit as a security device and when triggered it can swith a relay or a buzzer. visit my site at http://www.geocities.com/macx75/robotics.htm let me know your views. regards
lugnet.robotics:15874 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 25 20,22c21,23 I have been received the messages of this list for one year and this is = my first message to the list. I live in Basque Country and my languages = are Basque and Spanish. It isn't easy for me write in English.=20 I have been received the messages of this list for one year and this is my first message to the list. I live in Basque Country and my languages are Basque and Spanish. It isn't easy for me write in English. 24,27c25,28 I uploaded into my page (www.euskalnet.net/kolaskoaga/) a new model: is = a plotter witch can change the pen. I write the text in Spanish = ("Castellano" link) and Basque language but there is some pictures in = the web page. (Sorry by my English) I uploaded into my page (www.euskalnet.net/kolaskoaga/) a new model: is a plotter witch can change the pen. I write the text in Spanish ("Castellano" link) and Basque language but there is some pictures in the web page. (Sorry by my English) 31,37c32,35 *************************************************************************= ****** http://www.donospat.net/2000/ proyecto de tecnolog=EDa y = rob=F3tica http://www.euskalnet.net/kolaskoaga/ p=E1gina personal (LEGO) *************************************************************************= ********=20 ******************************************************************************* http://www.donospat.net/2000/ proyecto de tecnología y robótica http://www.euskalnet.net/kolaskoaga/ página personal (LEGO) *********************************************************************************
lugnet.robotics:15965 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 37 Lines: 33 19c20 =20 22,23c23,24 I have a question about rotation sensor and Robolab. In order to = control two motions (X and Y) I used two rotation sensors in my project. = I have a question about rotation sensor and Robolab. In order to control two motions (X and Y) I used two rotation sensors in my project. 25,30c26,30 When I programmed in NQC I hadn't any problem, but when I tried = translating the program into Robolab I found a problem: I couldn't use = absolute coordinates because if I used "Wait for rotation" the rotation = sensor value was reset to 0. Consequently, RCX "can't remember" the = actual position, and I have to use relative coordinates. When I programmed in NQC I hadn't any problem, but when I tried translating the program into Robolab I found a problem: I couldn't use absolute coordinates because if I used "Wait for rotation" the rotation sensor value was reset to 0. Consequently, RCX "can't remember" the actual position, and I have to use relative coordinates. 34,35c34,35 I would know if I can use absolute values of rotation in order to = control the motions without variables. I would know if I can use absolute values of rotation in order to control the motions without variables. 37c37 Koldo=20 Koldo 39,45c39,42 *************************************************************************= ****** http://www.donospat.net/2000/ proyecto de tecnolog=EDa y = rob=F3tica http://www.euskalnet.net/kolaskoaga/ p=E1gina personal (LEGO) *************************************************************************= ********=20 ******************************************************************************* http://www.donospat.net/2000/ proyecto de tecnología y robótica http://www.euskalnet.net/kolaskoaga/ página personal (LEGO) *********************************************************************************
lugnet.robotics:16026 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 32 Lines: 28 23,24c24 >> >> Has anybody mixtured with the RCX 1.5 to give it an power inlet l= ike >> >> Has anybody mixtured with the RCX 1.5 to give it an power inlet like 30c30 >> Check out this site, J=FCrgen: >> Check out this site, Jürgen: 38c38 >J=FCrgen >Jürgen 40,41c40 Yes you're right, J=FCrgen, I don't really know what to look for in the= re, Yes you're right, Jürgen, I don't really know what to look for in there, 43,44c42 I am not such a circuitry wiz ;-) But as far as I know, Kekoa (the guy = from I am not such a circuitry wiz ;-) But as far as I know, Kekoa (the guy from 49,52d46 =
lugnet.robotics:16031 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 36 Lines: 28 22,23c23 >> >>There are 12 contact pads in the battery bay. One is the + lead to= the >> >>There are 12 contact pads in the battery bay. One is the + lead to the 25,26c25 >> >>one is the - lead to the RCX, and the other 10 are used to connect= the >> >>one is the - lead to the RCX, and the other 10 are used to connect the 28,29c27 >> But what sort of Voltage and Amperage do you use with that connectio= n? >> But what sort of Voltage and Amperage do you use with that connection? 31,32c29 >> with me it won't work very well with a couple of adapters putting ou= t 6 >> with me it won't work very well with a couple of adapters putting out 6 37,38c34 >Lower ampere ratings should also work until you stall three motors ...= >Lower ampere ratings should also work until you stall three motors ... 40c36 >J=FCrgen >Jürgen 42,44c38,39 Thanks, J=FCrgen! I have installed the firmware with a 9.6V=3D, 50mA! adapter, but no sen= sors Thanks, Jürgen! I have installed the firmware with a 9.6V=, 50mA! adapter, but no sensors 46,47c41 motors connected :-) It was a breeze after I found the right connection= motors connected :-) It was a breeze after I found the right connection 53,56d46 =
lugnet.robotics:16049 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 43 Lines: 41 20c21 At 09:08 8/29/2001 -0400, Jones, James wrote:=20 At 09:08 8/29/2001 -0400, Jones, James wrote: 24,26c25,26 some suggestions.=A0 My engineering class is looking into the possibility of building a Mars Rover Prototype.=A0 I was thinking that maybe this would be = a some suggestions. My engineering class is looking into the possibility of building a Mars Rover Prototype. I was thinking that maybe this would be a 28,31c28,30 definitely open to suggestions.=A0 We were even thinking about building a mars landscape and running the bot via the internet.=A0 I would even conside= r some kits or partial prebuilts.=A0 If you have any ideals, links to similar definitely open to suggestions. We were even thinking about building a mars landscape and running the bot via the internet. I would even consider some kits or partial prebuilts. If you have any ideals, links to similar 35c34 with Lego Mindstorms. Here is the class website:=20 with Lego Mindstorms. Here is the class website: 63d61
lugnet.robotics:16106 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 sorr for bothering but can any kind soul send me the spirit.ocx reference= pdf file that came with the original sdk? sorr for bothering but can any kind soul send me the spirit.ocx reference pdf file that came with the original sdk? 23,24c24,25 brianGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer= .msn.com brianGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
lugnet.robotics:16109 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,25c20,26 Hello! I am getting started with seriously using the RIS to build = robots. I have been poking around the Internet and right now I feel very = lost about quite a few things. I currently have 1.0 (I got it a while = ago!), however, supposedly I upgraded the software to 1.5 and it's on = the way in the mail. If someone could contact me over AOL Instant = Messenger at Mattb0611, or email me (AIM preferred), then I'd appreciate = it. I'd just like to get a little help with my questions. Thanks! Hello! I am getting started with seriously using the RIS to build robots. I have been poking around the Internet and right now I feel very lost about quite a few things. I currently have 1.0 (I got it a while ago!), however, supposedly I upgraded the software to 1.5 and it's on the way in the mail. If someone could contact me over AOL Instant Messenger at Mattb0611, or email me (AIM preferred), then I'd appreciate it. I'd just like to get a little help with my questions. Thanks!
lugnet.robotics:16111 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 I appreciate the help you all have given me! I got many responses and = have a lot of information to look through. Thanks again to everyone who = replied! I'm glad to see that so many people are willing to help. I appreciate the help you all have given me! I got many responses and have a lot of information to look through. Thanks again to everyone who replied! I'm glad to see that so many people are willing to help. 26,28c27,29 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matt Brannock=20 To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Brannock To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 33,39c34,40 Hello! I am getting started with seriously using the RIS to build = robots. I have been poking around the Internet and right now I feel very = lost about quite a few things. I currently have 1.0 (I got it a while = ago!), however, supposedly I upgraded the software to 1.5 and it's on = the way in the mail. If someone could contact me over AOL Instant = Messenger at Mattb0611, or email me (AIM preferred), then I'd appreciate = it. I'd just like to get a little help with my questions. Thanks! Hello! I am getting started with seriously using the RIS to build robots. I have been poking around the Internet and right now I feel very lost about quite a few things. I currently have 1.0 (I got it a while ago!), however, supposedly I upgraded the software to 1.5 and it's on the way in the mail. If someone could contact me over AOL Instant Messenger at Mattb0611, or email me (AIM preferred), then I'd appreciate it. I'd just like to get a little help with my questions. Thanks!
lugnet.robotics:16200 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 18 Lines: 17 20,25c21,25 I was playing on GameSpy when the flashed an advert for Camelot, a = LEGO video. When searching for another download site (fileplanet has 350 = + minute waits now), I found this short. It is what I wish Mindstorms = could really do. Please check it out at = www.brickfilms.topcities.com/directory_shorts.html and scroll down to = near the bottom of the list, the movie is called: My Coolest LEGO = I was playing on GameSpy when the flashed an advert for Camelot, a LEGO video. When searching for another download site (fileplanet has 350 + minute waits now), I found this short. It is what I wish Mindstorms could really do. Please check it out at www.brickfilms.topcities.com/directory_shorts.html and scroll down to near the bottom of the list, the movie is called: My Coolest LEGO
lugnet.robotics:16216 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,23c21,24 I am a senior Robotics student studying assesmbly planning algorithms. I = am looking at mechanism designing using Contact Space. I wanted to know = does there exsist tools which can determine complexity of a lego = mechanism (on the bases of disassembly sequences) or any realted stuff. I am a senior Robotics student studying assesmbly planning algorithms. I am looking at mechanism designing using Contact Space. I wanted to know does there exsist tools which can determine complexity of a lego mechanism (on the bases of disassembly sequences) or any realted stuff.
lugnet.robotics:16231 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 47 Lines: 44 20,22c21 Could it be as simple (and I'm only half serious) as smashing the = structure and counting the bricks? LOL each brick requires one = assembly step so: Could it be as simple (and I'm only half serious) as smashing the structure and counting the bricks? LOL each brick requires one assembly step so: 24c23 number of bricks =3D number of assembly steps =3D complexity number of bricks = number of assembly steps = complexity 27,29c26,28 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Waymire, Russel (NM75)=20 To: 'Manu Prakash' ; lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Waymire, Russel (NM75) To: 'Manu Prakash' ; lego-robotics@crynwr.com 34c33 Are you looking for some kind of absolute Reduction algorithm (proven = Are you looking for some kind of absolute Reduction algorithm (proven 36,37c35,36 =20 Russel=20 Russel 46,50c45,48 I am a senior Robotics student studying assesmbly planning = algorithms. I am looking at mechanism designing using Contact Space. I = wanted to know does there exsist tools which can determine complexity of = a lego mechanism (on the bases of disassembly sequences) or any realted = stuff. I am a senior Robotics student studying assesmbly planning algorithms. I am looking at mechanism designing using Contact Space. I wanted to know does there exsist tools which can determine complexity of a lego mechanism (on the bases of disassembly sequences) or any realted stuff.
lugnet.robotics:16232 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 81 Lines: 76 20,21c21,22 I agree to Russel. Cause usually assembly lines are not necessarily = linear. Its beneficial to have parrallel assesmbly. I agree to Russel. Cause usually assembly lines are not necessarily linear. Its beneficial to have parrallel assesmbly. 23,27c24,28 Another fact is complexity is determined by spatial location and = orientation of the brick, number of degree of freedom it has in this = configration and maybe alternative sequences possible to arrive at this = configration. Not always is it the case that a lego design is layered. = Thus acessebilty of everybrick is very different in different designs.=20 Another fact is complexity is determined by spatial location and orientation of the brick, number of degree of freedom it has in this configration and maybe alternative sequences possible to arrive at this configration. Not always is it the case that a lego design is layered. Thus acessebilty of everybrick is very different in different designs. 30,33c31,34 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Waymire, Russel (NM75)=20 To: 'chrisbrenizer' ; Waymire, Russel (NM75) ; 'Manu Prakash' ; = lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Waymire, Russel (NM75) To: 'chrisbrenizer' ; Waymire, Russel (NM75) ; 'Manu Prakash' ; lego-robotics@crynwr.com 38,43c39,44 Yes, but what happens if you could construct the structure in fewer = steps by parallelizing the process. It seems that this approach will = take into account any inherent repetitiveness within the building = process. I think the complexity of a process should include these type = of details which may be left out of any straight forweard approach. =20 Yes, but what happens if you could construct the structure in fewer steps by parallelizing the process. It seems that this approach will take into account any inherent repetitiveness within the building process. I think the complexity of a process should include these type of details which may be left out of any straight forweard approach. 52,54c53 Could it be as simple (and I'm only half serious) as smashing the = structure and counting the bricks? LOL each brick requires one = assembly step so: Could it be as simple (and I'm only half serious) as smashing the structure and counting the bricks? LOL each brick requires one assembly step so: 56c55 number of bricks =3D number of assembly steps =3D complexity number of bricks = number of assembly steps = complexity 59,61c58,60 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Waymire, Russel (NM75)=20 To: 'Manu Prakash' ; lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Waymire, Russel (NM75) To: 'Manu Prakash' ; lego-robotics@crynwr.com 66,69c65,68 Are you looking for some kind of absolute Reduction algorithm = (proven mathematically) that can rate how complex a lego structure is? =20 Russel=20 Are you looking for some kind of absolute Reduction algorithm (proven mathematically) that can rate how complex a lego structure is? Russel 78,82c77,80 I am a senior Robotics student studying assesmbly planning = algorithms. I am looking at mechanism designing using Contact Space. I = wanted to know does there exsist tools which can determine complexity of = a lego mechanism (on the bases of disassembly sequences) or any realted = stuff. I am a senior Robotics student studying assesmbly planning algorithms. I am looking at mechanism designing using Contact Space. I wanted to know does there exsist tools which can determine complexity of a lego mechanism (on the bases of disassembly sequences) or any realted stuff. 88,91c86,87 manup@cse.iitk.ac.in IIT Kanpur, Robotics = Lab India = 208016 manup@cse.iitk.ac.in IIT Kanpur, Robotics Lab India 208016
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lugnet.robotics:16272 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Hello all,=20 Today I got my new Vision Command system. Could any of you guide me to = some cool stuff ( pictures )people have done with this set. Hello all, Today I got my new Vision Command system. Could any of you guide me to some cool stuff ( pictures )people have done with this set.
lugnet.robotics:16279 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,24c22,25 I wanted to buy something like 10 mindstorms for a robotics course at = our university. Can somebody tell where I can order them online, and any cheap bets = available right now I wanted to buy something like 10 mindstorms for a robotics course at our university. Can somebody tell where I can order them online, and any cheap bets available right now
lugnet.robotics:16294 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Well done. All the more reason to be proud of your website as well.=20 Well done. All the more reason to be proud of your website as well. 20c21 Thanks,=20 Thanks, 22c23 Microsoft Research=20 Microsoft Research 24,26c25,27 cell: (425) 418-9642=20 =20 =20 cell: (425) 418-9642 29c30 From: JP Brown [mailto:envcons@ameritech.net]=20 From: JP Brown [mailto:envcons@ameritech.net] 48d48
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lugnet.robotics:16358 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 Why is it easier to debug? How would you compare Lejos with NQC in = ease of debugging. =09 Why is it easier to debug? How would you compare Lejos with NQC in ease of debugging. 25c26 From: Juergen Stuber [mailto:stuber@loria.fr]=20 From: Juergen Stuber [mailto:stuber@loria.fr] 33c34 > > and I heard about LegOS and LejOS, I=B4m worry about the > > and I heard about LegOS and LejOS, I´m worry about the 36c37 >=20 > 40c41 >=20 > 55c56 J=FCrgen Jürgen 57,58c58,59 --=20 J=FCrgen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr> -- Jürgen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr> 60d60
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lugnet.robotics:16420 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,23c19 Mindstorms V2 works fine with XP, I've heard vision control doesn't.=20 Thanks,=20 John=20 =20 Mindstorms V2 works fine with XP, I've heard vision control doesn't. 24a21,23 Thanks, John
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lugnet.robotics:16456 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 57 Lines: 51 20c21 Oh no, big disappointment! The content list for this book looked really = Oh no, big disappointment! The content list for this book looked really 23,27c24,28 I did notice some oddness in the availability. Barnes & Nobles took = orders early this year, but later announced a delay until October 31. Amazon just show "limited availability". Other online resellers = announced shipment in January. I justed ordered from BN, but I guess the = book won't materialize. I did notice some oddness in the availability. Barnes & Nobles took orders early this year, but later announced a delay until October 31. Amazon just show "limited availability". Other online resellers announced shipment in January. I justed ordered from BN, but I guess the book won't materialize. 31,32c32,33 Maybe we could track Gordon McComb, and organize a purchase of his = material by lego-robotics list members? Maybe we could track Gordon McComb, and organize a purchase of his material by lego-robotics list members? 38c39 ----- Original Message -----=20 ----- Original Message ----- 46c47 >=20 > 48,53c49,51 >=20 > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > > ================================================================ > 57c55 >=20 > 59c57 >=20 > 64,70c62,65 >=20 > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 >=20 > > ================================================================= > > 72,78c67,71 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > > >
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lugnet.robotics:16536 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 I'm new to robotics and this is my next step further my knowledge.=20 I'm new to robotics and this is my next step further my knowledge. 24c25 Thanks,=20 Thanks, 26,28c27 =20
lugnet.robotics:16544 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 22,23c23,24 I have tried to order the Killer Mindstorms Robots book by Gordon McComb = for some time, I have tried to order the Killer Mindstorms Robots book by Gordon McComb for some time, 25,28c26,28 Now it appears that Amazon has it - but only via a reseller that will = not ship internationally. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0071370404/ref=3Dpd_rhf_p_1/107-72= 21626-7844560 Now it appears that Amazon has it - but only via a reseller that will not ship internationally. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0071370404/ref=pd_rhf_p_1/107-7221626-7844560 31,32c31,32 Several cancellations of the book ... Amazon only selling via a reseller = ... weird ... Several cancellations of the book ... Amazon only selling via a reseller ... weird ... 34c34 It seems far out, but then again, Lego did cancel a set ...=20 It seems far out, but then again, Lego did cancel a set ... 37,38d36
lugnet.robotics:16648 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 37 Lines: 36 22,28c23,28 I expect to go to Brickwest in CA in February, and if anybody on this = list are going too, and interested in buying CM's, I could bring some. The price will be 100 USD. Regular price at launch = was more than 200 USD. Of course, CM's could be mailed too, but I'd rather not hassle with = mailing - and it will be expensive, because the box (suitcase) is big = and heavy. I expect to go to Brickwest in CA in February, and if anybody on this list are going too, and interested in buying CM's, I could bring some. The price will be 100 USD. Regular price at launch was more than 200 USD. Of course, CM's could be mailed too, but I'd rather not hassle with mailing - and it will be expensive, because the box (suitcase) is big and heavy. 30,31c30,31 An important point is that I need orders confirmed within this weekend, = because the store ends the sale by next week (Monday 10th). An important point is that I need orders confirmed within this weekend, because the store ends the sale by next week (Monday 10th). 33,36c33,36 CM is a radio-controlled robot building set. CM was launched only in = Europe, simultaneously with Mindstorms 1.0 in US. The programming is less flexible than MS, but CM is a nice supplement to = MS, not the least for parts (900 pieces, e.g touch sensors, motor etc). CM is a radio-controlled robot building set. CM was launched only in Europe, simultaneously with Mindstorms 1.0 in US. The programming is less flexible than MS, but CM is a nice supplement to MS, not the least for parts (900 pieces, e.g touch sensors, motor etc). 38,39c38,39 Beware the suitcase is in plastic/cardboard, not metallic like on the = LUGNET picture, 8482. Beware the suitcase is in plastic/cardboard, not metallic like on the LUGNET picture, 8482.
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lugnet.robotics:16809 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 I have had trouble posting but not receiving messages. I think I = have the problem solved. If not, please let me know what I need to do to = resolve this issue. I have had trouble posting but not receiving messages. I think I have the problem solved. If not, please let me know what I need to do to resolve this issue.
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lugnet.robotics:16838 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Someone can help me about multitask in legOS i don't understand a = programm for that don't compile .... Someone can help me about multitask in legOS i don't understand a programm for that don't compile ....
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lugnet.robotics:16877 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25c26 "la cuill=E8re n'existe pas" "la cuillère n'existe pas"
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lugnet.robotics:16903 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 44c45 Set oSpirit =3D CreateObject("Spirit.SpiritCtrl.1") Set oSpirit = CreateObject("Spirit.SpiritCtrl.1") 53c54 From: Andreas Stabno [mailto:similego@home.com]=20 From: Andreas Stabno [mailto:similego@home.com] 60,64c61,65 >What version of RcxCC and/or NQC are you using? Old versions had=20 >trouble with the larger firmware files (such as firm0328.lgo). Grab=20 >the latest version of RcxCC (now called BricxCC) from=20 >http://members.aol.com/johnbinder/bricxcc.htm or alternatively you can=20 >just replace the nqc.exe file with a more recent version from=20 >What version of RcxCC and/or NQC are you using? Old versions had >trouble with the larger firmware files (such as firm0328.lgo). Grab >the latest version of RcxCC (now called BricxCC) from >http://members.aol.com/johnbinder/bricxcc.htm or alternatively you can >just replace the nqc.exe file with a more recent version from 67c68 >> Also, is this firmware different from that contained in the Vision=20 >> Also, is this firmware different from that contained in the Vision
lugnet.robotics:16905 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 From: Nathan Nesbit=20 From: Nathan Nesbit 56c57 Set oSpirit =3D CreateObject("Spirit.SpiritCtrl.1") Set oSpirit = CreateObject("Spirit.SpiritCtrl.1") 65c66 From: Andreas Stabno [mailto:similego@home.com]=20 From: Andreas Stabno [mailto:similego@home.com] 73,76c74,77 >trouble with the larger firmware files (such as firm0328.lgo). Grab=20 >the latest version of RcxCC (now called BricxCC) from=20 >http://members.aol.com/johnbinder/bricxcc.htm or alternatively you can=20 >just replace the nqc.exe file with a more recent version from=20 >trouble with the larger firmware files (such as firm0328.lgo). Grab >the latest version of RcxCC (now called BricxCC) from >http://members.aol.com/johnbinder/bricxcc.htm or alternatively you can >just replace the nqc.exe file with a more recent version from
lugnet.robotics:16907 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 21c22 with the book "lego mindstorms" by dirk louis and peter m=FCller with the book "lego mindstorms" by dirk louis and peter müller 34,37c35 > Now I only need to find a free Visual Basic compiler if such a thing exi= sts. > Now I only need to find a free Visual Basic compiler if such a thing exists.
lugnet.robotics:16913 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 30 Lines: 26 21,26c22,24 > This "working model" is also available with quite a few beginner's books= on > VB6. It is also limited in that you can only have 2 forms/modules in you= r > project, which is fine when just trying stuff out but a real pain when y= ou > This "working model" is also available with quite a few beginner's books on > VB6. It is also limited in that you can only have 2 forms/modules in your > project, which is fine when just trying stuff out but a real pain when you 31,32c29 > I can't remember if it allows you to add "custom controls" to a form so = you > I can't remember if it allows you to add "custom controls" to a form so you 35,36c32,33 it does. i use it with spirit.ocx for some test programs or simple rcx pro= gramming. it does. i use it with spirit.ocx for some test programs or simple rcx programming. 43c40 >> with the book "lego mindstorms" by dirk louis and peter m=FCller >> with the book "lego mindstorms" by dirk louis and peter müller 49,50d45
lugnet.robotics:16953 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25c26 there's a kernel-module http://legousb.sourceforge.net . But I don't=20 there's a kernel-module http://legousb.sourceforge.net . But I don't 28,29c29,30 I successfully compiled it, created a new devicefile /dev/usb/tower0=20 with major/minor 180/240 and modprobe'd the module. My tower is=20 I successfully compiled it, created a new devicefile /dev/usb/tower0 with major/minor 180/240 and modprobe'd the module. My tower is 32,38c33,39 BTW I use vmware-WS 3.0 for linux (it has USB-support) with linux as=20 host and win98 as guest. I compile with nqc under linux and finally=20 dowload the binary with nqc in win98-vmware. It works the most time but=20 long binarys or firmware downloads get interrupted. I don't know if=20 this is a general problem of the vmware USB support (they say that=20 streaming devices don't work, e.g. webcams) or if my machine is too=20 slow (with USB enabled vmware the system part of my CPU is nearly 100%=20 BTW I use vmware-WS 3.0 for linux (it has USB-support) with linux as host and win98 as guest. I compile with nqc under linux and finally dowload the binary with nqc in win98-vmware. It works the most time but long binarys or firmware downloads get interrupted. I don't know if this is a general problem of the vmware USB support (they say that streaming devices don't work, e.g. webcams) or if my machine is too slow (with USB enabled vmware the system part of my CPU is nearly 100% 42d42
lugnet.robotics:16967 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 45 Lines: 40 25,30c26,30 =46rom your previous work I know you also put the schematics on your site= =2E As someone who wants to hold a solder iron sometimes, I'm very interested. I still r= emember your great idea of using FETS to get a good power supply from the 2 unkno= wn wires From your previous work I know you also put the schematics on your site. As someone who wants to hold a solder iron sometimes, I'm very interested. I still remember your great idea of using FETS to get a good power supply from the 2 unknown wires 33,34c33,34 Maybe this information could be of interest to you (for the next generati= on ?), see Maybe this information could be of interest to you (for the next generation ?), see 36,42c36,41 Technische spec.: Halfkogelvormige Fresnell-lens, =C6-25 mm voor eenv= oudige montage =B7 Voedingsspanning 3 - 12V/2 mA =B7 Open-collector-uitgang 30 V/20 mA =B7 Reikwijdte 12 m =B7= Openingshoek 120=B0 =B7 Signaalbandbreedte 0,2 Hz tot 10 Hz =B7 Temperatuur -20 tot +70=B0C =B7 Afm. 25 x 25 x 20 mm Technische spec.: Halfkogelvormige Fresnell-lens, Æ-25 mm voor eenvoudige montage · Voedingsspanning 3 - 12V/2 mA · Open-collector-uitgang 30 V/20 mA · Reikwijdte 12 m · Openingshoek 120° · Signaalbandbreedte 0,2 Hz tot 10 Hz · Temperatuur -20 tot +70°C · Afm. 25 x 25 x 20 mm 44,45c43 Although it's in Dutch, you probably can read it (otherwise I could trans= late it Although it's in Dutch, you probably can read it (otherwise I could translate it 47,48c45 They had others too (from Seltec, even somewhat smaller) but I can't find= them They had others too (from Seltec, even somewhat smaller) but I can't find them 56,61c53,57 > Techno-stuff is pleased to announce the availability of a Passive Infra= -Red > (PIR) sensor. This sensor detects motion of people and other warm anim= als. It > is similar to the motion detectors used in lights and burglar alarms. = For more > Techno-stuff is pleased to announce the availability of a Passive Infra-Red > (PIR) sensor. This sensor detects motion of people and other warm animals. > It > is similar to the motion detectors used in lights and burglar alarms. For > more 64d59
lugnet.robotics:17030 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 not your political views. =20 not your political views. 26c27 From: Sean Watson [mailto:SeanWatson@ec.rr.com]=20 From: Sean Watson [mailto:SeanWatson@ec.rr.com] 42c43 =20 47c48 From: TBruceNYC@aol.com [mailto:TBruceNYC@aol.com]=20 From: TBruceNYC@aol.com [mailto:TBruceNYC@aol.com] 59c60 big Dam projects. The interstate Highway system, communication,=20 big Dam projects. The interstate Highway system, communication, 62,63c63,64 and=20 people were=20 and people were 69c70 lobbyists. Global multinational corporate greed.=20 lobbyists. Global multinational corporate greed. 71c72 people=20 people 73c74 Pennsylvania are unemployed. People have to work for $5.50 an hour, and=20 Pennsylvania are unemployed. People have to work for $5.50 an hour, and 75c76 the=20 the 78,79c79,80 overseas=20 that=20 overseas that 81c82 questionable=20 questionable 83c84 dealers,=20 dealers, 86c87 And All that's left is, corporate greed, big oil, big banking, and the=20 And All that's left is, corporate greed, big oil, big banking, and the 93c94 cannot give it away. =20 cannot give it away. 136c137 oodles=20 oodles 152c153 oily=20 oily 169,170d169
lugnet.robotics:17056 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,27c20,26 I've just recently been introduced to another world known as Lego = Robotics. And i have some quesitons about it. Where have people found = the best places to pick up accessories for it? I've been looking around = and it looks like most everyone uses lego Technics as the main building = blocks of lego robotics. What kits are the best to have as far as variety = in pieces goes? Any extra information that people could/would reccommend = for a newbie to lego robotics would be greatly appreciated. I've just recently been introduced to another world known as Lego Robotics. And i have some quesitons about it. Where have people found the best places to pick up accessories for it? I've been looking around and it looks like most everyone uses lego Technics as the main building blocks of lego robotics. What kits are the best to have as far as variety in pieces goes? Any extra information that people could/would reccommend for a newbie to lego robotics would be greatly appreciated.
lugnet.robotics:17078 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Why does the datalog not work for you? =20 Why does the datalog not work for you? 21c22 From: Rob Reed [mailto:robert_hilman@hotmail.com]=20 From: Rob Reed [mailto:robert_hilman@hotmail.com] 47,48c48,49 >Well..I did kinda, Some foreground information is needed before I can=20 >explain that. The lego touch sensors arent simple toggle throw type=20 >Well..I did kinda, Some foreground information is needed before I can >explain that. The lego touch sensors arent simple toggle throw type 51c52 >ranging ( for example ) 0 to 100, where 0 is no touch at all, and 100=20 >ranging ( for example ) 0 to 100, where 0 is no touch at all, and 100 56c57 >theory you could use the RAW touch sensor data to determine when each=20 >theory you could use the RAW touch sensor data to determine when each 59,61c60,62 >I work as a programmer for a living, so I dont like getting into the=20 >programming part as much as the pure mechanical building of the legos,=20 >so I never wrote a program to determine if that rotation sensor=20 >I work as a programmer for a living, so I dont like getting into the >programming part as much as the pure mechanical building of the legos, >so I never wrote a program to determine if that rotation sensor 74,75c75,76 >>If so, great (because finally we've a destination for that terrible=20 >>sensor), does it work well ? If not so (maybe also great) but what is=20 >>If so, great (because finally we've a destination for that terrible >>sensor), does it work well ? If not so (maybe also great) but what is 77d77
lugnet.robotics:17092 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 27 Lines: 26 20,21c21,22 Software for individual control of several RCX's, through one IR tower, = via a multi-joypad setup, is available at=20 Software for individual control of several RCX's, through one IR tower, via a multi-joypad setup, is available at 29c30 ----- Original Message -----=20 ----- Original Message ----- 37,39c38,39 >=20 > Sorry if this was discused before but is it possible to control or = program > > Sorry if this was discused before but is it possible to control or program 46,48c46 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:17093 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26c27 From: Steve Baker [mailto:sjbaker1@airmail.net]=20 From: Steve Baker [mailto:sjbaker1@airmail.net] 35,36c36,37 > Sorry if this was discused before but is it possible to control or=20 > program for example two RCX bricks with one tower from one PC so they=20 > Sorry if this was discused before but is it possible to control or > program for example two RCX bricks with one tower from one PC so they 62d62
lugnet.robotics:17097 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 48 Lines: 44 20,25c21,26 The Studios software can actually work with other cams (at least it = works with my Creative cam). The trick is to alter the Registry entry to the name of your other cam = (noted from System Control Panel). Likewise, I would guess that the Pinnacle package can work with Legocam = if you change the similar Registry entry. The Studios software can actually work with other cams (at least it works with my Creative cam). The trick is to alter the Registry entry to the name of your other cam (noted from System Control Panel). Likewise, I would guess that the Pinnacle package can work with Legocam if you change the similar Registry entry. 32,33c33,34 There is also, among other, an entry for video output format, but when I = try to change that, There is also, among other, an entry for video output format, but when I try to change that, 43c44 ----- Original Message -----=20 ----- Original Message ----- 50,51c51,52 > Posted on behalf of J=F8rgen Rygh: >=20 > Posted on behalf of Jørgen Rygh: > 53,55c54,55 >=20 > FYI - LEGO is considering to make the Studio CD available separately = as they > > FYI - LEGO is considering to make the Studio CD available separately as they 57c57 >=20 > 59,63c59,60 > = http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage.asp?Product_ID=3D122&Langue_ID=3D7= > does NOT work with the LEGO camera (been there, tried that). It has = been > http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage.asp?Product_ID=122&Langue_ID=7 > does NOT work with the LEGO camera (been there, tried that). It has been 65c62 >=20 > 67,69c64 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:17099 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 i have a problem. I want to program a windows to send RCX message but i = have a problem ... My problem that i can send Byte but the rcx don't = know them. I follow the rcx internal instruction but it don't work !! i have a problem. I want to program a windows to send RCX message but i have a problem ... My problem that i can send Byte but the rcx don't know them. I follow the rcx internal instruction but it don't work !! 30c31 "la cuill=E8re n'existe pas" "la cuillère n'existe pas"
lugnet.robotics:17103 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 80 Lines: 68 21,24c22,23 Maybe you could be a little more specific what your problems are, because= : - sending data through the IR tower can simply be done by sending bytes= to the Maybe you could be a little more specific what your problems are, because: - sending data through the IR tower can simply be done by sending bytes to the 26,29c25,26 - sending messages / direct and indirect commands through the IR tower = can be done by either spirit.ocx (Lego), fakespirit (John Hansen) or by building= the - sending messages / direct and indirect commands through the IR tower can be done by either spirit.ocx (Lego), fakespirit (John Hansen) or by building the 31,32c28 - the RCX understands only packet information (which is equal for messa= ges and - the RCX understands only packet information (which is equal for messages and 37,38c33 You could also look for example to one of my pages, which also contains a= number You could also look for example to one of my pages, which also contains a number 41,42c36 http://baserv.uci.kun.nl/~smientki/Lego_Knex/Lego_electronica/IR_tower/IR= _tower.htm http://baserv.uci.kun.nl/~smientki/Lego_Knex/Lego_electronica/IR_tower/IR_tower.htm 49,50c43 > I need help of mindstormer programmer (like D. BAUM or other. For expla= in me > I need help of mindstormer programmer (like D. BAUM or other. For explain me 58c51 > "la cuill=E8re n'existe pas" > "la cuillère n'existe pas" 69,75c62,65 > > >i have a problem. I want to program a windows to send RCX message b= ut i > =3D > > >have a problem ... My problem that i can send Byte but the rcx don't= =3D > > >know them. I follow the rcx internal instruction but it don't work != ! > > >i have a problem. I want to program a windows to send RCX message but i > = > > >have a problem ... My problem that i can send Byte but the rcx don't = > > >know them. I follow the rcx internal instruction but it don't work !! 77,78c67 > > >Someone can help me to write a program who can send RCX message in V= B ?? > > >Someone can help me to write a program who can send RCX message in VB ?? 85c74 > > http://news.lugnet.com/robotics/?n=3D16995 > > http://news.lugnet.com/robotics/?n=16995 95c84 > > >"la cuill=E8re n'existe pas" > > >"la cuillère n'existe pas" 99d87
lugnet.robotics:17106 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 41 Lines: 38 19c20 Which command did you send and how did you send it? Did your RCX have=20 Which command did you send and how did you send it? Did your RCX have 24,27c25,26 > i have a problem. I want to program a windows to send RCX message but = > i have a problem ... My problem that i can send Byte but the rcx don't = > i have a problem. I want to program a windows to send RCX message but > i have a problem ... My problem that i can send Byte but the rcx don't 30c29 > =20 > 32,33c31 > Someone can help me to write a program who can send RCX message in VB ?= ? > Someone can help me to write a program who can send RCX message in VB ?? 35c33 > =20 > 39c37 > =20 > 43c41 > =20 > 46c44 > "la cuill=E8re n'existe pas" > "la cuillère n'existe pas"
lugnet.robotics:17114 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,24c22,25 I dont know if anyone would be interrested or if this has come up before = on the group, but heres a nice link that I found today, while searching for = information on gears. I dont know if anyone would be interrested or if this has come up before on the group, but heres a nice link that I found today, while searching for information on gears.
lugnet.robotics:17116 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 53 Lines: 50 20,21c21,22 Yes my rcx have the firmware !! So i send the Byte by the SENDBYTE = command which include in the port.dll which I use Yes my rcx have the firmware !! So i send the Byte by the SENDBYTE command which include in the port.dll which I use 28c29 "la cuill=E8re n'existe pas" "la cuillère n'existe pas" 32,35c33,36 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: PC CHAN=20 To: nanobapt=20 Cc: lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: PC CHAN To: nanobapt Cc: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 40,41c41 Which command did you send and how did you send it? Did your RCX = have the firmware in it? Which command did you send and how did you send it? Did your RCX have the firmware in it? 45,48c45,47 i have a problem. I want to program a windows to send RCX message = but i have a problem ... My problem that i can send Byte but the rcx = don't know them. I follow the rcx internal instruction but it don't work = !! i have a problem. I want to program a windows to send RCX message but i have a problem ... My problem that i can send Byte but the rcx don't know them. I follow the rcx internal instruction but it don't work !! 50,51c49 Someone can help me to write a program who can send RCX message in = VB ?? Someone can help me to write a program who can send RCX message in VB ?? 58,60c56,58 "la cuill=E8re n'existe pas" http://www.mindstorms-bapt.fr.st/=20 http://membres.tripod.fr/mecahp=20 "la cuillère n'existe pas" http://www.mindstorms-bapt.fr.st/ http://membres.tripod.fr/mecahp
lugnet.robotics:17118 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 115 Lines: 108 23,25c24,26 To my understanding from the RCX 2.0 (with usb port) SDK available from=20 Lego, the "byte" would have to be wrapped up in a certain way, such as=20 leading sync bytes plus a number of conditions to form a command for=20 To my understanding from the RCX 2.0 (with usb port) SDK available from Lego, the "byte" would have to be wrapped up in a certain way, such as leading sync bytes plus a number of conditions to form a command for 28,35c29,33 For example the "byte" itself must have a certain bit toggled between=20 commands, followed by the compliment of the "byte". The "byte" also=20 implies the number of bytes of parameters to follow. The parameters=20 should then be paired up with their compliments in the same way. At the = end there should be a sumcheck and its compliment. =20 It is a command in a proper wrapper, the RCX is looking for. We cannot = For example the "byte" itself must have a certain bit toggled between commands, followed by the compliment of the "byte". The "byte" also implies the number of bytes of parameters to follow. The parameters should then be paired up with their compliments in the same way. At the end there should be a sumcheck and its compliment. 36a35 It is a command in a proper wrapper, the RCX is looking for. We cannot 39,44c38,39 There is a send raw command in nqc, you can send raw bytes to send but=20 again the RCX would only respond unless it is a properly formed dcommand.= Please read the documentation in the RCX 2.0 SDK for details. It=20 should be the same for RCX 1.5, since there isn't a separate SDK for RCX = There is a send raw command in nqc, you can send raw bytes to send but again the RCX would only respond unless it is a properly formed dcommand. 45a41,42 Please read the documentation in the RCX 2.0 SDK for details. It should be the same for RCX 1.5, since there isn't a separate SDK for RCX 48,51c45,48 By the way, if you are using nqc (Not Quite C. It is free!), you may=20 try the undocumented -v option. It shows you how each command is being=20 sent and responsed to. In that way you can learn how the wrapper works=20 so that you can do the same in your SENDBYTE. =20 By the way, if you are using nqc (Not Quite C. It is free!), you may try the undocumented -v option. It shows you how each command is being sent and responsed to. In that way you can learn how the wrapper works so that you can do the same in your SENDBYTE. 54,58c51,52 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ========================================================================== ======================== 61c55 > Yes my rcx have the firmware !! So i send the Byte by the SENDBYTE=20 > Yes my rcx have the firmware !! So i send the Byte by the SENDBYTE 64c58 > =20 > 68c62 > =20 > 72c66 > =20 > 75c69 > "la cuill=E8re n'existe pas" > "la cuillère n'existe pas" 103c97 >> =20 >> 108c102 >> =20 >> 112c106 >> =20 >> 116c110 >> =20 >> 119c113 >> "la cuill=E8re n'existe pas" >> "la cuillère n'existe pas"
lugnet.robotics:17140 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Hi All, recently there was a posting from a fellow who had build several = great walking robots.....would someone please send me the page address, = if someone has it. Thanks very much. Jim Scolman. Hi All, recently there was a posting from a fellow who had build several great walking robots.....would someone please send me the page address, if someone has it. Thanks very much. Jim Scolman.
lugnet.robotics:17148 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 40 Lines: 39 20,22c21,23 Thanks for the link -=20 we are wondering if there are any lego clubs or competitions we could go = to (to watch, not compete at) anywhere areound us. Thanks for the link - we are wondering if there are any lego clubs or competitions we could go to (to watch, not compete at) anywhere areound us. 24,25c25,26 Please let us know if anyone knows of any as we are just learning about = the robotics end of Legos - and having fun I might add! :) Please let us know if anyone knows of any as we are just learning about the robotics end of Legos - and having fun I might add! :) 29,31c30,32 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Meyer=20 To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Meyer To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com 38,41c39,42 I dont know if anyone would be interrested or if this has come up = before on the group, but heres a nice link that I found today, while searching for = information on gears. I dont know if anyone would be interrested or if this has come up before on the group, but heres a nice link that I found today, while searching for information on gears. 46,47c47 = http://fredm.www.media.mit.edu/people/fredm/papers/artoflego/cliche.html http://fredm.www.media.mit.edu/people/fredm/papers/artoflego/cliche.html
lugnet.robotics:17214 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 48 Lines: 47 21,22c22 Here is a calendar of events coming up this week - February 2rd - 9th, 2002.= =20 Here is a calendar of events coming up this week - February 2rd - 9th, 2002. 27c27 If you know of an upcoming event of have a robotics club or organization,=20 If you know of an upcoming event of have a robotics club or organization, 44c44 6th Annual Robot Rally=A9 at SciTrek 6th Annual Robot Rally© at SciTrek
lugnet.robotics:17215 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 28,29c29 "dark" is 0V then when the sensor is connected backwards, "light" will be= "dark" is 0V then when the sensor is connected backwards, "light" will be 36d35
lugnet.robotics:17231 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 58 Lines: 46 28,29c29 I've yet to find a working link to _any_ schematic of the light or rotati= on I've yet to find a working link to _any_ schematic of the light or rotation 32,33c32 > It might be simpler to look at it in terms of current flows; "dark" is = no > It might be simpler to look at it in terms of current flows; "dark" is no 36,37c35 Maybe that is the case. = Maybe that is the case. 40,43c38,39 components that amplified or buffered the signal. In which case which way= round the sensor is can give rise to problems unless the the designers ar= e components that amplified or buffered the signal. In which case which way round the sensor is can give rise to problems unless the the designers are 46,47c42 In the case of the light sensor, the input seen by the RCX is the same no= In the case of the light sensor, the input seen by the RCX is the same no 50,51c45 If I replace the sensor with a variable resistor (R) then the sensor valu= e If I replace the sensor with a variable resistor (R) then the sensor value 60,61c54 terminals. = terminals. 64,65c57 one way round. Ok so you put the photodiode inside a bridge rectifier and= one way round. Ok so you put the photodiode inside a bridge rectifier and 68,73c60,62 But secondly, someone mentioned that there is an Op-Amp in the sensor. Th= e signal from the photodiode is buffered. Which brings us back to my origin= al point that it's hard to make a circuit that's connected to just two wires= But secondly, someone mentioned that there is an Op-Amp in the sensor. The signal from the photodiode is buffered. Which brings us back to my original point that it's hard to make a circuit that's connected to just two wires 77d65
lugnet.robotics:17232 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 19 Lines: 16 24,25c25 the IR Tower. = the IR Tower. 28,31c28,29 components I was using were the wrong wavelength and I couldn't get it 10= 0% reliable. So I just fitted a miniature jack socket into the RCX and have = a components I was using were the wrong wavelength and I couldn't get it 100% reliable. So I just fitted a miniature jack socket into the RCX and have a 38d35
lugnet.robotics:17257 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 19 Lines: 16 22c23 > port with no tower and no ir connection? = > port with no tower and no ir connection? 24,26c25 Yes but it needed a couple of transistors to invert the signal and get th= e Yes but it needed a couple of transistors to invert the signal and get the 28,29c27 shell but in the end, I couldn't be bothered with all the fiddly solderin= g shell but in the end, I couldn't be bothered with all the fiddly soldering 38d35
lugnet.robotics:17259 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 37c38 switches on the qnswering machine (pres-release switches)=A0 i will have switches on the qnswering machine (pres-release switches) i will have 56,57d56
lugnet.robotics:17264 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 17 Lines: 14 19c20 Mathias = Mathias 20a22 > could you post the circuit scheme somewhere on the web? 22,26c24 > could you post the circuit scheme somewhere on the web? = Three people replied to an earlier posting of mine to say they would host= Three people replied to an earlier posting of mine to say they would host 36d33
lugnet.robotics:17302 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 12 Lines: 11 21,22c22 I would like to see the diagram. = I would like to see the diagram. 31d30
lugnet.robotics:17303 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 39 Stef = Lines: 29 20a20 Stef 24,29c24,25 The IR LEDs are pulsed on and off at 30kHz - that's on top of the 2400bps= serial signal. I had to remove that 30kHz signal. = That's what the 100nF (on the base of the transistor) is for. = The IR LEDs are pulsed on and off at 30kHz - that's on top of the 2400bps serial signal. I had to remove that 30kHz signal. 30a27 That's what the 100nF (on the base of the transistor) is for. 33,34c30 100nF is too big, the 2400bps deteriorates. If the 100nF is too small, th= e 100nF is too big, the 2400bps deteriorates. If the 100nF is too small, the 37,38c33 The RCX pulls the base of the transistor down and the 470R pulls it up. I= f The RCX pulls the base of the transistor down and the 470R pulls it up. If 43,44c38 470R. Then adjust the 100nF value until you get reliable comms with the P= C. 470R. Then adjust the 100nF value until you get reliable comms with the PC. 46,47c40 > It would even be nicer, if also the IR-sensor could be left in place, b= ut > It would even be nicer, if also the IR-sensor could be left in place, but 51,54c44,45 both high and low (rather than a pullup or pulldown resistor). I removed = it so that my circuit didn't have to fight with it. Try leaving it in and se= e both high and low (rather than a pullup or pulldown resistor). I removed it so that my circuit didn't have to fight with it. Try leaving it in and see 58d48
lugnet.robotics:17343 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 35c36 Do you think it is possible to implement the legOS network protocol for=20 Do you think it is possible to implement the legOS network protocol for 39d39
lugnet.robotics:17349 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 31c32 Nothing special but something like using the palm as external data=20 Nothing special but something like using the palm as external data 36c37 --=20 -- 39d39
lugnet.robotics:17357 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 21,23c22,23 Nosotros somos un grupo de 4 alumnos de la Universidad de Alicante = (Espa=F1a) que esta intentando hacer uno. Nos interesaria cualquier = ayuda al respecto. Nosotros somos un grupo de 4 alumnos de la Universidad de Alicante (España) que esta intentando hacer uno. Nos interesaria cualquier ayuda al respecto.
lugnet.robotics:17361 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 29c30 > From: news-gateway@lugnet.com=20 > From: news-gateway@lugnet.com 34,35c35,36 >=20 >=20 > > 37,39c38,40 > >Sorry to be completely stupid but where is brickwest held? I have a=20 > >feeling it's in america which means that I won't be able to=20 > attend :(.=20 > >Sorry to be completely stupid but where is brickwest held? I have a > >feeling it's in america which means that I won't be able to > attend :(. 41c42 >=20 > 43,45c44,46 >=20 > You DEFINATELY won't be able to attend this year (unless you=20 > have somehow perfec=14ed time-travel!), but you could always=20 > > You DEFINATELY won't be able to attend this year (unless you > have somehow perfeced time-travel!), but you could always 47c48 >=20 > 49c50 >=20 > 51,53c52 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:17364 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 34 Lines: 33 23c24 From: Ahui Herrera [mailto:jedi_agh@yahoo.com]=20 From: Ahui Herrera [mailto:jedi_agh@yahoo.com] 46,48c47,48 >Nosotros somos un grupo de 4 alumnos de la Universidad de Alicante =3D >(Espa=3DF1a) que esta intentando hacer uno. Nos interesaria cualquier = =3D=20 >Nosotros somos un grupo de 4 alumnos de la Universidad de Alicante = >(Espa=F1a) que esta intentando hacer uno. Nos interesaria cualquier = 52d51
lugnet.robotics:17376 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 80 Lines: 72 20,21c21,22 From Lego Studios, I have been able to access other cameras by editing a = line in Registry From Lego Studios, I have been able to access other cameras by editing a line in Registry 26,35c27,35 If you change this value to the name of your alternative cam (name as = noted from System control panel), Studios will use this cam. I imagine something similar could be done = with Vision Command, but I am not sure which entry to edit, and the VC's entries are more = complex Studios'. Oddly, neighboring values define Studios camera resolution, but when I = try to change these, they automatically revert back to the original = values. If you change this value to the name of your alternative cam (name as noted from System control panel), Studios will use this cam. I imagine something similar could be done with Vision Command, but I am not sure which entry to edit, and the VC's entries are more complex Studios'. Oddly, neighboring values define Studios camera resolution, but when I try to change these, they automatically revert back to the original values. 41c41 ----- Original Message -----=20 ----- Original Message ----- 49,55c49,53 >=20 > Over the past few months I've been able to borrow quite a few web cams = and only=20 > the Logitech USB ones work (which makes sense considering the Lego cam = is=20 > Logitech), except for a parallel port QuickCam VC (back when Logitech = was=20 > > Over the past few months I've been able to borrow quite a few web cams and > only > the Logitech USB ones work (which makes sense considering the Lego cam is > Logitech), except for a parallel port QuickCam VC (back when Logitech was 57,63c55,59 >=20 > The VC software gives an error in the tour saying a USB camera cannot = be=20 > detected. The computer I was playing with didn't have a USB port so I = couldn't=20 > bypass the tours and try the normal VC software with the parallel = cam... I'll=20 > > The VC software gives an error in the tour saying a USB camera cannot be > detected. The computer I was playing with didn't have a USB port so I > couldn't > bypass the tours and try the normal VC software with the parallel cam... I'll 65,82c61,75 >=20 > I wanted to see if the original camera drivers would work for each cam = I tried,=20 > so I never installed the Lego Cam drivers (even for the Lego Cam = itself, as it=20 > works with the other Logitech drivers). No matter what model Logitech = cam I=20 > hooked up, it always worked with VC (except the parallel port = version). >=20 > What I'm wondering is how the camera is accessed. If the VC software = is using=20 > standard access methods under Windows but checking to see if the = driver for the=20 > device is "Logitech", then perhaps one could re-brand drivers for = other devices=20 > to bluff the system into thinking they are Logitech USB cams, such as = an X10=20 > > I wanted to see if the original camera drivers would work for each cam I > tried, > so I never installed the Lego Cam drivers (even for the Lego Cam itself, as it > > works with the other Logitech drivers). No matter what model Logitech cam I > hooked up, it always worked with VC (except the parallel port version). > > What I'm wondering is how the camera is accessed. If the VC software is using > > standard access methods under Windows but checking to see if the driver for > the > device is "Logitech", then perhaps one could re-brand drivers for other > devices > to bluff the system into thinking they are Logitech USB cams, such as an X10 84,88c77,81 >=20 > If anyone has looked into any of this, or if there's a replacement for = VC that=20 > overcomes this video source limitation, please post, especially if = someone has=20 > > If anyone has looked into any of this, or if there's a replacement for VC that > > overcomes this video source limitation, please post, especially if someone has > 90c83 >=20 > 93,94c86,87 >=20 >=20 > > 99,101c92 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:17395 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 68 Lines: 66 19,32c20,31 It appears a great way to test this would be to use a simple torque = wrench. Use a metal axle, (to show stress at this connection). A metal = axle will also not twist to give a false reading on the wrench. Fix a = point at the gear teeth. Loading up the gear to failure will give actual = data on the differences. Using another torque wrench on the teeth will = give the load thru the gear...but would not be of any use (unless not = knowing that will cause you to loose sleep) If hardening the plastic is anything like metal, you would expect the gear = to be tougher, but more brittle. While in the plane of the gear this would = be fine, any mechanism which would induce out of plane stresses would not = do as well with the 2 way shear. Also, the gear would be better under = constant strain, but the shock of start or stop under load could be = reduced. It appears a great way to test this would be to use a simple torque wrench. Use a metal axle, (to show stress at this connection). A metal axle will also not twist to give a false reading on the wrench. Fix a point at the gear teeth. Loading up the gear to failure will give actual data on the differences. Using another torque wrench on the teeth will give the load thru the gear...but would not be of any use (unless not knowing that will cause you to loose sleep) If hardening the plastic is anything like metal, you would expect the gear to be tougher, but more brittle. While in the plane of the gear this would be fine, any mechanism which would induce out of plane stresses would not do as well with the 2 way shear. Also, the gear would be better under constant strain, but the shock of start or stop under load could be reduced. 79c78 Pictures: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3D132064=20 Pictures: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=132064 86,88c85 http://www.arnesson.nu/lotek/=20 http://www.arnesson.nu/lotek/
lugnet.robotics:17447 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Hi, I have a laptop sony, and I wonder if I can used the laptop=B4s IR = port to downloads the programs and use LNP? Hi, I have a laptop sony, and I wonder if I can used the laptop´s IR port to downloads the programs and use LNP? 24,28c25,29 I=B4m using Windows 2000 but i could use Linux if i need to . I don=B4t = know much about linux :( I=B4m using LegOS 0.2.5 =20 =20 I´m using Windows 2000 but i could use Linux if i need to . I don´t know much about linux :( I´m using LegOS 0.2.5
lugnet.robotics:17452 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Hi, I downloaded the WinLNP and set it up, but i can=B4t make a = communication beetewn the the IR Tower and RCX. Hi, I downloaded the WinLNP and set it up, but i can´t make a communication beetewn the the IR Tower and RCX.
lugnet.robotics:17471 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 44 Lines: 43 19,31c20,32 I think you'll find most underwater ROV are on a tether....took difficult = to control (and lose) without one. Fiber optic cable would suffice with = IR. This cable can be had fairly cheaply. I get mine as leftover pieces = from FO cable installers for networks. I have had some success with waterproofing by putting rubber bands in = while putting the blocks together...the bands are coated with Vasolene.. messy but works pretty good...havent tested too deep yet. There is also = the issue with the static pressure vs dynamic pressure in moving objects. = Just as your watch may state 200 meter depth, this assumes you are not = moving. Simple movement exponetially increases the pressure. Thats why you = watch will leak at 20m depth, not the stated 200m. I think you'll find most underwater ROV are on a tether....took difficult to control (and lose) without one. Fiber optic cable would suffice with IR. This cable can be had fairly cheaply. I get mine as leftover pieces from FO cable installers for networks. I have had some success with waterproofing by putting rubber bands in while putting the blocks together...the bands are coated with Vasolene.. messy but works pretty good...havent tested too deep yet. There is also the issue with the static pressure vs dynamic pressure in moving objects. Just as your watch may state 200 meter depth, this assumes you are not moving. Simple movement exponetially increases the pressure. Thats why you watch will leak at 20m depth, not the stated 200m. 38c39 http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/12/science/12AQUE.html=20 http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/12/science/12AQUE.html 45c46 http://www.arcticus.com/Lego=20 http://www.arcticus.com/Lego 58c59 --=20 -- 60,65c61,62 New WCS 5 Demo Version! http://www.3DNature.com/demo/=20 "There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist." = - Xen New WCS 5 Demo Version! http://www.3DNature.com/demo/ "There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist." - Xen
lugnet.robotics:17473 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 Hi, I=B4m having a problem downloading a problem to the RCX, when a try = to download the program, apeear a the messenge "error creating program". = Do you any idea what could be causing this problem? Hi, I´m having a problem downloading a problem to the RCX, when a try to download the program, apeear a the messenge "error creating program". Do you any idea what could be causing this problem?
lugnet.robotics:17510 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 d/l it and burn it to a CD for you.=20 d/l it and burn it to a CD for you. 26c27 From: Bas [mailto:b.van.kesteren53@zonnet.nl]=20 From: Bas [mailto:b.van.kesteren53@zonnet.nl] 43,44c44,45 >Have you installed the Visual Studio service packs? You stated that=20 >you had reinstalled Visual Studio... so I am guessing that it is=20 >Have you installed the Visual Studio service packs? You stated that >you had reinstalled Visual Studio... so I am guessing that it is 47c48 >I can't guarentee that this will solve THIS problem, but I know from=20 >I can't guarentee that this will solve THIS problem, but I know from 52,53c53,54 >It is huge, so I hope you have a fast connection... but VS sp5 is=20 >available:=20 >It is huge, so I hope you have a fast connection... but VS sp5 is >available: 59c60 >"bas" <b.van.kesteren53@zonnet.nl> wrote in message=20 >"bas" <b.van.kesteren53@zonnet.nl> wrote in message 63c64 >> I've LegOS up and running under Win2000 whit Cycwin and this works=20 >> I've LegOS up and running under Win2000 whit Cycwin and this works 66,67c67,68 >> I missed the possibility of networking under LegOS. After reading=20 >> some manuals I discovered WinLNP. So I downloaded this program And=20 >> I missed the possibility of networking under LegOS. After reading >> some manuals I discovered WinLNP. So I downloaded this program And 73c74 >> c:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\comutil.h(101)=20 >> c:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\comutil.h(101) 83c84 >> c:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\comutil.h(101)=20 >> c:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\comutil.h(101) 93,95c94,96 >> I know, it says to read the technical support help, but I don't have=20 >> MSDN, so I also don't have the technical support help. I already=20 >> tried to reinstall Visual C++, but the problem is still there. Can=20 >> I know, it says to read the technical support help, but I don't have >> MSDN, so I also don't have the technical support help. I already >> tried to reinstall Visual C++, but the problem is still there. Can 99d99
lugnet.robotics:17511 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 24 33,36c34,35 > suitable for experimenting with such things as robotics. But once the des= igns > grow beyond simple experimentation it quickly becomes obvious that the nu= mber > suitable for experimenting with such things as robotics. But once the designs > grow beyond simple experimentation it quickly becomes obvious that the number 38,41c37,38 > insufficient. That=B9s why Elektor Electronics presents the I2C-interface f= or > this Lego brick. An entirely new world is opened up: in principle, no few= er > insufficient. That¹s why Elektor Electronics presents the I2C-interface for > this Lego brick. An entirely new world is opened up: in principle, no fewer 47,48d43
lugnet.robotics:17518 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 130 Lines: 121 26,27c27 so you would be able to learn all about the i2c protocol. (look to the firs= t so you would be able to learn all about the i2c protocol. (look to the first 36,37c36 > //=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D > //=========================================================================== 39,40c38 > // Description: Single-Master I2C bus communication functions which enabl= es > // Description: Single-Master I2C bus communication functions which enables 42,43c40 > // Remarks: This program requires special hardware on Sensor Ports 1 = & 2 > // Remarks: This program requires special hardware on Sensor Ports 1 & 2 53,55c50,51 > //=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > //=========================================================================== > 58c54 >=20 > 64c60 >=20 > 68c64 >=20 > 73c69 >=20 > 82,83c78,79 >=20 >=20 > > 89c85 >=20 > 97c93 >=20 > 100c96 >>=20 >> 106c102 >>=20 >> 108c104 >>>=20 >>> 115,118c111,112 >>> insufficient. That=B9s why Elektor Electronics presents the I2C-interface= for >>> this Lego brick. An entirely new world is opened up: in principle, no f= ewer >>> insufficient. That¹s why Elektor Electronics presents the I2C-interface for >>> this Lego brick. An entirely new world is opened up: in principle, no fewer 120,122c114,115 >=20 > That's very cool - I've been advocating the use of I2C for Lego robotics = for > > That's very cool - I've been advocating the use of I2C for Lego robotics for 124,126c117,118 >=20 > I'm not sure I'd bother with the interface to the RCX though - I was thin= king > > I'm not sure I'd bother with the interface to the RCX though - I was thinking 128c120 >=20 > 135,136c127,128 >=20 >=20 > > 138c130 --=20 -- 150,151d141
lugnet.robotics:17527 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 37c38 --=20 -- 39c40 Departamento de Inform=E1tica - Universidade do Minho Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho 41,42d41
lugnet.robotics:17535 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 33 Lines: 32 18,19c19,20 I remember seeing a web site which described how to convert a serial IR = tower to a USB one. Perhaps that would solve your problem. I remember seeing a web site which described how to convert a serial IR tower to a USB one. Perhaps that would solve your problem. 22c23 From: Schiedermeier Reinhard [mailto:rs@cs.fhm.edu]=20 From: Schiedermeier Reinhard [mailto:rs@cs.fhm.edu] 30,32c31,33 >=20 > > The reason is that my laptop doesn't have a serial port. Lego says=20 > > IR and USB<->Serial does not work... but I don't want to buy 2.0 to=20 > > > The reason is that my laptop doesn't have a serial port. Lego says > > IR and USB<->Serial does not work... but I don't want to buy 2.0 to 34c35 >=20 > 36c37 >=20 > 38,41c39,41 I think this is not entirely true: Depending on your USB controller it = may work quite well. I have used USB-towers with Linux 2.4.16, NQC = 2.4.r2 in a class last week. They ran for 6 whole days on 12 machines = without any significant problems. I think this is not entirely true: Depending on your USB controller it may work quite well. I have used USB-towers with Linux 2.4.16, NQC 2.4.r2 in a class last week. They ran for 6 whole days on 12 machines without any significant problems. 45,47c45,47 >=20 > J=FCrgen >=20 > > Jürgen > 49c49 > J=FCrgen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr> > Jürgen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr> 51d50
lugnet.robotics:17544 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 24 Hi Bill = Lines: 21 20a20 Hi Bill 33,34c33 I'm be keen to set up such a club at my son's school (when he's a year or= I'm be keen to set up such a club at my son's school (when he's a year or 38,39c37 Weren't the equipment setup costs expensive - or do you just provide it a= ll Weren't the equipment setup costs expensive - or do you just provide it all 43d40
lugnet.robotics:17558 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 From: Julian Gomez [mailto:jeg@polished-pixels.com]=20 From: Julian Gomez [mailto:jeg@polished-pixels.com] 36,37d36
lugnet.robotics:17574 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23,26c24 >=20 now *that* would be cool=20 > 27a26 now *that* would be cool
lugnet.robotics:17600 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 52 Lines: 49 18,19c19 Try looking at the mechanisms at = http://www.brockeng.com/mechanism/index.htm. Try looking at the mechanisms at http://www.brockeng.com/mechanism/index.htm. 46,47c46 looks like it should work quite nicely. When I turn this = contraption looks like it should work quite nicely. When I turn this contraption 63,64c62 ----------------------------- Steve Baker = ------------------------------- ----------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------------- 70d67
lugnet.robotics:17654 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 147 Lines: 124 22,23c23 Again, my apologies for the crappy photos... but I think you'll get the = idea. Again, my apologies for the crappy photos... but I think you'll get the idea. 25,27c25,26 There are some other parts of interest in the Bohrok sets that may be = useful... especially if someone is trying to make circular objects or = frames. There are some other parts of interest in the Bohrok sets that may be useful... especially if someone is trying to make circular objects or frames. 29,30c28,29 While I'm on the "Yes, Bionicles can be useful" subject... The original = Bionicle bodies work great as monster-truck frame pieces. While I'm on the "Yes, Bionicles can be useful" subject... The original Bionicle bodies work great as monster-truck frame pieces. 47,62c46,56 = =20 Robert Limbaugh = =20 <rlimbaugh@greenfiel To: = "'sjbaker1@airmail.net'" <sjbaker1@airmail.net> =20 dgroup.com> cc: Lego = Robotics <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> =20 Subject: RE: = Discontinuous motion. =20 04/03/2002 03:03 PM = =20 = =20 = =20 Robert Limbaugh <rlimbaugh@greenfiel To: "'sjbaker1@airmail.net'" <sjbaker1@airmail.net> dgroup.com> cc: Lego Robotics <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> Subject: RE: Discontinuous motion. 04/03/2002 03:03 PM 67,68c61 "Va's") figures. They have two new gear pieces... one is a 1/4 of a = full "Va's") figures. They have two new gear pieces... one is a 1/4 of a full 71,72c64 of sorts) and the other new gear piece's are 2 arms with gears on each = end of sorts) and the other new gear piece's are 2 arms with gears on each end 93,94c85 > problem. Instead of the problem being gear mesh, the new problem = should > problem. Instead of the problem being gear mesh, the new problem should 103,106c94,95 building primitive mechanical computers in general led me to try to = build a simple adding machine using gears and stuff. (I'm aware of the = awesome building primitive mechanical computers in general led me to try to build a simple adding machine using gears and stuff. (I'm aware of the awesome 109,110c98 So, the first step was to build a counter - like a car odometer - where = you So, the first step was to build a counter - like a car odometer - where you 125,130c113,115 So, your suggestion certainly does do what I actually asked for - but = it's not accurate enough for what I actually *want*. If the system doesn't = use some kind of solid gear-based mechanism, it'll gradually accumulate = error So, your suggestion certainly does do what I actually asked for - but it's not accurate enough for what I actually *want*. If the system doesn't use some kind of solid gear-based mechanism, it'll gradually accumulate error 133,134c118 > If the drive wheel arm rotates to quickly, the drive wheel may not = grip > If the drive wheel arm rotates to quickly, the drive wheel may not grip 136,137c120 > 2nd wheel enough. Or, it may grip too well and make the 2nd wheel = spin > 2nd wheel enough. Or, it may grip too well and make the 2nd wheel spin 149,156c132,135 That's interesting. I didn't know they worked like that. By an = *amazing* coincidence, my son has just finished building one of those in Lego - = but he used RCX software to alternate the direction of drive on the wheels = to sync with the speed he wants the ship to swing. Your way is *much* = better! That's interesting. I didn't know they worked like that. By an *amazing* coincidence, my son has just finished building one of those in Lego - but he used RCX software to alternate the direction of drive on the wheels to sync with the speed he wants the ship to swing. Your way is *much* better! 158,159c137 ----------------------------- Steve Baker = ------------------------------- ----------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------------- 165,169d142
lugnet.robotics:17671 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 31c32 > From: news-gateway@lugnet.com=20 > From: news-gateway@lugnet.com 36,39c37,40 >=20 >=20 > The upcoming SpyBots are listed for preorder at Amazon. No=20 > pictures yet, but the names and a short description are given=20 > > > The upcoming SpyBots are listed for preorder at Amazon. No > pictures yet, but the names and a short description are given 41c42 >=20 > 45,46d45
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lugnet.robotics:17700 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 I called wisc.edu's computer department to see if they could shed some = light on these Antigen messages. I called wisc.edu's computer department to see if they could shed some light on these Antigen messages. 23,24c24,25 They are aware of the problem (although they didn't know this email = group was affected) and are attempting to resolve the issue. They are aware of the problem (although they didn't know this email group was affected) and are attempting to resolve the issue. 29,31d29
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lugnet.robotics:17706 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 44 Lines: 41 20,30c21,30 The problem is because Antigen (a virus scanning program) isn't = configured properly at on an Exchange 2000 mail server in a university = in Wisconsin. None of the messages it claims had virii were infected. I called the University earlier to let them know what was going on to = our mailing list. They said they were working on solving the problem. = That was hours ago. It would be nice if someone could disable ANTIGEN_PELLIG@fpm.wisc.edu = from being able to post messages to crynwr.com. I'm surprised it hasn't = been done already. The problem is because Antigen (a virus scanning program) isn't configured properly at on an Exchange 2000 mail server in a university in Wisconsin. None of the messages it claims had virii were infected. I called the University earlier to let them know what was going on to our mailing list. They said they were working on solving the problem. That was hours ago. It would be nice if someone could disable ANTIGEN_PELLIG@fpm.wisc.edu from being able to post messages to crynwr.com. I'm surprised it hasn't been done already. 40c40 Subject: Re: Antigen Notification:Antigen found VIRUS=3D VHP-361 Subject: Re: Antigen Notification:Antigen found VIRUS= VHP-361 55,56c55 >Antigen for Exchange found Body of Message infected with VIRUS=3D = VHP-361 >Antigen for Exchange found Body of Message infected with VIRUS= VHP-361 58,59c57 >The file is currently Cleaned. The message, "Re: RIS parts questions", = was >The file is currently Cleaned. The message, "Re: RIS parts questions", was 62,64d59
lugnet.robotics:17707 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 41 Lines: 38 20,23c21,23 During the day all I got were messages (about one hundred) referring to = virus stuff. Fortunately our messaging servers are all protected against = virus and all messages from the list were cleaned before reaching my = mailbox. During the day all I got were messages (about one hundred) referring to virus stuff. Fortunately our messaging servers are all protected against virus and all messages from the list were cleaned before reaching my mailbox. 29,30c29,30 Banco Ita=FA S.A. S=E3o Paulo Banco Itaú S.A. São Paulo 35c35 De: rols@rols.org [mailto:rols@rols.org]=20 De: rols@rols.org [mailto:rols@rols.org] 38,39c38,39 Assunto: Re: Antigen Notification:Antigen found VIRUS=3D VHP-361 = (CA(InoculateIT )) virus Assunto: Re: Antigen Notification:Antigen found VIRUS= VHP-361 (CA(InoculateIT )) virus 52,53c52 >Antigen for Exchange found Body of Message infected with VIRUS=3D = VHP-361 >Antigen for Exchange found Body of Message infected with VIRUS= VHP-361 55,56c54 >The file is currently Cleaned. The message, "Re: RIS parts questions", = was >The file is currently Cleaned. The message, "Re: RIS parts questions", was 59,61d56
lugnet.robotics:17718 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Hi, I want to how could i increse the porwer of the IR in the RCX? = Thank you so much.... Hi, I want to how could i increse the porwer of the IR in the RCX? Thank you so much....
lugnet.robotics:17734 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 89 Lines: 83 18,26c19,27 Besides turning off virus scanning software (which shouldn't be = necessary), make sure you have the latest update drivers for your = computer hardware. If that doesn't work, then the problem is most = likely a hardware resource allocation problem. Many systems (especially pre-built ones, such as Compaq's) like to share = IRQs unnecessarily, especially IRQ11 for USB and Video. Generally, this = isn't a problem unless multiple devices are competing for the = processor's attention at once. Besides turning off virus scanning software (which shouldn't be necessary), make sure you have the latest update drivers for your computer hardware. If that doesn't work, then the problem is most likely a hardware resource allocation problem. Many systems (especially pre-built ones, such as Compaq's) like to share IRQs unnecessarily, especially IRQ11 for USB and Video. Generally, this isn't a problem unless multiple devices are competing for the processor's attention at once. 30,31c31,32 Video: IRQ11 (If I can't adjust this manually, then I don't share any = thing else with it) Video: IRQ11 (If I can't adjust this manually, then I don't share any thing else with it) 34,35c35,36 USB: IRQ9/2 (IRQ9 and IRQ2 are a shared IRQ) (OK to share this with = most other devices) USB: IRQ9/2 (IRQ9 and IRQ2 are a shared IRQ) (OK to share this with most other devices) 39,61c40,60 If your computer DOES NOT have a video capture card and DOES allow you = to turn off "IRQ for VGA", you can gain access to IRQ11 for other = devices. If you only need one physical COM port, the 2nd one can be disabled = which frees up IRQ3. Most people use two IDE channels on their computers to improve = performance. If standard CD-ROM performance isn't a big issue, IRQ15 = can be freed up by turning off the Secondary channel and placing the = hard drive and CD-ROM drive on the same cable (HD as Master, CD as = Slave). SCSI cards tend to throw these general settings out the window... in = such cases, I remove network and sound cards to reconfigure SCSI cards = and then add the network card, then sound. It also helps to set LPT ports to "Bi-Directional" or "EPP" instead of = "ECP". ECP uses a DMA and most printers don't need it. (Generally, = only Fax-Printer-Scanner combo's need the ECP function). Many newer = printers won't have their full features available if "Standard" or = "Output Only" is chosen. You'd be amazed at how many seemingly = un-related problems can be resolved by changing this setting. If your computer DOES NOT have a video capture card and DOES allow you to turn off "IRQ for VGA", you can gain access to IRQ11 for other devices. If you only need one physical COM port, the 2nd one can be disabled which frees up IRQ3. Most people use two IDE channels on their computers to improve performance. If standard CD-ROM performance isn't a big issue, IRQ15 can be freed up by turning off the Secondary channel and placing the hard drive and CD-ROM drive on the same cable (HD as Master, CD as Slave). SCSI cards tend to throw these general settings out the window... in such cases, I remove network and sound cards to reconfigure SCSI cards and then add the network card, then sound. It also helps to set LPT ports to "Bi-Directional" or "EPP" instead of "ECP". ECP uses a DMA and most printers don't need it. (Generally, only Fax-Printer-Scanner combo's need the ECP function). Many newer printers won't have their full features available if "Standard" or "Output Only" is chosen. You'd be amazed at how many seemingly un-related problems can be resolved by changing this setting. 76,79c75,76 I have/had the same sorts of problems with my Intel USB cam. I found = that updating drivers and turning off my anti-virus software made it about = 75% I have/had the same sorts of problems with my Intel USB cam. I found that updating drivers and turning off my anti-virus software made it about 75% 90,91c87 > I have vision command installed on a Gateway PC running Win 98 SE. = Vision > I have vision command installed on a Gateway PC running Win 98 SE. Vision 94,95c90 > hangs up.. The PC hangs up, camera wont respond with current images, = just > hangs up.. The PC hangs up, camera wont respond with current images, just 107,110d101
lugnet.robotics:17747 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 57 Lines: 54 22,23c23,24 I got some questions. For those not interested in my pre-LegoMindstorm = history, go diretly to THE POINTS I got some questions. For those not interested in my pre-LegoMindstorm history, go diretly to THE POINTS 25,36c26,36 HISTORY: I learned to program in Basic in 1985 on a Commandore Vic20 and = was fantacising about connecting mechanical items to my computer and = make programs to manage them. Two years later, a friend of me borrowed = the computer. When I got it back, it was broken. Unfortunately I did not = continue with computer programming.=20 Last year I had a kind of "boy-revival". I wanted to start "the dream" = again. From people I met, I learned that I needed to program the ports = of the computer to manage external devices. I started to learn JAVA, but = I'm not sure if that's a good language for my purpose; I got "old" = computers from friends of mine to experiment with; and started my little = research. HISTORY: I learned to program in Basic in 1985 on a Commandore Vic20 and was fantacising about connecting mechanical items to my computer and make programs to manage them. Two years later, a friend of me borrowed the computer. When I got it back, it was broken. Unfortunately I did not continue with computer programming. Last year I had a kind of "boy-revival". I wanted to start "the dream" again. From people I met, I learned that I needed to program the ports of the computer to manage external devices. I started to learn JAVA, but I'm not sure if that's a good language for my purpose; I got "old" computers from friends of mine to experiment with; and started my little research. 39,40c39,40 As a suprise I got a Lego Mindstorm set (LM-set) for Christmas. However, = I'm not totally satisfied with the LM-set: As a suprise I got a Lego Mindstorm set (LM-set) for Christmas. However, I'm not totally satisfied with the LM-set: 42,55c42,53 1. There is no direct contact between the PC and the LM-set. I was = hoping to make use of the capasity of the whole computer (such as = memory, speed, complexity). I understand that having the RCX makes it = easier to make mobile creations and such work, but there's a lot of = other things to make, f.ex. the Satelite uplink by Jerry Kalpin = http://www3.sympatico.ca/jdkalpin, Ice-hockey game (made by myself - not = pictured on net), and so on). 2. I can't program the RCX to make and manipulate mathematical variables = (f.ex: X=3D1, X=3DX+1). One of the first things I wanted to make, was a = car driving around, counting how far it has driven, identifying = obstacles, memorising all these information and having them in mind the = next time it was out driving: to observe, remember and act = "intelligent". 1. There is no direct contact between the PC and the LM-set. I was hoping to make use of the capasity of the whole computer (such as memory, speed, complexity). I understand that having the RCX makes it easier to make mobile creations and such work, but there's a lot of other things to make, f.ex. the Satelite uplink by Jerry Kalpin http://www3.sympatico.ca/jdkalpin, Ice-hockey game (made by myself - not pictured on net), and so on). 2. I can't program the RCX to make and manipulate mathematical variables (f.ex: X=1, X=X+1). One of the first things I wanted to make, was a car driving around, counting how far it has driven, identifying obstacles, memorising all these information and having them in mind the next time it was out driving: to observe, remember and act "intelligent". 58,59c56,57 ad 1. Can I program directly to the ports by using JAVA or should I = learn another language? ad 1. Can I program directly to the ports by using JAVA or should I learn another language? 62,66c60,64 ad 2. I've seen some internet pages for programming the RCX in languages = similar to C (NQC) and Java (http://lejos.sourceforge.net/) . From what = I understand, they do not operate with mathematical variable. - I'm I wrong or not? I'd like to make my LM-set creations more = "intelligent" by using mathematical variables. Any help willl do! ad 2. I've seen some internet pages for programming the RCX in languages similar to C (NQC) and Java (http://lejos.sourceforge.net/) . From what I understand, they do not operate with mathematical variable. - I'm I wrong or not? I'd like to make my LM-set creations more "intelligent" by using mathematical variables. Any help willl do! 69,70c67,68 I'm not sure if these themes are discussed earlier on this mailinglist = or any other place. If it has, please send me copies or links. I'm not sure if these themes are discussed earlier on this mailinglist or any other place. If it has, please send me copies or links. 77,78d74
lugnet.robotics:17748 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 48c49 > From: Stig Anders Mastad [mailto:stigam@student.sv.uio.no]=20 > From: Stig Anders Mastad [mailto:stigam@student.sv.uio.no] 51,52c52,53 > Subject: Not totally satisfied with the Lego Mindstorm=20 > concept: Mathematical variables and direct connection=20 > Subject: Not totally satisfied with the Lego Mindstorm > concept: Mathematical variables and direct connection 54,55c55,56 >=20 >=20 > > 57,58c58,59 >=20 > I got some questions. For those not interested in my=20 > > I got some questions. For those not interested in my 60,72c61,73 >=20 > HISTORY: I learned to program in Basic in 1985 on a=20 > Commandore Vic20 and was fantacising about connecting=20 > mechanical items to my computer and make programs to manage=20 > them. Two years later, a friend of me borrowed the computer.=20 > When I got it back, it was broken. Unfortunately I did not=20 > continue with computer programming.=20 >=20 > Last year I had a kind of "boy-revival". I wanted to start=20 > "the dream" again. From people I met, I learned that I needed=20 > to program the ports of the computer to manage external=20 > devices. I started to learn JAVA, but I'm not sure if that's=20 > a good language for my purpose; I got "old" computers from=20 > > HISTORY: I learned to program in Basic in 1985 on a > Commandore Vic20 and was fantacising about connecting > mechanical items to my computer and make programs to manage > them. Two years later, a friend of me borrowed the computer. > When I got it back, it was broken. Unfortunately I did not > continue with computer programming. > > Last year I had a kind of "boy-revival". I wanted to start > "the dream" again. From people I met, I learned that I needed > to program the ports of the computer to manage external > devices. I started to learn JAVA, but I'm not sure if that's > a good language for my purpose; I got "old" computers from 74c75 >=20 > 76c77 > As a suprise I got a Lego Mindstorm set (LM-set) for=20 > As a suprise I got a Lego Mindstorm set (LM-set) for 78,85c79,86 >=20 > 1. There is no direct contact between the PC and the LM-set.=20 > I was hoping to make use of the capasity of the whole=20 > computer (such as memory, speed, complexity). I understand=20 > that having the RCX makes it easier to make mobile creations=20 > and such work, but there's a lot of other things to make,=20 > f.ex. the Satelite uplink by Jerry Kalpin=20 > http://www3.sympatico.ca/jdkalpin, Ice-hockey > game (made by=20 > > 1. There is no direct contact between the PC and the LM-set. > I was hoping to make use of the capasity of the whole > computer (such as memory, speed, complexity). I understand > that having the RCX makes it easier to make mobile creations > and such work, but there's a lot of other things to make, > f.ex. the Satelite uplink by Jerry Kalpin > http://www3.sympatico.ca/jdkalpin, Ice-hockey > game (made by 87,92c88,93 >=20 > 2. I can't program the RCX to make and manipulate=20 > mathematical variables (f.ex: X=3D1, X=3DX+1). One of the first=20 > things I wanted to make, was a car driving around, counting=20 > how far it has driven, identifying obstacles, memorising all=20 > these information and having them in mind the next time it=20 > > 2. I can't program the RCX to make and manipulate > mathematical variables (f.ex: X=1, X=X+1). One of the first > things I wanted to make, was a car driving around, counting > how far it has driven, identifying obstacles, memorising all > these information and having them in mind the next time it 94c95 >=20 > 96c97 > ad 1. Can I program directly to the ports by using JAVA or=20 > ad 1. Can I program directly to the ports by using JAVA or 99,102c100,103 >=20 > ad 2. I've seen some internet pages for programming the RCX=20 > in languages similar to C (NQC) and Java=20 > (http://lejos.sourceforge.net/) . From what I > understand,=20 > > ad 2. I've seen some internet pages for programming the RCX > in languages similar to C (NQC) and Java > (http://lejos.sourceforge.net/) . From what I > understand, 104c105 > - I'm I wrong or not? I'd like to make my LM-set creations=20 > - I'm I wrong or not? I'd like to make my LM-set creations 106,109c107,110 >=20 >=20 > I'm not sure if these themes are discussed earlier on this=20 > mailinglist or any other place. If it has, please send me=20 > > > I'm not sure if these themes are discussed earlier on this > mailinglist or any other place. If it has, please send me 111,112c112,113 >=20 >=20 > > 114c115 >=20 > 117,120c118,119 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics:17754 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 > That sort of round-trip can easily take a half second or more=20 > That sort of round-trip can easily take a half second or more 22c23 > be a long time if you are rammed against the refrigerator=20 > be a long time if you are rammed against the refrigerator 24c25 > stalled (or your 'MegaDeath Killomatic Blastotron' machine is=20 > stalled (or your 'MegaDeath Killomatic Blastotron' machine is 28,32c29,30 there is a school of thought that says there is no such thing as too = much time spent dismembering cats there is a school of thought that says there is no such thing as too much time spent dismembering cats
lugnet.robotics:17790 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 57 Lines: 53 18,19c19 A few months ago I attempted to discover how VC was accessing the Lego = cam. A few months ago I attempted to discover how VC was accessing the Lego cam. 21,23c21,22 My theory is that VC only cares what driver is being used either due to = contract with Lego or because VC may rely heavily on the Logitech = QuickCam SDK. My theory is that VC only cares what driver is being used either due to contract with Lego or because VC may rely heavily on the Logitech QuickCam SDK. 29,30c28,29 2) Other video sources do not work as valid VC input source (tuner = cards, firewire devices, NTSC capture devices) 2) Other video sources do not work as valid VC input source (tuner cards, firewire devices, NTSC capture devices) 32,41c31,39 3) Several different Logitech cams (not counting the Lego cam) were = tested... ALL worked with the Lego Cam driver and ALL (including the = Lego Cam) worked using the same general USB Logitech driver from = Logitech's download website. ALL appeared to function properly with VC = using either driver. 4) Having a Logitech cam (or Lego cam), a Creative Labs cam, and an = NTSC capture device all plugged into a USB bus, VC fired up using the = Logitech or Lego cam. (NOTE: I did not try having multiple Logitech = Cams plugged in at once). 3) Several different Logitech cams (not counting the Lego cam) were tested... ALL worked with the Lego Cam driver and ALL (including the Lego Cam) worked using the same general USB Logitech driver from Logitech's download website. ALL appeared to function properly with VC using either driver. 4) Having a Logitech cam (or Lego cam), a Creative Labs cam, and an NTSC capture device all plugged into a USB bus, VC fired up using the Logitech or Lego cam. (NOTE: I did not try having multiple Logitech Cams plugged in at once). 43,44c41,42 5) If none of the existing video input sources are cams using Logitech = drivers, VC will display a picture of how to plug in the Lego Cam. 5) If none of the existing video input sources are cams using Logitech drivers, VC will display a picture of how to plug in the Lego Cam. 48,64c46,61 1) Does the Connectix parallel QuickCam VC work with VC? (Connectix = was Logitech's old name. Their site still has drivers that support the = QCVC camera.) 2) What happens if no Logitech or Lego cam drivers are installed in the = system and one attempts to run VC? 3) Does the video area increase to the full capabilities of the better = quality Logitech cams? (In NetMeeting, one can notice the difference in = resolution between different cams.) 4) What happens if more than one cam by Logitech is available in the = system when VC starts? 5) Can a driver for a different brand cam or video source be re-written = to identify itself as a Logitech product? If so, would VC recognize it = and use it? 1) Does the Connectix parallel QuickCam VC work with VC? (Connectix was Logitech's old name. Their site still has drivers that support the QCVC camera.) 2) What happens if no Logitech or Lego cam drivers are installed in the system and one attempts to run VC? 3) Does the video area increase to the full capabilities of the better quality Logitech cams? (In NetMeeting, one can notice the difference in resolution between different cams.) 4) What happens if more than one cam by Logitech is available in the system when VC starts? 5) Can a driver for a different brand cam or video source be re-written to identify itself as a Logitech product? If so, would VC recognize it and use it? 75,76d71
lugnet.robotics:17792 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25,27c26,28 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Goldstein=20 To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Goldstein To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com
lugnet.robotics:17812 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 14 Lines: 13 19,23c20,23 Was wondering if anyone knows of a way to drive 2 axles together. What = i mean is, using 2 motors and a differential or some other gear = mechanism have them both move forward, both backward, or in opposite = directions. I'm sure this has been done before but I can not figure out = how. =20 Was wondering if anyone knows of a way to drive 2 axles together. What i mean is, using 2 motors and a differential or some other gear mechanism have them both move forward, both backward, or in opposite directions. I'm sure this has been done before but I can not figure out how.
lugnet.robotics:17824 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25c26 >=20 > 29c30 >=20 > 32c33 >=20 > 39,40c40 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:17829 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 19,25c20,25 This is my first message to the list, I hope I will contribute a lot to = it. But first I'm trying to improve my robots with a more powerful = programming. I tried RcxCC but it gives me an error because of a class = or dll that isn't registered and I can't load it. If you know how to solve this problem or can help me developing codes by = other means I would be thankfull. This is my first message to the list, I hope I will contribute a lot to it. But first I'm trying to improve my robots with a more powerful programming. I tried RcxCC but it gives me an error because of a class or dll that isn't registered and I can't load it. If you know how to solve this problem or can help me developing codes by other means I would be thankfull.
lugnet.robotics:17856 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 21,23c22,23 I want to know if somebody has tried to connect succesfully the light = and ultrasound sensors from the Cybor robot to RCX. = (www.realrobots.co.uk) I want to know if somebody has tried to connect succesfully the light and ultrasound sensors from the Cybor robot to RCX. (www.realrobots.co.uk)
lugnet.robotics:17890 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 38 Lines: 36 18,24c19,25 I'm glad for the disabling of attachments, forcing people to put textual = links. If I want a file, I'll download it, otherwise it's "wasted = bandwidth" which someone has to pay for. Which operating system and applications are more secure is like = comparing safety/mechanical data sheets between Ford and Chevy and then = never bothering to wear a seatbelt, check tire pressure, add oil. I'm glad for the disabling of attachments, forcing people to put textual links. If I want a file, I'll download it, otherwise it's "wasted bandwidth" which someone has to pay for. Which operating system and applications are more secure is like comparing safety/mechanical data sheets between Ford and Chevy and then never bothering to wear a seatbelt, check tire pressure, add oil. 26,27c27,28 Ironically, a decent set of Lego's is >=3D the price of a decent virus = scanning application. Ironically, a decent set of Lego's is >= the price of a decent virus scanning application. 49,51c50,51 --=20 -russ nelson http://russnelson.com | Okay, enough is = enough! -- -russ nelson http://russnelson.com | Okay, enough is enough! 53,54c53 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | using insecure = Microsoft 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | using insecure Microsoft 56d54
lugnet.robotics:17919 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 25 Lines: 23 20,26c21,25 If it's not critical to monitor/control the motor with the RCX, you = could use Lego's 9V battery box (part #5391 on S@H). It has a = pushbutton-type switch. This saves you a motor port, sensor port, and programming. However, it = is larger and not as easy to mount (in some cases) as the Lego touch = sensor. If it's not critical to monitor/control the motor with the RCX, you could use Lego's 9V battery box (part #5391 on S@H). It has a pushbutton-type switch. This saves you a motor port, sensor port, and programming. However, it is larger and not as easy to mount (in some cases) as the Lego touch sensor. 43,44d41
lugnet.robotics:17931 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 111 Lines: 97 20,22c21,23 Unfortunately, my pictures look like crap, so it'll be a few days before = I post those (at least, the closeups of the guts). In the meantime, = you'll have to suffer with my equally crappy ASCII pictures... Unfortunately, my pictures look like crap, so it'll be a few days before I post those (at least, the closeups of the guts). In the meantime, you'll have to suffer with my equally crappy ASCII pictures... 26,32c27,33 Look at the side of the brush plate with the most metal showing. One = set of brushes (bottom brushes) should be vertical and at the bottom. = The second set (side brushes) should be horizontal and on the right-hand = side of the brushplate. The side of the brushplate without metal is the = "motor side". Their are two opposing clips on the brushplate. One clip = is next to the "side brushes". We'll call this the "right side", and = the other, appropriately, the "left side". Look at the side of the brush plate with the most metal showing. One set of brushes (bottom brushes) should be vertical and at the bottom. The second set (side brushes) should be horizontal and on the right-hand side of the brushplate. The side of the brushplate without metal is the "motor side". Their are two opposing clips on the brushplate. One clip is next to the "side brushes". We'll call this the "right side", and the other, appropriately, the "left side". 34,35c35,36 _________ # denotes metal. The = perpendicular lines are the brushes. _________ # denotes metal. The perpendicular lines are the brushes. 40c41 \###___###/ =20 \###___###/ 42,44c43,45 The motor's "bottom" has rectangular mounts that fit into the Microscout = casing. (They can be seen from the outside of a fully assembled = Microscout, if that helps). Here's ASCII of the relative key shapes: The motor's "bottom" has rectangular mounts that fit into the Microscout casing. (They can be seen from the outside of a fully assembled Microscout, if that helps). Here's ASCII of the relative key shapes: 53,54c54,55 1) The little shaft sticking up out of the motor is a commontator. Set = the motor so this side is up. 1) The little shaft sticking up out of the motor is a commontator. Set the motor so this side is up. 56,67c57,68 2) Gently set the brushplate over the motor and clip the LEFT SIDE down = first. Very carefully move the brushes to fit around the commontator, = but DO NOT BEND THEM! (I used a precision screw driver). The brushes = are forked (like a snake tongue), so make sure both are adjusted. 3) Carefully clip the RIGHT SIDE into place. Do this little-by-little, = checking the brushes to make sure they aren't being improperly bent = against the commontator. When I played around with mine last night, I only worried about the = brush tines that were closest to the motor body and then properly set = the tines closest to me after clipping the brushplate into place. 2) Gently set the brushplate over the motor and clip the LEFT SIDE down first. Very carefully move the brushes to fit around the commontator, but DO NOT BEND THEM! (I used a precision screw driver). The brushes are forked (like a snake tongue), so make sure both are adjusted. 3) Carefully clip the RIGHT SIDE into place. Do this little-by-little, checking the brushes to make sure they aren't being improperly bent against the commontator. When I played around with mine last night, I only worried about the brush tines that were closest to the motor body and then properly set the tines closest to me after clipping the brushplate into place. 72,80c73,79 ___________ =20 *** =20 \ ***** The lines are brushes and the * make up = the com. \***** Both brushes will bend slightly. They = are \*** purposely not tangent to the = commontator.=20 | =20 ___________ *** \ ***** The lines are brushes and the * make up the com. \***** Both brushes will bend slightly. They are \*** purposely not tangent to the commontator. | 84,85c83,84 Good luck! If this doesn't help, I can send you the current pics I have = (even though they are blurry/crappy). Good luck! If this doesn't help, I can send you the current pics I have (even though they are blurry/crappy). 98,99c97 Hmm... Well, you could try www.mindstorms.com (or whatever it is) and = look Hmm... Well, you could try www.mindstorms.com (or whatever it is) and look 101,104c99,100 configuration. I remember looking around that side and seeing some = diagrams and shematics. I have that set too, and I have no intentions of taking = it configuration. I remember looking around that side and seeing some diagrams and shematics. I have that set too, and I have no intentions of taking it 110,127c106,114 >One day, while there was nothing to do, I took apart my Microscout = (came >with the R2D2 droid development kit, or whatever). I had no idea how = the >motor assembly was connected to the rest of the unit, so this was = probably a >bad idea. Anyway, I took the motor off and can not reassemble the = unit. On >the plastic piece to which the motor was attached, there are two sets = of >thin metal strips that come in contact with the motor shaft. Does = anyone >know the correct configuration of these strips? I'm not very hopeful, = but >this is currently the only motorized Lego item I have. I'm looking = forward >to getting RIS 2.0 soon. I'd like to have a motor to play with until = then, >One day, while there was nothing to do, I took apart my Microscout (came >with the R2D2 droid development kit, or whatever). I had no idea how the >motor assembly was connected to the rest of the unit, so this was probably a >bad idea. Anyway, I took the motor off and can not reassemble the unit. On >the plastic piece to which the motor was attached, there are two sets of >thin metal strips that come in contact with the motor shaft. Does anyone >know the correct configuration of these strips? I'm not very hopeful, but >this is currently the only motorized Lego item I have. I'm looking forward >to getting RIS 2.0 soon. I'd like to have a motor to play with until then, 129d115
lugnet.robotics:17967 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 73 Lines: 55 21,22c22 > If you were to design a leg for a bipedal robot, how would you do it? = > If you were to design a leg for a bipedal robot, how would you do it? 24,25c24 > it have a knee, or a moveable ankle? = > it have a knee, or a moveable ankle? 29,30c28 Many years ago, in the days before RCXs, I constructed a few walking bipe= ds Many years ago, in the days before RCXs, I constructed a few walking bipeds 33,34c31 I found the problem with swinging a large weight around to maintain balan= ce I found the problem with swinging a large weight around to maintain balance 38,39c35 the centre of gravity stayed over the foot on the ground. The body was 12= cm the centre of gravity stayed over the foot on the ground. The body was 12cm 41,44c37,38 stud flat plate. Three 40T gears on each side provided (a) front-back dri= ve for the leg (b) flex-extend of the knee (c) tilt of the ankle. Getting th= e stud flat plate. Three 40T gears on each side provided (a) front-back drive for the leg (b) flex-extend of the knee (c) tilt of the ankle. Getting the 47,48c41 The problem with all such knee/ankle designs is steering. I never made a= The problem with all such knee/ankle designs is steering. I never made a 59,60c52 > help in this? = > help in this? 63,68c55,57 they are together the easier it is to transfer the weight from one to the= other. All bipedal walking animals keep their feet as close to the centre= line as they reasonably can. Only bipedal hopping animals keep their feet= they are together the easier it is to transfer the weight from one to the other. All bipedal walking animals keep their feet as close to the centre line as they reasonably can. Only bipedal hopping animals keep their feet 73,76c62,63 they should be steered by taking longer or shorter strides on the left or= right sides. It doesn't work at all well. The design assumes that the fro= nt they should be steered by taking longer or shorter strides on the left or right sides. It doesn't work at all well. The design assumes that the front 78,79c65 longer strides are insufficient to overcome the sideways friction. The fe= et longer strides are insufficient to overcome the sideways friction. The feet 82,85c68,69 My eventual successful design used Ackerman sterring - like a car's front= wheels. The front legs of the walker could turn to one side of the other.= My eventual successful design used Ackerman sterring - like a car's front wheels. The front legs of the walker could turn to one side of the other. 87,88c71 shaft must be the same "kingpin" that each leg steers on. Ackerman sterri= ng shaft must be the same "kingpin" that each leg steers on. Ackerman sterring 92d74
lugnet.robotics:17979 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 30 Lines: 26 18,19c19,20 How about using an free-moving arm in a plane parallel to the "floor"? = (i.e. - like an analog wall clock placed face-up on a table) How about using an free-moving arm in a plane parallel to the "floor"? (i.e. - like an analog wall clock placed face-up on a table) 21,25c22,25 If the arm had a some weight and a wheel on one end and a shaft for a = fulcrum on the other end, the position of the arm would always be (or = move to) the lowest point. Either place the fulcrum shaft directly = through a Lego rotation sensor or use a little gearing to increase = precision. If the arm had a some weight and a wheel on one end and a shaft for a fulcrum on the other end, the position of the arm would always be (or move to) the lowest point. Either place the fulcrum shaft directly through a Lego rotation sensor or use a little gearing to increase precision. 36,37c36 I was wondering if anyone knew of any extremely cheap and easy way of = making I was wondering if anyone knew of any extremely cheap and easy way of making 41,42c40 mercury switches. This would be good for detecting if something is = tilting mercury switches. This would be good for detecting if something is tilting 45,46c43 kind of extremely loose variable resistor or "pot". But I don't know = where kind of extremely loose variable resistor or "pot". But I don't know where 48d44
lugnet.robotics:17993 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 16 Lines: 12 20,25c21,23 = > cheap and easy way of making a tilt sensor = > I'd prefer if it was more analog (like a light sensor). = > cheap and easy way of making a tilt sensor > I'd prefer if it was more analog (like a light sensor). 27,28c25 > kind of extremely loose variable resistor or "pot". = > kind of extremely loose variable resistor or "pot". 35d31
lugnet.robotics:17994 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 103 Lines: 98 18,19c19,20 What I attempted to describe was a single-sensor solution. Hopefully = this ASCII drawings below will help clarify my thoughts... What I attempted to describe was a single-sensor solution. Hopefully this ASCII drawings below will help clarify my thoughts... 21c22 =20 27c28 Wheel or --> | |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DO |] <--- rotation Wheel or --> | |=======O |] <--- rotation 39c40 Wheel or --> | |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D| | =20 Wheel or --> | |=======| | 51,56c52,57 ..... =20 ... ... =20 .. .. =20 . . =20 . . =20 12 . o . 4 =20 ..... ... ... .. .. . . . . 12 . o . 4 62c63 =20 66,67c67,68 Depending how that circle is tilted, gravity will pull the wheel like a = compass needle giving you two axis off one sensor. Depending how that circle is tilted, gravity will pull the wheel like a compass needle giving you two axis off one sensor. 79,80c80 That sounds like a pendulum then... and I'll need to buy a rotation = sensor That sounds like a pendulum then... and I'll need to buy a rotation sensor 95,96c95 fulcrum on the other end, the position of the arm would always be (or = move fulcrum on the other end, the position of the arm would always be (or move 109,110c108 I was wondering if anyone knew of any extremely cheap and easy way of = making I was wondering if anyone knew of any extremely cheap and easy way of making 114,115c112 mercury switches. This would be good for detecting if something is = tilting mercury switches. This would be good for detecting if something is tilting 118,119c115 kind of extremely loose variable resistor or "pot". But I don't know = where kind of extremely loose variable resistor or "pot". But I don't know where 121,122d116
lugnet.robotics:17995 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 45 Lines: 41 23,24c24,25 Online 3D animated modeling of human walking (view can be adjusted to = different angles): Online 3D animated modeling of human walking (view can be adjusted to different angles): 42,45c43,44 > to Lego Bipeds on the web. Although it seems many technicques have = been > tried succesfully, there are new ways coming out constantly. I try to = keep > to Lego Bipeds on the web. Although it seems many technicques have been > tried succesfully, there are new ways coming out constantly. I try to keep 48,51c47,48 I used that in my beginning research on what has been done with Lego = legs. :D I actually was going to it Friday, but Geocities was down all = weekend. I used that in my beginning research on what has been done with Lego legs. :D I actually was going to it Friday, but Geocities was down all weekend. 63,65d59
lugnet.robotics:17997 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 132 Lines: 124 18,19c19,20 For some reason, I didn't consider "centered" as a valid position... = error on my part (big time). For some reason, I didn't consider "centered" as a valid position... error on my part (big time). 21,22c22,23 However, if the weight were spinning constantly, perhaps "center" and = "tilt" could be determined... However, if the weight were spinning constantly, perhaps "center" and "tilt" could be determined... 24,26c25,27 If the speed is constant over a full revolution, then the base must be = centered (or close to it). Where the change in speed of the rotation = occurs is where high/low points could be calculated. If the speed is constant over a full revolution, then the base must be centered (or close to it). Where the change in speed of the rotation occurs is where high/low points could be calculated. 39,40c40 I see what you mean now... though it is only useful when there is a tilt = - I see what you mean now... though it is only useful when there is a tilt - 44,47c44,45 news:73718FFFA963C045BD5B74B2F9B1EBA5170087@gcgpo1.greenfieldgroup.com...= What I attempted to describe was a single-sensor solution. Hopefully = this news:73718FFFA963C045BD5B74B2F9B1EBA5170087@gcgpo1.greenfieldgroup.com... What I attempted to describe was a single-sensor solution. Hopefully this 56c54 Wheel or --> | |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DO |] <--- rotation Wheel or --> | |=======O |] <--- rotation 68c66 Wheel or --> | |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D| | Wheel or --> | |=======| | 108,109c106 That sounds like a pendulum then... and I'll need to buy a rotation = sensor That sounds like a pendulum then... and I'll need to buy a rotation sensor 124,125c121 fulcrum on the other end, the position of the arm would always be (or = move fulcrum on the other end, the position of the arm would always be (or move 138,139c134 I was wondering if anyone knew of any extremely cheap and easy way of = making I was wondering if anyone knew of any extremely cheap and easy way of making 143,144c138 mercury switches. This would be good for detecting if something is = tilting mercury switches. This would be good for detecting if something is tilting 147,148c141 kind of extremely loose variable resistor or "pot". But I don't know = where kind of extremely loose variable resistor or "pot". But I don't know where 150d142
lugnet.robotics:18002 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 21 21,22c22 You need a lightbulb, a piece of polaroid attached to a pendulum, a fixed= You need a lightbulb, a piece of polaroid attached to a pendulum, a fixed 24,25c24 and they're reliable but, of course, still have problems with inertia and= and they're reliable but, of course, still have problems with inertia and 30,33c29,30 seawater. I used a "grain of wheat" lightbulb on one side of the joint an= d a photo-transistor on the other. As the distance between them varied, you= seawater. I used a "grain of wheat" lightbulb on one side of the joint and a photo-transistor on the other. As the distance between them varied, you 37,42c34,36 I recall once glueing a 1mm dia glass tube onto a Selenium solar-cell so = as to measure the level of a (dark) liquid in the tube. In your case, the tu= be could be half of a U-tube to measure tilt. It didn't work very well but a= I recall once glueing a 1mm dia glass tube onto a Selenium solar-cell so as to measure the level of a (dark) liquid in the tube. In your case, the tube could be half of a U-tube to measure tilt. It didn't work very well but a 44,45c38 better (photoresistors have a more linear response). = better (photoresistors have a more linear response). 48d40
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lugnet.robotics:18024 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 27c28 >J=FCrgen >Jürgen 30c31 >J=FCrgen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr> >Jürgen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr> 35,36d35
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lugnet.robotics:18035 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 68 Lines: 59 18,19c19,20 The 40t double-bevel gear is one I haven't seen before. The smaller two = are readily available in the various Bionicle kits. The 40t double-bevel gear is one I haven't seen before. The smaller two are readily available in the various Bionicle kits. 21,36c22,35 Gigamesh interests me because of all those gears, the 12 triple rotors, = and the 18 bogey wheels. Snaptrax, Shadowstrike, and Technojaw all have = pretty common parts in them. The "special" parts all appear to be those = found in Bionicle Bohrok sets. The exception is Technojaw's tie-rod = arms. As you mention, the value must be in the smarts. If we're lucky, = they'll be some moderate combination between the Bionicle Manas and = Mindstorm Scouts. The Spybots appear to have more than one motor output = and the review suggests they have behaviors similar to the ones = programmed into the Scout. Multi-player missions suggest the Spybots = are addressable like the Manas. Hopefully the embedded system won't be locked like the Scout is, and = hopefully they'll respond to IR messages from other Mindstorms stuff. = Otherwise, these Spybots will wear out their novelty rather quickly. Gigamesh interests me because of all those gears, the 12 triple rotors, and the 18 bogey wheels. Snaptrax, Shadowstrike, and Technojaw all have pretty common parts in them. The "special" parts all appear to be those found in Bionicle Bohrok sets. The exception is Technojaw's tie-rod arms. As you mention, the value must be in the smarts. If we're lucky, they'll be some moderate combination between the Bionicle Manas and Mindstorm Scouts. The Spybots appear to have more than one motor output and the review suggests they have behaviors similar to the ones programmed into the Scout. Multi-player missions suggest the Spybots are addressable like the Manas. Hopefully the embedded system won't be locked like the Scout is, and hopefully they'll respond to IR messages from other Mindstorms stuff. Otherwise, these Spybots will wear out their novelty rather quickly. 46,47c45 It looks like it's more along the lines of the micro-scout, but it = sounds a It looks like it's more along the lines of the micro-scout, but it sounds a 53,54c51 I noticed one interesting part- a double-bevel gear that's smaller than = a 40 I noticed one interesting part- a double-bevel gear that's smaller than a 40 58,61c55,56 Target had a panic sell-off of all their mindstorms kits at $99. They = know something! And these spy-bots are clearly not going to affect mindstorms = sales. Target had a panic sell-off of all their mindstorms kits at $99. They know something! And these spy-bots are clearly not going to affect mindstorms sales. 67,68c62 >Thanks to you amazon.com reference, I did some searching and came up = with >Thanks to you amazon.com reference, I did some searching and came up with 74,75c68 >Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be a true MindStorms kit. Here's a = quote >Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be a true MindStorms kit. Here's a quote 79,80c72 >systems. Spybotics, however, is aimed at a slightly younger audience = and >systems. Spybotics, however, is aimed at a slightly younger audience and 86d77
lugnet.robotics:18038 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 > As you mention, the value must be in the smarts. If we're=20 > lucky, they'll be some moderate combination between the=20 > As you mention, the value must be in the smarts. If we're > lucky, they'll be some moderate combination between the 26,27d26
lugnet.robotics:18040 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 26 Lines: 25 18,19c19,20 Just in case you live outside the US or in some area where Lego won't = sell Mana's via Shop@Home, check out these sites: Just in case you live outside the US or in some area where Lego won't sell Mana's via Shop@Home, check out these sites: 21c22 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1734713560 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1734713560 23,24c24 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005BYKI/qid%3D1022878374/103-23= 43982-6940658 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005BYKI/qid%3D1022878374/103-2343982-6940658 26,27c26,27 If you do want to check out Lego's S@H site, the Manas are set #8539. = They also have www.bionicle.com If you do want to check out Lego's S@H site, the Manas are set #8539. They also have www.bionicle.com 38,39c38,39 > As you mention, the value must be in the smarts. If we're=20 > lucky, they'll be some moderate combination between the=20 > As you mention, the value must be in the smarts. If we're > lucky, they'll be some moderate combination between the 44,45d43
lugnet.robotics:18045 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 16 Lines: 14 21,24c22 > Has anyone hacked a direct RS232 interface to the RCX = I did. = > Has anyone hacked a direct RS232 interface to the RCX 25a24 I did. 35d33
lugnet.robotics:18069 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 42 Lines: 30 21,28c22,25 Thanks for the description of your course. I sure hope your students are = up to it - there's a lot there for anyone to learn. Presumably they'll all b= e mechanically competent, just unused to Lego. I can think of several frien= ds who, after your six hours, would still be puzzling over what a gear does.= Thanks for the description of your course. I sure hope your students are up to it - there's a lot there for anyone to learn. Presumably they'll all be mechanically competent, just unused to Lego. I can think of several friends who, after your six hours, would still be puzzling over what a gear does. 32,35c29,30 A gripper that uses one motor to grip and then lift. I'm sure the design = is well known but the basic principle is that two fingers can open and close= A gripper that uses one motor to grip and then lift. I'm sure the design is well known but the basic principle is that two fingers can open and close 37,40c32,33 also swing upwards (about a horizontal axle). The horizontal axle provide= s the drive to the fingers (e.g. by a worm and 24T) but when the force of t= he also swing upwards (about a horizontal axle). The horizontal axle provides the drive to the fingers (e.g. by a worm and 24T) but when the force of the 42,43c35 object. Reversing the motor lowers then releases the object. = object. Reversing the motor lowers then releases the object. 45,46c37 For Cams and Cranks, you could have something like a two-wheel wheelbarro= w For Cams and Cranks, you could have something like a two-wheel wheelbarrow 52,55c43,44 Overshoot and Hunting. I doubt if they'll manage a PID algorithm on an RC= X but you could discuss how a dead-zone is useful. Servos aren't used much = in Overshoot and Hunting. I doubt if they'll manage a PID algorithm on an RCX but you could discuss how a dead-zone is useful. Servos aren't used much in 61,63d49
lugnet.robotics:18071 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 I know this is not really related to Mindstorms, but it=B9s such a beautiful piece of work. And as a devoted Lego fan, it can=B9t be ignored. I know this is not really related to Mindstorms, but it¹s such a beautiful piece of work. And as a devoted Lego fan, it can¹t be ignored. 31,32d31
lugnet.robotics:18076 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 62 Lines: 57 20,21c21,22 I picked up a few 3VDC laser pointer modules from RadioShack recently = for less than $10.00 each. I picked up a few 3VDC laser pointer modules from RadioShack recently for less than $10.00 each. 23,24c24,25 The module is RS#277-1101. Here is a link to a picture of it next to a = 2x4 brick. The module is RS#277-1101. Here is a link to a picture of it next to a 2x4 brick. 30,31c31,32 This appears to be a discontinued item from RS, but I've seen quite a = few of them in several stores. This appears to be a discontinued item from RS, but I've seen quite a few of them in several stores. 42,45c43,44 I have 2 laser pointers hacked up, waiting for me to buy the diodes and = such to finish. :) IIRC, "The Website" has the links, or Lego laser pointer = on I have 2 laser pointers hacked up, waiting for me to buy the diodes and such to finish. :) IIRC, "The Website" has the links, or Lego laser pointer on 57,58c56 > Years ago, there was a thread about hooking up lasers to the RCX = and > Years ago, there was a thread about hooking up lasers to the RCX and 61,64c59,60 > I've recently come into ownership of a few hundred cheap 1.5 volt = lasers > and was wondering if anybody has any cool projects with the RCX and = low > I've recently come into ownership of a few hundred cheap 1.5 volt lasers > and was wondering if anybody has any cool projects with the RCX and low 80,81d75
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lugnet.robotics:18090 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 27c28 From: Ed Manlove [mailto:emanlove@ieee.org]=20 From: Ed Manlove [mailto:emanlove@ieee.org] 45,46c46,47 starte=3D >d=3D20 starte= >d=20 48,49c49,50 wan=3D >ted=3D20 wan= >ted=20 51c52 >--=3D20 >--=20 54d54
lugnet.robotics:18093 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 From: Ralph Hempel [mailto:rhempel@bmts.com]=20 From: Ralph Hempel [mailto:rhempel@bmts.com] 31c32 >=20 > 34c35 >=20 > 54,55c55 --------------------------------------------------------------------=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------
lugnet.robotics:18098 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 25 Lines: 18 20,21c21 > So if you buy RIS 1.5 or 2.0, buy a 9709 too! Two RCXs are at least 2X = fun > So if you buy RIS 1.5 or 2.0, buy a 9709 too! Two RCXs are at least 2X fun 25,36c25,30 This brings up another question I have. Since I will now have two RCX's c= an=20 someone give me a short summary of how to use them? Can both be used from= the=20 Mindstorms software, or is something better required (since I've only had= 2.0=20 a week, I haven't gotten frustrated enough with the Lego software to aban= don=20 it yet)? Any internet pointers, or books that cover the topic? (I apologi= ze=20 if this is a FAQ, or well documented-- I've done a quick web search & cam= e up=20 This brings up another question I have. Since I will now have two RCX's can someone give me a short summary of how to use them? Can both be used from the Mindstorms software, or is something better required (since I've only had 2.0 a week, I haven't gotten frustrated enough with the Lego software to abandon it yet)? Any internet pointers, or books that cover the topic? (I apologize if this is a FAQ, or well documented-- I've done a quick web search & came up 42c36 --=20 -- 45d38
lugnet.robotics:18109 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 28 Lines: 22 20,26c21,25 I've been wondering if anybody has any ideas why they chose to go with IR= as=20 opposed to RF? The substantial limitations of IR make it highly impractic= le=20 for robotics. The only two reasons I can see would be cost or power=20 limitations. I can't imagine that RF would cost much more then IR (but I=20 could be wrong), so I'm assuming it is a power issue.=20 I've been wondering if anybody has any ideas why they chose to go with IR as opposed to RF? The substantial limitations of IR make it highly impracticle for robotics. The only two reasons I can see would be cost or power limitations. I can't imagine that RF would cost much more then IR (but I could be wrong), so I'm assuming it is a power issue. 29,32c28,29 > I have thought about those methods as well, the only problem is when yo= u > don't work with the RCX's for just one robot. When you want to try a li= ttle > I have thought about those methods as well, the only problem is when you > don't work with the RCX's for just one robot. When you want to try a little 37,40c34,35 > "conversation" at a time you can't tell the other robot to wait. If ins= tead > of using IR it used a Radio comm. it would be easier as every robot wou= ld > "conversation" at a time you can't tell the other robot to wait. If instead > of using IR it used a Radio comm. it would be easier as every robot would 45c40 --=20 -- 48d42
lugnet.robotics:18159 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 which runs on the RCX. =20 which runs on the RCX. 24c25 function included in the sample test file the ada/mindstorms stuff. =20 function included in the sample test file the ada/mindstorms stuff. 30c31 procedure Turn (Direction : in Integer ) is=20 procedure Turn (Direction : in Integer ) is 32,37c33,38 if Direction =3D Left then Output_Off(Output =3D> Left_Wheel); Output_Power(Power =3D> Power_Low, Output =3D> Right_Wheel); Output_On_Forward(Output =3D> Right_Wheel); Wait(Hundredths_Of_A_Second =3D> 100); Output_Off(Output =3D> Right_Wheel); if Direction = Left then Output_Off(Output => Left_Wheel); Output_Power(Power => Power_Low, Output => Right_Wheel); Output_On_Forward(Output => Right_Wheel); Wait(Hundredths_Of_A_Second => 100); Output_Off(Output => Right_Wheel); 39,43c40,44 Output_Off(Output =3D> Right_Wheel); Output_Power(Output =3D> Left_Wheel,Power =3D> Power_Low); Output_On_Forward(Output =3D> Left_Wheel); Wait(Hundredths_Of_A_Second =3D> 100); Output_Off(Output =3D> Left_Wheel); Output_Off(Output => Right_Wheel); Output_Power(Output => Left_Wheel,Power => Power_Low); Output_On_Forward(Output => Left_Wheel); Wait(Hundredths_Of_A_Second => 100); Output_Off(Output => Left_Wheel); 49c50 void TURN ( int DIRECTION )=20 void TURN ( int DIRECTION ) 51,52c52,53 {=20 if ( DIRECTION =3D=3D LEFT )=20 { if ( DIRECTION == LEFT ) 54,60c55,61 Off( LEFT_WHEEL ) ;=20 =20 SetPower( RIGHT_WHEEL , 1 ) ;=20 OnFwd( RIGHT_WHEEL ) ;=20 Wait( 100 ) ;=20 Off( RIGHT_WHEEL ) ;=20 =20 Off( LEFT_WHEEL ) ; SetPower( RIGHT_WHEEL , 1 ) ; OnFwd( RIGHT_WHEEL ) ; Wait( 100 ) ; Off( RIGHT_WHEEL ) ; 62c63 else=20 else 64,70c65,71 Off( RIGHT_WHEEL ) ;=20 =20 SetPower( LEFT_WHEEL , 1 ) ;=20 OnFwd( LEFT_WHEEL ) ;=20 Wait( 100 ) ;=20 Off( LEFT_WHEEL ) ;=20 =20 Off( RIGHT_WHEEL ) ; SetPower( LEFT_WHEEL , 1 ) ; OnFwd( LEFT_WHEEL ) ; Wait( 100 ) ; Off( LEFT_WHEEL ) ; 72,75c73,76 =20 =20 =20 }=20 } 78c79 From: Laura O'Grady [mailto:l.ogrady@sympatico.ca]=20 From: Laura O'Grady [mailto:l.ogrady@sympatico.ca] 90c91 of the list on which direction I should go. =20 of the list on which direction I should go. 113d113
lugnet.robotics:18181 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 30 Lines: 29 23,24c24,25 You should find a zip-file of ncq-code, links to the many sites = mentioned by the book, and access to the pdf-version of the book. You should find a zip-file of ncq-code, links to the many sites mentioned by the book, and access to the pdf-version of the book. 28c29 ----- Original Message -----=20 ----- Original Message ----- 35,38c36,39 > What's with the Syngress web site for the Ferrari brothers book on = Mindstorms? The book implies it > contains all sorts of additional info about their book. I registered = and got a password. I must have > What's with the Syngress web site for the Ferrari brothers book on Mindstorms? > The book implies it > contains all sorts of additional info about their book. I registered and got a > password. I must have 40c41 >=20 > 42,44c43,45 > Wayne T. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N, 2,701 feet), = Nevada City, CA >=20 > Wayne T. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N, 2,701 feet), Nevada > City, CA > 46c47 >=20 > 48,51c49 > Imaginarium Museum: = <home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews/imaginarium.html> > Imaginarium Museum: <home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews/imaginarium.html>
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lugnet.robotics:18252 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 109 Steve = Lines: 87 20a20 Steve 24,27c24,25 > arrival time to within (say) a millisecond, then you'd know were you we= re > to within about 30 centimeters. I guess that's do-able with ultrasound= > arrival time to within (say) a millisecond, then you'd know were you were > to within about 30 centimeters. I guess that's do-able with ultrasound 29,34c27 > an RCX programmed in C or machine code using LegOS or something. = If it were me, I'd program a PIC chip to do everything and then deliver t= he results to the RCX. But I'm not a Lego purist. = > an RCX programmed in C or machine code using LegOS or something. 35a29,30 If it were me, I'd program a PIC chip to do everything and then deliver the results to the RCX. But I'm not a Lego purist. 39,40c34 Tradition had it that with three radio beacons and three hyperbolae you'd= Tradition had it that with three radio beacons and three hyperbolae you'd 50,51c44 the helmsman was doing - heading for port, seismic surveying or positioni= ng the helmsman was doing - heading for port, seismic surveying or positioning 53,56c46,47 accordingly. The helmsmen loved it but, unfortunately, the company lost t= he documentation for the code. I'd long since left and no-one could work out= accordingly. The helmsmen loved it but, unfortunately, the company lost the documentation for the code. I'd long since left and no-one could work out 58,59c49 through several generations of products, languages and operating systems.= = through several generations of products, languages and operating systems. 61,63c51 > If you had the sound generation system emit an IR or radio pulse in tim= e > If you had the sound generation system emit an IR or radio pulse in time 75,76c63 With ultrasonics, probably not too hard. And you've got a good idea when = to With ultrasonics, probably not too hard. And you've got a good idea when to 81,82c68 > we use acoustic head-tracking systems = > we use acoustic head-tracking systems 91,92c77 Do you remember how bitpads used to work with an x-y grid of magnetic wir= es Do you remember how bitpads used to work with an x-y grid of magnetic wires 96,97c81 x-y-coordinate back to the robot via IR. (That's how we used to keep trac= k x-y-coordinate back to the robot via IR. (That's how we used to keep track 100,101c84 A rotating barcode scanner and barcodes on the walls has been used severa= l A rotating barcode scanner and barcodes on the walls has been used several 107,108c90 anyone interested in mobile robots.) He recommends that the robot doesn't= anyone interested in mobile robots.) He recommends that the robot doesn't 110,111c92 "If I hit that corner where both antennae get touched then turn right and= "If I hit that corner where both antennae get touched then turn right and 115,116c96 So you build up a linked network of places you've been, what happened the= re So you build up a linked network of places you've been, what happened there 120,121c100 Brooks's papers "Intelligence without Representation" and "Elephants don'= t Brooks's papers "Intelligence without Representation" and "Elephants don't 128d106
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lugnet.robotics:18278 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 57 Lines: 49 18,27c19,27 Since the optical mouse is a miniature camera, the same type of = principal could be applied using the Lego Camera, maybe even with a = custom template in VC. This would at least be an "all lego" solution = (for the purists out there). The focal point could also be adjusted to = give more ground clearance of the 'bot. I believe the PS/2 port is serial based and requires a clock signal from = the "host". On that note, interfacing a PS/2 (and other serial devices) = to an RCX sensor port should be possible either through direct wiring or = using a some form of logic control (PIC) to handle handshaking. Since the optical mouse is a miniature camera, the same type of principal could be applied using the Lego Camera, maybe even with a custom template in VC. This would at least be an "all lego" solution (for the purists out there). The focal point could also be adjusted to give more ground clearance of the 'bot. I believe the PS/2 port is serial based and requires a clock signal from the "host". On that note, interfacing a PS/2 (and other serial devices) to an RCX sensor port should be possible either through direct wiring or using a some form of logic control (PIC) to handle handshaking. 38,46c38,42 One other interesting thing about this idea-- If it works, not only will = you get the optical sensor, but you can probably get up to 5 touch = sensors=20 and a rotation sensor at the same time. I'm not sure how the signal is=20 sent, but will the RCX be able to differentiate between these on a = single=20 port? Or, could you hook it up to two ports & set them up to work = together? One other interesting thing about this idea-- If it works, not only will you get the optical sensor, but you can probably get up to 5 touch sensors and a rotation sensor at the same time. I'm not sure how the signal is sent, but will the RCX be able to differentiate between these on a single port? Or, could you hook it up to two ports & set them up to work together? 60,62c56 > > > = http://www.agilent.com/about/newsroom/features/2002jun19_opticalmice.html= > > > http://www.agilent.com/about/newsroom/features/2002jun19_opticalmice.html 64c58 > > > Agilent makes the optical mice components and has shipped over 12=20 > > > Agilent makes the optical mice components and has shipped over 12 66,67c60 > > > The link above has some explanation of how they work. It's an = interesting > > > The link above has some explanation of how they work. It's an interesting 75,77d67
lugnet.robotics:18280 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 62 Lines: 58 18,24c19,25 When I was younger, my grandmother worked for a newspaper and would = bring home leftover rolls of paper. Usually, the rolls were several = feet wide and had 10-20 feet of paper left on them and they were free. Look up plotter paper suppliers and companies that create = posters/billboards. Plotters can require paper that is over 4 feet = wide. Here are two results from Google: When I was younger, my grandmother worked for a newspaper and would bring home leftover rolls of paper. Usually, the rolls were several feet wide and had 10-20 feet of paper left on them and they were free. Look up plotter paper suppliers and companies that create posters/billboards. Plotters can require paper that is over 4 feet wide. Here are two results from Google: 28,31c29,32 Electrical tape is available in several different colors. Another type = of tape that could fit the bill would be pinstriping tape (available at = automotive stores), which not only comes in various colors, but also = various widths, and pre-made curves. Electrical tape is available in several different colors. Another type of tape that could fit the bill would be pinstriping tape (available at automotive stores), which not only comes in various colors, but also various widths, and pre-made curves. 48,49c49,50 Then, your ant could draw all over the 'floor'. You could put a black = 'wall' around the edge, to keep your robot inside. Then, your ant could draw all over the 'floor'. You could put a black 'wall' around the edge, to keep your robot inside. 51,52c52,53 This also works well for as line following course (with electrical tape) = or a test sumo ring. This also works well for as line following course (with electrical tape) or a test sumo ring. 63,70c64,67 > As I wrote in my last mail I'm planing to build a system for robots = guidance > and communication similar to ants. I can't get a big enough paper and = I > can't paint my floor so anyone has an idea of how to 'draw' a path = without > damaging my floor. The idea of using lego pieces is good but the robot = could > As I wrote in my last mail I'm planing to build a system for robots guidance > and communication similar to ants. I can't get a big enough paper and I > can't paint my floor so anyone has an idea of how to 'draw' a path without > damaging my floor. The idea of using lego pieces is good but the robot could 74c71 >=20 > 76c73 --=20 -- 78,80c75,76 Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free!=20 http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143=20 Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143
lugnet.robotics:18295 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 47 Lines: 39 20,21c21,22 The Ferarri book yalks about some ways to add input or output ports. The=20 option that looks most promising to me is detailed at=20 The Ferarri book yalks about some ways to add input or output ports. The option that looks most promising to me is detailed at 24,28c25,27 =46rom that site: "I'm very Pleased to announce that my latest project the '(MS)2 Expander'= will=20 expand your RCX's ports with very little additional programming. Some of = the=20 From that site: "I'm very Pleased to announce that my latest project the '(MS)2 Expander' will expand your RCX's ports with very little additional programming. Some of the 30c29 =20 32c31 (3 banks of 2 output ports with 2 usable at any one time with full=20 (3 banks of 2 output ports with 2 usable at any one time with full 34c33 =20 36,37c35 (3 banks of 1 output port + 1 RCX direct port & 3 banks of 1 input port = + 2=20 (3 banks of 1 output port + 1 RCX direct port & 3 banks of 1 input port + 2 39c37 =20 41,42c39 (3 banks of 2 input ports with 2 usable at any one time + 1 RCX direct i= nput=20 (3 banks of 2 input ports with 2 usable at any one time + 1 RCX direct input 50,51c47 > I take it again there - Is there some hardware modifications to Mindsto= rm > I take it again there - Is there some hardware modifications to Mindstorm 54,55c50 > modified to a long range laser link - (In case some one got tired to th= e > modified to a long range laser link - (In case some one got tired to the 58,61c53,54 > Also if the IR transmitter could be replaced by the IRDA transmitter th= at > is placed on most of the laptoy these days.. In fact I don't have a se= rial > Also if the IR transmitter could be replaced by the IRDA transmitter that > is placed on most of the laptoy these days.. In fact I don't have a serial 64c57 --=20 -- 67d59
lugnet.robotics:18304 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 92 Lines: 68 18,19c19,20 The ink appears translucent on a dry-erase board or projector because = the surfaces being written on do not absorb the ink. The ink appears translucent on a dry-erase board or projector because the surfaces being written on do not absorb the ink. 22c23 http://www.dickblick.com/zz201/19/products.asp?param=3D0&ig_id=3D3819 http://www.dickblick.com/zz201/19/products.asp?param=0&ig_id=3819 34,39c35,37 >I have built my robot but I'm having some problems with the light = sensor. >Can you give me some advice on wich colors to use to avoid problems or = how >to put the sensor. Maybe it's just a problem of the RCX but I can't get = it >I have built my robot but I'm having some problems with the light sensor. >Can you give me some advice on wich colors to use to avoid problems or how >to put the sensor. Maybe it's just a problem of the RCX but I can't get it 43,44c41 1) Status of pens - colour, newness etc. Reflectance of the base surface = - 1) Status of pens - colour, newness etc. Reflectance of the base surface - 47,48c44 I am using a white board for my playing surface, which is quite = reflective. I am using a white board for my playing surface, which is quite reflective. 51,62c47,52 difference between the line and the bare board. Avoid red and green if = you can, and go for blue and black, wihch are best. With fresh pens with = good nibs and with some pressure down on the board, there was just enough of = a mark for detection with careful calibration. My ant robot actually has = a platform that raises and lowers the pen and pushes down almost so hard = that the robot stops moving; consequently, it makes a great clear line, but = slips difference between the line and the bare board. Avoid red and green if you can, and go for blue and black, wihch are best. With fresh pens with good nibs and with some pressure down on the board, there was just enough of a mark for detection with careful calibration. My ant robot actually has a platform that raises and lowers the pen and pushes down almost so hard that the robot stops moving; consequently, it makes a great clear line, but slips 68,77c58,62 For one experiment I used three light sensors in a V shape at the front = of the robot, with about 5mm clearance and just in front of the turning = point of the robot. It was tracked and this nearness to the pivot allowed a = small change in sensor orientation when the robot turned. Too far from the = centre, the sensors move rapidly away from the line too quickly. This is less of = a For one experiment I used three light sensors in a V shape at the front of the robot, with about 5mm clearance and just in front of the turning point of the robot. It was tracked and this nearness to the pivot allowed a small change in sensor orientation when the robot turned. Too far from the centre, the sensors move rapidly away from the line too quickly. This is less of a 80,81c65 sensors are with regard to the centre of rotation. Also, you don't say = how sensors are with regard to the centre of rotation. Also, you don't say how 83,86c67,68 requirement,, as you can traverse the line with better control. I know = that it is possible with one sensor - especially if you use two colour lines = - requirement,, as you can traverse the line with better control. I know that it is possible with one sensor - especially if you use two colour lines - 90,93c72,73 inputs, using 100% light as an indication of the touch switch being = pushed. This allowed my robot to have three eyes and to feel its surroundings at = the inputs, using 100% light as an indication of the touch switch being pushed. This allowed my robot to have three eyes and to feel its surroundings at the 96,97c76 Now, you need to consider the programming: I mostly use Robolab, which = has Now, you need to consider the programming: I mostly use Robolab, which has 101,104c80,81 problematic. Absolute sensing - e.g. <32 - is more controlable, but = prone to lighting changes, etc. We had a fairly controlled environment and went = for problematic. Absolute sensing - e.g. <32 - is more controlable, but prone to lighting changes, etc. We had a fairly controlled environment and went for 110d86
lugnet.robotics:18311 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 37 Lines: 29 22,23c23 > > Keep in mind that the optical mouse chip detects skidding of the mous= e > > Keep in mind that the optical mouse chip detects skidding of the mouse 25,26c25 > > car it will never send signals about moving left and right. As fine a= s > > car it will never send signals about moving left and right. As fine as 31,32c30 > could use two of these contraptions - on on each side of the robot (or = one > could use two of these contraptions - on on each side of the robot (or one 34,35c32 > speed from the difference in translational output from the two mouse ch= ips. > speed from the difference in translational output from the two mouse chips. 38,39c35 > typical two-wheel-plus-caster/skid robot) if you mounted it far from th= e > typical two-wheel-plus-caster/skid robot) if you mounted it far from the 41,42c37 > chip would give you a pretty accurate idea of the rotational speed of y= our > chip would give you a pretty accurate idea of the rotational speed of your 45,51c40,44 Hmmm... I don't see how that would work. How would a single sensor be abl= e to=20 differentiate between rotational movement and straight forward & back=20 movement? I suppose you would be able to guess since you would know what=20 state the robot was in at any time (turning or straight), but it seems th= at=20 this would introduce a rather large margin of error. Or am I missing=20 Hmmm... I don't see how that would work. How would a single sensor be able to differentiate between rotational movement and straight forward & back movement? I suppose you would be able to guess since you would know what state the robot was in at any time (turning or straight), but it seems that this would introduce a rather large margin of error. Or am I missing 54c47 --=20 -- 57d49
lugnet.robotics:18312 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 52 Lines: 36 20,26c21,24 Nevermind... I was assuming it would be mounted to the left or right of c= enter=20 (thus the rotation would still show up as forward or reverse). After thin= king=20 about it a moment, it occurs to me that by mounting the sensor in front o= f or=20 behind the axis rotation will show up as left or right motion.=20 Nevermind... I was assuming it would be mounted to the left or right of center (thus the rotation would still show up as forward or reverse). After thinking about it a moment, it occurs to me that by mounting the sensor in front of or behind the axis rotation will show up as left or right motion. 31,38c29,32 > > > Keep in mind that the optical mouse chip detects skidding of the mo= use > > > forward - backward - left - right. When fixed on the bottom of a le= go > > > car it will never send signals about moving left and right. As fine= as > > > I can emulate a lego car-like movement with my optical mouse it sen= ds > > > Keep in mind that the optical mouse chip detects skidding of the mouse > > > forward - backward - left - right. When fixed on the bottom of a lego > > > car it will never send signals about moving left and right. As fine as > > > I can emulate a lego car-like movement with my optical mouse it sends 41,44c35,36 > > Right - you only get translational motion - not rotation. However, y= ou > > could use two of these contraptions - on on each side of the robot (o= r > > Right - you only get translational motion - not rotation. However, you > > could use two of these contraptions - on on each side of the robot (or 46,47c38 > > rotational speed from the difference in translational output from the= two > > rotational speed from the difference in translational output from the two 51,54c42,43 > > typical two-wheel-plus-caster/skid robot) if you mounted it far from = the > > center of rotation of the robot. Then, the lateral motion of the mou= se > > typical two-wheel-plus-caster/skid robot) if you mounted it far from the > > center of rotation of the robot. Then, the lateral motion of the mouse 58,65c47,50 > Hmmm... I don't see how that would work. How would a single sensor be a= ble > to differentiate between rotational movement and straight forward & bac= k > movement? I suppose you would be able to guess since you would know wha= t > state the robot was in at any time (turning or straight), but it seems = that > Hmmm... I don't see how that would work. How would a single sensor be able > to differentiate between rotational movement and straight forward & back > movement? I suppose you would be able to guess since you would know what > state the robot was in at any time (turning or straight), but it seems that 69c54 --=20 -- 72d56
lugnet.robotics:18318 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 68 Lines: 59 18,19c19,20 A Killough platform may have 3 motors, but it operates in a X-Y = coordinate plane, not X-Y-Z. A Killough platform may have 3 motors, but it operates in a X-Y coordinate plane, not X-Y-Z. 21c22 The camera is looking for pattern shifts horizontally or vertically, not = The camera is looking for pattern shifts horizontally or vertically, not 24,30c25,29 As long as the axis of the spin is not passing through the field of = vision of the optic sensor, bearings can probably be calculated without = too much trouble. Rethinking the clearance issue... perhaps a Lego magnifying glass could = help. The focal points seem to be around an inch from the lense (or = so). As long as the axis of the spin is not passing through the field of vision of the optic sensor, bearings can probably be calculated without too much trouble. Rethinking the clearance issue... perhaps a Lego magnifying glass could help. The focal points seem to be around an inch from the lense (or so). 44,51c43,47 > Just use the bottom half of the mouse, trimmed as much as possible, as = a=20 > skid plate. It will need to be mounted to allow vertical movement, but = > it should work alright. This wouldn't solve the spin issue, but the=20 > clearance shouldn't be a problem. A nice side benefit is that this=20 > simplifies construction since you don't need to worry about mounting = the=20 > Just use the bottom half of the mouse, trimmed as much as possible, as a > skid plate. It will need to be mounted to allow vertical movement, but > it should work alright. This wouldn't solve the spin issue, but the > clearance shouldn't be a problem. A nice side benefit is that this > simplifies construction since you don't need to worry about mounting the 54,55c50 Yes - I was thinking of some kind of spring-loaded arm pressing the = mouse's Yes - I was thinking of some kind of spring-loaded arm pressing the mouse's 59,61c54,55 >=20 >> I'm certain that the optics need to be insanely close to the surface = they > >> I'm certain that the optics need to be insanely close to the surface they 64c58 >> If such a device was hacked, would placing it in the center of a=20 >> If such a device was hacked, would placing it in the center of a 74,75c68 So, you need TWO mouse-cams - one on each side of the platform. That = should So, you need TWO mouse-cams - one on each side of the platform. That should 79,80c72 ----------------------------- Steve Baker = ------------------------------- ----------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------------- 86,89d77
lugnet.robotics:18348 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 27 Lines: 25 20c21 > thought that with the right lens (or perhaps combination of=20 > thought that with the right lens (or perhaps combination of 22c23 > could use the sensor an inch or two above the surface. It=20 > could use the sensor an inch or two above the surface. It 25c26 > wouldn't it? Wouldn't an optical mouse be designed to sense a=20 > wouldn't it? Wouldn't an optical mouse be designed to sense a 27c28 > surface due more the application than an inherent limitation=20 > surface due more the application than an inherent limitation 30,31c31,32 I agree with you in theory. Unfortunately, I don't have resources in = optics and know very little about them (basic physics class stuff). I agree with you in theory. Unfortunately, I don't have resources in optics and know very little about them (basic physics class stuff). 33,38c34,38 The failure of my test may simply be related to illumination. How = sensitive is the chip to reflected light? Perhaps the lenses I used = would have worked and were positioned correctly, but scattered the = illumination light. Maybe the position/angle of the illumination source = needs to change. Perhaps surrounding light skewed the sensor's ability = to make accurate readings. The failure of my test may simply be related to illumination. How sensitive is the chip to reflected light? Perhaps the lenses I used would have worked and were positioned correctly, but scattered the illumination light. Maybe the position/angle of the illumination source needs to change. Perhaps surrounding light skewed the sensor's ability to make accurate readings. 40,42c40,41 I'll try a shroud around the lense of the magnifying glass and place it = within the surface focal point of the optical mouse and see if that = works. I'll try a shroud around the lense of the magnifying glass and place it within the surface focal point of the optical mouse and see if that works. 45d43
lugnet.robotics:18352 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 58 Lines: 57 18c19 > >=20 > > 26,30c27,31 >=20 >=20 > It appears to me there is a slight mistake here. According=20 > to this, there is no way to distinguish between the first row=20 > and the second. I assume the second should be 10, so it=20 > > > It appears to me there is a slight mistake here. According > to this, there is no way to distinguish between the first row > and the second. I assume the second should be 10, so it 32c33 >=20 > 34,36c35,37 I thought this was an error to, so I spent about an hour triplechecking = my findings. Bear in mind that the scroll wheel doesn't need = 7.5-degree-per-step accuracy, which is what that extra bit would give. I thought this was an error to, so I spent about an hour triplechecking my findings. Bear in mind that the scroll wheel doesn't need 7.5-degree-per-step accuracy, which is what that extra bit would give. 66,68c67,68 As you can see, direction and velocity can be determined. Rapid = oscillations in a 7.5 or 15-degree arc could be problematic if only one = of these was relied on. As you can see, direction and velocity can be determined. Rapid oscillations in a 7.5 or 15-degree arc could be problematic if only one of these was relied on. 70,71c70,71 On the other hand, it's possible I have a mouse with a bad part or = ruined it... too bad I voided the warranty! :) On the other hand, it's possible I have a mouse with a bad part or ruined it... too bad I voided the warranty! :) 76,78d75
lugnet.robotics:18360 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 29 Lines: 20 20,36c21,29 Thanks for asking this question. I've been meaning to do so myself. One o= f the=20 books shows a modified RCX using a 9.6v RC battery pack. Another (or poss= ibly=20 the same one) talks about someone who increased the voltage of rechargabl= es=20 by using 5 AA, 1 2/3AA and 1 1/3AA (at least I think that's the right=20 combination), which results in 9.6V, but for a shorter time. Does anyone = have=20 any comments on these options? How much shorter battery life do you get w= ith=20 the smaller batteries? Do all of the batteries drain faster, or do you ha= ve=20 to replace the 1/3 twice as often as the 2/3, etc.? And where can you get= =20 them? Does the extra voltage have any significant chance of damaging the = RCX?=20 Thanks for asking this question. I've been meaning to do so myself. One of the books shows a modified RCX using a 9.6v RC battery pack. Another (or possibly the same one) talks about someone who increased the voltage of rechargables by using 5 AA, 1 2/3AA and 1 1/3AA (at least I think that's the right combination), which results in 9.6V, but for a shorter time. Does anyone have any comments on these options? How much shorter battery life do you get with the smaller batteries? Do all of the batteries drain faster, or do you have to replace the 1/3 twice as often as the 2/3, etc.? And where can you get them? Does the extra voltage have any significant chance of damaging the RCX? 40,41c33 > RCX? Has anyone had any bad experiences with this? Can anyone recomme= nd > RCX? Has anyone had any bad experiences with this? Can anyone recommend 46c38 --=20 -- 49d40
lugnet.robotics:18363 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 Don't NiMH batteries lose their charge just "sitting around" if not = placed in a trickle charger? Don't NiMH batteries lose their charge just "sitting around" if not placed in a trickle charger? 23c24 > > Does anyone have any comments about using rechargeable=20 > > Does anyone have any comments about using rechargeable 25c26 > > RCX? Has anyone had any bad experiences with this? Can=20 > > RCX? Has anyone had any bad experiences with this? Can 28c29 >=20 > 30,31c31,32 >=20 > NiCd's are a problem - they only generate 1.2 volts instead=20 > > NiCd's are a problem - they only generate 1.2 volts instead 33,34c34 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:18364 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,19c19,20 The audio on mine doesn't play either. This appears to be a bug in the = program that plays the video and audio files. The audio on mine doesn't play either. This appears to be a bug in the program that plays the video and audio files. 21,22c22,23 I checked out the CD. The audio files are separate from the video = files. They worked just fine when I manually played them. I checked out the CD. The audio files are separate from the video files. They worked just fine when I manually played them. 26,28c27,29 The first audio file is supposed to be played before any motion on the = video occurs. The second audio file corresponds to the next video with = batteries being inserted and so on. The first audio file is supposed to be played before any motion on the video occurs. The second audio file corresponds to the next video with batteries being inserted and so on. 36,38c37,39 >=20 >=20 > We installed the Dacta MS RoboLab 2.5 on a Win98 desk top=20 > > > We installed the Dacta MS RoboLab 2.5 on a Win98 desk top 40c41 > video RCX start up movie would not play. Dacta could offer no=20 > video RCX start up movie would not play. Dacta could offer no 43c44 >=20 > 45c46 > Wayne T. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N, 2,701=20 > Wayne T. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N, 2,701 47c48 >=20 > 49c50 >=20 > 51c52 > Imaginarium Museum:=20 > Imaginarium Museum: 53,54c54 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:18365 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,19c19,20 Thanks for the alert, but the batteries don't pose a threat if used = properly. Just don't incinerate or eat them. Thanks for the alert, but the batteries don't pose a threat if used properly. Just don't incinerate or eat them. 21,22c22,23 Maybe it was Li-ion batteries I was thinking of that lose their charge = sitting dormant... Maybe it was Li-ion batteries I was thinking of that lose their charge sitting dormant... 24c25 In any event, does anyone have specific and useful information regarding = In any event, does anyone have specific and useful information regarding 27,30c28,31 Weight, cell voltage, charge time (under proper charging conditions), = discharge time, effects of storage, cost, average number of full charge = cycles, run-time under load (i.e. 3 motors, 2 active sensors, one = passive sensor, and IR communication)? Weight, cell voltage, charge time (under proper charging conditions), discharge time, effects of storage, cost, average number of full charge cycles, run-time under load (i.e. 3 motors, 2 active sensors, one passive sensor, and IR communication)? 38,39c39,40 >=20 >=20 > > 48,49c49 >=20 >
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lugnet.robotics:18375 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 From: Rob Limbaugh [mailto:rlimbaugh@greenfieldgroup.com]=20 From: Rob Limbaugh [mailto:rlimbaugh@greenfieldgroup.com] 57c58 > Unfortunatelly I can't buy that at Brazil. I want to buy a RIS 2.0=20 > Unfortunatelly I can't buy that at Brazil. I want to buy a RIS 2.0 60c61 > to buy the whole set than individual pieces. It is more cost=20 > to buy the whole set than individual pieces. It is more cost 65c66 > the robot in the same place the desktop is, using the notebook would=20 > the robot in the same place the desktop is, using the notebook would 71c72 > If it could use the USB port as supply it could be on all the time.=20 > If it could use the USB port as supply it could be on all the time. 80c81 > "Rob Hendrix" <rmhendrix@hotmail.com> wrote in message=20 > "Rob Hendrix" <rmhendrix@hotmail.com> wrote in message 82c83 > > I solved that problem before I encountered it altogether. I just=20 > > I solved that problem before I encountered it altogether. I just 88c89 > > cost me about $40 US, but that USB/Serial adapter was twice that=20 > > cost me about $40 US, but that USB/Serial adapter was twice that 95c96 > > "Mauro Vianna" <mauro_vianna@hotmail.com> wrote in message=20 > > "Mauro Vianna" <mauro_vianna@hotmail.com> wrote in message 99c100 > > > I have a problem trying to connect a serial IR tower to my=20 > > > I have a problem trying to connect a serial IR tower to my 119,120d119
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lugnet.robotics:18480 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 29 Lines: 24 20,29c21,25 >I built a little robot that has two wheels that are tilted such that = instead >of being parallel to the ground the axles stick up at an angle = approximately >75 degrees to the ground. Tilting the wheels this way raises the = effective >axis of rotation and makes the robot more stable. I have seen this = done >before with cheap radio controlled toys that roll on two dish shaped = wheels, >I built a little robot that has two wheels that are tilted such that instead >of being parallel to the ground the axles stick up at an angle approximately >75 degrees to the ground. Tilting the wheels this way raises the effective >axis of rotation and makes the robot more stable. I have seen this done >before with cheap radio controlled toys that roll on two dish shaped wheels, 33,35c29,31 The first time I saw this design was on robots made by Androbot in the = 80's. TOPO (http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/8970 for = reference)is probably the one familiar to most. The first time I saw this design was on robots made by Androbot in the 80's. TOPO (http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/8970 for reference)is probably the one familiar to most. 37c33 Bottom of page number 2 (pdf page 14) of the TOPO II manual = Bottom of page number 2 (pdf page 14) of the TOPO II manual 40,48c36,39 "TOPO enjoys a drive system that provides stability and safety without = compromising maneuverability and control. This patented drive system is = called 'Andromotion.' It gives TOPO a unique personal gait and the = ability to remain upright at all times." I'm not sure if that means anything, since Andromotion is out of = business. But, if it does, then "Andromotion" may be the answer. "TOPO enjoys a drive system that provides stability and safety without compromising maneuverability and control. This patented drive system is called 'Andromotion.' It gives TOPO a unique personal gait and the ability to remain upright at all times." 49a41,42 I'm not sure if that means anything, since Andromotion is out of business. But, if it does, then "Andromotion" may be the answer.
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lugnet.robotics:18521 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 72 Lines: 64 18,26c19,27 System requirements a "general", at best. Most of their requirements = listed (on both the box or in the file) were Multi Media Machine = standards over 5 years ago except the processor type/speed and newer = OS's. As long as one meets the OS and drive space specs, it'll probably = run fine on a Pentium 166MHz w/MMX equivalent or higher machine. "Minimum System Requirements" are reflective of the minimum = configuration a company is willing to support, not necessarily the = minimum hardware required to use the software at all. System requirements a "general", at best. Most of their requirements listed (on both the box or in the file) were Multi Media Machine standards over 5 years ago except the processor type/speed and newer OS's. As long as one meets the OS and drive space specs, it'll probably run fine on a Pentium 166MHz w/MMX equivalent or higher machine. "Minimum System Requirements" are reflective of the minimum configuration a company is willing to support, not necessarily the minimum hardware required to use the software at all. 36,39c37,38 > I've only played with them at the BrickFest demo. My favorites were = 3806 > Gigamesh and 3807 Snaptrax. The track style bots seemed easier to = control. > I've only played with them at the BrickFest demo. My favorites were 3806 > Gigamesh and 3807 Snaptrax. The track style bots seemed easier to control. 42,49c41,44 > "Minimum System Requirements: Windows=AE 95/Windows 98/ME/2000/XP, = Pentium=AE II > 233 MHz processor, 32MB RAM, 80MB available hard disc space, = Windows=AE 98 > compatible mouse, Sound Blaster 16(tm)/Windows compatible sound = device, 8x > CD-ROM drive, 800 x 600 SVGA display with 1MB RAM in high color = (16-bit), > "Minimum System Requirements: Windows® 95/Windows 98/ME/2000/XP, Pentium® II > 233 MHz processor, 32MB RAM, 80MB available hard disc space, Windows® 98 > compatible mouse, Sound Blaster 16(tm)/Windows compatible sound device, 8x > CD-ROM drive, 800 x 600 SVGA display with 1MB RAM in high color (16-bit), 51c46 > Netscape=AE Navigator or Microsoft=AE Internet Explorer (optional)." > Netscape® Navigator or Microsoft® Internet Explorer (optional)." 62,63c57 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ============================================== 83,84c77 videos were pretty jerky running off the CD. A full install (600MB!) = might videos were pretty jerky running off the CD. A full install (600MB!) might 90d82
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lugnet.robotics:18566 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 43 Lines: 37 28,33c29,31 > I think one of those at minifig scale would be magnificent. An RCX = one, > even more so. Am I the only one who thinks that the globe on top = is > just *crying* out to be filled with unidentified liquid in which = rests > I think one of those at minifig scale would be magnificent. An RCX one, > even more so. Am I the only one who thinks that the globe on top is > just *crying* out to be filled with unidentified liquid in which rests 36,37c34 Sorry, but LEGO does not make a "Living Human Brain" part, so purists = will not=20 Sorry, but LEGO does not make a "Living Human Brain" part, so purists will not 43c40 --=20 -- 51,62c48,55 - - - - - - - Appended by Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. - - - - - - - = This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is = confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The = information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person = responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the = intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, = print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If = you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender = immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer.=20 - - - - - - - Appended by Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. - - - - - - - This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer.
lugnet.robotics:18597 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 68 Lines: 54 18,21c19,22 This reminded of the scene in Apollo 13 where a guy at NASA dumps a = bunch of stuff on a desk surrounded by people and tells them "make this = fit into this" (he held up two different shape CO2 filters) using only = what they had onboard the craft. This reminded of the scene in Apollo 13 where a guy at NASA dumps a bunch of stuff on a desk surrounded by people and tells them "make this fit into this" (he held up two different shape CO2 filters) using only what they had onboard the craft. 36,39c37,38 Because my chosen hobby is *LEGO* robotics, a distinct subset of = robotics as a whole. I am fully aware of the advantages of "opening my mind" to = using Because my chosen hobby is *LEGO* robotics, a distinct subset of robotics as a whole. I am fully aware of the advantages of "opening my mind" to using 43,52c42,46 In my sick and twisted mind, it is desirable to work within the = constraints of a known system. There is a very finite amount of Mindstorms and = Technic stuff that LEGO makes, and it is within my ability to keep up with it = all. When LEGO introduces a new sensor, actuator, or Technic element, I can = find out, buy some, and incorporate them into my designs right away. I can = build In my sick and twisted mind, it is desirable to work within the constraints of a known system. There is a very finite amount of Mindstorms and Technic stuff that LEGO makes, and it is within my ability to keep up with it all. When LEGO introduces a new sensor, actuator, or Technic element, I can find out, buy some, and incorporate them into my designs right away. I can build 58,61c52,53 creations. I would know that there were infinite potential solutions to = my problems, and I would never get anything done because I would spend all = of creations. I would know that there were infinite potential solutions to my problems, and I would never get anything done because I would spend all of 63,64c55 horribly to know that there was better hardware available than what I = was horribly to know that there was better hardware available than what I was 71,72c62 > Why not embrace anything and everything which might move the state of = the > Why not embrace anything and everything which might move the state of the 75,76c65 Because I cannot afford it. If I was going to play with non-LEGO = robotics, Because I cannot afford it. If I was going to play with non-LEGO robotics, 78,79c67 communication, stereoscopic image processing, shape memory alloys, = stepper communication, stereoscopic image processing, shape memory alloys, stepper 81,82c69 machine parts and make them work nicely together. LEGO is plenty = expensive machine parts and make them work nicely together. LEGO is plenty expensive 86d72
lugnet.robotics:18598 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 45 Lines: 44 27c28 > remember to keep practicality in the back of your mind when=20 > remember to keep practicality in the back of your mind when 29c30 > this. I may well decide to build a sample or two of what=20 > this. I may well decide to build a sample or two of what 31c32 > assuming something does. So it needs to be able to be done=20 > assuming something does. So it needs to be able to be done 34c35 >=20 > 42c43 c. One RS232 serial expansion port (want more I/O? make a serial based = c. One RS232 serial expansion port (want more I/O? make a serial based 44,45c45,46 d. System com port using RS232 with IR built in with external jack = (that wouldn't mess with IR) d. System com port using RS232 with IR built in with external jack (that wouldn't mess with IR) 52,60c53,57 On a related note, one of my "when I get around to it" projects is to = use a GameBoy Color as a replacement RCX. It has IR that can be used = with the RCX, color screen, plenty of buttons for "user interfacing", = serial port, and a cartridge connector so custom carts can be made with = various amounts of memory and I/O capabilities. My son suggested the idea to me when he got a GB Advance for XMAS. He = got the idea because it was yellow and thought it would be cool as an = RCX. On a related note, one of my "when I get around to it" projects is to use a GameBoy Color as a replacement RCX. It has IR that can be used with the RCX, color screen, plenty of buttons for "user interfacing", serial port, and a cartridge connector so custom carts can be made with various amounts of memory and I/O capabilities. 62c59,60 - Rob My son suggested the idea to me when he got a GB Advance for XMAS. He got the idea because it was yellow and thought it would be cool as an RCX. 63a62 - Rob
lugnet.robotics:18611 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 164 Lines: 131 18,19c19,20 My suggestion, for your wants/needs would be to use a PDA with Linux = (for the purist in you) rather than an RCX. My suggestion, for your wants/needs would be to use a PDA with Linux (for the purist in you) rather than an RCX. 21,22c22,23 Refurbished and/or discontinued ones are starting to show up for $250 or = less. They are about the size of an RCX, too. Refurbished and/or discontinued ones are starting to show up for $250 or less. They are about the size of an RCX, too. 24,25c25,26 Another option would be to pick up an embedded systems = motherboard-on-a-card. They are about the size of a large EISA card. Another option would be to pick up an embedded systems motherboard-on-a-card. They are about the size of a large EISA card. 27,28c28,29 Either way, for what you want to do, it makes no sense to recreate = existing technology. Either way, for what you want to do, it makes no sense to recreate existing technology. 41,42c42 > memory footprint and substantially more power than the on-board = computer > memory footprint and substantially more power than the on-board computer 44,45c44 > a floating point processor, 50 Mhz clock, 512K of RAM, LCD = touchscreen, > a floating point processor, 50 Mhz clock, 512K of RAM, LCD touchscreen, 52,55c51,52 for is turning motors on and off and reading sensors - then it's fine - = but once you can attach a camera and you want to do image processing then = it's for is turning motors on and off and reading sensors - then it's fine - but once you can attach a camera and you want to do image processing then it's 60,68c57,61 So what there is now is good enough for the peripherals we have now - = but if you want more peripherals then pretty soon your CPU will need to = catch up. > 2. The standard firmware is very good for its stated purpose, which is = to > introduce robotics to a population that is ill-equipped to deal = with So what there is now is good enough for the peripherals we have now - but if you want more peripherals then pretty soon your CPU will need to catch up. > 2. The standard firmware is very good for its stated purpose, which is to > introduce robotics to a population that is ill-equipped to deal with 81,82c74 > 4. If we add a simple I/O expansion in combination with some = additional > 4. If we add a simple I/O expansion in combination with some additional 90,91c82 Yep - but the extra electronics it takes to decode your serial port and = drive Yep - but the extra electronics it takes to decode your serial port and drive 93,94c84 If you are going to all that trouble, you might as well replace the = whole If you are going to all that trouble, you might as well replace the whole 98,101c88,89 > or Colleges. They would also be looking at Basic Stamps or Handy = Boards. > They probably already have RCXs. Why not leverage this and design a = simple > or Colleges. They would also be looking at Basic Stamps or Handy Boards. > They probably already have RCXs. Why not leverage this and design a simple 109,110c97 > of course a website and community for exchanging messages. This is = WAY > of course a website and community for exchanging messages. This is WAY 125,132c112,115 > I'm rambling, and could go on and on. The biggest thing to understand = is that > the vast number of hobbyists never get beyond a simple bumper car with = their > RCX. The reason is that computer science, mechanics, and the required = math are > very difficult subjects to understand. You can't put a GUI around it = and make > I'm rambling, and could go on and on. The biggest thing to understand is that > the vast number of hobbyists never get beyond a simple bumper car with their > RCX. The reason is that computer science, mechanics, and the required math are > very difficult subjects to understand. You can't put a GUI around it and make 135,136c118 Yes - that's true...but Lego sold a *bunch* of these things and made = good money Yes - that's true...but Lego sold a *bunch* of these things and made good money 139,144c121,123 > As I'm sure I've mentioned before, I teach embedded systems design = seminars > and am generally dismayed at the level of understanding that most = programmers > have of these systems. We need a robust way of adding IO to the RCX, = not a > As I'm sure I've mentioned before, I teach embedded systems design seminars > and am generally dismayed at the level of understanding that most programmers > have of these systems. We need a robust way of adding IO to the RCX, not a 147,152c126,128 But the RCX is little more than a single-chip micro - with a bunch of = I/O. When you've replaced the I/O, you've replaced EVERYTHING except one chip - = the CPU. I'd maintain that it's conceptually simpler to dump the CPU too and = remove any But the RCX is little more than a single-chip micro - with a bunch of I/O. When you've replaced the I/O, you've replaced EVERYTHING except one chip - the CPU. I'd maintain that it's conceptually simpler to dump the CPU too and remove any 155,158c131,132 > Maybe I should rephrase that. *I* need a robust way of adding I/O. I = don't > see a big enough market for a super RCX that would make it worth = anyone's > Maybe I should rephrase that. *I* need a robust way of adding I/O. I don't > see a big enough market for a super RCX that would make it worth anyone's 161,164c135,136 Sure - as a DIY project that you don't expect anyone else to have to = replicate, it's easy...but expecting other people to cut holes in their RCX's case = and Sure - as a DIY project that you don't expect anyone else to have to replicate, it's easy...but expecting other people to cut holes in their RCX's case and 168,173c140,142 The problem with all of this enthusiasm is that unless Lego do it, it's = not going to be a huge success - and we *know* what Lego have decided to = do... and many of us don't like it. Quite what the answer is to that - I = don't know. The problem with all of this enthusiasm is that unless Lego do it, it's not going to be a huge success - and we *know* what Lego have decided to do... and many of us don't like it. Quite what the answer is to that - I don't know. 175,176c144 ----------------------------- Steve Baker = ------------------------------- ----------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------------- 182,184d149
lugnet.robotics:18612 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 113 Lines: 83 20,26c21,27 Another great thing about LEGO is the engineering of the pieces allow = one to test possible designs for other types of robots. In my case, I = don't have the resources to spend $$$ on machining metal only to find = out my first 3 ideas didn't work. LEGO gives me a simple way to try out = a concept and see if it works. If it does, I can figure out a (better) = way to make it out of simple, cheap materials from Home Depot using = relatively inexpensive tools to shape things. Another great thing about LEGO is the engineering of the pieces allow one to test possible designs for other types of robots. In my case, I don't have the resources to spend $$$ on machining metal only to find out my first 3 ideas didn't work. LEGO gives me a simple way to try out a concept and see if it works. If it does, I can figure out a (better) way to make it out of simple, cheap materials from Home Depot using relatively inexpensive tools to shape things. 38,41c39,40 >Because my chosen hobby is *LEGO* robotics, a distinct subset of = robotics as >a whole. I am fully aware of the advantages of "opening my mind" to = using >Because my chosen hobby is *LEGO* robotics, a distinct subset of robotics as >a whole. I am fully aware of the advantages of "opening my mind" to using 45,50c44,46 I don't have any quarrel with setting limits for the scope of some = hobby.=20 When I was a kid I made a whole raft of 'useful' household articles from = nothing but glue, popsicle sticks and dried pasta in various shapes. = Most=20 I don't have any quarrel with setting limits for the scope of some hobby. When I was a kid I made a whole raft of 'useful' household articles from nothing but glue, popsicle sticks and dried pasta in various shapes. Most 53,57c49,51 I've paddled the Grand Canyon for 18 days rather than blasting through = 4X=20 faster with a motor. I was there to savor the experience, not to race. I = don't own a power boat but do own several oar and paddle powered=20 I've paddled the Grand Canyon for 18 days rather than blasting through 4X faster with a motor. I was there to savor the experience, not to race. I don't own a power boat but do own several oar and paddle powered 60,68c54,58 My perspective is using the Legos as a way to quickly build robots and=20 structures not as a hobby but as a teaching tool at the university = level. I=20 don't want to build what I can buy (and here's the qualifier) if it will = do=20 the job. All the Lego mechanical bits are wonderful. The RCX is great = for=20 kids (it's intended audience) but inadequate for a senior level computer = My perspective is using the Legos as a way to quickly build robots and structures not as a hobby but as a teaching tool at the university level. I don't want to build what I can buy (and here's the qualifier) if it will do the job. All the Lego mechanical bits are wonderful. The RCX is great for kids (it's intended audience) but inadequate for a senior level computer 71,74c61,63 A lot of very smart people have managed to extend the usefulness of the = RCX=20 by grafting on more reasonable programming languages. They've done an=20 astounding job. But at its core, RCX is still an 8 bit micro with very=20 A lot of very smart people have managed to extend the usefulness of the RCX by grafting on more reasonable programming languages. They've done an astounding job. But at its core, RCX is still an 8 bit micro with very 80,82c69,70 Not being a serious roboticist I wouldn't know. I do, however have over=20 $2000 worth of Lego and Knex bits in my office closet... plus assorted = add=20 Not being a serious roboticist I wouldn't know. I do, however have over $2000 worth of Lego and Knex bits in my office closet... plus assorted add 85,86c73 >Because I cannot afford it. If I was going to play with non-LEGO = robotics, >Because I cannot afford it. If I was going to play with non-LEGO robotics, 88,93c75,77 >communication, stereoscopic image processing, shape memory alloys, = stepper >motors, servos, solenoids... to say nothing of all the tools I'd need = to >machine parts and make them work nicely together. LEGO is plenty = expensive >communication, stereoscopic image processing, shape memory alloys, stepper >motors, servos, solenoids... to say nothing of all the tools I'd need to >machine parts and make them work nicely together. LEGO is plenty expensive 96,101c80,82 For my purposes sonar rangers, RF, etc and other sensors are required or = at=20 least desired. My interest is in education, so students are allowed to = add=20 whatever they want, hack up bricks, etc. I know, I know, the Society for = For my purposes sonar rangers, RF, etc and other sensors are required or at least desired. My interest is in education, so students are allowed to add whatever they want, hack up bricks, etc. I know, I know, the Society for 104,107c85,86 Call me a heretic but I see Legos as part of the universe of raw = materials=20 available to solve a problem. I intend to apply them where they excel = and=20 Call me a heretic but I see Legos as part of the universe of raw materials available to solve a problem. I intend to apply them where they excel and 110,127c89,98 I also believe a true robot is autonomous, so running vision processing = on=20 a PC is cheating. It's like the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of = Oz.=20 It grates on me that the remote control devices on TV (battle bots, etc) = are called "robots", if they are, then so is my VCR... So a more = powerful=20 CPU for the brain is essential if we are ever to build capable true = robots. The technology now exists to combine a current technology, open, = powerful,=20 standardized language (Java) with a very small, very powerful controller = (native execution Java hardware) such as on our JStamp module. I think = this=20 opens doors which have been closed up to this point. With a bit of luck=20 I also believe a true robot is autonomous, so running vision processing on a PC is cheating. It's like the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. It grates on me that the remote control devices on TV (battle bots, etc) are called "robots", if they are, then so is my VCR... So a more powerful CPU for the brain is essential if we are ever to build capable true robots. The technology now exists to combine a current technology, open, powerful, standardized language (Java) with a very small, very powerful controller (native execution Java hardware) such as on our JStamp module. I think this opens doors which have been closed up to this point. With a bit of luck 131,133d101
lugnet.robotics:18617 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 22 Lines: 16 20,23c21,22 > Call me a heretic but I see Legos as part of the universe of raw materi= als > available to solve a problem. I intend to apply them where they excel a= nd > Call me a heretic but I see Legos as part of the universe of raw materials > available to solve a problem. I intend to apply them where they excel and 26,36c25,31 I'm fairly new to the subject, and have not yet came to a point where thi= s was=20 an issue. But, if I ever do, I can see nothing wrong with using non-Lego=20 pieces in my creations. The thing is, my interest is in robotics, not Leg= o=20 robotics. Lego makes fabulous tools for robotics hobbyists, but when John= =20 Barnes releases his leadscrews, I'll buy a set since they increase the=20 capabilities that the other, "pure" Lego pieces offer me. If Lego offere= d=20 the technology, I'd use theirs, but since they don't, I'll have to go=20 I'm fairly new to the subject, and have not yet came to a point where this was an issue. But, if I ever do, I can see nothing wrong with using non-Lego pieces in my creations. The thing is, my interest is in robotics, not Lego robotics. Lego makes fabulous tools for robotics hobbyists, but when John Barnes releases his leadscrews, I'll buy a set since they increase the capabilities that the other, "pure" Lego pieces offer me. If Lego offered the technology, I'd use theirs, but since they don't, I'll have to go 39c34 --=20 -- 42d36
lugnet.robotics:18698 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 68 Lines: 60 18,19c19,20 This reminded me that I need to purchase another one of these... You = are absolutely right, they are awesome! This reminded me that I need to purchase another one of these... You are absolutely right, they are awesome! 21,25c22,26 If you find these at a local store that sells fishing equipment, look = for the 3700 StowAway trays sold separately (those are the trays that = the 1234 comes with). The old version of the 3700 has twice as many = compartment areas. (Plano is currently taking note of customers = requesting that the old mold be put back in production.)=20 If you find these at a local store that sells fishing equipment, look for the 3700 StowAway trays sold separately (those are the trays that the 1234 comes with). The old version of the 3700 has twice as many compartment areas. (Plano is currently taking note of customers requesting that the old mold be put back in production.) 27c28 The 3620 is a shallow version of the 3700 and has a higher compartment = The 3620 is a shallow version of the 3700 and has a higher compartment 30,31c31,32 A fourth tray (3620 or 3700) can fit under the lid of the tackle-box if = you don't want to use 3500's or the gray tackle plates. A fourth tray (3620 or 3700) can fit under the lid of the tackle-box if you don't want to use 3500's or the gray tackle plates. 33,34c34,35 8.5x11 paper fits between tray gaps in the lower section. That's where = I keep design ideas I print out from the web. 8.5x11 paper fits between tray gaps in the lower section. That's where I keep design ideas I print out from the web. 53,54c54 systems (well over $1500.00 of Mindstorm related parts) and have spent = equal systems (well over $1500.00 of Mindstorm related parts) and have spent equal 58,59c58 And, there are those of us who have one RIS set and use the original box = as And, there are those of us who have one RIS set and use the original box as 62,63c61 Just this last weekend I set up a storage system at home that might be = for Just this last weekend I set up a storage system at home that might be for 65,68c63,64 fishing). They can be found for about $25. A link follows. I bought two = of these and found the two were able to accomodate my sets (which are : 3 = RIS fishing). They can be found for about $25. A link follows. I bought two of these and found the two were able to accomodate my sets (which are : 3 RIS 73,77c69,71 adjustable "bins"... with the excellent feature of being extremely = portable. (the height of the trays is enough to support most parts - other tackle = box systems may have shallower trays).=20 adjustable "bins"... with the excellent feature of being extremely portable. (the height of the trays is enough to support most parts - other tackle box systems may have shallower trays). 81,83c75,76 http://www.basspro-shops.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=3D15906&hv= arTar get=3Dsearch http://www.basspro-shops.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=15906&hvarTar get=search 86d78
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lugnet.robotics:18727 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 22 Lines: 20 22,23c23 acting cylinders were introduced by LEGO. = acting cylinders were introduced by LEGO. 30c30 =A0 33,34c33 -- = -- 39c38 =2E.. where air is power! ... where air is power!
lugnet.robotics:18731 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 202 Lines: 193 20,30c21,30 Additionally, some items are readily available in one place, but not the = other. For example, additional pins, pegs, and the specific gears can = be ordered from Pitsco, but not Lego. If I want all set with all the = current pneumatic parts, I have to get that from Lego because Pitsco = doesn't sell a set (that I've found) that includes the small cylinder. This dilemma has forced me to look at Brinklink. One nice thing about = Bricklink is being able to purchase virtually any piece "individually". = However, my frustration with Bricklink comes from it's poor = sorting/searching functions and "features" of the site that don't appear = to work. Additionally, some items are readily available in one place, but not the other. For example, additional pins, pegs, and the specific gears can be ordered from Pitsco, but not Lego. If I want all set with all the current pneumatic parts, I have to get that from Lego because Pitsco doesn't sell a set (that I've found) that includes the small cylinder. This dilemma has forced me to look at Brinklink. One nice thing about Bricklink is being able to purchase virtually any piece "individually". However, my frustration with Bricklink comes from it's poor sorting/searching functions and "features" of the site that don't appear to work. 32,33c32,33 For example... in the past few weeks, I've been mulling over a project = where I need the following parts: For example... in the past few weeks, I've been mulling over a project where I need the following parts: 43,47c43,47 After researching where I can get what parts, I started doing the price = comparisons to find the proverbial "best deal". It didn't take long to = find out that expansion sets #5218 and #5109 would fit the bill with an = additional purchase of 10 small pneumatic cylinders. Lego sells #5218 = for $27.99 and #5109 for $2.99. After researching where I can get what parts, I started doing the price comparisons to find the proverbial "best deal". It didn't take long to find out that expansion sets #5218 and #5109 would fit the bill with an additional purchase of 10 small pneumatic cylinders. Lego sells #5218 for $27.99 and #5109 for $2.99. 52,57c52,56 Lego, as usual, can only partially satisfy my needs. If I buy two of = the #5218 sets, then I only need 10 more small pneumatic cylinders. I = can throw in a couple #5109 tubing packs, just to have the extra tubing = and T-connectors. The shipping on all that would be reasonable. A = point of interest today is that the light sensor is on sale for $14.00, = but I don't need another one. Lego, as usual, can only partially satisfy my needs. If I buy two of the #5218 sets, then I only need 10 more small pneumatic cylinders. I can throw in a couple #5109 tubing packs, just to have the extra tubing and T-connectors. The shipping on all that would be reasonable. A point of interest today is that the light sensor is on sale for $14.00, but I don't need another one. 62,73c61,72 Pitsco is excellent if you need packages of chain links, specific gears, = and other mechanical goodies. Would you believe that the only part they = don't sell in packs are the small pneumatic cylinders? However, it's = worth noting that they sell a pack of 2 air tanks for $10, which is a = good value and I'll keep that in mind when I need more pegs, pins, = gears, conveyor belts, and chain links. Major drawback here is that their "online shopping" experience has much = to be desired in terms of what's actually included in a particular item = for sale. For example, they have a pneumatics set for $35.00. Nothing = tells you what's in it. So I can't really tell if it would suit my = needs at all or judge the overall value of it. Pitsco is excellent if you need packages of chain links, specific gears, and other mechanical goodies. Would you believe that the only part they don't sell in packs are the small pneumatic cylinders? However, it's worth noting that they sell a pack of 2 air tanks for $10, which is a good value and I'll keep that in mind when I need more pegs, pins, gears, conveyor belts, and chain links. Major drawback here is that their "online shopping" experience has much to be desired in terms of what's actually included in a particular item for sale. For example, they have a pneumatics set for $35.00. Nothing tells you what's in it. So I can't really tell if it would suit my needs at all or judge the overall value of it. 78,81c77,79 People are selling the pneumatic set (#5218) for over $40.00 and the = pneumatic tubing pack (#5109) for over $6.00. I decided to price out = the key components from #5218 figuring "per part" had to be somewhat of = a better value. People are selling the pneumatic set (#5218) for over $40.00 and the pneumatic tubing pack (#5109) for over $6.00. I decided to price out the key components from #5218 figuring "per part" had to be somewhat of a better value. 93,94c91,92 Prices are "lowest seen" regardless of country and do not include S&H or = account for "minimum order" policies. Prices are "lowest seen" regardless of country and do not include S&H or account for "minimum order" policies. 96,111c94,108 No value or convenience for me. I'd have to order from two, three, = maybe even 6 people to get those parts... it gets worse if I want 8 of a = part and the only way to get it is to order 2 from one person, 3 from = another, etc. Then, add the inconvenience of country! Don't get me = wrong, Bricklink is great for what it was intended to be, which is a = place to find parts. Unfortunately, I'll need to suffer through those pains if I want my 10 = other small cylinders, or I could buy 10 more #5218's and hope Lego = gives me a quantity discount. For now, I'll buy the bulk of the parts I need from S@H, just because it = makes sense. The price happens to be fair and I'll minimize shipping = costs and number of shipments to wait for. I'll find 10 small cylinders = (hopefully from as few people as possible) on Bricklink. No value or convenience for me. I'd have to order from two, three, maybe even 6 people to get those parts... it gets worse if I want 8 of a part and the only way to get it is to order 2 from one person, 3 from another, etc. Then, add the inconvenience of country! Don't get me wrong, Bricklink is great for what it was intended to be, which is a place to find parts. Unfortunately, I'll need to suffer through those pains if I want my 10 other small cylinders, or I could buy 10 more #5218's and hope Lego gives me a quantity discount. For now, I'll buy the bulk of the parts I need from S@H, just because it makes sense. The price happens to be fair and I'll minimize shipping costs and number of shipments to wait for. I'll find 10 small cylinders (hopefully from as few people as possible) on Bricklink. 116,117c113,114 Bricklink was meant to be a single catalog of sources, not a single = point of distribution. Bricklink was meant to be a single catalog of sources, not a single point of distribution. 119,121c116,118 On that note, how feasible/reasonable would it be to organize regional = consignment distribution points for Bricklink (or a whole new service)? = It's proven that the hub-and-spoke distribution methodology works. On that note, how feasible/reasonable would it be to organize regional consignment distribution points for Bricklink (or a whole new service)? It's proven that the hub-and-spoke distribution methodology works. 125,141c122,136 Four regions for continental US (or wherever). East, West, Central, = South. People living within those regions as sellers could send their = parts to a central storage area (everything inventoried, of course) on a = consignment principle (similar to how antiques dealers work--a small = monthly fee is paid for warehouse space and insurance, plus portion of = sale). Someone logs onto the website, chooses their search radius (world, = hemisphere, continent, or region) and enters their search parameters. = The site spits back "253 red Lego widgets in central USA". The person = needs 4, so they place the order. One catalog. One distribution point. = One payment. One shipping charge for the total order. Yes, I know there's more to a system than that (I've spent a great deal = of time contemplating it), but we have a lot of smart people here. I'd = be more than happy to help with such an undertaking in any way that I = can. Four regions for continental US (or wherever). East, West, Central, South. People living within those regions as sellers could send their parts to a central storage area (everything inventoried, of course) on a consignment principle (similar to how antiques dealers work--a small monthly fee is paid for warehouse space and insurance, plus portion of sale). Someone logs onto the website, chooses their search radius (world, hemisphere, continent, or region) and enters their search parameters. The site spits back "253 red Lego widgets in central USA". The person needs 4, so they place the order. One catalog. One distribution point. One payment. One shipping charge for the total order. Yes, I know there's more to a system than that (I've spent a great deal of time contemplating it), but we have a lot of smart people here. I'd be more than happy to help with such an undertaking in any way that I can. 164,167c159,161 I recently started looking at some of the offbeat parts (not in the = Mindstorm big kits) mentioned in Dave Baum's book and the Ferrari brother's book. Here's a preliminary = list: I recently started looking at some of the offbeat parts (not in the Mindstorm big kits) mentioned in Dave Baum's book and the Ferrari brother's book. Here's a preliminary list: 179,180c173,174 Basically, the # items are Lego numbers (service packs) from Baum's = book. Items from the Ferrari Basically, the # items are Lego numbers (service packs) from Baum's book. Items from the Ferrari 183,184c177,178 In the interest of purchasing some of them, it looks to me like there = are 3 basic sources for In the interest of purchasing some of them, it looks to me like there are 3 basic sources for 190,203c184,197 It looks to me like there is no central place to get all the items. For = example, individual items are purchasable from Bricklink but not service packs, and, although I = don't list any #9000 series items (for example, a rotation sensor, #9756), these items cannot be = purchased from Shop at Home. Is that about the way the game is played? Further, Dacta is the educational = arm of Lego, and it seems as though one might not be able to purchase from their catalog unless = they are associated with an educational institution. Is that correct? This stuff is pricey enough = without having to buy small quanties from several different sources and incurring heavy shipping = prices for small quantities. It looks to me like there is no central place to get all the items. For example, individual items are purchasable from Bricklink but not service packs, and, although I don't list any #9000 series items (for example, a rotation sensor, #9756), these items cannot be purchased from Shop at Home. Is that about the way the game is played? Further, Dacta is the educational arm of Lego, and it seems as though one might not be able to purchase from their catalog unless they are associated with an educational institution. Is that correct? This stuff is pricey enough without having to buy small quanties from several different sources and incurring heavy shipping prices for small quantities. 211,212c205,206 Wayne T. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N, 2,701 feet), = Nevada City, CA Wayne T. Watson (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N, 2,701 feet), Nevada City, CA 214,215c208 "He allus said, "Don't take life too serious, it ain't nohow = permanent." "He allus said, "Don't take life too serious, it ain't nohow permanent." 218,220c211 Imaginarium Museum: = <home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews/imaginarium.html> Imaginarium Museum: <home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews/imaginarium.html>
lugnet.robotics:18751 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16,80c17 Lines: 61 Okay, this is a pretty freakin cool idea, I am teaching my 5 year old = son to sword fight (under the premise of "light sabers") and would love = to build a robotic fencer. Here are some thoughts... The basic premise of non-shield sword fighting is that your sword is = your offense /and/ defense. In defense you see an attack coming, you = interact with it and through fine motor skill you hope to gain the = advantage. In attack you wait until you see an opening (or create one) = and strike as quickly as you can. Both of these require an outrageous = amount of processing power. Asimo couldn't approximate even a very slow = motion kendo due to the intense processing requirements of timing, = distancing and alignment. Now, if you had two vision commands you could = make some non-autonomous robots which would let you sword fight by = proxy, that might be pretty interesting.=20 If you limit the attacks you can also limit the defenses, but you still = want to have a defense be able to turn into an attack or you don't have = much close to sword fighting.=20 Fencing style, seems to me to mostly require fine motor skills and would = be very difficult to model with robots without using your brain for = target acquisition. I would of course be thrilled to be proven wrong on = this, erm, point.=20 A kendo style of fencing might be easier to imitate. There is a fun (and = noisy) little game off the main page at www.kendoshop.com which might = give an idea of simplified movements a robot might approach. For recording hits, assuming 3 sensor inputs (plus using the IR of the = RCX to find each other) you would want one touch sensor that would = record a head strike, one for the body/legs and one for the arms. In = order to make hits from either side count, you could design it so that a = hit moves a post off the sensor (which would be ON when not hit). As to sword position... For both Offense and defense the left hand keeps = the bottom of the sword centered and the tip is aimed at the opponents = eyes. This makes a "shield" out of the sword by requiring only small = movements to defend against the larger movements of the attacker. During = hits only the right hand "steers", forward of the left hand to hit the = head or wrists, to the side and down to hit the body or legs (you would = likely only try to make the robot strike on it's right as left strikes = are mechanically difficult). That there are no real eyes for the robot = isn't important, the important part is the swords relationship to the = targets.=20 As an off topic side note, fighting my 5 year old son is like fighting = Yoda. It is hard to hit anything but his head (which limits the places = he has to defend) and his most obvious target are my legs which are = really hard for me to to defend given the height of the originating = attack. He has mastered several moves that wouldn't work adult vs. = adult, including striking up as a head block and "rush in, feign to the = face and whack the leg" with which he very often nails me. A requirement = of keeping two hands on the sword stops the most painful whipping = strikes, however, as he gets stronger I have had to start wearing padded = gauntlets...=20 At any rate, I really look forward to seeing what you may come up with, = it sounds like a fun project. Elijah =20 =20 Lines: 57 81a19,68 Okay, this is a pretty freakin cool idea, I am teaching my 5 year old son to sword fight (under the premise of "light sabers") and would love to build a robotic fencer. Here are some thoughts... The basic premise of non-shield sword fighting is that your sword is your offense /and/ defense. In defense you see an attack coming, you interact with it and through fine motor skill you hope to gain the advantage. In attack you wait until you see an opening (or create one) and strike as quickly as you can. Both of these require an outrageous amount of processing power. Asimo couldn't approximate even a very slow motion kendo due to the intense processing requirements of timing, distancing and alignment. Now, if you had two vision commands you could make some non-autonomous robots which would let you sword fight by proxy, that might be pretty interesting. If you limit the attacks you can also limit the defenses, but you still want to have a defense be able to turn into an attack or you don't have much close to sword fighting. Fencing style, seems to me to mostly require fine motor skills and would be very difficult to model with robots without using your brain for target acquisition. I would of course be thrilled to be proven wrong on this, erm, point. A kendo style of fencing might be easier to imitate. There is a fun (and noisy) little game off the main page at www.kendoshop.com which might give an idea of simplified movements a robot might approach. For recording hits, assuming 3 sensor inputs (plus using the IR of the RCX to find each other) you would want one touch sensor that would record a head strike, one for the body/legs and one for the arms. In order to make hits from either side count, you could design it so that a hit moves a post off the sensor (which would be ON when not hit). As to sword position... For both Offense and defense the left hand keeps the bottom of the sword centered and the tip is aimed at the opponents eyes. This makes a "shield" out of the sword by requiring only small movements to defend against the larger movements of the attacker. During hits only the right hand "steers", forward of the left hand to hit the head or wrists, to the side and down to hit the body or legs (you would likely only try to make the robot strike on it's right as left strikes are mechanically difficult). That there are no real eyes for the robot isn't important, the important part is the swords relationship to the targets. As an off topic side note, fighting my 5 year old son is like fighting Yoda. It is hard to hit anything but his head (which limits the places he has to defend) and his most obvious target are my legs which are really hard for me to to defend given the height of the originating attack. He has mastered several moves that wouldn't work adult vs. adult, including striking up as a head block and "rush in, feign to the face and whack the leg" with which he very often nails me. A requirement of keeping two hands on the sword stops the most painful whipping strikes, however, as he gets stronger I have had to start wearing padded gauntlets... 82a70,71 At any rate, I really look forward to seeing what you may come up with, it sounds like a fun project. 83a73 Elijah 84a75
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lugnet.robotics:18830 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 80 Lines: 67 20,22c21,22 There is a description including PCB and parts list of how to make an = RCX to I2C interface in the Elector Electronics magazine No. 309,APRIL = 2002: There is a description including PCB and parts list of how to make an RCX to I2C interface in the Elector Electronics magazine No. 309,APRIL 2002: 27,33c27,33 It has, by now, become well known that the Lego RCX-module is eminently = suitable for experimenting with such things as robotics. But once the = designs grow beyond simple experimentation it quickly becomes obvious = that the number of inputs and outputs that this control module provides, = are rather insufficient. That's why Elektor Electronics presents the = I2C-interface for this Lego brick. An entirely new world is opened up: = in principle, no fewer than 128 I2C-devices may be connected to the bus! It has, by now, become well known that the Lego RCX-module is eminently suitable for experimenting with such things as robotics. But once the designs grow beyond simple experimentation it quickly becomes obvious that the number of inputs and outputs that this control module provides, are rather insufficient. That's why Elektor Electronics presents the I2C-interface for this Lego brick. An entirely new world is opened up: in principle, no fewer than 128 I2C-devices may be connected to the bus! 36c36 ----- Original Message -----=20 ----- Original Message ----- 44,54c44,49 >=20 > I2C devices are *tiny* because they don't need many pins. If you look = at the > CPU chip inside the RCX, it's 4cm long and 2cm wide - that's because = it has > thirty-some I/O pins on it. An I2C device typically needs two pins = for power > and ground, a couple more for the I2C bus and a couple to drive = whatever it > is it actually *does*. Dinky little 8 pin devices are common - and = would > > I2C devices are *tiny* because they don't need many pins. If you look at the > CPU chip inside the RCX, it's 4cm long and 2cm wide - that's because it has > thirty-some I/O pins on it. An I2C device typically needs two pins for power > and ground, a couple more for the I2C bus and a couple to drive whatever it > is it actually *does*. Dinky little 8 pin devices are common - and would 56c51 >=20 > 58,61c53,55 >=20 > = http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/buses/i2c/products/index.html >=20 > > http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/buses/i2c/products/index.html > 64,66c58,59 > into a 2x2 Lego brick if you could figure out a small enough = connector! >=20 > into a 2x2 Lego brick if you could figure out a small enough connector! > 68c61 >=20 > 74,78c67,69 > slow RAM to allow non-demanding programs to run in just two 8 pin = chips! >=20 > There is a Philips application note showing how an NE5570 motor = controller > slow RAM to allow non-demanding programs to run in just two 8 pin chips! > > There is a Philips application note showing how an NE5570 motor controller 80c71 >=20 > 82,83c73 > sensors shouldn't be hard. There are a couple of Philips AtoD = convertors > sensors shouldn't be hard. There are a couple of Philips AtoD convertors 85c75 >=20 > 87,91c77,79 > in most cases, the chip is small enough to fit in a single 2x4 Lego = brick. >=20 > ----------------------------- Steve Baker = ------------------------------- > in most cases, the chip is small enough to fit in a single 2x4 Lego brick. > > ----------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------------- 97,101c85,87 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > >
lugnet.robotics:18869 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 35 Lines: 34 20,23c21,24 Someone asked where I got my figure of 20,000 teams last year. Well, = actually I got it from a brain spasm (I was thinking 2000). But the = statistics for last year's FIRST LEGO League (not to mention all the = schools who do Mindstorms, but not FLL) from the FLL site are: Someone asked where I got my figure of 20,000 teams last year. Well, actually I got it from a brain spasm (I was thinking 2000). But the statistics for last year's FIRST LEGO League (not to mention all the schools who do Mindstorms, but not FLL) from the FLL site are: 31,46c32,46 For some reason, when I wrote that I was thinking there were closer to = 2000 teams last year - but I think that's what they're hoping for this = year. I know there are more teams around here. As far as the number of = tournaments rising -- Texas, which didn't have any state tournaments = last year, has a state tournament in Houston in December and in Dallas = in January. Plus, there is the BEST and FLL Robotics Invitation in = Houston on October 18th as part of the World Space Congress. All I know is, this is our first year; we have 18 students and two = teams, and we've had to keep the class closed because we could easily = have those numbers really jump higher if we opened the class. We have = turned away several students. We were going to add another class for = those who just wanted to build robots and not compete or do homework, = and we had a waiting list of 6-10 kids for that class without even = advertising (but we decided it would not have been a wise expenditure of = our time.) For some reason, when I wrote that I was thinking there were closer to 2000 teams last year - but I think that's what they're hoping for this year. I know there are more teams around here. As far as the number of tournaments rising -- Texas, which didn't have any state tournaments last year, has a state tournament in Houston in December and in Dallas in January. Plus, there is the BEST and FLL Robotics Invitation in Houston on October 18th as part of the World Space Congress. All I know is, this is our first year; we have 18 students and two teams, and we've had to keep the class closed because we could easily have those numbers really jump higher if we opened the class. We have turned away several students. We were going to add another class for those who just wanted to build robots and not compete or do homework, and we had a waiting list of 6-10 kids for that class without even advertising (but we decided it would not have been a wise expenditure of our time.) 54,56c54 =20
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My daughter was given a K'Nex Ultra this = year, at age 9, that we really haven't managed to use. I think the main = reason is that I haven't gotten it sorted out into a container where the = parts are readily accessible. (Having several Mindstorms RIS sets and = their accessory sets sorted down by parts means I can just sit there and = throw robots together without much effort. Sorry... but I HATE looking = for parts.) I have bought several RIS sets on eBay and Half.com; most were purchased = from adults who never used them - I mean, they said they had - but if = most of the parts are still taped down and/or sealed in their factory = sacks, I'm thinking it was pretty hard to use without even opening the = parts bags.... I think it is impossible to utilize a Mindstorms = effectively from a pile of parts in a box. I can't imagine anything = more frustrating than starting to build and having to search for every = bushing or 8-tooth gear. I wish we had been more aggressive about building robots more often with = my daughter, but I was trying to leave it as a daughter/dad activity - = they don't have many activities they call their own. We had heard = Mindstorms would be too hard and I even bought extra books and was ready = to buy her RoboLab. Her dad built robots with her at first - she didn't = need much help, except some programming assist with the 1.5 RIS = software. She even intuited how to turn her Roverbot with no adult = input or reading anything that said how.... she just "knew" you turned = by having one motor on and one off. Needless to say, the extra books = just sat on the shelf. I use them now for reference for teaching. Through my class I am meeting children that do have to be taught the = basics (but they're SO open and ready to learn), but out of these 25 or = so kids we have worked with this year, there are several that are = jumping ahead on projects and just intuiting how things work. We have = one 10-year-old who on his 2nd class or so was majorly modifying the = project we were working on, adding motors, touch sensors, etc. Plus he = added a lot of other embellishments to use friction to his advantage, = etc. It is a joy watching these kids brains leap around and encompass = the concepts and leap further forward.... Now teaching their parents to retrieve their email has been a different = story.... I meet some who are so totally intimidated by computers or = anything that looks like one.... One had had her computer and email = access for a full year, and had never managed to send or receive a = single email. Back to the Mindstorms, I have to say I also think if they would provide = the Building Robots with LEGO Mindstorms book (Ferrari, Ferrari, and = Hempel), or a subset thereof, with each set, I think the usage would = increase dramatically. Of all the books I have, I think this Sygress = edition covers the widest range of the basics. We started out with = Baum, which was more advanced than we needed (although still a wonderful = book and we're working our way toward that and Jin Sato's LEGO = Mindstorms: The Master's Technique). Maybe our family is different... but I don't think children are intimidated by Mindstorms. I think a lot of parents are. However, I don't even think that's the whole problem. I think if LEGO would market this with an option to buy it sorted down into a storage container, it would sell much better and be much more usable. I'd pay extra for that option and have queried others who felt likewise. I'd probably be willing to pay $25-$50 more to save myself the hours it takes to sort these sets down (although I'm a bit faster at it now). We gave our daughter her first Mindstorms for her 7th Christmas and she dove right in. We sorted it out into the Flambeau tackle box I mentioned in a previous post. My daughter was given a K'Nex Ultra this year, at age 9, that we really haven't managed to use. I think the main reason is that I haven't gotten it sorted out into a container where the parts are readily accessible. (Having several Mindstorms RIS sets and their accessory sets sorted down by parts means I can just sit there and throw robots together without much effort. Sorry... but I HATE looking for parts.) I have bought several RIS sets on eBay and Half.com; most were purchased from adults who never used them - I mean, they said they had - but if most of the parts are still taped down and/or sealed in their factory sacks, I'm thinking it was pretty hard to use without even opening the parts bags.... I think it is impossible to utilize a Mindstorms effectively from a pile of parts in a box. I can't imagine anything more frustrating than starting to build and having to search for every bushing or 8-tooth gear. I wish we had been more aggressive about building robots more often with my daughter, but I was trying to leave it as a daughter/dad activity - they don't have many activities they call their own. We had heard Mindstorms would be too hard and I even bought extra books and was ready to buy her RoboLab. Her dad built robots with her at first - she didn't need much help, except some programming assist with the 1.5 RIS software. She even intuited how to turn her Roverbot with no adult input or reading anything that said how.... she just "knew" you turned by having one motor on and one off. Needless to say, the extra books just sat on the shelf. I use them now for reference for teaching. Through my class I am meeting children that do have to be taught the basics (but they're SO open and ready to learn), but out of these 25 or so kids we have worked with this year, there are several that are jumping ahead on projects and just intuiting how things work. We have one 10-year-old who on his 2nd class or so was majorly modifying the project we were working on, adding motors, touch sensors, etc. Plus he added a lot of other embellishments to use friction to his advantage, etc. It is a joy watching these kids brains leap around and encompass the concepts and leap further forward.... Now teaching their parents to retrieve their email has been a different story.... I meet some who are so totally intimidated by computers or anything that looks like one.... One had had her computer and email access for a full year, and had never managed to send or receive a single email. Back to the Mindstorms, I have to say I also think if they would provide the Building Robots with LEGO Mindstorms book (Ferrari, Ferrari, and Hempel), or a subset thereof, with each set, I think the usage would increase dramatically. Of all the books I have, I think this Sygress edition covers the widest range of the basics. We started out with Baum, which was more advanced than we needed (although still a wonderful book and we're working our way toward that and Jin Sato's LEGO Mindstorms: The Master's Technique). 99,124c93,114 The Mindstorms product line is very complicated, as far as toys are = concerned. Things that intimidate children will be put to the wayside. = Eventually, parents will hear from others about how they should spend = the $200 on something other than an RIS because their "little Tommy" got = one for XMas, used it for 2 days, and never touched it again. It makes perfect sense for LEGO to abandon Mindstorms as a consumer = product line and gear it more towards educational institutions. Kids = will be more apt to learn and use the product in an environment where = teaching is a constant--not always the case within the home. Based on that premise, LEGO will already know that legacy product = support will need to continue for years--five, maybe even 10 years down = the road. Because of that, the fundamental parts will be available. = Students will lose or ruin wires, sensors, RCX's, and other parts that = will always need to be replaced. Schools will spend more money = maintaining something over time than they will replacing it. From a = money standpoint, you can see where LEGO might want to cash in on this. But, for those who don't want to order from Pitsco just yet or pay $3 a = wire, there's always this alternative: Cut a 2x4 electric plate in half = and solder wires between it. 'y n y=20 ) W=20 The Mindstorms product line is very complicated, as far as toys are concerned. Things that intimidate children will be put to the wayside. Eventually, parents will hear from others about how they should spend the $200 on something other than an RIS because their "little Tommy" got one for XMas, used it for 2 days, and never touched it again. It makes perfect sense for LEGO to abandon Mindstorms as a consumer product line and gear it more towards educational institutions. Kids will be more apt to learn and use the product in an environment where teaching is a constant--not always the case within the home. Based on that premise, LEGO will already know that legacy product support will need to continue for years--five, maybe even 10 years down the road. Because of that, the fundamental parts will be available. Students will lose or ruin wires, sensors, RCX's, and other parts that will always need to be replaced. Schools will spend more money maintaining something over time than they will replacing it. From a money standpoint, you can see where LEGO might want to cash in on this. But, for those who don't want to order from Pitsco just yet or pay $3 a wire, there's always this alternative: Cut a 2x4 electric plate in half and solder wires between it. 125a116,117 'y n y ) W
lugnet.robotics:18882 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 60 Lines: 48 19,20c20 W779911 contains a touch sensor with one 6" lead and one 12" lead for = $11.95. W779911 contains a touch sensor with one 6" lead and one 12" lead for $11.95. 32,35c32,33 I have received information from LD today which indicates that = Mindstorms and other sundry 9v bits and pieces are not in immediate jeopardy. = (Wipes I have received information from LD today which indicates that Mindstorms and other sundry 9v bits and pieces are not in immediate jeopardy. (Wipes 40,45c38,40 picture of 970041 on the website but it is in the catalog and it seems = to be three of the very short wires which is of no use to me unfortunately. So = I will have to settle for 2 wires for $13.50 which is $3.38 per end, until = the picture of 970041 on the website but it is in the catalog and it seems to be three of the very short wires which is of no use to me unfortunately. So I will have to settle for 2 wires for $13.50 which is $3.38 per end, until the 48,49c43 So, on balance, I'm upbeat about the news that Mindstorms will be around = for So, on balance, I'm upbeat about the news that Mindstorms will be around for 52,57c46,48 should not be confused with Mindstorms - "it doesn't say Mindstorms = anywhere on the box" he pointed out. I hope this means that whatever TLC may have = up its corporate sleeve for Mindstorms in the future remains true to the = same should not be confused with Mindstorms - "it doesn't say Mindstorms anywhere on the box" he pointed out. I hope this means that whatever TLC may have up its corporate sleeve for Mindstorms in the future remains true to the same 66,67c57 >I was very upset to discover that LD have withdrawn 5111 worldwide, = when I >I was very upset to discover that LD have withdrawn 5111 worldwide, when I 73,74c63 >going to do this and they had verbally agreed to do so. They did not! I = am >going to do this and they had verbally agreed to do so. They did not! I am 78d66
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lugnet.robotics:18941 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 8 Lines: 7 18,22c19,22 I hope I am using this mailing system correctly. I am a first time user. = I have one question to ask right now: Will someone point me in the = right direction for instructions on RCX to RCX communication. I would = like to encorporate 2 RCX bricks into one robot to increase the number = of sensor and motor ports. I hope I am using this mailing system correctly. I am a first time user. I have one question to ask right now: Will someone point me in the right direction for instructions on RCX to RCX communication. I would like to encorporate 2 RCX bricks into one robot to increase the number of sensor and motor ports. 26d25
lugnet.robotics:18945 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 55 Lines: 46 22,26c23,26 Someone has posted a current solution for XP, but you need to have a = copy of the installed VC directory off of a win98/winMe installation = first. Unfortunately, it involves the backup and manipulation of 200MB = of data -- something a little cumbersome if you only have 1 computer and = it already has XP or 2000 on it. Someone has posted a current solution for XP, but you need to have a copy of the installed VC directory off of a win98/winMe installation first. Unfortunately, it involves the backup and manipulation of 200MB of data -- something a little cumbersome if you only have 1 computer and it already has XP or 2000 on it. 28,29c28,29 In the next couple days I'll set up an XP system and begin looking into = a more universal solution. In the next couple days I'll set up an XP system and begin looking into a more universal solution. 40,44c40,42 Thanks for taking the time to create and post these directions. I am=20 considering installing VC on XP. Do you know if the apcompat.exe file = (or=20 something similar) is used to achieve compatibility for the XP OS? = Thanks. Thanks for taking the time to create and post these directions. I am considering installing VC on XP. Do you know if the apcompat.exe file (or something similar) is used to achieve compatibility for the XP OS? Thanks. 52,57c50,52 >The instructions have been broken down into 4 pages to compensate for = all >the application snap-shots. There are approximately 50 steps, most of = which >comprise of "clicking next/continue/finish/OK". The pages may take = some >The instructions have been broken down into 4 pages to compensate for all >the application snap-shots. There are approximately 50 steps, most of which >comprise of "clicking next/continue/finish/OK". The pages may take some 60,61c55 >I performed the installation twice. The first time was to see if my = hunch >I performed the installation twice. The first time was to see if my hunch 65,66c59 >would perform the 2.0 firmware update. I then (painfully) stepped = through >would perform the 2.0 firmware update. I then (painfully) stepped through 68,69c61 >training videos again to make sure VC, RIS, and RCX interaction worked = the >training videos again to make sure VC, RIS, and RCX interaction worked the 73,74d64
lugnet.robotics:18946 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 44 Lines: 37 18,19c19,20 I've been alerted that the steps didn't work for one person... the = problem they had was the cam drivers wouldn't load. I've been alerted that the steps didn't work for one person... the problem they had was the cam drivers wouldn't load. 21,23c22,24 I recalled that when I originally tried to force an installation, I = installed the Logitech USB Camera drivers from the VC CD. The pages = have been updated to include those steps (without screen shots). I recalled that when I originally tried to force an installation, I installed the Logitech USB Camera drivers from the VC CD. The pages have been updated to include those steps (without screen shots). 25,26c26,27 This weekend I'll load a spare machine with Windows 2000 and = triple-check the entire procedure. This weekend I'll load a spare machine with Windows 2000 and triple-check the entire procedure. 28,30c29,30 For those that try the proposed solution(s), please let me know how = things turn out so I can update the instructions accordingly if = necessary. For those that try the proposed solution(s), please let me know how things turn out so I can update the instructions accordingly if necessary. 40,45c40,42 >The instructions have been broken down into 4 pages to compensate for = all >the application snap-shots. There are approximately 50 steps, most of = which >comprise of "clicking next/continue/finish/OK". The pages may take = some >The instructions have been broken down into 4 pages to compensate for all >the application snap-shots. There are approximately 50 steps, most of which >comprise of "clicking next/continue/finish/OK". The pages may take some 48,49c45 >I performed the installation twice. The first time was to see if my = hunch >I performed the installation twice. The first time was to see if my hunch 53,54c49 >would perform the 2.0 firmware update. I then (painfully) stepped = through >would perform the 2.0 firmware update. I then (painfully) stepped through 56,57c51 >training videos again to make sure VC, RIS, and RCX interaction worked = the >training videos again to make sure VC, RIS, and RCX interaction worked the 62d55
lugnet.robotics:18967 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 93 Lines: 87 21,22c22 http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?url=3D/downloads/sample.a= sp?url=3D/msdn-files/027/001/963/msdncompositedoc.xml http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?url=/downloads/sample.asp?url=/msdn-files/027/001/963/msdncompositedoc.xml 38,39c38 First off, do you have any clue on how to access the IR port from a = embedded First off, do you have any clue on how to access the IR port from a embedded 42,43c41 I know how to program in C++, and VisualBasic, but how does VisualC++ = work? I know how to program in C++, and VisualBasic, but how does VisualC++ work? 66,67c64 >> >There is no way to use the built in IR port. You have to use the = serial >> >There is no way to use the built in IR port. You have to use the serial 83,84c80 >> I've controlled my RCX, Scout, and Spybotic with my iPAQ 3635 through = the >> I've controlled my RCX, Scout, and Spybotic with my iPAQ 3635 through the 98,99c94 >> 2x4 brick with an IR LED and phototransistor be used rather than the = bulky >> 2x4 brick with an IR LED and phototransistor be used rather than the bulky 111d105
lugnet.robotics:18973 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 123 Lines: 100 31,32c32 dump of the RCX. Then all that is required is a emulator with the = Hitachi dump of the RCX. Then all that is required is a emulator with the Hitachi 37,40c37,38 one, you wouldn't be allowed to distribute it (well, you might, if LEGO = was reaaaaaaaaaally nice). So it'd have to be a method that everyone would = be one, you wouldn't be allowed to distribute it (well, you might, if LEGO was reaaaaaaaaaally nice). So it'd have to be a method that everyone would be 43,48c41,43 Ah, I've just read the part about David Edwards' stuff - that is = probably what you'd want to do then. Don't be too scared about starting Stef, = often emulating a system isn't all that hard. I've done a limited emulator = with a Ah, I've just read the part about David Edwards' stuff - that is probably what you'd want to do then. Don't be too scared about starting Stef, often emulating a system isn't all that hard. I've done a limited emulator with a 82,85c77,78 With leJOS, I had a set of source files that described all the methods = and fields, etc available for use in leJOS. This helped greatly, since I = just With leJOS, I had a set of source files that described all the methods and fields, etc available for use in leJOS. This helped greatly, since I just 89,92c82,83 Using the standard firmware, there is no source available AFAIK. You = will have to accept straight NQC source (perhaps the easist solution), or = accept Using the standard firmware, there is no source available AFAIK. You will have to accept straight NQC source (perhaps the easist solution), or accept 94,95c85 source seems like a rather viable option, though I have not checked out = Dave source seems like a rather viable option, though I have not checked out Dave 98,111c88,94 David Edwards has a project (http://sourceforge.net/projects/rcxemul/) = to use the ROM as a base to interpret any code that can run on the RCX, so = any firmware can be used without modification that uses ROM calls (I think = this is all of them, since I am not sure how you would do it otherwise. I'm = not an embedded systems programmer though). I am listed as another = developer, though truthfully I know enough about C to see what the code does, but = have I can't offer any help on what needs to be done. If you know C, and = want to David Edwards has a project (http://sourceforge.net/projects/rcxemul/) to use the ROM as a base to interpret any code that can run on the RCX, so any firmware can be used without modification that uses ROM calls (I think this is all of them, since I am not sure how you would do it otherwise. I'm not an embedded systems programmer though). I am listed as another developer, though truthfully I know enough about C to see what the code does, but have I can't offer any help on what needs to be done. If you know C, and want to 126,135c109,113 I can't think of any links offhand except the Java based Rossum = Playhouse (http://rossum.sourceforge.net) that I used in Simlink. Eventually, = there will be light sources and such created, so the environment will be ready = for you to drop your code in and watch the robot execute. Search for terms = like "robot simulator", "robot simulation framework", etc, and you should = find I can't think of any links offhand except the Java based Rossum Playhouse (http://rossum.sourceforge.net) that I used in Simlink. Eventually, there will be light sources and such created, so the environment will be ready for you to drop your code in and watch the robot execute. Search for terms like "robot simulator", "robot simulation framework", etc, and you should find 141d118
lugnet.robotics:18983 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 62 Lines: 57 18,20c19,21 The emulator allows you to test programs without downloading to a PDA. = This is probably most useful when designing screen layouts and programs = that do not need to access the hardware. The emulator allows you to test programs without downloading to a PDA. This is probably most useful when designing screen layouts and programs that do not need to access the hardware. 22,23c23,24 For developing communications type programs, you'd have to download to = the PDA to test. For developing communications type programs, you'd have to download to the PDA to test. 25,26c26,27 MS's help/development/support sites give examples of how to access the = ports, but I don't know how deep they go. MS's help/development/support sites give examples of how to access the ports, but I don't know how deep they go. 35,36c36 I already have the embedded compiler languages, what is the emulator = for? I already have the embedded compiler languages, what is the emulator for? 43,44c43 In lugnet.robotics, "Rob Limbaugh" <RLimbaugh@greenfieldgroup.com> = writes: In lugnet.robotics, "Rob Limbaugh" <RLimbaugh@greenfieldgroup.com> writes: 48,50c47,48 >http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?url=3D3D/downloads/sampl= e.a=3D >sp?url=3D3D/msdn-files/027/001/963/msdncompositedoc.xml >http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?url=3D/downloads/sample.a= >sp?url=3D/msdn-files/027/001/963/msdncompositedoc.xml 52,53c50 >There's an emulator around there somewhere, too. MS's main PDA page = is: >There's an emulator around there somewhere, too. MS's main PDA page is: 67c64 >First off, do you have any clue on how to access the IR port from a =3D >First off, do you have any clue on how to access the IR port from a = 72d68 =3D 80d75
lugnet.robotics:18995 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 39 Lines: 35 18,21c19,21 Hopefully you aren't using that large of a page file to compensate for = lack of physical RAM. If that's the case, then your page file is = probably corrupted. Change your page file to 400MB and see if that = fixes your problem. Hopefully you aren't using that large of a page file to compensate for lack of physical RAM. If that's the case, then your page file is probably corrupted. Change your page file to 400MB and see if that fixes your problem. 35,38c35,36 it hangs on a screen that says loading. when i kill the process = probe.exe there is an error alert behind it that says quicktime needs at least 3mb = of it hangs on a screen that says loading. when i kill the process probe.exe there is an error alert behind it that says quicktime needs at least 3mb of 52,53c50 > ehm.. Just install it like it says in the manual (that's what worked = for > ehm.. Just install it like it says in the manual (that's what worked for 57d53
lugnet.robotics:19017 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 41 Lines: 33 18,19c19,20 This weekend, I set up a Windows XP Professional system (clean = installation) and set up RIS 2.0 and Vision Command. This weekend, I set up a Windows XP Professional system (clean installation) and set up RIS 2.0 and Vision Command. 34,44c35,40 I would like to install the Brick Command Center/NQC on a system running = XP. I have figured out how to install other programs that were = orginally=20 created for previous version of Windows by using the compatibilty = feature=20 of XP (basically you insert the installation disk, right click on the = setup=20 exectuable, choose 'properties' then 'compatiblity' and then choose=20 whatever previous version of Windows the program will run under). I have = I would like to install the Brick Command Center/NQC on a system running XP. I have figured out how to install other programs that were orginally created for previous version of Windows by using the compatibilty feature of XP (basically you insert the installation disk, right click on the setup exectuable, choose 'properties' then 'compatiblity' and then choose whatever previous version of Windows the program will run under). I have 47,53c43,46 What I would like to know is if I still have to install RIS 2.0 before I = install the Brick Command Center? It strikes me that there would likely = be=20 some RCX that RIS installs that the NCQ will need to access. Is the=20 correct? Has anyone else tried this compatibilty feature in XP with RIS = What I would like to know is if I still have to install RIS 2.0 before I install the Brick Command Center? It strikes me that there would likely be some RCX that RIS installs that the NCQ will need to access. Is the correct? Has anyone else tried this compatibilty feature in XP with RIS 59,60d51
lugnet.robotics:19024 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 93 Lines: 78 41,42c42 I called the LEGO Technical Support about a month ago, and they said = they I called the LEGO Technical Support about a month ago, and they said they 44,45c44 shop. I am now writing a piece of software as a replacement, but it's = not shop. I am now writing a piece of software as a replacement, but it's not 53,54c52 > the date, but it was close to the date for the Studios patch. It = sounds to > the date, but it was close to the date for the Studios patch. It sounds to 61,64c59,60 > PS: I apologize if I'm sending this to the list the wrong way. Somehow = I > don't think the web posting service doesn't like me, so this is the = only > PS: I apologize if I'm sending this to the list the wrong way. Somehow I > don't think the web posting service doesn't like me, so this is the only 68,71c64,65 > >I recently found the following message regarding LEGO MovieMaker that = was > >posted on a newsgroup (sorry, I didn't keep track of which one). I = think > >I recently found the following message regarding LEGO MovieMaker that was > >posted on a newsgroup (sorry, I didn't keep track of which one). I think 74,75c68 > >trouble of making a patch for this product then maybe they are = planning > >trouble of making a patch for this product then maybe they are planning 80,81c73 > >>"#1349 LEGO and Steven Spielberg MovieMaker Set is not compatible = with > >>"#1349 LEGO and Steven Spielberg MovieMaker Set is not compatible with 83,88c75,77 > >>however, our LEGO Software designers are currently working on a = patch > >>for this problem. We have just learned that the projected release = date > >>for the patch is now September 30, 2002. The complimentary patch = will > >>however, our LEGO Software designers are currently working on a patch > >>for this problem. We have just learned that the projected release date > >>for the patch is now September 30, 2002. The complimentary patch will 90,93c79,80 > >>available. To be placed on the mailing list to receive the Studios = XP > >>patch, please call our Consumer Services Department at = 1-800-422-5346 > >>available. To be placed on the mailing list to receive the Studios XP > >>patch, please call our Consumer Services Department at 1-800-422-5346 108,109c95 > >Did you check the web site first?: = http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics > >Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics 111,112d96
lugnet.robotics:19049 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 104 Lines: 74 19,26c20,23 >A) Make up a resistive network from the internal 10k pullup resistor and= > 2 external resistors (one pulldown to ground, one to the battery to b= e > measured), and calculate output voltage as a function of input voltag= e >B) Extend the range from 0..5V to 0..15V by a resistive divider followe= d >A) Make up a resistive network from the internal 10k pullup resistor and > 2 external resistors (one pulldown to ground, one to the battery to be > measured), and calculate output voltage as a function of input voltage >B) Extend the range from 0..5V to 0..15V by a resistive divider followed 31,36c28,30 discharges, the output voltage drops, slowly at first but then faster whe= n it gets close to being empty. By the time it reaches, say, 10V, it's time= to recharge it. So when you're monitoring batteries, you only bother with= discharges, the output voltage drops, slowly at first but then faster when it gets close to being empty. By the time it reaches, say, 10V, it's time to recharge it. So when you're monitoring batteries, you only bother with 38,41c32,33 the full range of the RCX input sensitivity to these "top" few volts and = so get better resolution. = the full range of the RCX input sensitivity to these "top" few volts and so get better resolution. 47,48c39 resolution - maybe you're monitoring the battery voltage to see whether a= resolution - maybe you're monitoring the battery voltage to see whether a 56,59c47,48 Rather than use an Op amp to offset the range, use a Zener diode instead = of the upper resistor of the potential divider described in (A). I'd use a 1= 0V Rather than use an Op amp to offset the range, use a Zener diode instead of the upper resistor of the potential divider described in (A). I'd use a 10V 63,70c52,55 So the circuit is: = Battery +terminal to Zener +terminal; = Zener -terminal to resistor-1 terminal A and to resistor-2 termin= al A = So the circuit is: Battery +terminal to Zener +terminal; Zener -terminal to resistor-1 terminal A and to resistor-2 terminal A 72,73c57 resistor-2 terminal B to the RCX sensor input = resistor-2 terminal B to the RCX sensor input 75,80c59,61 What value for resistor-1? I'd say a couple of thousand ohms. If you use = a smaller one, you're throwing away more current from the battery. If you u= se a larger one, you get a bigger effect from the input impedance (and pullu= p) What value for resistor-1? I'd say a couple of thousand ohms. If you use a smaller one, you're throwing away more current from the battery. If you use a larger one, you get a bigger effect from the input impedance (and pullup) 83,86c64,65 But then comes the next worry. If you're charging a car battery then, the= charger might produce more than 15V (unlikely but better safe than sorry)= . But then comes the next worry. If you're charging a car battery then, the charger might produce more than 15V (unlikely but better safe than sorry). 88,89c67 imagine that the RCX sensor input has an internal diode to stop the volta= ge imagine that the RCX sensor input has an internal diode to stop the voltage 93,94c71 reaches 20V (extremely unlikely!). That implies resistor-2 should be 2.5k= reaches 20V (extremely unlikely!). That implies resistor-2 should be 2.5k 97,102c74,76 Which terminal of the RCX input do you connect to? What if you get it wro= ng and connect to the ground terminal instead of the actual sensor terminal?= Don't worry, no damage will be done - you wn't measure the battery voltag= e, Which terminal of the RCX input do you connect to? What if you get it wrong and connect to the ground terminal instead of the actual sensor terminal? Don't worry, no damage will be done - you wn't measure the battery voltage, 106,107c80 directly to the RCX input, you might damage the RCX. Always have resistor= -2 directly to the RCX input, you might damage the RCX. Always have resistor-2 115,118c88,89 Take care. Do it at your own risk. Don't blame me if it all goes horribly= wrong. Mileage may vary. Always read the label. Investments may go down a= s Take care. Do it at your own risk. Don't blame me if it all goes horribly wrong. Mileage may vary. Always read the label. Investments may go down as 123d93
lugnet.robotics:19058 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 95 Lines: 88 20,32c21,32 I was holding off on posting this information because part of my = solution includes the distribution of some of VC's files that cannot be = installed or moved directly from the CD under WinXP. However, someone = had already discovered the page before I ever released the address = publicly and posted the address within LEGO's Mindstorms Forums. Last Saturday, I spent hours varying the files contained in the = "pre-install ZIP" and adjusting the install procedure accordingly to = help keep the issue of software distribution at bay. Hopefully all I'll = see in the mail from LEGO is my recent S@H order. Since someone has = already posted the link, it's only fair the rest of the AFOL's know = about it, too. Skip to the links at the end of the message to escape = technical boredom! I was holding off on posting this information because part of my solution includes the distribution of some of VC's files that cannot be installed or moved directly from the CD under WinXP. However, someone had already discovered the page before I ever released the address publicly and posted the address within LEGO's Mindstorms Forums. Last Saturday, I spent hours varying the files contained in the "pre-install ZIP" and adjusting the install procedure accordingly to help keep the issue of software distribution at bay. Hopefully all I'll see in the mail from LEGO is my recent S@H order. Since someone has already posted the link, it's only fair the rest of the AFOL's know about it, too. Skip to the links at the end of the message to escape technical boredom! 37,55c37,49 Ideas have been posted suggesting one to copy a working Vision Command = installation from a Win98/Me computer to a Win2K/XP system. I tried = this twice on each OS and came to the conclusion that those messages = were posted by users of Win98/Me systems that were upgraded to Win2K/XP = using the "Windows Upgrade" CD's -- which is completely different than = having an OEM, VAR, or scratch Win2K/XP installation on a system. If = you bought your computer with 2K/XP pre-installed, then it's an = OEM/VAR/Scratch install. For the Win2K solution, a little known "Application Compatibility" = utility is used. WinXP has a version built-in and installed as part of = the OS. Unfortunately, neither work for installing VC into XP. The This solution I came up with actually blends the Win2K solution with = the idea of copying a working installation. Without question, there = are many people with VC that either don't have access to a 2nd computer. = Or, they have access to a 2nd computer but lack a convenient way to = move the files between computers. For these reasons, I have created a = "pre-install" ZIP file. Ideas have been posted suggesting one to copy a working Vision Command installation from a Win98/Me computer to a Win2K/XP system. I tried this twice on each OS and came to the conclusion that those messages were posted by users of Win98/Me systems that were upgraded to Win2K/XP using the "Windows Upgrade" CD's -- which is completely different than having an OEM, VAR, or scratch Win2K/XP installation on a system. If you bought your computer with 2K/XP pre-installed, then it's an OEM/VAR/Scratch install. For the Win2K solution, a little known "Application Compatibility" utility is used. WinXP has a version built-in and installed as part of the OS. Unfortunately, neither work for installing VC into XP. The This solution I came up with actually blends the Win2K solution with the idea of copying a working installation. Without question, there are many people with VC that either don't have access to a 2nd computer. Or, they have access to a 2nd computer but lack a convenient way to move the files between computers. For these reasons, I have created a "pre-install" ZIP file. 64,65c58,59 If you don't own both of these, then the procedure I outline is a waste = of your time. If you don't own both of these, then the procedure I outline is a waste of your time. 71,73c65,67 * Only files that are extracted from the original setup program during = a complete/full install minus about 300Meg of data which is not = compressed on the Vision Command CD. * Only files that are extracted from the original setup program during a complete/full install minus about 300Meg of data which is not compressed on the Vision Command CD. 77c71 * A replacement shortcut (to VCS.EXE instead of VisionCommand.exe) that = * A replacement shortcut (to VCS.EXE instead of VisionCommand.exe) that 84,85c78,79 * About 300Meg of files required (one of the reasons I deliberately = chose to only work with a complete/full install) * About 300Meg of files required (one of the reasons I deliberately chose to only work with a complete/full install) 89,90c83,84 * None of the registry entries (they will be created by the camera = setup program on the VC disc) * None of the registry entries (they will be created by the camera setup program on the VC disc) 92c86 * Any of the RIS 2.0 files=20 * Any of the RIS 2.0 files 105,107c99,101 Remember, I'm not responsible for any outcome, pro or con. Use at your = own risk, etc. I'm reasonably sure that calling LEGO and expecting them = to help with the install is out of the question. Remember, I'm not responsible for any outcome, pro or con. Use at your own risk, etc. I'm reasonably sure that calling LEGO and expecting them to help with the install is out of the question. 109,110c103,104 As always, please let me know if the documented procedure doesn't work = for you so I can update the page(s) appropriately.=20 As always, please let me know if the documented procedure doesn't work for you so I can update the page(s) appropriately. 113,114d106
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lugnet.robotics:19076 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 50 Lines: 49 21,47c22,47 2) Hack the cam so that data between the video chip and USB = controller becomes wireless 3) Build a video driver package for various existing wireless cams = to bluff the VC software 4) Create a replacement for VC that will allow for other types of = video input The first option is possible. Let's throw IR out the window because it = would interfere with RCX-to-other communications. The RF components = capable of transmitting a bidirectional USB signal are expensive. Half = a year ago I found a company that had a development kit available for = creating wireless USB devices. They wanted around $800 for it. While the 2nd option is possibly cheaper, it would involve tearing apart = the camera, redesigning a circuit, etc. Such an endeavor is probably = too impractical. I doubt anyone could hack a cam for less than what an = X10 costs, which is already wireless. I favor 3 and 4 almost on an equal level (leaning more towards 4, = though). Both require programming skills over mechanical skills, which = would make the solution more "user friendly" for the masses. A special video driver would allow those comfortable in the original = programming environments to participate in wireless video activities. = The third-party replacement for VC could cater to the more technical = crowd and could even open up areas like stereo vision or break the "8 = region" barrier. 2) Hack the cam so that data between the video chip and USB controller becomes wireless 3) Build a video driver package for various existing wireless cams to bluff the VC software 4) Create a replacement for VC that will allow for other types of video input The first option is possible. Let's throw IR out the window because it would interfere with RCX-to-other communications. The RF components capable of transmitting a bidirectional USB signal are expensive. Half a year ago I found a company that had a development kit available for creating wireless USB devices. They wanted around $800 for it. While the 2nd option is possibly cheaper, it would involve tearing apart the camera, redesigning a circuit, etc. Such an endeavor is probably too impractical. I doubt anyone could hack a cam for less than what an X10 costs, which is already wireless. I favor 3 and 4 almost on an equal level (leaning more towards 4, though). Both require programming skills over mechanical skills, which would make the solution more "user friendly" for the masses. A special video driver would allow those comfortable in the original programming environments to participate in wireless video activities. The third-party replacement for VC could cater to the more technical crowd and could even open up areas like stereo vision or break the "8 region" barrier. 60c60 > Has anyone tried to convert the Lego Camera into a wireless cam?=20 > Has anyone tried to convert the Lego Camera into a wireless cam? 68d67
lugnet.robotics:19077 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 60 Lines: 59 21c22 From: Rob Limbaugh=20 From: Rob Limbaugh 31,57c32,57 2) Hack the cam so that data between the video chip and USB = controller becomes wireless 3) Build a video driver package for various existing wireless cams = to bluff the VC software 4) Create a replacement for VC that will allow for other types of = video input The first option is possible. Let's throw IR out the window because it = would interfere with RCX-to-other communications. The RF components = capable of transmitting a bidirectional USB signal are expensive. Half = a year ago I found a company that had a development kit available for = creating wireless USB devices. They wanted around $800 for it. While the 2nd option is possibly cheaper, it would involve tearing apart = the camera, redesigning a circuit, etc. Such an endeavor is probably = too impractical. I doubt anyone could hack a cam for less than what an = X10 costs, which is already wireless. I favor 3 and 4 almost on an equal level (leaning more towards 4, = though). Both require programming skills over mechanical skills, which = would make the solution more "user friendly" for the masses. A special video driver would allow those comfortable in the original = programming environments to participate in wireless video activities. = The third-party replacement for VC could cater to the more technical = crowd and could even open up areas like stereo vision or break the "8 = region" barrier. 2) Hack the cam so that data between the video chip and USB controller becomes wireless 3) Build a video driver package for various existing wireless cams to bluff the VC software 4) Create a replacement for VC that will allow for other types of video input The first option is possible. Let's throw IR out the window because it would interfere with RCX-to-other communications. The RF components capable of transmitting a bidirectional USB signal are expensive. Half a year ago I found a company that had a development kit available for creating wireless USB devices. They wanted around $800 for it. While the 2nd option is possibly cheaper, it would involve tearing apart the camera, redesigning a circuit, etc. Such an endeavor is probably too impractical. I doubt anyone could hack a cam for less than what an X10 costs, which is already wireless. I favor 3 and 4 almost on an equal level (leaning more towards 4, though). Both require programming skills over mechanical skills, which would make the solution more "user friendly" for the masses. A special video driver would allow those comfortable in the original programming environments to participate in wireless video activities. The third-party replacement for VC could cater to the more technical crowd and could even open up areas like stereo vision or break the "8 region" barrier. 70c70 > Has anyone tried to convert the Lego Camera into a wireless cam?=20 > Has anyone tried to convert the Lego Camera into a wireless cam? 78d77
lugnet.robotics:19094 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 40 Lines: 35 22,23c23 = 25c25 to take when following a line.=A0However, I was skeptical that the bot to take when following a line. However, I was skeptical that the bot 33,34c33 The results are shown here = The results are shown here 42,43c41 are preparing for competitive challenges. = are preparing for competitive challenges. 47,48c45 tried one with 3 light sensors, though but I should think 2 is enough. = tried one with 3 light sensors, though but I should think 2 is enough. 51,52c48 -- = -- 57c53 =2E.. where air is power! ... where air is power!
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lugnet.robotics:19098 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 It would be interesting to see the results of following acute angles, = zig-zags (with combinations of acute, right, and obtuse angles), = line-branching, and wavy-lines leading to zig-zag lines. It would be interesting to see the results of following acute angles, zig-zags (with combinations of acute, right, and obtuse angles), line-branching, and wavy-lines leading to zig-zag lines. 37c38 =20 39c40 to take when following a line.=A0However, I was skeptical that the bot to take when following a line. However, I was skeptical that the bot 47c48 The results are shown here=20 The results are shown here 55c56 are preparing for competitive challenges.=20 are preparing for competitive challenges. 59c60 tried one with 3 light sensors, though but I should think 2 is enough.=20 tried one with 3 light sensors, though but I should think 2 is enough. 62c63 --=20 -- 68d68
lugnet.robotics:19101 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 48 Lines: 43 18,41c19,38 Do any of the "third party" firmware options for the RCX allow one to = control what is sent through the H8 serial port? If so, then it should = be possible to use an RCX to send/receive any 38KHz IR signal falling = within the bps/baud/processing limits of the RCX. To take that idea further... if one knew which components to hack in the = IR LED modulation circuitry it should be possible to convert the RCX to = 40KHz IR operation. Both thoughts could open the door to using the RCX for CIR (Consumer IR) = applications. (Have the RCX turn on a stereo or TV when you enter the = room... make a sound level sensor to adjust the volume on the TV/Stereo = during commercials). Not to mention it would be really cool to use one = RCX to issue commands to a Spybotic, a Mana, another RCX, and a Scout = via using the normal message codes or by changing the protocol on the = fly. I think the "IR" cars are set #4589 ($69.99). The controller looks like = the one for the Manas and has 3 channels. The site lists it as "RC", = but "RC" could stand for "Remote Control" instead of "Radio Control". The other two "RC" car sets are #8475 ($129.99) and #5599 ($47.99). = Both of those are "Radio Control". I think the #8475 is the replacement = for #5599. Do any of the "third party" firmware options for the RCX allow one to control what is sent through the H8 serial port? If so, then it should be possible to use an RCX to send/receive any 38KHz IR signal falling within the bps/baud/processing limits of the RCX. To take that idea further... if one knew which components to hack in the IR LED modulation circuitry it should be possible to convert the RCX to 40KHz IR operation. Both thoughts could open the door to using the RCX for CIR (Consumer IR) applications. (Have the RCX turn on a stereo or TV when you enter the room... make a sound level sensor to adjust the volume on the TV/Stereo during commercials). Not to mention it would be really cool to use one RCX to issue commands to a Spybotic, a Mana, another RCX, and a Scout via using the normal message codes or by changing the protocol on the fly. I think the "IR" cars are set #4589 ($69.99). The controller looks like the one for the Manas and has 3 channels. The site lists it as "RC", but "RC" could stand for "Remote Control" instead of "Radio Control". The other two "RC" car sets are #8475 ($129.99) and #5599 ($47.99). Both of those are "Radio Control". I think the #8475 is the replacement for #5599. 50c47 (Just back from hollydays =3D) (Just back from hollydays =) 54,55c51 If they use the same IR serial protocol as do the MANAS units or = Spybotics, If they use the same IR serial protocol as do the MANAS units or Spybotics, 66,67d61
lugnet.robotics:19104 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 27 Lines: 26 21,27c22,28 > > Both thoughts could open the door to using the RCX for CIR=20 > > (Consumer IR) applications. (Have the RCX turn on a stereo=20 > > or TV when you enter the room... make a sound level sensor to=20 > > adjust the volume on the TV/Stereo during commercials). Not=20 > > to mention it would be really cool to use one RCX to issue=20 > > commands to a Spybotic, a Mana, another RCX, and a Scout via=20 > > using the normal message codes or by changing the protocol=20 > > Both thoughts could open the door to using the RCX for CIR > > (Consumer IR) applications. (Have the RCX turn on a stereo > > or TV when you enter the room... make a sound level sensor to > > adjust the volume on the TV/Stereo during commercials). Not > > to mention it would be really cool to use one RCX to issue > > commands to a Spybotic, a Mana, another RCX, and a Scout via > > using the normal message codes or by changing the protocol 29,30c30,31 >=20 > Well, as I think you know, it's already possible with=20 > > Well, as I think you know, it's already possible with 32c33 >=20 > 34,44c35,39 I haven't yet looked into what control capabilities exist with RCX2. = All I've gathered (and I could be way off base) is that it can only = mimick the various LEGO IR remote control devices. What I meant was an = ability to have one RCX act as a "PC with IR tower" for the various = smart devices and/or act as a remote for the others. Could a master RCX have a set of program routines in memory (or generate = them on the fly) to replace routines on other RCX's and then issue the = remote control command to start/stop those programs as needed? Could it = then issue a command to a Spybotic or Mana? Could it then send a = message to a Scout? I haven't yet looked into what control capabilities exist with RCX2. All I've gathered (and I could be way off base) is that it can only mimick the various LEGO IR remote control devices. What I meant was an ability to have one RCX act as a "PC with IR tower" for the various smart devices and/or act as a remote for the others. 45a41,44 Could a master RCX have a set of program routines in memory (or generate them on the fly) to replace routines on other RCX's and then issue the remote control command to start/stop those programs as needed? Could it then issue a command to a Spybotic or Mana? Could it then send a message to a Scout?
lugnet.robotics:19122 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 83 Lines: 79 23,24c24 >(maybe also with tri-star wheels)... But if somebody find a better= solution, >(maybe also with tri-star wheels)... But if somebody find a better solution, 28,31c28,30 I like the tri-wheel design. If you make if big enough it shouldn't have=20 any trouble. Something like this (or bigger):=20 http://mindstorms.lego.com/inventions/invention.asp?ID=3D{18963B1A-0087-241F= -2DE2-5BD563820A4A}&slotN=3D2 I like the tri-wheel design. If you make if big enough it shouldn't have any trouble. Something like this (or bigger): http://mindstorms.lego.com/inventions/invention.asp?ID={18963B1A-0087-241F-2DE2-5BD563820A4A}&slotN=2 33,34c32 >For the step, it begins at 1cm and it will be increased until no v=E9hicule= is >For the step, it begins at 1cm and it will be increased until no véhicule is 39c37 I know this is harebrained, but how about some sort of winch system? It=20 I know this is harebrained, but how about some sort of winch system? It 93,94c91 > > ----------------------------- Steve Baker= ------------------------------- > > ----------------------------- Steve Baker ------------------------------- 104,105d100
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lugnet.robotics:19135 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 17 Lines: 18 28c29 Luis Angel Vicente S=E1nchez Luis Angel Vicente Sánchez 36,38c37,38 emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos (bookmarks)-foros -Chat emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos (bookmarks)-foros -Chat
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lugnet.robotics:19170 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 24 Lines: 23 23,26c24,27 For what it's worth, you may want to consider purchasing the 2.0 upgrade = instead. The software does not require a working 1.5 installation at = all. Also, the updates on that CD are necessary if you plan to use the = USB tower or Vision Command on Windows 2000 or Windows XP. For what it's worth, you may want to consider purchasing the 2.0 upgrade instead. The software does not require a working 1.5 installation at all. Also, the updates on that CD are necessary if you plan to use the USB tower or Vision Command on Windows 2000 or Windows XP. 38,40c39,40 My Mindstorm 1.5 CD is broken. Where can I find the software to = download? Regards,=20 My Mindstorm 1.5 CD is broken. Where can I find the software to download? Regards, 42,43d41
lugnet.robotics:19184 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 42 Rob = Lines: 30 20a20 Rob 24,25c24 There used to be a saying: "There are no interrupts on the Space Shuttle"= . There used to be a saying: "There are no interrupts on the Space Shuttle". 28,29c27 (By "Events", I assume you mean interrupts. Really, using Events is just = a (By "Events", I assume you mean interrupts. Really, using Events is just a 35,36c33 chip used in the RCX) any always avoid interrupts if I possibly can. = chip used in the RCX) any always avoid interrupts if I possibly can. 38,41c35,36 Typically, the chips have to keep an eye on half a dozen tasks at once - = a couple of serial I/O ports, a coin mechanism, a swipe-card reader a cance= l Typically, the chips have to keep an eye on half a dozen tasks at once - a couple of serial I/O ports, a coin mechanism, a swipe-card reader a cancel 44,47c39,40 track of what each task is doing and never allow any task to hog more tha= n a millisecond of processing time but the programs must be 100% reliable a= nd track of what each task is doing and never allow any task to hog more than a millisecond of processing time but the programs must be 100% reliable and 50,57c43,44 Very occasionally I need to respond in microseconds and am forced to use = an interrupt. But usually a millisecond response time is perfectly acceptabl= e. Programing with interrupts is guaranteed to expose you to the full force = of Finagle's Law: "Anything that can go wrong, will". = Very occasionally I need to respond in microseconds and am forced to use an interrupt. But usually a millisecond response time is perfectly acceptable. 58a46,47 Programing with interrupts is guaranteed to expose you to the full force of Finagle's Law: "Anything that can go wrong, will". 61d49
lugnet.robotics:19267 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 112 Lines: 111 70,72c71,72 (turning on and off supply that is) so you can send data to the =B5C. = And the =B5C can send data to the RCX by giving specific sensor values. (turning on and off supply that is) so you can send data to the µC. And the µC can send data to the RCX by giving specific sensor values. 132,134d131
lugnet.robotics:19276 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 86 Lines: 78 21,26c22,24 > Would a Cybermaster be usable? It communicates via RF and therefore doe= sn't > need line of sight. It also has built-in odometers which might be usefu= l > for dead reckoning navigation, although I've never used the odometers a= nd > Would a Cybermaster be usable? It communicates via RF and therefore doesn't > need line of sight. It also has built-in odometers which might be useful > for dead reckoning navigation, although I've never used the odometers and 34,43c32,36 Basically I think that for communication a Cybermaster would be better, b= ut it=20 lacks a bit of "programmability" as far as I know. And we also want to at= tach=20 individual sensors and do more than just navigation. The IR to RFand RF t= o IR=20 converters sound good. So the RCX and the PC don't even know that they ar= e=20 not communicating only over IR (although we haven't found a fitting syste= m=20 Basically I think that for communication a Cybermaster would be better, but it lacks a bit of "programmability" as far as I know. And we also want to attach individual sensors and do more than just navigation. The IR to RFand RF to IR converters sound good. So the RCX and the PC don't even know that they are not communicating only over IR (although we haven't found a fitting system 106,107d98
lugnet.robotics:19302 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 108 Lines: 92 20,28c21,28 Say, for argument, an RCX sends "1001", which, in IR, would be "0110". = The IR detector of WIRRL would do nothing for the first bit ("0"), but = the next bit ("1") should be sent over the RFTX, and, according to the = current logic/schematic, it is. However, I never disabled the line = between the RFRX and the Oscillator, so the RFRX will receive the = transmission from the RFTX (because all are same frequency). This would = make IR =3D 1 and RF =3D 1. According to the truth tables, priority = will be given to RFRX data and the third bit of IR ("1") would never be = sent. Say, for argument, an RCX sends "1001", which, in IR, would be "0110". The IR detector of WIRRL would do nothing for the first bit ("0"), but the next bit ("1") should be sent over the RFTX, and, according to the current logic/schematic, it is. However, I never disabled the line between the RFRX and the Oscillator, so the RFRX will receive the transmission from the RFTX (because all are same frequency). This would make IR = 1 and RF = 1. According to the truth tables, priority will be given to RFRX data and the third bit of IR ("1") would never be sent. 30,31c30,31 Apparently, while creating the truth tables, I gave consideration to = this... I just never included it in the schematic. Apparently, while creating the truth tables, I gave consideration to this... I just never included it in the schematic. 34c34 From: Rob Limbaugh=20 From: Rob Limbaugh 42,45c42,43 I've made a new schematic (WIRRL Rev. 2a) using a better TX/RX pair = (Linx LC Series) and I think I've found a possible better solution for handling = flow I've made a new schematic (WIRRL Rev. 2a) using a better TX/RX pair (Linx LC Series) and I think I've found a possible better solution for handling flow 49,50c47 Out of nowhere, it dawned on me that I should use a truth table to = figure Out of nowhere, it dawned on me that I should use a truth table to figure 60,61c57 PS - Just as before, I don't claim this circuit works... I haven't built = it, PS - Just as before, I don't claim this circuit works... I haven't built it, 78,79c74 > you have a reliable 38kHz IR carrier wave). The problem is = eliminating > you have a reliable 38kHz IR carrier wave). The problem is eliminating 84,85c79 > things, I decided I should probably document where I am now. = (Spending > things, I decided I should probably document where I am now. (Spending 90,91c84 > [The real story: I couldn't find everything. The stuff I did find = was > [The real story: I couldn't find everything. The stuff I did find was 93,94c86 > of order or in multiple places. I couldn't read some of my own notes, = and > of order or in multiple places. I couldn't read some of my own notes, and 106,117c98,103 > Today I was working with a possible half duplex communication = switching > solution, which is set to be controlled by a 4001 NOR gate. A 200us = delay > is set for both sides of traffic. So, when the RX side is = re-transmitting > IR data, the 4001 is supposed to turn off the data line for the IR = decoder > (which feeds the RF TX) and hold it off 200us after the line goes low = so > feedback doesn't occur. This is where I'm currently stuck. Sadly, = I'm > Today I was working with a possible half duplex communication switching > solution, which is set to be controlled by a 4001 NOR gate. A 200us delay > is set for both sides of traffic. So, when the RX side is re-transmitting > IR data, the 4001 is supposed to turn off the data line for the IR decoder > (which feeds the RF TX) and hold it off 200us after the line goes low so > feedback doesn't occur. This is where I'm currently stuck. Sadly, I'm 119,120c105 > an electronics guru, so it will take me some time to figure things = out. > an electronics guru, so it will take me some time to figure things out. 126,127d110
lugnet.robotics:19306 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 120 Lines: 104 18,19c19,20 Just in case people are a bit confused by the schematic, the circuit = would be needed for each device that will participate in an RF bridge. Just in case people are a bit confused by the schematic, the circuit would be needed for each device that will participate in an RF bridge. 23,24c24,25 1) As soon as you attempt communication between more than two devices, = one device would have to be a proxy messenger. 1) As soon as you attempt communication between more than two devices, one device would have to be a proxy messenger. 26,27c27,28 2) Using two different RF frequencies doesn't solve the = IR-reflection-feedback problem that would exist. 2) Using two different RF frequencies doesn't solve the IR-reflection-feedback problem that would exist. 29,57c30,55 A single frequency solves #1 (BTW, the current IR communication is = single frequency: 38kHz). Using logic between the IR side and the RF = side solves direction switching and #2 by disabling the appropriate data = path. One solution could involve using a programmable logic device with 4 I/0 = lines (at least two in and two out). If data comes in from the RFRX = first, then ignore any incoming data on IRRX until ~1.67us after = incoming RFRX data ceases. If data comes in from the IRRX first, then = ignore any incoming data on RFRX until ~1.67us after incoming IRRX data = ceases. With the right PLD, the I/O line used for IR-out could be = pulsed at 38kHz without an external oscillator circuit. Even in this = case, the one RF frequency could be used. Another option would be to modify the "Hardwired RCX" solution Peter = Balch came up with (http://www.abs-robotics.com/other/hardware.htm). = There are arrows in the diagram indicating data direction. What you = could gain by using different RF frequencies is the ability to do = full-duplex communication (which may require customized firmware and/or = PC software to unlock that ability). Perhaps I should add a "pros and cons" section to the page for the = various ideas... The two ideas listed above have several other design = issues to consider beyond what is mentioned here. I don't know much about electronics, either. Part of the reason for = pursuing this endeavor is because I'm getting bored with "Connect red = wire from J5 to spring 34". So, like you, I would hope that if I'm = making a wrong turn, someone would point it out to me. A single frequency solves #1 (BTW, the current IR communication is single frequency: 38kHz). Using logic between the IR side and the RF side solves direction switching and #2 by disabling the appropriate data path. One solution could involve using a programmable logic device with 4 I/0 lines (at least two in and two out). If data comes in from the RFRX first, then ignore any incoming data on IRRX until ~1.67us after incoming RFRX data ceases. If data comes in from the IRRX first, then ignore any incoming data on RFRX until ~1.67us after incoming IRRX data ceases. With the right PLD, the I/O line used for IR-out could be pulsed at 38kHz without an external oscillator circuit. Even in this case, the one RF frequency could be used. Another option would be to modify the "Hardwired RCX" solution Peter Balch came up with (http://www.abs-robotics.com/other/hardware.htm). There are arrows in the diagram indicating data direction. What you could gain by using different RF frequencies is the ability to do full-duplex communication (which may require customized firmware and/or PC software to unlock that ability). Perhaps I should add a "pros and cons" section to the page for the various ideas... The two ideas listed above have several other design issues to consider beyond what is mentioned here. I don't know much about electronics, either. Part of the reason for pursuing this endeavor is because I'm getting bored with "Connect red wire from J5 to spring 34". So, like you, I would hope that if I'm making a wrong turn, someone would point it out to me. 69,70c67 wouldn't it just be easier to have tranceiver at two different = frequencies? wouldn't it just be easier to have tranceiver at two different frequencies? 78,79c75 In lugnet.robotics, "Rob Limbaugh" <RLimbaugh@greenfieldgroup.com> = writes: In lugnet.robotics, "Rob Limbaugh" <RLimbaugh@greenfieldgroup.com> writes: 83d78 =3D 85d79 =3D 87,93c81,84 =3D >current logic/schematic, it is. However, I never disabled the line =3D >between the RFRX and the Oscillator, so the RFRX will receive the =3D >transmission from the RFTX (because all are same frequency). This = would =3D >make IR =3D3D 1 and RF =3D3D 1. According to the truth tables, = priority =3D >current logic/schematic, it is. However, I never disabled the line = >between the RFRX and the Oscillator, so the RFRX will receive the = >transmission from the RFTX (because all are same frequency). This would = >make IR =3D 1 and RF =3D 1. According to the truth tables, priority = 95d85 =3D 99d88 =3D 103c92 >From: Rob Limbaugh=3D20 >From: Rob Limbaugh=20 111c100 >I've made a new schematic (WIRRL Rev. 2a) using a better TX/RX pair =3D >I've made a new schematic (WIRRL Rev. 2a) using a better TX/RX pair = 114d102 =3D 116,117c104 >of data. This new diagram eliminates three transistors and replaces = the >of data. This new diagram eliminates three transistors and replaces the 120c107 >Out of nowhere, it dawned on me that I should use a truth table to =3D >Out of nowhere, it dawned on me that I should use a truth table to = 122,123c109 >out how to move the data. I've included the truth table information = and >out how to move the data. I've included the truth table information and 132,133c118 >PS - Just as before, I don't claim this circuit works... I haven't = built =3D >PS - Just as before, I don't claim this circuit works... I haven't built = 138d122
lugnet.robotics:19316 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 50 Lines: 38 24,25c25 9600bps at 25m going up and down stairs into the cellar, through doorways= , 9600bps at 25m going up and down stairs into the cellar, through doorways, 29,32c29,30 transmitter/receiver pair for 13 UK pounds but my experience is that (wit= h luck) you get what you pay for. More expensive ones go further. And you c= an transmitter/receiver pair for 13 UK pounds but my experience is that (with luck) you get what you pay for. More expensive ones go further. And you can 35,44c33,37 I subsequently made a small radio-LAN system that would allow a dozen or = so "stations" to communicate. There was one central base-station and several= out-stations. A "packet" was passed between the base and each out-station= in turn with the usual checksums and retries. Occasional packets would te= st for other outstations coming online. The whole of the packet switching wa= s I subsequently made a small radio-LAN system that would allow a dozen or so "stations" to communicate. There was one central base-station and several out-stations. A "packet" was passed between the base and each out-station in turn with the usual checksums and retries. Occasional packets would test for other outstations coming online. The whole of the packet switching was 47,48c40 So, yes, it is possible and it will work within a building. My developmen= t So, yes, it is possible and it will work within a building. My development 56,57c48 them up using the direct connections I described in an earlier posting. Y= ou them up using the direct connections I described in an earlier posting. You 59,62c50,51 piece of straight wire (one-quarter wavelength =3D 170mm) as the aerial. = If it were me, I'd expect to have a working system within a couple of hours.= piece of straight wire (one-quarter wavelength = 170mm) as the aerial. If it were me, I'd expect to have a working system within a couple of hours. 69d57
lugnet.robotics:19335 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 48 Lines: 41 28,29c29 The idea is that it's "easier" for the two wheels to go in a straight lin= e The idea is that it's "easier" for the two wheels to go in a straight line 40,41c40 bogey wheels are 20mm dia and 25mm apart. The rear axle is 65mm behind th= e bogey wheels are 20mm dia and 25mm apart. The rear axle is 65mm behind the 48,53c47,49 I used to work in the Artificial Intelligence department here in Edinburg= h and my boss was fascinated by these toys. They could find their way out o= f corners far better than any of the "intelligent" mobile robots. He had on= e I used to work in the Artificial Intelligence department here in Edinburgh and my boss was fascinated by these toys. They could find their way out of corners far better than any of the "intelligent" mobile robots. He had one 57,58c53 His view was that it is very difficult to get the whole machine to behave= His view was that it is very difficult to get the whole machine to behave 60,61c55 diameter of the wheels vs. their distance apart, the loading on the front= diameter of the wheels vs. their distance apart, the loading on the front 67,68d60
lugnet.robotics:19342 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 I've change my host ! It's my computer :=20 I've change my host ! It's my computer : 27d27
lugnet.robotics:19357 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 12 Chris = Lines: 11 20a20 Chris 31d30
lugnet.robotics:19362 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 30 Lines: 26 21,22c22 There is a new website for this project !! The server is available 24/24 = =2E... There is a new website for this project !! The server is available 24/24 .... 30c30 Le Lundi 28 Octobre 2002 01:37, JLB a =E9crit : Le Lundi 28 Octobre 2002 01:37, JLB a écrit : 32c32 > >I've change my host ! It's my computer :=3D20 > >I've change my host ! It's my computer :=20 34,35c34 > >Does someone can compile it under windows ? i've some trouble to do it= !! > >Does someone can compile it under windows ? i've some trouble to do it !! 41,44c40,41 > Do you need some place on a web server connected 24/24 & 7/7 ? i can ho= st > your project on my server (which hosts freelug : http://www.freelug.org= /). > Do you need some place on a web server connected 24/24 & 7/7 ? i can host > your project on my server (which hosts freelug : http://www.freelug.org/). 49d45
lugnet.robotics:19364 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 55 Steve = Lines: 47 20a20 Steve 29,32c29,30 > It seems to me that toy makers must have figured out something we don't= > know because their toy seem to work well on any surface - and they can'= t > It seems to me that toy makers must have figured out something we don't > know because their toy seem to work well on any surface - and they can't 46,47c44 Surely that will happen if the bogey likes to go straight? Which is where= Surely that will happen if the bogey likes to go straight? Which is where 51,56c48 > body of the robot move sideways when the turntable spins. = I don't have a toy like that to experiment with. Could the drive wheel be= behind the turntable (i.e. change the drive direction)? = > body of the robot move sideways when the turntable spins. 57a50,51 I don't have a toy like that to experiment with. Could the drive wheel be behind the turntable (i.e. change the drive direction)? 70,71c64 "Mystery Bump and Go Action" contains more mysteries than I had imagined.= "Mystery Bump and Go Action" contains more mysteries than I had imagined. 74d66
lugnet.robotics:19369 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 I am new to RIS, but want to catch along as soon as possible, can = you suggest which RIS version (1.0, 1.5, or 2.0) is good to start with. = I tried to find RIS 1.0 at some place but couldnt get it. I am new to RIS, but want to catch along as soon as possible, can you suggest which RIS version (1.0, 1.5, or 2.0) is good to start with. I tried to find RIS 1.0 at some place but couldnt get it. 28d28
lugnet.robotics:19375 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 25 19,28c20,25 Generall, I think they are all good. 2.0 software is somewhat improved (I= =20 haven't used the older versions, so I can't say precisely how much), and = each=20 kit includes slightly different pieces, but I think the differences are=20 fairly minor. The one important exception is that 2.0 uses USB, while 1.0= &=20 1.5 use a serial connection (and therefore requires an extra battery for = the=20 IR tower). If this is an issue, buy appropriately.=20 Generall, I think they are all good. 2.0 software is somewhat improved (I haven't used the older versions, so I can't say precisely how much), and each kit includes slightly different pieces, but I think the differences are fairly minor. The one important exception is that 2.0 uses USB, while 1.0 & 1.5 use a serial connection (and therefore requires an extra battery for the IR tower). If this is an issue, buy appropriately. 30,31c27 Basically, if you can get an excellent deal on 1.0 or 1.5, grab it. Other= wise,=20 Basically, if you can get an excellent deal on 1.0 or 1.5, grab it. Otherwise, 37,40c33,34 > I am new to RIS, but want to catch along as soon as possible, can y= ou > suggest which RIS version (1.0, 1.5, or 2.0) is good to start with. I t= ried > I am new to RIS, but want to catch along as soon as possible, can you > suggest which RIS version (1.0, 1.5, or 2.0) is good to start with. I tried 48c42 --=20 -- 51d44
lugnet.robotics:19378 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 91 Lines: 89 19,23c20,22 I think you may be right about the software differences-- like I said, I'= ve=20 only used 2.0. Still, if you can get a good deal on an older version, gra= b=20 it. Remember, you can upgrade to the 2.0 software for only $20 (search=20 I think you may be right about the software differences-- like I said, I've only used 2.0. Still, if you can get a good deal on an older version, grab it. Remember, you can upgrade to the 2.0 software for only $20 (search 107c106 --=20 -- 110d108
lugnet.robotics:19382 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 138 Lines: 108 18,19c19,20 David Schiling pointed out to me that I typed the links wrong to my = instruction pages... David Schiling pointed out to me that I typed the links wrong to my instruction pages... 27c28 From: Rob Limbaugh=20 From: Rob Limbaugh 33,34c34 One should also consider their current/future computer system = configuration. One should also consider their current/future computer system configuration. 38,41c38,39 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;en-us;Q253756 for = more details and how to determine if your version of Win95 and USB = limitations. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q253756 for more details and how to determine if your version of Win95 and USB limitations. 44,47c42,43 (which comes with a USB tower). Also be aware that the LEGO Cam in = Vision Command is USB. My suggestion would be to upgrade your operating = system. (which comes with a USB tower). Also be aware that the LEGO Cam in Vision Command is USB. My suggestion would be to upgrade your operating system. 50,57c46,49 You can buy any version of RIS and any of the expansion sets. If using = a laptop, check to see what type of ports you have available and how many = of each. Some laptops have a USB but not COM, or vice-versa. Be aware = that a PCMCIA serial card is much more expensive than a small USB hub. In the = case You can buy any version of RIS and any of the expansion sets. If using a laptop, check to see what type of ports you have available and how many of each. Some laptops have a USB but not COM, or vice-versa. Be aware that a PCMCIA serial card is much more expensive than a small USB hub. In the case 63,70c55,58 wish to use Vision Command, you'll want to have RIS 2.0 because VC will = not run without the update contained on the RIS 2.0 CD. If you buy RIS 1.0 = or 1.5, the "RIS 2.0 Upgrade" kit (with CD) is about $30 and sold = separately. LEGO does not support Vision Command on Windows 2000 or XP, so you'll = need wish to use Vision Command, you'll want to have RIS 2.0 because VC will not run without the update contained on the RIS 2.0 CD. If you buy RIS 1.0 or 1.5, the "RIS 2.0 Upgrade" kit (with CD) is about $30 and sold separately. LEGO does not support Vision Command on Windows 2000 or XP, so you'll need 76,81c64,66 The RIS software doesn't run on Mac OS, but RoboLab (around $60) does. = It is available from Pitsco (http://www.pitsco.com). I believe version = RL2.5 will support either tower, but the serial tower will require an adapter, = but The RIS software doesn't run on Mac OS, but RoboLab (around $60) does. It is available from Pitsco (http://www.pitsco.com). I believe version RL2.5 will support either tower, but the serial tower will require an adapter, but 85,90c70,72 Neither RIS nor RoboLab run on Linux/Unix. 3rd party programs can be = used instead. There is much more power under the hood if you take the = Linux/Unix approach, but you're sort of "on your own" and must rely on the support = of Neither RIS nor RoboLab run on Linux/Unix. 3rd party programs can be used instead. There is much more power under the hood if you take the Linux/Unix approach, but you're sort of "on your own" and must rely on the support of 95,96c77 If I had to do it all over again with current product availability, = prices, If I had to do it all over again with current product availability, prices, 98,99c79 Builders, and Vision Command). Next, I'd buy "Ultimate Accessory", = which Builders, and Vision Command). Next, I'd buy "Ultimate Accessory", which 101,104c81,82 debugging bots). Meanwhile, I'd keep my eyes open for a good deal on = RIS 1.0 because it has the RCX with a power adapter and a serial tower. = (I've debugging bots). Meanwhile, I'd keep my eyes open for a good deal on RIS 1.0 because it has the RCX with a power adapter and a serial tower. (I've 106,107c84 tower cost less individually than a complete RIS set on eBay, regardless = of tower cost less individually than a complete RIS set on eBay, regardless of 110,111c87 Check out the inventories http://www.peeron.com/inv to find out what is = in Check out the inventories http://www.peeron.com/inv to find out what is in 118,119c94 To: "Arja, Veerababu" <VArja@softek.fujitsu.com>; = <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> To: "Arja, Veerababu" <VArja@softek.fujitsu.com>; <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> 124,125c99 Generall, I think they are all good. 2.0 software is somewhat improved = (I Generall, I think they are all good. 2.0 software is somewhat improved (I 129,132c103,104 fairly minor. The one important exception is that 2.0 uses USB, while = 1.0 & 1.5 use a serial connection (and therefore requires an extra battery for = the fairly minor. The one important exception is that 2.0 uses USB, while 1.0 & 1.5 use a serial connection (and therefore requires an extra battery for the 142,143c114 > I am new to RIS, but want to catch along as soon as possible, can = you > I am new to RIS, but want to catch along as soon as possible, can you 156,157d126
lugnet.robotics:19390 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 29c30 http://nanobapt.homelinux.com/old/code/index.php?url=3D3Dcode http://nanobapt.homelinux.com/old/code/index.php?url=3Dcode 32,34d32
lugnet.robotics:19398 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 9 Lines: 8 21,22c22 Does anyone know what happened to WIRRL? Because as far as I know it wasn= 't=20 Does anyone know what happened to WIRRL? Because as far as I know it wasn't 28d27
lugnet.robotics:19402 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 55 Lines: 47 18,19c19 It's being auto-started in the registry, which is why you can't seem to = find it. It's being auto-started in the registry, which is why you can't seem to find it. 21,22c21,22 Be very careful in the registry... one accidental keystroke can cause = you one major headache! Be very careful in the registry... one accidental keystroke can cause you one major headache! 26,27c26,27 1) Go to "Start", then "Run", then type "regedt32" (without the quotes) = in the "Open" box. 1) Go to "Start", then "Run", then type "regedt32" (without the quotes) in the "Open" box. 29,47c29,45 2) Navigate to: HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current = Version\Run in the Registry Editor. When you click on "Run" in the left = window pane, the other pane (right side) should fill up with several = lines of information. 3) Find the entry... Off-hand, I don't know what the entry name is, but = it should be type "REG_SZ" and the file path it is executing is = "C:\Program Files\LEGO MINDSTORMS\RIS 2.0\LaunchRis2.exe". It will look = something like this: SomeNameHere:REG_SZ:C:\Program Files\LEGO MINDSTORMS\RIS = 2.0\LaunchRis2.exe 4) Click on that particular entry that has that path and "edit - = delete" (or press the Delete key). Remember, use this information at your own risk. If you aren't = comfortable with registry editing, call a friend who is well aware of = registry dos-and-don'ts! 2) Navigate to: HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run in the Registry Editor. When you click on "Run" in the left window pane, the other pane (right side) should fill up with several lines of information. 3) Find the entry... Off-hand, I don't know what the entry name is, but it should be type "REG_SZ" and the file path it is executing is "C:\Program Files\LEGO MINDSTORMS\RIS 2.0\LaunchRis2.exe". It will look something like this: SomeNameHere:REG_SZ:C:\Program Files\LEGO MINDSTORMS\RIS 2.0\LaunchRis2.exe 4) Click on that particular entry that has that path and "edit - delete" (or press the Delete key). Remember, use this information at your own risk. If you aren't comfortable with registry editing, call a friend who is well aware of registry dos-and-don'ts! 58,67c56,60 I successfully installed RIS 2.0 on a Windows XP system. However, = whenever I restart XP the RIS2.0 software wants to startup. There is an option in = Win98 (startup directory) to switcdh this auto start off. I looked for this in = XP and Can not find it. Can someone explain this (otherwise I have to = uninstall it from my girlfriends computer since she doesn't like this autostart of = my I successfully installed RIS 2.0 on a Windows XP system. However, whenever I restart XP the RIS2.0 software wants to startup. There is an option in Win98 (startup directory) to switcdh this auto start off. I looked for this in XP and Can not find it. Can someone explain this (otherwise I have to uninstall it from my girlfriends computer since she doesn't like this autostart of my 73d65
lugnet.robotics:19414 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 36 Lines: 35 39,40c40 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 56,57c56 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
lugnet.robotics:19481 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 11 Lines: 10 23,26c24,26 Just a bunch of pictures right now, but better than nothing. The whole = endeavor was spawned from the insane idea of using a DV camcorder to = take the pictures because I can't seem to hold still with a digital = camera... Just a bunch of pictures right now, but better than nothing. The whole endeavor was spawned from the insane idea of using a DV camcorder to take the pictures because I can't seem to hold still with a digital camera... 29d28
lugnet.robotics:19501 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 65 Lines: 62 18c19 > I think you've hit the nail on the head here Eric. To me, the=20 > I think you've hit the nail on the head here Eric. To me, the 20c21 > way of looking at a robot arm would be from the point of view=20 > way of looking at a robot arm would be from the point of view 22c23 > effector, i.e. what it can and cannot do. The way the arm=20 > effector, i.e. what it can and cannot do. The way the arm 26,29c27,30 That, to me (and according to all definitions I've seen) is "range of = motion". However, without DOF's, an effector couldn't be positioned. =20 > Stating n DOF (for large n) seems to be somehow cheating,=20 That, to me (and according to all definitions I've seen) is "range of motion". However, without DOF's, an effector couldn't be positioned. > Stating n DOF (for large n) seems to be somehow cheating, 31c32 > bit like 6 head video recorders! You could have a robot arm=20 > bit like 6 head video recorders! You could have a robot arm 33c34 > effector only has 4 DOF, yet according to some measures the=20 > effector only has 4 DOF, yet according to some measures the 35c36 > more DOF. To state it is a 6 DOF machine seems misleading, so=20 > more DOF. To state it is a 6 DOF machine seems misleading, so 39,80c40,78 The more DOF's, the better the overall control and positioning *could* = be. In the case of the video recorders, you can tell the differences = quite easily in 2, 4 and 6 head systems by pausing videos; or displaying = the video during frame-advance, fast-forward, or rewind; or recording = something on a tape in LP or SLP mode. I've seen 2-head VCR's that had = better video than cheap 4-head VCRs, but that is due to overall = implementation of the system. Mechanically, the contrast could be made by putting your leg in a cast. = You can still function and move around within your fully extended ranges = of motion, but doing things requiring better control will be harder... = specifically, going up and down a staircase... knee and ankle = flexibility is greatly missed! In this example, your maximum extended = ROM hasn't changed, but your degree of resolution to move your foot = within that range has been greatly reduced. So, in my opinion, they should list maximum/minimum range of effector = motion and maximum/minimum ranges of the control arms an effector is = attached to (clearance?) along with the number of "joints" (linear or = otherwise) in the system. > How many DOF does a normal tracked vehicle have? What about a Killough = platform? I would think in both cases that the platform (as a whole) has 1DOF = (z-axis). On the tracked vehicle, each drive sprocket has 1DOF that = encompasses 360 degrees. For the Killough, each of the three wheel-sets = has 3DOF (acts like a ball), each for 360 degrees. However, in both = cases, assuming no obstacles, the range of motion for the platforms is = essentially infinite in a plane except for the space the platform itself = occupies. Building on that idea, a bipedal walker would have a similar overall = total range of motion for the platform, but how well it can be = positioned within that plane will be determined by how well it can step = within it's own total footprint. In which case, it may have more total = joints (more DOF's), but be harder to position and control (such as = pointing the bot in specific directions) at any given time. Just like the number of heads in a VCR, having all those DOF's doesn't = necessarily mean you've gained anything useful to accomplish the task = the system is designed for. The more DOF's, the better the overall control and positioning *could* be. In the case of the video recorders, you can tell the differences quite easily in 2, 4 and 6 head systems by pausing videos; or displaying the video during frame-advance, fast-forward, or rewind; or recording something on a tape in LP or SLP mode. I've seen 2-head VCR's that had better video than cheap 4-head VCRs, but that is due to overall implementation of the system. Mechanically, the contrast could be made by putting your leg in a cast. You can still function and move around within your fully extended ranges of motion, but doing things requiring better control will be harder... specifically, going up and down a staircase... knee and ankle flexibility is greatly missed! In this example, your maximum extended ROM hasn't changed, but your degree of resolution to move your foot within that range has been greatly reduced. So, in my opinion, they should list maximum/minimum range of effector motion and maximum/minimum ranges of the control arms an effector is attached to (clearance?) along with the number of "joints" (linear or otherwise) in the system. > How many DOF does a normal tracked vehicle have? What about a Killough > platform? I would think in both cases that the platform (as a whole) has 1DOF (z-axis). On the tracked vehicle, each drive sprocket has 1DOF that encompasses 360 degrees. For the Killough, each of the three wheel-sets has 3DOF (acts like a ball), each for 360 degrees. However, in both cases, assuming no obstacles, the range of motion for the platforms is essentially infinite in a plane except for the space the platform itself occupies. Building on that idea, a bipedal walker would have a similar overall total range of motion for the platform, but how well it can be positioned within that plane will be determined by how well it can step within it's own total footprint. In which case, it may have more total joints (more DOF's), but be harder to position and control (such as pointing the bot in specific directions) at any given time. Just like the number of heads in a VCR, having all those DOF's doesn't necessarily mean you've gained anything useful to accomplish the task the system is designed for. 83,89d80
lugnet.robotics:19547 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 34 Lines: 33 18c19 > >> But then it would be easy to print out the mat on a=20 > >> But then it would be easy to print out the mat on a 20c21 > >> durable) and cover the bottom of the table. What size are=20 > >> durable) and cover the bottom of the table. What size are 23c24 > >Most people don't have access to plotters. The most likely=20 > >Most people don't have access to plotters. The most likely 27,28c28,29 >=20 > As Brass said, Kinkos can do 3' by X Or, I'm sure it would=20 > > As Brass said, Kinkos can do 3' by X Or, I'm sure it would 31,51c32 >=20 Inkjet plotters are should be pretty common in mechanical enginnering = firms these days. Colleges may also have them. The billboard and sign industry uses huge paint plotters, but those are = much more expensive to run than inkjet plotters because they use special = paint rather than "ink". Size and layout would probably be a non-issue = since those things can use a bus or building wall as a painting surface. = Sign shops can also make printed adhesive vinyl sheets, perhaps shaded = 90-degree turn squares and straight-away squares, just stick them down = to a board as needed. At least that way you could order 3 different = patterns in whatever qty's of each needed and have more than one track = layout. =20 Perhaps those types of places would do it cheaply if it's for an = educational or public community event. If the gradual shading doesn't have to be perfectly even through the = whole run of a track, someone that is good with airbrushing/spray = painting (auto detailer, perhaps) might be able to make the track. > 52a34,35 Inkjet plotters are should be pretty common in mechanical enginnering firms these days. Colleges may also have them. 53a37,51 The billboard and sign industry uses huge paint plotters, but those are much more expensive to run than inkjet plotters because they use special paint rather than "ink". Size and layout would probably be a non-issue since those things can use a bus or building wall as a painting surface. Sign shops can also make printed adhesive vinyl sheets, perhaps shaded 90-degree turn squares and straight-away squares, just stick them down to a board as needed. At least that way you could order 3 different patterns in whatever qty's of each needed and have more than one track layout. Perhaps those types of places would do it cheaply if it's for an educational or public community event. If the gradual shading doesn't have to be perfectly even through the whole run of a track, someone that is good with airbrushing/spray painting (auto detailer, perhaps) might be able to make the track.
lugnet.robotics:19561 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 28 Lines: 22 20,26c21,24 "=D8yvind Steinnes" wrote: > = > Does anybody know if there are some electrical controlled pneumatic val= ves > (magnetic valves) aviable for Lego that can be controlled trough a RCX = unit "Øyvind Steinnes" wrote: > > Does anybody know if there are some electrical controlled pneumatic valves > (magnetic valves) aviable for Lego that can be controlled trough a RCX unit 28,29c26 > = > 36,37c33 > = > 41,42c37 -- = -- 47c42 =2E.. where air is power! ... where air is power!
lugnet.robotics:19569 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 10 Lines: 9 24,25c25 Also, do any of the Lego cameras do online vision processing? What kind? = Or Also, do any of the Lego cameras do online vision processing? What kind? Or 29d28
lugnet.robotics:19577 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 19 Lines: 15 20,23c21,22 jigsaw puzzle. Each sheet is a "Straight" or a "chicane" or a "90deg left= " or whatever. Before a race, the only thing the competitors know is that t= he jigsaw puzzle. Each sheet is a "Straight" or a "chicane" or a "90deg left" or whatever. Before a race, the only thing the competitors know is that the 27,28c26 better. The pattern should be crosshatched rather than grey-scale so it's= better. The pattern should be crosshatched rather than grey-scale so it's 33,34c31 bend? How about a Manhattan grid of streets with a barcode at the approac= h bend? How about a Manhattan grid of streets with a barcode at the approach 38d34
lugnet.robotics:19580 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,36c22,37 Printing the layout on paper would be expensive for a home user that = does not refill their own cartridges. Paper won't stay down unless = taped, and it could be torn easily with a brick corner during a crash. But... paint non-adhesive white linoleum tiles a different color (or = shade) for their function. Tiles and paint are cheap and universally = available. They are pretty easy to line up against each other, too. Incidentally, this won't solve collision problems. A forward facing = light sensor won't solve side collisions or wheel touching. Besides, = collisions are a good thing... it makes a builder have to trade weight = for structural integrity and ads an element of excitement to any race. Perhaps the Spybot bricks would be more suitable to racing if the = multitude of IR sensors in them can be used to detect light levels. = Someone mentioned before that their spybot follows a line... Printing the layout on paper would be expensive for a home user that does not refill their own cartridges. Paper won't stay down unless taped, and it could be torn easily with a brick corner during a crash. But... paint non-adhesive white linoleum tiles a different color (or shade) for their function. Tiles and paint are cheap and universally available. They are pretty easy to line up against each other, too. Incidentally, this won't solve collision problems. A forward facing light sensor won't solve side collisions or wheel touching. Besides, collisions are a good thing... it makes a builder have to trade weight for structural integrity and ads an element of excitement to any race. Perhaps the Spybot bricks would be more suitable to racing if the multitude of IR sensors in them can be used to detect light levels. Someone mentioned before that their spybot follows a line... 39d39
lugnet.robotics:19598 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 Is there a very accurate (max. +/-2=B0) compass sensor that can be used Is there a very accurate (max. +/-2°) compass sensor that can be used 29,30d29
lugnet.robotics:19601 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 18 Lines: 14 21,24c22,23 > = > Is there a very accurate (max. +/-2=B0) compass sensor that can be used= > > Is there a very accurate (max. +/-2°) compass sensor that can be used 26,27c25 > = > 31,32c29 -- = -- 37c34 =2E.. where air is power! ... where air is power!
lugnet.robotics:19602 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26c27 >Is there a very accurate (max. +/-2=B0) compass sensor that can be used >Is there a very accurate (max. +/-2°) compass sensor that can be used 29,31c30,32 I don't know about the two degrees, but Hitechnic has a nice digital=20 compass. 100 levels will give 3.6 degrees per count, assuming a perfect=20 world - no nearby magnetic sources (motors being a good one) and no=20 I don't know about the two degrees, but Hitechnic has a nice digital compass. 100 levels will give 3.6 degrees per count, assuming a perfect world - no nearby magnetic sources (motors being a good one) and no 41,43d41
lugnet.robotics:19604 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 the 2=B0 come from here http://robinsnest.de/marcie/marcie_e.html the 2° come from here http://robinsnest.de/marcie/marcie_e.html 38c39 > >Is there a very accurate (max. +/-2=B0) compass sensor that can be used > >Is there a very accurate (max. +/-2°) compass sensor that can be used 40,43c41,44 >=20 > I don't know about the two degrees, but Hitechnic has a nice digital=20 > compass. 100 levels will give 3.6 degrees per count, assuming a perfect=20 > world - no nearby magnetic sources (motors being a good one) and no=20 > > I don't know about the two degrees, but Hitechnic has a nice digital > compass. 100 levels will give 3.6 degrees per count, assuming a perfect > world - no nearby magnetic sources (motors being a good one) and no 45c46 >=20 > 47,49c48,50 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > 53,57c54,55 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics:19612 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 49 Lines: 47 18c19 > This track should be able to work with a single light sensor.=20 > This track should be able to work with a single light sensor. 20c21 > concerns is if the light sensor will be able to identify the=20 > concerns is if the light sensor will be able to identify the 24c25 How about blocking the illumination LED and using the LEGO LAMP for = How about blocking the illumination LED and using the LEGO LAMP for 26,27c27,28 =20 > The start/finish line will use a black line or a overhang=20 > The start/finish line will use a black line or a overhang 29c30 > linked to a touch sensor could hit ( as suggested by a prev.=20 > linked to a touch sensor could hit ( as suggested by a prev. 33,34c34,35 This eliminates one more color/pattern for the RCX to look for, probably = a good thing. How would this relate to determining winner of a race? This eliminates one more color/pattern for the RCX to look for, probably a good thing. How would this relate to determining winner of a race? 36c37 > accordingly. A signal from a RCX or the IR port will signal=20 > accordingly. A signal from a RCX or the IR port will signal 43,44c44,45 =20 > Another poster made a good suggesstion about accident=20 > Another poster made a good suggesstion about accident 47c48 >=20 > 49,64c50,63 In order to use one light sensor to monitor the track and tail-lights, = both the track and tail-lights of other bots must be in the same field = of vision. The only way I can think of to perhaps accomplish this is to = have the light sensor far enough above the track that tail-lights from = another bot can shine down at the track. Would that be possible = solution? If it is, lights could be shining all around a bot to create = a halo effect... And still, that doesn't address two bots side by side and one = experiences drift due to different motor speeds. But, combining the = White-Gray-Black track approach, only make that per lane... that might = solve the problem, or at least help to minimize it. If the Gray was one = of 3 "lane" shades, then a bot could tell which lane it is in (or = supposed to be in) and use that as an advantage in the turns. During a = turn, it could "take a chance" at cutting into other lanes, but be = penalized if it causes an accident. In order to use one light sensor to monitor the track and tail-lights, both the track and tail-lights of other bots must be in the same field of vision. The only way I can think of to perhaps accomplish this is to have the light sensor far enough above the track that tail-lights from another bot can shine down at the track. Would that be possible solution? If it is, lights could be shining all around a bot to create a halo effect... And still, that doesn't address two bots side by side and one experiences drift due to different motor speeds. But, combining the White-Gray-Black track approach, only make that per lane... that might solve the problem, or at least help to minimize it. If the Gray was one of 3 "lane" shades, then a bot could tell which lane it is in (or supposed to be in) and use that as an advantage in the turns. During a turn, it could "take a chance" at cutting into other lanes, but be penalized if it causes an accident. 67d65
lugnet.robotics:19644 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 53 Lines: 42 20,28c21,25 > = > I think that developing a good working solution that drives the robot b= oth > fast and precisely over the track, and still uses only 1 light sensor w= ould > be the ideal solution. I=B4m still challenged on that. > = > > I think that developing a good working solution that drives the robot both > fast and precisely over the track, and still uses only 1 light sensor would > be the ideal solution. I´m still challenged on that. > 32,33c29,30 > Using only one light sensor would open the solution to virtually all RI= S owners. > Using only one light sensor would open the solution to virtually all RIS > owners. 39,42c36,37 > Obviously there are situations that would be impossible (or at least ve= ry > difficult) to deal with, like the 90+ degree bends. But it=B4s somethin= g we > Obviously there are situations that would be impossible (or at least very > difficult) to deal with, like the 90+ degree bends. But it´s something we 44,45c39 > = > 53,56c47,48 = > >Btw, modifying the track, to me, amounts to cheating. A line is a line= , > >Btw, modifying the track, to me, amounts to cheating. A line is a line, 58,59c50 > = > 65,66c56 -- = -- 71c61 =2E.. where air is power! ... where air is power!
lugnet.robotics:19663 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 14 Lines: 13 23,24c24 a 3V ducted fan of the sort used to cool your face = a 3V ducted fan of the sort used to cool your face 33d32
lugnet.robotics:19681 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 18 Lines: 13 19,24c20,22 > I am currently working on an RCX Tank Base Two that is bigger with bett= er > suspension, easier-turning different style of slip clutch, and some sor= t > of cool Robot Warriors style of weapon like a chopping axe (which I hav= e > I am currently working on an RCX Tank Base Two that is bigger with better > suspension, easier-turning different style of slip clutch, and some sort > of cool Robot Warriors style of weapon like a chopping axe (which I have 28,29c26 You can store a lot of energy that way. My finger still hurts from where = I You can store a lot of energy that way. My finger still hurts from where I 32,33c29 With an axe it's difficult to deliver energy fast enough. Maybe there wou= ld With an axe it's difficult to deliver energy fast enough. Maybe there would 37,39d32
lugnet.robotics:19683 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 54 Lines: 52 18,21c19,21 Brushless DC motors, such as those used in PC cooling fans, won't = generate enough power, even if the voltage is increased. This is = because they actually have a switching circuit that changes polarity of = the electromagnetic coils. Brushless DC motors, such as those used in PC cooling fans, won't generate enough power, even if the voltage is increased. This is because they actually have a switching circuit that changes polarity of the electromagnetic coils. 23,25c23,24 I've gotten a small (less than 1 square foot) piece of foam board to = hover using an older 12v fan with brushes and two 9v batteries in = series. I've gotten a small (less than 1 square foot) piece of foam board to hover using an older 12v fan with brushes and two 9v batteries in series. 27,28c26,27 Doesn't the thrust fan also have to overcome air leaking around the edge = of the fan blades and the thrust fan shroud? Doesn't the thrust fan also have to overcome air leaking around the edge of the fan blades and the thrust fan shroud? 37,38c36,37 >=20 >=20 > > 41c40 > >=20 > > 44c43 > > a 3V ducted fan of the sort used to cool your face=20 > > a 3V ducted fan of the sort used to cool your face 46c45 > >=20 > > 48,49c47,48 > >=20 > > None could really lift their own weight - although the=20 > > > > None could really lift their own weight - although the 52,53c51,52 >=20 > I think you need a MUCH bigger area under the craft. If all the=20 > > I think you need a MUCH bigger area under the craft. If all the 56c55 >=20 > 58c57 >=20 > 60c59 >=20 > 70,72c69,70 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics:19694 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 35 Lines: 34 20,31c21,31 Before installing any of the LEGO software on XP (or 2000, for that = matter) I highly suggest downloading the latest versions of Quicktime, = DirectX, and RealPlayer. The versions on the LEGO software were never = intended for XP or 2000 and may cause problems on some systems. For RIS1.0, acknowledge the 256 color error and proceed with = installation. When it is finished, right-hand-click the "Robotics = Invention System" icon and choose "properties". Select the = "Compatibility" tab and check "Run this program in compatibility mode = for... Windows 98/Windows Me" and check "Run in 256 colors". Click OK. = The installation leaves the "LEGO MINSTORMS(tm)" application open after = install is completed. Hit CTRL-ALT-DEL and end that task or restart the = Before installing any of the LEGO software on XP (or 2000, for that matter) I highly suggest downloading the latest versions of Quicktime, DirectX, and RealPlayer. The versions on the LEGO software were never intended for XP or 2000 and may cause problems on some systems. For RIS1.0, acknowledge the 256 color error and proceed with installation. When it is finished, right-hand-click the "Robotics Invention System" icon and choose "properties". Select the "Compatibility" tab and check "Run this program in compatibility mode for... Windows 98/Windows Me" and check "Run in 256 colors". Click OK. The installation leaves the "LEGO MINSTORMS(tm)" application open after install is completed. Hit CTRL-ALT-DEL and end that task or restart the 34,37c34,37 For RIS1.5, install the software. After installation, edit the shortcut = properties for the "Robotics Invention System" icon. On the "Shortcut" = tab, the "Start In" directory should say "C:\Program Files\LEGO = MINDSTORMS" (not "C:\Program Files\LEGO MINDSTORMS\Probe.exe"). For RIS1.5, install the software. After installation, edit the shortcut properties for the "Robotics Invention System" icon. On the "Shortcut" tab, the "Start In" directory should say "C:\Program Files\LEGO MINDSTORMS" (not "C:\Program Files\LEGO MINDSTORMS\Probe.exe"). 46,48c46,48 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > 50c50 >=20 > 52,53c52 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:19717 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 > Without the 1x4 plates there is too little friction - the=20 > Without the 1x4 plates there is too little friction - the 22c23 > climb over anything without them! Plus the 1x4 plates raise=20 > climb over anything without them! Plus the 1x4 plates raise 24c25 > little, make the tracks wider, and gives the base a much=20 > little, make the tracks wider, and gives the base a much 27c28 > regularly. I'm thinking about using some=20 > regularly. I'm thinking about using some 29c30 > keep them on the new version. I have no idea what to use,=20 > keep them on the new version. I have no idea what to use, 31c32 >=20 > 33,44c34,45 I haven't tried any adhesives on my tracks yet, but I was thinking of = trying hot-glue if it doesn't melt the LEGO's or some tub caulk. School = glue and/or wood glue (leaning more towards wood glue) may have enough = strength to hold and it dissolves in water. If those options would have proved futile, then my last ditch thought = was going to be to sacrifice a few plates and treads ahead of time and = permanently affix them to one another. Now that I'm thinking about it... another option (as tedious as it may = sound) might be to take some thread (sewing, embroidery, or = cross-stitch) and tie the plates to the tread links. I haven't tried any adhesives on my tracks yet, but I was thinking of trying hot-glue if it doesn't melt the LEGO's or some tub caulk. School glue and/or wood glue (leaning more towards wood glue) may have enough strength to hold and it dissolves in water. If those options would have proved futile, then my last ditch thought was going to be to sacrifice a few plates and treads ahead of time and permanently affix them to one another. Now that I'm thinking about it... another option (as tedious as it may sound) might be to take some thread (sewing, embroidery, or cross-stitch) and tie the plates to the tread links. 47d47
lugnet.robotics:19722 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,38c21,39 According to what I've read, Robolab 1.5 will work with the USB tower on = a Mac. This leads me to believe that the Robolab CD comes with USB = drivers for the tower. Emulators (as I understand them) work by mapping working resources to an = emulated port of similar function. The Apple serial ports have the same = fundamental purpose and behavior as "IBM" serial ports and in both cases = their function has little to do with what is attached. However, in the = case of USB or devices on a shared bus, the host OS must control = communication to it, so there is an emulated layer between the two. A logical assumption is that if the USB tower drivers were installed = from a Robolab 1.5 CD, then that device might appear as an available USB = device for Virtual PC to use. Then, RIS 2.0 may work with the USB tower = within Virtual PC on a Mac. I have a Mac, Robolab 1.5, and a USB IR tower. Unfortunately I don't = have Virtual PC, so I cannot test the idea. Perhaps someone else can in = the meantime. According to what I've read, Robolab 1.5 will work with the USB tower on a Mac. This leads me to believe that the Robolab CD comes with USB drivers for the tower. Emulators (as I understand them) work by mapping working resources to an emulated port of similar function. The Apple serial ports have the same fundamental purpose and behavior as "IBM" serial ports and in both cases their function has little to do with what is attached. However, in the case of USB or devices on a shared bus, the host OS must control communication to it, so there is an emulated layer between the two. A logical assumption is that if the USB tower drivers were installed from a Robolab 1.5 CD, then that device might appear as an available USB device for Virtual PC to use. Then, RIS 2.0 may work with the USB tower within Virtual PC on a Mac. I have a Mac, Robolab 1.5, and a USB IR tower. Unfortunately I don't have Virtual PC, so I cannot test the idea. Perhaps someone else can in the meantime. 40c41 - Rob=20 - Rob 47,51c48,52 >=20 >=20 > I have a student who is trying to use RIS 2.0 with Virtual PC on a=20 > Macintosh. LEGO says the drivers should be on the CDROM; the=20 > guy that=20 > > > I have a student who is trying to use RIS 2.0 with Virtual PC on a > Macintosh. LEGO says the drivers should be on the CDROM; the > guy that 53,57c54,58 >=20 > Can they run RIS 2.0 on a Mac? Can they use the USB tower on a Mac=20 > (the error they are getting is that the USB tower does not have the=20 > drivers installed to run it and it isn't recognizing the=20 > device -- says=20 > > Can they run RIS 2.0 on a Mac? Can they use the USB tower on a Mac > (the error they are getting is that the USB tower does not have the > drivers installed to run it and it isn't recognizing the > device -- says 59,63c60,64 >=20 > I have a copy of ROBOLAB that I am lending them to use with the=20 > Mindstorms as we don't use it in class. However, they really=20 > want to be=20 > running RIS 2.0 to match what we are doing in class and on our FLL=20 > > I have a copy of ROBOLAB that I am lending them to use with the > Mindstorms as we don't use it in class. However, they really > want to be > running RIS 2.0 to match what we are doing in class and on our FLL 65c66 >=20 > 67c68 >=20 > 69c70 >=20 > 74,76c75,76 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics:19723 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 > >Are non-Lego treads are out of the question? I've had lots=20 > >Are non-Lego treads are out of the question? I've had lots 25c26 >=20 > 27c28 >=20 > 30,32c31,33 I realized a few minutes after making my post that there is LEGO string. = It is of suitable size. And, based on creations I've seen from the = AFOLs, it's definitely strong enough. I realized a few minutes after making my post that there is LEGO string. It is of suitable size. And, based on creations I've seen from the AFOLs, it's definitely strong enough. 35d35
lugnet.robotics:19728 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 92 Lines: 72 20,34c21,35 I'm working on updating the instruction pages for Vision Command = installation on XP and 2K. What I would like to include is a small FAQ = and list any issues people may have encountered. A couple weeks ago, I did a fresh install of 2K and XP on a computer so = I could go step-by-step through all the instructions again (the intent = was to get better screen images) and discovered a few errors. Those = errors primarily exist in the 2K procedures. The errors are the result of using my own computer as the original "2K = machine" that the instructions were created from. Other software was = installed and repeated attempts at finding the right combination of = things to force VC to install caused some of my steps/assumptions to be = wrong. The XP instructions are more accurate because deliberately used = a different computer with a fresh install of XP. I'm working on updating the instruction pages for Vision Command installation on XP and 2K. What I would like to include is a small FAQ and list any issues people may have encountered. A couple weeks ago, I did a fresh install of 2K and XP on a computer so I could go step-by-step through all the instructions again (the intent was to get better screen images) and discovered a few errors. Those errors primarily exist in the 2K procedures. The errors are the result of using my own computer as the original "2K machine" that the instructions were created from. Other software was installed and repeated attempts at finding the right combination of things to force VC to install caused some of my steps/assumptions to be wrong. The XP instructions are more accurate because deliberately used a different computer with a fresh install of XP. 36c37 The errors in the 2K procedures = The errors in the 2K procedures 39c40 1) RIS 2.0 (Original or Upgrade) is required to use Vision Command on = 1) RIS 2.0 (Original or Upgrade) is required to use Vision Command on 41c42 2) WinZIP is not required. Windows 2000 has the built-in ability to = 2) WinZIP is not required. Windows 2000 has the built-in ability to 43c44 3) In order to see the first "ATL.DLL" error (step 25), hit "ALT-TAB" = 3) In order to see the first "ATL.DLL" error (step 25), hit "ALT-TAB" 46c47 5) If QuickTime needs to install, an "ATL.DLL" error will show up, = 5) If QuickTime needs to install, an "ATL.DLL" error will show up, 48c49 6) Step 32 can be removed... a second KERNEL.DLL error doesn't show up = 6) Step 32 can be removed... a second KERNEL.DLL error doesn't show up 50c51 7) From step 36 to the end... VC Update should run automatically and = 7) From step 36 to the end... VC Update should run automatically and 54,57c55,58 Regarding #8--That error was made because I decided to see if I could = get RIS 1.0 and 1.5 to work after finding the solution for RIS2.0. = Instead of using a clean machine for each install try, I = removed/reinstalled on the same machine, causing my oversight. Regarding #8--That error was made because I decided to see if I could get RIS 1.0 and 1.5 to work after finding the solution for RIS2.0. Instead of using a clean machine for each install try, I removed/reinstalled on the same machine, causing my oversight. 59,60c60 Errors in XP procedures = (http://www.abs-robotics.com/tips/install/winxp/vc.htm): Errors in XP procedures (http://www.abs-robotics.com/tips/install/winxp/vc.htm): 68,72c68 A: Yes. The full answer is technical. Basically, the VC Updater = (distributed with RIS 2.0) replaces several files for VC, including core = components. The original components refuse to run under XP or 2000. I = believe the updated files only work on 2000 and XP due to sheer dumb = luck. A: Yes. The full answer is technical. Basically, the VC Updater (distributed with RIS 2.0) replaces several files for VC, including core components. The original components refuse to run under XP or 2000. I believe the updated files only work on 2000 and XP due to sheer dumb luck. 78,85c74 A: The VC installer was compiled and released prior to consumer = availability of 2000 and XP. All that is necessary is for a new = installer program to be released that works under 2000 and XP and can = open the proprietary installation .CAB files, drop the DirectX install = (both 2000 and XP come with a newer version of DirectX), have QuickTime = for 2000 (not necessary for XP), and update the appropriate executables = for VC with the code that runs under 2000 and XP (which would mean all = the RIS's could use VC on 2000 or XP). A: The VC installer was compiled and released prior to consumer availability of 2000 and XP. All that is necessary is for a new installer program to be released that works under 2000 and XP and can open the proprietary installation .CAB files, drop the DirectX install (both 2000 and XP come with a newer version of DirectX), have QuickTime for 2000 (not necessary for XP), and update the appropriate executables for VC with the code that runs under 2000 and XP (which would mean all the RIS's could use VC on 2000 or XP). 88,93c77 A: Yes, but that solution only works if you are "moving" the files to a = computer that had an in-place upgrade of Windows from 9x/Me to XP. = Computers sold in stores now have a "clean" install of XP, not an = "upgrade". Additionally, not everyone has access to two computers, let = alone one that has Win9x/Me. I wanted to fill that gap, so I had to = look for a more universal solution. A: Yes, but that solution only works if you are "moving" the files to a computer that had an in-place upgrade of Windows from 9x/Me to XP. Computers sold in stores now have a "clean" install of XP, not an "upgrade". Additionally, not everyone has access to two computers, let alone one that has Win9x/Me. I wanted to fill that gap, so I had to look for a more universal solution. 96,99c80 A: Yes. It consistently failed when trying to apply it to a fresh and = clean full Windows XP installation. That's what motivated me to find a = new method. But, the old method did work when I installed XP as an = Upgrade to Win98 Second Edition. A: Yes. It consistently failed when trying to apply it to a fresh and clean full Windows XP installation. That's what motivated me to find a new method. But, the old method did work when I installed XP as an Upgrade to Win98 Second Edition. 104,105c85,86 If anyone has noticed anything I've missed, or has something to add, = please email me so I may include/reference it in the update. If anyone has noticed anything I've missed, or has something to add, please email me so I may include/reference it in the update. 110,115d90
lugnet.robotics:19733 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 42 Lines: 40 20,21c21,22 >=20 > I suppose tying individual plates to the tracks would work=20 > > I suppose tying individual plates to the tracks would work 23c24 > tens or hundreds of tight knots and keeping them small enough=20 > tens or hundreds of tight knots and keeping them small enough 26c27 >=20 > 28,30c29,31 What I meant with the thread was to use the studs as channels for the = thread and tie them perpendicular to the shape of the conveyor piece, = one thread on each side. What I meant with the thread was to use the studs as channels for the thread and tie them perpendicular to the shape of the conveyor piece, one thread on each side. 32,33c33 [o|o#o|o] <--track piece, chain side, | =3D string, o =3D holes in = conveyor link [o|o#o|o] <--track piece, chain side, | = string, o = holes in conveyor link 35,36c35,36 [o&o o&o] <--track piece, conveyor side, & =3D knot in string, o =3D = studs on 1x4 plate [o&o o&o] <--track piece, conveyor side, & = knot in string, o = studs on 1x4 plate 38,39c38,39 I wouldn't do all the links if I didn't have to... Perhaps every 5th = link and then offset if using a multi-track setup, like this: I wouldn't do all the links if I didn't have to... Perhaps every 5th link and then offset if using a multi-track setup, like this: 51c51 ... or with 1x8's across multiple tracks... whatever suits the need, I'd = ... or with 1x8's across multiple tracks... whatever suits the need, I'd 54,57c54,56 Personally, I'll probably just buy a bunch of conveyor links and = permanantly glue 1x4 studded plates to the links and use them when I = need to and call it a day. I might even make some using 1x4 flat plates = using glue. Personally, I'll probably just buy a bunch of conveyor links and permanantly glue 1x4 studded plates to the links and use them when I need to and call it a day. I might even make some using 1x4 flat plates using glue. 60d58
lugnet.robotics:19762 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 37 Roy = Lines: 29 20a20 Roy 24,27c24,25 My decision was that I'd make something like a Roman ballista. I'd wind u= p a string on a winch to cock the hammer then unwind the string all the way= My decision was that I'd make something like a Roman ballista. I'd wind up a string on a winch to cock the hammer then unwind the string all the way 29,32c27,28 the winding motor when the the winding motor was fully unwound. My idea w= as that the string would be so loose that it wouldn't offer any resistance -= the winding motor when the the winding motor was fully unwound. My idea was that the string would be so loose that it wouldn't offer any resistance - 37,38c33 Imagine the lid of, say, a peanut butter jar. The lid slowly turns and th= e Imagine the lid of, say, a peanut butter jar. The lid slowly turns and the 40,43c35,36 complete turn comes around, a "tooth" on the rim of the peanut butter jar= lid nudges the string sideways so it falls off the edge of the lid and is= complete turn comes around, a "tooth" on the rim of the peanut butter jar lid nudges the string sideways so it falls off the edge of the lid and is 56d48
lugnet.robotics:19783 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 73 Lines: 69 18,59c19,56 The major differences between RIS 1.5 and 2.0 are the RIS software and = the IR Tower. The software upgrade from RIS 1.5 to 2.0 is $19.99 = (#3805) from LEGO's website. A USB IR Tower can be purchased from = pldstore.com (W979783) for $29.00. There was no mention of your current computer hardware, operating = system, or any future plans with respect to other LEGO products or = computer upgrades. So, keep in mind the following factors as they = pertain to you - 1) USB is unavailable on older versions of Windows 95. If this is your = situation, you'll need a new OS. Check here for more information:=20 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;en-us;253756 2) RIS 2.0 installs "out of the box" on Windows 95/98/Me/XP/2000 (minus = the registry entry that auto-starts the RIS menu every time the computer = starts). RIS 1.0 and 1.5 need to be slightly adjusted to work properly = on XP. I don't recall having any problems installing RIS 1.0 or 1.5 on = Windows 2000. 3) If you plan to purchase Vision Command and run it on a Windows 2000 = or XP system, then you'll need the RIS 2.0 software. 4) Number of open USB and serial ports. The camera for Vision Command = has a USB connection. Spybotics uses a serial cable. It's rather = annoying to buy something and find out you don't have enough serial = ports or need to buy a USB hub. 5) RIS doesn't work natively on a Mac. RoboLab 2.5 (W900054, = pldstore.com, $59.00) supports the USB hardware. (NOTE: There is a = Windows emulator for the Mac, but I believe there are issues with RIS = 2.0 working within the emulator when using a USB tower, but the serial = tower supposedly works just fine. The emulator alone costs as much or = more than a suitable Windows PC.) In my case, I need both IR towers and RIS 2.0 software to run Vision = Command on 2000. The USB tower is always connected to my desktop and I = use a serial IR tower with my laptop (which has one USB port and one = serial port). My purchase would be based on what the cheapest outcome = for everything I needed was: Cost of RIS 1.5 + Upgrade + USB + S&H = verses RIS 2.0 + Serial + S&H. The major differences between RIS 1.5 and 2.0 are the RIS software and the IR Tower. The software upgrade from RIS 1.5 to 2.0 is $19.99 (#3805) from LEGO's website. A USB IR Tower can be purchased from pldstore.com (W979783) for $29.00. There was no mention of your current computer hardware, operating system, or any future plans with respect to other LEGO products or computer upgrades. So, keep in mind the following factors as they pertain to you - 1) USB is unavailable on older versions of Windows 95. If this is your situation, you'll need a new OS. Check here for more information: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;253756 2) RIS 2.0 installs "out of the box" on Windows 95/98/Me/XP/2000 (minus the registry entry that auto-starts the RIS menu every time the computer starts). RIS 1.0 and 1.5 need to be slightly adjusted to work properly on XP. I don't recall having any problems installing RIS 1.0 or 1.5 on Windows 2000. 3) If you plan to purchase Vision Command and run it on a Windows 2000 or XP system, then you'll need the RIS 2.0 software. 4) Number of open USB and serial ports. The camera for Vision Command has a USB connection. Spybotics uses a serial cable. It's rather annoying to buy something and find out you don't have enough serial ports or need to buy a USB hub. 5) RIS doesn't work natively on a Mac. RoboLab 2.5 (W900054, pldstore.com, $59.00) supports the USB hardware. (NOTE: There is a Windows emulator for the Mac, but I believe there are issues with RIS 2.0 working within the emulator when using a USB tower, but the serial tower supposedly works just fine. The emulator alone costs as much or more than a suitable Windows PC.) In my case, I need both IR towers and RIS 2.0 software to run Vision Command on 2000. The USB tower is always connected to my desktop and I use a serial IR tower with my laptop (which has one USB port and one serial port). My purchase would be based on what the cheapest outcome for everything I needed was: Cost of RIS 1.5 + Upgrade + USB + S&H verses RIS 2.0 + Serial + S&H. 72,74c69,71 >=20 >=20 > Currently debating in my head whether of these versions is=20 > > > Currently debating in my head whether of these versions is 76,77c73,74 >=20 > I've checked the inventory with Peeron, all RIS kits appear=20 > > I've checked the inventory with Peeron, all RIS kits appear 80,81c77,78 >=20 > Does 1.5 come with ANYTHING that isn't included in 2.0 ? I=20 > > Does 1.5 come with ANYTHING that isn't included in 2.0 ? I 84c81 >=20 > 86,88c83,85 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > 90,91c87 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:19785 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 14 Lines: 13 20,27c21,27 For anyone interested... I have two spare Vision Command = Constructopedias and CD's (English). If anyone is willing to part with = the software/documentation from the Steven Spielberg Movie Studio set, = please email me. Also, I'd like to expand the Vision Command XP page to include other = language versions of the VC XP Preinstall file, instructions, and screen = shots. Please contact me if you'd like to help with this. For anyone interested... I have two spare Vision Command Constructopedias and CD's (English). If anyone is willing to part with the software/documentation from the Steven Spielberg Movie Studio set, please email me. Also, I'd like to expand the Vision Command XP page to include other language versions of the VC XP Preinstall file, instructions, and screen shots. Please contact me if you'd like to help with this. 32,34d31
lugnet.robotics:19793 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 > > I plan to acomplish this by using a serise of single byte=20 > > I plan to acomplish this by using a serise of single byte 24c25 > >Messages from the tower to the RCX will have the vehicle=20 > >Messages from the tower to the RCX will have the vehicle 26c27 > >the first two digits and the place as the third (car four is=20 > >the first two digits and the place as the third (car four is 28c29 > >would be 43 or 043 car twelve in first place would be 121) =20 > >would be 43 or 043 car twelve in first place would be 121) 30c31 >=20 > 32,33c33,34 >=20 > Right off the bat, I'd say 23 cars is too many. It won't=20 > > Right off the bat, I'd say 23 cars is too many. It won't 35c36 > move around, so they'll spend all their time bumping each=20 > move around, so they'll spend all their time bumping each 37c38 > 4 or 6 would be about right. So, if the program was set to=20 > 4 or 6 would be about right. So, if the program was set to 40c41 >=20 > 42,43c43,44 >=20 > If you do limit it to 9 (or 10), you could send the car=20 > > If you do limit it to 9 (or 10), you could send the car 46c47 >=20 > 49,51c50,52 Perhaps 2 bits for race status, 3 bits for car #, and 3 bits for = position. That gives 8 cars and 8 positions plus allows the ability to = tell a car "finished", "keep racing", or "caution": Perhaps 2 bits for race status, 3 bits for car #, and 3 bits for position. That gives 8 cars and 8 positions plus allows the ability to tell a car "finished", "keep racing", or "caution": 60,62c61,63 s =3D race status (2 bits) c =3D car number (3 bits) p =3D position s = race status (2 bits) c = car number (3 bits) p = position 65,67c66,68 10000000 =3D caution flag up, car 1 in 1st place 11101111 =3D finished race, car 5 in 8th place 01011001 =3D keep racing, car 3 in 2nd place 10000000 = caution flag up, car 1 in 1st place 11101111 = finished race, car 5 in 8th place 01011001 = keep racing, car 3 in 2nd place 76c77 MSB 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 LSB =20 MSB 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 LSB 80,82c81,83 n =3D notify (1=3Dprivate followed 2 bit command 3 bit car) m =3D message/command d =3D car number data or extended command data n = notify (1=private followed 2 bit command 3 bit car) m = message/command d = car number data or extended command data 85,86c86,87 00111011 =3D car #3, you are disqualified 00011111 =3D all cars, race cancelled, stop immediately 00111011 = car #3, you are disqualified 00011111 = all cars, race cancelled, stop immediately 88,89c89,90 >=20 > >Messages for the RCX would be triggered from an event from=20 > > >Messages for the RCX would be triggered from an event from 91c92 > >sensor over the start finsh line at the beginning of a=20 > >sensor over the start finsh line at the beginning of a 93c94 > >touch sensor for an overhead bar. the rcx would transmit a=20 > >touch sensor for an overhead bar. the rcx would transmit a 95c96 > >the first two digits being the racer number and the last=20 > >the first two digits being the racer number and the last 98,99c99,100 >=20 > What happens if two cars cross the line together? I think=20 > > What happens if two cars cross the line together? I think 101c102 > hardest part to do with a program. Maybe you could design it=20 > hardest part to do with a program. Maybe you could design it 104c105 >=20 > 130,131d130
lugnet.robotics:19850 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 57 Lines: 51 23c24 am just a little worried about the 5=B0 tolerance since I want to use it am just a little worried about the 5° tolerance since I want to use it 35,36c36 > In lugnet.robotics, "Raphael Langerhorst" <raphael-langerhorst@gmx.at> wr= ites: > In lugnet.robotics, "Raphael Langerhorst" <raphael-langerhorst@gmx.at> writes: 40c40 >=20 > 42,44c42,43 >=20 > HiTechnic does sell this sensor, ready to connect to an RCX. (I doubt Jo= hn > > HiTechnic does sell this sensor, ready to connect to an RCX. (I doubt John 47,49c46,47 >=20 > With that said, I doubt it's a simple task to create the interface betwee= n > > With that said, I doubt it's a simple task to create the interface between 52,54c50,51 >=20 > Most of the stuff from HiTechnic has a built in PICs and uses surface mou= nt > > Most of the stuff from HiTechnic has a built in PICs and uses surface mount 56c53 >=20 > 58,59c55 > (1) They want to use a compass sensor in a robot project or (2) They want= to > (1) They want to use a compass sensor in a robot project or (2) They want to 61c57 >=20 > 64c60 >=20 > 66,69c62,64 >=20 > http://www.precisionnav.com/legacy/compass-sensors-radar-sensors-breath-s= ensors-and-oem-modules/vector-2x-magnetometer.html >=20 > > http://www.precisionnav.com/legacy/compass-sensors-radar-sensors-breath-sensors-and-oem-modules/vector-2x-magnetometer.html > 71c66 >=20 > 73c68 >=20 > 76,79c71 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:19864 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 61 Lines: 60 18,20c19,20 I don't think saying "I have something that may appear to be a bomb" is = a wise idea... but it may be a good way to get your 10 seconds of fame = on the news. I don't think saying "I have something that may appear to be a bomb" is a wise idea... but it may be a good way to get your 10 seconds of fame on the news. 22,24c22,24 Perhaps FedEx is a better approach... you can ship the item to yourself = and have it held at a FedEx for pickup. Go there and pick it up and = take the stuff to BW. Perhaps FedEx is a better approach... you can ship the item to yourself and have it held at a FedEx for pickup. Go there and pick it up and take the stuff to BW. 31,33c31,33 >=20 >=20 > I think as long as nothing is on, it will be fine. You may=20 > > > I think as long as nothing is on, it will be fine. You may 35c35 > with corrupted firmware though - will there be a computer=20 > with corrupted firmware though - will there be a computer 39,40c39,40 >=20 > As for transporting it - carry it on and explain to the=20 > > As for transporting it - carry it on and explain to the 42c42 > a device inside the suitcase may look like a bomb. Do this=20 > a device inside the suitcase may look like a bomb. Do this 44c44 > gets near the conveyor belt. When they open the suitcase up,=20 > gets near the conveyor belt. When they open the suitcase up, 46c46 > it is, power it on, etc. If possible, have a simple program=20 > it is, power it on, etc. If possible, have a simple program 49,50c49,50 >=20 >=20 > > 56,58c56,58 >=20 >=20 > > Does anyone know if the new checked-baggage xray equipment=20 > > > > Does anyone know if the new checked-baggage xray equipment 62c62 > > There have been specific statments that the new equipment=20 > > There have been specific statments that the new equipment 67c67 > > Mindstorms stuff these days. And if the inspectors do see a=20 > > Mindstorms stuff these days. And if the inspectors do see a 70c70 > > motors and batteries in baggage, if it will be allowed=20 > > motors and batteries in baggage, if it will be allowed 75c75 > > Did you check the web site first?:=20 > > Did you check the web site first?: 77,79c77,78 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics:19867 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 88 Lines: 70 20,21c21 For the past month I've been working to streamline the VC installs for = XP For the past month I've been working to streamline the VC installs for XP 25,26c25 experiences (good or bad) with attempting to perform the installations. = The experiences (good or bad) with attempting to perform the installations. The 32,35c31,32 Both issues have been addressed. In addition, I've also made things = easier by creating batch scripts to do the necessary file manipulation and = execute Both issues have been addressed. In addition, I've also made things easier by creating batch scripts to do the necessary file manipulation and execute 44,45c41 I haven't added a FAQ page yet, but here are some of what will appear = there: I haven't added a FAQ page yet, but here are some of what will appear there: 51,58c47,50 A: Yes, you do. The "Vision Command Updater.exe" file is only = distributed on the RIS2 discs. That file was actually intended to allow Vision = Command to work with RIS 2.0. By sheer dumb luck the VC executables contained = in the updater work under 2000 and XP. VC will not work without them. If = you A: Yes, you do. The "Vision Command Updater.exe" file is only distributed on the RIS2 discs. That file was actually intended to allow Vision Command to work with RIS 2.0. By sheer dumb luck the VC executables contained in the updater work under 2000 and XP. VC will not work without them. If you 67,70c59,61 were a "rough draft" of sorts. Most of that detail has been scripted. = If you're really curious, I created two batch files and a reg file that reside in = the VC were a "rough draft" of sorts. Most of that detail has been scripted. If you're really curious, I created two batch files and a reg file that reside in the VC 81,82c72 preferably via network or CD burner. I'll be posting the instructions = soon. preferably via network or CD burner. I'll be posting the instructions soon. 85,88c75,76 A: The original installer didn't consider future operating systems even = though pre-release versions of XP were out at the time for developers and beta = testers A: The original installer didn't consider future operating systems even though pre-release versions of XP were out at the time for developers and beta testers 91,100c79,83 Q: How long do you think it will be before LEGO releases an official = fix? A: Good question. All they really need to do is dig up the encryption = info for accessing the .CAB files on the VC disc and create a new Installer = that will work under 2000 and XP. Such a file could be posted on LEGO's = support site for download and would probably be less than 5 Megabytes. The data = is Q: How long do you think it will be before LEGO releases an official fix? A: Good question. All they really need to do is dig up the encryption info for accessing the .CAB files on the VC disc and create a new Installer that will work under 2000 and XP. Such a file could be posted on LEGO's support site for download and would probably be less than 5 Megabytes. The data is 106,108d88
lugnet.robotics:19881 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 16 Lines: 14 25,26c26 energy, so few are used (by X-rays machines for carry-on baggage) that th= ey energy, so few are used (by X-rays machines for carry-on baggage) that they 30,31c30 Checked baggage is dosed with more (and perhaps shorter wavelength) X-ray= s Checked baggage is dosed with more (and perhaps shorter wavelength) X-rays 35d33
lugnet.robotics:19944 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 7 Lines: 6 19,20c20 Has anyone any practical experience of what robotic image processing _can= _ Has anyone any practical experience of what robotic image processing _can_ 26d25
lugnet.robotics:19956 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 26 Lines: 21 19c20 Steve = Steve 21,23c22 > > Yes I agree, but Steve B sees all kinds of problems just talking to t= he > > Yes I agree, but Steve B sees all kinds of problems just talking to the 25,26c24 > = > 32,35c30,31 In fact, only Win3.1 programs running under Win95 can do it easily. Win3.= 1 programs running under Win98 onwards can't talk to the parallel port at a= ll In fact, only Win3.1 programs running under Win95 can do it easily. Win3.1 programs running under Win98 onwards can't talk to the parallel port at all 45d40
lugnet.robotics:19962 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 21,25c22,25 If there are USB Logitec camera drivers for PPC (especially for the ball = cams), then try those. Many of the Logitec drivers will work fine with = the LEGO cam (considering it's a Logitech cam to begin with). = Conversely, the LEGO cam drivers work fine with many of the different = types of Logitech cams. If there are USB Logitec camera drivers for PPC (especially for the ball cams), then try those. Many of the Logitec drivers will work fine with the LEGO cam (considering it's a Logitech cam to begin with). Conversely, the LEGO cam drivers work fine with many of the different types of Logitech cams. 27c27 > To clarify, I should say that the software with the cam would=20 > To clarify, I should say that the software with the cam would 33,34c33 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:19997 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23,24c24,25 =20 >=20 > 26,27c27,28 >=20 > i don't think that it should be too expensive to alter the=20 > > i don't think that it should be too expensive to alter the 31c32 >=20 > 33c34 >=20 > 35,36c36 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:20043 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 31,32c32,33 >=20 >=20 > > 37c38 >=20 > 39,41c40,41 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics:20062 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 25 Lines: 19 22,23c23 The simplest and cheapest design I've seen used a PIC12C508, a hand-wound= The simplest and cheapest design I've seen used a PIC12C508, a hand-wound 25,28c25,26 coin at 5cm. It uses the coil and a few pF cap as the resonator of the PI= Cs clock oscillator. Then it measures how long it takes to charge/discharge = a coin at 5cm. It uses the coil and a few pF cap as the resonator of the PICs clock oscillator. Then it measures how long it takes to charge/discharge a 31,36c29,31 clock counts to charge/discharge the R/C changes. A simple program in the= PIC allows self-calibration and can produce a yes/no signal. All for a co= st of $2. There's a Microchip Application Note describing it with sample cod= e clock counts to charge/discharge the R/C changes. A simple program in the PIC allows self-calibration and can produce a yes/no signal. All for a cost of $2. There's a Microchip Application Note describing it with sample code 44d38
lugnet.robotics:20100 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 32,33c33,34 >=20 >=20 > > 38c39 >=20 > 40c41 >=20 > 42,43c43 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:20113 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,19c19,20 Unfortunately, "msconfig" doesn't exist on all versions of Windows. = However, "regedit" does. Unfortunately, "msconfig" doesn't exist on all versions of Windows. However, "regedit" does. 25,28c26,29 Can't remember off the top of my head, but I think the value name is = "RIS2Launch". Regardless, the Name Value to delete will have a String = Value (REG_SZ) set to "C:\Program Files\LEGO MINDSTORMS\RIS = 2.0\LaunchRis2.exe" if RIS2 was installed to it's default location. Can't remember off the top of my head, but I think the value name is "RIS2Launch". Regardless, the Name Value to delete will have a String Value (REG_SZ) set to "C:\Program Files\LEGO MINDSTORMS\RIS 2.0\LaunchRis2.exe" if RIS2 was installed to it's default location. 35,37c36,38 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > 44c45 > > http://news.lugnet.com/robotics/?n=3D19400 > > http://news.lugnet.com/robotics/?n=19400 48c49 > > In lugnet.robotics, "Andrew J. Huang"=20 > > In lugnet.robotics, "Andrew J. Huang" 58,59c59,60 >=20 > If your running Windows click on start, run, type msconfig,=20 > > If your running Windows click on start, run, type msconfig, 61c62 > startup tab, uncheck the MindStorms program from the list,=20 > startup tab, uncheck the MindStorms program from the list, 64,65c65 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:20138 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,33c19,34 In case nobody has noticed, the marketing for Mindstorms on the = Education front has increased/improved, despite the decrease in the = Consumer arena. Take a look at some of the latest Pitsco catalogs. The RCX and necessary electrical elements will exist for quite some = time. Schools are more likely to be long term sources of income to = support the thousands they already spent on "Robolab" equipment. Luckily the RIS appeared in the consumer market during the dot-com = "boom" when anything "tech" was cool and adults purchased multiple sets = (for themselves) because they could afford to. If I had to choose between spending $200 on an RIS or $200 on an XBox = system soley for a child's use (not my own), I'd spend it on the = XBox--at least I know it will get used more than two or three times in a = year, even though it isn't educational. In case nobody has noticed, the marketing for Mindstorms on the Education front has increased/improved, despite the decrease in the Consumer arena. Take a look at some of the latest Pitsco catalogs. The RCX and necessary electrical elements will exist for quite some time. Schools are more likely to be long term sources of income to support the thousands they already spent on "Robolab" equipment. Luckily the RIS appeared in the consumer market during the dot-com "boom" when anything "tech" was cool and adults purchased multiple sets (for themselves) because they could afford to. If I had to choose between spending $200 on an RIS or $200 on an XBox system soley for a child's use (not my own), I'd spend it on the XBox--at least I know it will get used more than two or three times in a year, even though it isn't educational. 36,40d36
lugnet.robotics:20161 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 51 Lines: 42 25,26c26 > If we could build our own RCX, what's stopping us from building our own= > If we could build our own RCX, what's stopping us from building our own 30,31c30 As an aside: I have a simple and successful design for a motor interfaced= As an aside: I have a simple and successful design for a motor interfaced 42,43c41 That is an absolutely fantastic idea. Have you written anything down that= That is an absolutely fantastic idea. Have you written anything down that 46,49c44,45 How would the ROM chip know what sensors were attached? Say I built a rob= ot with two wheels and two antennae and the ROM chip made it back-up and tur= n How would the ROM chip know what sensors were attached? Say I built a robot with two wheels and two antennae and the ROM chip made it back-up and turn 51,52c47 motors and antennae are plugged into? = motors and antennae are plugged into? 54,57c49,50 How do I say "this is a tank and must back up for 4 sec whereas that is a= fast buggy that backs up for 1 sec" - maybe the ROM brick has a "fast/slo= w" How do I say "this is a tank and must back up for 4 sec whereas that is a fast buggy that backs up for 1 sec" - maybe the ROM brick has a "fast/slow" 60,61c53 Now I add a two light sensors. The light sensor ROM has a program to head= Now I add a two light sensors. The light sensor ROM has a program to head 70d61
lugnet.robotics:20164 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 31 Lines: 26 20,21c21 rumors on how the RIS system is heading, I'd like to see how many RIS & = RCX rumors on how the RIS system is heading, I'd like to see how many RIS & RCX 27,32c27,29 If you love and enjoy the RIS kit, and are wanting to have the product = line continue on for many more years, please reply to the last message of = this thread, and add your name, state (if possible), and country to the = bottom of If you love and enjoy the RIS kit, and are wanting to have the product line continue on for many more years, please reply to the last message of this thread, and add your name, state (if possible), and country to the bottom of 34,35c31 Please remove ONLY the ">"s from the post so as to avoid the "new = message Please remove ONLY the ">"s from the post so as to avoid the "new message 48,49c44 Luiz Eduardo Merli de Oliveira, S=E3o Paulo, BRAZIL! Luiz Eduardo Merli de Oliveira, São Paulo, BRAZIL!
lugnet.robotics:20167 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 24 20,21c21 rumors on how the RIS system is heading, I'd like to see how many RIS & = RCX rumors on how the RIS system is heading, I'd like to see how many RIS & RCX 27,32c27,29 If you love and enjoy the RIS kit, and are wanting to have the product = line continue on for many more years, please reply to the last message of = this thread, and add your name, state (if possible), and country to the = bottom of If you love and enjoy the RIS kit, and are wanting to have the product line continue on for many more years, please reply to the last message of this thread, and add your name, state (if possible), and country to the bottom of 34,35c31 Please remove ONLY the ">"s from the post so as to avoid the "new = message Please remove ONLY the ">"s from the post so as to avoid the "new message 48d43
lugnet.robotics:20191 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 19 Eric = Lines: 15 20a20 Eric 24,25c24 A switch which is normally closed at each extreme of arm movement. = A switch which is normally closed at each extreme of arm movement. 29,30c28 When the arm gets to the end or its travel, the switch opens. The diode n= ow When the arm gets to the end or its travel, the switch opens. The diode now 33,34c31 But when you reverse the motor current, it flows through the diode and th= e But when you reverse the motor current, it flows through the diode and the 38,40d34
lugnet.robotics:20193 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 25 21,22c22 rumors on how the RIS system is heading, I'd like to see how many RIS & = RCX rumors on how the RIS system is heading, I'd like to see how many RIS & RCX 28,29c28 If you love and enjoy the RIS kit, and are wanting to have the product = line If you love and enjoy the RIS kit, and are wanting to have the product line 31,32c30 thread, and add your name, state (if possible), and country to the bottom = of thread, and add your name, state (if possible), and country to the bottom of 47d44
lugnet.robotics:20194 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 10 Lines: 9 19c20 Hello to all,=20 Hello to all, 21,22c22 Anyone knows about something to program my Mindstorm (RIS 2.0) with my = palm? Anyone knows about something to program my Mindstorm (RIS 2.0) with my palm? 29d28
lugnet.robotics:20203 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 19 19c20 Ken = Ken 20a22,25 >> rechargeable battery pacs >>used in certain electric tooth brushes? They recharge in a cradle, > they seem to have a coil of wire in the base unit and in the toothbrush, > and it's basically a transformer. 22,32c27 >> rechargeable battery pacs = >>used in certain electric tooth brushes? They recharge in a cradle, = > they seem to have a coil of wire in the base unit and in the toothbrush= , > and it's basically a transformer. = Any idea what sort of power could be transferred? = Any idea what sort of power could be transferred? 37,40c32,33 teeth and is left to charge for 12 hours. That's a charging rate of about= 12mW. An RCX holds, say, 9 watt hours. At 12mW, it would require 4 weeks = to teeth and is left to charge for 12 hours. That's a charging rate of about 12mW. An RCX holds, say, 9 watt hours. At 12mW, it would require 4 weeks to 46d38
lugnet.robotics:20204 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 75 Kyle = Lines: 58 20a20 Kyle 33,34c33 > a compromise = > a compromise 39,40c38 CAN bus? I2C bus? But that would require a third wire for power. They cou= ld CAN bus? I2C bus? But that would require a third wire for power. They could 43,44c41 > blocks with motor , motor controller, an RPM/Rotation/Torque Sensor = > blocks with motor , motor controller, an RPM/Rotation/Torque Sensor 49,52c46 > camera could directly interface to the computer block, = Hmmm. I don't see how. The data rates for pictures are too high and would= > camera could directly interface to the computer block, 54,57c48,50 swamp the bus. And the real problem with a images is what to do with them= . I guess if you had an intelligent camera like the CMUCAM then the output = is Hmmm. I don't see how. The data rates for pictures are too high and would swamp the bus. And the real problem with a images is what to do with them. I guess if you had an intelligent camera like the CMUCAM then the output is 64,65c57 Why is it different from programming the RCX? Except whenever you buy a n= ew Why is it different from programming the RCX? Except whenever you buy a new 67,68c59 driver/interface for that block, an icon for the drag-and-drop programmin= g driver/interface for that block, an icon for the drag-and-drop programming 72,81c63 > have it's own address hard coded = Each block has a unique (in the universe) ID - such as the Dallas ID chip= s. When the cpu is turned on it queries who's there (I think both CAN and I2= C can do that). When the PC starts a dowload, it checks that the hardware i= s as expected and if it's in doubt asks which motor you meant when you said= > have it's own address hard coded 82a65,68 Each block has a unique (in the universe) ID - such as the Dallas ID chips. When the cpu is turned on it queries who's there (I think both CAN and I2C can do that). When the PC starts a dowload, it checks that the hardware is as expected and if it's in doubt asks which motor you meant when you said 86c72 > system used in model trains. = > system used in model trains. 88,90c74 I suspect that the DCC system can send power and data because it only use= s I suspect that the DCC system can send power and data because it only uses 94d77
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lugnet.robotics:20215 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 21 Lines: 14 19c20 Bruce = Bruce 20a22,24 > >> rechargeable battery pacs > >>used in certain electric tooth brushes? > With large enough coils several watts. It's just an air core transformer. 22d25 > >> rechargeable battery pacs = 24c27,28 > >>used in certain electric tooth brushes? = The question is, what constitutes "large enough"? Industrial ones that can charge a car battery are too large for a Lego mobile robot. 26,36c30 > With large enough coils several watts. It's just an air core transforme= r. The question is, what constitutes "large enough"? Industrial ones that ca= n charge a car battery are too large for a Lego mobile robot. = What power transfer can one reasonably expect from a simple small air cor= e What power transfer can one reasonably expect from a simple small air core 40d33
lugnet.robotics:20216 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 24 Lines: 16 19,30c20 Bruce = > > Did you have to get Lego's permission to do that? = > I don't know why we would need anyone's permission to purchase their = > product and use it. You're welcome to buy any publicly available = > commercial parts and combine them into a product for sale (after all = > that's why the suppliers sell them). This is the basis of most = Bruce 31a22,26 > > Did you have to get Lego's permission to do that? > I don't know why we would need anyone's permission to purchase their > product and use it. You're welcome to buy any publicly available > commercial parts and combine them into a product for sale (after all > that's why the suppliers sell them). This is the basis of most 35,38c30,31 past, Lego have been extremely jealous of their name and their products a= nd have refused to allow companies to "associate" their product with Lego in= past, Lego have been extremely jealous of their name and their products and have refused to allow companies to "associate" their product with Lego in 43d35
lugnet.robotics:20217 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 10 >> > Did you have to get Lego's permission to do that? = Lines: 8 20a20 >> > Did you have to get Lego's permission to do that? 24,25c24 Do you know if the Bricksmiths people got permission from Lego? Or did th= ey Do you know if the Bricksmiths people got permission from Lego? Or did they 29,30d27
lugnet.robotics:20218 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 21 19c20 Eric = Eric 21,23c22 > >What is the relative efficiency of the different gear trains? Lego gea= rs > >What is the relative efficiency of the different gear trains? Lego gears 26,30c25,26 > "business drive".....using it together with other gears to compliment t= he > overall gear train. So I'm really not sure how to answer your question.= = > "business drive".....using it together with other gears to compliment the > overall gear train. So I'm really not sure how to answer your question. 36,41c32,34 Efficiency is power-out divided by power-in. A Lego worm drive is less th= an 50% efficient. That's why, no matter how hard you turn the 40t pinion, yo= u cannot get the worm to turn. A series of pinions (providing a similat 40:= 1 Efficiency is power-out divided by power-in. A Lego worm drive is less than 50% efficient. That's why, no matter how hard you turn the 40t pinion, you cannot get the worm to turn. A series of pinions (providing a similat 40:1 48,49d40
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lugnet.robotics:20235 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 66 Lines: 54 19,24c20 Kyle = > What I thought was harder, was that the PC programming software wouldn'= t > easily be able to tell How many motors you have or how many sensors. = Kyle 25a22,23 > What I thought was harder, was that the PC programming software wouldn't > easily be able to tell How many motors you have or how many sensors. 29,30c27 The chip on the sensor or motor can say what it is - an ASCII string that= The chip on the sensor or motor can say what it is - an ASCII string that 40,41c37 > of the motor though (maybe LEDs that the software could light up?) it'd= > of the motor though (maybe LEDs that the software could light up?) it'd 43,44c39 > hard to make sure you and the PC environment are talking about the same= > hard to make sure you and the PC environment are talking about the same 49,50c44 command New Hardware. The PC talks to the cpu, the cpu talks to the bus a= nd command New Hardware. The PC talks to the cpu, the cpu talks to the bus and 52,57c46,48 motor and says 'You've got a new "motor". What do you want to call it'. Y= ou take a felt-tip and write on the motor "XYZ" then tell the PC 'It's calle= d "XYZ"'. From now on, the PC always refers to that motor as XYZ. No-one ne= ed motor and says 'You've got a new "motor". What do you want to call it'. You take a felt-tip and write on the motor "XYZ" then tell the PC 'It's called "XYZ"'. From now on, the PC always refers to that motor as XYZ. No-one need 60,61c51 It's all straightforward stuff and the sort of thing that comms programme= rs It's all straightforward stuff and the sort of thing that comms programmers 80,81c70 Does anyone have any references to research done on graphical programming= Does anyone have any references to research done on graphical programming 85d73
lugnet.robotics:20245 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 88 Lines: 62 19c20 John = John 21,23c22 >I think an ability to retain as much "Lego" infrastructure as possible i= s >I think an ability to retain as much "Lego" infrastructure as possible is 27,32c26,27 > to depart the basic simplicity of polarity independence and Lego mechic= al > compatibility = True. I was assuming that this was an alternative to the RCX. = > to depart the basic simplicity of polarity independence and Lego mechical > compatibility 33a29 True. I was assuming that this was an alternative to the RCX. 37,38c33 route we're discussing here but I'm not sure that those reasons were vali= d. route we're discussing here but I'm not sure that those reasons were valid. 45,48c40 electrical connectors into Lego bricks. = What I've designed allows dumb input or output at a "port" or intelligent= electrical connectors into Lego bricks. 50,55c42,45 input or output via "comms" at each port. As you say, an industry standar= d bus is not of vital importance. The big disadvantage of something like I2= C or CAN is that the peripheral chip has to be able to accept comms input a= t What I've designed allows dumb input or output at a "port" or intelligent input or output via "comms" at each port. As you say, an industry standard bus is not of vital importance. The big disadvantage of something like I2C or CAN is that the peripheral chip has to be able to accept comms input at 57,62c47,48 None of the chips I was considering (mainly the very cheap 8-pin PICs) ca= n do that. Comms shouldn't start until both sides are ready to communicate.= > data stream on top of the power = None of the chips I was considering (mainly the very cheap 8-pin PICs) can do that. Comms shouldn't start until both sides are ready to communicate. 63a50 > data stream on top of the power 68,71c55,56 > There is about 1/2 square inch of board space = > fit both the sensor electronics and a communications = > There is about 1/2 square inch of board space > fit both the sensor electronics and a communications 74,77c59,60 I'd use a PIC (but that's just because I always do). You'd have to invent= your own protocol. I see that Microchip have announced some extremely sma= ll I'd use a PIC (but that's just because I always do). You'd have to invent your own protocol. I see that Microchip have announced some extremely small 79,80c62 looked through their CD but can find any exact dimensions. They say their= looked through their CD but can find any exact dimensions. They say their 82,83c64 are supposed to be even smaller. I certainly wouldn't want to hand-solder= are supposed to be even smaller. I certainly wouldn't want to hand-solder 86,89c67,68 But a small 8-pin PIC will only run at 1Mips (with its internal oscillato= r) and I doubt if you can write async comms s/w to run at better than 20kbps= . But a small 8-pin PIC will only run at 1Mips (with its internal oscillator) and I doubt if you can write async comms s/w to run at better than 20kbps. 92,93c71 Perhaps they have a small outline 16F627 (18-pin). It has a built-in UART= Perhaps they have a small outline 16F627 (18-pin). It has a built-in UART 99,104c77,79 used then and I don't know if there are miniature packages yet. There are= also I2C PICs but I think they can only be master (while you want to be a= slave?). = used then and I don't know if there are miniature packages yet. There are also I2C PICs but I think they can only be master (while you want to be a slave?). 107,108d81
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lugnet.robotics:20262 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 125 Steve = Lines: 101 20a20 Steve 25,28c25 > makes it very hard to share software. = Before a download begins, the PC checks whether the named motors exist in= > makes it very hard to share software. 29a27 Before a download begins, the PC checks whether the named motors exist in 31,34c29,30 table (which is probably local to that program - you wouldn't want to mes= s up your own alias table in order to try out someone else's code). = table (which is probably local to that program - you wouldn't want to mess up your own alias table in order to try out someone else's code). 37,38c33 > pre-programmed software (like the Scout or MicroScout) = > pre-programmed software (like the Scout or MicroScout) 44,51c39,42 process is already quite lengthy. There will be an extra stage in which y= ou are prompted "Now plug in one of your motors. Put a letter A on the side"= and the alias table is set up with standard names that match the names in= the pre-programmed software. = process is already quite lengthy. There will be an extra stage in which you are prompted "Now plug in one of your motors. Put a letter A on the side" and the alias table is set up with standard names that match the names in the pre-programmed software. 60,63c51,52 > a friendly name inside the device itself = > it remembers that in some tiny flash memory. = > a friendly name inside the device itself > it remembers that in some tiny flash memory. 66,67c55 motor names in order to try out your code. Having the alias on the PC mea= ns motor names in order to try out your code. Having the alias on the PC means 76,79c64,65 > cute graphical thing = > LEGO ... just have clear building instructions = > cute graphical thing > LEGO ... just have clear building instructions 83,84c69 I don't believe that degradation would be a problem. Even TTL-level "RS23= 2" I don't believe that degradation would be a problem. Even TTL-level "RS232" 91,92c76 you'd need "Y" connections. The chip needs more I/O pins and more complex= you'd need "Y" connections. The chip needs more I/O pins and more complex 94,95c78 add/subtract 1 from the address). The chip must be able to receive and pa= ss add/subtract 1 from the address). The chip must be able to receive and pass 100,101c83 I don't see that the advantages are all that great compared with the cost= s. I don't see that the advantages are all that great compared with the costs. 106,107c88 Yes, I've done exactly that protocol but I was using a decent big PIC chi= p. Yes, I've done exactly that protocol but I was using a decent big PIC chip. 121,122c102 Yes. That's a very attractive idea. (And it works with either kind of com= ms Yes. That's a very attractive idea. (And it works with either kind of comms 126,131c106 > communications between parts of the same robot. = You'd have parts of the network - both nodes and "wires" - that operate a= t very different speeds. I suspect that a network that operates with packet= > communications between parts of the same robot. 132a108,109 You'd have parts of the network - both nodes and "wires" - that operate at very different speeds. I suspect that a network that operates with packet 144d120
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It doesn't matter how good/bad your service/support is if you are the = only place the JCX comes from and supports it. My job involves supporting computer systems. I see people/places = willing to throw away computers just because they upgraded to something = newer--nothing wrong with the 2-year-old system. Laptops are cheaper to = replace than fix outside of warranty (esp. if the screen is = damaged)--yet work fine with an external monitor. In my world, = recycling laptops for robotics makes perfect sense (to me, anyway). I'm sure that in your world of dealing with college funded projects, = what you ask for the JCX seems reasonable. Guess I'll just have to = suffer with using an unsupportable PII233 laptop until I have $500 to = toss into the wind (or spend on a JCX). The article has to do specifically with the fast food business, not traditional product manufacturing or retail sales. It talks about how fast food places pull customers in with gimmicks and then push them out the door, so to speak. The passion you have for your creation is great, and truly admirable. I applaud your strong belief in your product. And no, I don't think you're nuts for making the JCX. I just think you're nuts for wanting $500 for a base system that controls 8 sensors and 4 motors in real-time when that same goal can be accomplished with a much, much cheaper solution. It doesn't matter how good/bad your service/support is if you are the only place the JCX comes from and supports it. My job involves supporting computer systems. I see people/places willing to throw away computers just because they upgraded to something newer--nothing wrong with the 2-year-old system. Laptops are cheaper to replace than fix outside of warranty (esp. if the screen is damaged)--yet work fine with an external monitor. In my world, recycling laptops for robotics makes perfect sense (to me, anyway). I'm sure that in your world of dealing with college funded projects, what you ask for the JCX seems reasonable. Guess I'll just have to suffer with using an unsupportable PII233 laptop until I have $500 to toss into the wind (or spend on a JCX). 67,68c66 For under $100 one can tap into more power and features from the guts of = a For under $100 one can tap into more power and features from the guts of a 74,75c72 Sorry to rain on the JCX parade, but I don't see $500 worth of features = or Sorry to rain on the JCX parade, but I don't see $500 worth of features or 78,96c75,89 Maybe you are the kind of person who would rather roll their own, as = your remarks imply, and that's fine too. Diversity makes the world = interesting. And you are not the first person to think we are nuts to = create JCX. I went to your greenfieldgroup website and found this advice in this = article:=20 http://www.greenfieldgroup.com/something_archive.asp?story=3D4 Here's a daring and novel concept . . . how about a concerted focus on = good ol' cordial, friendly service? "That's not differentiating," you = say. "It can be copied too easily." We're not so sure about that and, = more importantly, no one seems to have succeeded at it yet. Perhaps along with JCX we can provide better customer service and = support than you would get if you built your Legos around a $100 laptop = with a cracked screen. We'll do our best. Bruce Boyes=20 Maybe you are the kind of person who would rather roll their own, as your remarks imply, and that's fine too. Diversity makes the world interesting. And you are not the first person to think we are nuts to create JCX. I went to your greenfieldgroup website and found this advice in this article: http://www.greenfieldgroup.com/something_archive.asp?story=4 Here's a daring and novel concept . . . how about a concerted focus on good ol' cordial, friendly service? "That's not differentiating," you say. "It can be copied too easily." We're not so sure about that and, more importantly, no one seems to have succeeded at it yet. Perhaps along with JCX we can provide better customer service and support than you would get if you built your Legos around a $100 laptop with a cracked screen. We'll do our best. 97a91 Bruce Boyes
lugnet.robotics:20298 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 91 Lines: 87 22,36c23,37 =20 > But the quote was about customer service, and I think it matters not=20 > whether it's a hamburger or a new car, people expect the same=20 > quality of=20 > service. We learned this years ago selling software. It=20 > didn't matter if=20 > the package was $50 or $500, people have almost identical=20 > expectations=20 > about customer service and support. I know that may sound=20 > crazy, but we=20 > found it to be true. What this taught us is that the support on a $50=20 > product can kill you. This is why there is an industry trend=20 > to reduced=20 > support, customer "call centers", endless waits on hold, etc.=20 > It's hard to=20 > But the quote was about customer service, and I think it matters not > whether it's a hamburger or a new car, people expect the same > quality of > service. We learned this years ago selling software. It > didn't matter if > the package was $50 or $500, people have almost identical > expectations > about customer service and support. I know that may sound > crazy, but we > found it to be true. What this taught us is that the support on a $50 > product can kill you. This is why there is an industry trend > to reduced > support, customer "call centers", endless waits on hold, etc. > It's hard to 38,40c39,41 >=20 > As engineers, we can't and won't do that to our customers,=20 > since we don't=20 > > As engineers, we can't and won't do that to our customers, > since we don't 54,60c55,61 =20 > That also includes a CPU which can natively (meaning Java=20 > byte codes are=20 > its 'assembly' code) execute 3,000,000 Java byte codes per=20 > second. You can=20 > plug in boards for 8 or 16 more sensors or 4 or 8 more motors=20 > and have the=20 > That also includes a CPU which can natively (meaning Java > byte codes are > its 'assembly' code) execute 3,000,000 Java byte codes per > second. You can > plug in boards for 8 or 16 more sensors or 4 or 8 more motors > and have the 66,68c67,69 =20 > >It doesn't matter how good/bad your service/support is if=20 > you are the only=20 > >It doesn't matter how good/bad your service/support is if > you are the only 70,72c71,73 >=20 > What do you mean -- Lego Mindstorms come from one place and=20 > they seem to=20 > > What do you mean -- Lego Mindstorms come from one place and > they seem to 78,81c79,80 MS has a Knowledge Base open to everyone. They support their software = for free to an extent. Beyond that, you can obtain support from them under = a MS has a Knowledge Base open to everyone. They support their software for free to an extent. Beyond that, you can obtain support from them under a 87,90c86,87 Linux distributers are great examples of how to provide support and = still turn a profit without passing those support costs directly to all = product Linux distributers are great examples of how to provide support and still turn a profit without passing those support costs directly to all product 92c89 =20 95c92 > Comparable robots are $1500-$2000 and are nowhere near as=20 > Comparable robots are $1500-$2000 and are nowhere near as 97c94 >=20 > 99,102c96,99 >=20 > We will probably never be *price* competitive with 20-year old 8-bit=20 > technology. An assembled 68HC11 HandyBoard is $300... It's=20 > more likely the=20 > > We will probably never be *price* competitive with 20-year old 8-bit > technology. An assembled 68HC11 HandyBoard is $300... It's > more likely the 108,109c105 =20
lugnet.robotics:20299 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 34 Lines: 32 24,25c25,26 >=20 >=20 > > 27,28c28,29 > >I agree that $500 for a robot controller is probably too=20 > much for most=20 > >I agree that $500 for a robot controller is probably too > much for most 31,34c32,35 >=20 > For those for whom one RCX does the job, there's no reason to=20 > switch. The=20 > original context of this thread was people frustrated by lack of more=20 > > For those for whom one RCX does the job, there's no reason to > switch. The > original context of this thread was people frustrated by lack of more 36,38c37,39 >=20 > What about those who are using three - or even more - RCXs =20 > when one JCX=20 > > What about those who are using three - or even more - RCXs > when one JCX 41,46c42,45 If the comparison is one JCX =3D three RCX's, then the JCX should, in my = opinion reflect similar pricing to the cost of three RCX's, which is around = $200-$240. =20 > I agree with all your other remarks - you summarized things=20 If the comparison is one JCX = three RCX's, then the JCX should, in my opinion reflect similar pricing to the cost of three RCX's, which is around $200-$240. > I agree with all your other remarks - you summarized things 48,49c47,48 >=20 > Bruce=20 > > Bruce 52d50
lugnet.robotics:20308 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 71 Lines: 62 18,21c19,22 And unless we forget, there is always fischertechnik with eight inputs = and four outputs (and an expansion module) for 130 euros. Moreover = fischertechnik continues to produce new products (check out the bionic = robots or the new mobile robots with improved motors. And unless we forget, there is always fischertechnik with eight inputs and four outputs (and an expansion module) for 130 euros. Moreover fischertechnik continues to produce new products (check out the bionic robots or the new mobile robots with improved motors. 35,36c36 For under $100 one can tap into more power and features from the guts of = a For under $100 one can tap into more power and features from the guts of a 39,40c39 Sorry to rain on the JCX parade, but I don't see $500 worth of features = or Sorry to rain on the JCX parade, but I don't see $500 worth of features or 43,44c42 > If you can all hang in there another two months the answer will be = JCX: > If you can all hang in there another two months the answer will be JCX: 56,57c54 > 8 sensor inputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple = boards > 8 sensor inputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple boards 59,60c56 > 4 motor outputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple = boards > 4 motor outputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple boards 66,67c62 > Already compatible with color image camera CMUcam, code already = written to > Already compatible with color image camera CMUcam, code already written to 69,70c64 > Most of the code support will be open source, user contributions = welcomed > Most of the code support will be open source, user contributions welcomed 76,77c70 > It really will be here in first half 2003, we plan to demo at April = and > It really will be here in first half 2003, we plan to demo at April and 79,80c72 > I realize all the above is not trivial, that's why it has taken us = nearly > I realize all the above is not trivial, that's why it has taken us nearly 89,90d80
lugnet.robotics:20309 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 80 Lines: 71 21c22 From: Mihalka, Michael=20 From: Mihalka, Michael 27,30c28,31 And unless we forget, there is always fischertechnik with eight inputs = and four outputs (and an expansion module) for 130 euros. Moreover = fischertechnik continues to produce new products (check out the bionic = robots or the new mobile robots with improved motors. And unless we forget, there is always fischertechnik with eight inputs and four outputs (and an expansion module) for 130 euros. Moreover fischertechnik continues to produce new products (check out the bionic robots or the new mobile robots with improved motors. 44,45c45 For under $100 one can tap into more power and features from the guts of = a For under $100 one can tap into more power and features from the guts of a 48,49c48 Sorry to rain on the JCX parade, but I don't see $500 worth of features = or Sorry to rain on the JCX parade, but I don't see $500 worth of features or 52,53c51 > If you can all hang in there another two months the answer will be = JCX: > If you can all hang in there another two months the answer will be JCX: 65,66c63 > 8 sensor inputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple = boards > 8 sensor inputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple boards 68,69c65 > 4 motor outputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple = boards > 4 motor outputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple boards 75,76c71 > Already compatible with color image camera CMUcam, code already = written to > Already compatible with color image camera CMUcam, code already written to 78,79c73 > Most of the code support will be open source, user contributions = welcomed > Most of the code support will be open source, user contributions welcomed 85,86c79 > It really will be here in first half 2003, we plan to demo at April = and > It really will be here in first half 2003, we plan to demo at April and 88,89c81 > I realize all the above is not trivial, that's why it has taken us = nearly > I realize all the above is not trivial, that's why it has taken us nearly 98,99d89
lugnet.robotics:20310 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 112 Lines: 96 20,26c21,25 Well unfortunately I have several hobbies and I cycle through them. I am = now back to my robotics cycle. You can buy fischertechnik in the US = through http://www.timberdoodle.com/catalog.asp?SessionID=3D&prevPage=3D%2Fspecia= ls.asp&Goto=3D4&go.x=3D18&go.y=3D12 These are great people to work with. I'm sure they would be willing to = buy the bionic robots for you. Well unfortunately I have several hobbies and I cycle through them. I am now back to my robotics cycle. You can buy fischertechnik in the US through http://www.timberdoodle.com/catalog.asp?SessionID=&prevPage=%2Fspecials.asp&Goto=4&go.x=18&go.y=12 These are great people to work with. I'm sure they would be willing to buy the bionic robots for you. 51,54c50,52 >And unless we forget, there is always fischertechnik with eight inputs = and=20 >four outputs (and an expansion module) for 130 euros. Moreover=20 >fischertechnik continues to produce new products (check out the bionic=20 >And unless we forget, there is always fischertechnik with eight inputs and >four outputs (and an expansion module) for 130 euros. Moreover >fischertechnik continues to produce new products (check out the bionic 69,70c67 >For under $100 one can tap into more power and features from the guts = of a >For under $100 one can tap into more power and features from the guts of a 73,74c70 >Sorry to rain on the JCX parade, but I don't see $500 worth of features = or >Sorry to rain on the JCX parade, but I don't see $500 worth of features or 77,78c73 > > If you can all hang in there another two months the answer will be = JCX: > > If you can all hang in there another two months the answer will be JCX: 82,83c77 > > 512 KBytes SRAM (this can be used just for heap - working data = space) > > 512 KBytes SRAM (this can be used just for heap - working data space) 88,89c82 > > prebuilt code support for 1/4 VGA LCD with touchscreen, others in = the > > prebuilt code support for 1/4 VGA LCD with touchscreen, others in the 92,93c85 > > 8 sensor inputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple = boards > > 8 sensor inputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple boards 95,96c87 > > 4 motor outputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple = boards > > 4 motor outputs per plug in board, Lego(tm) compatible, multiple boards 102,103c93 > > Already compatible with color image camera CMUcam, code already = written to > > Already compatible with color image camera CMUcam, code already written to 105,106c95 > > Most of the code support will be open source, user contributions = welcomed > > Most of the code support will be open source, user contributions welcomed 108,109c97 > > Target price for base system with 8 inputs, four outputs, first = listed > > Target price for base system with 8 inputs, four outputs, first listed 113,114c101 > > It really will be here in first half 2003, we plan to demo at April = and > > It really will be here in first half 2003, we plan to demo at April and 116,117c103 > > I realize all the above is not trivial, that's why it has taken us = nearly > > I realize all the above is not trivial, that's why it has taken us nearly 127,128c113 > > Did you check the web site first?: = http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics > > Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics 130,131d114
lugnet.robotics:20319 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 11 Rob = Lines: 9 20a20 Rob 23,24c23 > -- has three motion detectors that send an alert to a base station. = > -- has three motion detectors that send an alert to a base station. 30,31d28
lugnet.robotics:20321 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 74 Lines: 66 28,29c29 > > that. You can also use the JTAG adapter to program Xilinx CPLDs and= FPGAs. > > that. You can also use the JTAG adapter to program Xilinx CPLDs and FPGAs. 37,40c37,38 > > whatever you want with the individual pieces since you only need one= tool > > license per user (this license is with Sun and aJile, it does *not* go= =20 > > whatever you want with the individual pieces since you only need one tool > > license per user (this license is with Sun and aJile, it does *not* go 53,57c51,54 The Java level is 100% pure java, open and standard. Use *any* Java=20 development tool you like. I use the Sun JDK 1.4.1 and now prefer the=20 Eclipse IDE. I also use JBuilder, JEdit and RealJ. It doesn't matter, the=20 output from all of these is a standard java .class file. These tools run on= =20 The Java level is 100% pure java, open and standard. Use *any* Java development tool you like. I use the Sun JDK 1.4.1 and now prefer the Eclipse IDE. I also use JBuilder, JEdit and RealJ. It doesn't matter, the output from all of these is a standard java .class file. These tools run on 60,71c57,65 There is a linker and configuration tool, JemBuilder, and a=20 programmer/debugger, Charade, and these are "proprietary" in the sense that= =20 they know about the JStamp and JStik hardware and can communicate with it=20 at a low level for programming flash memory, setting breakpoints, etc. The= =20 JTAG downloader interface connects to a PC serial port and (perhaps sadly)= =20 it does require a Windoze DLL. Plans (no definite delivery) are for a USB=20 version which would be portable across operating systems. For the near=20 future you do need a Windoze PC or a Windoze emulator running on Linux to=20 talk to the parallel port (I have seen this in action though I don't use=20 There is a linker and configuration tool, JemBuilder, and a programmer/debugger, Charade, and these are "proprietary" in the sense that they know about the JStamp and JStik hardware and can communicate with it at a low level for programming flash memory, setting breakpoints, etc. The JTAG downloader interface connects to a PC serial port and (perhaps sadly) it does require a Windoze DLL. Plans (no definite delivery) are for a USB version which would be portable across operating systems. For the near future you do need a Windoze PC or a Windoze emulator running on Linux to talk to the parallel port (I have seen this in action though I don't use 74,76c68,69 There are both byte code and source level debuggers (the open JSwat=20 debugger). JSwat is Java itself and will run on Linux. The JemBuilder tool= =20 There are both byte code and source level debuggers (the open JSwat debugger). JSwat is Java itself and will run on Linux. The JemBuilder tool 81c74 Yes, see above, you still need PC hardware with a parallel port. (sorry,=20 Yes, see above, you still need PC hardware with a parallel port. (sorry, 88c81 >J=FCrgen >Jürgen 91c84 >J=FCrgen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr> >Jürgen Stuber <stuber@loria.fr> 94,97c87 >I =E5a =E4 e =F6 =E5 i =F6a =E4 e =E5. >I åa ä e ö å i öa ä e å.
lugnet.robotics:20323 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 51 Lines: 49 18,33c19,32 I've experienced weird results depending on the version of linux and the = laptop. I have a Compaq Presario 1260 laptop. I tried three different = versions of RH and two versions of SuSe. The only version of Linux I = could get the sound card to work properly under was RH Linux 7.3 (using = an sb driver), so far. I currently have the latest RH loaded on it, but = haven't tried configuring the sound card yet. I'm new to Linux, so this = has been a major pain. The restore CD's and it will rebuild a service partition. An easy way = to test if the service partition is actually needed is to fdisk a spare = hard drive, load an OS, and boot from it. Since the days of 486 computers, I've yet to see a machine that needs = the service partition. All service partitions I'm aware of just have = diagnostic utilities and allow you to change the BIOS from a software = interface. I've experienced weird results depending on the version of linux and the laptop. I have a Compaq Presario 1260 laptop. I tried three different versions of RH and two versions of SuSe. The only version of Linux I could get the sound card to work properly under was RH Linux 7.3 (using an sb driver), so far. I currently have the latest RH loaded on it, but haven't tried configuring the sound card yet. I'm new to Linux, so this has been a major pain. The restore CD's and it will rebuild a service partition. An easy way to test if the service partition is actually needed is to fdisk a spare hard drive, load an OS, and boot from it. Since the days of 486 computers, I've yet to see a machine that needs the service partition. All service partitions I'm aware of just have diagnostic utilities and allow you to change the BIOS from a software interface. 42,44c41,43 >=20 >=20 > Do a google search for your laptop model number + linux. =20 > > > Do a google search for your laptop model number + linux. 46c45 > especially compaq ones have "issues" running linux. compaq=20 > especially compaq ones have "issues" running linux. compaq 48c47 > BIOS onto a tiny little partition on the harddrive, make sure=20 > BIOS onto a tiny little partition on the harddrive, make sure 51c50 >=20 > 53c52 >=20 > 59,61c58,60 >=20 >=20 > Does anyone know of any instruction for installing legos on=20 > > > Does anyone know of any instruction for installing legos on 64c63 > RedHat/Debian and Windows. I am trying to install legos on=20 > RedHat/Debian and Windows. I am trying to install legos on 68,69c67 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:20328 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 Substitute the TSOP-1140 for TSOP-1138. The Max232 chip can be obtained = as a free sample from www.maxim-ic.com Substitute the TSOP-1140 for TSOP-1138. The Max232 chip can be obtained as a free sample from www.maxim-ic.com 23,24c24,25 All the remaining parts are items that can be ordered right off = Reynold's Electronics website (http://www.rentron.com) All the remaining parts are items that can be ordered right off Reynold's Electronics website (http://www.rentron.com) 26,30c27,31 A better solution would be one where a daughterboard uses a couple I/O = lines on the JCX and the carrier wave is generated on the fly. This = would allow one to write programs for the JCX that could not only = control an RCX, but also any consumer IR device. The phototrans could = be used to record custom signals like a learning remote. A better solution would be one where a daughterboard uses a couple I/O lines on the JCX and the carrier wave is generated on the fly. This would allow one to write programs for the JCX that could not only control an RCX, but also any consumer IR device. The phototrans could be used to record custom signals like a learning remote. 38,39c39,40 >=20 >=20 > > 43,48c44,49 > >I have a USB infrared tower that came with the Mindstorm=20 > kit, and recently=20 > >got an older laptop without USB (for free). I haven't seen=20 > the RS-232=20 > >infrared towers for sale, and was wondering if anyone has=20 > made a serial=20 > >I have a USB infrared tower that came with the Mindstorm > kit, and recently > >got an older laptop without USB (for free). I haven't seen > the RS-232 > >infrared towers for sale, and was wondering if anyone has > made a serial 50,54c51,55 >=20 > Rob Limbaugh was just communicating with me about that. It=20 > should be pretty=20 > easy, and I think some of the Lego references have schematics=20 > or at least a=20 > > Rob Limbaugh was just communicating with me about that. It > should be pretty > easy, and I think some of the Lego references have schematics > or at least a 56,57c57,58 >=20 > We'd like to see such a circuit from JCX so that a JCX can=20 > > We'd like to see such a circuit from JCX so that a JCX can 59,60c60,61 >=20 > We will give a $100 gift certificate to someone who produces=20 > > We will give a $100 gift certificate to someone who produces 62c63 >=20 > 64,65c65,66 >=20 >=20 > > 69,73c70,73 > +1-801-534-1017 Salt Lake City, USA=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > +1-801-534-1017 Salt Lake City, USA > > >
lugnet.robotics:20331 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 My WIRRL project (http://abs-robotics.com/projects/wirrl.htm) is being = based around a 555 for power consumption reasons. My WIRRL project (http://abs-robotics.com/projects/wirrl.htm) is being based around a 555 for power consumption reasons. 23,30c24,31 As I mentioned earlier, if a phototransistor was used as the IR = detector, then one could pulse the IR LED's directly from a port through = a high-speed/power transistor. This would allow all protocols and = carrier wave creation/detection to be handled through softare. The end result would be a device that uses minimal parts and can = communicate with virtually anything from one "IR port", as long as the = sample/playback frequencies were high enough. As I mentioned earlier, if a phototransistor was used as the IR detector, then one could pulse the IR LED's directly from a port through a high-speed/power transistor. This would allow all protocols and carrier wave creation/detection to be handled through softare. The end result would be a device that uses minimal parts and can communicate with virtually anything from one "IR port", as long as the sample/playback frequencies were high enough. 44,45c45,46 >=20 >=20 > > 49c50 > that is compatible with uC output (i.e. before inversion) if=20 > that is compatible with uC output (i.e. before inversion) if 51c52 > interested. It uses a few too many discrete parts as it=20 > interested. It uses a few too many discrete parts as it 54c55 >=20 > 56c57 >=20 > 58c59 >=20 > 61c62 > > Substitute the TSOP-1140 for TSOP-1138. The Max232 chip=20 > > Substitute the TSOP-1140 for TSOP-1138. The Max232 chip 64c65 > > All the remaining parts are items that can be ordered right=20 > > All the remaining parts are items that can be ordered right 67,71c68,72 > > A better solution would be one where a daughterboard uses a=20 > couple I/O lines on the JCX and the carrier wave is generated=20 > on the fly. This would allow one to write programs for the=20 > JCX that could not only control an RCX, but also any consumer=20 > IR device. The phototrans could be used to record custom=20 > > A better solution would be one where a daughterboard uses a > couple I/O lines on the JCX and the carrier wave is generated > on the fly. This would allow one to write programs for the > JCX that could not only control an RCX, but also any consumer > IR device. The phototrans could be used to record custom 90c91 > > > >circuit that mimics the tower that I can make for use on=20 > > > >circuit that mimics the tower that I can make for use on 115,116c116 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics:20337 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 14 Lines: 12 20,24c21,24 maybe just a stupid question, but how can I use functions defined in = libc? I wanted to use the vsnprintf(..) function in printf.c, but when I = include it in my program, the compiler tells me first "implicit = declaration of function 'vsnprintf'" and then, while linking: "undefined = reference to `_vsnprintf'" ... maybe just a stupid question, but how can I use functions defined in libc? I wanted to use the vsnprintf(..) function in printf.c, but when I include it in my program, the compiler tells me first "implicit declaration of function 'vsnprintf'" and then, while linking: "undefined reference to `_vsnprintf'" ... 26,27c26 I'm still using legOS-0.2.4 (you know, never touch a working = configuration :-) I'm still using legOS-0.2.4 (you know, never touch a working configuration :-) 32d30
lugnet.robotics:20349 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 32 19c20 Hy to all,=20 Hy to all, 21,22c22 i was just trying to do a robot which can help me and my friends in the = lab i was just trying to do a robot which can help me and my friends in the lab 25,28c25,26 pendulum makes 20 go and back from right to left (you know what a mean). = Now it's a repetitive, precision and boring task. So a thought why not = telling pendulum makes 20 go and back from right to left (you know what a mean). Now it's a repetitive, precision and boring task. So a thought why not telling 31,32c29 I put a light back to the pendulum and the brick with the light sensor = in I put a light back to the pendulum and the brick with the light sensor in 35,36c32 I setted and up Event to react when the pendulum cover the light beam = and I setted and up Event to react when the pendulum cover the light beam and 44c40 This is what a first written in BricxCC, BUT, i'm getting a:=20 This is what a first written in BricxCC, BUT, i'm getting a: 48c44 What does this mean ?=20 What does this mean ? 50,51c46 And do you have any other suggestion on how to have better readings of = the And do you have any other suggestion on how to have better readings of the 57,58d51
lugnet.robotics:20367 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18 Lines: 30 Brian = Lines: 24 20a20 Brian 24,25c24 > It's counter-intuitive to me. Does the increased angular momentum make = it > It's counter-intuitive to me. Does the increased angular momentum make it 33,34c32 The higher angular momentum (or, rather, moment of intertia) means that i= t The higher angular momentum (or, rather, moment of intertia) means that it 36,37c34 their job. I suspect that it's the motor that is the limiting factor - th= e their job. I suspect that it's the motor that is the limiting factor - the 40,41c37 Try balancing a broom-handle on your finger: easy. = Try balancing a broom-handle on your finger: easy. 44,45c40 that fast. Once you see the pencil falling over, you nervous system takes= that fast. Once you see the pencil falling over, you nervous system takes 49d43
lugnet.robotics:20388 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Greetings to you in the name of Almighty God=2E Greetings to you in the name of Almighty God. 21c22 I am Mrs=2E Mariam Abacha=2C a Muslim and the widow of Late I am Mrs. Mariam Abacha, a Muslim and the widow of Late 23c24 Head of State =28General Sani Abacha=29=2E You were introduced Head of State (General Sani Abacha). You were introduced 25c26 my third daughter=2C Rafia who got your e-mail address and my third daughter, Rafia who got your e-mail address and 27c28 from the Internet=2E from the Internet. 31c32 =28Kano State=29 while my son Mohamed Sani has been undergoing (Kano State) while my son Mohamed Sani has been undergoing 34,35c35,36 =28FCT=29=2C Abuja=2C he was detained in prison custody in Lagos state (FCT), Abuja, he was detained in prison custody in Lagos state 37c38 =284=29 years=2C but thank God he was finally granted freedom on (4) years, but thank God he was finally granted freedom on 39c40 of July=2C 2002 after persistent pressure from my attorney of July, 2002 after persistent pressure from my attorney 41c42 right activists=2E right activists. 45,46c46,47 properties=2E To save the family from total bankruptcy=2C I have managed properties. To save the family from total bankruptcy, I have managed 48c49 some fund=2Fmoney out of the country for safety through a some fund/money out of the country for safety through a 50c51 company=2C the sum of US$20=2C000=2C000=2E00 precisely=2E My late company, the sum of US$20,000,000.00 precisely. My late 52c53 s family attorney assisted us to achieve this=2E The money s family attorney assisted us to achieve this. The money 56c57 security company with a coded name in London=2E security company with a coded name in London. 59c60 the family's safe keep in case I die while in castration=2C the family's safe keep in case I die while in castration, 61c62 the only Assets and Legacy left for the family=2E the only Assets and Legacy left for the family. 65,66c66,67 it is located by the Nigerian Government security Agents=2E Honestly=2C it is located by the Nigerian Government security Agents. Honestly, 68c69 government=2C government, 73,75c74,76 newspapers=3B www=2Enewswatchngr=2Ecom and www=2Ethisdayonline=2Ecom=2C click the Archive=2F2001=2FMarch 2001=2FThursday March 1st=2E Kindly newspapers; www.newswatchngr.com and www.thisdayonline.com, click the Archive/2001/March 2001/Thursday March 1st. Kindly 79,90c80,81 contact information=2E God bless you=2E Mrs=2E Mariam Abacha=2E contact information. God bless you. 91a83 Mrs. Mariam Abacha.
lugnet.robotics:20401 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 49 Lines: 45 18,28c19,29 And DO NOT forget to see the releasing of a new film production: it will= definitely destroy your hopes for peace and everlasting life on earth:= "The AmBush I" : the scam to get petrol control where a president of an= imperialist country madly manages to get control of petrol and wants the= help of all other nations to promote the destruction of human lifes and= become even more powerful... Soon a new film production: "The AmBush II : In The Amazon Forest" : where= the same MADDOG president of the imperialist nation plans to get control= over Amazon Forest. Lizards, oligators and exotic birds in the screen!!!= Next September 11th! DO NOT miss it if you survive The AmBush I! And DO NOT forget to see the releasing of a new film production: it will definitely destroy your hopes for peace and everlasting life on earth: "The AmBush I" : the scam to get petrol control where a president of an imperialist country madly manages to get control of petrol and wants the help of all other nations to promote the destruction of human lifes and become even more powerful... Soon a new film production: "The AmBush II : In The Amazon Forest" : where the same MADDOG president of the imperialist nation plans to get control over Amazon Forest. Lizards, oligators and exotic birds in the screen!!! Next September 11th! DO NOT miss it if you survive The AmBush I! 32c33 Enviada em: segunda-feira, 17 de mar=E7o de 2003 05:31 Enviada em: segunda-feira, 17 de março de 2003 05:31 57,65c58,62 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Esta mensagem e uma correspondencia reservada. Se voce a recebeu por= engano, por favor desconsidere-a.=20 O sistema de mensagens da Internet nao e considerado seguro ou livre de= erros. Esta instituicao nao se ====================================================================================================== Esta mensagem e uma correspondencia reservada. Se voce a recebeu por engano, por favor desconsidere-a. O sistema de mensagens da Internet nao e considerado seguro ou livre de erros. Esta instituicao nao se 67d63
lugnet.robotics:20424 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 21 Lines: 20 29c30 >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=3DHonken >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=Honken 31,32c32 any chance of using a standard codec that is Quicktime compatible. As a = mac any chance of using a standard codec that is Quicktime compatible. As a mac 39d38
lugnet.robotics:20425 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 45 Lines: 36 22,24c23,24 I can see one benefit to having the sensors on one side... it could = stand up on it's own. Not sure how that could be done with one sensor = on each side. I can see one benefit to having the sensors on one side... it could stand up on it's own. Not sure how that could be done with one sensor on each side. 26,27c26,27 Although, now that I know it *can* be done with hardware I already own, = I can try it out myself! Although, now that I know it *can* be done with hardware I already own, I can try it out myself! 40,45c40,42 I short time ago I saw Steve Hassenplug's site about that amazing LegWay = of his. I wanted to duplicate what he had done but I didn't have the funds = to buy those EOPD's that he used so I went ahead and tried to build one = with I short time ago I saw Steve Hassenplug's site about that amazing LegWay of his. I wanted to duplicate what he had done but I didn't have the funds to buy those EOPD's that he used so I went ahead and tried to build one with 49,54c46,48 I used two ordinary light sensors from LEGO and put one in the front = and one in the back of the robot. It works just fine. It doesn't spin or = follow a line or anything like that just yet but I think that is just around = the I used two ordinary light sensors from LEGO and put one in the front and one in the back of the robot. It works just fine. It doesn't spin or follow a line or anything like that just yet but I think that is just around the 57,60c51,52 Of course I have proof of my creation. I just don't have a website to = post it on so if you want to see it you'll just have to e-mail me or = someting. Of course I have proof of my creation. I just don't have a website to post it on so if you want to see it you'll just have to e-mail me or someting. 63d54
lugnet.robotics:20429 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 33,38c34 "Che cos'e' il genio? Fantasia, intuizione, precisione e velocita' d'esec= uzione" "Che cos'e' il genio? Fantasia, intuizione, precisione e velocita' d'esecuzione"
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lugnet.robotics:20462 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 37 24c25 On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Alberto [iso-8859-1] Sim=F5es/EPL wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Alberto [iso-8859-1] Simões/EPL wrote: 27,29c28,29 > Anybody knows where can I find a USB IR-tower for the Invention System 1.= 5? >=20 > Anybody knows where can I find a USB IR-tower for the Invention System 1.5? > 32c32 > --=20 > -- 34c34 >=20 > 37c37 >=20 > 40,41c40,41 Mark=20 (NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBERS)=20 Mark (NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBERS) 49,52c49,52 SCOCA MAIN INFO=20 South Central Ohio Computer Association=20 175 Beaver Creek Road (PO Box 577)=20 Piketon, Ohio 45661=20 SCOCA MAIN INFO South Central Ohio Computer Association 175 Beaver Creek Road (PO Box 577) Piketon, Ohio 45661 55,58c55,56 740.289.2908=20 740.289.2082 (fax)=20 740.289.2908 740.289.2082 (fax)
lugnet.robotics:20463 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 40 Lines: 39 21c22 http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=3Dpraetorian&itemID=3D1258361 http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=praetorian&itemID=1258361 26c27 On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Alberto [iso-8859-1] Sim=F5es/EPL wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Alberto [iso-8859-1] Simões/EPL wrote: 29,31c30,31 > Anybody knows where can I find a USB IR-tower for the Invention System 1.= 5? >=20 > Anybody knows where can I find a USB IR-tower for the Invention System 1.5? > 34c34 > --=20 > -- 36c36 >=20 > 39c39 >=20 > 42,43c42,43 Mark=20 (NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBERS)=20 Mark (NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBERS) 51,54c51,54 SCOCA MAIN INFO=20 South Central Ohio Computer Association=20 175 Beaver Creek Road (PO Box 577)=20 Piketon, Ohio 45661=20 SCOCA MAIN INFO South Central Ohio Computer Association 175 Beaver Creek Road (PO Box 577) Piketon, Ohio 45661 57,60c57,58 740.289.2908=20 740.289.2082 (fax)=20 740.289.2908 740.289.2082 (fax)
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lugnet.robotics:20473 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 34 Lines: 33 19c20 Alberto Sim=F5es/EPL wrote: Alberto Simões/EPL wrote: 21c22 > |=20 > | 23,25c24,26 > |=20 > | http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=3Dpraetorian&itemID=3D1258361 >=20 > | > | http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=praetorian&itemID=1258361 > 29,30c30,31 > | > Anybody knows where can I find a USB IR-tower for the Invention Sys= tem 1.5? > | > Anybody knows where can I find a USB IR-tower for the Invention System > 1.5? 39,40c40 the standard LEGO software, you'll probably need to get the 2.0 software.= the standard LEGO software, you'll probably need to get the 2.0 software. 50,51c50,51 GCS d-- s:+ a+ C++++$ UL+++$ P--- L++++$ E--- W+++ N o+ K? w--- !O M- V--= PS++ PE- Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X R+++ tv b++ DI++ D G+ e++ h--(-) r+++ y++++ GCS d-- s:+ a+ C++++$ UL+++$ P--- L++++$ E--- W+++ N o+ K? w--- !O M- V-- PS++ PE- Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X R+++ tv b++ DI++ D G+ e++ h--(-) r+++ y++++ 53,54d52
lugnet.robotics:20492 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 31 Lines: 29 18,26c19,26 Externally, the visual difference between the RCX in RIS 1.0 and RIS 1.5 = is the power jack (or lack thereof). The RCX in RIS 2.0 is marked "RCX = 2.0", whereas the RCX's with RIS 1.0 and 1.5 are both labeled "RCX 1.0". Internally, the circuit boards are very different between the first two = RCX's. I do not have an RCX from RIS 2.0, so I do not know how that RCX = differs from the previous versions. Hopefully someone who has all three = could take some internal shots and maybe do some power consumption tests = between the versions. Externally, the visual difference between the RCX in RIS 1.0 and RIS 1.5 is the power jack (or lack thereof). The RCX in RIS 2.0 is marked "RCX 2.0", whereas the RCX's with RIS 1.0 and 1.5 are both labeled "RCX 1.0". Internally, the circuit boards are very different between the first two RCX's. I do not have an RCX from RIS 2.0, so I do not know how that RCX differs from the previous versions. Hopefully someone who has all three could take some internal shots and maybe do some power consumption tests between the versions. 28,29c28,29 In terms of software, the 2.0 firmware works fine on the RCX's from RIS = 1.0 and 1.5. In terms of software, the 2.0 firmware works fine on the RCX's from RIS 1.0 and 1.5. 42,43c42 Are there any electronic differences between the 1.0 and 2.0 RCX bricks, = or Are there any electronic differences between the 1.0 and 2.0 RCX bricks, or 49,50d47
lugnet.robotics:20547 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 34c35 From: Teoman Naskali [mailto:tnaskali@gsu.edu.tr]=20 From: Teoman Naskali [mailto:tnaskali@gsu.edu.tr] 67d67
lugnet.robotics:20677 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 http://www.winisp.net/natenez/RCX1_5/spiritdotnet.htm=20 http://www.winisp.net/natenez/RCX1_5/spiritdotnet.htm 30c31 From: Diego Colombo [mailto:guyver1@netfarm.it]=20 From: Diego Colombo [mailto:guyver1@netfarm.it] 40d40
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:115 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 40 Lines: 29 20,21c21 > = > 23,24c23 > = > 27,28c26 > IC shouldn't boot with a motor on -- try reloading the pcode. Anyone = > IC shouldn't boot with a motor on -- try reloading the pcode. Anyone 31,34c29,30 The beta IC v3.1b2.1 for the Macintosh had a problem where the motor = ports came up running. It was fixed in version 3.1b3 and subsequent = The beta IC v3.1b2.1 for the Macintosh had a problem where the motor ports came up running. It was fixed in version 3.1b3 and subsequent 39,42c35,36 I would recommend that everyone places nylon washers on the 4 screws on = the Handy Board. I didn't have a problem, but I don't recommend = I would recommend that everyone places nylon washers on the 4 screws on the Handy Board. I didn't have a problem, but I don't recommend 45,48c39,40 I would also love to see a redesigned charger board with a Maxim MAX713 = NiCad charger chip. This would prevent possibly overcharging the = I would also love to see a redesigned charger board with a Maxim MAX713 NiCad charger chip. This would prevent possibly overcharging the 51,54c43,44 Just my 2=A2. = -- = Just my 2¢. -- 59,60d48
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:192 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18,20 I would rather have use of the 0 to 8 range because many of the values = in the 0 to 100 range simply fall into groups which give only 9 speeds. = However, I do not support rewriting the IC code. Tom's suggestion, = I would rather have use of the 0 to 8 range because many of the values in the 0 to 100 range simply fall into groups which give only 9 speeds. However, I do not support rewriting the IC code. Tom's suggestion, 48,49d48
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:273 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,20c18,21 The Robotics Practitioner (trp@footfalls.com has part 1 of an article = about this in the Fall, 1995 edition by Bavid Musliner = (musliner@src.honeywell.com) and Rick Moll (rick@footfalls.com). Part = one is concepts; part 2 will present detailed design. =20 The Robotics Practitioner (trp@footfalls.com has part 1 of an article about this in the Fall, 1995 edition by Bavid Musliner (musliner@src.honeywell.com) and Rick Moll (rick@footfalls.com). Part one is concepts; part 2 will present detailed design. 31,32c32,33 Speaking of Polaroid ultrasonic sensors, does anyone know if there's a = product out there that can multiplex a few of the sensors? Speaking of Polaroid ultrasonic sensors, does anyone know if there's a product out there that can multiplex a few of the sensors? 35,39d35
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:275 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 37 Lines: 31 17,22c18 The Robotics Practitioner is a magazine about robotics targeted more = for students and hobbyists than many of the professional Journals. = Their email address is: trp@footfalls.com. Other two email addresses = in the previous messge are the articlel's authors'. From my = subscription, I'd have say they are meeting their goal. In fact, Fred = Martin wrote an article about LEGO tips for the spring '95 edition.=20 The Robotics Practitioner is a magazine about robotics targeted more for students and hobbyists than many of the professional Journals. Their email address is: trp@footfalls.com. Other two email addresses in the previous messge are the articlel's authors'. From my subscription, I'd have say they are meeting their goal. In fact, Fred Martin wrote an article about LEGO tips for the spring '95 edition. 31,32c27,28 Yeah! This would help alot! Who is trp@footfalls.com? Is this person = someone who posted the article once in handyboard mailing list? Yeah! This would help alot! Who is trp@footfalls.com? Is this person someone who posted the article once in handyboard mailing list? 34c30 >=20 > 36,40c32,35 > about this in the Fall, 1995 edition by Bavid Musliner=20 > (musliner@src.honeywell.com) and Rick Moll (rick@footfalls.com). Part = > one is concepts; part 2 will present detailed design.=20 >=20 > about this in the Fall, 1995 edition by Bavid Musliner > (musliner@src.honeywell.com) and Rick Moll (rick@footfalls.com). Part > one is concepts; part 2 will present detailed design. > 42c37 >=20 > 49c44 >=20 > 52c47 >=20 > 54,55d48
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:591 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 17,18c18,19 The FAQ has information on sending and receiving info thru the serial = port. My Question is: How do I do the other end in C. The FAQ has information on sending and receiving info thru the serial port. My Question is: How do I do the other end in C. 22,23c23 port =3D open("/dev/ttyS3",O_RDWD); <- THis is from my head, not exact = code. port = open("/dev/ttyS3",O_RDWD); <- THis is from my head, not exact code. 30c30 port =3D the serial device port = the serial device 34,35c34,35 Now how can I make the communications work?, is this code even headed in = the right direction????, any comments would be greatly appreciated. Now how can I make the communications work?, is this code even headed in the right direction????, any comments would be greatly appreciated. 39,41d38
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1273 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 49c50 from straight on to about 45=B0. The 555 drives the IR led directly. The from straight on to about 45°. The 555 drives the IR led directly. The 69,71d69
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1315 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 27c28 much voltage so use at least 1 M=87 for better range. If you can get a much voltage so use at least 1 M‡ for better range. If you can get a 39,41d39
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1361 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18,20 I just wanted to ask ... in case I charge the HB battery to its maximum, = and then just leave it there to rest ... how long can I expect the = battery to be charged ???=20 I just wanted to ask ... in case I charge the HB battery to its maximum, and then just leave it there to rest ... how long can I expect the battery to be charged ??? 23,24d23
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1425 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Hi - I am new to this list but the archive indicates some=20 interest in driving stepper motors on the HB so here is my=20 Hi - I am new to this list but the archive indicates some interest in driving stepper motors on the HB so here is my 27c28 =DD Ý 29c30 =DD =DD =DD =DD Ý Ý Ý Ý 33c34 =DD =DD =DD =DD Ý Ý Ý Ý 67c68 the other way.=20 the other way. 78,79c79,80 delay =3D (long)knob(); /* if (delay < 1L) delay =3D 1L;*/ delay = (long)knob(); /* if (delay < 1L) delay = 1L;*/ 116,118d116
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1433 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 28,29c29,30 --=20 Jes=FAs Recuenco -- Jesús Recuenco 31d31
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1449 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 32,33c33,34 --=20 Jes=FAs Recuenco -- Jesús Recuenco 35d35
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1473 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 17,19c18,19 Yesterday I tried to run a motor out of the HB. First I tried how much = current it needed with a multimeter and a 5V power source ... The result = 75mA.=20 Yesterday I tried to run a motor out of the HB. First I tried how much current it needed with a multimeter and a 5V power source ... The result 75mA. 21,28c21,28 When I tried to run the motor from the HB, after turning on the motor at = low speed (motor (0,20);) to make sure I wasn't sending to much current = through the motor drivers, the motor ran for a second and then the HB = power led lighted and the board was reset. Is that a sign that the power the motor needs is much higher than the HB = can supply. In this case I would expect the motor drivers to burn, but = not to cause the HB to reset. When I tried to run the motor from the HB, after turning on the motor at low speed (motor (0,20);) to make sure I wasn't sending to much current through the motor drivers, the motor ran for a second and then the HB power led lighted and the board was reset. Is that a sign that the power the motor needs is much higher than the HB can supply. In this case I would expect the motor drivers to burn, but not to cause the HB to reset. 34d33
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1597 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 38,39c39,40 for a reflection. The onto the next LED. I can get a sweep from -60=B0 to 60=B0 this way. for a reflection. The onto the next LED. I can get a sweep from -60° to 60° this way. 78,80d78
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1609 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 79 Lines: 74 28,29c29,30 >=20 >=20 > > 43,44c44,45 >=20 >=20 > > 46,47c47 > Digi-key that has a side view, and five IR LED's spread around the front = of > Digi-key that has a side view, and five IR LED's spread around the front of 50,55c50,54 > for a reflection. The onto the next LED. I can get a sweep from -60=B0 = to > 60=B0 this way. >=20 >=20 >=20 > for a reflection. The onto the next LED. I can get a sweep from -60° to > 60° this way. > > > 67c66 >=20 > 69,73c68,70 >=20 > Works pretty damn good. Adjust the LED current and you get a range from = a > few inches to a few feet. Increase the current through the side LED's an= d > > Works pretty damn good. Adjust the LED current and you get a range from a > few inches to a few feet. Increase the current through the side LED's and 75,77c72,73 >=20 > I said a couple weeks ago that I would post a schematic and PCB pattern f= or > > I said a couple weeks ago that I would post a schematic and PCB pattern for 82c78 >=20 > 84c80 >=20 > 86,88c82,84 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > 94,97c90,92 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1643 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 58 Lines: 40 20,25c21,23 i have a problem with my handyboard, but i can=B4t explain it in english = (because it=B4s a little bit to difficult for me :) do you understand = german ?! = i have a problem with my handyboard, but i can´t explain it in english (because it´s a little bit to difficult for me :) do you understand german ?! 29,30c27 Ich benutze zwei DC-Motoren und habe sie am Motorport 0 + 1 = Ich benutze zwei DC-Motoren und habe sie am Motorport 0 + 1 32,51c29,37 Mit dem Befehel "motor(0,50);" l=E4uft der Motor(*1) an Port 0 = problemlos versuche ich das gleiche mit meinem zweiten Motor(*2) dreht = dieser nicht (er brummt nur) (tausche ich Motor 0 (*1) mit Motor 1 = (*2) dann funktioniert der zweite Motor (*2) an Port 0 nicht). = Die Pulsregulierung mittels "motor (x,y)" mit den werten von -100 bis = +100 funktioniert nicht einwandfrei. Der Motor kann zwar vorw=E4rts und = r=FCckw=E4rtslaufen, aber eine feine Abstufung zwischen den Werten ist = kaum m=F6glich. Ich habe mittlerweile mehrere Motoren ausprobiert. Leider funktioniert = nur mein erster Motor. Das gleiche Problem habe ich auch mit = Mit dem Befehel "motor(0,50);" läuft der Motor(*1) an Port 0 problemlos versuche ich das gleiche mit meinem zweiten Motor(*2) dreht dieser nicht (er brummt nur) (tausche ich Motor 0 (*1) mit Motor 1 (*2) dann funktioniert der zweite Motor (*2) an Port 0 nicht). Die Pulsregulierung mittels "motor (x,y)" mit den werten von -100 bis +100 funktioniert nicht einwandfrei. Der Motor kann zwar vorwärts und rückwärtslaufen, aber eine feine Abstufung zwischen den Werten ist kaum möglich. 52a39,40 Ich habe mittlerweile mehrere Motoren ausprobiert. Leider funktioniert nur mein erster Motor. Das gleiche Problem habe ich auch mit 55,65c43,47 Meine beiden 12V DC-Motoren (*1 + *2) haben beide ein Getriebe. Lasse = ich beide Motoren direkt mit 6-12V laufen, kann ich den Motor nicht = mehr anhalten. L=E4uft aber der Motor =FCber mein HandyBoard, hat er = =FCberhaupt keine Kraft mehr. Ich kann den Motor selbst bei voller = Pulsh=F6he (100) ohne weiteres festhalten. Was mache ich falsch - oder gibt es nur bestimmte Motoren die = Meine beiden 12V DC-Motoren (*1 + *2) haben beide ein Getriebe. Lasse ich beide Motoren direkt mit 6-12V laufen, kann ich den Motor nicht mehr anhalten. Läuft aber der Motor über mein HandyBoard, hat er überhaupt keine Kraft mehr. Ich kann den Motor selbst bei voller Pulshöhe (100) ohne weiteres festhalten. 66a49 Was mache ich falsch - oder gibt es nur bestimmte Motoren die 76d58
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1645 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 33 Lines: 32 20,23c21,23 > i have a problem with my handyboard, but i can=B4t explain it in englis= h=20 > (because it=B4s a little bit to difficult for me :) do you understand=20 > german ?!=20 > i have a problem with my handyboard, but i can´t explain it in english > (because it´s a little bit to difficult for me :) do you understand > german ?! 27,29c27,29 > Mit dem Befehel "motor(0,50);" l=E4uft der Motor(*1) an Port 0=20 > problemlos versuche ich das gleiche mit meinem zweiten Motor(*2) dreht=20 > dieser nicht (er brummt nur) (tausche ich Motor 0 (*1) mit Motor 1=20 > Mit dem Befehel "motor(0,50);" läuft der Motor(*1) an Port 0 > problemlos versuche ich das gleiche mit meinem zweiten Motor(*2) dreht > dieser nicht (er brummt nur) (tausche ich Motor 0 (*1) mit Motor 1 33,34c33,34 > Ich habe mittlerweile mehrere Motoren ausprobiert. Leider funktioniert=20 > nur mein erster Motor. Das gleiche Problem habe ich auch mit=20 > Ich habe mittlerweile mehrere Motoren ausprobiert. Leider funktioniert > nur mein erster Motor. Das gleiche Problem habe ich auch mit 40c40 > Was mache ich falsch - oder gibt es nur bestimmte Motoren die=20 > Was mache ich falsch - oder gibt es nur bestimmte Motoren die 47c47 --=20 -- 52d51
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1683 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,23c18,24 When I make programs with IC manipulating chars or char arrays, I have = used pointers and after I get the memory addresses as reference. In your = case you can get the address of the char with & and the content with = peek and after subtract till the number desired. But right now I'm remembering that there are same functions like = ((int)(long)value) or something similar that is easier of use. Look in = the source of LIB_HB.C there were something of that.=20 When I make programs with IC manipulating chars or char arrays, I have used pointers and after I get the memory addresses as reference. In your case you can get the address of the char with & and the content with peek and after subtract till the number desired. But right now I'm remembering that there are same functions like ((int)(long)value) or something similar that is easier of use. Look in the source of LIB_HB.C there were something of that. 25c26 Rick Hormigo. =20 Rick Hormigo. 42,44d42
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1684 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 24 Lines: 22 17,21c18,22 I suppose that if you got the HB and write in this mail list you know = the HB web. Just in case get http: = //el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board. There you have = the a complete guide that how assembly, check, etc.. is a file in = Acrobat PDF format with more than 100 pages. I suppose that if you got the HB and write in this mail list you know the HB web. Just in case get http: //el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board. There you have the a complete guide that how assembly, check, etc.. is a file in Acrobat PDF format with more than 100 pages. 23c24 =20 33,36c34,35 I just got my handyboard in the mail today, and am ready to start = playing!=20 Can any of you tell me if there is a reference somewhere that explains = how I just got my handyboard in the mail today, and am ready to start playing! Can any of you tell me if there is a reference somewhere that explains how 41,43d39
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1685 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 33 Lines: 31 17,29c18,29 Hi this is Rick Hormigo from Southern Mississippi University, and I'm = new in this list and this is my answer for the question about ZTX614. = I'm foreigner, so I'm sorry for my English !!! The only one very famous darlinton for medium power that I know is the = BDX53. You can do this work in the same place that the ZTX614 but there = are two problems: the BDX is twice bigger (something like the power = regulator 7805) and the pins are different. If you see it to the front = and =20 from left to right the pins are B C E .=20 I don't know how many power the ZTX 614 support, but the BDX are going = to support quite more than the power supply of the HB can give. (till = 8A- 60W !!!!)=20 Hi this is Rick Hormigo from Southern Mississippi University, and I'm new in this list and this is my answer for the question about ZTX614. I'm foreigner, so I'm sorry for my English !!! The only one very famous darlinton for medium power that I know is the BDX53. You can do this work in the same place that the ZTX614 but there are two problems: the BDX is twice bigger (something like the power regulator 7805) and the pins are different. If you see it to the front and from left to right the pins are B C E . I don't know how many power the ZTX 614 support, but the BDX are going to support quite more than the power supply of the HB can give. (till 8A- 60W !!!!) 45,46c45 Can I substitute a different transistor? If so, which one(s) would = work? Can I substitute a different transistor? If so, which one(s) would work? 50,54d48
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1703 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 22 Lines: 20 17,36c18,35 Hi, I'm using a very old freeware version of ICC11 for my miniboard = programs. According to the documentation files that I have, it's from = 1993. Is there a more recent version of a C compiler that I can use for = my miniboard programs, maybe one that is free or at least inexpensive = and produces more compact code? If so, where do I get it? What do all = you miniboard gurus out there use? My other question concerns the length of the iccout.s19 file I get from = the compiler. I am under the impression that my miniboard with its 6811 = microcontroller has 2048 bytes of available space, but the iccout.s19 = file is 3052 bytes in length, but dlm.exe reports that the file was = downloaded successfully, and it runs perfectly! What gives? Where's = the rest of the program getting stored? And finally, I would like to adjust the pwm code table in the header = file, so that I can use the same function to control stepper motors = attached to the same port that the DC motor controllers are attached, = but I'm not sure how to do this. Do I simply modify the miniboard.h = file, or the miniboard.s file? Or do I have to do something to the crt.s = file?=20 Hi, I'm using a very old freeware version of ICC11 for my miniboard programs. According to the documentation files that I have, it's from 1993. Is there a more recent version of a C compiler that I can use for my miniboard programs, maybe one that is free or at least inexpensive and produces more compact code? If so, where do I get it? What do all you miniboard gurus out there use? My other question concerns the length of the iccout.s19 file I get from the compiler. I am under the impression that my miniboard with its 6811 microcontroller has 2048 bytes of available space, but the iccout.s19 file is 3052 bytes in length, but dlm.exe reports that the file was downloaded successfully, and it runs perfectly! What gives? Where's the rest of the program getting stored? And finally, I would like to adjust the pwm code table in the header file, so that I can use the same function to control stepper motors attached to the same port that the DC motor controllers are attached, but I'm not sure how to do this. Do I simply modify the miniboard.h file, or the miniboard.s file? Or do I have to do something to the crt.s file? 39,40d37
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1712 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 =20 21,23c22,24 =20 >When I try to use the system time as part of an expression=20 >in an if-else statement I get an error message while=20 >When I try to use the system time as part of an expression >in an if-else statement I get an error message while 25c26 =20 27,28c28,29 =20 >Is there any way of getting system time values into a=20 >Is there any way of getting system time values into a 31,37c32,38 =20 =20 =20 As a tips to using "seconds()" and "cast" I send one of my=20 first program i C.=20 =20 Some time in the future I will build a weatherstation using=20 As a tips to using "seconds()" and "cast" I send one of my first program i C. Some time in the future I will build a weatherstation using 39c40 =20 42,45c43,46 =20 =20 void main (void)=20 =20 void main (void) 54c55 =20 56,58c57,59 int sek =3D0; int min =3D0; int tim=3D 0; int sek =0; int min =0; int tim= 0; 60,61c61,62 float nutim=3D00.0; float numin=3D00.0; float nutim=00.0; float numin=00.0; 66,75c67,76 while (start_button()) =20 {numin=3Dnumin+10.0; /* set time in 10 min. */ slask=3D(seconds()+(nutim*3600.0)+(numin*60.0))/3600.0; tim=3D(int)slask; =20 slask=3D(slask-(float)tim)*3600.0; slask=3Dslask/60.0; min=3D(int)slask; slask=3D(slask-(float)min)*60.0; sek=3D(int)slask; while (start_button()) {numin=numin+10.0; /* set time in 10 min. */ slask=(seconds()+(nutim*3600.0)+(numin*60.0))/3600.0; tim=(int)slask; slask=(slask-(float)tim)*3600.0; slask=slask/60.0; min=(int)slask; slask=(slask-(float)min)*60.0; sek=(int)slask; 80c81 while (!start_button()) /* push stopbutton to run=20 while (!start_button()) /* push stopbutton to run 82,88c83,89 {slask=3D(seconds()+(nutim*3600.0)+(numin*60.0))/3600.0; tim=3D(int)slask; slask=3D(slask-(float)tim)*3600.0; slask=3Dslask/60.0; min=3D(int)slask; slask=3D(slask-(float)min)*60.0; sek=3D(int)slask; {slask=(seconds()+(nutim*3600.0)+(numin*60.0))/3600.0; tim=(int)slask; slask=(slask-(float)tim)*3600.0; slask=slask/60.0; min=(int)slask; slask=(slask-(float)min)*60.0; sek=(int)slask; 93,94c94 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1736 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 9 Lines: 8 18,23c19,23 Thanks a lot for your help.I had already thought that it could be the = board running out of resources that caused the problem but I am not very = experienced with programing.I agree with your improvements on the = program and will implement them in my future variations.Thank you very = much.One more question,does casting work with variables or can I only = cast using constants? Thanks a lot for your help.I had already thought that it could be the board running out of resources that caused the problem but I am not very experienced with programing.I agree with your improvements on the program and will implement them in my future variations.Thank you very much.One more question,does casting work with variables or can I only cast using constants? 26,28d25
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1747 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 18,24c19,24 It turns out that we where both wrong about your program.It does not = work because the time over which d adds 1 to itself is not defined the = program does not count at a rate of one unit per millisecond.I have in = fact found that it will at least go from 10 to 10000 inside the space of = 1millisecond.In my program starting the process and defining the length = of time over which it runs I think should cause it to count one unit = per millisecond.i.e It turns out that we where both wrong about your program.It does not work because the time over which d adds 1 to itself is not defined the program does not count at a rate of one unit per millisecond.I have in fact found that it will at least go from 10 to 10000 inside the space of 1millisecond.In my program starting the process and defining the length of time over which it runs I think should cause it to count one unit per millisecond.i.e 28,30c28,30 In the above the first number following the process name(time(d)is a 1 = this defines the length of time that the process runs for.The second = number 10 defines the stack size.See page 29 in my Handy Board Manual. In the above the first number following the process name(time(d)is a 1 this defines the length of time that the process runs for.The second number 10 defines the stack size.See page 29 in my Handy Board Manual. 33,34d32
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1755 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18,20 I am still having trouble with the my program and thought that I might = ask whether there is any code or does anyone know of a way to identify = the frequency of digital square waves with the handy board. I am still having trouble with the my program and thought that I might ask whether there is any code or does anyone know of a way to identify the frequency of digital square waves with the handy board. 22,23d22
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1807 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,21c18,22 I am having trouble getting my frequency counting code to work.The = version I am posting is a sort of test and should print out a frequency = integer in Hz after approximately one second of processing.Instead what = it does is print out all the values of int d;(see code).If anyone = doesn't mind helping it would be much appreciated. I am having trouble getting my frequency counting code to work.The version I am posting is a sort of test and should print out a frequency integer in Hz after approximately one second of processing.Instead what it does is print out all the values of int d;(see code).If anyone doesn't mind helping it would be much appreciated. 29c30 a=3D(int)(seconds()*1000.); a=(int)(seconds()*1000.); 31c32 {b=3Ddigital(7); {b=digital(7); 33,36c34,37 {d+=3D1;} c=3Db; e=3D(int)(seconds()*1000.); if (e-a=3D1000) {d+=1;} c=b; e=(int)(seconds()*1000.); if (e-a=1000) 42,43d42
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1814 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 24 Lines: 23 17,23c18,23 Thankyou to Chuck and Max for the help with writing this code for = reading square wave frequencies.If anyone else can use it here it is.Be = careful though it resets the board every few seconds.I think that if = this is a problem you could probably adjust it so that this was not = necessary.This code prints out the frequency values measured on the LCD = but if you wanted you could substitute that property for one which = recorded those values as a variable. Thankyou to Chuck and Max for the help with writing this code for reading square wave frequencies.If anyone else can use it here it is.Be careful though it resets the board every few seconds.I think that if this is a problem you could probably adjust it so that this was not necessary.This code prints out the frequency values measured on the LCD but if you wanted you could substitute that property for one which recorded those values as a variable. 27c27 a=3D(int)(mseconds()); a=(int)(mseconds()); 29c29 {b=3Ddigital(7); {b=digital(7); 31,37c31,37 {d+=3D1;} c=3Db; e=3D(int)(mseconds()); if ((e-a)>=3D5000) /*5000 is just smaller than the time in milliseconds = between reset conditions*/ {d=3Dd/5; printf("%dHz\n",d);=20 {d+=1;} c=b; e=(int)(mseconds()); if ((e-a)>=5000) /*5000 is just smaller than the time in milliseconds between reset conditions*/ {d=d/5; printf("%dHz\n",d); 41,43d40
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1939 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 LCD=A0display. Suddenly poof a burst of smoke came from the analog port LCD display. Suddenly poof a burst of smoke came from the analog port 36,37d36
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1954 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 10 Lines: 9 17,18c18 I think I already posted this question some time ago but never got an = answer. I think I already posted this question some time ago but never got an answer. 20,23c20,23 Is it normal to have the HB run out of battery even when is not being = used ?? I know the battery is always working to keep the RAM from = erasing, but I'm wondering how long before the battery must be recharged = if the HB is turned off. Is it normal to have the HB run out of battery even when is not being used ?? I know the battery is always working to keep the RAM from erasing, but I'm wondering how long before the battery must be recharged if the HB is turned off. 27d26
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1970 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 10 Lines: 9 19,20c20 enable it testing the battery=B4s status and - if necessary - driving to = a enable it testing the battery´s status and - if necessary - driving to a 26c26 c) how can a secure contact be reached without harming other=20 c) how can a secure contact be reached without harming other 28d27
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:1986 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,22c18,23 A couple people have expressed interest in how to use step-motors with = their handyboards. I have used step-motors with my miniboard, and since both the handyboard = and the miniboard use two L293D chips to run the motors, I am fairly confident that the = procedure will be similar if not A couple people have expressed interest in how to use step-motors with their handyboards. I have used step-motors with my miniboard, and since both the handyboard and the miniboard use two L293D chips to run the motors, I am fairly confident that the procedure will be similar if not 24,61c25,62 To begin with, I'm sure some of you will cringe at my methods, but they = were fast and easy, as=20 well as netting me an 'A' on my senior project and a second place finish = at the 1997 Cal Poly Computer Society robot contest (given that my program had to be simple = enough to fit into 2K=20 while the winner had 32K to play with and he STILL only beat me by 34 = seconds, I don't feel too=20 bad). =20 Anyway, If you take a look at the specifications for Motorola's MC3479P = 2-phase bipolar=20 step-motor driver IC, you will find that by locking the chip in either = full or half-step mode, you can=20 supply complete control to one step-motor using two bits from the = microprocessor. Now, since the L293D IC's also use two bits to control = one motor, all you have to do is build a circuit incorporating the = step-motor drivers and connect it directly to the bits of the controller = that are currently wired to the L293D IC's, and connect the step motors, = and you are in business. Almost. There is still the problem of programming the robot to use step-motors = instead of DC motors. This turns out to be a lot easier than it seems if you are willing to = sacrifice a few motor speeds. I am using C to program my robot, and I use Chuck McManis' miniboard = library, which has 32=20 available speeds, 16 forward and 16 reverse. It turns out that if you = try using the library as=20 written, and control your motors as if they were DC motors, you will = find that there are 8 usable=20 speeds, 4 forward and 4 reverse. With the right drive train, you can = make good use of this, or if=20 you're smarter than I am, you might want to actually write software that = makes better use of the=20 step-motor's potential. =20 I simply soldered a ribbon cable to the miniboard traces between the = 6811 and the L293D and=20 left them on the board. It was handy to have the forward and reverse = led's so that I knew when=20 To begin with, I'm sure some of you will cringe at my methods, but they were fast and easy, as well as netting me an 'A' on my senior project and a second place finish at the 1997 Cal Poly Computer Society robot contest (given that my program had to be simple enough to fit into 2K while the winner had 32K to play with and he STILL only beat me by 34 seconds, I don't feel too bad). Anyway, If you take a look at the specifications for Motorola's MC3479P 2-phase bipolar step-motor driver IC, you will find that by locking the chip in either full or half-step mode, you can supply complete control to one step-motor using two bits from the microprocessor. Now, since the L293D IC's also use two bits to control one motor, all you have to do is build a circuit incorporating the step-motor drivers and connect it directly to the bits of the controller that are currently wired to the L293D IC's, and connect the step motors, and you are in business. Almost. There is still the problem of programming the robot to use step-motors instead of DC motors. This turns out to be a lot easier than it seems if you are willing to sacrifice a few motor speeds. I am using C to program my robot, and I use Chuck McManis' miniboard library, which has 32 available speeds, 16 forward and 16 reverse. It turns out that if you try using the library as written, and control your motors as if they were DC motors, you will find that there are 8 usable speeds, 4 forward and 4 reverse. With the right drive train, you can make good use of this, or if you're smarter than I am, you might want to actually write software that makes better use of the step-motor's potential. I simply soldered a ribbon cable to the miniboard traces between the 6811 and the L293D and left them on the board. It was handy to have the forward and reverse led's so that I knew when 64,65c65,66 If anyone wants me to, I can dredge up the schematic of the circuit = using the MC3479P that I=20 If anyone wants me to, I can dredge up the schematic of the circuit using the MC3479P that I 69,72d69
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2102 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,31c18,32 Some time ago I tried the use of the HB to control a RC Servo using the = single servo control software that was available in the HB web page. At = that time I made it work and everything seemed to work fine. Yesterday I tried to do it again. Unfortunately I could not remember = what the different cables of the servo were for so I just tried = different combinations (my servo has one red cable which I know id for = power, and two black ones). None of them seemed to work (and I've tried = all of them). Now I'm concerned that I may have damaged the HB. = Everything I've tried seems to work fine but the servo control. Is there something I may be missing related to the use of the software = (I remember I had trouble making it work the first time) Could I have = damaged port output 7 of the HB by connecting the servo the wrong way or = short circuiting the cables ?? Some time ago I tried the use of the HB to control a RC Servo using the single servo control software that was available in the HB web page. At that time I made it work and everything seemed to work fine. Yesterday I tried to do it again. Unfortunately I could not remember what the different cables of the servo were for so I just tried different combinations (my servo has one red cable which I know id for power, and two black ones). None of them seemed to work (and I've tried all of them). Now I'm concerned that I may have damaged the HB. Everything I've tried seems to work fine but the servo control. Is there something I may be missing related to the use of the software (I remember I had trouble making it work the first time) Could I have damaged port output 7 of the HB by connecting the servo the wrong way or short circuiting the cables ?? 37d37
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2114 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 18c19 <bold>Fred Cass,FCass=40nextwavetel.com,Internet writes: <bold>Fred Cass,FCass@nextwavetel.com,Internet writes: 20,21c21,22 </bold><x-quoted>I would also be interested in hearing if there are any ine= xpensive </bold><x-quoted>I would also be interested in hearing if there are any inexpensive 23c24 (<<=24500), easy to implement wireless comm solutions. Perhaps (<<$500), easy to implement wireless comm solutions. Perhaps 28,29c29,30 By co-incidence I was web searching last night on the very same topic, here= is what I came up with. By co-incidence I was web searching last night on the very same topic, here is what I came up with. 32,34c33,35 There is a company (Xetron Commercial Group 513.881.3264) that has an Sprea= d Spectrum Transceiver which is small and they state is inexpensive? Have a= look at - http://www.xetron.com/900xcvr.htm There is a company (Xetron Commercial Group 513.881.3264) that has an Spread Spectrum Transceiver which is small and they state is inexpensive? Have a look at - http://www.xetron.com/900xcvr.htm 37,38c38,39 For general information about Amateur Radio Spread Spectrum I would recomme= nd this website - http://www.tapr.org/ss/ For general information about Amateur Radio Spread Spectrum I would recommend this website - http://www.tapr.org/ss/ 41,43c42,43 For further Amateur Radio =7C Academic =7C Regulations =7C Organizations = =7C Commercial Spectrum links, I would suggest - http://www.tapr.org/ss/oth= er.html=23com For further Amateur Radio | Academic | Regulations | Organizations | Commercial Spectrum links, I would suggest - http://www.tapr.org/ss/other.html#com 47,52d46
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2153 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 11 Lines: 9 19,22c20,21 compass as Tom Brusehaver instructed and I spent some time going over the= schematic. It still doesn't work and I don't see any obvious problems. = I compass as Tom Brusehaver instructed and I spent some time going over the schematic. It still doesn't work and I don't see any obvious problems. I 28d26
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2164 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 27 Lines: 25 17,37c18,36 Hi, I'm planning to purchase the handyboard as a kit from Digital Mirco = System, since I'm a bit tight with money. However, I'm a bit hesitant = about assembling the kit because I have no experience at all with = soldering. =20 Can anyone recommend something I should do to get more comfortable with = soldering before I attempt to assemble the kit since I really want to = become more adept at this sort of stuff. And what type of solder should = I use? On another note, does the handyboard need some sort of heat sink?=20 Also on another note, is there any way I can add a single chip 68hc11 = computer that will work in conjunction with the handyboard besides than = having too purchase another handyboard to work together.? What I want to = do is have the handyboard control and monitor the sensors and motors so = that it can effectively move around efficiently. And have the other = microprocessor work on mapping out it's environment and model a behavior = that will best suite this environment whether it's a confined maze or = unrestricted open floor filled with varying obstacles. Hi, I'm planning to purchase the handyboard as a kit from Digital Mirco System, since I'm a bit tight with money. However, I'm a bit hesitant about assembling the kit because I have no experience at all with soldering. Can anyone recommend something I should do to get more comfortable with soldering before I attempt to assemble the kit since I really want to become more adept at this sort of stuff. And what type of solder should I use? On another note, does the handyboard need some sort of heat sink? Also on another note, is there any way I can add a single chip 68hc11 computer that will work in conjunction with the handyboard besides than having too purchase another handyboard to work together.? What I want to do is have the handyboard control and monitor the sensors and motors so that it can effectively move around efficiently. And have the other microprocessor work on mapping out it's environment and model a behavior that will best suite this environment whether it's a confined maze or unrestricted open floor filled with varying obstacles. 44,45d42
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2211 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 23 Lines: 22 19,20c20 i'm a junior-programer/electronics-dabbler/lego-addept(or = addict)/new-toy-junky i'm a junior-programer/electronics-dabbler/lego-addept(or addict)/new-toy-junky 24,25c24,25 i have buckets of radio controlled car junk at my disposal... servos, = speed controllers... motors... battaries... you name it... i have buckets of radio controlled car junk at my disposal... servos, speed controllers... motors... battaries... you name it... 27,28c27,28 i was wondering if the handyboard was or can be made futaba, airtronics, = or any r/c standard servo compatible i was wondering if the handyboard was or can be made futaba, airtronics, or any r/c standard servo compatible 30,36c30,36 you see, i'm not sure how the motor outputs on the hb work... i assume = only on and off, but i have no idea... also... the draw from the motors = i own may be too much for the hb to handle... as far as i can tell... = using electronic speed controllers made for these motors would be ideal, = even if the hb could handle the draw........ the speed controlers have = thier own fuses, heat sinks, and calibration dials..... they are also = well suited for my aplication... and i have a few you see, i'm not sure how the motor outputs on the hb work... i assume only on and off, but i have no idea... also... the draw from the motors i own may be too much for the hb to handle... as far as i can tell... using electronic speed controllers made for these motors would be ideal, even if the hb could handle the draw........ the speed controlers have thier own fuses, heat sinks, and calibration dials..... they are also well suited for my aplication... and i have a few 40d39
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2228 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 62 Lines: 52 17,18c18,19 also, joe... there are several programs you can run to get more = conventional memory (640)... also, joe... there are several programs you can run to get more conventional memory (640)... 20,25c21,25 dos 6.0 to 6.22 comes with memmaker... run this a couple times, toy with = the settings a bit to see what you can pull off... one of the settings = may cause problems with the video reigon of your memory area (cause your = video to do funny stuff or not work in a few resolutions) but will give = you 64k of upper memory which can be used buy the drivers taking up you = preciouse 640k.... dos 6.0 to 6.22 comes with memmaker... run this a couple times, toy with the settings a bit to see what you can pull off... one of the settings may cause problems with the video reigon of your memory area (cause your video to do funny stuff or not work in a few resolutions) but will give you 64k of upper memory which can be used buy the drivers taking up you preciouse 640k.... 27,28c27 with other versions of dos (and windows 95) you'll need to do it by = hand....=20 with other versions of dos (and windows 95) you'll need to do it by hand.... 30,31c29,30 if you want memmaker.. i'll give it to you... it may not work with your = version of dos... if you want memmaker.. i'll give it to you... it may not work with your version of dos... 41,44c40,41 > Randy, Thanks for your help so far, but I have a few questions. How = can I > remove drivers to get more room. Where can I quickly get a copy of IC = 3.1? > Randy, Thanks for your help so far, but I have a few questions. How can I > remove drivers to get more room. Where can I quickly get a copy of IC 3.1? 51,52c48 Generally, you'd remove lines from your config.sys or autoexec.bat (on = c:\) Generally, you'd remove lines from your config.sys or autoexec.bat (on c:\) 54,55c50 Networking software on pre-Windows 95 can take a particularly large = chunk Networking software on pre-Windows 95 can take a particularly large chunk 59,60c54 and config.sys are doing, I'd recommend getting some specific advice = from and config.sys are doing, I'd recommend getting some specific advice from 63,64c57 As for IC 3.1, it is discounted to $35 for personal or educational use, = and As for IC 3.1, it is discounted to $35 for personal or educational use, and 66,69c59,60 credit card, or can be ordered from Newton Research Labs by mailing a = check (our address is on our web site at http://www.newtonlabs.com/ ). If = you're credit card, or can be ordered from Newton Research Labs by mailing a check (our address is on our web site at http://www.newtonlabs.com/ ). If you're 79,81d69
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2233 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,19c19,20 Can anyone tell me where I might find instructions for connecting the = Polaroid 6500 sonar with the Handyboard? Can anyone tell me where I might find instructions for connecting the Polaroid 6500 sonar with the Handyboard? 21c22 -=3DFred Cass=3D- -=Fred Cass=-
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2235 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 25 Lines: 23 20,29c21,28 I am having lots of trouble with the vector 2x compass. Sometimes it = seems to work fine. Other times it just ouputs zeros (like someone else = was saying...). I checked all the physical wiring, and that seems to be fine. The = strange thing is that half the time, it ends up hosing the hb pcode, and = then crashing IC31. This of course only happens with doing things = related to the compass. I'm using the code that I think Tom B. wrote = and is posted on the HB homepage. It seems as though perhaps the IRQ driven routines are interfering with = IC, or are perhaps writing garbage out to the wrong places in memory. I am having lots of trouble with the vector 2x compass. Sometimes it seems to work fine. Other times it just ouputs zeros (like someone else was saying...). I checked all the physical wiring, and that seems to be fine. The strange thing is that half the time, it ends up hosing the hb pcode, and then crashing IC31. This of course only happens with doing things related to the compass. I'm using the code that I think Tom B. wrote and is posted on the HB homepage. It seems as though perhaps the IRQ driven routines are interfering with IC, or are perhaps writing garbage out to the wrong places in memory. 32c31 -=3DFred Cass=3D- -=Fred Cass=-
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2251 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 35 Lines: 33 18,29c19,29 Well, I seemed to have narrowed down the problem I was having with the = Vector2x compass. It was functioning fine... All I had to do was write = clean code that called comp_disable(1) at the end. When my code wasn't = doing that, the compass IRQ routines were still running, and IC31 would = say, "initializing interrupts" (or something like that), hose the pcode, = and crash. But when I called comp_disable(1), then pulled up IC, it = worked fine. I think we should try and write some code for the compass so that works = as a slave, and you could just request the current heading from it. The = IRQ code works, but as you said, it slows the board down quite a bit, = and is pretty fragile with IC31. I'll start taking a look at it to see = if I can come up with anything... Well, I seemed to have narrowed down the problem I was having with the Vector2x compass. It was functioning fine... All I had to do was write clean code that called comp_disable(1) at the end. When my code wasn't doing that, the compass IRQ routines were still running, and IC31 would say, "initializing interrupts" (or something like that), hose the pcode, and crash. But when I called comp_disable(1), then pulled up IC, it worked fine. I think we should try and write some code for the compass so that works as a slave, and you could just request the current heading from it. The IRQ code works, but as you said, it slows the board down quite a bit, and is pretty fragile with IC31. I'll start taking a look at it to see if I can come up with anything... 31,35c31,34 I also find it difficult to shield the Vector2x from the magnetic = effects of the HandyBoard itself, and the motors. I've had to position = it quite a distance away (kind of difficult on my small robot), and = spent quite a bit of time leveling it. Perhaps I should have picked up = the gimbled version... I also find it difficult to shield the Vector2x from the magnetic effects of the HandyBoard itself, and the motors. I've had to position it quite a distance away (kind of difficult on my small robot), and spent quite a bit of time leveling it. Perhaps I should have picked up the gimbled version... 37,40c36,39 On another note, I still haven't seen anything specific to the = HandyBoard for connecting up the Polaroid 6500. Thanks to Michael A. = Tyborski for his links.... Still looking for an idiot proof description = of how to connect it to the HB... On another note, I still haven't seen anything specific to the HandyBoard for connecting up the Polaroid 6500. Thanks to Michael A. Tyborski for his links.... Still looking for an idiot proof description of how to connect it to the HB... 42c41 -=3DFred Cass=3D- -=Fred Cass=-
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2258 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 24 Lines: 23 20,28c21,28 I read your quick explaination of how to connect the Polaroid 6500 sonar = board to the HandyBoard, and I have a couple of questions.... =20 Mainly, you mention that the INIT signal plugs into pin 9 of the second = motor driver chip socket, and that BINH plugs into pin 1. So then am I = to assume that you need to remove the motor driver chip, and render the = two motor ouputs unusable (leaving 2 usable)? Currently, I'm switching = on the Vector2X compass with one of the motor ports, and the other two = are driving the motors. So, obviously, something would have to go... = Any suggestions? I read your quick explaination of how to connect the Polaroid 6500 sonar board to the HandyBoard, and I have a couple of questions.... Mainly, you mention that the INIT signal plugs into pin 9 of the second motor driver chip socket, and that BINH plugs into pin 1. So then am I to assume that you need to remove the motor driver chip, and render the two motor ouputs unusable (leaving 2 usable)? Currently, I'm switching on the Vector2X compass with one of the motor ports, and the other two are driving the motors. So, obviously, something would have to go... Any suggestions? 30c30 -=3DFred Cass=3D- -=Fred Cass=-
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2263 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 33 Lines: 32 18,24c19,24 Sounds to me like your LED is just not focused straight ahead. I found = that sticking the IR LED in a Radio Shack panel mount LED holder (cat no = 276-080a) worked the best for focusing the beam of IR. I had tried soda = straws and other things, but the LED holder worked the best for me. Also, you may want to put a pot in series with the LEDs to allow you to = adjust their brightness. Check the brightness with a camcorder = viewfinder... Sounds to me like your LED is just not focused straight ahead. I found that sticking the IR LED in a Radio Shack panel mount LED holder (cat no 276-080a) worked the best for focusing the beam of IR. I had tried soda straws and other things, but the LED holder worked the best for me. Also, you may want to put a pot in series with the LEDs to allow you to adjust their brightness. Check the brightness with a camcorder viewfinder... 27c27 -=3DFred Cass=3D- -=Fred Cass=-
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2265 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 35,43c36,37 Thanks goes to Dave Hrynkiw from the BEAM Robotics mail list for providing = this information. BEAM is a acronym standing for: Biology, Electronics, Aesthetics, Mechanics= . If you would like more info, visit http://www.solarbotics.com/ Thanks goes to Dave Hrynkiw from the BEAM Robotics mail list for providing this information. 45a40,41 BEAM is a acronym standing for: Biology, Electronics, Aesthetics, Mechanics. If you would like more info, visit http://www.solarbotics.com/
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2275 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,25c18,26 you can do it on your fingers... each finger is a bit... no fingers is = 0, pinky 1, ring 2, middle 4, pointer 8, etc... once you get it down, = counting bits is a breeze... i (missing on finger) can count to 512... math is still pretty hard... but can be done with practice... something = you can learn waiting in elevators, bus stops, mother inlaw's house (she = already thinks yer nuts) lechtures, while in heavily infested gang = "'hoods" (honest ocifer... i'm counting in binary) during sex... (works = better than thinking about baseball) you can do it on your fingers... each finger is a bit... no fingers is 0, pinky 1, ring 2, middle 4, pointer 8, etc... once you get it down, counting bits is a breeze... i (missing on finger) can count to 512... math is still pretty hard... but can be done with practice... something you can learn waiting in elevators, bus stops, mother inlaw's house (she already thinks yer nuts) lechtures, while in heavily infested gang "'hoods" (honest ocifer... i'm counting in binary) during sex... (works better than thinking about baseball) 43,44d43
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2279 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 253 Lines: 216 20,25c21,25 To: Josh Diehl; Carrie Fisher; Kit Wetzler; Juan Preciado; Barb; Greg = Larson; Chris Mash; Josh Stumpf; Andra Blythe Pfautz; Dave Trask; Bill = Jacobs; John Kinsella; Jenna Shields; Stephanie Freel; Blaise Camp; = Travis Sutterfield; Brian Zimny; David T. Witkowski; Tammy Phillips; = Dave Trask; Elsa Lyon; Monica Potch; Corey McGuire; Brad Perrault; = Philip R. Glebow; Lori Kaspari To: Josh Diehl; Carrie Fisher; Kit Wetzler; Juan Preciado; Barb; Greg Larson; Chris Mash; Josh Stumpf; Andra Blythe Pfautz; Dave Trask; Bill Jacobs; John Kinsella; Jenna Shields; Stephanie Freel; Blaise Camp; Travis Sutterfield; Brian Zimny; David T. Witkowski; Tammy Phillips; Dave Trask; Elsa Lyon; Monica Potch; Corey McGuire; Brad Perrault; Philip R. Glebow; Lori Kaspari 28,29c28 I know, I know, it's not funnies, but it's of extreme importance anyway. = I know, I know, it's not funnies, but it's of extreme importance anyway. 33,34c32 *************************************************************************= ***** ****************************************************************************** 39,40c37 Subject: ALERT: Supreme Court will rule on free speech any day now! = (6/5/1997) Subject: ALERT: Supreme Court will rule on free speech any day now! (6/5/1997) 44,45c41 post-CDA legislative wranglings that are expected in Congress. = -Shabbir] post-CDA legislative wranglings that are expected in Congress. -Shabbir] 47,49c43 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ======================================================================== 75,78c69,70 Within the next 4 weeks, the United States Supreme Court will hand down = an historic decision in the legal challenge to the Communications Decency = Act Within the next 4 weeks, the United States Supreme Court will hand down an historic decision in the legal challenge to the Communications Decency Act 83,90c75,78 Will the Supreme Court agree with a decision of a Philadelphia Federal = Court which last year ruled the CDA unconstitutional? 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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2287 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 28 Lines: 21 17,20c18,21 I am trying to get my handyboard communicating with a TurboC program = through the com2 port on my computer. I have been attempting to use the = routine found in serialio.c on the website. Say I have an infinite loop = setup on my handyboard that looks something like this: I am trying to get my handyboard communicating with a TurboC program through the com2 port on my computer. I have been attempting to use the routine found in serialio.c on the website. Say I have an infinite loop setup on my handyboard that looks something like this: 31,47c32,38 and I run a TurboC program using inport(int port) to read the value of = com2 (2F8h or 760 decimal). I keep getting 0 when the handyboard is off, = 254 when it's on and doing nothing, and either 254 or 255 when I send = various numbers with serial_putchar(int) on the handyboard. Can anyone = tell why this is? Am I just looking at a base address and not the = address I want? I do not have any references to the 8088 UART so I don't = know... =20 Also trying to send to the handyboard I am able to send numbers, but a = similar thing happens... I'm using TC's outport(int port, int byte) = command and sending various numbers to port 760 I receive 30, 120, 128, = and 248 on my handyboard. Again I believe this is a similar problem = where I am manipulating the wrong registers or do I need to maintain = certain registers and only manipulate others? Any help would be = great.... Joe and I run a TurboC program using inport(int port) to read the value of com2 (2F8h or 760 decimal). I keep getting 0 when the handyboard is off, 254 when it's on and doing nothing, and either 254 or 255 when I send various numbers with serial_putchar(int) on the handyboard. Can anyone tell why this is? Am I just looking at a base address and not the address I want? I do not have any references to the 8088 UART so I don't know... Also trying to send to the handyboard I am able to send numbers, but a similar thing happens... I'm using TC's outport(int port, int byte) command and sending various numbers to port 760 I receive 30, 120, 128, and 248 on my handyboard. Again I believe this is a similar problem where I am manipulating the wrong registers or do I need to maintain certain registers and only manipulate others? Any help would be great.... Joe
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2290 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 32 Lines: 30 17,20c18,21 >>I am trying to get my handyboard communicating with a TurboC program = through the com2 port on my >>computer. I have been attempting to use = the routine found in serialio.c on the website. Say I have an=20 >>infinite loop setup on my...=20 >>I am trying to get my handyboard communicating with a TurboC program through >>the com2 port on my >>computer. I have been attempting to use the routine >>found in serialio.c on the website. Say I have an >>infinite loop setup on my... 22,24c23,24 Nevermind folks, I figured it out. It was my setup of the com port in = TurboC. Here is the code I used to solve the problem if anyone is = interested...=20 Nevermind folks, I figured it out. It was my setup of the com port in TurboC. Here is the code I used to solve the problem if anyone is interested... 32,40c32,39 /* 0x01 =3D 115,200 BPS */ /* 0x02 =3D 56,700 BPS */ /* 0x03 =3D 38,400 BPS */ /* 0x06 =3D 19,200 BPS */ /* 0x0C =3D 9,600 BPS */ /* 0x18 =3D 4,800 BPS */ /* 0x30 =3D 2,400 BPS */=20 outportb(PORT1+1,0x00); /* set baud rate - divisor latch high byte */ = /* 0x01 = 115,200 BPS */ /* 0x02 = 56,700 BPS */ /* 0x03 = 38,400 BPS */ /* 0x06 = 19,200 BPS */ /* 0x0C = 9,600 BPS */ /* 0x18 = 4,800 BPS */ /* 0x30 = 2,400 BPS */ outportb(PORT1+1,0x00); /* set baud rate - divisor latch high byte */ 46,50c45,47 now just use inportb(PORT1) to read an integer ascii character and = outportb(PORT1, int ch) to transmit an integer ascii char ch on the PC's = serial port. Joe now just use inportb(PORT1) to read an integer ascii character and outportb(PORT1, int ch) to transmit an integer ascii char ch on the PC's serial port. Joe
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2293 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 38 Lines: 36 17,19c18,19 i'm not one to sell stuff... but i thought you guys might be interested = in this... usb might make this product obsolete, but i'm thinking about = getting one i'm not one to sell stuff... but i thought you guys might be interested in this... usb might make this product obsolete, but i'm thinking about getting one 33,38c33,38 i did a little research on increasing modem speeds and (more importantly = for me and fellow quake players) decreasing latency.. i found that the = faster you tell your modem to go, the smaller your ping times (no = suprise there)... the difference between 57Kbps and 110Kbps was enough = to sell me... and, with newer modems going 57Kbps, it would be crazy to = set your serial speeds any lower than 110Kbps... i did a little research on increasing modem speeds and (more importantly for me and fellow quake players) decreasing latency.. i found that the faster you tell your modem to go, the smaller your ping times (no suprise there)... the difference between 57Kbps and 110Kbps was enough to sell me... and, with newer modems going 57Kbps, it would be crazy to set your serial speeds any lower than 110Kbps... 42,43c42,43 the sources of latency are compression from modems and the actually = cable (be it ever so slight)...=20 the sources of latency are compression from modems and the actually cable (be it ever so slight)... 45,54c45,50 the way you get over the compression is to increase the serial speed = (giveing the modem enough time to compress the info before sending it) = or to turn it off.. compression works in bursts (frames, packets, = whatever) of 1k (i think) and if that 1k isn't filled, the comprssion = goes to waste, slows the transfer, and/or increases the latency.... = also, with games or already compressed info (mpeg, jpeg, zip) the = comprssion rarely works... to get over the cable, get internal... (but you get no lights and if it = freezes, you have to reboot) the way you get over the compression is to increase the serial speed (giveing the modem enough time to compress the info before sending it) or to turn it off.. compression works in bursts (frames, packets, whatever) of 1k (i think) and if that 1k isn't filled, the comprssion goes to waste, slows the transfer, and/or increases the latency.... also, with games or already compressed info (mpeg, jpeg, zip) the comprssion rarely works... 55a52,53 to get over the cable, get internal... (but you get no lights and if it freezes, you have to reboot)
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2299 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 9 Lines: 8 18,19c19 I need to read a magnetic card device from a Handy Board, and i don't kno= w I need to read a magnetic card device from a Handy Board, and i don't know 22c22 Thanks for all .=20 Thanks for all . 25c25 Germ=E1n Gentile. Germán Gentile. 27,28d26
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2300 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 60 Lines: 52 19,48c20,47 first... slow down the baud... 9600 should be fine for a 64k program... = it may take a min but how much speed do you need?... if that works... = try 19200, 38700, blah blah blah... if neither of those work... jump into your bios and slow down your isa = clock... the isa clock is usually 1/3 the pci speed.. (33/3=3D11) if you = have serial or modem trouble... it could be that your serial controller = is getting flooded... this shouldn't happen in normal cases, but slowing = it down to 1/4 (33/4=3D8.25) this is also a common problem if you use = faster bus speeds to over clock your computer.. example... my mother = board has a 75mhs bus speed feature... pci speed =3D 1/2 bus speed = (37.5) isa speed is (37.5/3=3D12.??) isa is more prone to crashing from = over clocking than pci... but just take a look at what you're runnng on = isa... serial ports... parallel ports... modems, sound cards... nothing = really power intensive (if yer still running video on a pentium with an = isa video card.. you should be shot!) i speak from experience... i was getting ZIP for bandwidth when i first = got on the internet with this machine.. (p188, 75mhz bus speed) i bugged = the guys at deepwell, i used 4 different operating systems to try and = see if it was my nt 4 screwing up again.. i busted out a couple old = modems i have lying around.. i finally tried using my roommate's = computer... it worked fine... with all of my modems... that lead me to = the serial port problem.... fixed it... everything was peachy... if you have a 166 for sure... you may have one of the new mother boards = with the funky fresh 83 mhz bus speed... (83*2=3D166) this may be the = cause of the problem... the solution maybe the isa clock thing, or you = may have to reconfigure the jumpers to 66mhs bus with the 2.5 clock = multiplyer (66*2.5=3D166) first... slow down the baud... 9600 should be fine for a 64k program... it may take a min but how much speed do you need?... if that works... try 19200, 38700, blah blah blah... if neither of those work... jump into your bios and slow down your isa clock... the isa clock is usually 1/3 the pci speed.. (33/3=11) if you have serial or modem trouble... it could be that your serial controller is getting flooded... this shouldn't happen in normal cases, but slowing it down to 1/4 (33/4=8.25) this is also a common problem if you use faster bus speeds to over clock your computer.. example... my mother board has a 75mhs bus speed feature... pci speed = 1/2 bus speed (37.5) isa speed is (37.5/3=12.??) isa is more prone to crashing from over clocking than pci... but just take a look at what you're runnng on isa... serial ports... parallel ports... modems, sound cards... nothing really power intensive (if yer still running video on a pentium with an isa video card.. you should be shot!) i speak from experience... i was getting ZIP for bandwidth when i first got on the internet with this machine.. (p188, 75mhz bus speed) i bugged the guys at deepwell, i used 4 different operating systems to try and see if it was my nt 4 screwing up again.. i busted out a couple old modems i have lying around.. i finally tried using my roommate's computer... it worked fine... with all of my modems... that lead me to the serial port problem.... fixed it... everything was peachy... if you have a 166 for sure... you may have one of the new mother boards with the funky fresh 83 mhz bus speed... (83*2=166) this may be the cause of the problem... the solution maybe the isa clock thing, or you may have to reconfigure the jumpers to 66mhs bus with the 2.5 clock multiplyer (66*2.5=166) 50,51c49,50 if that latter is the case... i'll shed a tear for you... 83 mhz bus = speed rules!!!! if that latter is the case... i'll shed a tear for you... 83 mhz bus speed rules!!!! 62,67c61,63 only com1 (serial port) and com2 (modem) are enabled. HBDL always = returns the addressing error while downloading the bootstrap. I looked through = the list archives and noticed that Fred had suggested using DLM with the = -256 only com1 (serial port) and com2 (modem) are enabled. HBDL always returns the addressing error while downloading the bootstrap. I looked through the list archives and noticed that Fred had suggested using DLM with the -256 69,72c65,66 but the addressing error stopped the pcode from finishing. I should = point out that I have an A1 version of the 6811. Does any of this ring any = bells but the addressing error stopped the pcode from finishing. I should point out that I have an A1 version of the 6811. Does any of this ring any bells 74,75c68 becoming irritated with using the 286 for working on the HB. Any = comments becoming irritated with using the 286 for working on the HB. Any comments 77,79d69
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2303 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,24c18,23 Has anyone tried to use SONY-TX.ICB with any luck? I get the icb loaded = just fine and can get it to trigger the ir output test led (the little = red one) with nothing plugged into the connecter, but when I plug an ir = led into the jack and run the sony_press() function the value of the = output variable changes. Is there a special setup I need to use = (capacitor across the led leads or something). Joe Has anyone tried to use SONY-TX.ICB with any luck? I get the icb loaded just fine and can get it to trigger the ir output test led (the little red one) with nothing plugged into the connecter, but when I plug an ir led into the jack and run the sony_press() function the value of the output variable changes. Is there a special setup I need to use (capacitor across the led leads or something). Joe
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2320 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 24 Lines: 22 19,22c20,21 zou jij voor de komende periode (tot 1 juli) mijn elektronische post = dat=20 binnenkomt op jaron.paludanus@rnw.nl (=E8n synoniemen) kunnen = doorsturen zou jij voor de komende periode (tot 1 juli) mijn elektronische post dat binnenkomt op jaron.paludanus@rnw.nl (èn synoniemen) kunnen doorsturen
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2324 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 41 Lines: 36 17,32c18,30 for all custom nicad applications, i use radio controlled car = batteries.... high amp's... steady charge... great for quick charge... = you can even get them matched (which isn't really nessicary for most = applications) you can find these batteries in many house hold battery powered tools, = dust busters, the like... also... for 20 bucks... for your lap top computer, you can improvise = with these... sometimes extending the life of the lap top greatly!!! i = have a t1200xe (286)... for half as much money you get just as much, if = not more time... also... i got some info from someone here that you can by pass the lead = on the handyboard for the motors so you can use an external power = source... for all custom nicad applications, i use radio controlled car batteries.... high amp's... steady charge... great for quick charge... you can even get them matched (which isn't really nessicary for most applications) you can find these batteries in many house hold battery powered tools, dust busters, the like... also... for 20 bucks... for your lap top computer, you can improvise with these... sometimes extending the life of the lap top greatly!!! i have a t1200xe (286)... for half as much money you get just as much, if not more time... also... i got some info from someone here that you can by pass the lead on the handyboard for the motors so you can use an external power source... 41,42c39 Hi, I just came accross a 7.2volt (6 cell) NiMH battery. I think = it's Hi, I just came accross a 7.2volt (6 cell) NiMH battery. I think it's 51,52c48 I'd really like to use these on my robot due to their small size = and I'd really like to use these on my robot due to their small size and 57,60c53 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2332 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 72 Lines: 67 17,21c18,21 i'm sure they do, but the memory effect can be fixed and can be used to = your advantage in some cases... you may want to talk to people all a = local hobby store... esp. if they have a track.... i never learned the = memory stuff, being into gas trucks, but i know that there are three and = that 2 are benificial... i'm sure they do, but the memory effect can be fixed and can be used to your advantage in some cases... you may want to talk to people all a local hobby store... esp. if they have a track.... i never learned the memory stuff, being into gas trucks, but i know that there are three and that 2 are benificial... 33,34c33,34 ericson mar=20 Master of Engineering Candidate=20 ericson mar Master of Engineering Candidate 39,40c39,40 Department of Mechanical Engineering=20 The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art=20 Department of Mechanical Engineering The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art 45,61c45,59 > for all custom nicad applications, i use radio controlled car = batteries.... high amp's... steady charge... great for quick charge... = you can even get them matched (which isn't really nessicary for most = applications) >=20 > you can find these batteries in many house hold battery powered tools, = dust busters, the like... >=20 > also... for 20 bucks... for your lap top computer, you can improvise = with these... sometimes extending the life of the lap top greatly!!! i = have a t1200xe (286)... for half as much money you get just as much, if = not more time... >=20 > also... i got some info from someone here that you can by pass the = lead on the handyboard for the motors so you can use an external power = source... >=20 > for all custom nicad applications, i use radio controlled car batteries.... > high amp's... steady charge... great for quick charge... you can even get them > matched (which isn't really nessicary for most applications) > > you can find these batteries in many house hold battery powered tools, dust > busters, the like... > > also... for 20 bucks... for your lap top computer, you can improvise with > these... sometimes extending the life of the lap top greatly!!! i have a > t1200xe (286)... for half as much money you get just as much, if not more > time... > > also... i got some info from someone here that you can by pass the lead on the > handyboard for the motors so you can use an external power source... > 67,70c65,67 >=20 >=20 > Hi, I just came accross a 7.2volt (6 cell) NiMH battery. I think = it's > > > Hi, I just came accross a 7.2volt (6 cell) NiMH battery. I think it's 72c69 >=20 > 74c71 >=20 > 76c73 >=20 > 78,80c75,76 >=20 > I'd really like to use these on my robot due to their small size = and > > I'd really like to use these on my robot due to their small size and 82c78 >=20 > 84,90c80,84 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > > >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2333 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 71 Lines: 67 19,26c20,27 Well, that is one of the great benefits of NiMH batteries is that they = can be charged without ever having to completely cycle them. They are = really convienient in Cel phones since you can use a trickle or 'zap' = type charge on them no matter what their current charge level is. And = they never build up a memory like nicads (at least not nearly as bad). = I am not an expert on batteries by any stretch of the imagination, but = this has been my experience (working for manufacturers of hi-end laptops = (DEC, NEC), and working for cel phone companies....) =20 Well, that is one of the great benefits of NiMH batteries is that they can be charged without ever having to completely cycle them. They are really convienient in Cel phones since you can use a trickle or 'zap' type charge on them no matter what their current charge level is. And they never build up a memory like nicads (at least not nearly as bad). I am not an expert on batteries by any stretch of the imagination, but this has been my experience (working for manufacturers of hi-end laptops (DEC, NEC), and working for cel phone companies....) 28c29 -=3DFred Cass=3D- -=Fred Cass=- 35,50c36,49 > for all custom nicad applications, i use radio controlled car = batteries.... high amp's... steady charge... great for quick charge... = you can even get them matched (which isn't really nessicary for most = applications) > > you can find these batteries in many house hold battery powered tools, = dust busters, the like... > > also... for 20 bucks... for your lap top computer, you can improvise = with these... sometimes extending the life of the lap top greatly!!! i = have a t1200xe (286)... for half as much money you get just as much, if = not more time... > > also... i got some info from someone here that you can by pass the = lead on the handyboard for the motors so you can use an external power = source... > for all custom nicad applications, i use radio controlled car batteries.... > high amp's... steady charge... great for quick charge... you can even get them > matched (which isn't really nessicary for most applications) > > you can find these batteries in many house hold battery powered tools, dust > busters, the like... > > also... for 20 bucks... for your lap top computer, you can improvise with > these... sometimes extending the life of the lap top greatly!!! i have a > t1200xe (286)... for half as much money you get just as much, if not more > time... > > also... i got some info from someone here that you can by pass the lead on the > handyboard for the motors so you can use an external power source... 59,60c58 > Hi, I just came accross a 7.2volt (6 cell) NiMH battery. I think = it's > Hi, I just came accross a 7.2volt (6 cell) NiMH battery. I think it's 69,70c67 > I'd really like to use these on my robot due to their small size = and > I'd really like to use these on my robot due to their small size and 75c72 > =20 > 78c75 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2342 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 44 Lines: 37 18c19 On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, [ISO-8859-1] Germ=E1n Pablo Gentile wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, [ISO-8859-1] Germán Pablo Gentile wrote: 21,28c22,25 > Handy boards(outside of IC, i'm working with Delphi). My problem is : How= i > can comunicate with 8 handy , without collitios???. Well , i think in sen= d > message to all the handy via rs-232 , with a header telling wath number o= f > handy receive the message, and via software the correct handy board recei= ve > Handy boards(outside of IC, i'm working with Delphi). My problem is : How i > can comunicate with 8 handy , without collitios???. Well , i think in send > message to all the handy via rs-232 , with a header telling wath number of > handy receive the message, and via software the correct handy board receive 30,35c27,29 > handys send message to the PC... In this way can happen more of 1 transmi= t > at the same time!!! I think a solution may be , 8 input board and when o= ne > transmitt the other inputs don't receive message. But I have not idea how= i > handys send message to the PC... In this way can happen more of 1 transmit > at the same time!!! I think a solution may be , 8 input board and when one > transmitt the other inputs don't receive message. But I have not idea how i 37,39c31,33 >=20 > I have to say this always, sorry for my poor english !!!=20 >=20 > > I have to say this always, sorry for my poor english !!! > 48c42 signal line so the others stay quiet. Does the PC have a SPI port?=20 signal line so the others stay quiet. Does the PC have a SPI port? 54c48 gracefully.=20 gracefully. 62,63d55
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2358 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 30 Lines: 28 19c20 > From: Germ=E1n Pablo Gentile <ggentile@cvtci.com.ar> > From: Germán Pablo Gentile <ggentile@cvtci.com.ar> 23,25c24,25 >=20 > Boys , I'm really can't believe all the help you give me ... Really, i = go > > Boys , I'm really can't believe all the help you give me ... Really, i go 27c27 >=20 > 32c32 > second question is :=20 > second question is : 36,37c36 > star. Shortly, Every Handy read this signal from a wire of aprox. 50 mt= s. > star. Shortly, Every Handy read this signal from a wire of aprox. 50 mts. 40c39 >=20 > 42,43c41,42 >=20 >=20 > > 46,49c45,46 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2366 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 19,28c20,28 I have a handy board kit that I order from gleason research about 3 = months ago. I turned it on once to see what I could do, downloaded the = sample code, and it has been packed away ever since. I just don't have = the time to play around with it. I also have the motor and sensor kit, = and I purchased IC version 3.1 If any of you, or someone you know are interested in it, please let me = know. Between the board, extra parts and software, I spent at least = $250. I'll sell it all for $150. Like I said... I used it once. It = has the rechargable batteries on board and all. I have a handy board kit that I order from gleason research about 3 months ago. I turned it on once to see what I could do, downloaded the sample code, and it has been packed away ever since. I just don't have the time to play around with it. I also have the motor and sensor kit, and I purchased IC version 3.1 If any of you, or someone you know are interested in it, please let me know. Between the board, extra parts and software, I spent at least $250. I'll sell it all for $150. Like I said... I used it once. It has the rechargable batteries on board and all. 34d33
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2371 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 13 Lines: 11 17,21c18,21 looking for a small generator that pumps 6-15 volts dc at a shaft speed = of 1,000 to 5,000 rpm or 10,000 to 20,000rpm.... 12v is the key... but = it is to be driven by a .12ci gas motor with a throtle, so maintaining = the voltage will have to be left up to a capasiter, but it may not even = be important... looking for a small generator that pumps 6-15 volts dc at a shaft speed of 1,000 to 5,000 rpm or 10,000 to 20,000rpm.... 12v is the key... but it is to be driven by a .12ci gas motor with a throtle, so maintaining the voltage will have to be left up to a capasiter, but it may not even be important... 23,24c23,24 i'll be using an rc car pinion, so i think the shaft will be 1/8th o an = inch, but i am not sure... i'll be using an rc car pinion, so i think the shaft will be 1/8th o an inch, but i am not sure... 28,30c28 thanks for the help... even if it's just pointing me in the right = direction thanks for the help... even if it's just pointing me in the right direction
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2384 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 96 Lines: 94 24,25c25 >> the handy board to communicate with other 6811's/handy= boards/mini-boards? >> the handy board to communicate with other 6811's/handy boards/mini-boards? 73c73 >--=20 >-- 76,77c76 >Department of Biology, Slug Division | nomenclature. / A slug, by any= other >Department of Biology, Slug Division | nomenclature. / A slug, by any other 115,116c114 "Y'en a pas d'probl=E8mes!" "Y'en a pas d'problèmes!"
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2416 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 67 Lines: 63 19,20c20,21 =20 I'm had the same problem, until i found that I loaded some programs=20 I'm had the same problem, until i found that I loaded some programs 23c24 It seems you are running some programs for the 6.270.=20 It seems you are running some programs for the 6.270. 31c32 =20 35,36c36 ______________________________Svarsavskiljare _____________________________= _____ ______________________________Svarsavskiljare __________________________________ 42,50c42,48 I have had no problems assembling the handy board up until now. During the= =20 testing of the digital inputs, I am not getting the proper responses. I am= =20 getting the press start button message and can successfully move on from=20 there. I can also move on from the "press stop..." and get to the screen=20 with the zeros blinking. I can not however get any of the inputs to=20 register a 1. I have checked the orientation of RP1, and it is fine, as=20 well as all of the other RP's and IC's. All of the connections look fine.=20 I have had no problems assembling the handy board up until now. During the testing of the digital inputs, I am not getting the proper responses. I am getting the press start button message and can successfully move on from there. I can also move on from the "press stop..." and get to the screen with the zeros blinking. I can not however get any of the inputs to register a 1. I have checked the orientation of RP1, and it is fine, as well as all of the other RP's and IC's. All of the connections look fine. 52,53c50,51 =20 1) I don't have a logic probe so I didn't test the previous step, the=20 1) I don't have a logic probe so I didn't test the previous step, the 55,62c53,59 =20 2) When I tried to load hbtest.c, I got a message that start_press(),=20 knob(), stop_button(), and _raw_analog() were undefined. I thought those=20 should have already been loaded up when I started IC, but hey... Well, I=20 found a file called lib_hb.c (it wasn't being loaded at start up... a file=20 lib_r22.c was) and cut and pasted the needed functions into the hbtest.c=20 file saved it and loaded it successfully. Were those functions outdated? I= =20 2) When I tried to load hbtest.c, I got a message that start_press(), knob(), stop_button(), and _raw_analog() were undefined. I thought those should have already been loaded up when I started IC, but hey... Well, I found a file called lib_hb.c (it wasn't being loaded at start up... a file lib_r22.c was) and cut and pasted the needed functions into the hbtest.c file saved it and loaded it successfully. Were those functions outdated? I 64,66c61,63 =20 3) I have read there are problems with using DC adaptors with ratings of 1=20 amp. max. I know this can pose a problem with battery charging, but I=20 3) I have read there are problems with using DC adaptors with ratings of 1 amp. max. I know this can pose a problem with battery charging, but I 68,69c65,66 =20 =20 71,72c68,69 =20 Anthony Oren Loeppert ***=20 Anthony Oren Loeppert *** 82,85c79,81 =20 =20 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2424 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 53 Lines: 50 19,29c20,30 JDR Microdevices sells the General Insturments CTS256AL2 chip = (GI8642CAA) for ** $4.95 **. This is (I think) a slightly newer version = of the same chip that Radio Shack used to sell. I bought one of those with an order from JDR, but haven't had a chance = to even look at it yet. I also found one of the old RS ones at a flea = market with the application notes, etc. =20 If you can figure out an easy way to hook it up to the handyboard, and = program it, please share it with the rest of us. It's a very = inexpensive chip, and would be great if we could use it with the HB. The RC board does look great, but the price is also the reason I didn't = go for it... JDR Microdevices sells the General Insturments CTS256AL2 chip (GI8642CAA) for ** $4.95 **. This is (I think) a slightly newer version of the same chip that Radio Shack used to sell. I bought one of those with an order from JDR, but haven't had a chance to even look at it yet. I also found one of the old RS ones at a flea market with the application notes, etc. If you can figure out an easy way to hook it up to the handyboard, and program it, please share it with the rest of us. It's a very inexpensive chip, and would be great if we could use it with the HB. The RC board does look great, but the price is also the reason I didn't go for it... 31c32 -=3DFred Cass=3D- -=Fred Cass=- 44,45c45 Wow, impressive board. However, it's a bit out of my price range - I = was Wow, impressive board. However, it's a bit out of my price range - I was 47,48c47 be. Quality of speech isn't that much of a factor, I'm merely going to = try be. Quality of speech isn't that much of a factor, I'm merely going to try 50,51c49 contact RC, though, and see what they've got, hopefully I can come up = with contact RC, though, and see what they've got, hopefully I can come up with
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2435 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,25c18,26 just attack it with legos.... once you figure it out with legos, it's = pretty easy... having looked at it my self... i would assume that only = one of the wheels (per side) or all are driven, but the suspension = system is very simplistic... infact, i can remember a GI-Joe toy i owned = as a kid having the same thing... this is very exciting for me.... i wish i had a hand board and a boat = load of legos!!! i can afford the handy board... but the legos are WAY = out of my price range.... just attack it with legos.... once you figure it out with legos, it's pretty easy... having looked at it my self... i would assume that only one of the wheels (per side) or all are driven, but the suspension system is very simplistic... infact, i can remember a GI-Joe toy i owned as a kid having the same thing... this is very exciting for me.... i wish i had a hand board and a boat load of legos!!! i can afford the handy board... but the legos are WAY out of my price range.... 32c33 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2437 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 30 Lines: 28 17,26c18,26 I have been using the Handyboard successfully for over 6 months. = Recently I've decided to mount it on my robot base. After all the dust = settled last night, I powered up the Handyboard. Since I put the = batteries elsewhere on the robot, I put a keyed connector between the = batteries and the Handyboard (for future expansion!). Since the battery = was disconnected for some time, when I applied power I just got the dark = row of blocks on the LCD. I figure, no big deal, I just lost the pcode. = So I use hbdl to reload the pcode. All seems to go well. I reboot the = Handyboard and the "Interactive C V 2.81..." banner appears on the LCD. = I then try to start IC on the PC with the following problems. I have been using the Handyboard successfully for over 6 months. Recently I've decided to mount it on my robot base. After all the dust settled last night, I powered up the Handyboard. Since I put the batteries elsewhere on the robot, I put a keyed connector between the batteries and the Handyboard (for future expansion!). Since the battery was disconnected for some time, when I applied power I just got the dark row of blocks on the LCD. I figure, no big deal, I just lost the pcode. So I use hbdl to reload the pcode. All seems to go well. I reboot the Handyboard and the "Interactive C V 2.81..." banner appears on the LCD. I then try to start IC on the PC with the following problems. 28,29c28 1) IC stays at 'Synchronizing with board' until I reset the = handyboard. 1) IC stays at 'Synchronizing with board' until I reset the handyboard. 35,36c34,35 I have tried various pcodes (downloaded directly from the Handyboard = page v3.1 for the retail version as well as v2.81 freeware). I have tried various pcodes (downloaded directly from the Handyboard page v3.1 for the retail version as well as v2.81 freeware). 40,41c39,40 My question is this. It seems as though one bit is sticking high (10d = =3D 1010b, 02d =3D 0010b). But why would the LCD work then?=20 My question is this. It seems as though one bit is sticking high (10d = 1010b, 02d = 0010b). But why would the LCD work then? 47d45
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2491 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 </bold><x-quoted>The problem with ordering from the USA is that</x-quoted> = <x-quoted>customs charge taxes/duty on goods over ?145 (=24237 approx.) whi= ch</x-quoted> <x-quoted>increases the cost. </bold><x-quoted>The problem with ordering from the USA is that</x-quoted> <x-quoted>customs charge taxes/duty on goods over ?145 ($237 approx.) which</x-quoted> <x-quoted>increases the cost. 25,31c26,28 In Canada custom charges/duty added just short of =2480 dollars to the pric= e of acquiring a handyboard. With the U.S exchange, the board reached =2452= 5 canadian, ouch=21 In Canada custom charges/duty added just short of $80 dollars to the price of acquiring a handyboard. With the U.S exchange, the board reached $525 canadian, ouch!
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2501 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 8 Lines: 7 19,20c20 do it via the SPI port. I need aprox. 50 meters between handyboards.Can t= he do it via the SPI port. I need aprox. 50 meters between handyboards.Can the 24c24 Germ=E1n Gentile Germán Gentile 26,28d25
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2514 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 13 Lines: 11 19,21c20,21 do it via the SPI port. I need aprox. 50 meters between handyboards.Can t= he SPI support that distance ??? If don't how i can do that.=20 do it via the SPI port. I need aprox. 50 meters between handyboards.Can the SPI support that distance ??? If don't how i can do that. 23,24c23 I don't know if use SPI, RS-232 or RS-485 (with a adapter) please any hel= p I don't know if use SPI, RS-232 or RS-485 (with a adapter) please any help 26c25 beatifoul. I still have this problem :(.=20 beatifoul. I still have this problem :(. 29c28 Germ=E1n Gentile Germán Gentile 31,34d29
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2526 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 23,25c24,25 >=20 > I want to connect various handyboard in a ring configuration, and i thi= nk > > I want to connect various handyboard in a ring configuration, and i think 28,29c28,29 > SPI support that distance ??? If don't how i can do that.=20 >=20 > SPI support that distance ??? If don't how i can do that. > 33c33 > beatifoul. I still have this problem :(.=20 > beatifoul. I still have this problem :(. 35,36c35,36 >=20 > Germ=E1n Gentile > > Germán Gentile 38,41c38,39 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2551 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 23,25c24,25 >=20 > I want to connect various handyboard in a ring configuration, and i thi= nk > > I want to connect various handyboard in a ring configuration, and i think 28,29c28,29 > SPI support that distance ??? If don't how i can do that.=20 >=20 > SPI support that distance ??? If don't how i can do that. > 33c33 > beatifoul. I still have this problem :(.=20 > beatifoul. I still have this problem :(. 35,36c35,36 >=20 > Germ=E1n Gentile > > Germán Gentile 38,41c38,39 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2552 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 50,51c51 "Y'en a pas d'probl=E8mes!" "Y'en a pas d'problèmes!"
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2575 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 24 Lines: 22 27c28 about import tariffs and such. I was told that the limit was =A319 for about import tariffs and such. I was told that the limit was £19 for 38,40c39 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D ===================================================== 43,45d41
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2585 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 36 Lines: 34 20c21 and paid =A312 for money delivered in 5 working days, or =A317 for two. and paid £12 for money delivered in 5 working days, or £17 for two. 23,25c24,25 Kit A DB-9 or DB-25 (please select one of them, this depends which COM po= rt available in your computer). US$190.00=20 Kit A DB-9 or DB-25 (please select one of them, this depends which COM port available in your computer). US$190.00 44,45c44 enclosure. They are very easy to obtain anywhere, and they also cause som= e enclosure. They are very easy to obtain anywhere, and they also cause some 47c46 =20 54,56d52
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2591 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,25c20,26 First my apolgies for my bad english (my dutch is mutch better but = afcouse thats becoust dutch is my first language).=20 anyway. im working on a robot and use lego to test the best way for = moving a robot. i see 3 options.. 2 weels, 4 weels (like a nomal car) = and caterpilar. i wonder what your experiences are whit those technics. = and what way is best to make a robot that can move around in a way you = can folow it whitin your computer program. First my apolgies for my bad english (my dutch is mutch better but afcouse thats becoust dutch is my first language). anyway. im working on a robot and use lego to test the best way for moving a robot. i see 3 options.. 2 weels, 4 weels (like a nomal car) and caterpilar. i wonder what your experiences are whit those technics. and what way is best to make a robot that can move around in a way you can folow it whitin your computer program. 29,30d29
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2599 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 41c42 DataReach=99 FAQ. How can I direct multiple RS-232 data, Bar Code DataReach™ FAQ. How can I direct multiple RS-232 data, Bar Code 85,86d85
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2637 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 11 Lines: 10 19,20c20 For that matter, can anyone else suggest some good (and affordable...) bo= oks? For that matter, can anyone else suggest some good (and affordable...) books? 28,30d27
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2693 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 27 Lines: 26 20,23c21,23 Some time ago I bought a toy that runs off 2 - 1.5 volt batteries. The cont= roller board has a PIC on it, control of the toy was via a TV remote, and = it ran two separate motors for the drive train. There is also an on/off swi= tch. Some time ago I bought a toy that runs off 2 - 1.5 volt batteries. The controller board has a PIC on it, control of the toy was via a TV remote, and it ran two separate motors for the drive train. There is also an on/off switch. 26,29c26,29 My question - I want to make use of the program in the PIC and will like to= incorporate the PIC board with a handyboard. Is this possible? I am really= short on electronics understanding - but I do know I don't want to smoke m= y handyboard=21 My question - I want to make use of the program in the PIC and will like to incorporate the PIC board with a handyboard. Is this possible? I am really short on electronics understanding - but I do know I don't want to smoke my handyboard! 32,34c32,34 I am hoping that the PIC board could get power from the handyboard. Is it p= ossible to have the handyboard transmit I.R. controls to the PIC board inst= ead of the TV remote? I am hoping that the PIC board could get power from the handyboard. Is it possible to have the handyboard transmit I.R. controls to the PIC board instead of the TV remote? 44,47d43
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2720 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 26 Lines: 19 17,18c18 I have a limited supply of Motorola MC68HC711E9CFN2 chips I will trade fo= r I have a limited supply of Motorola MC68HC711E9CFN2 chips I will trade for 20,23c20,21 Handy Board Components (Motor Drivers, IR receivers, LCDs etc). The 12K= OTP = Handy Board Components (Motor Drivers, IR receivers, LCDs etc). The 12K OTP 26,28c24 The chips come with the OTP ROM contents zeroed and the config byte set t= o = The chips come with the OTP ROM contents zeroed and the config byte set to 31,32c27 EEPROM. = EEPROM. 34,35c29 Please reply to my email address and not the list if you are interested o= r Please reply to my email address and not the list if you are interested or 42,45c36 =
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2729 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 I have a wire guided car that I want to us as a robot platform. It has diff= erential steering. The wiring of the two motors has a total of 3 wires with= a jumper cable between the two motors. I have a wire guided car that I want to us as a robot platform. It has differential steering. The wiring of the two motors has a total of 3 wires with a jumper cable between the two motors. 25,27c26,28 Can I wire the existing black, red, white wire to the handy board? Or do I = need to remove the existing 3 wires and attach a wire to each motor termina= l and use two motor ports on my handy board? Can I wire the existing black, red, white wire to the handy board? Or do I need to remove the existing 3 wires and attach a wire to each motor terminal and use two motor ports on my handy board? 33,35c34,36 Each motor has a capacitor between the terminals to eliminate voltage spike= s. Is this necessary? Should I leave them be or take them off before I conn= ect the motors to the handy board? Each motor has a capacitor between the terminals to eliminate voltage spikes. Is this necessary? Should I leave them be or take them off before I connect the motors to the handy board? 38,39c39,40 Thank you for your time and assistance. I look forward to actually attachin= g something to my handyboard. Thank you for your time and assistance. I look forward to actually attaching something to my handyboard. 43,46d43
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2730 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 I have a wire guided car that I want to us as a robot platform. It has diff= erential steering. The wiring of the two motors has a total of 3 wires with= a jumper cable between the two motors. I have a wire guided car that I want to us as a robot platform. It has differential steering. The wiring of the two motors has a total of 3 wires with a jumper cable between the two motors. 25,27c26,28 Can I wire the existing black, red, white wire to the handy board? Or do I = need to remove the existing 3 wires and attach a wire to each motor termina= l and use two motor ports on my handy board? Can I wire the existing black, red, white wire to the handy board? Or do I need to remove the existing 3 wires and attach a wire to each motor terminal and use two motor ports on my handy board? 33,35c34,36 Each motor has a capacitor between the terminals to eliminate voltage spike= s. Is this necessary? Should I leave them be or take them off before I conn= ect the motors to the handy board? Each motor has a capacitor between the terminals to eliminate voltage spikes. Is this necessary? Should I leave them be or take them off before I connect the motors to the handy board? 38,39c39,40 Thank you for your time and assistance. I look forward to actually attachin= g something to my handyboard. Thank you for your time and assistance. I look forward to actually attaching something to my handyboard. 43,46d43
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2746 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15,19c16 Lines: 5 does anybody have a circuit for a polariod sonar/traking system, I've got= three polariod transducers in my spare's box and I desperatly want to use= Lines: 3 20a18,19 does anybody have a circuit for a polariod sonar/traking system, I've got three polariod transducers in my spare's box and I desperatly want to use 22d20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2755 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 39 Lines: 35 19c20 =46rom the "other" mailing list I'm on (BEAM robotics), try: From the "other" mailing list I'm on (BEAM robotics), try: 33,34c34,35 >looking for a cheap source of solar cells... I wanna make something = around 8 volts and between .5 to 1 amp >looking for a cheap source of solar cells... I wanna make something around 8 >volts and between .5 to 1 amp 36,37c37,38 >The load will be that of a "modified" rc car motor (ball bearings, slot = armature, 15 winds) >The load will be that of a "modified" rc car motor (ball bearings, slot >armature, 15 winds) 47,51c48,50 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ "When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal = drugs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs. 53,54c52 When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a = gun. When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a gun. 56,58c54 = -www.paranoia.com -www.paranoia.com
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2757 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 44 Lines: 40 34,35c35,36 >=20 >I did. The sonar rangefinder is almost identical to the=20 > >I did. The sonar rangefinder is almost identical to the 52,56c53,55 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ "When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal = drugs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs. 58,59c57 When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a = gun. When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a gun. 61,63c59 = -www.paranoia.com -www.paranoia.com
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2758 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 7 Lines: 5 18,19c19 transducers on the handyboard, I have two such transducers, but havint go= t transducers on the handyboard, I have two such transducers, but havint got 21,22c21 very interested in what Bill Richman has in his basement, please look the= m very interested in what Bill Richman has in his basement, please look them 24d22
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2776 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,27c21,22 </bold><x-quoted>I've received four error messages from</x-quoted> <x-quote= d>media.mit.edu. Is this usual?</x-quoted> The last message that I personally sent to the handyboard list returned 8 e= rror messages regarding bounced undelivered messages. </bold><x-quoted>I've received four error messages from</x-quoted> <x-quoted>media.mit.edu. Is this usual?</x-quoted> 29a25,26 The last message that I personally sent to the handyboard list returned 8 error messages regarding bounced undelivered messages.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2837 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 96 Lines: 89 38c39 > Cc=A0: roundtable@zerius.uvic.ca > Cc : roundtable@zerius.uvic.ca 40,41c41,42 > Date=A0: vendredi 10 octobre 1997 14:00 >=20 > Date : vendredi 10 octobre 1997 14:00 > 46,49c47,49 > the second stage and it failed. =20 >=20 > It gives me a serial recieve time out error. I am pretty certain that = I > the second stage and it failed. > > It gives me a serial recieve time out error. I am pretty certain that I 52c52 >=20 > 54c54 >=20 > 57,58c57 > from the charger to the CPU board. I bought a straight through DB25 ma= le > from the charger to the CPU board. I bought a straight through DB25 male 62,64c61,62 > is always on when the handyboard is connected to the PC and the PC is o= n. >=20 > is always on when the handyboard is connected to the PC and the PC is on. > 66c64 >=20 > 75c73 >=20 > 77,79c75,76 >=20 > Now I've tryed everything... replacing the phone cord(The phone cord ha= s > > Now I've tryed everything... replacing the phone cord(The phone cord has 82,85c79,80 > I have tryed checking all the soldering on the board and the orientatio= n > of capacitors and chips. The handyboard passed all the tests until thi= s=20 > I have tryed checking all the soldering on the board and the orientation > of capacitors and chips. The handyboard passed all the tests until this 88c83 >=20 > 90,92c85,86 >=20 > 1) The serial cable: I think I may have baught the wrong type of seria= l > > 1) The serial cable: I think I may have baught the wrong type of serial 96c90 >=20 > 101c95 >=20 > 103c97 >=20 > 107c101 >=20 > 110c104 >=20 > 112c106 >=20 > 114d107
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2851 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 122 Lines: 119 41c42 ..............................................Done. =20 ..............................................Done. 45c46 =20 49c50 run, the serial light on the chargerboard and on the=20 run, the serial light on the chargerboard and on the 59c60 cable running from the charger to the CPU board.=20 cable running from the charger to the CPU board. 62,63c63 is always on when the handyboard is connected to the PC and the PC is = on. is always on when the handyboard is connected to the PC and the PC is on. 74,77c74,75 7) The dowloader begin the second stage within flash of the serial = light. 8) I think the second stage is OK. But the serial light state during = this 7) The dowloader begin the second stage within flash of the serial light. 8) I think the second stage is OK. But the serial light state during this 97c95 Now I've tryed everything...=20 Now I've tryed everything...
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2888 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,20c18,21 I was wondering if anyone has attempted to transmit data from a pc to a = HB device using a standard RC transmitter and receiver. My goal is to = be able to control an HB driven robot using a PC's joystick. Any help = or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I was wondering if anyone has attempted to transmit data from a pc to a HB device using a standard RC transmitter and receiver. My goal is to be able to control an HB driven robot using a PC's joystick. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 25d25
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2896 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,20c18,21 My goal is to read various input devices ie joystick, keyboard, etc. = encode the data into some sort of bit or ascii stream and then transmit = it to the HB for decoding and if possible transmit from the HB back to = the PC for telemetry such as position, battery power, etc. My goal is to read various input devices ie joystick, keyboard, etc. encode the data into some sort of bit or ascii stream and then transmit it to the HB for decoding and if possible transmit from the HB back to the PC for telemetry such as position, battery power, etc. 47,48c48,49 >=20 >=20 > > 53c54 >=20 > 55c56 >=20 > 57,59c58 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2913 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 can supply them as a set of HB and IF/Charger board for =A319-50 sterling can supply them as a set of HB and IF/Charger board for £19-50 sterling 33,34d33
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2920 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 17,19c18,20 I have a 1 meg quicktime movie of the honda hominid robot.... (I'm = saying hominid because it sounds better than 2 legger... if there is a = better word.. please inform me...) I have a 1 meg quicktime movie of the honda hominid robot.... (I'm saying hominid because it sounds better than 2 legger... if there is a better word.. please inform me...) 24,36c25,29 If you want it... e-mail me with the words "GIVE IT TO ME" in the = subject..... if you don't e-mail me with that title, you won't get it... = even if I realize that you are just a lamer who can't read = instructions.... In fact.... I might just upload my old and fat lady = porn collection to you... (which means I'll have to build up a = collection asap) Please... I do this as a service... I want to share it.... Don't make it = hard on me.... I don't know how many times I've done stuff like this only to find a = dozen people didn't listen and I have to sort through the 100 e-mails I = get a day to find the ones that responded to mine. If you want it... e-mail me with the words "GIVE IT TO ME" in the subject..... if you don't e-mail me with that title, you won't get it... even if I realize that you are just a lamer who can't read instructions.... In fact.... I might just upload my old and fat lady porn collection to you... (which means I'll have to build up a collection asap) 37a31,32 Please... I do this as a service... I want to share it.... Don't make it hard on me.... 38a34,36 I don't know how many times I've done stuff like this only to find a dozen people didn't listen and I have to sort through the 100 e-mails I get a day to find the ones that responded to mine.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2921 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 12 Lines: 11 17,20c18,21 To see that a few people are interested in the file... (and that they = follow directions well... ;-) I will send it once tomorrow to appease = the first few... all responses I receive after tomorrow will have to = wait a week just so I don't leave out anyone in.... To see that a few people are interested in the file... (and that they follow directions well... ;-) I will send it once tomorrow to appease the first few... all responses I receive after tomorrow will have to wait a week just so I don't leave out anyone in.... 22,23c23,24 Those of you who thought I'd have an autoresponder.... Hah!!! Not on a = 28.8 connection!!!!! ;-) Those of you who thought I'd have an autoresponder.... Hah!!! Not on a 28.8 connection!!!!! ;-) 25,26c26 Sorry... I lost the link... otherwise I'd save us all a lot of = trouble.... Sorry... I lost the link... otherwise I'd save us all a lot of trouble.... 29,30d28
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2925 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 43 Lines: 38 26,28c27,29 >I have a 1 meg quicktime movie of the honda hominid robot.... (I'm = saying hominid because it sounds better than 2 legger... if there is a = better word.. please inform me...) >I have a 1 meg quicktime movie of the honda hominid robot.... (I'm saying >hominid because it sounds better than 2 legger... if there is a better word.. >please inform me...) 33,38c34,38 >If you want it... e-mail me with the words "GIVE IT TO ME" in the = subject..... if you don't e-mail me with that title, you won't get it... = even if I realize that you are just a lamer who can't read = instructions.... In fact.... I might just upload my old and fat lady porn= collection to you... (which means I'll have to build up a collection = asap) >If you want it... e-mail me with the words "GIVE IT TO ME" in the subject..... >if you don't e-mail me with that title, you won't get it... even if I realize >that you are just a lamer who can't read instructions.... In fact.... I might >just upload my old and fat lady porn collection to you... (which means I'll >have to build up a collection asap) 40,41c40,41 >Please... I do this as a service... I want to share it.... Don't make it= hard on me.... >Please... I do this as a service... I want to share it.... Don't make it hard >on me.... 43,45c43,45 >I don't know how many times I've done stuff like this only to find a = dozen people didn't listen and I have to sort through the 100 e-mails I = get a day to find the ones that responded to mine. >I don't know how many times I've done stuff like this only to find a dozen >people didn't listen and I have to sort through the 100 e-mails I get a day to >find the ones that responded to mine. 51,55c51,53 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ "When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal = drugs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs. 57,58c55 When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a = gun. When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a gun. 60,62c57 = -www.paranoia.com -www.paranoia.com
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2926 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 52 Lines: 46 23,24c24 Subject: Re: qt movie of honda's 2 legger robot... = PLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZ read instructions.... Subject: Re: qt movie of honda's 2 legger robot... PLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZ read instructions.... 33,35c33,35 >I have a 1 meg quicktime movie of the honda hominid robot.... (I'm = saying hominid because it sounds better than 2 legger... if there is a = better word.. please inform me...) >I have a 1 meg quicktime movie of the honda hominid robot.... (I'm saying >hominid because it sounds better than 2 legger... if there is a better word.. >please inform me...) 40,45c40,44 >If you want it... e-mail me with the words "GIVE IT TO ME" in the = subject..... if you don't e-mail me with that title, you won't get it... = even if I realize that you are just a lamer who can't read = instructions.... In fact.... I might just upload my old and fat lady = porn collection to you... (which means I'll have to build up a = collection asap) >If you want it... e-mail me with the words "GIVE IT TO ME" in the subject..... >if you don't e-mail me with that title, you won't get it... even if I realize >that you are just a lamer who can't read instructions.... In fact.... I might >just upload my old and fat lady porn collection to you... (which means I'll >have to build up a collection asap) 47,48c46,47 >Please... I do this as a service... I want to share it.... Don't make = it hard on me.... >Please... I do this as a service... I want to share it.... Don't make it hard >on me.... 50,52c49,51 >I don't know how many times I've done stuff like this only to find a = dozen people didn't listen and I have to sort through the 100 e-mails I = get a day to find the ones that responded to mine. >I don't know how many times I've done stuff like this only to find a dozen >people didn't listen and I have to sort through the 100 e-mails I get a day to >find the ones that responded to mine. 58,62c57,59 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ "When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal = drugs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs. 64,65c61 When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a = gun. When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a gun. 67,70c63 = -www.paranoia.com -www.paranoia.com
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2932 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 40c41 =A319-50 including air mail postage. £19-50 including air mail postage. 52,59d52
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2933 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 41c42 >=A319-50 including air mail postage. >£19-50 including air mail postage. 59,61d59
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2987 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 27c28 En fran=E7ais: En français: 29c30 Nous sommes des =E9tudiants Fran=E7ais, et nous construisons un robot qui Nous sommes des étudiants Français, et nous construisons un robot qui 31,33c32,33 plein d'id=E9es pour r=E9aliser un syst=E8me =E0 la perfection... Donc si vous avez des montages HB pour permettre =E0 un robot de se situe= r plein d'idées pour réaliser un système à la perfection... Donc si vous avez des montages HB pour permettre à un robot de se situer 35d34
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2988 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 27c28 En fran=E7ais: En français: 29c30 Nous sommes des =E9tudiants Fran=E7ais, et nous construisons un robot qui Nous sommes des étudiants Français, et nous construisons un robot qui 31,33c32,33 plein d'id=E9es pour r=E9aliser un syst=E8me =E0 la perfection... Donc si vous avez des montages HB pour permettre =E0 un robot de se situe= r plein d'idées pour réaliser un système à la perfection... Donc si vous avez des montages HB pour permettre à un robot de se situer 35d34
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:2989 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 27c28 En fran=E7ais: En français: 29c30 Nous sommes des =E9tudiants Fran=E7ais, et nous construisons un robot qui Nous sommes des étudiants Français, et nous construisons un robot qui 31,33c32,33 plein d'id=E9es pour r=E9aliser un syst=E8me =E0 la perfection... Donc si vous avez des montages HB pour permettre =E0 un robot de se situe= r plein d'idées pour réaliser un système à la perfection... Donc si vous avez des montages HB pour permettre à un robot de se situer 35d34
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3003 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 27c28 En fran=E7ais: En français: 29c30 Nous sommes des =E9tudiants Fran=E7ais, et nous construisons un robot qui Nous sommes des étudiants Français, et nous construisons un robot qui 31,33c32,33 plein d'id=E9es pour r=E9aliser un syst=E8me =E0 la perfection... Donc si vous avez des montages HB pour permettre =E0 un robot de se situe= r plein d'idées pour réaliser un système à la perfection... Donc si vous avez des montages HB pour permettre à un robot de se situer 35d34
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3034 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 32c33 =A319-50 for the set (main board and charger/if) including £19-50 for the set (main board and charger/if) including 49,51d49
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3044 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26d26
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3046 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 9 Lines: 8 22,23c23 Peut-on utiliser les sorties vid=E9os pour commander un syst=E8me ext=E9r= ieur? Peut-on utiliser les sorties vidéos pour commander un système extérieur? 27,28d26
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3058 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 24 Lines: 23 19,34c20,34 I was wondering if anyone could recommend a speed controller circuit for = controlling a 12VDC motor which could draw up to 25A. I'd like to use = the Handy Board to control its speed. Cost is not a big concern but compactness is. I would consider using a = commercial speed controller if I could find one with the foot print = about 3"x3". I've found many speed controllers at the Tower Hobbies web = page, but I am not sure what sort of input these controllers require. = Has anyone ever interfaced the Handy board to a commercial speed = controller? It looks like these units are designed to connect up with = RC radio equipment. Also, can anyone speak to the pros and cons of digital control verse = analog? I seem like many of the speed controllers use PWM techniques = for motor speed control. My application is not really high tech, so I = was considering a simply power transistor circuit. Any thoughts? =20 I was wondering if anyone could recommend a speed controller circuit for controlling a 12VDC motor which could draw up to 25A. I'd like to use the Handy Board to control its speed. Cost is not a big concern but compactness is. I would consider using a commercial speed controller if I could find one with the foot print about 3"x3". I've found many speed controllers at the Tower Hobbies web page, but I am not sure what sort of input these controllers require. Has anyone ever interfaced the Handy board to a commercial speed controller? It looks like these units are designed to connect up with RC radio equipment. Also, can anyone speak to the pros and cons of digital control verse analog? I seem like many of the speed controllers use PWM techniques for motor speed control. My application is not really high tech, so I was considering a simply power transistor circuit. Any thoughts? 40,42c40 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3078 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 38c39 of my boards is =A319-50 for the pair (Handyboard and of my boards is £19-50 for the pair (Handyboard and 62,68d62
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3084 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 32 Lines: 31 21,22c22,23 What I did is remove this connector and solder a ribbon wire to the = following pins: What I did is remove this connector and solder a ribbon wire to the following pins: 27c28 GND 17=20 GND 17 34c35 =20 36,37c37 *Note: +Vcc =3D 4.8V(min)-6.8V(max) typical 5V 2000mA during TX & 100mA = standby. *Note: +Vcc = 4.8V(min)-6.8V(max) typical 5V 2000mA during TX & 100mA standby. 40c40 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3102 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 94,97c95 Germ=E1n Gentile Germán Gentile
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3108 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,20c18,20 What are the power requirements of the battery backed RAM and would it = be possible to set this RAM up with a lithium battery similar to a PC so = that the RAM would hold its memory for several years? What are the power requirements of the battery backed RAM and would it be possible to set this RAM up with a lithium battery similar to a PC so that the RAM would hold its memory for several years?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3128 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 18,26c19,26 Trying to find all components needed to build a HandyBoard, I have a = quite some troubles finding the 68HC11, which is quite vital, I'd say = ;-). I now found a place where they sell a lot of IC's, but - of course = - not the 68HC11. but they DO sell a 68H11, and the resaler told me the = only difference was that this one used NMos technology, which draws a = little more current. Does anybody now whether I can use these to build = the HandyBoard, and whether they happen to have advantages compared with = the 68HC11? They already told me it's cheaper (about US$ 3, while the = 68HC11 costs about US$ 8 around here). Trying to find all components needed to build a HandyBoard, I have a quite some troubles finding the 68HC11, which is quite vital, I'd say ;-). I now found a place where they sell a lot of IC's, but - of course - not the 68HC11. but they DO sell a 68H11, and the resaler told me the only difference was that this one used NMos technology, which draws a little more current. Does anybody now whether I can use these to build the HandyBoard, and whether they happen to have advantages compared with the 68HC11? They already told me it's cheaper (about US$ 3, while the 68HC11 costs about US$ 8 around here).
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3134 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 29 Lines: 22 18,19c19 I have a limited supply of Motorola MC68HC711E9CFN2 chips I will trade fo= r I have a limited supply of Motorola MC68HC711E9CFN2 chips I will trade for 23,24c23 remotes as well as Gameboy Units and cartridges. = remotes as well as Gameboy Units and cartridges. 27,28c26 the OTP ROM = the OTP ROM 30,33c28,29 internal ROM (which makes = the E9 effectively an E1) and EEPROM. = internal ROM (which makes the E9 effectively an E1) and EEPROM. 35c31 I have two operating HandyBoards using these chips without any problems = I have two operating HandyBoards using these chips without any problems 37,39c33 Please reply to my email address and not the list if you are interested o= r Please reply to my email address and not the list if you are interested or 46,48c40 =
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3140 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,22c19,23 I built an H-Bridge over the weekend to replace the chips on the = Handyboard and I was wondering what pins on the motor control sockets I = need to connect the new circuit to? My circuit has a Forward input and a = Reverse input. I did notice from the schematic that there was an (in1) = and an (in2) (pins 2 and 7), but haven't had much luck with these. I built an H-Bridge over the weekend to replace the chips on the Handyboard and I was wondering what pins on the motor control sockets I need to connect the new circuit to? My circuit has a Forward input and a Reverse input. I did notice from the schematic that there was an (in1) and an (in2) (pins 2 and 7), but haven't had much luck with these.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3179 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,20c18,21 First of all, is it even possible to use an E2 68HC11 variant w/ the HB? = And if so can I d/l to it without having the LCD attached? As it = stands now, I receive an error that the board is in the wrong mode using = HBDL.exe while trying to d/l the pcode_hb.s19. Any ideas? First of all, is it even possible to use an E2 68HC11 variant w/ the HB? And if so can I d/l to it without having the LCD attached? As it stands now, I receive an error that the board is in the wrong mode using HBDL.exe while trying to d/l the pcode_hb.s19. Any ideas? 27,28d27
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3182 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 18c19 Hi,=20 Hi, 20,22c21,22 I got a bag of HC811E2's and would like to know if they can be used = with the handyboard to replace the HC11A1.=20 I got a bag of HC811E2's and would like to know if they can be used with the handyboard to replace the HC11A1.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3190 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 38 Lines: 37 28c29 * so they cannot be used as outputs. If you hook an =92hc374 chip to the * so they cannot be used as outputs. If you hook an ’hc374 chip to the 32c33 * outs. Connect the =92hc374=92s clock line to any of the three unused * outs. Connect the ’hc374’s clock line to any of the three unused 34,35c35 * selects of the =92hc138 (Y0, Y2,or Y4). All of these signals are presen= t * selects of the ’hc138 (Y0, Y2,or Y4). All of these signals are present 56,58d55
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3192 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 31c32 > > * outs. Connect the =92hc374=92s clock line to any of the three unused > > * outs. Connect the ’hc374’s clock line to any of the three unused 33c34 > > * selects of the =92hc138 (Y0, Y2,or Y4). All of these signals are present > > * selects of the ’hc138 (Y0, Y2,or Y4). All of these signals are present 71,74d71
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3197 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 48 Lines: 42 17,20c18,20 LittleFuse makes an identical replacement for the PolyFuse one. Don't = have a name of a distributor on hand except for Sterling Electronics. = Do a web search on LittleFuse and you should be able to get something. = Hope this helps. LittleFuse makes an identical replacement for the PolyFuse one. Don't have a name of a distributor on hand except for Sterling Electronics. Do a web search on LittleFuse and you should be able to get something. Hope this helps. 39,46c39,42 However, the Polyswitch fuse is actually a PTC Thermistor designed to = work as a sort of solid state circuit breaker. These have a variety of = names; look for "PTC fuse", "PTC current limiter", PTC resettable", or the = like, listed either under "fuse" or "thermistor". You need one which will = carry=20 However, the Polyswitch fuse is actually a PTC Thermistor designed to work as a sort of solid state circuit breaker. These have a variety of names; look for "PTC fuse", "PTC current limiter", PTC resettable", or the like, listed either under "fuse" or "thermistor". You need one which will carry 48,49c44 current of 2.5 amps, but will shut off at a maximum of 5 amps, with a = 0.2 current of 2.5 amps, but will shut off at a maximum of 5 amps, with a 0.2 65,66d59
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3202 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3204 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,19c18,20 There was a mention at one time about a version of the pcode and ic that = will work with a HB without a LCD screen is that still available and = where can I get me a copy? Thanks. There was a mention at one time about a version of the pcode and ic that will work with a HB without a LCD screen is that still available and where can I get me a copy? Thanks. 24,25d24
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3227 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 23 Lines: 22 18,26c19,26 Hi All,=20 I have just ordered a Handyboard and while i'm lerning IC i was = wondering if the programs from the book Mobile Robots will work with the = handyboard, my robot is configured similar to Rugwarrior,i.e. three bump = an two IR proximity detector,shaft encoders, two photocell an a = microphone. If the Mobile Robot programs won't run on the handyboard can someone = tell me where i could find a similar compatable program so my robot = doen't have to wait for me to smarten up to get mobile. Hi All, I have just ordered a Handyboard and while i'm lerning IC i was wondering if the programs from the book Mobile Robots will work with the handyboard, my robot is configured similar to Rugwarrior,i.e. three bump an two IR proximity detector,shaft encoders, two photocell an a microphone. If the Mobile Robot programs won't run on the handyboard can someone tell me where i could find a similar compatable program so my robot doen't have to wait for me to smarten up to get mobile. 28c28 Any help would be appreciated as i'm very new to microcontrollers and C = Any help would be appreciated as i'm very new to microcontrollers and C
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3228 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22,23c23,24 Germ=E1n Pablo Gentile. Genesys - Ingenier=EDa en Sistemas. Germán Pablo Gentile. Genesys - Ingeniería en Sistemas. 28,31d28
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3234 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 28c29 Fran=E7ois François
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3241 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24,25c25,26 Germ=E1n Pablo Gentile. Genesys - Ingenier=EDa en Sistemas. Germán Pablo Gentile. Genesys - Ingeniería en Sistemas. 30,33d30
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3242 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 De: Germ=E1n Gentile <ggentile@cvtci.com.ar> Para: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis@FreeGate.net>; Lista de Rob=F3tica General De: Germán Gentile <ggentile@cvtci.com.ar> Para: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis@FreeGate.net>; Lista de Robótica General 25c26 Fecha: Mi=E9rcoles 11 de Febrero de 1998 14:11 Fecha: Miércoles 11 de Febrero de 1998 14:11 35,36c36,37 >Germ=E1n Pablo Gentile. >Genesys - Ingenier=EDa en Sistemas. >Germán Pablo Gentile. >Genesys - Ingeniería en Sistemas. 43,45d43
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3252 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,23c19,23 I am attempting to use the shaft encoder routines but am = having trouble.When I try to load the file fencoder0.icb I get a message = that ic cannot find the file.Any hints? Also I would like to know whether these routines count off one edge = of a pulse or what dictates how the count is incremented. I am attempting to use the shaft encoder routines but am having trouble.When I try to load the file fencoder0.icb I get a message that ic cannot find the file.Any hints? Also I would like to know whether these routines count off one edge of a pulse or what dictates how the count is incremented.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3269 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 65 Lines: 53 25,28c26,27 > I am attempting to use the shaft encoder routines but am = having trouble.When I try to load the file fencoder0.icb I get a message that = ic > I am attempting to use the shaft encoder routines but am having trouble.When I try to load the file fencoder0.icb I get a message that ic 30,31c29 > Also I would like to know whether these routines count off one edge = of a > Also I would like to know whether these routines count off one edge of a 34c32 I think the file is named fencdr0.icb by default (not fencoder.icb).=20 I think the file is named fencdr0.icb by default (not fencoder.icb). 37,38c35 it's just that simple (I hope)? Also, it's probably easiest if it's in = the it's just that simple (I hope)? Also, it's probably easiest if it's in the 41,44c38,39 These encoder routines seem to simply monitor the analog port and = increase the count whenever the reading drops below the low threshold or goes = above These encoder routines seem to simply monitor the analog port and increase the count whenever the reading drops below the low threshold or goes above 47c42 [Joe Martin] [Joe Martin] [Joe Martin] =20 [Joe Martin] [Joe Martin] [Joe Martin] 49,51c44,46 Does this mean that if you have a very slow pulse the encoder routine = may increment more than one time per pulse or is it triggered of only on = a rising or falling edge? Does this mean that if you have a very slow pulse the encoder routine may increment more than one time per pulse or is it triggered of only on a rising or falling edge? 55,57c50,51 print the value on the analog port repeatedly in a loop while spinning = the shaft around, and making a note of the low and high readings. =20 print the value on the analog port repeatedly in a loop while spinning the shaft around, and making a note of the low and high readings. 59,66c53,56 Hall-effect magnetic sensors, for example, only range between about 110 = and 135, so I set the low threshold to 115 and the high to 130, and they = work great. Your results will vary depending on the type of sensors you're = using (IR transceiver, etc.), but if you calibrate them correctly, you'll be = off Hall-effect magnetic sensors, for example, only range between about 110 and 135, so I set the low threshold to 115 and the high to 130, and they work great. Your results will vary depending on the type of sensors you're using (IR transceiver, etc.), but if you calibrate them correctly, you'll be off 69,70c59 Try the slow versions of the routines first (e.g. sencdr0.icb) instead = of Try the slow versions of the routines first (e.g. sencdr0.icb) instead of 82,84d70
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3276 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 7 Lines: 6 17,19c18,19 Has anyone been able to successfully use Thomas Hauri's PW measuring = routines?? For some reason whenever I try to load them they crash my = IC. Any thoughts?? Has anyone been able to successfully use Thomas Hauri's PW measuring routines?? For some reason whenever I try to load them they crash my IC. Any thoughts?? 24,25d23
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3285 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 27 29,32c30,31 >I have been using LEGO 9v motors for a few years and I am very pleased = with >the results. I run freshman and sophomore engineering design and = computer >I have been using LEGO 9v motors for a few years and I am very pleased with >the results. I run freshman and sophomore engineering design and computer 35,36c34 >basketball playing robots, a successful IEEE micromouse, and very = successful >basketball playing robots, a successful IEEE micromouse, and very successful 38,41c36,37 >motors. I used surplus DC motors in the past, but we encountered too = many >problems including mounting/interfacing to LEGO, alignment, current = demands, >motors. I used surplus DC motors in the past, but we encountered too many >problems including mounting/interfacing to LEGO, alignment, current demands, 51d46
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3289 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 10 Lines: 9 17,22c18,22 Does anyone have a temp 3 week reg code for IC 3.x that I could use?? = Im having problems loading the frequency measuring routinues provided on = this mailing list and I believe it might be because I'm still using IC = 2.8 and the routines have been tested and used on IC 3.x. I dont want = to have to put up $35 for the reg if it wont solve my problems. Thanks. = =20 Does anyone have a temp 3 week reg code for IC 3.x that I could use?? Im having problems loading the frequency measuring routinues provided on this mailing list and I believe it might be because I'm still using IC 2.8 and the routines have been tested and used on IC 3.x. I dont want to have to put up $35 for the reg if it wont solve my problems. Thanks. 27,28d26
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3298 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,19c19,20 Hello I=B4m a beginner. I have problems download pccode in my HB. I=B4ve a Mac G3 and I use Init board HB 7.2 modem & 6811 Downloader. Hello I´m a beginner. I have problems download pccode in my HB. I´ve a Mac G3 and I use Init board HB 7.2 modem & 6811 Downloader. 30,31d30
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3299 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 You are rigth, I=B4ve load in a Macintosh CI. You are rigth, I´ve load in a Macintosh CI. 26c27 =BFIs it possible to buy the password key for IC 3.1 (Mac) in another ¿Is it possible to buy the password key for IC 3.1 (Mac) in another 28,29d28
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3300 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 23 Lines: 22 19c20 without any answer.=20 without any answer. 26,27c27,28 > Date: jeudi 19 f=E9vrier 1998 17:35 > =C0: HANDYBOARD > Date: jeudi 19 février 1998 17:35 > À: HANDYBOARD 29c30 >=20 > 31c32 > You are rigth, I=B4ve load in a Macintosh CI. > You are rigth, I´ve load in a Macintosh CI. 34c35 >=20 > 37,39c38,39 >=20 > =BFIs it possible to buy the password key for IC 3.1 (Mac) in = another > > ¿Is it possible to buy the password key for IC 3.1 (Mac) in another 41d40
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3313 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 I=B4m trying to connect a IR emitter/receiver boar (Rur Warrior scheme) . I=B4m going to convert SPI pins in two digital outputs. Can I use the I´m trying to connect a IR emitter/receiver boar (Rur Warrior scheme) . I´m going to convert SPI pins in two digital outputs. Can I use the 26,28d26
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3331 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 28c29 >without any answer.=20 >without any answer. 35,36c36,37 >> Date: jeudi 19 f=E9vrier 1998 17:35 >> =C0: HANDYBOARD >> Date: jeudi 19 février 1998 17:35 >> À: HANDYBOARD 38c39 >>=20 >> 40c41 >> You are rigth, I=B4ve load in a Macintosh CI. >> You are rigth, I´ve load in a Macintosh CI. 43c44 >>=20 >> 46,47c47,48 >>=20 >> =BFIs it possible to buy the password key for IC 3.1 (Mac) in another >> >> ¿Is it possible to buy the password key for IC 3.1 (Mac) in another 54d54
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3333 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 18,25c19,25 I am having troubles getting my ir sensor to work I did everything that = is said in the technical reference and when I try to retrieve the data = all I get is 255 the first time and 0 all the other times. I tried to = deactivate it then activate it and retrieve the data but I still get 255 = when I press a different button on my remote. I am using an all in one = remote which is compatible to the sony remotes. I also have a pcbug11 = program and don't understand a thing about that. I need help in the next = few days.thanks I am having troubles getting my ir sensor to work I did everything that is said in the technical reference and when I try to retrieve the data all I get is 255 the first time and 0 all the other times. I tried to deactivate it then activate it and retrieve the data but I still get 255 when I press a different button on my remote. I am using an all in one remote which is compatible to the sony remotes. I also have a pcbug11 program and don't understand a thing about that. I need help in the next few days.thanks
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3337 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 36,37c37,38 > >> Date: jeudi 19 f=E9vrier 1998 17:35 > >> =C0: HANDYBOARD > >> Date: jeudi 19 février 1998 17:35 > >> À: HANDYBOARD 41c42 > >> You are rigth, I=B4ve load in a Macintosh CI. > >> You are rigth, I´ve load in a Macintosh CI. 49c50 --=20 -- 54d54
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3346 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 42 Lines: 41 19,21c20,22 I'm a new owner of the handy board and I have sereval problems to use = the outputs and, as I'm new on the mailing list, I may ask questions = already asked before or stupid questions so I apologize in advance. I'm a new owner of the handy board and I have sereval problems to use the outputs and, as I'm new on the mailing list, I may ask questions already asked before or stupid questions so I apologize in advance. 26,32c27,29 If possible, please be so kind to explain me (I want to transmit not = only characters but also float and double so I think the program called = serialio.c is not enough and I don't see hopw to use this base of code). 2 ) Is the last version of IC compatible with former ones (i.e. if I = write a program with the DOS version of IC, will it run on the last one = ) ? If possible, please be so kind to explain me (I want to transmit not only characters but also float and double so I think the program called serialio.c is not enough and I don't see hopw to use this base of code). 34,35c31,35 3 ) I want to use the port D0..7 of the handy board to communicate with = my own external expansion board but many questions appear : 2 ) Is the last version of IC compatible with former ones (i.e. if I write a program with the DOS version of IC, will it run on the last one ) ? 3 ) I want to use the port D0..7 of the handy board to communicate with my own external expansion board but many questions appear : 40,43c40,43 32 ) How could I write something in an output (I don't understand the = way of working of the poke function) : 321 ) How to write in Port As and R/W of the handy board (if = possible) ? 32 ) How could I write something in an output (I don't understand the way of working of the poke function) : 321 ) How to write in Port As and R/W of the handy board (if possible) ? 47,48c47,48 323 ) Is there a way to be sure that I have the good value on = the port ? 323 ) Is there a way to be sure that I have the good value on the port ? 59,60d58
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3381 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,27c20,28 I wrote a program to collect data off an analog port. I set up an int = array. I find that=20 the array could be no more that 70 or so before I get a stack overflow. = Sometimes the program loads and I get a runtime error #4. I tried = getting rid of all possible files, yet I could not increase the array = size. Is there something I am missing? or is it that this is the limit = because of available memory? Also, is it possible to send data up to the host PC at a rate faster = than 9600 baud? I wrote a program to collect data off an analog port. I set up an int array. I find that the array could be no more that 70 or so before I get a stack overflow. Sometimes the program loads and I get a runtime error #4. I tried getting rid of all possible files, yet I could not increase the array size. Is there something I am missing? or is it that this is the limit because of available memory? Also, is it possible to send data up to the host PC at a rate faster than 9600 baud?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3389 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 11 Lines: 10 18,19c19 I'm using a handyboard with imagecraft C. how i can make beep my = handy???? I'm using a handyboard with imagecraft C. how i can make beep my handy????
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3390 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 I=B4m trying to use the ir output & ir receiver in my HB to control I´m trying to use the ir output & ir receiver in my HB to control 22,24d22
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3401 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 38,44c39 Fran=E7ois François
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3408 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,19c19,20 I cant't make beep my handy, anyone can tell me how make it using = Imagecraft C???? I cant't make beep my handy, anyone can tell me how make it using Imagecraft C????
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3416 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 18,22c19,22 Please anybody tell me how i can beep my handyboard with imagecraft C. = Sorryfor send that again , but nobody send me a answer so , pls , give = me a little explication on how i can do that. I only want to play a beep = like i do with th IC. In Imagecraft C don't exist libraries for that, so = pls help me. Please anybody tell me how i can beep my handyboard with imagecraft C. Sorryfor send that again , but nobody send me a answer so , pls , give me a little explication on how i can do that. I only want to play a beep like i do with th IC. In Imagecraft C don't exist libraries for that, so pls help me.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3425 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 20,23c21,23 I've connected a mabuchi rs280 motor to the handyboard. When activated = with the following command, "motor(0,12);" the motor speeds up and then = stops, and the board also beeps. the ratings for the motor are as = follows I've connected a mabuchi rs280 motor to the handyboard. When activated with the following command, "motor(0,12);" the motor speeds up and then stops, and the board also beeps. the ratings for the motor are as follows 28,30c28,30 there is no specs for the maximum current. Has anyone tried using these, = or do any of you know what is causing it to mis-operate in this way? =20 there is no specs for the maximum current. Has anyone tried using these, or do any of you know what is causing it to mis-operate in this way? 32c32 Jose=20 Jose
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3448 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 27,29c28 Fran=E7ois François
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3450 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 =09Hello Fran=E7ois, HandyBoard group, Hello François, HandyBoard group, 20,32c21,33 =09We had a similar problem when we tried using an R/C model =09as a mobile base platform for our robot. =09Searching the net turned up the LMD18200 (3A, 55V H-Bridge) =09from National Semiconductors, which was suitable for our =09needs =09=09 (http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LMD18200.html). =09It can be ordered from Wirz Electronics =09=09(http://wirz.com/motor/board.html) =09I believe that the 10A continuous mode you require would =09increase the size of the component considerably. Do you =09have size/weight restrictions? We had a similar problem when we tried using an R/C model as a mobile base platform for our robot. Searching the net turned up the LMD18200 (3A, 55V H-Bridge) from National Semiconductors, which was suitable for our needs (http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LMD18200.html). It can be ordered from Wirz Electronics (http://wirz.com/motor/board.html) I believe that the 10A continuous mode you require would increase the size of the component considerably. Do you have size/weight restrictions? 35c36 =09------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ 38c39 ------------------------------------------------------------=20 ------------------------------------------------------------ 43c44 On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Fran=E7ois wrote: On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, François wrote: 46c47 >=20 > 52c53 >=20 > 54,57c55,56 > Fran=E7ois >=20 > François >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3453 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 30 Lines: 28 29c30 > From: Fran=E7ois [mailto:moonfish@club-internet.fr] > From: François [mailto:moonfish@club-internet.fr] 33,34c34,35 >=20 >=20 > > 36,38c37,38 >=20 > I am also searching for a preassembled H-Bridge (12 Volt max 10 Amp = in > > I am also searching for a preassembled H-Bridge (12 Volt max 10 Amp in 40,41c40 > If anyone knows a good place to order one, I would be very = interested. > If anyone knows a good place to order one, I would be very interested. 44c43 >=20 > 46,48c45,46 > Fran=E7ois >=20 > François >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3455 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 35 Lines: 31 20,21c21 talking about the H-Bridge.....we are building one here for a 1.5 kW moto= r talking about the H-Bridge.....we are building one here for a 1.5 kW motor 23,26c23,24 This one works with 400V but is also developped for a current of a little= more than 10 A (actually 15A). It will be chopped with a frequency of up= This one works with 400V but is also developped for a current of a little more than 10 A (actually 15A). It will be chopped with a frequency of up 32,33c30 don't think that there is an integrated 10A H-Bridge. I've found some 3A= don't think that there is an integrated 10A H-Bridge. I've found some 3A 42c39 Fran=E7ois schrieb: François schrieb: 53,57c50 > Fran=E7ois > François
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3459 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 33,44c34 Fran=E7ois François
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3460 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 28c29 Fran=E7ois wrote: François wrote: 31d31
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3461 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 What I=B4m looking for is a program that can convert midi input (from the What I´m looking for is a program that can convert midi input (from the 32c33 Nedre M=F8llenberggt 9 Nedre Møllenberggt 9 37,39d37
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3465 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 26 Lines: 25 24,26c25,26 Unfortunately my technical knowledge isn=B4t sufficient to see if this would be a lot of work to make it possible, or if it=B4s a simple programming task= =2E Unfortunately my technical knowledge isn´t sufficient to see if this would be a lot of work to make it possible, or if it´s a simple programming task. 39c39 Nedre M=F8llenberggt 9 Nedre Møllenberggt 9 44,46d43
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3476 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 29 Lines: 22 23,24c24 So, basicaklly, see how it sends information and then write up code for t= he So, basicaklly, see how it sends information and then write up code for the 31,32c31 >I was wondering whether it would be difficult to connect a handyboard wi= th >I was wondering whether it would be difficult to connect a handyboard with 35,36c34 >It could be interesting to be able to trigger external devices by using = the >It could be interesting to be able to trigger external devices by using the 38,45c36,39 >Unfortunately my technical knowledge isn=B4t sufficient to see if this w= ould >be a lot of work to make it possible, or if it=B4s a simple programming = task. >There are written terminal emulator programs and VISCA controller softwa= re >for the Palmpilot, so I see some interesting uses for it if it can also = be >Unfortunately my technical knowledge isn´t sufficient to see if this would >be a lot of work to make it possible, or if it´s a simple programming task. >There are written terminal emulator programs and VISCA controller software >for the Palmpilot, so I see some interesting uses for it if it can also be 47,49d40
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3507 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26c27 Fran=E7ois G. François G. 93,94d93
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3620 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,20c19,21 Hello: =20 I have a V2x compass and I was trying to hook it into my handyboard = using Tom Brusehaver's .icb, .c and instructions as described in the Hello: I have a V2x compass and I was trying to hook it into my handyboard using Tom Brusehaver's .icb, .c and instructions as described in the 43c44 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3643 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 We tried to link two Handy Board, via the RJ11 computer connectors, in = order to make them communicate with the code we found at = We tried to link two Handy Board, via the RJ11 computer connectors, in order to make them communicate with the code we found at 22,23c23,24 But, when we plugged the cable, the Handy Boards began to smoke next to = these connectors. But, when we plugged the cable, the Handy Boards began to smoke next to these connectors. 25,26c26,27 If someone know how, please send us the schemes and (if possible) the C = code to have them communicate. :) If someone know how, please send us the schemes and (if possible) the C code to have them communicate. :) 32,33d32
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3645 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 33 Lines: 30 21c22 Fecha: Mi=E9rcoles 15 de Abril de 1998 06:27 Fecha: Miércoles 15 de Abril de 1998 06:27 33,36c34,35 Yeah, because if you see the cable, you are swapping the VCC and GND betw= een the boards, you know , one board is right , but the other is getting the = 12V Yeah, because if you see the cable, you are swapping the VCC and GND between the boards, you know , one board is right , but the other is getting the 12V 40,41c39 (The boards are near or far?) I haven't code for ths SPI comuncattion, bu= t (The boards are near or far?) I haven't code for ths SPI comuncattion, but 51,54d48
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3655 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,20c19,21 A few month ago, someone told us that we can use port D as an ouput. = But, we've just read on the Handy Board FAQ that it was not possible. = So, where is the truth ??? A few month ago, someone told us that we can use port D as an ouput. But, we've just read on the Handy Board FAQ that it was not possible. So, where is the truth ??? 23,24c24,25 We need 8 ouputs (and also 8 inputs) to do our project, any good idea = will be welcome. We need 8 ouputs (and also 8 inputs) to do our project, any good idea will be welcome. 30,31d30
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3657 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 13 Lines: 12 18,21c19,21 We've just read the Web page "Additional Digital Inputs & Outputs for = the Handy or Finger Board" at = http://www.ednet.co.uk/~bill_altaudio/DigitalIO.html#Code but we don't = know how to write in the port D (ie D0..7 ) in order to have more = We've just read the Web page "Additional Digital Inputs & Outputs for the Handy or Finger Board" at http://www.ednet.co.uk/~bill_altaudio/DigitalIO.html#Code but we don't know how to write in the port D (ie D0..7 ) in order to have more 30,32d29
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3666 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 28,31c29 Fran=E7ois François
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3679 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,24c21,25 I saw your robot at the Trinity fire fighting contest last Sunday. It = was neat, and very animate. I was curious to know if you had figured out = why it did what it did during your first run (?). And, what type of = sensor were you using on the rear right of it. This was my first = robotics contest, and it was exciting from start to finish.=20 I saw your robot at the Trinity fire fighting contest last Sunday. It was neat, and very animate. I was curious to know if you had figured out why it did what it did during your first run (?). And, what type of sensor were you using on the rear right of it. This was my first robotics contest, and it was exciting from start to finish.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3682 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 10 Lines: 9 21,22c22 got allways high level (1) during test via "hptest.c". I think i haven=B4= t got allways high level (1) during test via "hptest.c". I think i haven´t 25c25 That=B4s wrong ??? That´s wrong ??? 28,29d27
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3683 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 31c32 Why are=B4nt the clicks linear? Why are´nt the clicks linear? 36,37d36
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3692 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 this case. =20 this case. 25,26c26,27 ericson mar=20 Master of Engineering Candidate=20 ericson mar Master of Engineering Candidate 31,32c32,33 Department of Mechanical Engineering=20 The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art=20 Department of Mechanical Engineering The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art 38c39 >=20 > 40c41 >=20 > 42c43 >=20 > 49,51c50,52 >=20 > Why are=B4nt the clicks linear? >=20 > > Why are´nt the clicks linear? > 53c54 >=20 > 55,58c56,57 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3693 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22,23c23,24 ericson mar=20 Master of Engineering Candidate=20 ericson mar Master of Engineering Candidate 28,29c29,30 Department of Mechanical Engineering=20 The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art=20 Department of Mechanical Engineering The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art 35c36 >=20 > 37c38 >=20 > 39c40 >=20 > 46,48c47,49 >=20 > Why are=B4nt the clicks linear? >=20 > > Why are´nt the clicks linear? > 50c51 >=20 > 52,55c53,54 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3701 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 >=20 > 24c25 >=20 > 26c27 >=20 > 33,35c34,36 >=20 > Why are=B4nt the clicks linear? >=20 > > Why are´nt the clicks linear? > 37c38 >=20 > 46c47 =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09-d -d 52,53d52
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3748 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 10 Lines: 8 20,23c21,22 I am wondering about the Polarity of the Power Jack at the Handyboard and= the=20 charger board. At the HB the Pin in the middle is ground. At the charger = board=20 I am wondering about the Polarity of the Power Jack at the Handyboard and the charger board. At the HB the Pin in the middle is ground. At the charger board 28,30c27 stefan.sch=F6ttler@t-online.de stefan.schöttler@t-online.de
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3760 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 23 Lines: 20 21,24c22,23 i=B4m using a nice drawing programm (TARGET 2001). In germany we can get= a "lite" Version of a big-drawing programm it=B4 easy to use and it works g= reat, i´m using a nice drawing programm (TARGET 2001). In germany we can get a "lite" Version of a big-drawing programm it´ easy to use and it works great, 34,35c33 > Has anyone come across a freeware schematic drawing package for Windows= PC? > Has anyone come across a freeware schematic drawing package for Windows PC? 42,45d39
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3784 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 26 23,24c24 das Rug-Warrior Bord vertreiben (=FCber Joker-Robotics). Ich habe mein HB= in das Rug-Warrior Bord vertreiben (über Joker-Robotics). Ich habe mein HB in 33c33 Kai Gl=E4sner wrote: Kai Gläsner wrote: 46,49d45
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3790 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 46 Lines: 42 27c28 68HC11 compilers.=20 68HC11 compilers. 30c31 Optional Low Dropout voltage regulator ready.=20 Optional Low Dropout voltage regulator ready. 33,36c34,36 board.=20 Smaller overall footprint, 2" x 4", with the attached communications boar= d. Same professional board quality as before.=20 board. Smaller overall footprint, 2" x 4", with the attached communications board. Same professional board quality as before. 41,47c41,46 eproms or slower eeproms.=20 Compact size 2=94 X 2.85=94 (main CPU board) Interactive C compatible LCD interface.=20 Network capable Serial Peripheral Interface (SPI).=20 No expensive hardware programmer needed, programs can be downloaded using= a standard serial port.=20 eproms or slower eeproms. Compact size 2” X 2.85” (main CPU board) Interactive C compatible LCD interface. Network capable Serial Peripheral Interface (SPI). No expensive hardware programmer needed, programs can be downloaded using a standard serial port. 52,55c51,52 Since the announcement of our newest embedded processor board, Finger Boa= rd II, we have one fully assembled original Finger Board in stock. Instead o= f Since the announcement of our newest embedded processor board, Finger Board II, we have one fully assembled original Finger Board in stock. Instead of 57c54 winner will receive the Finger Board.=20 winner will receive the Finger Board. 65d61
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3798 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 59 Lines: 47 21,23c22,23 so wie es sich lie=DFt, kannst Du besser deutsch wie ich englisch. Vielleicht sollten wir eine Deutsche HB-User Ecke einrichten :-) :-) - Ma= l sehen so wie es sich ließt, kannst Du besser deutsch wie ich englisch. Vielleicht sollten wir eine Deutsche HB-User Ecke einrichten :-) :-) - Mal sehen 26,29c26,27 Da mein englisch nicht das beste ist, habe ich so manches mal Probleme, m= eine Fragen zu =FCbersetzten, so da=DF ihr "Englisch-sprechenden" das auch ver= steht. Da mein englisch nicht das beste ist, habe ich so manches mal Probleme, meine Fragen zu übersetzten, so daß ihr "Englisch-sprechenden" das auch versteht. 33,34c31 I hope you can read my english text, as good as my german text. Do you ha= ve I hope you can read my english text, as good as my german text. Do you have 37,41c34,36 I can=B4t download the new routines into my hb. I got every time the same error-message. (Bad EOF after round about 1515 Bytes). I had several time= s download the new-routines from the HB-Homepage. I think i have no filegar= bage. I can´t download the new routines into my hb. I got every time the same error-message. (Bad EOF after round about 1515 Bytes). I had several times download the new-routines from the HB-Homepage. I think i have no filegarbage. 55,58c50,51 > > gleiche Problem gehabt. In Deutschland wird nach meinem Wissen ledigl= ich > > das Rug-Warrior Bord vertreiben (=FCber Joker-Robotics). Ich habe mei= n HB in > > gleiche Problem gehabt. In Deutschland wird nach meinem Wissen lediglich > > das Rug-Warrior Bord vertreiben (über Joker-Robotics). Ich habe mein HB in 63,64c56 > Hallo Bernd, es freut mich sehr, dass ich genug deutsch erinner= n > Hallo Bernd, es freut mich sehr, dass ich genug deutsch erinnern 71,74c63,64 > Richard F. Drushel, Ph.D. | "Aplysia californica" is your ta= xonomic > Department of Biology, Slug Division | nomenclature. / A slug, by any= other > Richard F. Drushel, Ph.D. | "Aplysia californica" is your taxonomic > Department of Biology, Slug Division | nomenclature. / A slug, by any other 76,81c66 > Cleveland, Ohio 44106-7080 U.S.A. | -- apologies to Data, "Ode t= o Spot" > Cleveland, Ohio 44106-7080 U.S.A. | -- apologies to Data, "Ode to Spot"
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3799 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 47 Lines: 43 21,22c22,23 es werden immer mehr Deutsche oder zumindest deutsch sprechende Mitgliede= r in der es werden immer mehr Deutsche oder zumindest deutsch sprechende Mitglieder in der 25,26c26,27 Wir sollten tats=E4chlich =FCberlegen, wie wir eine solche "Ecke" einrich= ten k=F6nnten. Wir sollten tatsächlich überlegen, wie wir eine solche "Ecke" einrichten könnten. 28c29 Ein Bezugsquellennachweis w=E4re sicherlich eine gute Sache. Ein Bezugsquellennachweis wäre sicherlich eine gute Sache. 38,40c39,41 > > so wie es sich lie=DFt, kannst Du besser deutsch wie ich englisch.. > > Vielleicht sollten wir eine Deutsche HB-User Ecke einrichten :-) :-) = - Mal sehen > > so wie es sich ließt, kannst Du besser deutsch wie ich englisch.. > > Vielleicht sollten wir eine Deutsche HB-User Ecke einrichten :-) :-) - Mal > > sehen 44,47c45,46 > ich habe mir vor ca. 1 Jahr drei Boards mitbringen lassen (eins habe ic= h > verkauft), die leider noch nicht fertig sind, da mir u.a. noch ein, zwe= i > ich habe mir vor ca. 1 Jahr drei Boards mitbringen lassen (eins habe ich > verkauft), die leider noch nicht fertig sind, da mir u.a. noch ein, zwei 58,59c57 > ***********************************************************************= ********* > ******************************************************************************** 64,69c62 > ***********************************************************************= ********* > ********************************************************************************
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3825 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 as a set of HB and IF/Charger board for =A319-50 sterling as a set of HB and IF/Charger board for £19-50 sterling 34,37d34
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3831 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,23c21,24 I built a small circular robot base with differential steering using 3" = diameter rubber wheels and optical encoders on both wheels. The motors powering the robot are high efficiency German built gear = motors using 300 mA when stalled, and rotating @ 60 RPM unloaded. I built a small circular robot base with differential steering using 3" diameter rubber wheels and optical encoders on both wheels. The motors powering the robot are high efficiency German built gear motors using 300 mA when stalled, and rotating @ 60 RPM unloaded. 25,26c26,27 The robot is controlled by the Handy board using the smooth PWM Pcode. = The motors are powered by a 12V 3 Ah gel cell battery. The robot is controlled by the Handy board using the smooth PWM Pcode. The motors are powered by a 12V 3 Ah gel cell battery. 28,33c29,34 The problem is that one of the motors is 2 RPM slower than the other = therefore the robot tends to drift toward the side of the slower motor. I have a few ideas on how to accomplish this, but two heads are better = than one, so I'm looking for some input to help me write an efficient = program to keep the robot moving straight. =20 The problem is that one of the motors is 2 RPM slower than the other therefore the robot tends to drift toward the side of the slower motor. I have a few ideas on how to accomplish this, but two heads are better than one, so I'm looking for some input to help me write an efficient program to keep the robot moving straight. 36c37 Thanks=20 Thanks
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3835 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 20 Lines: 17 17,23c18,23 I am planning on using stepper motors with a handy board, which hopefully= I will have in a week :) The specs on the HB say it uses 9.6 volts. Is this a required voltage? or= can it be another rating as long as it is within the regulators limits. = Basically I want to use 12 volt motors, but not at 9.6 volts. I am assumi= ng if I use 12 volts the regulator will still supply 5 volts to the circu= it, correct? I am planning on using stepper motors with a handy board, which hopefully I will have in a week :) The specs on the HB say it uses 9.6 volts. Is this a required voltage? or can it be another rating as long as it is within the regulators limits. Basically I want to use 12 volt motors, but not at 9.6 volts. I am assuming if I use 12 volts the regulator will still supply 5 volts to the circuit, correct? 29,30c29 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 35,37c34 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3844 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 13 Lines: 12 21,22c22 mailings. I the past i had contact with view german people but i haven=B4= t mailings. I the past i had contact with view german people but i haven´t 31,32d30
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3850 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 27c28 I=B4m using a macintosh (PPC 4400) and use the 6811 download utility. Is I´m using a macintosh (PPC 4400) and use the 6811 download utility. Is 30c31 Thank=B4s for help Thank´s for help 33,34d33
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3869 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 20,21c21 How is it possible to interface one or more SHARP GP2D02 to the = HANDYBOARD ?? How is it possible to interface one or more SHARP GP2D02 to the HANDYBOARD ??
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3881 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 17 Lines: 15 17,19c18,20 ...was just wondering if the Handy-Board can run on other types of batter= ies besides Ni-Cds, such as: NiMH batteries which have higher mAh ratings= vs. a Ni-Cd equivalent. Also, will Lithium batteries work with the HB? ...was just wondering if the Handy-Board can run on other types of batteries besides Ni-Cds, such as: NiMH batteries which have higher mAh ratings vs. a Ni-Cd equivalent. Also, will Lithium batteries work with the HB? 21,24c22,25 Are there any performance differences to the HB if you run it on 7.2 volt= s instead of 9.6 volts? From what I've heard the voltage regulator (7805)= regulates anything from 6-18 volts down to the 5 volts for the circuit. = If this is so, why was 9.6V decided on? Are there any performance differences to the HB if you run it on 7.2 volts instead of 9.6 volts? From what I've heard the voltage regulator (7805) regulates anything from 6-18 volts down to the 5 volts for the circuit. If this is so, why was 9.6V decided on? 26,27c27 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 32,34c32 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3882 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 32 Lines: 27 30,31c31 ratings vs. a Ni-Cd equivalent. Also, will Lithium batteries work with th= e ratings vs. a Ni-Cd equivalent. Also, will Lithium batteries work with the 34,35c34 >Are there any performance differences to the HB if you run it on 7.2 vol= ts >Are there any performance differences to the HB if you run it on 7.2 volts 37,38c36 regulates anything from 6-18 volts down to the 5 volts for the circuit. I= f regulates anything from 6-18 volts down to the 5 volts for the circuit. If 41,42c39 >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF >¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 47,48c44 >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF >¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 50,51d45
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3888 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 Function star_press undefind.=20 Error in hbtest.c around line 51:=20 Function knob undefind. =20 Function star_press undefind. Error in hbtest.c around line 51: Function knob undefind. 26c27 Error in hbtest.c around line 60:=20 Error in hbtest.c around line 60: 38c39 not get any hits.=20 not get any hits.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3892 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 34 Lines: 32 17,20c18,21 The reason the board is not responding seems to be because the downloader= is sending data to the wrong COM port. Find out whether you are using CO= M1 or COM2 and then check your downloader and IC as well to confirm you a= re on the right port. The reason the board is not responding seems to be because the downloader is sending data to the wrong COM port. Find out whether you are using COM1 or COM2 and then check your downloader and IC as well to confirm you are on the right port. 26,27c27,28 ~then hit {enter} until the port selection comes up. (you can type either= com1 or com2, type the correct one. ~then hit {enter} until the port selection comes up. (you can type either com1 or com2, type the correct one. 35,36c36,37 your downloader should now send to the correct port. IC should also recog= nize the board now too. your downloader should now send to the correct port. IC should also recognize the board now too. 43,44c44 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 49,51c49 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3893 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3896 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 36 Lines: 29 20,21c21 A/D inproved by about 50 HZ, by getting rid of = A/D inproved by about 50 HZ, by getting rid of 25,26c25 the E clock is 2 MHZ, so the sampling should be = the E clock is 2 MHZ, so the sampling should be 32,34c31,32 int volt_out=3D128; /*motor output of "0" */ int v_opt,disp; = int volt_out=128; /*motor output of "0" */ int v_opt,disp; 36,37c34 { = { 39,48c36,42 { = v_opt =3D atodconv(0); /*start a2d subroutine;*/ v_opt =3D (v_opt <<8); /* shift to get rid of one accumulator*= / v_opt =3D (v_opt >>8); /* shift right to read byte */ v_opt =3D (128 - v_opt); volt_out =3D (v_opt + 128); /*scale volts to digital units.*/ poke(0x6fff,volt_out); /* A/D correction to drive motor*/ = { v_opt = atodconv(0); /*start a2d subroutine;*/ v_opt = (v_opt <<8); /* shift to get rid of one accumulator*/ v_opt = (v_opt >>8); /* shift right to read byte */ v_opt = (128 - v_opt); volt_out = (v_opt + 128); /*scale volts to digital units.*/ poke(0x6fff,volt_out); /* A/D correction to drive motor*/ 54,55d47
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3900 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 29 Lines: 27 17,25c18,26 I interfaced 3 infrared optosensors to the digital inputs on the handyboa= rd. I'm a little dissapointed in their performance however. The only time= they give a reading of "true" is if they are about a half an inch or clo= ser from the target. Any further away than half an inch results in a "fal= se" reading because the sensors are out of range. Is there any way at all to have a bigger range. I want to have the sensor= s 2 inches away from what they are to detect. If anyone has been using th= e optosensors I'd like a little input. I interfaced 3 infrared optosensors to the digital inputs on the handyboard. I'm a little dissapointed in their performance however. The only time they give a reading of "true" is if they are about a half an inch or closer from the target. Any further away than half an inch results in a "false" reading because the sensors are out of range. Is there any way at all to have a bigger range. I want to have the sensors 2 inches away from what they are to detect. If anyone has been using the optosensors I'd like a little input. 29,31c30,32 -Is the range short because of how fast the digital(); function checks th= e sensor? If it took longer to check would it then give the sensor more t= ime to let the infrared beam to reflect back? -Is the range short because of how fast the digital(); function checks the sensor? If it took longer to check would it then give the sensor more time to let the infrared beam to reflect back? 38,39c39 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 44,46c44 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3901 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 I=B4m using a macintosh (PPC 4400) and use the 6811 download utility. Is I´m using a macintosh (PPC 4400) and use the 6811 download utility. Is 27c28 Thank=B4s for help Thank´s for help 30,36d30
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3905 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 75 Lines: 69 26,28c27,29 led_on(); refl +=3D analog(1); led_off(); refl -=3D analog(1); led_on(); refl +=3D analog(1); led_off(); refl -=3D analog(1); led_on(); refl +=3D analog(1); led_off(); refl -=3D analog(1); led_on(); refl += analog(1); led_off(); refl -= analog(1); led_on(); refl += analog(1); led_off(); refl -= analog(1); led_on(); refl += analog(1); led_off(); refl -= analog(1); 37c38 >=20 > 41c42 >=20 > 44c45 >=20 > 46c47 >=20 > 48,55c49,55 > > I interfaced 3 infrared optosensors to the digital inputs on the hand= yboard. > I'm a little dissapointed in their performance however. The only time t= hey give > a reading of "true" is if they are about a half an inch or closer from= the tar > get. Any further away than half an inch results in a "false" reading be= cause th > > I interfaced 3 infrared optosensors to the digital inputs on the handyboard. > I'm a little dissapointed in their performance however. The only time they > give > a reading of "true" is if they are about a half an inch or closer from the > tar > get. Any further away than half an inch results in a "false" reading because > th 58,61c58,60 > > Is there any way at all to have a bigger range. I want to have the se= nsors 2 > inches away from what they are to detect. If anyone has been using the = optosens > > Is there any way at all to have a bigger range. I want to have the sensors 2 > inches away from what they are to detect. If anyone has been using the > optosens 66,69c65,68 > > -Is the range short because of how fast the digital(); function check= s the se > nsor? If it took longer to check would it then give the sensor more tim= e to let > > -Is the range short because of how fast the digital(); function checks the > > se > nsor? If it took longer to check would it then give the sensor more time to > let 77,79c76 > > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF > > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 84,86c81 > > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF > > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 89c84 --=20 -- 94d88
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3910 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 18 Lines: 15 17,20c18,21 I was just wondering if there's any way to disable and remove the LCD scr= een and still have the HB work. My design does not require the LCD, so if= i could remove it my robot would then be a little more balanced. Every t= ime I remove the LCD my programs wont run.=20 I was just wondering if there's any way to disable and remove the LCD screen and still have the HB work. My design does not require the LCD, so if i could remove it my robot would then be a little more balanced. Every time I remove the LCD my programs wont run. 22,23c23 *maybe this question should be directly aimed at a response from Randy & = Fred. *maybe this question should be directly aimed at a response from Randy & Fred. 27,28c27 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 33,35c32 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3915 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 45 Lines: 37 20,25c21,24 Does anyone know if the Rug Warior Pcode run without the LCD? (Pcoderwl.S= 19) If not : 1 is there another RW pcode that will run without the LCD? I usi= ng the RW pcode on my Fingerboard II with out the LCD and I think this may be an is= sue. Does anyone know if the Rug Warior Pcode run without the LCD? (Pcoderwl.S19) If not : 1 is there another RW pcode that will run without the LCD? I using the RW pcode on my Fingerboard II with out the LCD and I think this may be an issue. 33,34c32 > http://el.www.media.mit.edu/projects/handy-board/software/contrib/kent/= no_lcd/ > http://el.www.media.mit.edu/projects/handy-board/software/contrib/kent/no_lcd/ 39,44c37,41 > > I was just wondering if there's any way to disable and remove the LCD= screen > and still have the HB work. My design does not require the LCD, so if i= could r > emove it my robot would then be a little more balanced. Every time I re= move the > > I was just wondering if there's any way to disable and remove the LCD screen > and still have the HB work. My design does not require the LCD, so if i could > r > emove it my robot would then be a little more balanced. Every time I remove > the 47,48c44,45 > > *maybe this question should be directly aimed at a response from Rand= y & Fred > > *maybe this question should be directly aimed at a response from Randy & > > Fred 53,55c50 > > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF > > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 60,62c55 > > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF > > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 64,67d56
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3920 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 33 Lines: 32 18c19 Could someone please help me get my handyboard to communicate with the = Could someone please help me get my handyboard to communicate with the 20,28c21,28 First, my computer crashed, the hard disk had to be formatted,windows 95 = reinstalled, ic3.2 reinstalled. I was communicating with the handyboard = thru com 4. When I plug the handyboard to what was formerly com 4 the green light is = lit like everything is ok but when I try to download to the board I get = the message that the com port is not avalable or may be in use by = another program. I had the com port installed by a computer store probably a year ago and = don't remember having any disk to go along with it. First, my computer crashed, the hard disk had to be formatted,windows 95 reinstalled, ic3.2 reinstalled. I was communicating with the handyboard thru com 4. When I plug the handyboard to what was formerly com 4 the green light is lit like everything is ok but when I try to download to the board I get the message that the com port is not avalable or may be in use by another program. I had the com port installed by a computer store probably a year ago and don't remember having any disk to go along with it. 30,31c30,31 I went to the <control panel> <install new hardware > the search turned = up no new hardware . I went to the <control panel> <install new hardware > the search turned up no new hardware . 36,40c36,40 = Thanks in advance = Terry Gathright = Thanks in advance Terry Gathright
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3924 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 56 Lines: 54 33c34 programmed in assembly language. =20 programmed in assembly language. 56c57 Penn State Abington=20 Penn State Abington 65,66c66 >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF >¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 71,72c71 >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF >¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 75,76d73
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3926 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 60 Lines: 53 27c28 >=20 > 29,34c30,33 > Does anyone know if the Rug Warior Pcode run without the LCD? (Pcoderwl= .S19) > If not : 1 is there another RW pcode that will run without the LCD? I u= sing the RW > pcode on my Fingerboard II with out the LCD and I think this may be an = issue. > Does anyone know if the Rug Warior Pcode run without the LCD? (Pcoderwl.S19) > If not : 1 is there another RW pcode that will run without the LCD? I using > the RW > pcode on my Fingerboard II with out the LCD and I think this may be an issue. 36c35 >=20 > 38c37 >=20 > 42,43c41 > > http://el.www.media.mit.edu/projects/handy-board/software/contrib/ken= t/no_lcd/ > > http://el.www.media.mit.edu/projects/handy-board/software/contrib/kent/no_lcd/ 48,53c46,51 > > > I was just wondering if there's any way to disable and remove the L= CD screen > > and still have the HB work. My design does not require the LCD, so if= i could r > > emove it my robot would then be a little more balanced. Every time I = remove the > > > I was just wondering if there's any way to disable and remove the LCD > > > screen > > and still have the HB work. My design does not require the LCD, so if i > > could r > > emove it my robot would then be a little more balanced. Every time I remove > > the 56,57c54,55 > > > *maybe this question should be directly aimed at a response from Ra= ndy & Fred > > > *maybe this question should be directly aimed at a response from Randy & > > > Fred 62,64c60 > > > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF > > > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 69,71c65 > > > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF > > > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 74c68 --=20 -- 79d72
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3934 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,18c18,19 Does anyone know the impedance onto the sensor inputs on the HB and/or = any suggestions for setting them to receive signals sent at 220K Ohm. Does anyone know the impedance onto the sensor inputs on the HB and/or any suggestions for setting them to receive signals sent at 220K Ohm. 21d21
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3939 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 46 Lines: 44 47,48c48 >only get a signal when we first turned on the 40 kHz transmitter. If = the >only get a signal when we first turned on the 40 kHz transmitter. If the 55,56c55 >It does not seem to respond to continuous transmission. Has anybody = else >It does not seem to respond to continuous transmission. Has anybody else 65d63
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3941 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 58 Lines: 49 18,19c19 "Hi", from Hector Noriega, I am trying to send a data byte from port C o= ut "Hi", from Hector Noriega, I am trying to send a data byte from port C out 22,25c22,23 assembly code but I can = not enable the address decoder using port B for the msb and port C for th= e assembly code but I can not enable the address decoder using port B for the msb and port C for the 32,33c30 * the main purpose is to characterize how fast can a byte output = * the main purpose is to characterize how fast can a byte output 38,39c35 * Using IC the command to accomplish the same thing is = * Using IC the command to accomplish the same thing is 50,53c46,47 SEI ; turn off system interrupts so th= at LDAA #$FF ; = SEI ; turn off system interrupts so that LDAA #$FF ; 57c51 LDAB #128 ; data =3D 0 for bypolar Digital to Analog LDAB #128 ; data = 0 for bypolar Digital to Analog 65,66c59 int v_opt; = int v_opt; 70,72c63,64 { = v_opt =3D od2a(0); { v_opt = od2a(0); 75,77c67 =
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3942 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,18c18,19 Never mind, I have managed to solve the problem by cutting the trace = between the 47k pull-up resistor and the sensor input. Never mind, I have managed to solve the problem by cutting the trace between the 47k pull-up resistor and the sensor input. 26,27c27,28 Does anyone know the impedance onto the sensor inputs on the HB and/or = any suggestions for setting them to receive signals sent at 220K Ohm. Does anyone know the impedance onto the sensor inputs on the HB and/or any suggestions for setting them to receive signals sent at 220K Ohm. 30d30
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3953 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 27 Lines: 23 17,18c18,19 When pcode is downloaded to the Handy Board, how much memory space does i= t take up? When pcode is downloaded to the Handy Board, how much memory space does it take up? 20,21c21,22 I am a little concerned about having enough memory space for my programs.= As I see it now, I think I may max out the 32KB.=20 I am a little concerned about having enough memory space for my programs. As I see it now, I think I may max out the 32KB. 23,25c24,26 Does anyone have tips on how to concerve space. The only thing I can thin= k of is to edit out some functions from lib_hb.c that I am not using, and= also not loading the r22 IR files which I'm not using either. Does anyone have tips on how to concerve space. The only thing I can think of is to edit out some functions from lib_hb.c that I am not using, and also not loading the r22 IR files which I'm not using either. 27,29c28,29 (I think someone posted once about a similar problem and said that some s= pace concerving was solved after using the commericial version of IC, how= so?) (I think someone posted once about a similar problem and said that some space concerving was solved after using the commericial version of IC, how so?) 31,32c31 Is it possible to expand the memory, or is 32 KB the most I can work with= ? Is it possible to expand the memory, or is 32 KB the most I can work with? 36,37c35 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 42,44c40 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3977 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 30 Lines: 27 19,20c20,21 I sent this message out a few days ago and havent heard from anyone. Can = someone help me out? I sent this message out a few days ago and havent heard from anyone. Can someone help me out? 23,24c24,25 When pcode is downloaded to the Handy Board, how much memory space does i= t take up? When pcode is downloaded to the Handy Board, how much memory space does it take up? 26,27c27,28 I am a little concerned about having enough memory space for my programs.= As I see it now, I think I may max out the 32KB.=20 I am a little concerned about having enough memory space for my programs. As I see it now, I think I may max out the 32KB. 29,35c30,35 Does anyone have tips on how to concerve space. The only thing I can thin= k of is to edit out some functions from lib_hb.c that I am not using, and= also not loading the r22 IR files which I'm not using either. (I think someone posted once about a similar problem and said that some s= pace concerving was solved after using the commericial version of IC, how= so?) Does anyone have tips on how to concerve space. The only thing I can think of is to edit out some functions from lib_hb.c that I am not using, and also not loading the r22 IR files which I'm not using either. (I think someone posted once about a similar problem and said that some space concerving was solved after using the commericial version of IC, how so?) 39,40c39 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 45,47c44 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:3981 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 21 Lines: 19 23,24c24 { = { 26,27c26 { = { 29c28 v_opt =3D analog(0); /*measure optical sensor */ v_opt = analog(0); /*measure optical sensor */ 39d37
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4036 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 23 Lines: 21 17,19c18,20 A while back a few people pointed me to an text about using stepper motor= s with the handy board.=20 http://www.cctc.demon.co.uk/stepper.htm=20 A while back a few people pointed me to an text about using stepper motors with the handy board. http://www.cctc.demon.co.uk/stepper.htm 21,26c22,27 To the people who have told me about this, or have used this method to co= ntrol steppers: please tell me how well you have gotten your motors worki= ng. I have tried the sample code and my motors are a little sketchy. When= they first power up, they jerk left or right a little, causing my robot = to align incorrectly. Also on the turns they sometimes jerk a little caus= ing my turns to be thrown off. To the people who have told me about this, or have used this method to control steppers: please tell me how well you have gotten your motors working. I have tried the sample code and my motors are a little sketchy. When they first power up, they jerk left or right a little, causing my robot to align incorrectly. Also on the turns they sometimes jerk a little causing my turns to be thrown off. 28c29 ...all stepper people *HELP ME* !=20 ...all stepper people *HELP ME* ! 32,33c33 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 38,40c38 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4043 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 43 Lines: 36 19,24c20,22 I use the handyboard in the same way, and i need to say you, if you use d= os can get more avaibility for the serial port, what under a seudo multitask= ing enviroment like windows 95. Otherwise, i use windows 95 because i need th= e I use the handyboard in the same way, and i need to say you, if you use dos can get more avaibility for the serial port, what under a seudo multitasking enviroment like windows 95. Otherwise, i use windows 95 because i need the 27,30c25,26 If you want better response , also can changes the crystal in the handybo= ard for other fecuency (i don't remember if 7.xxxx or 9.xxxxx, ask Fred) and = get If you want better response , also can changes the crystal in the handyboard for other fecuency (i don't remember if 7.xxxx or 9.xxxxx, ask Fred) and get 34,36c30,32 Germ=E1n Gentile Genesys - Ingenier=EDa en Sistemas Sarmiento 4442 3=BA 17. 1197. Germán Gentile Genesys - Ingeniería en Sistemas Sarmiento 4442 3º 17. 1197. 48,51c44,45 > I am trying to transfer large amount of data to a computer from the Han= dy > Board as it collects that data from the sensors connected to it. I have= a > I am trying to transfer large amount of data to a computer from the Handy > Board as it collects that data from the sensors connected to it. I have a 62,63d55
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4054 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 48 Lines: 45 17,23c18,24 A few weeks back I was a little dissapointed in the performance of the QT= refective optosensors which come with the Handy Board because when using= them on the digital inputs, their range was only 1/4 to 1/2 inch or less. Some people told me to use the Radio Shack type Infrared modules. This wa= s something I really frowned upon because I needed 5 sets of sensors, so = this would add up to alot of space. A few weeks back I was a little dissapointed in the performance of the QT refective optosensors which come with the Handy Board because when using them on the digital inputs, their range was only 1/4 to 1/2 inch or less. Some people told me to use the Radio Shack type Infrared modules. This was something I really frowned upon because I needed 5 sets of sensors, so this would add up to alot of space. 25,26c26,27 If anyone is interested in using sensors on the digital inputs here's a w= ay to get a range of 3 to 3 1/2 inches, as opposed to 1/4 inch. If anyone is interested in using sensors on the digital inputs here's a way to get a range of 3 to 3 1/2 inches, as opposed to 1/4 inch. 30,31c31 I constructed my own sensor/emitter pairs from the following two Digikey = parts: I constructed my own sensor/emitter pairs from the following two Digikey parts: 36,45c36,45 The transistor is a 3 legged version so I removed the Base leg. Although = if you keep it on, you can attach a potentiometer to it and vary the sens= itivity of the sensor. (something I havent played with yet) *also please note the emitter and collector legs are swapped, the emitter= is the leg with the tab on the outside of the can. The wiring is straight forward. I used the same approach shown in the Han= dy Board manual. The emitter was grounded, collector was wired to the sig= nal input, and the LED was limited with a 330 ohm resistor. The transistor is a 3 legged version so I removed the Base leg. Although if you keep it on, you can attach a potentiometer to it and vary the sensitivity of the sensor. (something I havent played with yet) *also please note the emitter and collector legs are swapped, the emitter is the leg with the tab on the outside of the can. The wiring is straight forward. I used the same approach shown in the Handy Board manual. The emitter was grounded, collector was wired to the signal input, and the LED was limited with a 330 ohm resistor. 49,50c49,50 Anything within 3 to 3 1/2 inches gives a true result (0), everything els= e give a false (1). The numbers are swapped but it works. :) Anything within 3 to 3 1/2 inches gives a true result (0), everything else give a false (1). The numbers are swapped but it works. :) 57,58c57 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 63,65c62 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4055 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 34 Lines: 28 21,22c22 yesterday i had the same problem with my notebook (W95). I can=B4t downlo= ad to my yesterday i had the same problem with my notebook (W95). I can´t download to my 24,25c24 With the "MSD.EXE" Programm i found out, i haven=B4t any COM-Ports (?????= ). I must With the "MSD.EXE" Programm i found out, i haven´t any COM-Ports (?????). I must 35,42c34,37 > Tried to download the pcode_h.s19 using both the windows downloader and= the > dosload 'dl.exe' windows one works OK, the dos one works OK but in full= dos > mode without the windows. When i reset the board by switching of/on not= hing > happens, and the display just lights barely the top row of the lcd with= full > Tried to download the pcode_h.s19 using both the windows downloader and the > dosload 'dl.exe' windows one works OK, the dos one works OK but in full dos > mode without the windows. When i reset the board by switching of/on nothing > happens, and the display just lights barely the top row of the lcd with full 53,56d47
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4057 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 28c29 Nedre M=F8llenberggt 9 Nedre Møllenberggt 9 33,35d33
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4072 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 84 Lines: 79 18,19c19 If they replace the controller on their board with a chip that is rated a= t If they replace the controller on their board with a chip that is rated at 29c29 >=20 > 31c31 >=20 > 36c36 >=20 > 42c42 >=20 > 44c44 >=20 > 49c49 >=20 > 52c52 >=20 > 54c54 >=20 > 56,59c56,59 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > > 61c61 >=20 > 83,85c83 > > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF > > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 90,94c88,90 > > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF >=20 >=20 > > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ > >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4095 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 64 Lines: 63 30c31 669@worldnet.att.net =20 669@worldnet.att.net 36,37c37 int num_sensors =3D6 /* put the number of analog sensor inputs you = want*/ int num_sensors =6 /* put the number of analog sensor inputs you want*/ 51c51 counter =3D 0; counter = 0; 57c57 sensors[counter] =3D analog(counter); sensors[counter] = analog(counter);
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4101 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Sorry, but I have not been getting sny HB messages for a week, and I = wanted to see if it was a problem at the HB end or mines. Thanks! Sorry, but I have not been getting sny HB messages for a week, and I wanted to see if it was a problem at the HB end or mines. Thanks!
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4110 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 47 Lines: 45 23c24 The motors you are using are the bipolar type. There=20 The motors you are using are the bipolar type. There 27c28 that unipolar motors have additional wires which are=20 that unipolar motors have additional wires which are 32c33 probably a lot to handle. I recommend trying the=20 probably a lot to handle. I recommend trying the 38c39 I modified the step(); function to produce a gradual=20 I modified the step(); function to produce a gradual 40c41 the specified steps are almost complete.=20 the specified steps are almost complete. 47,48c48 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 53,54c53 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4124 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 44 Lines: 45 31c32,33 of the cylinder. The 2 outside wires are joined one terminal of a variable resister of the cylinder. The 2 outside wires are joined one terminal of a variable resister 45c47 >=09I've been searching, without much luck for a single axis inclinometer with > I've been searching, without much luck for a single axis inclinometer with 51c53 >=09Aaron > Aaron
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4135 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 54c55 I hope that=B4s all, good luck for programming your 68HC11 I hope that´s all, good luck for programming your 68HC11
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4144 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 i=B4m looking for germany-sumo-robotic fans and builders. Is there any i´m looking for germany-sumo-robotic fans and builders. Is there any 31,32d31
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4164 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Hello! =20 Hello! 21,23c22,24 I'm into rocketry and thought about putting it in my rocket = that I'm building. I was wondering: Will it work while flying in the air = with the increaced G-force and high speeds? I'm into rocketry and thought about putting it in my rocket that I'm building. I was wondering: Will it work while flying in the air with the increaced G-force and high speeds?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4188 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,24c19,25 I assume the Handy Board (HB) can be used with Fischertechnik products = and parts. Is this correct? =20 I just ran across Fischertechnik and was wondering if you all have any = comments (preferably based on experience) about how this line of = products compares with Lego, and their respective use with the HB. =20 I assume the Handy Board (HB) can be used with Fischertechnik products and parts. Is this correct? I just ran across Fischertechnik and was wondering if you all have any comments (preferably based on experience) about how this line of products compares with Lego, and their respective use with the HB. 26c27 =20
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4215 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 12 Lines: 11 17,24c18,24 I figured out all of my problems were caused by using an ac-dc adaptor with= the wrong voltage. What is the correct output voltage for the adaptor tha= t should be used with the handyboard? Also, I cannot find L1, the iron core= inductor. I ordered my handyboard kit from the Hong Kong robot store and i= nstead of the reddish iron core conductor i have an extra thing that had th= e shape of a resistor and has a<x-color><param>red=3D25088;green=3D54784;bl= ue=3D44032</param> teal </x-color>background and for stripes, silver gold b= lack and brown. is this L1? I figured out all of my problems were caused by using an ac-dc adaptor with the wrong voltage. What is the correct output voltage for the adaptor that should be used with the handyboard? Also, I cannot find L1, the iron core inductor. I ordered my handyboard kit from the Hong Kong robot store and instead of the reddish iron core conductor i have an extra thing that had the shape of a resistor and has a<x-color><param>red=25088;green=54784;blue=44032</param> teal </x-color>background and for stripes, silver gold black and brown. is this L1? 29,32d28
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4234 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 65 Lines: 54 18c19 Hello All,=20 Hello All, 21,22c22 bikes that our local high school is using in solar bike races in Topeka a= nd bikes that our local high school is using in solar bike races in Topeka and 24c24 be interested in the results. =20 be interested in the results. 28,31c28,29 supplemental to the rider supplied power. The races are 100 km. The ide= a is to make the best use of what power you have to help the rider. The HB= s supplemental to the rider supplied power. The races are 100 km. The idea is to make the best use of what power you have to help the rider. The HBs 33,34c31 settings. The HBs were also able to directly control the solid state mot= or settings. The HBs were also able to directly control the solid state motor 36,37c33 voltage, current, accumulated amp-hours, speed, and control settings. Al= l voltage, current, accumulated amp-hours, speed, and control settings. All 42c38 In the SunRaye in Topeka ;=20 In the SunRaye in Topeka ; 45,46c41,42 Our Boys team took a second place in the =93A=94 category under 18 group. The girls team took a first place in the =93A=94 category under 18 group. Our Boys team took a second place in the “A” category under 18 group. The girls team took a first place in the “A” category under 18 group. 49c45 http://www.ogata.or.jp/english/wsr/98wsbr/98wsbr.htm=20 http://www.ogata.or.jp/english/wsr/98wsbr/98wsbr.htm 51,52c47 The boys team took first place in the =93A=94 category overall (that incl= uded The boys team took first place in the “A” category overall (that included 54,55c49,50 The girls team took a second place in the =93A=94 category under 18 group. Both teams took first place in the spring portion of the race. That=92s The girls team took a second place in the “A” category under 18 group. Both teams took first place in the spring portion of the race. That’s 59,60c54 little hard to see but the HBs are hanging from a set of Aero Bars locate= d little hard to see but the HBs are hanging from a set of Aero Bars located 64,65c58 requests about the details. That is coming (I hope). I=92m trying to ge= t requests about the details. That is coming (I hope). I’m trying to get 68c61 and..=20 and.. 73,77c66,68 accurately control the power consumption is a valuable tool. (Plus I=92v= e got more bragging rights than most on this project since my son was one o= f the boy=92s team riders) accurately control the power consumption is a valuable tool. (Plus I’ve got more bragging rights than most on this project since my son was one of the boy’s team riders) 79,80c70 Special thanks to Fred for the design and the advice he was able to give = us Special thanks to Fred for the design and the advice he was able to give us 82,86c72 thing to Japan don=92t forget to factor in the 100V AC they have) thing to Japan don’t forget to factor in the 100V AC they have)
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4319 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 27,30c28 Fran=E7ois François
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4328 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 15 Lines: 12 17,22c18,21 =0AHi to all, I would like to know if somebody knows where can I found = the address of an electronic distributor that sell individual 'infrared detector' I= S1U60 from SHARP, I was looking in many electronic sites and the minimun is 5= 0 pcs. I Hi to all, I would like to know if somebody knows where can I found the address of an electronic distributor that sell individual 'infrared detector' IS1U60 from SHARP, I was looking in many electronic sites and the minimun is 50 pcs. I 24,25c23 Or... could somebody to sell me 2 pcs.? I pay the mail and all around = it. Or... could somebody to sell me 2 pcs.? I pay the mail and all around it. 31,32c29 GPL Guadalajara, Jal. Mexico.= GPL Guadalajara, Jal. Mexico.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4329 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 14 Lines: 11 17,23c18,22 =0A Hi to all, I would like to know if somebody knows where can I found the= address of an electronic distributor that sell individual 'infrared detector' I= S1U60 from SHARP, I was looking in many electronic sites and the minimun is 5= 0 pcs. I Hi to all, I would like to know if somebody knows where can I found the address of an electronic distributor that sell individual 'infrared detector' IS1U60 from SHARP, I was looking in many electronic sites and the minimun is 50 pcs. I 25,26c24 Or... could somebody to sell me 2 pcs.? I pay the mail and all around = it. Or... could somebody to sell me 2 pcs.? I pay the mail and all around it. 30,31c28 Victor G. Ruiz Aranda ruizvic@mx1.ibm.com= Victor G. Ruiz Aranda ruizvic@mx1.ibm.com
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4333 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 57 Lines: 44 17c18,19 =0AHi Rick; Hi Rick; 37,38c39 > Hi to all, I would like to know if somebody knows where can I found t= he > Hi to all, I would like to know if somebody knows where can I found the 40,43c41,42 > of an electronic distributor that sell individual 'infrared detector'= IS1U60 > from SHARP, I was looking in many electronic sites and the minimun is= 50 pcs. > of an electronic distributor that sell individual 'infrared detector' IS1U60 > from SHARP, I was looking in many electronic sites and the minimun is 50 pcs. 46,47c45 > Or... could somebody to sell me 2 pcs.? I pay the mail and all aroun= d it. > Or... could somebody to sell me 2 pcs.? I pay the mail and all around it. 49,54c47,49 You might want to consider just using the more commonly available metal= can IR detectors. I think they are even available at Radio Shack, and I think= DigiKey sells them as well. The pinouts are *not* the same, so you'll need to = work out You might want to consider just using the more commonly available metal can IR detectors. I think they are even available at Radio Shack, and I think DigiKey sells them as well. The pinouts are *not* the same, so you'll need to work out 57,58c52 We've built 20 HandyBoards now here at MARS (Missouri Area Robotics Soc= iety) in We've built 20 HandyBoards now here at MARS (Missouri Area Robotics Society) in 60,61c54 Louis; and the only part we've had trouble finding is the IS1U60. I th= ink the Louis; and the only part we've had trouble finding is the IS1U60. I think the 63,64c56 detector is more useful with a cable anyway, so why not just use the me= tal can detector is more useful with a cable anyway, so why not just use the metal can 70,74d61 =
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4348 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 74 Lines: 60 21,22c22 are you shure, you have the right pins from the stepper to the outgoing p= ins are you shure, you have the right pins from the stepper to the outgoing pins 24,25c24 If you exchange the cables, your stepper motor only do some vibrations or= doing If you exchange the cables, your stepper motor only do some vibrations or doing 28,29c27 The easiest way to test the sequence is the following (Stepper Motor with= 5 or 6 The easiest way to test the sequence is the following (Stepper Motor with 5 or 6 42c40 it doesn=B4t work then go to STEP 2 it doesn´t work then go to STEP 2 45c43 change Stepper in 1 with Stepper in 4 it doesn=B4t work go to STEP 3 change Stepper in 1 with Stepper in 4 it doesn´t work go to STEP 3 48c46 change Stepper in 2 with Stepper in 3 it doesn=B4t work go to STEP 4 change Stepper in 2 with Stepper in 3 it doesn´t work go to STEP 4 51,52c49 change Stepper in 3 with Stepper in 4 it doesn=B4t work you have a big= problem change Stepper in 3 with Stepper in 4 it doesn´t work you have a big problem 58,59c55 With this equipment i test my Motorpins. It=B4s very easy and i have the = correct With this equipment i test my Motorpins. It´s very easy and i have the correct 69,84c65,72 > I've encounter some problem on using the stepper motor with my self-bui= lt > driver. I am not using the driver in the HB. I have to build out a dri= ver.. > The driver chip I use is L298 and logic gate chip is L297 or 374( this = chip > also use in HB) . When I connect the motor to it, there is vibration in= side > the motor. However, the shaft of the motor is not turning at all. I sus= pect > that the step sequence is not correct. As a result. I found out that al= l > the step sequence are the same for every clock pulse . According to th= e > theory, there should be a 4 step sequece with each sequence is being de= lay.. > I've encounter some problem on using the stepper motor with my self-built > driver. I am not using the driver in the HB. I have to build out a driver.. > The driver chip I use is L298 and logic gate chip is L297 or 374( this chip > also use in HB) . When I connect the motor to it, there is vibration inside > the motor. However, the shaft of the motor is not turning at all. I suspect > that the step sequence is not correct. As a result. I found out that all > the step sequence are the same for every clock pulse . According to the > theory, there should be a 4 step sequece with each sequence is being delay.. 86,87c74 > How should rectify this problem in order to cause the shaft of the moto= r to > How should rectify this problem in order to cause the shaft of the motor to 93,96d79
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4352 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 28 Lines: 26 22,23c23 And that is to find an old Polaroid camera. That's the hardest part but = allot And that is to find an old Polaroid camera. That's the hardest part but allot 27,28c27 When you open it up there will be the Sonar board complete with = transducer. When you open it up there will be the Sonar board complete with transducer.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4402 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 18,22c19,22 Hello. I am looking at using my Handyboard to do PID control of a = motor, with the feedback coming from one of the analog inputs. From = what I understand, tuning the control is the most difficult part. Has = anyone tried this with the Handyboard, have code available, or have any = suggestion? Hello. I am looking at using my Handyboard to do PID control of a motor, with the feedback coming from one of the analog inputs. From what I understand, tuning the control is the most difficult part. Has anyone tried this with the Handyboard, have code available, or have any suggestion?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4403 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17,22c18,23 I'm doing a project for school. I'm buiding a fire fighting robot and I = need to do research on what other people have done in the past with fire = fighting robots. For example the Trinity College contest, if there's a = URL please E-Mail it to the list. Or you can just E-Mail info about = your robot to the mailing list. If there is anyone who doesn't want me = to use his/her name in my report please indicate that in your response. I'm doing a project for school. I'm buiding a fire fighting robot and I need to do research on what other people have done in the past with fire fighting robots. For example the Trinity College contest, if there's a URL please E-Mail it to the list. Or you can just E-Mail info about your robot to the mailing list. If there is anyone who doesn't want me to use his/her name in my report please indicate that in your response. 28d28
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4427 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 17c18 Hi,=20 Hi, 19c20 Is it possible for 2 HBs to communicate via the serial port using Randy = Is it possible for 2 HBs to communicate via the serial port using Randy 22,25c23,25 I'm not too smart in electronics so I plugged a standard telephone cable = between two HBs and one of them turned off and smoke came from around = the SPI. I don't need to send strings just simple characters. Any help = would be appreciated.=20 I'm not too smart in electronics so I plugged a standard telephone cable between two HBs and one of them turned off and smoke came from around the SPI. I don't need to send strings just simple characters. Any help would be appreciated. 27,28c27,28 Also does anyone have the ISBN for "Mobile Robots Inspiration to = Implementation" ? Also does anyone have the ISBN for "Mobile Robots Inspiration to Implementation" ? 32d31
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4428 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,22c19,23 I am taking a course on HC11 assembly. I wanted to know how I can use = the Handyboard (and/or the Miniboard, I have both) in this class. The = course uses the Mot EV board and they use the PCBUG11 for everything. = Please tell me the procedures and the software I have to use to run = assembly programs on both boards. Thanks for everyone's help in advance. I am taking a course on HC11 assembly. I wanted to know how I can use the Handyboard (and/or the Miniboard, I have both) in this class. The course uses the Mot EV board and they use the PCBUG11 for everything. Please tell me the procedures and the software I have to use to run assembly programs on both boards. Thanks for everyone's help in advance.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4443 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 27 Lines: 25 18,19c19 Off course !!! I=B4m using that memory from dallas about a year to date. = works Off course !!! I´m using that memory from dallas about a year to date. works 23,24c23 Sometimes i can't download the code for a micro and with other don=B4t h= ave Sometimes i can't download the code for a micro and with other don´t have 45,46d43
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4460 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 11 Lines: 5 19,25c20 Thanks the Polaroid sensors work great. But I'm having trouble getting = the two Handy Boards to commicate using Randy's routiine for the 6.270 = board. I have one board print everything that it gets from the serial = port. And I have another transmitting. The only thing that happens is = if I turn the transmitting one on while it is connected to the recieving = one then it displays a number. But it doesn't display the number that I = told it to send. Any info would be helpful. Thanks the Polaroid sensors work great. But I'm having trouble getting the two Handy Boards to commicate using Randy's routiine for the 6.270 board. I have one board print everything that it gets from the serial port. And I have another transmitting. The only thing that happens is if I turn the transmitting one on while it is connected to the recieving one then it displays a number. But it doesn't display the number that I told it to send. Any info would be helpful. 28d22
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4481 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 36 21c22 Spezifikationen =FCber die 68HC Familie kannst Du direkt =FCber Motorola Spezifikationen über die 68HC Familie kannst Du direkt über Motorola 23c24 lediglich mit der Literaturabteilung verbinden lassen (Ich habe f=FCr die lediglich mit der Literaturabteilung verbinden lassen (Ich habe für die 26c27 Hier ein Motorola B=FCcher-Link: Hier ein Motorola Bücher-Link: 32c33 81829 M=FCnchen 81829 München 34,35c35 Fax 0 89/9 21 03 - 1 0= 1 Fax 0 89/9 21 03 - 1 01 38c38 Viel Gl=FCck Viel Glück 50,51c50 > because I want to use one in another application. If someone, any where= , > because I want to use one in another application. If someone, any where, 57,60d55
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4489 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 65 Lines: 59 19,22c20,22 Pls man... don=B4t ask the mail with handyboard mailing list in the secon= d place !!! My Rules Wizard don=B4t detect that!!!! I=B4m tired of clean my input folder!!! Pls man... don´t ask the mail with handyboard mailing list in the second place !!! My Rules Wizard don´t detect that!!!! I´m tired of clean my input folder!!! 54,55c54 > > > understand what is going on. But, I am reading and learning. I ju= st > > > understand what is going on. But, I am reading and learning. I just 57,58c56 > > > out that you helped with the creation of the Legos Mindstorm robots= , > > > out that you helped with the creation of the Legos Mindstorm robots, 60,61c58 > > > I have purchased two for my science classes. Unfornuately, they on= ly > > > I have purchased two for my science classes. Unfornuately, they only 65,66c62 > > > couple of computers to run the Mindstorms, so in time, we should be= up > > > couple of computers to run the Mindstorms, so in time, we should be up 68,69c64 > > > running. I was wondering, how similar/dissimilar are the Mindstorm= s > > > running. I was wondering, how similar/dissimilar are the Mindstorms 84,85d78
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4557 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 79 Lines: 69 18,19c19 "HI" , I am trying to read the A/D converter but the program gets "Hung-U= p" "HI" , I am trying to read the A/D converter but the program gets "Hung-Up" 26,27c26 /* Program to read PE1, ADR2 of Analog to Digital and write = /* Program to read PE1, ADR2 of Analog to Digital and write 39,40c38 FCB 0 = FCB 0 50,55c48,50 LDX #BASE = LDAB #$65 ;0110 0101 = STAB HPRIO,X ;HPRIOtest SMOD & MDA bit(normal expanded mode)= LDX #BASE LDAB #$65 ;0110 0101 STAB HPRIO,X ;HPRIOtest SMOD & MDA bit(normal expanded mode) 67,68c62 /* ; and data byte to PORTC*/ = /* ; and data byte to PORTC*/ 70,71c64 /*******************A/D subroutine*******************/ = /*******************A/D subroutine*******************/ 75,80c68,71 BSET OPTION,X,$80 ; ADPU=3Dto power up,set bit in mem. BCLR OPTION,X $40 ; CSEL =3D 0 to select clock = LDX #60 ;Delay >100us for E=3D3MHZ or less DLY100 = BSET OPTION,X,$80 ; ADPU=to power up,set bit in mem. BCLR OPTION,X $40 ; CSEL = 0 to select clock LDX #60 ;Delay >100us for E=3MHZ or less DLY100 97d87
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4574 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 12 Lines: 10 18,19c19 Thank you for the "Hint" Kevin Smith , Assistant Professor at Brigham You= ng Thank you for the "Hint" Kevin Smith , Assistant Professor at Brigham Young 27,28c27 Electrical Engineering Department = Electrical Engineering Department 30d28
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4576 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 22,23c23,24 Few days ago it works proberly, now i doesn=B4t go into the bootstrap modus. Both leds (red+green) lights and i can=B4t download the Few days ago it works proberly, now i doesn´t go into the bootstrap modus. Both leds (red+green) lights and i can´t download the 26,27c27 I tested the board with and without the serial interface. But it doesn=B4= t I tested the board with and without the serial interface. But it doesn´t 29c29 work it didn=B4t go into the bootstrapmode. work it didn´t go into the bootstrapmode. 32c32 bootstrap mode but most times it didn=B4t work :-( bootstrap mode but most times it didn´t work :-( 38,43d37
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4582 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 30,31c31 I=B4m using that nvrmas on HB and work excellent. You simply put the memo= ry I´m using that nvrmas on HB and work excellent. You simply put the memory 36,37d35
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4590 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 20,21c21,22 I've got a quick question for anyone out there have any experience with = power distribution systems using multiple batteries... I've got a quick question for anyone out there have any experience with power distribution systems using multiple batteries... 23,32c24,32 If I have say six [more or less identical] batteries... am I better off = to run them all at once (in whatever config I need) or to only switch on = the ones I need at the moment? In other words, let's say I need 12 volts = for several hours and each battery can supply an amp-hour.. is it better = to run all the batteries in parallel at the same time and let them run = down together, or to first switch one on then the next and so on as = required? Is there a practical advantage to either method (other than = the obvious one of accidental power drain in one battery not draining = them all)? Are there any good references on power distribution I should = look at??? If I have say six [more or less identical] batteries... am I better off to run them all at once (in whatever config I need) or to only switch on the ones I need at the moment? In other words, let's say I need 12 volts for several hours and each battery can supply an amp-hour.. is it better to run all the batteries in parallel at the same time and let them run down together, or to first switch one on then the next and so on as required? Is there a practical advantage to either method (other than the obvious one of accidental power drain in one battery not draining them all)? Are there any good references on power distribution I should look at???
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4591 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 9 Lines: 8 19c20 ZM33064C (5vcc, 4=2E6v thresh, sinks 60mA) in place of the Dallas ZM33064C (5vcc, 4.6v thresh, sinks 60mA) in place of the Dallas 22,23c23 than 2x16=2E Specifically I have an Optrex 20x4 that I would like to use=2E =20= than 2x16. Specifically I have an Optrex 20x4 that I would like to use. 27,28d26
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4601 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 29,30c30 .html. On this page Fred gives the addresses of many Robot Mat=E9riel= Suppliers .html. On this page Fred gives the addresses of many Robot Matériel Suppliers 39d38
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4602 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 32 Lines: 29 20,21c21,22 If you go look at the imagesco page the sensor is the Part number FLX-01 and= they are priced at $10.00 each. This is where I got my $10 quote ;^( If you go look at the imagesco page the sensor is the Part number FLX-01 and they are priced at $10.00 each. This is where I got my $10 quote ;^( 23,24c24 I guess there was a 50% raise in the price since Fred Martin updated the= FAQ... I guess there was a 50% raise in the price since Fred Martin updated the FAQ... 41,44c41,42 >http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/howtoget/robstuf= f >.html. On this page Fred gives the addresses of many Robot Mat=E9riel= Suppliers >http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/howtoget/robstuff >.html. On this page Fred gives the addresses of many Robot Matériel Suppliers 52,55d49
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4616 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Can someone point me in the direction of using a 20 x 4 LCD=2E I saw a Can someone point me in the direction of using a 20 x 4 LCD. I saw a 20,21c21,22 command line switch specifying the LCD dimensions=2E What do need to recompile, only the P_code=2Es19 file?? How do I accomplish this??? command line switch specifying the LCD dimensions. What do need to recompile, only the P_code.s19 file?? How do I accomplish this??? 23c24 Any help or suggestions appreciated=2E Any help or suggestions appreciated. 25,26d25
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4624 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,25c21,26 the config register is set to 0xFF=2E I retried several times but the config register always reads 0xFF=2E I am using an E2 (2k eeprom) version of the HC11=2E I tried using the -eeprom (Burn Eeprom) switch but got the same result=2E What could be keeping the config register from being reset=2E I used this processor in a previous project if that matters=2E=2E=2E Any suggestions=2E=2E=2E I'm stuck=2E=2E=2E the config register is set to 0xFF. I retried several times but the config register always reads 0xFF. I am using an E2 (2k eeprom) version of the HC11. I tried using the -eeprom (Burn Eeprom) switch but got the same result. What could be keeping the config register from being reset. I used this processor in a previous project if that matters... Any suggestions... I'm stuck... 27,28d27
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4661 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 91 Lines: 77 25,28c26,27 A simple example to double a number entered from a = "C" program, multiply it in assembly code, = A simple example to double a number entered from a "C" program, multiply it in assembly code, 30,33c29,30 will be explained here . = The process is as follows: write the assembly code, = will be explained here . The process is as follows: write the assembly code, 37,38c34 the name of the file is ASMTEST and the extensions = the name of the file is ASMTEST and the extensions 41,42c37 ASMTEST.ICB ; a file that was assembled into "S" = ASMTEST.ICB ; a file that was assembled into "S" 46,47c41 AS11_IC ; a batch file that assembles, creates = AS11_IC ; a batch file that assembles, creates 63,64c57 RTS : return of subroutine = RTS : return of subroutine 74,75c67 subroutine_double 872b *0007 = subroutine_double 872b *0007 84,86c76,77 { = printf("asmtest # =3D %d\n",double(5)); /*assembly subroutine*/ { printf("asmtest # = %d\n",double(5)); /*assembly subroutine*/ 88,89c79 } = } 97,102c87,89 downloads and executes the MAIN() , the turn = the Handy Board "OFF" and then "ON". = "The asmtest # =3D 10" should be displayed on the = downloads and executes the MAIN() , the turn the Handy Board "OFF" and then "ON". "The asmtest # = 10" should be displayed on the 109d95
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4671 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 43 Lines: 42 23,24c24 http://lcs.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/maillist/index.h= tml http://lcs.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/maillist/index.html 32c32 >on something I=92m interested in. >on something I’m interested in. 34c34 >I=92ve worked both as a Professional Firefighter and Pilot. I am >I’ve worked both as a Professional Firefighter and Pilot. I am 46c46 >I think all the technology exists today I=92m just not sure how to go >I think all the technology exists today I’m just not sure how to go 61,64d60
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4672 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 8 Lines: 7 19,21c20,21 the HB including the DS1233, HC11, motor controllers and an LCD=2E I can't find it now=2E=2E=2E does anyone know of such a thing??? It would help=2E P=2ES=2E= - the HB including the DS1233, HC11, motor controllers and an LCD. I can't find it now... does anyone know of such a thing??? It would help. P.S. - 23c23 board may I suggest simply buying a pre-built and tested unit=2E There is no board may I suggest simply buying a pre-built and tested unit. There is no 25,28c25 it=2E -Drew it. -Drew
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4679 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 82 Lines: 70 21,28c22,28 I'm a big fan of the Handy Board, but you might want to also consider usi= ng a 3Com PalmPilot. The current model, Palm III, has a backlit 160x160 graphics d= isplay, a 2MByte memory, and while I haven't used it, there is a company that makes= a GPS for it. I know that there are numerous real time mapping products out there = already I'm a big fan of the Handy Board, but you might want to also consider using a 3Com PalmPilot. The current model, Palm III, has a backlit 160x160 graphics display, a 2MByte memory, and while I haven't used it, there is a company that makes a GPS for it. I know that there are numerous real time mapping products out there already 31,38c31,35 It sounds like your database of "waypoints" would consist primarily of = a list of X,Y coordinates, and be limited in area, so I would think that a database= on the order of a few 100,000 waypoints could be stored in a Palm III. And if y= ou need more memory there are lots of other handheld computers out there with gra= phics It sounds like your database of "waypoints" would consist primarily of a list of X,Y coordinates, and be limited in area, so I would think that a database on the order of a few 100,000 waypoints could be stored in a Palm III. And if you need more memory there are lots of other handheld computers out there with graphics 41,54c38,48 Since you are a pilot I'm sure you are familiar with GPS technology, but = if you've never used one for ground based applications you might want to also resea= rch "differential" GPS. I would think that finding a hydrant hidden in some = bushes might require some very good resolution. I've used GPS for hiking and fo= r mapping the location of trees and plants, so I know that the real world performan= ce of *low cost* GPS units on the ground can be very poor. Some of the toughest pla= ces for a GPS to perform are in hilly, heavily forested terrain, but also in metrop= olitan Since you are a pilot I'm sure you are familiar with GPS technology, but if you've never used one for ground based applications you might want to also research "differential" GPS. I would think that finding a hydrant hidden in some bushes might require some very good resolution. I've used GPS for hiking and for mapping the location of trees and plants, so I know that the real world performance of *low cost* GPS units on the ground can be very poor. Some of the toughest places for a GPS to perform are in hilly, heavily forested terrain, but also in metropolitan 70,71c64 > http://lcs.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/maillist/in= dex.html > http://lcs.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/maillist/index.html 75,79c68,70 > >I came across your page while searching for some information on the LE= GO > >Mindstorm product I want to buy my niece. I wanted to ask for some he= lp > >on something I=92m interested in. > >I came across your page while searching for some information on the LEGO > >Mindstorm product I want to buy my niece. I wanted to ask for some help > >on something I’m interested in. 81c72 > >I=92ve worked both as a Professional Firefighter and Pilot. I am > >I’ve worked both as a Professional Firefighter and Pilot. I am 84,85c75 > >Knowing the location of the hydrant in relation to he fire building ca= n > >Knowing the location of the hydrant in relation to he fire building can 89,90c79 > >inexpensive hydrant finder. A GPS receiver could determine the pumper= s > >inexpensive hydrant finder. A GPS receiver could determine the pumpers 95c84 > >I think all the technology exists today I=92m just not sure how to go > >I think all the technology exists today I’m just not sure how to go 101,102d89
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4687 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 14 Lines: 13 18c19 >>> "Gavin=2EKnight@sbcl=2Ecom=2Eau" 11/08/98 09:04pm >>> >>> "Gavin.Knight@sbcl.com.au" 11/08/98 09:04pm >>> 20,21c21 robot controlled by a handyboard?=20= robot controlled by a handyboard? 26c26 style camera interfacing an HC11 board robot=2E I think they use the Mobile style camera interfacing an HC11 board robot. I think they use the Mobile 29,30c29,30 quickcam head that certainly LOOKS cool=2E I don't have the web address but they are easy to find=2E quickcam head that certainly LOOKS cool. I don't have the web address but they are easy to find. 32,33d31
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4722 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 21 Lines: 15 17c18 Hi,=20 Hi, 19,24c20 I'm using the Polaroid 6500 ranging board with the sonar routines on = the HB web site. When I call the sonar on one HB it returns -1 but when = I try it on another HB it works fine. So it isn't the sensor. Could = anyone tell me which conections on my HB would cause this result. Would = it be the SPI header(??). I'm not too verse in electronics so any help = would be greatly appreciated. I'm using the Polaroid 6500 ranging board with the sonar routines on the HB web site. When I call the sonar on one HB it returns -1 but when I try it on another HB it works fine. So it isn't the sensor. Could anyone tell me which conections on my HB would cause this result. Would it be the SPI header(??). I'm not too verse in electronics so any help would be greatly appreciated. 29,30c25 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 38,39d32
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4741 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 =09Greetings, Greetings, 20,23c21,24 =09We are using a LMD18200-based H-bridge circuit from =09Wirz Electronics to drive our motors. We simply removed =09a L293 chip from its socket and ran the signals (a short =09distance) to the LMD18200 circuit. We are using a LMD18200-based H-bridge circuit from Wirz Electronics to drive our motors. We simply removed a L293 chip from its socket and ran the signals (a short distance) to the LMD18200 circuit. 25c26 =09 Marco A. A. de Oliveira=09 assfalk@eece.unm.edu Marco A. A. de Oliveira assfalk@eece.unm.edu 27,28c28,29 | semi-Research Asst. =09| CNPq Scholarship recipient | | ACE SMR Project | =09=09 | | semi-Research Asst. | CNPq Scholarship recipient | | ACE SMR Project | | 32,45c33,43 =09| UNM/NASA ACE Center=09=09| UFG- Esc.Eng.El=E9trica (EEE) =09| EECE Bldg. Rm. 110=09=09| Pr.Universit=E1ria, s/no | =09| Albuquerque, NM=09=09| Goi=E2nia, GO | =09| USA 87131=09=09=09| BRASIL=09 74605-220 | =09|-------------------------------+----------------------------| =09| http://ace.unm.edu=09 | http://www.eee.ufg.br | =09|-------------------------------+----------------------------| | Office: +1-505-277-1437=09| Main | | Fax: +1-505-277-4681=09| Voice/fax: +55-62-2050325 | | Lab: +1-505-277-0297=09| | =09\-------------------------------^----------------------------/ | UNM/NASA ACE Center | UFG- Esc.Eng.Elétrica (EEE) | EECE Bldg. Rm. 110 | Pr.Universitária, s/no | | Albuquerque, NM | Goiânia, GO | | USA 87131 | BRASIL 74605-220 | |-------------------------------+----------------------------| | http://ace.unm.edu | http://www.eee.ufg.br | |-------------------------------+----------------------------| | Office: +1-505-277-1437 | Main | | Fax: +1-505-277-4681 | Voice/fax: +55-62-2050325 | | Lab: +1-505-277-0297 | | \-------------------------------^----------------------------/
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4744 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,28c20,29 =20 I have successfully downloaded the pcode_hb.s19, but my computer can't = synchronized with my Handy board. It always return the message "Handy = board not responding". What should i do now ??? I'm using Windows 95 on a 233Mhz machine, and i have try those = suggestions in the FAQ section. =20 Does anyone one the correct port settings to use ? The Bits per second, = number of data bits and stop bits, parity bit and the flow control type. =20 I have successfully downloaded the pcode_hb.s19, but my computer can't synchronized with my Handy board. It always return the message "Handy board not responding". What should i do now ??? I'm using Windows 95 on a 233Mhz machine, and i have try those suggestions in the FAQ section. Does anyone one the correct port settings to use ? The Bits per second, number of data bits and stop bits, parity bit and the flow control type. 30c31 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4745 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 15c16 Lines: 99 Lines: 95 17,20c18,21 I need for two HBs to communicate via the serial port. I'm using the = "network" style cable. With Randy Seargent's serialio routines and the = code that is in the HB FAQ. Please Help my project is due the Monday = after Thanksgiving. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I need for two HBs to communicate via the serial port. I'm using the "network" style cable. With Randy Seargent's serialio routines and the code that is in the HB FAQ. Please Help my project is due the Monday after Thanksgiving. Any input would be greatly appreciated. 27,28c28 while (!(peek(0x102e) & 0x80)); /* wait until serial transmit empty = */ while (!(peek(0x102e) & 0x80)); /* wait until serial transmit empty */ 34c34 int leading_digit=3D 0; int leading_digit= 0; 37c37 if (n =3D=3D 0) { if (n == 0) { 41c41 =20 44c44 n =3D 0 - n; n = 0 - n; 46,49c46,49 =20 for (div=3D 10000; div=3D div/10; div> 0) { dig=3D n/div; n=3D n - dig*div; for (div= 10000; div= div/10; div> 0) { dig= n/div; n= n - dig*div; 52c52 leading_digit=3D 1; leading_digit= 1; 63c63 /*To start a new line on the serial output, use:*/=20 /*To start a new line on the serial output, use:*/ 78,79c78 void disable_pcode_serial() /* necessary to receive characters using = serial_getchar */ void disable_pcode_serial() /* necessary to receive characters using serial_getchar */ 84,85c83 void reenable_pcode_serial() /* necessary for IC to interact with = board again */ void reenable_pcode_serial() /* necessary for IC to interact with board again */ 107,108c105 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 116,117d112
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4751 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 7 Lines: 6 18,19c19 Anyone konw if is possible to implement a watchdog in the Handyboard? I t= ry Anyone konw if is possible to implement a watchdog in the Handyboard? I try 24,26c24 Germ=E1n Gentile Germán Gentile
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4753 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 8 Lines: 6 18,19c19 Is it ok to use batteries of the sealed lead-acid type (from a UPS)=2E I h= ave=20= Is it ok to use batteries of the sealed lead-acid type (from a UPS). I have 21,22c21 V 7=2E5 Ah and I was wondering if the battery charge circuts would V 7.5 Ah and I was wondering if the battery charge circuts would 24c23 battery=2E Are there any considerations other than charging=2E battery. Are there any considerations other than charging. 26,27d24
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4757 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 i have a big problem, i want to use the ports Y0-Y5 but i don=B4t know i have a big problem, i want to use the ports Y0-Y5 but i don´t know 28c29 I=B4m want to use a Sharp GP2D02 Distance Sensor, for this sensor i need I´m want to use a Sharp GP2D02 Distance Sensor, for this sensor i need 37,38d37
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4761 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 8 Lines: 6 19,24c20,23 Serial/charger board will work well with a sealed lead-acid/gel-cell=2E=20= r=20= than the pleasure of smelling boiling H2SO4 what could happen??=20= ould be=20= convienent to just use the HB charger but I don't think the NiCd pack will last long running two motors, a servo, sonar et al=2E=2E=2E Serial/charger board will work well with a sealed lead-acid/gel-cell. r than the pleasure of smelling boiling H2SO4 what could happen?? ould be convienent to just use the HB charger but I don't think the NiCd pack will last long running two motors, a servo, sonar et al... 26,27d24
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4767 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 19,24c20,24 Does anyone have any tips on compling *.ICB files on Windows NT? = I have IC 3.2. Using the as11_ic.bat file works with much = modifications to the the *.asm files. The web based complier at Newton = Labs compiles the code, but loading the ICB file through IC causes it to = crash.....I can't win. Does anyone have a simple method that works for = them? Does anyone have any tips on compling *.ICB files on Windows NT? I have IC 3.2. Using the as11_ic.bat file works with much modifications to the the *.asm files. The web based complier at Newton Labs compiles the code, but loading the ICB file through IC causes it to crash.....I can't win. Does anyone have a simple method that works for them?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4770 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,23c21,24 Does anyone know the what is the most suitable port settings to use ? = The Bits per second, number of data bits and stop bits, parity bit and = the flow control type. =20 Does anyone know the what is the most suitable port settings to use ? The Bits per second, number of data bits and stop bits, parity bit and the flow control type.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4790 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 have somebody experience with the Sharp GP2D02 IR-Distance Sensor. It=B4s have somebody experience with the Sharp GP2D02 IR-Distance Sensor. It´s 32,33d32
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4804 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 60 Lines: 54 25,26c26 It is possible to measure distances between 8-80cm, with a accuracy from = round It is possible to measure distances between 8-80cm, with a accuracy from round 30,31c30 My software interface (Assembler) worked not properly, i think i have tim= ing My software interface (Assembler) worked not properly, i think i have timing 37c36 The GP2D02 is a "Position sensitive detector =3D PSD" it works like The GP2D02 is a "Position sensitive detector = PSD" it works like 55,58c54,55 > Does it also need modulated output? Actually, I was experimenting with = the > Sharp GP1U58X ir detector and i cannot get it to sense the ir radiation= s.. > Does it also need modulated output? Actually, I was experimenting with the > Sharp GP1U58X ir detector and i cannot get it to sense the ir radiations.. 64,65c61 > > have somebody experience with the Sharp GP2D02 IR-Distance Sensor. It= =B4s > > have somebody experience with the Sharp GP2D02 IR-Distance Sensor. It´s 69,70c65 > > I plan it to connect via the SPI connector on the handyboard, but tod= ay > > I plan it to connect via the SPI connector on the handyboard, but today 79,82d73
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4806 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 I=B4m building sumo-roboters. I´m building sumo-roboters. 36,41c37 i=B4m not online, sorry ! i´m not online, sorry !
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4840 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,20c19,21 jameco (www=2Ejameco=2Ecom) has several new gear head motors in the 3-12v range with various gear ratios=2E I ordered two for my latest project and they seem to be solid and up to the task=2E jameco's latest catalog also jameco (www.jameco.com) has several new gear head motors in the 3-12v range with various gear ratios. I ordered two for my latest project and they seem to be solid and up to the task. jameco's latest catalog also 22c23 drive chain=2E check it out=2E=2E=2E drive chain. check it out... 25,32c26,29 >>> "chrisj@mindless=2Ecom" 11/29/98 05:42pm >>> Hi all=2E=2E=2E=2EI'm looking for a good source of 9V gear motors that i could use with the handyboard for a mobile robot=2E Currently, i am just using Any advice on good drive systems would be greatly appreciated=2E =20= >>> "chrisj@mindless.com" 11/29/98 05:42pm >>> Hi all....I'm looking for a good source of 9V gear motors that i could use with the handyboard for a mobile robot. Currently, i am just using Any advice on good drive systems would be greatly appreciated.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4864 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,22c20,23 I am writing PID code that runs on the system interrupt. I = am finding that I have to rewrite alot of the great math functionality = available through IC. Does anyone know of a way to use an IC function = on a regular system interrupt schedule? I am writing PID code that runs on the system interrupt. I am finding that I have to rewrite alot of the great math functionality available through IC. Does anyone know of a way to use an IC function on a regular system interrupt schedule?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4874 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 >>> "mar@cooper=2Eedu" 12/03/98 09:38pm >>> >>> "mar@cooper.edu" 12/03/98 09:38pm >>> 24,25c25,26 impression that the robot is talking=2E In addition, we want to be able to hear what the robot hears=2E impression that the robot is talking. In addition, we want to be able to hear what the robot hears. 30c31 Thanks for any input=2E :) Thanks for any input. :) 34c35 mar@cooper=2Eedu mar@cooper.edu 40,44d40
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4893 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 31c32 =A0 34c35 =A0=A0=A0=A0 San Luis Obispo San Luis Obispo 48c49 > Now, a friend, want to buy a hb too, but i don=B4t find any web-links > Now, a friend, want to buy a hb too, but i don´t find any web-links 51c52 > I=B4m looking for a Handyboard Kit. Where can i buy it ? > I´m looking for a Handyboard Kit. Where can i buy it ? 58,59d58
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4903 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,20c19,21 I bought both from B=2EG=2E Micro=2E (They were not selling the 3=2E12MHz crystal, however, I successfully used a slightly faster (3=2E26??) clock=2E I assume the pitch of the voice was a little higher but it worked=2E I bought both from B.G. Micro. (They were not selling the 3.12MHz crystal, however, I successfully used a slightly faster (3.26??) clock. I assume the pitch of the voice was a little higher but it worked. 23c24 >>> "lroska@cyberus=2Eca" 12/07/98 12:19am >>> >>> "lroska@cyberus.ca" 12/07/98 12:19am >>> 25,30d25
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4921 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 45 Lines: 39 19,22c20,21 That's a funny question. I just finished a class on this exact topic. = The basic determining factors when deciding whether to use a stepper motor or= a That's a funny question. I just finished a class on this exact topic. The basic determining factors when deciding whether to use a stepper motor or a 24,25c23 motors are limited to about 3000 RPM. You should also determine whether = to motors are limited to about 3000 RPM. You should also determine whether to 28,31c26,27 position loss is higher than the cost of implementing a closed loop syste= m. DC servo motors should be used when there is a need for closed-loop contr= ol. position loss is higher than the cost of implementing a closed loop system. DC servo motors should be used when there is a need for closed-loop control. 33,34c29 vendor-supplied cards that are a much preferred route rather that trying = to vendor-supplied cards that are a much preferred route rather that trying to 38c33 =A0 41c36 =A0=A0=A0=A0 San Luis Obispo San Luis Obispo 64,65d58
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4961 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 29c30 Price. =A37.50 Price. £7.50 47,48d47
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4974 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 77 Lines: 64 18,24c19,24 Make sure that your com port 2 is actually wired to the motherboard I've = heard a lot of stories with com ports not working because they forgot to connect the ribbon cable. =20 Check that first. Try booting ito dos and use the DL.exe instead of the = HBDL I have a system similar to yours P200MMX and I could never get the HBDL = to work same error msg. Make sure that your com port 2 is actually wired to the motherboard I've heard a lot of stories with com ports not working because they forgot to connect the ribbon cable. Check that first. Try booting ito dos and use the DL.exe instead of the HBDL I have a system similar to yours P200MMX and I could never get the HBDL to work same error msg. 26,27c26 If I vere you I would invest in the registered ver of IC for $35 can't = go wrong. If I vere you I would invest in the registered ver of IC for $35 can't go wrong. 36,54c35,42 =20 =20 Has anyone had this problem: =20 =20 I am running win 98 on P200 MMX, and com1 is used by a serial = mouse. I just bought the board, serial expansion board, and cables from = Gleason Research. Comm2 is usually used by my internal modem, but I = removed it and changed the bios settings to use the external port. = First, I can't get Hbdl.exe to work under windows, I keep getting the = error "Wrong Port or Board Mode". The board is connected to Port 2, and = is set to download mode, i.e. no lights on the board, power on. The = funny part is, the handy board pwr light comes on but doesn't blink or = anything. Then I get the error list above. =20 Next I tried running dl using the windows .if files, (dl = code_hob.s19), where dl is configured to run on com2. Again the board = is set up in bootstrap download mode, i.e. no lights, power on. I run = dl as above, and I get this=20 =20 Has anyone had this problem: I am running win 98 on P200 MMX, and com1 is used by a serial mouse. I just bought the board, serial expansion board, and cables from Gleason Research. Comm2 is usually used by my internal modem, but I removed it and changed the bios settings to use the external port. First, I can't get Hbdl.exe to work under windows, I keep getting the error "Wrong Port or Board Mode". The board is connected to Port 2, and is set to download mode, i.e. no lights on the board, power on. The funny part is, the handy board pwr light comes on but doesn't blink or anything. Then I get the error list above. Next I tried running dl using the windows .if files, (dl code_hob.s19), where dl is configured to run on com2. Again the board is set up in bootstrap download mode, i.e. no lights, power on. I run dl as above, and I get this 60c48 =20 63,76c51,64 =20 When a press return to start downloading, the pwr light comes on = but does not blink. The ser light on the serial expansion board = flickers leading me to believe that data is being sent.=20 =20 Next I decided to boot to DOS and pull the mouse and just use COM1 = as my download link, but I get the same results. =20 Does the Handy board send data back to the computer through the com = port to signify that it is ready to receive? Is there some setting = somewhere I don't know about? How do I test the Handy=20 board to see if it is transmitting? How do I test the expansion = serial board? =20 =20 When a press return to start downloading, the pwr light comes on but does not blink. The ser light on the serial expansion board flickers leading me to believe that data is being sent. Next I decided to boot to DOS and pull the mouse and just use COM1 as my download link, but I get the same results. Does the Handy board send data back to the computer through the com port to signify that it is ready to receive? Is there some setting somewhere I don't know about? How do I test the Handy board to see if it is transmitting? How do I test the expansion serial board? 78,79c66,67 =20 =20 81c69 =20 85c73 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4979 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 22 Lines: 20 19,29c20,28 =20 I got a hold of a Poloroid OneStep Sonar camera at the second hand = store, but it does not seem to match any of the pinouts I've seen on = the Web... =20 This board has 16pins, I believe this board is manufactured by TI. = I've checked their web site for info, but no luck so far. =20 =20 Has anyone had experience with this board? can you provide a = schematic/pinout? =20 I got a hold of a Poloroid OneStep Sonar camera at the second hand store, but it does not seem to match any of the pinouts I've seen on the Web... This board has 16pins, I believe this board is manufactured by TI. I've checked their web site for info, but no luck so far. Has anyone had experience with this board? can you provide a schematic/pinout?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4994 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 26 Lines: 21 18,20c19,20 I got a hold of a Poloroid OneStep Sonar camera at the second hand = store, but it does not seem to match any of the pinouts I've seen on = the Web... I got a hold of a Poloroid OneStep Sonar camera at the second hand store, but it does not seem to match any of the pinouts I've seen on the Web... 22,25c22 I've aready seen the pinout at WIRZ, but it is not the same. this = board has 16 pins all at the edge of the board. Mark Robillard shows = this very board in his "Microprocessor Controlled Robotics" book, but = he does not show the pinout. I've aready seen the pinout at WIRZ, but it is not the same. this board has 16 pins all at the edge of the board. Mark Robillard shows this very board in his "Microprocessor Controlled Robotics" book, but he does not show the pinout. 27,28c24 Has anyone had experience with this board? can you provide a = schematic/pinout? Has anyone had experience with this board? can you provide a schematic/pinout? 30c26 Also.. Does anyone know how to get a hold of Mark Robillard?=20 Also.. Does anyone know how to get a hold of Mark Robillard?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:4997 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 You don't need to put that code into eeprom=2E Just put the code inside a You don't need to put that code into eeprom. Just put the code inside a 24,26c25,27 Be sure and include the start button logic at the start of your code=2E The handyboard with start and automaticly execute the main function=2E The battery will keep the code in RAM when the board is switched "off"=2E Be sure and include the start button logic at the start of your code. The handyboard with start and automaticly execute the main function. The battery will keep the code in RAM when the board is switched "off". 28c29 >>> "baraki_hh@hotmail=2Ecom" 12/21/98 08:45am >>> >>> "baraki_hh@hotmail.com" 12/21/98 08:45am >>> 33c34 button to run=2E How I can convert my c file to an s19 file so I can button to run. How I can convert my c file to an s19 file so I can 38,42d38
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5013 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 33,34c34,35 >=09---------- >=09From: > ---------- > From: 36,38c37,39 >=09Sent: =09Wednesday, December 23, 1998 8:04 AM >=09To: =09handyboard@media.mit.edu >=09Subject: =09expansion board - servo control > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 8:04 AM > To: handyboard@media.mit.edu > Subject: expansion board - servo control 40c41 >=09Hello, > Hello, 42c43 >=09I emailed this to the handy board list and got one response. I am > I emailed this to the handy board list and got one response. I am 44c45 >=09it back hoping that I can get some more responses from those on the > it back hoping that I can get some more responses from those on the 46c47 >=09and perhaps fred. > and perhaps fred. 48,50c49,51 >=09>Hi, >=09> >=09>I stopped working with the handyboard for a while but just started > >Hi, > > > >I stopped working with the handyboard for a while but just started 52c53 >=09>again. I put the expansion board onto my handyboard and began > >again. I put the expansion board onto my handyboard and began 54c55 >=09>After testing the general tests done before with just the > >After testing the general tests done before with just the 56,58c57,59 >=09>started testing the servo ports. >=09> >=09>I am having some trouble with controlling the ports though. When I > >started testing the servo ports. > > > >I am having some trouble with controlling the ports though. When I 60c61 >=09>init_expbd_servos(int action); from the computer via IC, the motor > >init_expbd_servos(int action); from the computer via IC, the motor 62c63 >=09>completely clockwise. It does not matter what my integer is as > >completely clockwise. It does not matter what my integer is as 64c65 >=09>is not zero. I am not sure what the action variable should be in > >is not zero. I am not sure what the action variable should be in 66c67 >=09>I also am unable to change the direction of the servo no matter > >I also am unable to change the direction of the servo no matter 68c69 >=09>value is given or what value I give servo0, the port that the motor > >value is given or what value I give servo0, the port that the motor 70,80c71,81 >=09>plugged into. >=09> >=09>Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how to control the servo? >=09> >=09>Thanks, >=09> >=09>Scott Sherman >=09>shsc9801@condor.stcloudstate.edu >=09>ACS >=09>SCSU >=09> > >plugged into. > > > >Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how to control the servo? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Scott Sherman > >shsc9801@condor.stcloudstate.edu > >ACS > >SCSU > > 84,85d84
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5015 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 55 Lines: 51 20,23c21,22 black line on a white background. Either way, I am using IR detectors an= d emitters. They are readily available and work very well. I'm sorry I ha= ve black line on a white background. Either way, I am using IR detectors and emitters. They are readily available and work very well. I'm sorry I have 25,26c24 once fine tuned a little bit. If you have questions how the IR works giv= e once fine tuned a little bit. If you have questions how the IR works give 30c28 =A0 33c31 =A0=A0=A0=A0 San Luis Obispo San Luis Obispo 68,69c66 > u could also reply to me on the mailing list if its for convenient for = u > u could also reply to me on the mailing list if its for convenient for u 74,75d70
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5076 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 =A0 26c27 =A0=A0=A0=A0 San Luis Obispo San Luis Obispo 59,60d59
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5090 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,23c20,24 I am investigating createing a wireless serial link between my = PC and handyboard. The cheapest solution I've found is the RF module = from Lynxmotion. Does anyone have any experience with this, or perhaps = suggestions for simpler or more reliable solutions. I found in the = archives a mention of using a IrDa module from TI. What is this? I am investigating createing a wireless serial link between my PC and handyboard. The cheapest solution I've found is the RF module from Lynxmotion. Does anyone have any experience with this, or perhaps suggestions for simpler or more reliable solutions. I found in the archives a mention of using a IrDa module from TI. What is this?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5091 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25c26 64546 M=F6rfelden-Walldorf 64546 Mörfelden-Walldorf 31,32c32,33 Gr=FCnwalder Weg 30 82041 Deisenhofen bei M=FCnchen Grünwalder Weg 30 82041 Deisenhofen bei München 37d37
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5092 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 39 Lines: 38 19c20 =20 25,26c26,27 =20 =20 28,33c29,34 I am investigating createing a wireless serial link between = my PC and handyboard. The cheapest solution I've found is the RF module = from Lynxmotion. Does anyone have any experience with this, or perhaps = suggestions for simpler or more reliable solutions. I found in the = archives a mention of using a IrDa module from TI. What is this? =20 I am investigating createing a wireless serial link between my PC and handyboard. The cheapest solution I've found is the RF module from Lynxmotion. Does anyone have any experience with this, or perhaps suggestions for simpler or more reliable solutions. I found in the archives a mention of using a IrDa module from TI. What is this? 36,45c37,45 =20 =20 I too am interested in this; I have been looking at the RF modules at = http://www.linxtechnologies.com/ their modules are cheaper and offer a = wider range of options. They also have a sample application note that = shows how to implement a simple packet based protocol with error = correction. The big problem with their setup is that you must purchase = an expensive "evaluation" kit prior to placing orders for the real = modules. the modules are cheap; the eval kits have 2 RX / 2 TX modules, = a development board, documentation. I too am interested in this; I have been looking at the RF modules at http://www.linxtechnologies.com/ their modules are cheaper and offer a wider range of options. They also have a sample application note that shows how to implement a simple packet based protocol with error correction. The big problem with their setup is that you must purchase an expensive "evaluation" kit prior to placing orders for the real modules. the modules are cheap; the eval kits have 2 RX / 2 TX modules, a development board, documentation.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5105 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,20c19,21 I just wanted to verify something before I went and purchased the = expansion board. Are the HB's motor outputs still available when using = the expansion board. It is unclear in the doc. I just wanted to verify something before I went and purchased the expansion board. Are the HB's motor outputs still available when using the expansion board. It is unclear in the doc.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5112 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,23c21,24 What I mean by generic, is a board with say a .10 grid hole pattern and = some power and ground traces . A board or boards like this with custom = circuitry, could be stacked on top of the handyboard. This would make = adding widgets a snap. What I mean by generic, is a board with say a .10 grid hole pattern and some power and ground traces . A board or boards like this with custom circuitry, could be stacked on top of the handyboard. This would make adding widgets a snap.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5147 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Thank u.=20 Thank u.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5168 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 42 Lines: 39 25,31c26,30 I=B4m testing several Motors from copier-machines (12V-24V) with my HB. S= ome motors didn=B4t work properly with PWM. For example Motor 24V I=B4m using ist with for 12V Motor (0,100) th= e Motor works fine (100=3DFull speed =3D 12V) I´m testing several Motors from copier-machines (12V-24V) with my HB. Some motors didn´t work properly with PWM. For example Motor 24V I´m using ist with for 12V Motor (0,100) the Motor works fine (100=Full speed = 12V) 33c32 the motor didn=B4t have enough torque !!!! the motor didn´t have enough torque !!!! 35,37c34,35 The main problem is, i found out during my tests, a lot of motors with mo= re then 12V don=B4t work properly with PWM, The main problem is, i found out during my tests, a lot of motors with more then 12V don´t work properly with PWM, 61,64d58
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5169 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 55 Lines: 52 21,23c22,23 ich habe f=FCr mein HB ein Men=FCprogramm geschrieben, mit dem man mehrer= e Men=FCpunkte durchscrollen kann (Parametereingabe etc.) ich habe für mein HB ein Menüprogramm geschrieben, mit dem man mehrere Menüpunkte durchscrollen kann (Parametereingabe etc.) 25,26c25 Falls Du noch interesse hast, sag Bescheid dann kram ich mal den Sourceco= de Falls Du noch interesse hast, sag Bescheid dann kram ich mal den Sourcecode 42,43c41 > Yes, and it is totally trivial to do so. I don't have my sources here = at > Yes, and it is totally trivial to do so. I don't have my sources here at 46c44 > c =3D readknob(); /* or whatever the cmd is for reading it */ > c = readknob(); /* or whatever the cmd is for reading it */ 74,77d71
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5239 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,20c19,21 Is anyone using a compiler other than Interactive C? I like IC but want to = get a bit closer to the metal. Being able to use a source level debugger = would also be good. Is anyone using a compiler other than Interactive C? I like IC but want to get a bit closer to the metal. Being able to use a source level debugger would also be good. 22,24c23,25 I've tried the Introl C compiler demo, and the it looks really good, but = it seems to make assumptions about the location of the interrupt vectors = (such as reset).=20 I've tried the Introl C compiler demo, and the it looks really good, but it seems to make assumptions about the location of the interrupt vectors (such as reset). 27,28d27
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5267 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 28 Lines: 26 18,21c19,21 Just a quick question with regards to executing some instructions = quickly. I'm using the pa7i9600.icb file to control a couple of mini SSCs, and I = need to move 6 servos as close to simultaneously as I can. Just a quick question with regards to executing some instructions quickly. I'm using the pa7i9600.icb file to control a couple of mini SSCs, and I need to move 6 servos as close to simultaneously as I can. 35,36c35 PS Check out my Handyboard-driven hexapod at = http://www.wantree.com.au/~oli PS Check out my Handyboard-driven hexapod at http://www.wantree.com.au/~oli
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5271 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22,30c23,31 >=20 > Is anyone using a compiler other than Interactive C? I like IC but want = to get a bit closer to the metal. Being able to use a source level = debugger would also be good. >=20 > I've tried the Introl C compiler demo, and the it looks really good, but = it seems to make assumptions about the location of the interrupt vectors = (such as reset). >=20 > > Is anyone using a compiler other than Interactive C? I like IC but want to get > a bit closer to the metal. Being able to use a source level debugger would > also be good. > > I've tried the Introl C compiler demo, and the it looks really good, but it > seems to make assumptions about the location of the interrupt vectors (such as > reset). > 44,45d44
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5304 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 18 Lines: 14 20,21c21 two small DC motors. (without killing the IC's or motor) Or will I need = to two small DC motors. (without killing the IC's or motor) Or will I need to 24,25c24 1.5A lock rotor. Is this within the scope of the integrated hbridge of t= he 1.5A lock rotor. Is this within the scope of the integrated hbridge of the 27,30c26,27 I have looked at the chips white papers for temp/current derating. (I fe= el a little lost, trying to interpret the info.) :] I would appreciate som= e I have looked at the chips white papers for temp/current derating. (I feel a little lost, trying to interpret the info.) :] I would appreciate some 34c31 =A0 37,38d33
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5315 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 =A5D=A6=AE: Could I set the RS-232 adlib? ¥D¦®: Could I set the RS-232 adlib? 21,22c22,23 Could I set the serial port (RS-232) adlib to 2400(or 4800) 8 bit, no = parity,and 1 stop bit. Could I set the serial port (RS-232) adlib to 2400(or 4800) 8 bit, no parity,and 1 stop bit. 25c26 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5332 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 39 Lines: 37 18,40c19,39 Hi all,=20 I'm new to the list, handyboards, IC, and robotics, but I'm not totally = clueless so bear with me... So I got an HB from Pat Hui, and it seems to work fine. I've been able = to write a program that will vary a beep tone and print variable values = for light intensity and tone value (my first program!). It uses for now, = eight duracels in the supplied battery case. My problem seems to be the servo function. I've wired a Futaba 148 as = per instructions and loaded servo.icb and servo.c. there are no other = programs loaded. I am running IC ver 3.2, though the screen still prints = ver 3.1(?). I have initialized the servo function by typing "servo_on()" = at the IC prompt. I can't seem to get any activity through the servo = using interactive commands such as "servo(1550)" or "servo_deg(45.0)", = agin, at the IC prompt. When I run these commands, I do get a value = returned occasionally from the board though with no servo activity. More = likely I get an error message - "Board not responding to 119 (w) = command". Am I doing something wrong here? Do I need to implement the commands = through an actual c program? Wrong batteries? Somebody please help the = lowly newbie! Hi all, I'm new to the list, handyboards, IC, and robotics, but I'm not totally clueless so bear with me... So I got an HB from Pat Hui, and it seems to work fine. I've been able to write a program that will vary a beep tone and print variable values for light intensity and tone value (my first program!). It uses for now, eight duracels in the supplied battery case. My problem seems to be the servo function. I've wired a Futaba 148 as per instructions and loaded servo.icb and servo.c. there are no other programs loaded. I am running IC ver 3.2, though the screen still prints ver 3.1(?). I have initialized the servo function by typing "servo_on()" at the IC prompt. I can't seem to get any activity through the servo using interactive commands such as "servo(1550)" or "servo_deg(45.0)", agin, at the IC prompt. When I run these commands, I do get a value returned occasionally from the board though with no servo activity. More likely I get an error message - "Board not responding to 119 (w) command". Am I doing something wrong here? Do I need to implement the commands through an actual c program? Wrong batteries? Somebody please help the lowly newbie! 44,45c43,44 If you do send a response to the board, please cc my direct mail = address, I might not be able to find the post on the list. Thanks again. If you do send a response to the board, please cc my direct mail address, I might not be able to find the post on the list. Thanks again.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5364 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 41 Lines: 40 19,20c20 printed circuit board manufacturer and I am offering the following = sizes to=20 printed circuit board manufacturer and I am offering the following sizes to
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5405 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 55 Lines: 53 19c20 Still a little confused about connecting the sonar unit. Can I simply=20 Still a little confused about connecting the sonar unit. Can I simply 23c24 Thanks=20 Thanks 32,33c33 <1.Install the 9-pin flex cable adapter in the position provided. 2.Solde= r <1.Install the 9-pin flex cable adapter in the position provided. 2.Solder 38c38 http://el.www.media.mit.edu/projects/handy-board/software/sonar.html=20 http://el.www.media.mit.edu/projects/handy-board/software/sonar.html 42c42 =A0 50c50 >=20 > 53c53 > and=20 > and 55c55 >=20 > 60c60 >=20 > 62,64c62,64 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > 66c66 > >=20 > > 68,69c68 > > Where do I look for the directions for connecting the Polaroid sonar = to > > Where do I look for the directions for connecting the Polaroid sonar to 72,74c71 > >=20 > >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5426 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 51 Lines: 48 22c23 cover a 45=B0 arc. Here are my problems/questions: cover a 45° arc. Here are my problems/questions: 24c25 1. How to deal with "jitter" of about =B11 cm at all ranges. My=20 1. How to deal with "jitter" of about ±1 cm at all ranges. My 30c31 faster than the 'bots max velocity ... but what about a=20 faster than the 'bots max velocity ... but what about a 38c39 says 331.6 m/sec at 0=B0C and approx. 354 m/sec at 20=B0C (68=B0F). says 331.6 m/sec at 0°C and approx. 354 m/sec at 20°C (68°F). 48c49 the 6500's capabilities? =20 the 6500's capabilities? 51,52c52 http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/software/contr= ib/adam/mxducr1.gif http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/software/contrib/adam/mxducr1.gif 56,57c56 http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/software/sonar= .html http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/software/sonar.html 59,60c58 http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/software/contr= ib/kent/hbsonar/ http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/software/contrib/kent/hbsonar/ 62c60 or extremely complex (and without code samples) such as=20 or extremely complex (and without code samples) such as 67c65 Any and all comments, suggestions, sample code, pointers to=20 Any and all comments, suggestions, sample code, pointers to 70d67
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5429 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 21 Lines: 19 20,21c21,22 Good comment, Duncan. I intend rotating the 45=B0 coverage through a full 360=B0. Using multiple transducers allows for more frequent Good comment, Duncan. I intend rotating the 45° coverage through a full 360°. Using multiple transducers allows for more frequent 26c27 >=20 > 28c29 >=20 > 30c31 >=20 > 32,37c33,36 > >cover a 45=B0 arc. Here are my problems/questions: >=20 > Umm, just a thought but how about using one sonar unit mounted on a ser= vo > and pinging it over the 45 degree arc? Controlling (positioning) the se= rvo > >cover a 45° arc. Here are my problems/questions: > > Umm, just a thought but how about using one sonar unit mounted on a servo > and pinging it over the 45 degree arc? Controlling (positioning) the servo 39c38 >=20 > 41d39
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5441 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 61 Lines: 60 21,22c22,23 <snip>=20 > 1. How to deal with "jitter" of about =B11 cm at all ranges. My <snip> > 1. How to deal with "jitter" of about ±1 cm at all ranges. My 44c45 > says 331.6 m/sec at 0=B0C and approx. 354 m/sec at 20=B0C (68=B0F). > says 331.6 m/sec at 0°C and approx. 354 m/sec at 20°C (68°F). 59c60 >=20 > 61,62c62 > http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/software/con= trib/adam/mxducr1.gif > http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/handy-board/software/contrib/adam/mxducr1.gif 68c68 field with 5-degree effective resolution. I plan to follow their lead.=20 field with 5-degree effective resolution. I plan to follow their lead. 80d79
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5458 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 I have been following this mailing list and the comp.robotics.misc news = group for quite a while now and I did notice that there seems to be a = lack of good quality and reasonably priced robot bases. I have been following this mailing list and the comp.robotics.misc news group for quite a while now and I did notice that there seems to be a lack of good quality and reasonably priced robot bases. 24,25c25,26 All the ones I saw where way overpriced or way to small to mount any = real hardware All the ones I saw where way overpriced or way to small to mount any real hardware 28,30c29,31 business providing affordable robot bases to serve the robotics = community and would like to get some input from the readers of this news = group to see if there is enough demand to even dream about it. business providing affordable robot bases to serve the robotics community and would like to get some input from the readers of this news group to see if there is enough demand to even dream about it. 32,33c33,34 I would also like to get some feed back to see what sort of robotic base = majority of readers prefer. I would also like to get some feed back to see what sort of robotic base majority of readers prefer.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5546 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 39 Lines: 37 24,25c25 http://arielle.informatik.uni-kl.de/Lehre/Praktikum/Erweiterungen_HW.htm= l#PSD http://arielle.informatik.uni-kl.de/Lehre/Praktikum/Erweiterungen_HW.html#PSD 33,34c33 Ich besch=E4ftige mich mit SUMO-Roboter. Derzeit baue ich einen 1000g Sum= o Ich beschäftige mich mit SUMO-Roboter. Derzeit baue ich einen 1000g Sumo 36c35 K=E4mpfe gewonnen . Kämpfe gewonnen . 58,61d56
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5548 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 44 Lines: 39 18,19c19,20 I'm trying to implement a hardware shaft encoder routine similar to the = the one described in the Mobile Robots Book for my Handy Board. I'm trying to implement a hardware shaft encoder routine similar to the the one described in the Mobile Robots Book for my Handy Board. 21,24c22,25 I'm using the pulse acumulator for the left encoder and TIC2 for the = right shaft encoder. They are both configured to increment the count on = the rising edge of the pulse. The shaft encoders are the reflective type = with a resolution of 16 clicks /rev. I'm using the pulse acumulator for the left encoder and TIC2 for the right shaft encoder. They are both configured to increment the count on the rising edge of the pulse. The shaft encoders are the reflective type with a resolution of 16 clicks /rev. 27,29c28,29 The problem I encountered is that there is a discrepancy between the = pulse accumulator count and the TIC2 count when the input pulse train = goes beyond The problem I encountered is that there is a discrepancy between the pulse accumulator count and the TIC2 count when the input pulse train goes beyond 32,34c32,33 The pulse accumulator counts are greater than the TIC2 counts. However = this problem does not arise if I apply the pulses in a single step = manner. The pulse accumulator counts are greater than the TIC2 counts. However this problem does not arise if I apply the pulses in a single step manner. 36,37c35 The TIC2 is serviced by an interrupt handler routine that is always = running. The TIC2 is serviced by an interrupt handler routine that is always running. 41,42c39 1) Is this problem caused by the interrupt handler routine missing a = pulse? 1) Is this problem caused by the interrupt handler routine missing a pulse? 44,45c41 2) Is it better to implement both shaft encoders in the same interrupt = routine? 2) Is it better to implement both shaft encoders in the same interrupt routine? 47c43 Any suggestions are welcome=20 Any suggestions are welcome 49c45 Thanks in advance=20 Thanks in advance 52c48 =20
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5551 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 12 Lines: 10 18c19 I=B4ve some troubles with my expansion board kit. All work fine but: I´ve some troubles with my expansion board kit. All work fine but: 23,26c24,25 2. I=B4ve connected a polaroid range module and run sonar.c functions. Th= e values always are between 543 and 560. Is it necesary connect a 0,1=B5F i= n 2. I´ve connected a polaroid range module and run sonar.c functions. The values always are between 543 and 560. Is it necesary connect a 0,1µF in 30,32d28
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5561 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 21 21c22 >=09I've hooked up the QRB1114 infrared sensors to the analog input ports. > I've hooked up the QRB1114 infrared sensors to the analog input ports. 32c33,34 Many optically black materials do not at all affect the IR range of the spectrum. Many optically black materials do not at all affect the IR range of the spectrum. 39,40d40
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5637 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,19c19,20 I bought the "Personal Robot Navigator" last year=2E The book focuses on the simulation software (came with the book)=2E There is almost no I bought the "Personal Robot Navigator" last year. The book focuses on the simulation software (came with the book). There is almost no 22,24c23,25 digital compass and location beacons=2E No real world implementation of these is discussed=2E However, there is extensive theoretical software modeling done=2E I would suggest a book like "Artificial Intelligence in digital compass and location beacons. No real world implementation of these is discussed. However, there is extensive theoretical software modeling done. I would suggest a book like "Artificial Intelligence in 26c27 navigation methods=2E navigation methods. 28,29d28
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5696 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 18 Lines: 19 19c20 >=09Has anyone hacked the sonar out of a sonar tape measure? Radio Shack > Has anyone hacked the sonar out of a sonar tape measure? Radio Shack 23c24 >=09I mentioned in a previous posting that I am interested in running six > I mentioned in a previous posting that I am interested in running six 32c33,34 measure. I can't remember where I saw it but I am confident that I had encountered measure. I can't remember where I saw it but I am confident that I had encountered 37,38d38
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5762 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 36c37 =C0 : handyboard@media.mit.edu <handyboard@media.mit.edu> À : handyboard@media.mit.edu <handyboard@media.mit.edu> 51,52d51
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5767 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,22c19,23 Hi, can anyone help me in devolping an unmanned ground vehicle system = using a Hand Board? This is my first experience with the HB, in fact, = I'm actually buying it (sorry, but may be you can also tell me where to = by one by the internet and what to by) =20 Hi, can anyone help me in devolping an unmanned ground vehicle system using a Hand Board? This is my first experience with the HB, in fact, I'm actually buying it (sorry, but may be you can also tell me where to by one by the internet and what to by) 24c25 =20 26c27 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5836 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 9 Lines: 7 18,22c19,21 I actually use a NVRAM memory of Dallas company in place of 62256 and ext= ern battery. I Want to replace in the same socket for a little pcb with 16 K = rom and 16 K ram. I want to know how to do that? Its=B4s posible? I will need I actually use a NVRAM memory of Dallas company in place of 62256 and extern battery. I Want to replace in the same socket for a little pcb with 16 K rom and 16 K ram. I want to know how to do that? Its´s posible? I will need 27,28d25
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5850 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 48 Lines: 45 19c20 There is a cheap simulator for 68HC11 family. I didn=B4t test it. There is a cheap simulator for 68HC11 family. I didn´t test it. 35,36c36 ..........................................................................= .......................... .................................................................................................... 41,42c41 > 68HC11 microcontroller, I apreciate very much your help, also the intern= et > 68HC11 microcontroller, I apreciate very much your help, also the internet 58,59c57 > DEPARMENT OF:| ____\ | | ____ |__ _|| __ ||__ __| | ___| / _ \ | |= > DEPARMENT OF:| ____\ | | ____ |__ _|| __ ||__ __| | ___| / _ \ | | 67d64
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5861 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,31c22,32 Aluminum=20 Axial=20 General Purpose Miniature=20 VX Series=20 Capacitance Value: 470 =B5F =20 Capacitance Tolerance: =B1 20% =20 Capacitance Range: 376.00 =B5F to 564.00 =B5F =20 DC Voltage: 6.3v DC =20 Temperature Range: -40~+85=BA C =20 Part Dimensions: 0.63" (16.0 mm) L x 0.315" (8.0 mm) D x 0.024" (0.6=20 mm) LD =20 Aluminum Axial General Purpose Miniature VX Series Capacitance Value: 470 µF Capacitance Tolerance: ± 20% Capacitance Range: 376.00 µF to 564.00 µF DC Voltage: 6.3v DC Temperature Range: -40~+85º C Part Dimensions: 0.63" (16.0 mm) L x 0.315" (8.0 mm) D x 0.024" (0.6 mm) LD 37,48c38,49 Aluminum=20 Axial=20 General Purpose Miniature=20 Type 516D=20 Capacitance Value: 470 =B5F =20 Capacitance Tolerance: =B1 20% =20 Capacitance Range: 376.00 =B5F to 564.00 =B5F =20 DC Voltage: 6.3v DC=20 Temperature Range: -40~+85=BA C =20 Part Dimensions: 0.63" (16.0 mm) L x 0.315" (8.0 mm) D x 0.024" (0.6=20 mm) LD =20 Part#: 516D477M6R3MM7B=20 Aluminum Axial General Purpose Miniature Type 516D Capacitance Value: 470 µF Capacitance Tolerance: ± 20% Capacitance Range: 376.00 µF to 564.00 µF DC Voltage: 6.3v DC Temperature Range: -40~+85º C Part Dimensions: 0.63" (16.0 mm) L x 0.315" (8.0 mm) D x 0.024" (0.6 mm) LD Part#: 516D477M6R3MM7B 50d50
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5906 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 28 Lines: 27 18,30c19,30 Hi, my name is Becky Browning. I am currently working on building a = robot using the Handy Board. I am having considerable troubles though = getting either the digital or analog inputs to work. Right now I have = analogs ports 0 and 1 working with pre-written programs that I am using = for ultrasonic sensors and a servomotor. Is there some kind of = initialization command that I need to use to get the other ports = working. Or is there different software for the expanded version of the = Handy Board that I may need. I have tryed using different Handy Board's = as well as different circuits. Also, if anybody has just a simple = circuit that they know works with the inputs that will allow me to vary = the inputted value so that I can find out if it is a circuit problem or = a software problem, I would appreciate it. I am open to any and all = suggestions anybody might have regarding this problem. Hi, my name is Becky Browning. I am currently working on building a robot using the Handy Board. I am having considerable troubles though getting either the digital or analog inputs to work. Right now I have analogs ports 0 and 1 working with pre-written programs that I am using for ultrasonic sensors and a servomotor. Is there some kind of initialization command that I need to use to get the other ports working. Or is there different software for the expanded version of the Handy Board that I may need. I have tryed using different Handy Board's as well as different circuits. Also, if anybody has just a simple circuit that they know works with the inputs that will allow me to vary the inputted value so that I can find out if it is a circuit problem or a software problem, I would appreciate it. I am open to any and all suggestions anybody might have regarding this problem.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5926 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 9 Lines: 7 18,19c19,20 I currently use the HB with the Polaroid 6500=2E I'm considering the expansion board and Barry Brouillette's GP2D02 routines for IR ranging=2E=20= I currently use the HB with the Polaroid 6500. I'm considering the expansion board and Barry Brouillette's GP2D02 routines for IR ranging. 21,22c22 these routines interfere with the timing of the sonar=2Ec routines or for these routines interfere with the timing of the sonar.c routines or for 25,28c25 Thanks,=20= ew Thanks, ew
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5946 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 12 Lines: 10 22,23c23 Amps adapters, which kind of problems?. My second question is more trivia= l, Amps adapters, which kind of problems?. My second question is more trivial, 28,32c28 Jos=E9 Lu= is José Luis
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5960 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 24 Lines: 23 20,21c21,22 I would like to know if there is anyone who has a good idea to avoid = obstacles in a intelligent way. I would like to know if there is anyone who has a good idea to avoid obstacles in a intelligent way. 23,29c24,29 My robot has two IR proximity detectors (in front) and four bump = switches (one on each side). If you simple build in a reflex which will = act every time the same, e.g. bump front will cause the robot to move = backward and go left, it will be not enough. At one moment the robot = needs to know was happend some time before. You need some history of all = the sensors, to avoid getting in a loop when the robot is in a corner of = a room/field. My robot has two IR proximity detectors (in front) and four bump switches (one on each side). If you simple build in a reflex which will act every time the same, e.g. bump front will cause the robot to move backward and go left, it will be not enough. At one moment the robot needs to know was happend some time before. You need some history of all the sensors, to avoid getting in a loop when the robot is in a corner of a room/field.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5968 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Warrior robot is essentially stateless=2E You may want to add some kind of Warrior robot is essentially stateless. You may want to add some kind of 21c22 behaviors based on some type of state or map information=2E A book from behaviors based on some type of state or map information. A book from 23c24 on behavior and hybrid robot architectures=2E on behavior and hybrid robot architectures. 26c27 >>> "emiel=2Eagema@multiweb=2Enl" 04/04/99 04:12pm >>> >>> "emiel.agema@multiweb.nl" 04/04/99 04:12pm >>> 30,31c31,32 obstacles in a intelligent way=2E I've build a Rugwarrior robot=2E obstacles in a intelligent way. I've build a Rugwarrior robot. 33,36c34,37 switches (one on each side)=2E If you simple build in a reflex which will act every time the same, e=2Eg=2E bump front will cause the robot to move backward and go left, it will be not enough=2E At one moment the robot needs to know was happend some time before=2E You need some history switches (one on each side). If you simple build in a reflex which will act every time the same, e.g. bump front will cause the robot to move backward and go left, it will be not enough. At one moment the robot needs to know was happend some time before. You need some history 38,39c39,40 of a room/field=2E Any ideas I like to know to solve this problem=2E of a room/field. Any ideas I like to know to solve this problem. 42,46d42
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:5969 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 and the GP2D02 but never received a response=2E My concern is running the sonar, IR and encoder routines concurently as seperate processes=2E and the GP2D02 but never received a response. My concern is running the sonar, IR and encoder routines concurently as seperate processes. 22c23 before I order the Sharp sensors=2E=2E=2E before I order the Sharp sensors... 25c26 >>> "shsc9801@condor=2Estcloudstate=2Eedu" 04/04/99 12:16pm >>> >>> "shsc9801@condor.stcloudstate.edu" 04/04/99 12:16pm >>> 31c32 between the two different sensors=2E If anyone has set it up without between the two different sensors. If anyone has set it up without 33c34 such a conflict I would like to know how they did it=2E such a conflict I would like to know how they did it. 36,40d36
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6031 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 concurrently=2E My servo works fine in a stand alone test file but when I concurrently. My servo works fine in a stand alone test file but when I 21c22 pulse is fluctuating ( I don't have a scope to verify this)=2E The main code pulse is fluctuating ( I don't have a scope to verify this). The main code 23,24c24,25 (scans start button) and a Sonar which I disabled=2E Some of these sensors are located on a servo controlled head=2E What's up?? Am I just (scans start button) and a Sonar which I disabled. Some of these sensors are located on a servo controlled head. What's up?? Am I just 26c27 "ticks" to resolve this? Thanks for any suggestions=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E "ticks" to resolve this? Thanks for any suggestions..... 28,29d28
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6050 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 running as a single process=2E Ok, I confess=2E=2E=2E I recharged it on ZAP and fell asleep=2E=2E=2E Is it possible that either the servo or the HB was damaged running as a single process. Ok, I confess... I recharged it on ZAP and fell asleep... Is it possible that either the servo or the HB was damaged 22c23 seems to function okay=2E=2E=2E seems to function okay... 24,25d24
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6066 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 25 Lines: 24 19,20c20 with the original PWM code)=2E I did notice the jitters more on the low end=2E=20= with the original PWM code). I did notice the jitters more on the low end. 23,24c23,24 on the encoders=2E I am interested in using the servo as a head mounted sensor platform in order to perform tracking=2E The idea is that by on the encoders. I am interested in using the servo as a head mounted sensor platform in order to perform tracking. The idea is that by 26,27c26,27 heading is chosen=2E Does anyone know of a good resource for the types of algolrythms involved in sensor mapping=2E=2E=2E heading is chosen. Does anyone know of a good resource for the types of algolrythms involved in sensor mapping... 31,34c31,34 >>> "wired@cmu=2Eedu" 04/13/99 11:29pm >>> My HB is totally new, and I also have the "jitters"=2E However, I have never Zap charged the unit=2E Although when we observed the jitters we were excessievly calling printf()=2E=2E=2E We more promenently noticed the jitters >>> "wired@cmu.edu" 04/13/99 11:29pm >>> My HB is totally new, and I also have the "jitters". However, I have never Zap charged the unit. Although when we observed the jitters we were excessievly calling printf()... We more promenently noticed the jitters 36c36 running 2 9V motors (with smooth PWM code)=2E The jitters only occures running 2 9V motors (with smooth PWM code). The jitters only occures 38c38 range 20 - 30=2E=2E=2E You can probably best notice this by using the knob to range 20 - 30... You can probably best notice this by using the knob to 40c40 the PWM rate of the motors directly=2E=2E=2E the PWM rate of the motors directly... 43,46d42
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6106 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 31,33c32,34 | UNM/NASA ACE Center | UFG- Esc.Eng.El=E9trica (EEE) | EECE Bldg. Rm. 110 | Pr.Universit=E1ria, s/no | | Albuquerque, NM | Goi=E2nia, GO | | UNM/NASA ACE Center | UFG- Esc.Eng.Elétrica (EEE) | EECE Bldg. Rm. 110 | Pr.Universitária, s/no | | Albuquerque, NM | Goiânia, GO | 42,44d42
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6152 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26c27 >=09I have quite a few battery discharge curves lying around, and one > I have quite a few battery discharge curves lying around, and one 50c51 >=09I get the impression that you would like to know the status of the > I get the impression that you would like to know the status of the 71c72 >=09I personally feel that the right way to go is with a smart power > I personally feel that the right way to go is with a smart power 79c80 >=09It would be nice to hear from the satellite people. They have to be > It would be nice to hear from the satellite people. They have to be 86,87d86
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6183 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 36c37 " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 38,39d38
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6193 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 30 Lines: 24 20,25c21,23 I'm using for my base 12 v geared motors ,without load, each one driv= es less than 100 mA, but when stalled, the current grow to 500 mA, wich is t= o close to the 600 mA of L293 chips, i do not need more current, but i want= to I'm using for my base 12 v geared motors ,without load, each one drives less than 100 mA, but when stalled, the current grow to 500 mA, wich is to close to the 600 mA of L293 chips, i do not need more current, but i want to 28,29c26 1- The simpler, put a 500 mA fuse between L293 and motor, but i dont know= if 1- The simpler, put a 500 mA fuse between L293 and motor, but i dont know if 34,37c31,32 voltage over the resistor, with a 100 mA (0.1 Volt over resistor) you wil= l read, if i'm not wrong, 250 in the analog(), and if the current up to 500= mA voltage over the resistor, with a 100 mA (0.1 Volt over resistor) you will read, if i'm not wrong, 250 in the analog(), and if the current up to 500mA 44c39 Jos=E9 José 48,52d42
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6200 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 20,21c21 DS1233-10, because in Mexico the DS1233-10 does not exists. And I can=B4t= find DS1233-10, because in Mexico the DS1233-10 does not exists. And I can´t find 26c26 Daniel=20 Daniel 32c32 " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 34,35d33
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6210 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 43 Lines: 33 21,28c22,25 You can use the Motorola 34064, I used it in both of the Handyboards I bu= ild. ***WARNING*** the Motorola 34064 and the Dallas Semiconductor DS1233-10 h= ave different pins out. They are both in 3 pin to-92 packages. I don't rememb= er which two pins need to be swapped (check the two data sheets). I put a sm= all You can use the Motorola 34064, I used it in both of the Handyboards I build. ***WARNING*** the Motorola 34064 and the Dallas Semiconductor DS1233-10 have different pins out. They are both in 3 pin to-92 packages. I don't remember which two pins need to be swapped (check the two data sheets). I put a small 35,40c32,34 > = > Does anybody know the motorola susbtitute for the (Dallas Semiconductor= ) > DS1233-10, because in Mexico the DS1233-10 does not exists. And I can=B4= t find > > Does anybody know the motorola susbtitute for the (Dallas Semiconductor) > DS1233-10, because in Mexico the DS1233-10 does not exists. And I can´t find 42,43c36 > = > 45,46c38 > = > 48,49c40 > = > 51c42 > " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" > " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 62d52
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6221 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 34 20c21 =46unctionaly, It seems to work fine. Functionaly, It seems to work fine. 31,34c32,33 >You can use the Motorola 34064, I used it in both of the Handyboards I buil= d. >***WARNING*** the Motorola 34064 and the Dallas Semiconductor DS1233-10 hav= e >You can use the Motorola 34064, I used it in both of the Handyboards I build. >***WARNING*** the Motorola 34064 and the Dallas Semiconductor DS1233-10 have 36,37c35 >which two pins need to be swapped (check the two data sheets). I put a smal= l >which two pins need to be swapped (check the two data sheets). I put a small 46,47c44 >> DS1233-10, because in Mexico the DS1233-10 does not exists. And I can=B4t= find >> DS1233-10, because in Mexico the DS1233-10 does not exists. And I can´t find 57,59d53
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6222 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 52 Lines: 42 23,30c24,29 > This is a warning for anyone considering using the Motorola MC34064 to = replace > the DS1233. I have just built a couple handyboards and I had some probl= ems > getting them working. I finally tracked the problem done to the LVI. I = used the > MC34064 instead of the DS1233 because I had some laying around. WARNING= the pin > This is a warning for anyone considering using the Motorola MC34064 to replace > the DS1233. I have just built a couple handyboards and I had some problems > getting them working. I finally tracked the problem done to the LVI. I used > the > MC34064 instead of the DS1233 because I had some laying around. WARNING the > pin 32,33c31 > = > 38,41c36,37 > = > The MC34064 can be used but it must be rotated 120 degrees so that the = signals > > The MC34064 can be used but it must be rotated 120 degrees so that the signals 46,49c42,43 > = > Can anybody tell me the pins config in the MC34064, because I am using = the > > Can anybody tell me the pins config in the MC34064, because I am using the 51,52c45 > = > 54,55c47 > = > 57,58c49 > = > 60c51 > " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" > " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 71d61
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6223 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 35 Lines: 34 32,33c33 > Can anybody tell me the pins config in the MC34064, because I am using = the > Can anybody tell me the pins config in the MC34064, because I am using the 41c41 > " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" > " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´"
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6238 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 23 20c21 of=A0 "light servo" system for RC airplane of following web site. of "light servo" system for RC airplane of following web site. 22c23 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 http://www.idnet.de/homepage/scholl/index.html http://www.idnet.de/homepage/scholl/index.html 25,27c26,28 =A0 =A0 =A0 32,40c33,38 > stepper motors and linear actuators.=A0 Basically, I was wondering if > anyone has any experience with very small high resolution actuators.=A0= I > am trying to find out if stepper motors on the order of 10 mm in diamet= er > with angular resolutions of milliradians exist.=A0 No gear trains would= be > perferable as any backlash is a big problem.=A0 What is the smallest > angular resolution that people have seen?=A0 I am also looking for very > stepper motors and linear actuators. Basically, I was wondering if > anyone has any experience with very small high resolution actuators. I > am trying to find out if stepper motors on the order of 10 mm in diameter > with angular resolutions of milliradians exist. No gear trains would be > perferable as any backlash is a big problem. What is the smallest > angular resolution that people have seen? I am also looking for very 42,43c40 > positioning.=A0 Cost is not really a factor.=A0 Thanks very much for yo= ur help. > positioning. Cost is not really a factor. Thanks very much for your help. 46,47d42
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6239 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 30c31 Daniel=20 Daniel 36c37 " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 38,39d38
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6242 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 18 Lines: 17 19,23c20,23 Beyond the handyboard I have little need for C and I'm not very good at = it. Is there any one book that would be of particular value for this = case? That is all I want to do is learn enough to program the = handyboard. I bought several books and they are so general that I find = them of little vale. Beyond the handyboard I have little need for C and I'm not very good at it. Is there any one book that would be of particular value for this case? That is all I want to do is learn enough to program the handyboard. I bought several books and they are so general that I find them of little vale.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6246 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 55 Lines: 54 20,22c21,23 Besides other general C books, you can consult Interactive-C User's = Guide from the following site. It gives you a clear explanation of basic = C issue in addition of programming Interactive-C on Handyboard system. Besides other general C books, you can consult Interactive-C User's Guide from the following site. It gives you a clear explanation of basic C issue in addition of programming Interactive-C on Handyboard system. 37c38 Low cost MIT Handyboard supplier and=20 Low cost MIT Handyboard supplier and 53,54c54,55 =20 =20 56,60c57,60 Beyond the handyboard I have little need for C and I'm not very good = at it. Is there any one book that would be of particular value for this = case? That is all I want to do is learn enough to program the = handyboard. I bought several books and they are so general that I find = them of little vale. Beyond the handyboard I have little need for C and I'm not very good at it. Is there any one book that would be of particular value for this case? That is all I want to do is learn enough to program the handyboard. I bought several books and they are so general that I find them of little vale.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6250 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 41 Lines: 37 21,24c22,23 guys remembering to put the HandyBoard in bootstrap Download mode and bur= n the Board with the "Config0c.s19" file? Let me know what you have tried t= o guys remembering to put the HandyBoard in bootstrap Download mode and burn the Board with the "Config0c.s19" file? Let me know what you have tried to 38,41c37,38 > I am in the downloading step on building a HandyBoard, I use the windo= ws > Handyboard download program, to download the pcode_hb.s19 file. All th= e > I am in the downloading step on building a HandyBoard, I use the windows > Handyboard download program, to download the pcode_hb.s19 file. All the 57c54 > " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" > " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 60,61d56
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6258 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 33,36c34,35 =A0 =A0
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6259 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24c25 I=B4m using the HB-Board too - and it makes a lot of fun ! I´m using the HB-Board too - and it makes a lot of fun ! 48,51d48
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6263 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 21,22c22 Does anybody know about a electronic or robotic store at L.A. (Los= Angeles).? =20 Does anybody know about a electronic or robotic store at L.A. (Los Angeles).? 28c28 Daniel=20 Daniel 34c34 " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 36,37d35
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6267 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 21,22c22 Does anybody know about a electronic or robotic store at L.A. (Los= Angeles).? =20 Does anybody know about a electronic or robotic store at L.A. (Los Angeles).? 28c28 Daniel=20 Daniel 34c34 " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 36,37d35
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6290 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 21,23c22,23 Because I=B4m having trouble find the Memory, and I got a other memory but= it doesn=B4t work (I think). Because I´m having trouble find the Memory, and I got a other memory but it doesn´t work (I think). 34c34 " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 36,37d35
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6291 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 33c34 " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 35,36d35
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6294 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 33 Lines: 31 19,20c20 It depends on what platform you are using. C++ does not provide a standar= d It depends on what platform you are using. C++ does not provide a standard 33,34c33 > Does anybody know how what function(C++) should i use to read and input= or > Does anybody know how what function(C++) should i use to read and input or 48c47 > " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" > " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 52,53d50
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6301 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 21,22c22 I found the 62256LP-70, but i=B4m not sure if it=B4s goning to work. = Because I found the 62256LP-70, but i´m not sure if it´s goning to work. Because 26c26 charge could go up to $25. I=B4m going to try first to find a substitute or charge could go up to $25. I´m going to try first to find a substitute or 36c36 " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 38,39d37
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6317 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 69 Lines: 62 21,22c22 www.hooked.net/~jfong/public/Computers/fingerboard/schematics/fb_interfac= e.p www.hooked.net/~jfong/public/Computers/fingerboard/schematics/fb_interface.p 35c35 Jos=E9 José 55,56c55 > in the HB, then you also have the pcode downloaded. At the IC prompt ty= pe > in the HB, then you also have the pcode downloaded. At the IC prompt type 59,60c58 > > Also i am looking for a way to use 2 or 3 electret mics to mak= e > > Also i am looking for a way to use 2 or 3 electret mics to make 64,65c62 > >input, but I'm not sure about the circuit to be used. Has someone trie= d > >input, but I'm not sure about the circuit to be used. Has someone tried 71,72c68 > building manual (A.I. Lab memo #1230)and the paper on squirt (memo #112= 0). > building manual (A.I. Lab memo #1230)and the paper on squirt (memo #1120). 77,78c73 http://www.hooked.net/~jfong/public/Computers/fingerboard/schematics/fb_i= nte http://www.hooked.net/~jfong/public/Computers/fingerboard/schematics/fb_inte 83,84c78 > considering programming a PIC to do the timing and then just (serially?= ) > considering programming a PIC to do the timing and then just (serially?) 88,90d81
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6334 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 I am in urgent need to learn how to modify the Handy = Board to support 3 stepper motors (without the Expansion Board). I have absolutely no clues as to how this can be done so I would = I am in urgent need to learn how to modify the Handy Board to support 3 stepper motors (without the Expansion Board). I have absolutely no clues as to how this can be done so I would 24,25c25,26 this before, or has any suggestion on how this can be done. Thank you = and regards. this before, or has any suggestion on how this can be done. Thank you and regards.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6342 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 26 Lines: 22 20,26c21,24 "Microsoft IntelliEye technology employs a tiny chip with a sensor an= d digital signal processor (DSP). The sensor=92s glowing red light captures =93snapshots=94 of the work surface at a rate of 1,500 images per second.= The DSP translates changes between the images into on-screen pointer movement= s. "Microsoft IntelliEye technology employs a tiny chip with a sensor and digital signal processor (DSP). The sensor’s glowing red light captures “snapshots” of the work surface at a rate of 1,500 images per second. The DSP translates changes between the images into on-screen pointer movements. 36,37c34 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ==================================== 44,47d40
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6349 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 24 Lines: 23 23,24c24 And it didn=B4t work on the Handy board, but download program on the PC,= said And it didn´t work on the Handy board, but download program on the PC, said 28c28 Please Help me !! I don=B4t know what to do now? Please Help me !! I don´t know what to do now? 41c41 " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 43,44d42
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6386 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 21,22c22 Because I use and it doen=B4t work, I=B4m starting to think, that it may be= a Because I use and it doen´t work, I´m starting to think, that it may be a 32c32 " `BETTER=B4 IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH=B4" " `BETTER´ IS THE ENEMY OF `GOOD ENOUGH´" 34,35d33
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6412 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 20,33c21,33 I have a question on the operation of the Handy Board motor = outputs which i do not understand. As deduced from the schematic = diagram, I believe that the HC374 chip clock input is connected to a Y6 = terminal. This Y6 terminal is one of the outputs of a 74'138 decoder = which will trigger when a value is poked to the address 0x0e. Based on = the diagram, I would expect Y6 to be active only when A15 is low while = A14, A13 and A12 are high, but this doesn't correspond to the address = 0x0e right? Am I wrong in interpreting A15 as the most significant bit? = Also, is the 0e (in hex) unique in IC only? I can't seem to figure why = is there a preceding 0. Also, I am currently modifying the Handy Board to support = more motor outputs and is intending to tap Y0 terminal to a HC574 chip = (clock input) on the new board. What address should i poke to? Sorry, = sounds trivial but didnt manage to find any answers on the web. I have a question on the operation of the Handy Board motor outputs which i do not understand. As deduced from the schematic diagram, I believe that the HC374 chip clock input is connected to a Y6 terminal. This Y6 terminal is one of the outputs of a 74'138 decoder which will trigger when a value is poked to the address 0x0e. Based on the diagram, I would expect Y6 to be active only when A15 is low while A14, A13 and A12 are high, but this doesn't correspond to the address 0x0e right? Am I wrong in interpreting A15 as the most significant bit? Also, is the 0e (in hex) unique in IC only? I can't seem to figure why is there a preceding 0. Also, I am currently modifying the Handy Board to support more motor outputs and is intending to tap Y0 terminal to a HC574 chip (clock input) on the new board. What address should i poke to? Sorry, sounds trivial but didnt manage to find any answers on the web.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6414 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 13 Lines: 11 20,23c21,22 Has someone tried to connect a LM35 temperature sensor to an analog input= in the HB, I have had no luck with it, I have plugged it directly to the inp= ut Has someone tried to connect a LM35 temperature sensor to an analog input in the HB, I have had no luck with it, I have plugged it directly to the input 30,33c29 Jos=E9 Luis José Luis
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6433 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 59 Lines: 55 20,27c21,27 I have a couple of LM335 that I have tried to use with the miniboard. The= numbers I get when converted to Fahrenheit, do not accurately represent the= room temperature. The docs mention using a 10K pot to calibrate the sensor.= I have not yet tried this, but it is my next step. The Robot Bonanza book= has a couple of circuits that use this sensor. I have not tried either= circuit from the book. I do have a handyboard, but I have not tried the= sensor with it, but the results should be that same with either board. They= both use the 47K pull up resistor. I have a couple of LM335 that I have tried to use with the miniboard. The numbers I get when converted to Fahrenheit, do not accurately represent the room temperature. The docs mention using a 10K pot to calibrate the sensor. I have not yet tried this, but it is my next step. The Robot Bonanza book has a couple of circuits that use this sensor. I have not tried either circuit from the book. I do have a handyboard, but I have not tried the sensor with it, but the results should be that same with either board. They both use the 47K pull up resistor. 38,39c38 >Has someone tried to connect a LM35 temperature sensor to an analog input= in >Has someone tried to connect a LM35 temperature sensor to an analog input in 55c54 > Jos=E9 Luis > José Luis 67c66 Student Affairs=20 Student Affairs 72,73c71 Georgia</bigger></bigger></color></bold><bigger><bigger><italic><color><para= m>8080,8080,0000</param>Institute Georgia</bigger></bigger></color></bold><bigger><bigger><italic><color><param>8080,8080,0000</param>Institute 75,76c73 of</color></italic><bold><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param>Tech</color></b= old><italic><color><param>8080,8080,0000</param>nology of</color></italic><bold><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param>Tech</color></bold><italic><color><param>8080,8080,0000</param>nology 79,81d75
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6435 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 41,45c42,46 >> From:=09Patrick Tuttle [SMTP:tuttle@ms.com] >> Sent:=09Monday, June 28, 1999 8:39 PM >> To:=09Sean Verret >> Cc:=09handyboard@media.mit.edu >> Subject:=09Re: Moving Straight >> From: Patrick Tuttle [SMTP:tuttle@ms.com] >> Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 8:39 PM >> To: Sean Verret >> Cc: handyboard@media.mit.edu >> Subject: Re: Moving Straight 86,87c87 >------_=3D_NextPart_001_01BEC23F.B8829DD0 >------_=_NextPart_001_01BEC23F.B8829DD0
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6530 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 I would like to ask if is possible to interface the handyboard with = the basic stamp2 using not the RS232. I would like to ask if is possible to interface the handyboard with the basic stamp2 using not the RS232.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6578 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 10 Lines: 9 19,20c20 backed ram) in place of standard ram (no need external battery) and witho= ut backed ram) in place of standard ram (no need external battery) and without 23c23 I=B4m just listening oferts. I´m just listening oferts. 27,29c27 Germ=E1n Gentile. Germán Gentile.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6589 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26c27 paovserv inst ;pulse accumulator overflow service=20 paovserv inst ;pulse accumulator overflow service
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6590 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26c27 paovserv inst ;pulse accumulator overflow service=20 paovserv inst ;pulse accumulator overflow service
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6613 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 25 Lines: 23 23,24c24 I am looking for a supplier, best if on-line, to buy some = microcontroller I am looking for a supplier, best if on-line, to buy some microcontroller 29,30c29 I alredy try to Digikey - Mouser - Jameco - JDR - Maplin but they do not = have I alredy try to Digikey - Mouser - Jameco - JDR - Maplin but they do not have
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6627 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,19c19,20 Anybody have code in Visual Basic to interface with Handy Board to = run the motors and to receive=20 Anybody have code in Visual Basic to interface with Handy Board to run the motors and to receive
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6631 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 please make me memberof the list=20 please make me memberof the list
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6635 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 28 Lines: 27 20,21c21,22 After some testing and try-ing I found the following solution for a = cheap shaft encoder for LEGO use: After some testing and try-ing I found the following solution for a cheap shaft encoder for LEGO use: 23,28c24,28 I glued a cheap Infrared Reflectance Sensor to the middle of the bottom = of a 2x3 tile (so the sensor faces downwards) and put two 1x2 tiles on = either side next to it. Then I used TipEx (white typewriter flued) to = accentuate the 4 sides of a LEGO axle. Positioned the sensor above the = axle by clicking it on top of the bar through which the axle went and = presto. I glued a cheap Infrared Reflectance Sensor to the middle of the bottom of a 2x3 tile (so the sensor faces downwards) and put two 1x2 tiles on either side next to it. Then I used TipEx (white typewriter flued) to accentuate the 4 sides of a LEGO axle. Positioned the sensor above the axle by clicking it on top of the bar through which the axle went and presto. 30,33c30,33 Using the standard IC drivers everything worked without having to adjust = the thresholds... Since the resolution is far from perfect I have put a = gear (1:3) between the driving axle and the sensor axle to get 12 ticks = per wheel revolution. Using the standard IC drivers everything worked without having to adjust the thresholds... Since the resolution is far from perfect I have put a gear (1:3) between the driving axle and the sensor axle to get 12 ticks per wheel revolution. 35c35 Happy HandyBoarding Lego-ers!=20 Happy HandyBoarding Lego-ers!
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6666 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 24 Lines: 22 19,20c20 seems OK, but ports 24 to 27 (I have not tested the lego ports yet) give = me seems OK, but ports 24 to 27 (I have not tested the lego ports yet) give me 31,32c31 and i have a static reading of 252 for port 20, and for the port 24 I hav= e a and i have a static reading of 252 for port 20, and for the port 24 I have a 41,45c40 Jos=E9 Luis José Luis
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6667 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 37 Lines: 35 20c21 Hello Jos=E9 Luis, Hello José Luis, 34c35 >=20 > 36,37c37 > seems OK, but ports 24 to 27 (I have not tested the lego ports yet) giv= e me > seems OK, but ports 24 to 27 (I have not tested the lego ports yet) give me 39c39 >=20 > 47,49c47,48 >=20 > and i have a static reading of 252 for port 20, and for the port 24 I h= ave a > > and i have a static reading of 252 for port 20, and for the port 24 I have a 51c50 >=20 > 53c52 >=20 > 55,57c54,55 >=20 > Jos=E9 Luis > > José Luis
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6669 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 95 Lines: 89 20c21 Hello Jos=E9 Luis, Hello José Luis, 31c32 >=20 > 33c34 >=20 > 36,39c37,38 > sensor, is supposed that it must work on the Exp-Board analogs, but I h= ave > not luck yet , I have the same results that in the HB analogs. Thank Yo= u > sensor, is supposed that it must work on the Exp-Board analogs, but I have > not luck yet , I have the same results that in the HB analogs. Thank You 41,43c40,42 >=20 > Jos=E9 Luis >=20 > > José Luis > 50,51c49,50 >=20 > > Hi Jos=E9 Luis, > > > Hi José Luis, 73c72 > > > Hello Jos=E9 Luis, > > > Hello José Luis, 79,80c78 > > > exp-board. I next tried it on my HB and exp-board that arrived jus= t > > > exp-board. I next tried it on my HB and exp-board that arrived just 89,90c87 > > > > I am having some problems reading Exp-Board analog port, ports 16= to > > > > I am having some problems reading Exp-Board analog port, ports 16 to 92,93c89 > > > > seems OK, but ports 24 to 27 (I have not tested the lego ports ye= t) > > > > seems OK, but ports 24 to 27 (I have not tested the lego ports yet) 105,106c101 > > > > and i have a static reading of 252 for port 20, and for the port = 24 I > > > > and i have a static reading of 252 for port 20, and for the port 24 I 114,115c109 > > > > Jos=E9 Luis > > > > José Luis
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6674 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 134 Lines: 116 20c21 Hi Jos=E9 Luis, Hi José Luis, 27c28 >=20 > 29,33c30,32 >=20 > At this moment I have no use for the lego inputs, so I will= no > longer load the explego.icb to avoid the problem. Thank You for all you= r > > At this moment I have no use for the lego inputs, so I will no > longer load the explego.icb to avoid the problem. Thank You for all your 35,37c34,36 >=20 > Jos=E9 Luis >=20 > > José Luis > 44,45c43,44 >=20 > > Hello Jos=E9 Luis, > > > Hello José Luis, 59,64c58,60 > > > Thank You for your help, I have unloaded the explego.icb and no mor= e > > > problems. Now I will continue to see if I can put at work the LM35 = temp > > > sensor, is supposed that it must work on the Exp-Board analogs, but= I > > > Thank You for your help, I have unloaded the explego.icb and no more > > > problems. Now I will continue to see if I can put at work the LM35 temp > > > sensor, is supposed that it must work on the Exp-Board analogs, but I 66,67c62 > > > not luck yet , I have the same results that in the HB analogs. Than= k You > > > not luck yet , I have the same results that in the HB analogs. Thank You 70c65 > > > Jos=E9 Luis > > > José Luis 79c74 > > > > Hi Jos=E9 Luis, > > > > Hi José Luis, 83,84c78 > > > > Analogs 24-27 have a 1ms pulse at 250Hz which is a feedthrough fr= om > > > > Analogs 24-27 have a 1ms pulse at 250Hz which is a feedthrough from 102c96 > > > > > Hello Jos=E9 Luis, > > > > > Hello José Luis, 104,117c98,104 > > > > > I tried your test code and had the same results. Next I connec= ted > > > > > the analog ports to the wiper of a 10k pot going from ground to= +5V. > > > > > The readings were stable on ports 16-23, but 24-27 jumped betwe= en > > > > > the appropriate reading and 255. This was done on an older HB = and > > > > > exp-board. I next tried it on my HB and exp-board that arrived= just > > > > > today from Gleason Research and had exactly the same results. = At > > > > > this point I haven't done any further testing ... but will in t= he > > > > > I tried your test code and had the same results. Next I connected > > > > > the analog ports to the wiper of a 10k pot going from ground to +5V. > > > > > The readings were stable on ports 16-23, but 24-27 jumped between > > > > > the appropriate reading and 255. This was done on an older HB and > > > > > exp-board. I next tried it on my HB and exp-board that arrived just > > > > > today from Gleason Research and had exactly the same results. At > > > > > this point I haven't done any further testing ... but will in the 124,125c111 > > > > > > I am having some problems reading Exp-Board analog port, port= s 16 > > > > > > I am having some problems reading Exp-Board analog port, ports 16 128,129c114 > > > > > > seems OK, but ports 24 to 27 (I have not tested the lego port= s > > > > > > seems OK, but ports 24 to 27 (I have not tested the lego ports 132,133c117 > > > > > > variable readings, to make a probe i have used this simple co= de: > > > > > > variable readings, to make a probe i have used this simple code: 143,144c127 > > > > > > and i have a static reading of 252 for port 20, and for the p= ort > > > > > > and i have a static reading of 252 for port 20, and for the port 153,154c136 > > > > > > Jos=E9 Luis > > > > > > José Luis
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6704 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 20,21c21 I maily wanted it for building a cheap, viable Linux platform = without I maily wanted it for building a cheap, viable Linux platform without 28,30c28,30 Check out the Embedded PC section and the classified ads in the back of = Circuit Cellar magazine. There are probably a dozen PC/104 and other = x86 boards available at various prices. Check out the Embedded PC section and the classified ads in the back of Circuit Cellar magazine. There are probably a dozen PC/104 and other x86 boards available at various prices. 35,36d34
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6768 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 20,22c21,22 I am looking for an industrial robot built for education purposes. I = know that some place there is a company building them but I lost their = address. I am looking for an industrial robot built for education purposes. I know that some place there is a company building them but I lost their address. 25c25 E-mail bahia@mandic.com.br=20 E-mail bahia@mandic.com.br
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6791 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 31 Lines: 30 20,21c21,22 before I reinvent the wheelI haven't actually done this, but I'm pretty = sure the theory is ok... before I reinvent the wheelI haven't actually done this, but I'm pretty sure the theory is ok... 23,28c24,28 On the handyboard web page is the pa79600 icb file which lets you use = port a bit 7 as serial i/o. I have successfully used this to control = some minissc's. I think that if you wired a cable between the hp and the = Hb (heh heh) you should be able to write some code to display a = character sent. In fact I think a few hp pages have a basic serial = program on them which you may be able to use... On the handyboard web page is the pa79600 icb file which lets you use port a bit 7 as serial i/o. I have successfully used this to control some minissc's. I think that if you wired a cable between the hp and the Hb (heh heh) you should be able to write some code to display a character sent. In fact I think a few hp pages have a basic serial program on them which you may be able to use... 33,35c33,35 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dito, Paul=20 To: 'handyboard@media.mit.edu'=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dito, Paul To: 'handyboard@media.mit.edu' 40c40 Has anyone used their HP48 to talk to a handyboard?=20 Has anyone used their HP48 to talk to a handyboard?
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6847 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 21,23c22,23 I have problem in getting NPN darlington ZTX614 in market.Suggest me = some other Darlington pair with the equivalent characteristics of the = above. I have problem in getting NPN darlington ZTX614 in market.Suggest me some other Darlington pair with the equivalent characteristics of the above. 25,26c25,26 Please give me the full details and kindly donot give any mailorder = site's address. Please give me the full details and kindly donot give any mailorder site's address.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6875 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 47 Lines: 44 23,25c24,25 I have fix up a pair of transceiver namely "A" and "B" (with TM1V and = RM1V) as guided in "How Encoders and Decoders work" using HT-680 and = HT-694. I have fix up a pair of transceiver namely "A" and "B" (with TM1V and RM1V) as guided in "How Encoders and Decoders work" using HT-680 and HT-694. 27c27 Transceiver "A" is connected to my host computer and transceiver "B" is = Transceiver "A" is connected to my host computer and transceiver "B" is 30,49c30,47 Each transceiver has their common ground and +V5. These transceivers = work well in half-duplex mode. I fixed a LED to the VT port of HT-694 = and the LED light-up whenever valid data is being received. =20 But I can't operate these transceiver in full duplex mode. Whenever the = transceiver "A" is busy receiving data, it just can't transmit out any = signal. When the receiving LED "A" (VT) is light-up, and when I tried = to pull the TE of the transmitter "A" to ON (+5V sharing power source = for both TM1V and RM1V), the receiving LED turn off and the other = transceiver "B" didn't receiving any signal as the led "B" didn't = light-up. I tried to solve this problem to have two antennas for transmitter and = receiver but end up with the same result. I tried to separate the +5V power source for the transmitter and = receiver but this doesn't solve my problem. It is not possible for me = to separate the common ground (if this is the solution) as I need to = connect all of the signal to one parallel port from my host computer = with one common ground. Each transceiver has their common ground and +V5. These transceivers work well in half-duplex mode. I fixed a LED to the VT port of HT-694 and the LED light-up whenever valid data is being received. But I can't operate these transceiver in full duplex mode. Whenever the transceiver "A" is busy receiving data, it just can't transmit out any signal. When the receiving LED "A" (VT) is light-up, and when I tried to pull the TE of the transmitter "A" to ON (+5V sharing power source for both TM1V and RM1V), the receiving LED turn off and the other transceiver "B" didn't receiving any signal as the led "B" didn't light-up. I tried to solve this problem to have two antennas for transmitter and receiver but end up with the same result. I tried to separate the +5V power source for the transmitter and receiver but this doesn't solve my problem. It is not possible for me to separate the common ground (if this is the solution) as I need to connect all of the signal to one parallel port from my host computer with one common ground.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6893 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 24 Lines: 23 19c20 Thanks Fred. That got me going in the right direction. But...... =20 Thanks Fred. That got me going in the right direction. But...... 21,27c22,27 When I poke a value into $7000 I can see the corresponding input pin on = the l293 react. But it will not stay in the position that I set it to. = It will return back to the initial state within a msec. It looks like = the PWM routines are reseting the pins to whatever values they want. Is = there a way to disable the PWM routines short of modifying pcode. I'm = hoping that some clever person left a software switch in to do just = that. =20 When I poke a value into $7000 I can see the corresponding input pin on the l293 react. But it will not stay in the position that I set it to. It will return back to the initial state within a msec. It looks like the PWM routines are reseting the pins to whatever values they want. Is there a way to disable the PWM routines short of modifying pcode. I'm hoping that some clever person left a software switch in to do just that.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6907 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 I think you can try to transmit the data through radio frequency = transmitter to the receiver which is connected to the PC. I have tried = this but it is digital data and not analog. I think you can try to transmit the data through radio frequency transmitter to the receiver which is connected to the PC. I have tried this but it is digital data and not analog. 27,29c28,30 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chul Hun,Han=20 To: handyboard@media.mit.edu=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Chul Hun,Han To: handyboard@media.mit.edu 36,37c37,38 Has anyone idea about the method of continuous=20 data acquisition and store through analog input of=20 Has anyone idea about the method of continuous data acquisition and store through analog input of
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6911 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,22c20,23 What text editors do you guys use to write your IC code? I am on a = Windows98 machine and having a real hard time finding one that doesn't = add all of the extra formatting. Or is there an option that I am = missing that I can turn the formatting off? What text editors do you guys use to write your IC code? I am on a Windows98 machine and having a real hard time finding one that doesn't add all of the extra formatting. Or is there an option that I am missing that I can turn the formatting off?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6934 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,23c20,24 I learned that somebody has successfully connected GARMIN GPS to HB. If = I am not wrong , this GPS is not be able to receive any signal in = building. If this the case, GPS is only good for outdoor robotics. = Another thing is about the accuracy of the GPS, it is about 1 to 15 feet = which I think is not good for detail mapping. I learned that somebody has successfully connected GARMIN GPS to HB. If I am not wrong , this GPS is not be able to receive any signal in building. If this the case, GPS is only good for outdoor robotics. Another thing is about the accuracy of the GPS, it is about 1 to 15 feet which I think is not good for detail mapping.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6994 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 37c38 connected.=20 connected. 45d45
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:6999 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 15 Lines: 14 25,26c26 >Sounds like you have two problems, with the LCD being a separate one = from >Sounds like you have two problems, with the LCD being a separate one from 35d34
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7045 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23,24c24,25 I just upgraded the IC 2.81 to 3.2 version and now I can't anymore = download the needed C libs. I just upgraded the IC 2.81 to 3.2 version and now I can't anymore download the needed C libs. 26,31c27,32 The pcode (version 3.1) will download nicely but when the IC will try to = download the lib files it will stop everytime in the same position. The = lib_hb.c, lib_hb.icb and libexpbd.icb will load but expsens.c will give = a message "Board synchronization error: sent 98, received 12". I do have = the I/O-expansion board attached. With IC 2.81 version all the files = would be downloaded and the HB is working properly. The pcode (version 3.1) will download nicely but when the IC will try to download the lib files it will stop everytime in the same position. The lib_hb.c, lib_hb.icb and libexpbd.icb will load but expsens.c will give a message "Board synchronization error: sent 98, received 12". I do have the I/O-expansion board attached. With IC 2.81 version all the files would be downloaded and the HB is working properly. 33,34c34,35 Does anyone have some idea how to proceed to solve this problem? (I have = sent the error description to newtonlabs but they haven't answered yet). Does anyone have some idea how to proceed to solve this problem? (I have sent the error description to newtonlabs but they haven't answered yet). 36c37 --=20 -- 38d38
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7124 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 20,26c21,26 I hav already connected a hc374 to Y0 of the expansion bus to get 8 = digital outs, It works gr8. I need anouther 32 outputs which meens I = need 4 more latch selects. Can I use Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4, and Y5 if needed? = Y0 is used by poke(0x4000, Data) , what address do I poke for Y1 through = Y5. I have already searched through the mail archive and could not find = much. I dont need the motor drivers on this board which leaves Y6 spare = as well. I hav already connected a hc374 to Y0 of the expansion bus to get 8 digital outs, It works gr8. I need anouther 32 outputs which meens I need 4 more latch selects. Can I use Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4, and Y5 if needed? Y0 is used by poke(0x4000, Data) , what address do I poke for Y1 through Y5. I have already searched through the mail archive and could not find much. I dont need the motor drivers on this board which leaves Y6 spare as well.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7132 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 26 19c20 In a message dated 11/25/1999 3:52:34 AM Central Standard Time,=20 In a message dated 11/25/1999 3:52:34 AM Central Standard Time, 23,24c24,25 > whichever receiver gets the signal first, that=92s where > the owner is and where we want to turn to.=20 > whichever receiver gets the signal first, that’s where > the owner is and where we want to turn to. 28,32c29,33 You will not get your program to outrun light. The rf signal is moving=20 at 300,000,000 m/s. If you divide the space between your antennas by=20 300,000,000 you will get the time difference for the rf arrival time. I=20 believe you will find that time to be much smaller than a single machine=20 cycle. You might be able to use this trick with a sound wave and assembler=20 You will not get your program to outrun light. The rf signal is moving at 300,000,000 m/s. If you divide the space between your antennas by 300,000,000 you will get the time difference for the rf arrival time. I believe you will find that time to be much smaller than a single machine cycle. You might be able to use this trick with a sound wave and assembler 34,42c35,41 If you want to find a radio source, I recommend "Transmitter Hunting"=20 published by the ARRL. They might have it in your local library; they are=20 most likely to have The ARRL Handbook which will have a section on=20 directional antennas. You could probably build a "Loop with sense" type=20 antenna that you would mount on a turning servo. You sample the signal=20 strength at different directions and pick the strongest (weakest depending o= n=20 the antenna). Finding the "Null" direction usually gives a sharper position= =20 If you want to find a radio source, I recommend "Transmitter Hunting" published by the ARRL. They might have it in your local library; they are most likely to have The ARRL Handbook which will have a section on directional antennas. You could probably build a "Loop with sense" type antenna that you would mount on a turning servo. You sample the signal strength at different directions and pick the strongest (weakest depending on the antenna). Finding the "Null" direction usually gives a sharper position 47d45
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7142 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 20,26c21,26 I hav already connected a hc374 to Y0 of the expansion bus to get 8 = digital outs, It works gr8. I need anouther 32 outputs which meens I = need 4 more latch selects. Can I use Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4, and Y5 if needed? = Y0 is used by poke(0x4000, Data) , what address do I poke for Y1 through = Y5. I have already searched through the mail archive and could not find = much. I dont need the motor drivers on this board which leaves Y6 spare = as well. I hav already connected a hc374 to Y0 of the expansion bus to get 8 digital outs, It works gr8. I need anouther 32 outputs which meens I need 4 more latch selects. Can I use Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4, and Y5 if needed? Y0 is used by poke(0x4000, Data) , what address do I poke for Y1 through Y5. I have already searched through the mail archive and could not find much. I dont need the motor drivers on this board which leaves Y6 spare as well.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7181 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 40 Lines: 37 23,57c24,55 I bought my first handyboard in mid October and a Rug Warrior Pro in = early November. And since I have had this peculiar download problem with = the IC 3.2, pcode will download without any problems but everytime after = downloading the lib files, IC will report a sync error. What makes it so = odd is that I can download everything with the 2.81 version. I'm using a = Win98 Toshiba Portege 7010 laptop as a host computer. I have reported this to the IC Technical Support and they have replied = that it's not the problem with the IC 3.2 rather with the laptop and I = should use some other computer. I tested the IC 3.2 in high speed NT workstation and it really worked = there. No sync errors. (But I can't use this computer for my hobbies, = and for mobile robots laptop is anyway the only proper host = environment). OK. I agree there are some differences between the Toshiba and NT = workstation serial ports (although all the settable parameters had the = same values). But my point is that how can then the IC 2.81 operate in = the Toshiba laptop without any sync errors? Also, I haven't had any = problems using for example external modem, Psion and Palm sync programs = trough the same serial port. And finally, I received few days ago the = BasicX-24 development kit and it works also very smoothly, no serial = problems whatsoever (and it's fast). So it seems that all other programs but IC can tolerate the minor = differences with serial communication in different computers. But what I'm really complaining is that there has been now 10 days since = I send my last message to the Technical Support, and described the = latest situation, but they haven't replied anything sofar. If the IC 3.2 = were a freeware, the situation would be understandable but I have paid = for the IC 3.2 and they ought to have better response times. I feel that = the price for IC 3.2 is way too high, for that amount of money you = should get a better quality program. I bought my first handyboard in mid October and a Rug Warrior Pro in early November. And since I have had this peculiar download problem with the IC 3.2, pcode will download without any problems but everytime after downloading the lib files, IC will report a sync error. What makes it so odd is that I can download everything with the 2.81 version. I'm using a Win98 Toshiba Portege 7010 laptop as a host computer. I have reported this to the IC Technical Support and they have replied that it's not the problem with the IC 3.2 rather with the laptop and I should use some other computer. I tested the IC 3.2 in high speed NT workstation and it really worked there. No sync errors. (But I can't use this computer for my hobbies, and for mobile robots laptop is anyway the only proper host environment). OK. I agree there are some differences between the Toshiba and NT workstation serial ports (although all the settable parameters had the same values). But my point is that how can then the IC 2.81 operate in the Toshiba laptop without any sync errors? Also, I haven't had any problems using for example external modem, Psion and Palm sync programs trough the same serial port. And finally, I received few days ago the BasicX-24 development kit and it works also very smoothly, no serial problems whatsoever (and it's fast). So it seems that all other programs but IC can tolerate the minor differences with serial communication in different computers. But what I'm really complaining is that there has been now 10 days since I send my last message to the Technical Support, and described the latest situation, but they haven't replied anything sofar. If the IC 3.2 were a freeware, the situation would be understandable but I have paid for the IC 3.2 and they ought to have better response times. I feel that the price for IC 3.2 is way too high, for that amount of money you should get a better quality program. 59c57 --=20 -- 61d58
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7197 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 9 Lines: 8 23,26c24,26 Trying to move to pages = http://el.www.media.mit.edu/projects/handy-board/ gives an "You are not = authorized to view this page" error message. Anybody, have some idea = what's going on? Trying to move to pages http://el.www.media.mit.edu/projects/handy-board/ gives an "You are not authorized to view this page" error message. Anybody, have some idea what's going on? 28c28 --=20 -- 30d29
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7203 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 24 Lines: 23 19,20c20,21 Im sorry if this is a stupid question....... no1 has answered..... or = does no1 know???? Im sorry if this is a stupid question....... no1 has answered..... or does no1 know???? 24,30c25,30 I hav already connected a hc374 to Y0 of the expansion bus to get 8 = digital outs, It works gr8. I need anouther 32 outputs which meens I = need 4 more latch selects. Can I use Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4, and Y5 if needed? = Y0 is used by poke(0x4000, Data) , what address do I poke for Y1 through = Y5. I have already searched through the mail archive and could not find = much. I dont need the motor drivers on this board which leaves Y6 spare = as well. I hav already connected a hc374 to Y0 of the expansion bus to get 8 digital outs, It works gr8. I need anouther 32 outputs which meens I need 4 more latch selects. Can I use Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4, and Y5 if needed? Y0 is used by poke(0x4000, Data) , what address do I poke for Y1 through Y5. I have already searched through the mail archive and could not find much. I dont need the motor drivers on this board which leaves Y6 spare as well.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7241 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18,19c19,20 I have installed the memory and am on the test where i try to download a = program and start up the handy board..... (have it calculate 1+2;) I have installed the memory and am on the test where i try to download a program and start up the handy board..... (have it calculate 1+2;) 21,22c22,23 The pcode and everything install properly but when i cycle the power, i = get nothing, no beep, and the LCD is just lit up on the top row. =20 The pcode and everything install properly but when i cycle the power, i get nothing, no beep, and the LCD is just lit up on the top row. 24,25c25,26 I checked that voltage is staying on memory, even when board is off. = what can i do? it appears there is a memory problem I checked that voltage is staying on memory, even when board is off. what can i do? it appears there is a memory problem 29c30 =BA=BA L=D8G=CEX =BA=BA ºº LØGÎX ºº 31d31
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7242 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 39,40d39
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7259 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 49 Lines: 40 26c27 --=20 -- 40,43c41,43 >=20 > I have exactly the same problem than he did, do you know what can I d= o??? >=20 > > I have exactly the same problem than he did, do you know what can I do??? > 45c45 >=20 > 48,66c48,58 >=20 > Jeff Keyzer escribi=F3: >=20 > > I successfully downloaded hbdl (thanks for fixing it, Fred!) an= d ran > > into some problems when trying to use it. When I try to download a fil= e to > > the board, as soon as I click "yes" that the board is ready, the progra= m > > tells me that the board is in the wrong mode, or not receiving the data= =2E At > > the same instant, the handy board comes out of special bootstrap mode. = (The > > PWR LED turns on.) This leads me to belive that the timing of the prog= ram > > may be too slow. Fred Martin has mentioned that the E series HC11's ha= ve > > very strict timing on their download functions, and hbdl probably can't= keep > > Jeff Keyzer escribió: > > > I successfully downloaded hbdl (thanks for fixing it, Fred!) and ran > > into some problems when trying to use it. When I try to download a file to > > the board, as soon as I click "yes" that the board is ready, the program > > tells me that the board is in the wrong mode, or not receiving the data. At > > the same instant, the handy board comes out of special bootstrap mode. (The > > PWR LED turns on.) This leads me to belive that the timing of the program > > may be too slow. Fred Martin has mentioned that the E series HC11's have > > very strict timing on their download functions, and hbdl probably can't keep 68,69c60 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7296 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 70 Lines: 65 20c21 I have several sensor questions.=20 I have several sensor questions. 23,67c24,65 I would like to use my miniboard as an engine management system. At the= present time, I have a small 2 cycle engine from a weed wacker that I would= like to control. I would like to have the miniboard gather some information= about the atmospheric conditions and use that information to adjust the air= fuel mixture. I figured that I would start with what I thought would be the easiest,= sensing the temperature. I have played with a couple of devices (LM34,= LM335, and a NTC thermister). The thermister was the first device I found.= It works well, but it is not linear. Next I played with the LM335, with and= without adjusting it. This also works well, but I can't figure out how to= convert the output from the miniboard into a temperature. 1 C =3D 10Mv. I= then tried the LM34. There is no calibration pin and it uses farenheit.= 1F=3D10Mv. For some reason, the output from this device varies very little= with changes in the room temperature. Now the present room temperature is= 58F, during the summer it was 78F. The miniboard returned a value of 158= for both of these temperatures. If I use a voltmeter to measure the voltage= between ground and the signal pin it reads around 1V. Strange. Ideally, I= would like to use the LM34, but the LM335 seems to work much better. That= is it is more responsive. Does anyone have any tips on how to use anyone of= these devices with the Miniboard or the Handyboard? How to connect them and= how to calculate a temperature for the output? I am not wanting to remove= the pull-up resistor from the circuit, if that makes a difference. I am= also using ICC freeware to program the Miniboard and IC on the HandyBoard. I would also like the board to sense air pressure and humidity. I have read= about capacitors that will vary with humidity, but I have no idea how to= make them work with the Miniboard. Can anyone provide any tips on this. Lastly, I would like the miniboard to track the engine rpms. I have a few= ideas on how to do this, but I am not sure about any of them. I figured the= easiest way might be to use a reflectance sensor pointed at a nut on the= crankshaft. I would paint all but one side of the nut with black paint, and= glue a piece of a cd on the one unpainted side. Another idea is to use= something on the spark plug wire. I thought a hall effect sensor might= work, but I am not sure. Along the same line, I read an note in this months= Nuts & Volts about using an inductor on the spark plug wire and a chip to= convert the output to a voltage. I am sure I have over simplifed here. I= don't remember all of the specifics. Assuming I use one of the first two= methods, how long do I need to sample to port to get a reasonable number= for the rpms? Does anyone have any suggestions on the method that would be= best to use? I would like to use my miniboard as an engine management system. At the present time, I have a small 2 cycle engine from a weed wacker that I would like to control. I would like to have the miniboard gather some information about the atmospheric conditions and use that information to adjust the air fuel mixture. I figured that I would start with what I thought would be the easiest, sensing the temperature. I have played with a couple of devices (LM34, LM335, and a NTC thermister). The thermister was the first device I found. It works well, but it is not linear. Next I played with the LM335, with and without adjusting it. This also works well, but I can't figure out how to convert the output from the miniboard into a temperature. 1 C = 10Mv. I then tried the LM34. There is no calibration pin and it uses farenheit. 1F=10Mv. For some reason, the output from this device varies very little with changes in the room temperature. Now the present room temperature is 58F, during the summer it was 78F. The miniboard returned a value of 158 for both of these temperatures. If I use a voltmeter to measure the voltage between ground and the signal pin it reads around 1V. Strange. Ideally, I would like to use the LM34, but the LM335 seems to work much better. That is it is more responsive. Does anyone have any tips on how to use anyone of these devices with the Miniboard or the Handyboard? How to connect them and how to calculate a temperature for the output? I am not wanting to remove the pull-up resistor from the circuit, if that makes a difference. I am also using ICC freeware to program the Miniboard and IC on the HandyBoard. I would also like the board to sense air pressure and humidity. I have read about capacitors that will vary with humidity, but I have no idea how to make them work with the Miniboard. Can anyone provide any tips on this. Lastly, I would like the miniboard to track the engine rpms. I have a few ideas on how to do this, but I am not sure about any of them. I figured the easiest way might be to use a reflectance sensor pointed at a nut on the crankshaft. I would paint all but one side of the nut with black paint, and glue a piece of a cd on the one unpainted side. Another idea is to use something on the spark plug wire. I thought a hall effect sensor might work, but I am not sure. Along the same line, I read an note in this months Nuts & Volts about using an inductor on the spark plug wire and a chip to convert the output to a voltage. I am sure I have over simplifed here. I don't remember all of the specifics. Assuming I use one of the first two methods, how long do I need to sample to port to get a reasonable number for the rpms? 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lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7301 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,23c21,24 I've heard mention of the various Sharp IR sensors which can give = different distance readings for different zones. Part of my final year = project is to design and investigate various sensors, but I really have = to generate the stuff myself rather than use ready-made components. I've heard mention of the various Sharp IR sensors which can give different distance readings for different zones. Part of my final year project is to design and investigate various sensors, but I really have to generate the stuff myself rather than use ready-made components. 25,27c26,28 Could anyone out there give me an idea or starting point on how these = devices work? Or how I might go about building something similar, even = if it isnt to the same scale or accuracy. Could anyone out there give me an idea or starting point on how these devices work? Or how I might go about building something similar, even if it isnt to the same scale or accuracy.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7302 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 >I have several sensor questions.=20 >I have several sensor questions. 26,29c27,30 > I would also like the board to sense air pressure and humidity. I have = read about capacitors that will vary with humidity,=20 > but I have no idea how to make them work with the Miniboard. Can anyone= provide any tips on this. > I would also like the board to sense air pressure and humidity. I have read > about capacitors that will vary with humidity, > but I have no idea how to make them work with the Miniboard. Can anyone > provide any tips on this. 34c35 some sort of barometric chip and a humidity "device".=20 some sort of barometric chip and a humidity "device". 46,48d46
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7333 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 22 Lines: 21 20,28c21,28 Since photo reflector with segmented wheel pattern doesn't help in = precise mobile robot navigation, I intend to use Hewlett Packard optical = encoder and I have selected HEDS-9140 series.I know someone has tried = this item long time ago and I hope I can get help from those has = successfully connected to Handyboard. I am not so sure if I need the HP = HCTL-20XX quadrature decoder/counter interface for this purpose? Can I = use the same encoder icb files that provided in IC ? How about the = circuit diagram (if required) for the IC and encoder ? Answers to all = these questions will help me a lot! Please help. Since photo reflector with segmented wheel pattern doesn't help in precise mobile robot navigation, I intend to use Hewlett Packard optical encoder and I have selected HEDS-9140 series.I know someone has tried this item long time ago and I hope I can get help from those has successfully connected to Handyboard. I am not so sure if I need the HP HCTL-20XX quadrature decoder/counter interface for this purpose? Can I use the same encoder icb files that provided in IC ? How about the circuit diagram (if required) for the IC and encoder ? Answers to all these questions will help me a lot! Please help.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7340 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 Does anyone know how to connect HP optical encoder to HP quadrature IC = and Handyboard? Does anyone know how to connect HP optical encoder to HP quadrature IC and Handyboard?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7346 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 non-polarized cap will do just fine.=20 non-polarized cap will do just fine. 45c46 >>sequences.=20 >>sequences. 48c49 >>the installing a 0.1 =B5F capacitor in the C7 position? >>the installing a 0.1 µF capacitor in the C7 position? 55d55
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7361 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 36c37 Igor=20 Igor 38d38
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7401 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 Im after a program to convert a Wav sound file to Ascii to be able to = burn it to eprom.=20 Im after a program to convert a Wav sound file to Ascii to be able to burn it to eprom.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7418 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Hi, does anyone know how to interface the hewlett packard decoder IC to = Hi, does anyone know how to interface the hewlett packard decoder IC to
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7419 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25,27c26,28 R =3D 3.81 K C =3D 0.0068uF f =3D 1/(3.81k)(.0068uF) =3D 38.5981kHz R = 3.81 K C = 0.0068uF f = 1/(3.81k)(.0068uF) = 38.5981kHz 29c30 at least in theory.=20 at least in theory. 45,46c46,47 We are prone to judge success by the index of our salaries or=A0 the size of our automobile rather than by the quality of our=A0 We are prone to judge success by the index of our salaries or the size of our automobile rather than by the quality of our 49,50d49
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7422 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 20,23c21,23 Have purchased a new computer and cannot communicate with my handy = board. I remember some time back in the mail archives that some settings had to = be changed if the computer was too fast for IC but cannot find it now. Have purchased a new computer and cannot communicate with my handy board. I remember some time back in the mail archives that some settings had to be changed if the computer was too fast for IC but cannot find it now. 32,33c32,33 Also,at the IC prompt there is a delay of about .5 second from when I = type before text is displayed on the console. Also,at the IC prompt there is a delay of about .5 second from when I type before text is displayed on the console. 38c38 Terry Gathright =20 Terry Gathright
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7423 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 27,28c28,29 Only one com. port is listed here but I have another serial port = physically next to com1. Where do I go to enable this port or can I? Only one com. port is listed here but I have another serial port physically next to com1. Where do I go to enable this port or can I? 30,31c31,32 Anyhow, the connection is working fine now on com1. Problem solved. = Sorry to write before exploring further. Anyhow, the connection is working fine now on com1. Problem solved. Sorry to write before exploring further.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7429 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 26 21,25c22,24 Now and then I see people searching for LCD displays for the = HandyBoards. I just came across some at a local surplus store. I purchased extras, = and I'm will part with a few. These are new Vikay 2x16 lcd's, in a = sealed bag. Now and then I see people searching for LCD displays for the HandyBoards. I just came across some at a local surplus store. I purchased extras, and I'm will part with a few. These are new Vikay 2x16 lcd's, in a sealed bag. 33,34c32,33 please note... I'll be on vacation all of next week so don't be alarmed = if I don't respond right away. please note... I'll be on vacation all of next week so don't be alarmed if I don't respond right away.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7432 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 23 Lines: 21 19,23c20,23 Is it possible to slow down the speed of the serial interface on the = Handyboard? I have just gotten hold of a couple of RF transmit/receive = pairs, but they are only able to go up to about 1200 baud or so. I don't = intend using IC over the link, just a simple serial program to = send/receive small amounts of data.=20 Is it possible to slow down the speed of the serial interface on the Handyboard? I have just gotten hold of a couple of RF transmit/receive pairs, but they are only able to go up to about 1200 baud or so. I don't intend using IC over the link, just a simple serial program to send/receive small amounts of data. 25,28c25,27 Can this be done, and if so, how would I go about it? My assembly coding = is less than fantastic, so if anyone has any code etc they'd like to = share I would not complain :-) If not, any tips/suggestions would be = greatly appreciated. Can this be done, and if so, how would I go about it? My assembly coding is less than fantastic, so if anyone has any code etc they'd like to share I would not complain :-) If not, any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7443 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 31 Lines: 29 21,22c22,23 I had it working fine a while back but purchased a new computer and lost = the file. I had it working fine a while back but purchased a new computer and lost the file. 25,29c26,28 =20 I renamed the file to do away with the <htm> but it still will not = load. Thanks for contributing the great code-- can 4 units be operated at = once? I renamed the file to do away with the <htm> but it still will not load. Thanks for contributing the great code-- can 4 units be operated at once?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7450 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 30 Lines: 29 20,23c21,24 Being on the BEAM robotics list for ages i realise how annoying it is to = have newbies coming in and you having to explain things all over again, = but i just can't find the info i'm looking for so here goes... =20 Being on the BEAM robotics list for ages i realise how annoying it is to have newbies coming in and you having to explain things all over again, but i just can't find the info i'm looking for so here goes... 25,35c26,35 first - the L293D - i can get it but at $20 *each* that pretty much = blows my budget for this project of building my very own handy board. = Any alternatives from farnell (hopefully) so i don't have to pay all = that postage? =20 Also i have been unable to find that 32k RAM chip, farnell only stocks = the 16k and the 64k, not the 32k. Any ideas? Could i use a 64k somehow = and not use the upper 32k. =20 The IR demodulator, what is it and what are the alternatives?=20 =20 first - the L293D - i can get it but at $20 *each* that pretty much blows my budget for this project of building my very own handy board. Any alternatives from farnell (hopefully) so i don't have to pay all that postage? Also i have been unable to find that 32k RAM chip, farnell only stocks the 16k and the 64k, not the 32k. Any ideas? Could i use a 64k somehow and not use the upper 32k. The IR demodulator, what is it and what are the alternatives? 37c37 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7459 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 27 Lines: 26 19,22c20,23 Since the Hitachi web site is useless and i can't find data sheets for = the 16x2 display, i am looking for alternatives - i'd like to get them = from BG micro since they have all kinds of goodies like the 68hc11, RAM = chips and displays. Which of the following is suitable? Since the Hitachi web site is useless and i can't find data sheets for the 16x2 display, i am looking for alternatives - i'd like to get them from BG micro since they have all kinds of goodies like the 68hc11, RAM chips and displays. Which of the following is suitable? 25,26c26 Optrex_DMC 20434-20x4 LCD 8bit ASCII input with hd44780 controller by = hitachi. Optrex_DMC 20434-20x4 LCD 8bit ASCII input with hd44780 controller by hitachi.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7460 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 19 Lines: 18 19,23c20,23 I am using motor port 0 to control a lego motor (gearmotor #5225) The = problem I am having is that I cannot seem to change the motor speed = using motor(0, speed) where speed is between -100 & 100. The motor turns = on at 15 (or -15), but sstays at the same speed throughout the reamiaing = power levels.=20 I am using motor port 0 to control a lego motor (gearmotor #5225) The problem I am having is that I cannot seem to change the motor speed using motor(0, speed) where speed is between -100 & 100. The motor turns on at 15 (or -15), but sstays at the same speed throughout the reamiaing power levels. 25,27c25,27 I have tried this with a motor out of a CD-ROM drive (eject motor - = sanyo) and it works fine. Is there omething special anbout the lego = motor I need to be aware of? I have tried this with a motor out of a CD-ROM drive (eject motor - sanyo) and it works fine. Is there omething special anbout the lego motor I need to be aware of?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7471 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 19,24c20,24 I had a close look at that IR receiver and gasp - it looks just the same = as one i bought from a local store, dick smith electronics. The part = IS1U60 is listed as U60. It is now discontinued but the replacement, U61 = is just the same, only buffered. Personally i hate the customer service = at my local store but the internet service is excellent. Anyway, the URL = is www.dse.com.au . I had a close look at that IR receiver and gasp - it looks just the same as one i bought from a local store, dick smith electronics. The part IS1U60 is listed as U60. It is now discontinued but the replacement, U61 is just the same, only buffered. Personally i hate the customer service at my local store but the internet service is excellent. Anyway, the URL is www.dse.com.au . 29c29 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7472 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 18 Lines: 17 19,21c20,21 Does anyone know where I could get hold of a couple of stepper motors & = matching gearboxes in Australia? I've tried everywhere I can think of = with no luck. Does anyone know where I could get hold of a couple of stepper motors & matching gearboxes in Australia? I've tried everywhere I can think of with no luck.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7586 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 30 21,26c22,27 I've just finished building Kam Leang's sonar circuit as published on = his web site, and it all seems to be working well. I am having a problem = interfacing it to the handyboard however. I'm not entirely sure how to set bits high and low etc on the SPI port, = which is where I intend to hook this up. I have looked at the other = sonar code thats around, but it hasn't been of much help. I've just finished building Kam Leang's sonar circuit as published on his web site, and it all seems to be working well. I am having a problem interfacing it to the handyboard however. I'm not entirely sure how to set bits high and low etc on the SPI port, which is where I intend to hook this up. I have looked at the other sonar code thats around, but it hasn't been of much help. 28,33c29,33 This particular circuit doesn't use any kind of inhibitor to remove = extreme close range signals. All I need is a ping out, then to count = time before it bounces back. All the examples I've seen have used a = rising edge signal, however this circuit is normally high and drops low = when an echo is detected. The pink book just confused me even more (I = hate to say). This particular circuit doesn't use any kind of inhibitor to remove extreme close range signals. All I need is a ping out, then to count time before it bounces back. All the examples I've seen have used a rising edge signal, however this circuit is normally high and drops low when an echo is detected. The pink book just confused me even more (I hate to say). 35,37c35,36 Could anyone out there give me a few pointers of what bits need = setting/resetting, and how to go about it? It would be greatly = appreciated. Could anyone out there give me a few pointers of what bits need setting/resetting, and how to go about it? It would be greatly appreciated.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7605 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 31 Lines: 29 21,26c22,26 C/10 for a NiCd is a little much for a trickle charge. C/10 on NiCd's = is usually considered more of a trimming type of charge following a = higher charge rate of C or C/2 to put the bulk of the energy back in. = The C/10 can top the battery off and help even out the individual cell = charge but for long periods it can be stressful. C/50 or even C/100 is = a better rate for a trickle charge. C/10 for a NiCd is a little much for a trickle charge. C/10 on NiCd's is usually considered more of a trimming type of charge following a higher charge rate of C or C/2 to put the bulk of the energy back in. The C/10 can top the battery off and help even out the individual cell charge but for long periods it can be stressful. C/50 or even C/100 is a better rate for a trickle charge. 28,34c28,33 But..... And I'm saying this without having a chance to look at the = charging circuit again..... I think the circuit actually creates a C/10 = max rate with a voltage clamp of whatever the powersupply voltage is. = As the battery voltage increases during the charge the voltage drop = across the limiting resistor decreases reducing the current into the = battery. This is actually the ideal condition to charge the batteries = as long as the powersupply voltage is correct. But..... And I'm saying this without having a chance to look at the charging circuit again..... I think the circuit actually creates a C/10 max rate with a voltage clamp of whatever the powersupply voltage is. As the battery voltage increases during the charge the voltage drop across the limiting resistor decreases reducing the current into the battery. This is actually the ideal condition to charge the batteries as long as the powersupply voltage is correct. 36,40c35,39 Anyway having said all that. i have two HB's that I leave on the = charger all the time. They've been there for over two years. When I = take them off the charger and use them they seem to last as long as they = did when they were new. I'm betting if I kept them in the generally = discharged state I would have been buying new batteries by now. Anyway having said all that. i have two HB's that I leave on the charger all the time. They've been there for over two years. When I take them off the charger and use them they seem to last as long as they did when they were new. I'm betting if I kept them in the generally discharged state I would have been buying new batteries by now.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7666 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 22 Lines: 20 19,20c20,21 Hi,=20 I have connected sonar to my HB and it is time to analyse the data. =20 Hi, I have connected sonar to my HB and it is time to analyse the data. 22,24c23,24 Is it true that the sonar range reading is in a cone shape at 30 deg. = and not at point form ? I just can't find any information from the = Polaroid home page. Is it true that the sonar range reading is in a cone shape at 30 deg. and not at point form ? I just can't find any information from the Polaroid home page. 26,28c26,27 Is anyone there knows how to map using evidence grid method as = published in Dr. Hans Moravec's "High Resolution Maps from Wide Angle = Sonar? Is anyone there knows how to map using evidence grid method as published in Dr. Hans Moravec's "High Resolution Maps from Wide Angle Sonar?
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7723 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 86 Lines: 76 22c23 What advcie can you give me . I have to start from scrath .=20 What advcie can you give me . I have to start from scrath . 36,40c37,39 kits or boards I have to buy through internet. It will also cost me 7 = times the price you will pay. As I'm new to this and=20 I don't have lots of money to spend and then just to realize the = package kits or boards I have to buy through internet. It will also cost me 7 times the price you will pay. As I'm new to this and I don't have lots of money to spend and then just to realize the package 52,53c51 How does the processor from the different above boards compare ?? Which = have How does the processor from the different above boards compare ?? Which have 57,58c55 I have some other questions as well. I have seen books publisehed how = to I have some other questions as well. I have seen books publisehed how to 62,63c59 only ones from MICROCHIP and related ones?? If I learn to program a = handy only ones from MICROCHIP and related ones?? If I learn to program a handy 73c69 Author: David Benson=20 Author: David Benson 75,78c71,72 Title: PIC'n Techniques"=A9 is an intermediate level applications = guide covering Microchip Technology's PIC microcontrollers. The book = describes Title: PIC'n Techniques"© is an intermediate level applications guide covering Microchip Technology's PIC microcontrollers. The book describes 80c74 Author: David Benson=20 Author: David Benson 82,85c76,77 Serial PIC'n" =A9 is a comprehensive book which details various methods = for implementing serial communications between a Microchip PIC = microcontroller Serial PIC'n" © is a comprehensive book which details various methods for implementing serial communications between a Microchip PIC microcontroller 87c79 By Roger Stevens=20 By Roger Stevens 91,93c83,84 Mobile Robots : Inspiration to Implementation by=20 Joseph J. Jones, Bruce A. Seiger, Anita M. Flynn. 457 pp. Softcover = ISBN Mobile Robots : Inspiration to Implementation by Joseph J. Jones, Bruce A. Seiger, Anita M. Flynn. 457 pp. Softcover ISBN 96c87 differ from above or where are the similarities??=20 differ from above or where are the similarities?? 105d95
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7755 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 Does anybody have a routine to measure the width of PWM pulses from an = R/C receiver (ie the pulses which control the servos). Does anybody have a routine to measure the width of PWM pulses from an R/C receiver (ie the pulses which control the servos).
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7765 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 88 Lines: 85 21,23c22,23 I'm at my wits end on this one. It's a little routine to measure on PA0 = a pulse width of a PWM signal generated on PA7. The two pins are linked = with a jumper. I'm at my wits end on this one. It's a little routine to measure on PA0 a pulse width of a PWM signal generated on PA7. The two pins are linked with a jumper. 25,26c25,26 I've looked through all the books and and handyboard archive, but all I = get is values that just don't seem to make sense. I've looked through all the books and and handyboard archive, but all I get is values that just don't seem to make sense. 36c36 int period=3D1500; /* High period for PWM signal on PA7 */ int period=1500; /* High period for PWM signal on PA7 */ 38c38 int TIC3 =3D 0x1014; /* TIC3 at $1014 and $1015 (connected to PA0) */ int TIC3 = 0x1014; /* TIC3 at $1014 and $1015 (connected to PA0) */ 40c40 int TCTL2 =3D 0x1021; /* TCTL2 (input capture register) at $1021 */ int TCTL2 = 0x1021; /* TCTL2 (input capture register) at $1021 */ 42c42 int TFLG1 =3D 0x1023; /* TFLG1 (input capture flag register) at $1023 */ int TFLG1 = 0x1023; /* TFLG1 (input capture flag register) at $1023 */ 54,55c54 /* Detect a signal at PA0 on its rising edge -> set bit #0 to 1 and #1 = to 0 */ /* Detect a signal at PA0 on its rising edge -> set bit #0 to 1 and #1 to 0 */ 63,64c62,63 while (peek(TFLG1) & 0x01 !=3D 0x01){} /* Loop until the capture flag = for PA0 is set*/ while (peek(TFLG1) & 0x01 != 0x01){} /* Loop until the capture flag for PA0 is set*/ 68c67 rising_edge =3D peekword(TIC3); rising_edge = peekword(TIC3); 72,73c71 /* Detect a signal at PA0 on its falling edge -> set bit #0 to 1 and #1 = to 1 */ /* Detect a signal at PA0 on its falling edge -> set bit #0 to 1 and #1 to 1 */ 81,82c79,80 while (peek(TFLG1) & 0x01 !=3D 0x01) {} /* Loop until the capture flag = for PA0 is set*/ while (peek(TFLG1) & 0x01 != 0x01) {} /* Loop until the capture flag for PA0 is set*/ 86c84 falling_edge =3D peekword(TIC3); falling_edge = peekword(TIC3); 90c88 printf("Pulse range =3D %d", rising_edge);=20 printf("Pulse range = %d", rising_edge); 92c90 printf(" %d\n", falling_edge);=20 printf(" %d\n", falling_edge);
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7776 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 I need something like the tone( ) function, but I need to specify the = port the signal is output to.=20 I need something like the tone( ) function, but I need to specify the port the signal is output to. 26,27c27,28 Where does the code for the tone( ) function reside in the lib = directory? Maybe I could copy it and modify it about to make my own. Where does the code for the tone( ) function reside in the lib directory? Maybe I could copy it and modify it about to make my own.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7799 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 27 21,34c22,33 I left it on charge accidently for two days-could possibly even been in = the zap mode I'm not sure. What did happen was the battery was dead ,r-11 was hot and turned black = and the diode bridge was hot. The charge led does not lightwhen power is applied in normal mode or = zap mode. The mole ac adapter regesters 19 volts while unpluged,positive being the = outside of the plug. I have installed a new 9.5v- 1000mAh radio shack #23-329A battery and = the 47ohm r-11. R-11 will still get hot when power is applied and the handyboard is = connected. I have the correct telephone type rj11 connecting cord, same as I have = been using. Colors match when held facing each other as per directions. I left it on charge accidently for two days-could possibly even been in the zap mode I'm not sure. What did happen was the battery was dead ,r-11 was hot and turned black and the diode bridge was hot. The charge led does not lightwhen power is applied in normal mode or zap mode. The mole ac adapter regesters 19 volts while unpluged,positive being the outside of the plug. I have installed a new 9.5v- 1000mAh radio shack #23-329A battery and the 47ohm r-11. R-11 will still get hot when power is applied and the handyboard is connected. I have the correct telephone type rj11 connecting cord, same as I have been using. Colors match when held facing each other as per directions.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7800 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 19,21c20,22 Hi,=20 Forgot to tell that the board did download the p-code and seems to work = ok with the new battery installed. Hi, Forgot to tell that the board did download the p-code and seems to work ok with the new battery installed. 23,25c24,25 Also when I plug the charger adapter directly into the handyboard the = yellow led flickers between bright and dim for about one minute then = glows dim. Also when I plug the charger adapter directly into the handyboard the yellow led flickers between bright and dim for about one minute then glows dim.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7812 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 23 Lines: 21 21,22c22 I'm trying to use the AS11_IC assembler which comes in the pcode_pc zip = file. I'm trying to use the AS11_IC assembler which comes in the pcode_pc zip file. 24,25c24 I'm getting 'file not found' and 'can't open' messages left, right and = center.=20 I'm getting 'file not found' and 'can't open' messages left, right and center. 27c26 All the necessary files seem to be in the right directories, except for = All the necessary files seem to be in the right directories, except for
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7819 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 73 Lines: 67 21,90c22,81 it give us pleasure to request your indulgence in this = extremely CONFIDENTIAl business proposition which we want you to handle = for us IN YOUR PRIVETE CAPACITY. This total believe and reponse of trust = in you, is in consideration of your enviable track record in the = business terrain. we are into consultancy and we represent the fiancial interest of one = time National security Adviser to the military Head of state that died = in power here in Nigeria. The henchman that assumed leadership at the = dead of the head of state, had our client kept under house-arrest till = he himself handed over power to a dully elected civilan goverment. with = the emergence of quarters for the seizure and confiscation of our = client's know private business empire and huge financial both and = abroad. it was with the above fears that our firm was contracted to seek for = ways and proper means securing as much as we can manage of our clients = monies out of Nigeria, should in case the unexpected happened as (our = client) is not too sure of the goverment's next line of action against = him. Meanwhile, our client had before now made to be carried out of this = country , physical cash of about US$60 MILLION through various disguised = means in diplomatic courier bags into Europe, but that means is now = block, with the advent of this present civilian dispensation hence our = firm was hired to seek a foreign associated/partner who will act as a = registered International contractor to receive in TRUST US$35.5MILLION = now in queue for payment at the Apex Bank of Nigeria. you need not to entertain any fear whatsoever, pertaining to the receipt = of the funds. Reason being that concrete measures are already in place = to protect your right as a bonafide beneficiary to US35.5MILLION vide a = category "A" contractual debt owed you through our client's former = office at the presidential palace for the satisfactory supply of medical = products and Health related materials in all the Nigeria Hospitals and = health centres on behaif of the Federal Goverment of Nigeria. The = modalities in place are concrete and RISK-FREE, because it enjoys the = full backing of top ranking officers here in the Apex Bank. Meanwhile, let me explain candidly the source of this money to you. it = is not ILL-GOTTEN, but that while our client received as security vote = from presidency during his tenure and capacity as National security = Adviser to the President at the time. However if you will oblige us once more, we arrange that you also = receive and keep in custody some of the funds already outside this = country (Nigeria) on behalf of our client. As our client have indicated = to us that he would be more at ease with himself, if the funds are not = scattered about, but kept by a single custodian to make room for = proper accountability. while you would apart from keeping the funds in = custody, be required to revolve the money in positive and viable blue = chips investments on behalf of our client. for your kind assistance and = support in receiving this funds, you shall be entitled to 30% of the = total sum, 10% of the said amount would be used to offset all local and = international expenses that might be incurred in the process of = remitting this funds to your nominated bank account and the balance of = 60% would be left in trust with you for our client, while you shall = agree to give our firm 5% of your entitlement as consultation fees only = payable immediately after the funds are confirmed in you nominated = account. your urgent response throught our E-mail addresses as follows, = johnsonodiye@excite.com and phone/fax number as 234-1-4700146 will be = appreciated. or better still, you could CALL TO SPEAK with me in person = on the above issues and in replying, kindly let me have your Nominated = bank account and details, your private and confidential fax, Telephone = or/E-mail address and Mobile phone for easy and safe communication with = you. TREAT AS EXTREMELY URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL. =20 johnson odiye =20 it give us pleasure to request your indulgence in this extremely CONFIDENTIAl business proposition which we want you to handle for us IN YOUR PRIVETE CAPACITY. This total believe and reponse of trust in you, is in consideration of your enviable track record in the business terrain. we are into consultancy and we represent the fiancial interest of one time National security Adviser to the military Head of state that died in power here in Nigeria. The henchman that assumed leadership at the dead of the head of state, had our client kept under house-arrest till he himself handed over power to a dully elected civilan goverment. with the emergence of quarters for the seizure and confiscation of our client's know private business empire and huge financial both and abroad. it was with the above fears that our firm was contracted to seek for ways and proper means securing as much as we can manage of our clients monies out of Nigeria, should in case the unexpected happened as (our client) is not too sure of the goverment's next line of action against him. Meanwhile, our client had before now made to be carried out of this country , physical cash of about US$60 MILLION through various disguised means in diplomatic courier bags into Europe, but that means is now block, with the advent of this present civilian dispensation hence our firm was hired to seek a foreign associated/partner who will act as a registered International contractor to receive in TRUST US$35.5MILLION now in queue for payment at the Apex Bank of Nigeria. you need not to entertain any fear whatsoever, pertaining to the receipt of the funds. Reason being that concrete measures are already in place to protect your right as a bonafide beneficiary to US35.5MILLION vide a category "A" contractual debt owed you through our client's former office at the presidential palace for the satisfactory supply of medical products and Health related materials in all the Nigeria Hospitals and health centres on behaif of the Federal Goverment of Nigeria. The modalities in place are concrete and RISK-FREE, because it enjoys the full backing of top ranking officers here in the Apex Bank. Meanwhile, let me explain candidly the source of this money to you. it is not ILL-GOTTEN, but that while our client received as security vote from presidency during his tenure and capacity as National security Adviser to the President at the time. However if you will oblige us once more, we arrange that you also receive and keep in custody some of the funds already outside this country (Nigeria) on behalf of our client. As our client have indicated to us that he would be more at ease with himself, if the funds are not scattered about, but kept by a single custodian to make room for proper accountability. while you would apart from keeping the funds in custody, be required to revolve the money in positive and viable blue chips investments on behalf of our client. for your kind assistance and support in receiving this funds, you shall be entitled to 30% of the total sum, 10% of the said amount would be used to offset all local and international expenses that might be incurred in the process of remitting this funds to your nominated bank account and the balance of 60% would be left in trust with you for our client, while you shall agree to give our firm 5% of your entitlement as consultation fees only payable immediately after the funds are confirmed in you nominated account. your urgent response throught our E-mail addresses as follows, johnsonodiye@excite.com and phone/fax number as 234-1-4700146 will be appreciated. or better still, you could CALL TO SPEAK with me in person on the above issues and in replying, kindly let me have your Nominated bank account and details, your private and confidential fax, Telephone or/E-mail address and Mobile phone for easy and safe communication with you. TREAT AS EXTREMELY URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL. 93a85 johnson odiye
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7908 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22,26c23,27 Has anyone managed to work out some code which checks the overflow bit = for the counter used in the polaroid sonar code? At the moment mine = distance readings seem to be maxing out around 1.5m or so, and I'm not = sure if it's the timer running out or if it's my circuit not having = enough gain to receive a signal from further than that. Has anyone managed to work out some code which checks the overflow bit for the counter used in the polaroid sonar code? At the moment mine distance readings seem to be maxing out around 1.5m or so, and I'm not sure if it's the timer running out or if it's my circuit not having enough gain to receive a signal from further than that. 28,30c29,31 I've had two conflicting answers with regards to the maximum time that = can be measured - one which says about 1.5m and another which says = somewhere closer to 8-10m. I've had two conflicting answers with regards to the maximum time that can be measured - one which says about 1.5m and another which says somewhere closer to 8-10m.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7983 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22,23c23,24 If its possible, can you give me the printed circuit of the handy board. = I have to make a project with it. If its possible, can you give me the printed circuit of the handy board. I have to make a project with it. 31c32 Atte: Jorge A. Palacios. =20 Atte: Jorge A. Palacios.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:7986 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 chip I want to test it to be sure that the problem is there. But I don=B4t know how to test if the latch works fine. =20 chip I want to test it to be sure that the problem is there. But I don´t know how to test if the latch works fine. 26c27 Thanks=20 Thanks 30,31c31 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8029 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 I=B4m using the servo_a7.icb file to drive a servo on my handyboard, but the I´m using the servo_a7.icb file to drive a servo on my handyboard, but the 25c26 use, but i can=B4t find it. use, but i can´t find it. 30d30
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8095 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 like a normal C compiler, but it doesn=B4t work. What can I do?. like a normal C compiler, but it doesn´t work. What can I do?. 24d24
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8124 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 31 20,21c21,22 I desperately need a circuit that can drive a single 4 = pole steeper motor, with lcd output. I desperately need a circuit that can drive a single 4 pole steeper motor, with lcd output. 24,25c25,26 Press button again motor turns 180 degrees again, display shows = "Trickster Ready" Press button again motor turns 180 degrees again, display shows "Trickster Ready" 29,30c30,31 Willing to pay good money for person who helps me in my quest for this = great project. Willing to pay good money for person who helps me in my quest for this great project. 33c34 I can not program very well=20 I can not program very well 40,41c41 This project will lead to a nice volume of business from me if you can = help. This project will lead to a nice volume of business from me if you can help.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8243 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 56 Lines: 54 21,57c22,56 I am during the assembly phase where I am supposed to be able to = download the pcode to the handy board. I've placed on my handyboard a UM62256A-10L as RAM a MC47HC132N and a = PICVUE 16x2 LCD PVC160203P All the test from the handyboard assembly manual until now where ok. = When I plug my LCD It shows a dark single row of blocks. I tried = downloading the pcode using dl, dlm hdlm under windows dos and linux on = a Pentium 200 MMX and a 386 DX 40 MHz without succes. hdlm displayed = Error downloading byte #0x06. dl downloads 90% and freezes if i don't = use the -bs_ignore option. With the -bs_ignore option it says download = succesfull and fails to sincronize with the board. Dlm recognises = bootstrap mode corectly, but does the same as dl.=20 With the debug option for dlm i can see what dlm sends and receives from = the board, send and receive caracters are not the same but i suppose = that's how it should be.It stops at 90% by sending 00 and receiving = 0080, and fails to sincronize with the board by sending 73 and receiving = one time 0080 and then nothing. I' tried with and without the LCD.The voltage at RAM pin 28 is +5V at = the MC74HC132N the same, and my E-clock frequency is 2.22 Mhz ( is that = a problem?). I read the reference guide from motorola and it said there that the MCU = should be in single chip (Mode 0) or expanded Mode 1 ) that Means MODB = allways 1 and MODA 0 for first case and 1 for the second one. Acording to the handiboard's wiring i could never reach any of them for = MODB is allways connected to the ground. Special Bootstrap mode should mean MODB=3DMODA=3D0 and special test mode = MODB=3D0 MODA=3D1 I correctly reached bootstrap mode and when dlm or dl get stuck my board = jumps directly in Special test mode. Question: Is that Normal?=20 Am I doing something wrong with the dl or dlm parameters, what does the = hdlm error mean ? I am during the assembly phase where I am supposed to be able to download the pcode to the handy board. I've placed on my handyboard a UM62256A-10L as RAM a MC47HC132N and a PICVUE 16x2 LCD PVC160203P All the test from the handyboard assembly manual until now where ok. When I plug my LCD It shows a dark single row of blocks. I tried downloading the pcode using dl, dlm hdlm under windows dos and linux on a Pentium 200 MMX and a 386 DX 40 MHz without succes. hdlm displayed Error downloading byte #0x06. dl downloads 90% and freezes if i don't use the -bs_ignore option. With the -bs_ignore option it says download succesfull and fails to sincronize with the board. Dlm recognises bootstrap mode corectly, but does the same as dl. With the debug option for dlm i can see what dlm sends and receives from the board, send and receive caracters are not the same but i suppose that's how it should be.It stops at 90% by sending 00 and receiving 0080, and fails to sincronize with the board by sending 73 and receiving one time 0080 and then nothing. I' tried with and without the LCD.The voltage at RAM pin 28 is +5V at the MC74HC132N the same, and my E-clock frequency is 2.22 Mhz ( is that a problem?). I read the reference guide from motorola and it said there that the MCU should be in single chip (Mode 0) or expanded Mode 1 ) that Means MODB allways 1 and MODA 0 for first case and 1 for the second one. Acording to the handiboard's wiring i could never reach any of them for MODB is allways connected to the ground. Special Bootstrap mode should mean MODB=MODA=0 and special test mode MODB=0 MODA=1 I correctly reached bootstrap mode and when dlm or dl get stuck my board jumps directly in Special test mode. Question: Is that Normal? Am I doing something wrong with the dl or dlm parameters, what does the hdlm error mean ? 65c64 =20
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8350 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 27c28 at port 7.=20 at port 7.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8356 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 >=20 > 25c26 > Germany. We don=B4t get the LCD (LM-052L), the Motorola > Germany. We don´t get the LCD (LM-052L), the Motorola 27c28 >=20 > 29c30 Well, thats not a problem. For the LCD you can get a other=20 Well, thats not a problem. For the LCD you can get a other 34c35 you have only the problem that the pins are right upper=20 you have only the problem that the pins are right upper 41c42 --=20 -- 50d50
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8360 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,25c22,26 We were uploading pseudo-code, and suddently the board turnend off. Now = we can uploade the pseudo-code, but after we cut the power, the code is = gone. The memory chip is getting hot, so maybe thats the problem??? and = the condencer located next to the memory chip is also getting hot. =20 We were uploading pseudo-code, and suddently the board turnend off. Now we can uploade the pseudo-code, but after we cut the power, the code is gone. The memory chip is getting hot, so maybe thats the problem??? and the condencer located next to the memory chip is also getting hot. 30c31 Group 141=20 Group 141
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8386 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 54 Lines: 38 21,24c22,23 > Can somebody tell me what the assembler directive ".follow" means in= the > GCC Handyboard Library written by Curt Mills? I can=B4t find it in t= he > Can somebody tell me what the assembler directive ".follow" means in the > GCC Handyboard Library written by Curt Mills? I can´t find it in the 26,34c25,29 > doesn=B4t assemble the files with this directive. > And another question: Is the GCC HB Library working with the current= > version of the gcc cross compiler (from http://www.gnu-m68hc11.org/)= ? I > tried some different things, but the gcc can=B4t compile assemblerco= de for > the as6811, and so i am not able to link the assemblercode (written = for > doesn´t assemble the files with this directive. > And another question: Is the GCC HB Library working with the current > version of the gcc cross compiler (from http://www.gnu-m68hc11.org/)? I > tried some different things, but the gcc can´t compile assemblercode for > the as6811, and so i am not able to link the assemblercode (written for 36,37c31 > How did that work in the past? Did the old gcc cross compiler use as= 6811 > How did that work in the past? Did the old gcc cross compiler use as6811 42,56c36,43 A year or so ago, I took Curt Mill's handyboard library and ported it t= o gas and the then-current cross compiler. It seemed to work fairly well= , but I honestly can't say what the current state of the code is. Since = some of you might be adventure seekers, I've put a tarball of the code, upda= ted Makefiles, etc, up at ftp://ftp.csgeeks.org/pub/handyboard/libhb.tar.gz= . If anyone has any specific questions about the code, I'll try to answer= , but don't expect that this will be ready to run out of the box. It mig= ht A year or so ago, I took Curt Mill's handyboard library and ported it to gas and the then-current cross compiler. It seemed to work fairly well, but I honestly can't say what the current state of the code is. Since some of you might be adventure seekers, I've put a tarball of the code, updated Makefiles, etc, up at ftp://ftp.csgeeks.org/pub/handyboard/libhb.tar.gz. If anyone has any specific questions about the code, I'll try to answer, but don't expect that this will be ready to run out of the box. It might 59,60c46 If someone wants to pick this up and do edits, I'm willing to provide t= he If someone wants to pick this up and do edits, I'm willing to provide the 63,64c49 Thanks to Curt Mills for giving me something to work with... He did mo= st Thanks to Curt Mills for giving me something to work with... He did most 70c55 --=20 -- 74d58
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8434 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,25c22,26 I have a question about the PCB that Matt Harlan have made for an = LMD18200 H-Bridge. In that PCB seems that the Thermal Flag Output of the = chip goes directly out and ready to connet to the HB, but this output = will not be, in the case of set, of the same voltage that the batt.? (ie = 12 V). So in that Case will be a need to use a voltage divider. I have a question about the PCB that Matt Harlan have made for an LMD18200 H-Bridge. In that PCB seems that the Thermal Flag Output of the chip goes directly out and ready to connet to the HB, but this output will not be, in the case of set, of the same voltage that the batt.? (ie 12 V). So in that Case will be a need to use a voltage divider. 31c32 Jos=E9 Luis José Luis
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8490 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Hello,=20 Hello, 21,22c22,23 We first charged the Handy Board. Then we=20 tried to download the file pcode_hb.s19.=20 We first charged the Handy Board. Then we tried to download the file pcode_hb.s19. 30c31 see is a row of black squares on the top line of=20 see is a row of black squares on the top line of 33c34 3. We tried to download again, we first put the=20 3. We tried to download again, we first put the 35c36 by first turning the board off, and then turning it=20 by first turning the board off, and then turning it 37c38 LED lighted for a very short time and both turned=20 LED lighted for a very short time and both turned 39c40 said "wrong port or board mode". And at the same=20 said "wrong port or board mode". And at the same 41c42 on, no longer in the download mode.=20 on, no longer in the download mode.
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8492 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 We finally solved the problems we had.=20 We finally solved the problems we had. 22c23 with Windows operating system (I have=20 with Windows operating system (I have 26,27c27,28 type "dl pcode_hb.s19", then it worked.=20 And now we can run IC.=20 type "dl pcode_hb.s19", then it worked. And now we can run IC. 31c32 95. I'm not sure if it has been tested on=20 95. I'm not sure if it has been tested on 49c50 it sounds like you might be having problems with your serial port. =20 it sounds like you might be having problems with your serial port. 89d89
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8506 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Hello,=20 Hello, 31c32 i=3D0x01; i=0x01; 33c34 j=3Dpeek(0x0120); j=peek(0x0120); 35c36 and j is not 0x01.=20 and j is not 0x01. 44d44
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8511 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 > From: Arun Kumar =20 > From: Arun Kumar 23c24 >=20 > 25c26 > From: Arun Kumar =20 > From: Arun Kumar 29c30 >=20 > 31c32 >=20 > 37c38 >=20 > 43c44 >=20 > 47c48 >=20 >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8593 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 We are trying to write the code to measure the pulse width which=20 is less than 1ms. We use the input capture ports to generate the=20 We are trying to write the code to measure the pulse width which is less than 1ms. We use the input capture ports to generate the 24c25 are having some trouble to work it out.=20 are having some trouble to work it out. 26c27 Does anyone have the source code for measuring pulse width? =20 Does anyone have the source code for measuring pulse width? 30,31c31,32 > Yuwei Liao=20 >=20 > Yuwei Liao >
lugnet.robotics.handyboard:8596 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 30,33c31,34 =20 i=3Dpeek(0x1022); printf("TMSK1=3D%d ", i); j=3D0x00; i=peek(0x1022); printf("TMSK1=%d ", i); j=0x00; 35,37c36,38 i=3Dpeek(0x1022); printf("TMSK1=3D%d ", i); }=20 i=peek(0x1022); printf("TMSK1=%d ", i); } 41,46c42,47 We were trying to get the value of TMSK1, and clear it,=20 and then print the new value (0) again. The problem is=20 when we type: "main( );", nothing is displayed on the=20 LCD screen. Only when we do something else after it,=20 like type "load test.c", (but without running "main( );"=20 again), the expected string "TMSK1=3D24 TMSK1=3D0) is displayed. =20 We were trying to get the value of TMSK1, and clear it, and then print the new value (0) again. The problem is when we type: "main( );", nothing is displayed on the LCD screen. Only when we do something else after it, like type "load test.c", (but without running "main( );" again), the expected string "TMSK1=24 TMSK1=0) is displayed. 53,55c54,55 Yuwei Liao=20 =20 Yuwei Liao
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lugnet.robotics.rcx:732 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 17 20,22c21,22 > = > Carsten M=FCller <spirou@mobile.de> wrote: > > Carsten Müller <spirou@mobile.de> wrote: 25,26c25 > = > 28,29c27 > though. My thinking is: if you're at the point where you want to be doi= ng > though. My thinking is: if you're at the point where you want to be doing
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lugnet.robotics.rcx:986 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 144 Lines: 136 28,29c29 same like anybody else (... or most of yours ...) thought about this proble= m same like anybody else (... or most of yours ...) thought about this problem 42c42 Table: RCX with new batteries (6 * 1.55 V =3D 9.3 V) Table: RCX with new batteries (6 * 1.55 V = 9.3 V) 44,45c44,45 R U I P =3D U * I =87 V mA mW R U I P = U * I ‡ V mA mW 56c56 =20 58c58 sensor mode Raw=20 sensor mode Raw 61,62c61 This table shows that its impossible to get 35 mA with the power of 5 V fro= m This table shows that its impossible to get 35 mA with the power of 5 V from 67,68c66 outputs and not with its inputs. If you want to drive a GP2D12 (or somethin= g outputs and not with its inputs. If you want to drive a GP2D12 (or something 70,71c68 with your robot then yo have one output for driving your hungry sensors wit= h with your robot then yo have one output for driving your hungry sensors with 78,79c75 with full power because setting smaller power would result pwm (power with = a with full power because setting smaller power would result pwm (power with a 86c82 surroundings.=20 surroundings. 113,116c109,110 > Unless I am missing something here, the Sharp range of IR distance sensor= s > all have power consumptions in the 35mA range, which prohibits their use = with > Unless I am missing something here, the Sharp range of IR distance sensors > all have power consumptions in the 35mA range, which prohibits their use with 118c112 >=20 > 120c114 >=20 > 122c116 >=20 > 125,129c119,123 >>>=20 >>> Here is a link on how to hook up the GP2D02 to the RCX =3D >>> http://www.inchlab.com/gp2d02_interface.htm It seems to be overly =3D >>> complicated. Not to put down on Peter's creation as I think it was =3D >>> ingenious, but there must be a easier way to do this instead of =3D >>> >>> Here is a link on how to hook up the GP2D02 to the RCX = >>> http://www.inchlab.com/gp2d02_interface.htm It seems to be overly = >>> complicated. Not to put down on Peter's creation as I think it was = >>> ingenious, but there must be a easier way to do this instead of = 131c125 >>>=20 >>> 133c127 >>=20 >> 135,137c129,130 >>=20 >> I don't know an easier way of using GP2D02 but why don't you use the GP2= D12 >> >> I don't know an easier way of using GP2D02 but why don't you use the GP2D12 143c136 >>=20 >> 146c139 >>=20 >> 149c142 --=20 -- 163,164d155
lugnet.robotics.rcx:1025 8c8,9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 51 Lines: 47 22,23c23,24 |Or a substitute can be made as shown on the following web page =3D | http://odin.prohosting.com/pnewman/mindstorms/parts.bmp=20 |Or a substitute can be made as shown on the following web page = | http://odin.prohosting.com/pnewman/mindstorms/parts.bmp 25,28c26,27 |2 of liftarm 1 x 3 = http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=3D3D6632=3D20 |1 of four long rod = http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=3D3D3705 |2 of liftarm 1 x 3 http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=3D6632=20 |1 of four long rod http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=3D3705 32c31 |----- Original Message -----=3D20 |----- Original Message -----=20 41,43c40,41 |>=3D20 |> In the UAS manual on page 8, step 2, what is the blue object and = where |>=20 |> In the UAS manual on page 8, step 2, what is the blue object and where 49,50c47 |> What is the blue part and where do I find it (I have RIS1.0, RDS, = DDS, |> What is the blue part and where do I find it (I have RIS1.0, RDS, DDS, 52c49 |>=3D20 |>=20 56c53 |>=3D20 |>=20 59c56 |>=3D20 |>=20
lugnet.robotics.rcx:1243 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 20 Lines: 18 20,23c21,22 I own an IR tower and remote control, and was wondering if it is = possible to use the IR tower for other things. eg using PC + tower to control = stereo/TV, I own an IR tower and remote control, and was wondering if it is possible to use the IR tower for other things. eg using PC + tower to control stereo/TV,
lugnet.robotics.rcx:1386 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 > So for example ~f7=3D~11110111=3D00001000=3D10. > So for example ~f7=~11110111=00001000=10. 24c25 Better it should be ~f7=3D~11110111=3D00001000=3D08. Better it should be ~f7=~11110111=00001000=08. 30c31 f7 + ~f7 =3D 11110111 + 00001000 =3D 11111111 =3D ff =3D 255 f7 + ~f7 = 11110111 + 00001000 = 11111111 = ff = 255 38c39 --=20 -- 59c60 >=20 > 61c62 >>=20 >> 64c65 >=20 > 66c67 >=20 > 68c69 >=20 > 70c71 >=20 > 72c73 >=20 > 74,76c75,77 >=20 > So for example ~f7=3D~11110111=3D00001000=3D10. >=20 > > So for example ~f7=~11110111=00001000=10. > 79c80 >=20 > 81,84c82,83 >=20 > J=FCrgen > > Jürgen
lugnet.robotics.rcx:1696 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 34 Lines: 33 28c29 If someone can confirm it works, you can pick up a serial tower at the=20 If someone can confirm it works, you can pick up a serial tower at the 31c32 W779713 Infrared Transmitter and Cable Pack (Serial) $29.00=20 W779713 Infrared Transmitter and Cable Pack (Serial) $29.00 33,34c34 http://www.pldstore.com/pitsco2_30/catalog.cfm?dest=3Ditempg&itemid=3D246&s= ecid=3D9&linkon=3Dsubsection&linkid=3D42 http://www.pldstore.com/pitsco2_30/catalog.cfm?dest=itempg&itemid=246&secid=9&linkon=subsection&linkid=42 41c41 >=20 > 43c43 >=20 > 45c45 >=20 > 48c48 >=20 > 50c50 >=20 > 52,54c52,53 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > ======== >
lugnet.robotics.rcx:1916 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 25 21,22c22 rumors on how the RIS system is heading, I'd like to see how many RIS & = RCX rumors on how the RIS system is heading, I'd like to see how many RIS & RCX 28,29c28 If you love and enjoy the RIS kit, and are wanting to have the product = line If you love and enjoy the RIS kit, and are wanting to have the product line 31,32c30 thread, and add your name, state (if possible), and country to the bottom = of thread, and add your name, state (if possible), and country to the bottom of 47d44
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:429 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 161 Lines: 151 20,21c21,22 Cool! I'll add this to the HOWTO when I do the 0.2.0 update. Are there=20 any plans on the horizon for either emuLegOS or LegOSim to update to=20 Cool! I'll add this to the HOWTO when I do the 0.2.0 update. Are there any plans on the horizon for either emuLegOS or LegOSim to update to 31c32 >=20 > 33c34 >=20 > 35c36 >=20 > 37c38 >=20 > 39c40 >=20 > 41c42 >=20 > 52c53 >=20 > 54c55 >=20 > 70c71 >=20 > 72c73 >=20 > 76,77c77 > actuators: last action is displayed in yellow fields below respecti= ve > actuators: last action is displayed in yellow fields below respective 85,88c85,87 >=20 > Where do it get it, what kind of software is required, how do I install i= t? >=20 > > Where do it get it, what kind of software is required, how do I install it? > 94,95c93,94 > SunOS 4.1.x: gcc/egcs, FSU Pthreads, and (maybe on some other= host) > SunOS 4.1.x: gcc/egcs, FSU Pthreads, and (maybe on some other > host) 97,98c96 > others: Tested under Linux but may run elsewhere with the sam= e > others: Tested under Linux but may run elsewhere with the same 100,101c98 > Install for Linux as follows (for SunOS 4.1.x, replace LINUX -> SUN= 4): > Install for Linux as follows (for SunOS 4.1.x, replace LINUX -> SUN4): 107,108c104 > if your installation path is not $HOME/legosim, then ed= it > if your installation path is not $HOME/legosim, then edit 117,118c113 > now you have 5 seconds to execute the last command in w= indow > now you have 5 seconds to execute the last command in window 126,127c121 > Once you see "Connected to localhost, port #4711/4712", you h= ave > Once you see "Connected to localhost, port #4711/4712", you have 131,132c125 > You should see the motors (and LCD) reverse, go left (A rever= se, C > You should see the motors (and LCD) reverse, go left (A reverse, C 134,135c127,128 > Notice the required changes to your LegOS program: When you w= ant to > Notice the required changes to your LegOS program: When you want > to 141c134 >=20 > 143,145c136,137 >=20 > Simulation Library Documentation (in German but specs summarized in= a > > Simulation Library Documentation (in German but specs summarized in a 149c141 >=20 > 151c143 >=20 > 157,158c149,150 > The simulator should really be a library, not just a collection of = object > The simulator should really be a library, not just a collection of > object 160,161c152 > The sensors and actuators should be displayed with symbols, directi= ons > The sensors and actuators should be displayed with symbols, directions 164c155 >=20 > 166c157 >=20 > 170,173c161,164 > Thomas R=F6blitz > Oliver B=FChn >=20 >=20 > Thomas Röblitz > Oliver Bühn > > 178c169 =09 -Anonymous -Anonymous 181d171
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:464 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 22 Lines: 20 19,22c20,21 I'm looking for a complete package which includes all the tools I need = to work with legOS on a Windows95 platform (or DOS). Something for a = beginner I'm looking for a complete package which includes all the tools I need to work with legOS on a Windows95 platform (or DOS). Something for a beginner
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:551 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 58 Lines: 54 26c27 "Tower not responding" really means that it can't write to the tower.=20 "Tower not responding" really means that it can't write to the tower. 30c31 > return to the terminal.=20 > return to the terminal. 32,33c33,34 Weird. As far as I can tell, exit is called correctly=A0in all=20 circumstances where "tower not responding" could be generated.=20 Weird. As far as I can tell, exit is called correctly in all circumstances where "tower not responding" could be generated. 41,42c42 Again, it would appear here that the stream should be flushed and control= =20 Again, it would appear here that the stream should be flushed and control 47,51c47,50 Funny, a student had similar problems last night (with firmdl). No idea=20 if his problem was related, since he never tried it with firmdl3 and half= =20 an hour later it magically worked (good for him since he had a robot due=20 this morning.)=20 Funny, a student had similar problems last night (with firmdl). No idea if his problem was related, since he never tried it with firmdl3 and half an hour later it magically worked (good for him since he had a robot due this morning.) 60,61c59 Well, NQC won't help you with .lx files, unfortunately. However, it might= =20 Well, NQC won't help you with .lx files, unfortunately. However, it might 64,68c62,65 This seems to be very strange behavior- in particular, the bad exit calls= =20 seem to indicate (to me) something in the system (HW or OS related).=20 However, hopefully you can check the HW too. Please let us know-=20 considering all the recent HW problems we've had here, I'd be interested=20 This seems to be very strange behavior- in particular, the bad exit calls seem to indicate (to me) something in the system (HW or OS related). However, hopefully you can check the HW too. Please let us know- considering all the recent HW problems we've had here, I'd be interested 75c72 =09 -Anonymous -Anonymous 78d74
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:559 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 61 Lines: 56 21,22c22 > = > 24,25c24 > = > 35c34 if (ch < 1) ch=3D-2; if (ch < 1) ch=-2; 38c37 =2E.. and the disassembled code ... and the disassembled code 40c39 > make bug.o CFLAGS=3D-g > make bug.o CFLAGS=-g 68,69c67 times in function lnp_logical_write, and in most cases will change it=B4s= times in function lnp_logical_write, and in most cases will change it´s 72,73c70 > = > 76,78c73,74 > = well, i hope there is an ioctl, i=B4ll check this. Many thanks for your > well, i hope there is an ioctl, i´ll check this. Many thanks for your
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:566 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 35c36 investigation i think i found the problem, it=B4s in lnp_logical.c: investigation i think i found the problem, it´s in lnp_logical.c: 41c42 will be started too early, and that=B4s it... will be started too early, and that´s it... 45c46 immediately stop transmission. However, at least with linux it=B4s immediately stop transmission. However, at least with linux it´s 48c49 it=B4s byte correctly come back (and continue transmission), the other it´s byte correctly come back (and continue transmission), the other 50c51 argument wouldn=B4t apply anyways. argument wouldn´t apply anyways. 54,55c55,56 new_tx =3D sys_time+LNP_BYTE_SAFE; if (new_tx > allow_tx) allow_tx =3D new_tx; new_tx = sys_time+LNP_BYTE_SAFE; if (new_tx > allow_tx) allow_tx = new_tx; 59c60 packets successfully. ( I=B4m still wondering why the PC wins the race a packets successfully. ( I´m still wondering why the PC wins the race a
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:567 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,22c21,23 Great! While it is too late for the class I'm helping out with, and it=20 currently looks like it won't be offered again, I'm still looking=20 forward to playing with this in the spring. Thanks so much for the time=20 Great! While it is too late for the class I'm helping out with, and it currently looks like it won't be offered again, I'm still looking forward to playing with this in the spring. Thanks so much for the time 27c28 >=20 > 31c32 >=20 > 38c39 >=20 > 41c42 >=20 > 44,45c45,46 > investigation i think i found the problem, it=B4s in lnp_logical.c: >=20 > investigation i think i found the problem, it´s in lnp_logical.c: > 50,51c51,52 > will be started too early, and that=B4s it... >=20 > will be started too early, and that´s it... > 54c55 > immediately stop transmission. However, at least with linux it=B4s > immediately stop transmission. However, at least with linux it´s 57c58 > it=B4s byte correctly come back (and continue transmission), the other > it´s byte correctly come back (and continue transmission), the other 59,60c60,61 > argument wouldn=B4t apply anyways. >=20 > argument wouldn´t apply anyways. > 63,64c64,65 > new_tx =3D sys_time+LNP_BYTE_SAFE; > if (new_tx > allow_tx) allow_tx =3D new_tx; > new_tx = sys_time+LNP_BYTE_SAFE; > if (new_tx > allow_tx) allow_tx = new_tx; 66c67 >=20 > 68c69 > packets successfully. ( I=B4m still wondering why the PC wins the race a > packets successfully. ( I´m still wondering why the PC wins the race a 71c72 >=20 > 77c78 >=20 > 79,80c80,81 >=20 >=20 > > 85c86 =09 -Anonymous -Anonymous 88d88
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:579 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 42 Lines: 39 20,21c21 > = > 23,24c23 > = > 30c29 hello Markus, i=B4m still working on a (hopefully) portable, robust hello Markus, i´m still working on a (hopefully) portable, robust 32c31 the PC to communicate with one ore more RCX=B4s simultanously via one the PC to communicate with one ore more RCX´s simultanously via one 37c36 -- with 4800 baud, it=B4s worse. I looked at recent versions of rt-linux -- with 4800 baud, it´s worse. I looked at recent versions of rt-linux 39c38 won=B4t like to patch their kernel for this reason. won´t like to patch their kernel for this reason. 44,45c43 mainstream 16550A uarts on linux, but it=B4s not portable. I don=B4t like= mainstream 16550A uarts on linux, but it´s not portable. I don´t like 48c46 general purpose library shouldn=B4t use SIGALRM, if that can be avoided. general purpose library shouldn´t use SIGALRM, if that can be avoided. 57,58c55,56 Unfortunately, currently there=B4s very little spare time i can spend on legOS, but after Xmas i=B4ll have 7 days of vacancy 8-). Unfortunately, currently there´s very little spare time i can spend on legOS, but after Xmas i´ll have 7 days of vacancy 8-).
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:595 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 64 Lines: 57 21,22c22 > = > 26,27c26 > = > 29,30c28 > = > 33c31 have to read gcc=B4s warnings carefully. On linux, select() suffers have to read gcc´s warnings carefully. On linux, select() suffers 37c35 8=B4th byte, like SIGIO does. Of course, if bytes come in sporadically, 8´th byte, like SIGIO does. Of course, if bytes come in sporadically, 55,56c53 it, and do continous write() to the other one. = it, and do continous write() to the other one. 75,80c72,74 i=B4d really like to have more RCX=B4s and more Towers to test this works= with more than 2 stations on the IR-space. Hopefully i don=B4t go crazy o= n 24=B4th and get another mindstorms kit -- there are rumours toys=B4r-us h= as i´d really like to have more RCX´s and more Towers to test this works with more than 2 stations on the IR-space. Hopefully i don´t go crazy on 24´th and get another mindstorms kit -- there are rumours toys´r-us has
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:598 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 23 Lines: 21 21,22c22 > = > 24,25c24,25 > We are having troubles compiling code that makes use of the ran= dom() (and > We are having troubles compiling code that makes use of the random() > (and 29,30c29 > = > 36c35 there with nm, i found nothing like random. i=B4d bet, Markus has an there with nm, i found nothing like random. i´d bet, Markus has an 43d41
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:601 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 65 Lines: 53 21,22c22 > = > 28,31c28,29 > >rcxtty.c and tell us what error it gives then. (They should be backed = up as > >loader.c.orig, etc. Rename the patched files as loader.c.new to keep t= hem > >rcxtty.c and tell us what error it gives then. (They should be backed up as > >loader.c.orig, etc. Rename the patched files as loader.c.new to keep them 35,36c33 > = > 38,44c35,38 > = > More info about this odd bug. Installed 0.2.3, and the bug is still the= re. >=18 > So the rcxInit() stuff appears to be the problem. Any further ideas on = what > > More info about this odd bug. Installed 0.2.3, and the bug is still there. > > So the rcxInit() stuff appears to be the problem. Any further ideas on what 48,49c42 i dont=B4t know if you have already fixed this, anyways, there is a bug i= n i dont´t know if you have already fixed this, anyways, there is a bug in 60,61c53 = 65,67c57,58 = if(signo=3D=3DSIGIO) { if(signo==SIGIO) { 71,72c62 = 77,78c67 =
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:613 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 58 Lines: 50 20,21c21 Hello, i just uploaded some stuff to Luis Villa=B4s machine, that might b= e Hello, i just uploaded some stuff to Luis Villa´s machine, that might be 27c27 WHAT=B4S IN THE BOX: WHAT´S IN THE BOX: 32,36c32,34 Markus L. Noga=B4s famous legOS operating system and exchange messages according to the LNP protocol. = = Markus L. Noga´s famous legOS operating system and exchange messages according to the LNP protocol. 41,42c39 = 49,50c46 dll is a port of Marcus=B4 program downloader that uses liblnp. It=B4s = a dll is a port of Marcus´ program downloader that uses liblnp. It´s a 53c49 What=B4s fine What´s fine 55,56c51 = 64,65c59 However that=B4s NOT necessary for lnpd and liblnp to work properly, it= However that´s NOT necessary for lnpd and liblnp to work properly, it 70,72c64,65 it=B4s just an example. = it´s just an example.
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:616 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 29c30 I=B4ll now walk down into my dark and dirty cellar and try to find that I´ll now walk down into my dark and dirty cellar and try to find that
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:617 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 33 Lines: 31 20,24c21,23 No problem, Martin. Hope everyone enjoys this, and keeps in mind my offer= =20 of webspace for legOS-related projects. I look forward to testing out the= =20 code once I get back to school, and hope development continues apace.=20 No problem, Martin. Hope everyone enjoys this, and keeps in mind my offer of webspace for legOS-related projects. I look forward to testing out the code once I get back to school, and hope development continues apace. 29c28 >=20 > 34c33 >=20 > 36c35 >=20 > 38,39c37,38 >=20 > I=B4ll now walk down into my dark and dirty cellar and try to find that > > I´ll now walk down into my dark and dirty cellar and try to find that 42c41 >=20 > 44,45c43,44 >=20 >=20 > > 50c49 =09 -Anonymous -Anonymous 53d51
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:626 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 43 Lines: 41 37c38 but by far not as extreme. Unfortunately i don=B4t have a scope to but by far not as extreme. Unfortunately i don´t have a scope to 44,45c45 Currently, i think it=B4s not worth to invest too much time in this issue= , Currently, i think it´s not worth to invest too much time in this issue, 56,57c56 with 2048 baud may be faster after all, but it=B4s also not very realisti= c with 2048 baud may be faster after all, but it´s also not very realistic 59c58 don=B4t we ? ). The source for dllx is currently in the incoming of don´t we ? ). The source for dllx is currently in the incoming of
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:695 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 20 Lines: 19 20c21 On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth wrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Rossz Vámos-Wentworth wrote: 24,26c25,26 >=20 > I'll send it off to arthurdent on Monday morning. When Luis has the time= , > > I'll send it off to arthurdent on Monday morning. When Luis has the time, 30,31c30,31 Tomorrow is a bad day, but expect it to be up and announced by midnight=20 (EST) at the latest.=20 Tomorrow is a bad day, but expect it to be up and announced by midnight (EST) at the latest. 37c37 =09 -Anonymous -Anonymous 40d39
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:700 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 22,24c23,25 Obviously, I haven't tested it myself, but WinlegOS 0.2.3 is now online.=20 Many thanks are clearly due to Rossz for making this happen. If someone=20 wants to volunteer to write up a quick description of it's use, let me=20 Obviously, I haven't tested it myself, but WinlegOS 0.2.3 is now online. Many thanks are clearly due to Rossz for making this happen. If someone wants to volunteer to write up a quick description of it's use, let me 28,29c29,30 On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth wrote: >=20 On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Rossz Vámos-Wentworth wrote: > 33,35c34,35 >=20 > I'll send it off to arthurdent on Monday morning. When Luis has the time= , > > I'll send it off to arthurdent on Monday morning. When Luis has the time, 38c38 >=20 > 40,41c40,41 >=20 >=20 > > 46c46 =09 -Anonymous -Anonymous 49d48
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:769 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 hi there, i=B4m still not really sure when and why to use __attribute__ hi there, i´m still not really sure when and why to use __attribute__ 29c30 compiler doesn=B4t have the patch: it is to call the Macro compiler doesn´t have the patch: it is to call the Macro
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:772 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 31 Lines: 29 23,26c24,25 > probably have to use it on any function called in an interrupt context,= since > each one will have to preserve the scratch registers they use (because = the top > probably have to use it on any function called in an interrupt context, since > each one will have to preserve the scratch registers they use (because the top 48c47 reasons, so it doesn=B4t save and restore registers as needed. reasons, so it doesn´t save and restore registers as needed.
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:830 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 38 Lines: 35 40,43c41,42 >No matter what I do (opening the window, turning on more lights etc) I = can't >get the tower to stop seeing collissions. I must admit that IR reflects = so >No matter what I do (opening the window, turning on more lights etc) I can't >get the tower to stop seeing collissions. I must admit that IR reflects so 46,47c45 >So I tried loading your patch Martin. Sorry to be a pain, I assume this = is how >So I tried loading your patch Martin. Sorry to be a pain, I assume this is how 57d54
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:831 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 30c31 =46eb. 9 from "mb" <ncplus@bluewin.ch> on "Re: using the remote control Feb. 9 from "mb" <ncplus@bluewin.ch> on "Re: using the remote control 47,48d47
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:893 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 29 Lines: 28 21c22 > Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth wrote: > Rossz Vámos-Wentworth wrote: 23c24 > >=20 > > 27c28 > >=20 > > 31c32 > >=20 > > 33,34c34 > > no longer required. 2. The Perl script "FIXDEPS" is not needed. 3. Th= e > > no longer required. 2. The Perl script "FIXDEPS" is not needed. 3. The 37c37 >=20 > 46c46 =09 -Anonymous -Anonymous 49d48
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:894 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 32 Lines: 31 21c22 > Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth wrote: > Rossz Vámos-Wentworth wrote: 23c24 > >=20 > > 27c28 > >=20 > > 31c32 > >=20 > > 33,34c34 > > no longer required. 2. The Perl script "FIXDEPS" is not needed. 3. Th= e > > no longer required. 2. The Perl script "FIXDEPS" is not needed. 3. The 37c37 >=20 > 40,42c40,42 Martin, Rossz, you guys both now are registered and have CVS write=20 access. Be aware that sourceforge changes those things with a cron job=20 that runs every six hours or so, so it may be a few hours before you=20 Martin, Rossz, you guys both now are registered and have CVS write access. Be aware that sourceforge changes those things with a cron job that runs every six hours or so, so it may be a few hours before you 49c49 =09 -Anonymous -Anonymous 52d51
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:956 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 34 Lines: 31 21c22 > In lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth writes: > In lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, Rossz Vámos-Wentworth writes: 27,33c28,33 >=20 > That was probably me. I don't know anything about GCC asm macros so I wa= sn't > sure if it was a bug in memcpy or a bug in GCC's code generation. I solv= ed the > problem by going to egcs-1.1.2 which generates correct code. I was hopin= g that > > That was probably me. I don't know anything about GCC asm macros so I wasn't > sure if it was a bug in memcpy or a bug in GCC's code generation. I solved > the > problem by going to egcs-1.1.2 which generates correct code. I was hoping > that 35c35 >=20 > 37,45c37,43 Sorry... I was going to recommend the same thing last night, but got=20 sidetracked (it has been a tough two days to be a Duke basketball fan.) I= =20 have a question: from where in the code is the incorrect assembly=20 generated? i.e., could it be something that Markus is specifying=20 incorrectly or is it definitely a compiler problem? If it is definitely a= =20 compiler problem, the egcs/gcc people should be told about it and a bug=20 filed (however they handle that.)=20 Sorry... I was going to recommend the same thing last night, but got sidetracked (it has been a tough two days to be a Duke basketball fan.) I have a question: from where in the code is the incorrect assembly generated? i.e., could it be something that Markus is specifying incorrectly or is it definitely a compiler problem? If it is definitely a compiler problem, the egcs/gcc people should be told about it and a bug filed (however they handle that.) 51c49 =09 -Anonymous -Anonymous 54d51
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:979 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 45 Lines: 39 22,25c23,24 1) Fix your X configuration and run X and Xemacs. What card do you run? I= =20 may be able to help, or at least know where to point you. And, Xemacs has= =20 1) Fix your X configuration and run X and Xemacs. What card do you run? I may be able to help, or at least know where to point you. And, Xemacs has 27,31c26,28 2) Learn emacs- it's painful to learn, but once you've figured it out, it= =20 is great. Try going through the tutorial (Hit control-h, and then a t, to= =20 bring it up.) Once you are done with that, print out refcard.ps (should=20 2) Learn emacs- it's painful to learn, but once you've figured it out, it is great. Try going through the tutorial (Hit control-h, and then a t, to bring it up.) Once you are done with that, print out refcard.ps (should 33,35c30,31 3) If neither of those two appeal, try searching http://freshmeat.net for= =20 text editors. There aren't many out there that aren't X-based, since=20 3) If neither of those two appeal, try searching http://freshmeat.net for text editors. There aren't many out there that aren't X-based, since 38c34 Luis=20 Luis 40c36 On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth wrote: On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Rossz Vámos-Wentworth wrote: 43c39 > From: Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth <rossw@jps.net> > From: Rossz Vámos-Wentworth <rossw@jps.net> 46,48c42,43 >=20 > I need to pick a Linux editor for legOS programming. emacs and vi suck b= ig > > I need to pick a Linux editor for legOS programming. emacs and vi suck big 52c47 >=20 > 54,55c49,50 >=20 >=20 > > 62c57 -Keith Bostic=20 -Keith Bostic 65d59
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:981 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 77 Lines: 75 21,22c22 > XEmacs is great AND despite what everyone thinks, you DO NOT NEED X to ru= n > XEmacs is great AND despite what everyone thinks, you DO NOT NEED X to run 25,26c25,26 Right, and in terminal mode it does still have some advantages over=20 emacs. However, it loses the pulldown menus- which, for the newbie, are=20 Right, and in terminal mode it does still have some advantages over emacs. However, it loses the pulldown menus- which, for the newbie, are 59,61c59,61 >=20 > On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth wrote: >=20 > > On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Rossz Vámos-Wentworth wrote: > 63c63 > > From: Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth <rossw@jps.net> > > From: Rossz Vámos-Wentworth <rossw@jps.net> 69,70c69 > > time. Anyone have a recommendation? It can not be X windows based as = I > > time. Anyone have a recommendation? It can not be X windows based as I 77c76 >=20 > 79c78 >=20 > 84c83 >=20 > 86,87c85,86 >=20 >=20 > > 94c93 -Keith Bostic=20 -Keith Bostic 97d95
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1020 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 "Steve morris" <smorris@nexen.com> ha scritto nel messaggio = "Steve morris" <smorris@nexen.com> ha scritto nel messaggio 25,26c26 > I haven't spent much time analyzing this yet but here is the log. This = seems > I haven't spent much time analyzing this yet but here is the log. This seems 28,29c28,29 > but I can't remember why. I checked my 0.2.3 area and it builds fine. = I've been > but I can't remember why. I checked my 0.2.3 area and it builds fine. I've > been 45d44
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1082 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Sweet. Sorry about not figuring out the upload permission sooner. I'll=20 Sweet. Sorry about not figuring out the upload permission sooner. I'll 24c25 On Mon, 22 May 2000, Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2000, Rossz Vámos-Wentworth wrote: 27c28 > From: Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth <rwentwor@advent.com> > From: Rossz Vámos-Wentworth <rwentwor@advent.com> 30c31 >=20 > 33c34 >=20 > 35,36c36,37 >=20 >=20 > > 41c42 Someone told me there's a girl out there=20 Someone told me there's a girl out there 43c44 =09=09-Led Zeppelin, "Going to California" -Led Zeppelin, "Going to California" 46d46
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1084 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 64 Lines: 61 20,21c21,22 Long term, though, I'd like to put everything (or at least links to=20 everything) in one place on sourceforge- it'll make it much easier for=20 Long term, though, I'd like to put everything (or at least links to everything) in one place on sourceforge- it'll make it much easier for 32c33 >=20 > 34,35c35 > website there is no longer a need to place it on sourceforge or on your o= wn > website there is no longer a need to place it on sourceforge or on your own 37c37 >=20 > 39,46c39,45 > > From:=09Luis Villa [SMTP:liv@duke.edu] > > Sent:=09Monday, May 22, 2000 9:00 AM > > To:=09Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth > > Cc:=09lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos@lugnet.com > > Subject:=09Re: DJGPP/DOS legOS Howto > >=20 > > Sweet. Sorry about not figuring out the upload permission sooner. I'll= =3D20 > > From: Luis Villa [SMTP:liv@duke.edu] > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 9:00 AM > > To: Rossz Vámos-Wentworth > > Cc: lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos@lugnet.com > > Subject: Re: DJGPP/DOS legOS Howto > > > > Sweet. Sorry about not figuring out the upload permission sooner. I'll=20 49,51c48,50 > >=20 > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Rossz V=3DE1mos-Wentworth wrote: > >=20 > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth wrote: > > 53c52 > > > From: Rossz V=3DE1mos-Wentworth <rwentwor@advent.com> > > > From: Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth <rwentwor@advent.com> 56,58c55,56 > > >=3D20 > > > I've posted the howto for using the DJGPP port of GNU tools on a Wind= ows > > >=20 > > > I've posted the howto for using the DJGPP port of GNU tools on a Windows 60c58 > > >=3D20 > > >=20 62,64c60,62 > > >=3D20 > > >=3D20 > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > 66c64 > >=20 > > 68c66 > > Someone told me there's a girl out there=3D20 > > Someone told me there's a girl out there=20 70,71c68,69 > > =3D09=3D09-Led Zeppelin, "Going to California" > >=20 > > =09=09-Led Zeppelin, "Going to California" > > 73,74c71,72 >=20 >=20 > > 79c77 Someone told me there's a girl out there=20 Someone told me there's a girl out there 81c79 =09=09-Led Zeppelin, "Going to California" -Led Zeppelin, "Going to California" 84d81
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1113 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 28 Lines: 26 20,21c21,22 On Mon, 22 May 2000, Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth wrote: >=20 On Mon, 22 May 2000, Rossz Vámos-Wentworth wrote: > 24c25 >=20 > 26c27 >=20 > 28,37c29,36 Rossz-=20 I'm home for the summer (which means Windows only for now) so my deepest=20 thanks for everything :) While I'm sitting and waiting for the download to= =20 finish, I have a question. You mention that Active Perl is needed for a=20 kernel rebuild. I know that (at least in CVS) perl is no longer needed=20 for the kernel. If/when I get the files from CVS, will there be a problem= =20 building the new pre-0.2.4 kernel or should I expect it to build=20 cleanly? Also, (completely unrelated) is the inability to do Win2k a=20 Rossz- I'm home for the summer (which means Windows only for now) so my deepest thanks for everything :) While I'm sitting and waiting for the download to finish, I have a question. You mention that Active Perl is needed for a kernel rebuild. I know that (at least in CVS) perl is no longer needed for the kernel. If/when I get the files from CVS, will there be a problem building the new pre-0.2.4 kernel or should I expect it to build cleanly? Also, (completely unrelated) is the inability to do Win2k a 39c38 Luis (new HOWTO is nearly finished, BTW)=20 Luis (new HOWTO is nearly finished, BTW) 43c42 Someone told me there's a girl out there=20 Someone told me there's a girl out there 45c44 =09=09-Led Zeppelin, "Going to California" -Led Zeppelin, "Going to California" 48d46
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1155 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 "Colin Ryan" <colin.ryan@cs.tcd.ie> ha scritto nel messaggio = "Colin Ryan" <colin.ryan@cs.tcd.ie> ha scritto nel messaggio 34d34
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1169 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 24 Lines: 19 22,25c23,24 > So, when I say "upload using the Command Prompt", I meant I had to = open a MS > DOS emulation command prompt, go to the proper directory, and type in = whatever > So, when I say "upload using the Command Prompt", I meant I had to open a MS > DOS emulation command prompt, go to the proper directory, and type in whatever 27,30c26,27 > case "firmdl3 ../boot/legos.srec" and "dll ../demo/helloworld.lx". = Typing > either from the bash command prompt yeilded a "command not found" = error > case "firmdl3 ../boot/legos.srec" and "dll ../demo/helloworld.lx". Typing > either from the bash command prompt yeilded a "command not found" error 44,46c41 Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who = do. Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who do.
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1269 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 29 Lines: 27 24,26c25,27 >=20 > light =3D 146 - scaled / 7, >=20 > > light = 146 - scaled / 7, > 28c29 >=20 > 39,41c40,41 In other words, do you think that the settle time is enough? I've tested = some different values for the delay, and small changes in reading = occours. In other words, do you think that the settle time is enough? I've tested some different values for the delay, and small changes in reading occours. 43,44c43 Now going to the other discussion about implementation of ADC reading = routine. Now going to the other discussion about implementation of ADC reading routine. 49,51c48,49 Murphy's Third Law: In any field of scientific endeavor, anything that = can go wrong will go wrong. Murphy's Third Law: In any field of scientific endeavor, anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1270 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 78 Lines: 75 29,33c30,34 Yes. I hate the delay loop but we I can't imagine how to do it better if = we still need maximum speed in reading values from sensors. The routine = also change his sampling speed if we need a reading for 1, 2 or 3 = sensors and if we need to handle a rotation sensor too... This is a = price to pay for a total IRQ handling of ADC & sensors... :-((( Yes. I hate the delay loop but we I can't imagine how to do it better if we still need maximum speed in reading values from sensors. The routine also change his sampling speed if we need a reading for 1, 2 or 3 sensors and if we need to handle a rotation sensor too... This is a price to pay for a total IRQ handling of ADC & sensors... :-((( 37,38c38,39 I thought to change the routine to read all sensors in one shot, but = I've not changed the code after last patch that made it stable. I thought to change the routine to read all sensors in one shot, but I've not changed the code after last patch that made it stable. 40,41c41 > This will read the sensors very quickly, for the cost of high = interrupt > This will read the sensors very quickly, for the cost of high interrupt 45,46c45,46 Solved by settle time (but I have no digital scope to test electrical = signals). The e-mail is not aligned with actual implementation. Solved by settle time (but I have no digital scope to test electrical signals). The e-mail is not aligned with actual implementation. 48,49c48 > I doubt we need this very fast reading of sensors. This makes = implementing > I doubt we need this very fast reading of sensors. This makes implementing 52,53c51,52 I've done some projects were 1ms time for reading light values could be = a disaster... :-) I've done some projects were 1ms time for reading light values could be a disaster... :-) 57c56 >=20 > 65c64 >=20 > 67c66 >=20 > 69c68 >=20 > 73c72 >=20 > 80,81c79 > If ACTIVE_SENSORS in the sample code below is defined to 0 (the = default > If ACTIVE_SENSORS in the sample code below is defined to 0 (the default 87,88c85,86 Actual legOS implementation already turn off active sensors if not in = use or no program is run. Actual legOS implementation already turn off active sensors if not in use or no program is run. 100d97
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1297 11c11,12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 Lines: 45 Lines: 34 22,37c23,30 > There is a /lot/ of code involved, so I won't post it all, but suffice = to > say that the sensor is sampled, moves, stops, is sampled again, and = then > several seconds worth of floating point calculations are done before = the > loop is repeated. (Some printing to the LCD is done at various points = here > as well.) At some point in one of those loops, the sensor stops = responding > to new inputs. Turning the robot off and then on again, or just = restarting > the program, seems to fix the problem just fine. I've also = occasionally > noticed that it seems to be dropping counts (which was a problem = solved a > There is a /lot/ of code involved, so I won't post it all, but suffice to > say that the sensor is sampled, moves, stops, is sampled again, and then > several seconds worth of floating point calculations are done before the > loop is repeated. (Some printing to the LCD is done at various points here > as well.) At some point in one of those loops, the sensor stops responding > to new inputs. Turning the robot off and then on again, or just restarting > the program, seems to fix the problem just fine. I've also occasionally > noticed that it seems to be dropping counts (which was a problem solved a 45,51c38,40 Some part of code inside legOS disable IRQs... I'm not enough expert in = H8 to confirm that you can loose IRQ signals and to diagnose problem, = but we can investigate... Do you work with a lot of signals? You could try to call directly the = ds_handler() function when all sensors stops to see if everything = restart... Some part of code inside legOS disable IRQs... I'm not enough expert in H8 to confirm that you can loose IRQ signals and to diagnose problem, but we can investigate... 53,54c42,45 > Does anyone have any idea what could "interrupt" the sensor, or cause = it Do you work with a lot of signals? You could try to call directly the ds_handler() function when all sensors stops to see if everything restart... > Does anyone have any idea what could "interrupt" the sensor, or cause it 56,57c47 > (though it is possible that I might have missed it then) so I fear = that it > (though it is possible that I might have missed it then) so I fear that it 60,61c50,51 Some test code need to be write to catch the bug, but we are in process = to change the whole sensor sampling process...=20 Some test code need to be write to catch the bug, but we are in process to change the whole sensor sampling process... 67d56
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1320 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 628 Lines: 507 21,29c22,25 Can you send me the full loader.c and any other changes that was done to = get it to compile under Solaris?=A0 I am in the process of re-writing mos= t = of dll to be easier to read (getting rid of a lot of the ifdefs, = renaming functions, etc), but still maintaining the cross-platform = Can you send me the full loader.c and any other changes that was done to get it to compile under Solaris? I am in the process of re-writing most of dll to be easier to read (getting rid of a lot of the ifdefs, renaming functions, etc), but still maintaining the cross-platform 35,36c31 > = > 38,39c33 > = > 42,47c36,39 > = > I'm curious, what all did you change? I saw you did a cool thing to mak= e > the getopt_long work... (btw, it gave a small warning saying that opti= on_index > > I'm curious, what all did you change? I saw you did a cool thing to make > the getopt_long work... (btw, it gave a small warning saying that > option_index 51,52c43 > = > 54,55c45 > = > 57,60c47,49 > = > > > ... well.. i know that... i tried using that one before. Like you = said, it > > > > ... well.. i know that... i tried using that one before. Like you said, > > > it 62,63c51 > > = > > 65,66c53 > > = > > 70,71c57 > > = > > 76,77c62 > > = > > 79,80c64 > > * The contents of this file are subject to the Mozilla Public Licen= se > > * The contents of this file are subject to the Mozilla Public License 82,83c66 > > * compliance with the License. You may obtain a copy of the License= at > > * compliance with the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at 86,91c69,71 > > * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS I= S" > > * basis, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. S= ee the > > * License for the specific language governing rights and limitation= s > > * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" > > * basis, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the > > * License for the specific language governing rights and limitations 102,103c82 > > = > > 106,107c85 > > * Modifications to the original loader.c file for LegOS 0.2.2 inclu= de: > > * Modifications to the original loader.c file for LegOS 0.2.2 include: 109,110c87 > > * Paolo Masetti's patches to eliminate "Invalid Argument" error and= > > * Paolo Masetti's patches to eliminate "Invalid Argument" error and 113c90 > > * http://www.lugnet.com/robotics/rcx/legos/?n=3D619 > > * http://www.lugnet.com/robotics/rcx/legos/?n=619 115,116c92,93 > > * Markus L. Noga's solution to Cygwin's failure to define the O_ASY= NC symbol: > > * Markus L. Noga's solution to Cygwin's failure to define the O_ASYNC > > symbol: 118c95 > > * http://www.lugnet.com/robotics/rcx/legos/?n=3D439 > > * http://www.lugnet.com/robotics/rcx/legos/?n=439 120,125c97,101 > > * Paolo Masetti's adaptation for definitive porting to Win32. No mo= re errors in > > * serial communication and conditional compile for Winnt (cygnwin).= > > * Several addition to dll option to better support user. Execute dl= l without > > * Paolo Masetti's adaptation for definitive porting to Win32. No more > > errors in > > * serial communication and conditional compile for Winnt (cygnwin). > > * Several addition to dll option to better support user. Execute dll > > without 129,130c105 > > = > > 140,141c115 > > = > > 145,146c119 > > = > > 149,150c122 > > = > > 154,159c126,129 > > = > > #define MAX_DATA_CHUNK 0xf8 //!< maximum data bytes/packet for b= oot protocol > > #define XMIT_RETRIES 5 //!< number of packet transmit retri= es > > > > #define MAX_DATA_CHUNK 0xf8 //!< maximum data bytes/packet for > > boot protocol > > #define XMIT_RETRIES 5 //!< number of packet transmit retries 161,164c131,132 > > #define BYTE_TIME (1000*LNP_BYTE_TIME) //!< time to transmit a b= yte. > > = > > #define BYTE_TIME (1000*LNP_BYTE_TIME) //!< time to transmit a byte. > > 169,170c137 > > = > > 174,175c141 > > CMDcreate, //!< 1+12: b[nr] s[textsize] s[datasize] s[bsssi= ze] s[stacksize] s[start] b[prio] > > CMDcreate, //!< 1+12: b[nr] s[textsize] s[datasize] s[bsssize] s[stacksize] s[start] b[prio] 179c145 > > CMDirmode, //!< 1+ 1: b[0=3Dnear/1=3Dfar] > > CMDirmode, //!< 1+ 1: b[0=near/1=far] 182,183c148 > > = > > 187,188c152 > > = > > 191,193c155,156 > > = > > static const struct option long_options[]=3D{ > > > > static const struct option long_options[]={ 203,204c166 > > = > > 206,211c168,170 > > = > > #define getopt_long(ac, av, opt, lopt, lidx) (getopt((ac), (av), (opt= ))) > > = > > > > #define getopt_long(ac, av, opt, lopt, lidx) (getopt((ac), (av), (opt))) > > 213,230c172,184 > > = > > volatile int receivedAck=3D0; > > = > > volatile unsigned short relocate_to=3D0; > > = > > unsigned int rcxaddr =3D DEFAULT_DEST, > > prog =3D DEFAULT_PROGRAM, > > srcport =3D DEFAULT_SRCPORT, > > irmode =3D -1; > > = > > int run_flag=3D0; > > int verbose_flag=3D0; > > = > > > > volatile int receivedAck=0; > > > > volatile unsigned short relocate_to=0; > > > > unsigned int rcxaddr = DEFAULT_DEST, > > prog = DEFAULT_PROGRAM, > > srcport = DEFAULT_SRCPORT, > > irmode = -1; > > > > int run_flag=0; > > int verbose_flag=0; > > 232,233c186 > > = > > 238,239c191 > > = > > 243,244c195 > > = > > 252,253c203 > > = > > 257,259c207,208 > > = > > return mywrite(rcxFD(), data, length)!=3Dlength; > > > > return mywrite(rcxFD(), data, length)!=length; 261,262c210 > > = > > 266,267c214 > > int lnp_assured_write(const unsigned char *data, unsigned char length= , > > int lnp_assured_write(const unsigned char *data, unsigned char length, 272,277c219,222 > > = > > for(i=3D0; i<XMIT_RETRIES; i++) { > > receivedAck=3D0; > > = > > > > for(i=0; i<XMIT_RETRIES; i++) { > > receivedAck=0; > > 279,280c224 > > = > > 282,285c226,228 > > total=3DREPLY_TIMEOUT+length*BYTE_TIME; > > elapsed=3D0; > > = > > total=REPLY_TIMEOUT+length*BYTE_TIME; > > elapsed=0; > > 292,293c235 > > = > > 296,299c238,240 > > = > > tv.tv_sec =3D (total - elapsed) / 1000000; > > tv.tv_usec =3D (total - elapsed) % 1000000; > > > > tv.tv_sec = (total - elapsed) / 1000000; > > tv.tv_usec = (total - elapsed) % 1000000; 304,305c245 > > = > > 307c247 > > elapsed=3D1000000*(now.tv_sec - timeout.tv_sec ) + > > elapsed=1000000*(now.tv_sec - timeout.tv_sec ) + 309,310c249 > > = > > 312,313c251 > > = > > 317,318c255 > > = > > 320,321c257 > > return 0; = > > return 0; 323,324c259 > > = > > 327,328c262 > > = > > 330,332c264,265 > > = > > static struct timeval last=3D{0,0}; > > > > static struct timeval last={0,0}; 335,336c268 > > = > > 344,345c276 > > = > > 347,348c278 > > diff=3D 1000000*now .tv_sec + now .tv_usec - = > > diff= 1000000*now .tv_sec + now .tv_usec - 350,351c280 > > = > > 360c289 > > len=3Dread(rcxFD(),buffer,sizeof(buffer)); > > len=read(rcxFD(),buffer,sizeof(buffer)); 362c291 > > for(i=3D0; i<len; i++) { > > for(i=0; i<len; i++) { 369,370c298 > > = > > 374,375c302 > > = > > 379,380c306 > > = > > 389,391c315,316 > > = > > if (rcxFD() =3D=3D BADFILE) { > > > > if (rcxFD() == BADFILE) { 396,397c321 > > = > > 399,400c323 > > // = > > // 402,403c325 > > do { = > > do { 406c328 > > diff=3D1000000*(now.tv_sec - timeout.tv_sec ) + > > diff=1000000*(now.tv_sec - timeout.tv_sec ) + 408,409c330 > > = > > 412,413c333 > > PurgeComm(rcxFD(), PURGE_TXABORT | PURGE_RXABORT | PURGE_TXCLEAR | = PURGE_RXCLEAR); > > PurgeComm(rcxFD(), PURGE_TXABORT | PURGE_RXABORT | PURGE_TXCLEAR | PURGE_RXCLEAR); 418,424c338,343 > > = > > void ahandler(const unsigned char *data,unsigned char len,unsigned ch= ar src) { > > if(*data=3D=3DCMDacknowledge) { > > receivedAck=3D1; > > if(len=3D=3D8) { > > > > void ahandler(const unsigned char *data,unsigned char len,unsigned char src) > > { > > if(*data==CMDacknowledge) { > > receivedAck=1; > > if(len==8) { 427c346 > > relocate_to=3D(data[2]<<8)|data[3]; > > relocate_to=(data[2]<<8)|data[3]; 431,432c350 > > = > > 435,439c353,355 > > = > > size_t i,chunkSize,totalSize=3Dlx->text_size+lx->data_size; > > = > > > > size_t i,chunkSize,totalSize=lx->text_size+lx->data_size; > > 442,449c358,363 > > = > > buffer[0]=3DCMDdata; > > buffer[1]=3Dprog; > > = > > for(i=3D0; i<totalSize; i+=3DchunkSize) { > > chunkSize=3DtotalSize-i; > > > > buffer[0]=CMDdata; > > buffer[1]=prog; > > > > for(i=0; i<totalSize; i+=chunkSize) { > > chunkSize=totalSize-i; 451,455c365,368 > > chunkSize=3DMAX_DATA_CHUNK; > > = > > buffer[2]=3D i >> 8; > > buffer[3]=3D i & 0xff; > > chunkSize=MAX_DATA_CHUNK; > > > > buffer[2]= i >> 8; > > buffer[3]= i & 0xff; 463,464c376 > > = > > 469,477c381,387 > > = > > unsigned char buffer[256+3]=3D""; > > char *tty=3DNULL; > > = > > while((opt=3Dgetopt_long(argc, argv, "r:p:s:t:i:ev", > > (struct option *)long_options, &option_index)= )!=3D-1) { > > > > unsigned char buffer[256+3]=""; > > char *tty=NULL; > > > > while((opt=getopt_long(argc, argv, "r:p:s:t:i:ev", > > (struct option *)long_options, &option_index) )!=-1) > > { 480c390 > > run_flag=3D1; > > run_flag=1; 498c408 > > verbose_flag=3D1; > > verbose_flag=1; 501,504c411,412 > > } = > > = > > } > > 506,507c414 > > // = > > // 509,521c416,424 > > char *usage_string =3D > > " -p<prognum> , --program=3D<prognum> set destination program to= <prognum>\n" > > " -r<rcxadress>, --rcxaddr=3D<rcxadress> set RCX address to <rcxadd= ress>\n" > > " -s<srcadress>, --srcport=3D<srcadress> set RCX sourceport to <src= address>\n" > > " -t<comport> , --tty=3D<comport> set IR Tower com port <com= port>\n" > > " -i<0/1> , --irmode=3D<0/1> set IR mode near(0)/far(1)= on RCX\n" > > " -e , --execute execute program after downlo= ad\n" > > char *usage_string = > > " -p<prognum> , --program=<prognum> set destination program to <prognum>\n" > > " -r<rcxadress>, --rcxaddr=<rcxadress> set RCX address to <rcxaddress>\n" > > " -s<srcadress>, --srcport=<srcadress> set RCX sourceport to > > <srcaddress>\n" > > " -t<comport> , --tty=<comport> set IR Tower com port <comport>\n" > > " -i<0/1> , --irmode=<0/1> set IR mode near(0)/far(1) on > > RCX\n" > > " -e , --execute execute program after download\n" 525c428 > > "Eg:\tset RCXTTY=3DCOM2\n" > > "Eg:\tset RCXTTY=COM2\n" 528,529c431 > > = > > 532,533c434 > > = > > 536c437 > > filename=3Dargv[optind++]; > > filename=argv[optind++]; 538,539c439 > > fprintf(stderr,"unable to load legOS executable from %s.\n",filen= ame); > > fprintf(stderr,"unable to load legOS executable from %s.\n",filename); 542,543c442 > > = > > 545,549c444,447 > > if (buffer[0]) tty=3Dbuffer; > > if (!tty) tty =3D getenv(TTY_VARIABLE); > > if (!tty) tty =3D DEFAULTTTY; > > = > > if (buffer[0]) tty=buffer; > > if (!tty) tty = getenv(TTY_VARIABLE); > > if (!tty) tty = DEFAULTTTY; > > 551,552c449 > > = > > 555,556c452 > > = > > 558,567c454,459 > > = > > if(verbose_flag) = > > fprintf(stderr,"loader hostaddr=3D%02x hostmask=3D%02x portmask=3D= %02x\n", > > LNP_HOSTADDR & 0x00ff,LNP_HOSTMASK & 0x00ff, LNP_PORTMASK= & 0x00ff); > > = > > > > if(verbose_flag) > > fprintf(stderr,"loader hostaddr=%02x hostmask=%02x portmask=%02x\n", > > LNP_HOSTADDR & 0x00ff,LNP_HOSTMASK & 0x00ff, LNP_PORTMASK & > > 0x00ff); > > 569,571c461,463 > > if (irmode !=3D -1) { > > buffer[0]=3DCMDirmode; > > buffer[1]=3Dirmode; > > if (irmode != -1) { > > buffer[0]=CMDirmode; > > buffer[1]=irmode; 577,578c469 > > = > > 581,582c472,473 > > buffer[0]=3DCMDdelete; > > buffer[1]=3Dprog; // prog 0 > > buffer[0]=CMDdelete; > > buffer[1]=prog; // prog 0 587,588c478 > > = > > 591,604c481,493 > > buffer[ 0]=3DCMDcreate; > > buffer[ 1]=3Dprog; // prog 0 > > buffer[ 2]=3Dlx.text_size>>8; > > buffer[ 3]=3Dlx.text_size & 0xff; > > buffer[ 4]=3Dlx.data_size>>8; > > buffer[ 5]=3Dlx.data_size & 0xff; > > buffer[ 6]=3Dlx.bss_size>>8; > > buffer[ 7]=3Dlx.bss_size & 0xff; > > buffer[ 8]=3Dlx.stack_size>>8; > > buffer[ 9]=3Dlx.stack_size & 0xff; > > buffer[10]=3Dlx.offset >> 8; // start offset from text segment > > buffer[11]=3Dlx.offset & 0xff; = > > buffer[12]=3DDEFAULT_PRIORITY; > > buffer[ 0]=CMDcreate; > > buffer[ 1]=prog; // prog 0 > > buffer[ 2]=lx.text_size>>8; > > buffer[ 3]=lx.text_size & 0xff; > > buffer[ 4]=lx.data_size>>8; > > buffer[ 5]=lx.data_size & 0xff; > > buffer[ 6]=lx.bss_size>>8; > > buffer[ 7]=lx.bss_size & 0xff; > > buffer[ 8]=lx.stack_size>>8; > > buffer[ 9]=lx.stack_size & 0xff; > > buffer[10]=lx.offset >> 8; // start offset from text segment > > buffer[11]=lx.offset & 0xff; > > buffer[12]=DEFAULT_PRIORITY; 609,610c498 > > = > > 614,615c502 > > = > > 617,618c504 > > = > > 622,623c508,509 > > buffer[0]=3DCMDrun; > > buffer[1]=3Dprog; // prog 0 > > buffer[0]=CMDrun; > > buffer[1]=prog; // prog 0 629,630c515 > > = > > 633,636c518,519 > > = > = > > > 639,642c522,523 > = > (Frodo:) "I don't want to answer a string of questions while I am = > > (Frodo:) "I don't want to answer a string of questions while I am 644,648c525,526 > = > = > >
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1378 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 35 Lines: 31 20,25c21,23 > > > RCX_COMPILER is an internal gcc/egcs define, when patched = correctly to > > > support RCX interrupts. This is still used and useful, as it saves = only > > > the required registers, unlike the HANDLER_WRAPPER macro, which = saves > > > RCX_COMPILER is an internal gcc/egcs define, when patched correctly to > > > support RCX interrupts. This is still used and useful, as it saves only > > > the required registers, unlike the HANDLER_WRAPPER macro, which saves 27,29c25,26 > >=20 > > Do you know if RCX_COMPILER patch need to be used in GCC 2.95.2 = cross > > > > Do you know if RCX_COMPILER patch need to be used in GCC 2.95.2 cross 31c28 >=20 > 36,37c33,34 1) I've compiled gcc-2.95.2 for h8300-hitachi-hms using cygnwin and it = works. :-) 1) I've compiled gcc-2.95.2 for h8300-hitachi-hms using cygnwin and it works. :-) 39,40c36,37 3) I'm still gettind some warnings (but it works well, does some = warnings appear on Linux too?) 3) I'm still gettind some warnings (but it works well, does some warnings appear on Linux too?) 43,44c40,41 I will partially rewrite the Windows how-to to include gcc-2.95.2 = compiler (and eventually precompiled binaries). I will partially rewrite the Windows how-to to include gcc-2.95.2 compiler (and eventually precompiled binaries). 46,47c43,44 BTW anyone needs precompiled h8300-hitachi-hms gcc 2.95.2 for = Windows/cygnwin? :-) BTW anyone needs precompiled h8300-hitachi-hms gcc 2.95.2 for Windows/cygnwin? :-) 53c50 famous programmer quotation: "It actually works, it just doesn't look=20 famous programmer quotation: "It actually works, it just doesn't look 55,56d51
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1380 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 39 Lines: 33 20,21c21 > > 1) I've compiled gcc-2.95.2 for h8300-hitachi-hms using cygnwin and = it > > 1) I've compiled gcc-2.95.2 for h8300-hitachi-hms using cygnwin and it 23,27c23,25 >=20 > cool. Which Cygwin, though? It'd be really nice if we could "move up" = to > Cygwin 1.0, which is a lot easier to install than the beta version we = use. > > cool. Which Cygwin, though? It'd be really nice if we could "move up" to > Cygwin 1.0, which is a lot easier to install than the beta version we use. 33c31 >=20 > 35,36c33 > errors or not. You can look in the HOWTO to see which errors "should" = be > errors or not. You can look in the HOWTO to see which errors "should" be 41,42c38 > Thankgfully, no- since I'm moving back home, and going back to Linux = full > Thankgfully, no- since I'm moving back home, and going back to Linux full 44c40 > yesterday.=20 > yesterday. 48,49c44 > We can definitely post the new stuff on sourceforge- just give the = word. > We can definitely post the new stuff on sourceforge- just give the word. 51,52c46,47 First, I would like my name corrected in /HOWTO... ;-))) Massetti --> = Masetti... ;-))) First, I would like my name corrected in /HOWTO... ;-))) Massetti --> Masetti... ;-))) 59,60d53
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1387 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22,23c23,24 On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Rossz [iso-8859-1] V=E1mos-Wentworth wrote: >=20 On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Rossz [iso-8859-1] Vámos-Wentworth wrote: > 26c27 >=20 > 28,29c29,30 >=20 >=20 > > 33,36c34,37 =09 "Summertime... and the living is easy... =09 fish are jumping and the cotton is high... =09 So hush, little baby, baby don't you cry." =09=09=09=09=09-Ella "Summertime... and the living is easy... fish are jumping and the cotton is high... So hush, little baby, baby don't you cry." -Ella 39d39
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1390 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 21 Lines: 19 20,21c21 > Right. Though it would be good to write them down (like in the HOWTO) = so > Right. Though it would be good to write them down (like in the HOWTO) so 24,25c24,25 I want to make a script for doing all the dirty job and rivise HOWTO to = include the whole proccess. :-) I want to make a script for doing all the dirty job and rivise HOWTO to include the whole proccess. :-) 27,29c27,28 Now I'm in trouble with a very simple diff file that when applied with = patch.exe generates a CR-LF file that is not "compatible" with gcc = compile... :-( Now I'm in trouble with a very simple diff file that when applied with patch.exe generates a CR-LF file that is not "compatible" with gcc compile... :-( 33,34c32,33 BTW, The patch is for RCX_COMPILER defines... It's not absolutely = needed, but I would like to include the whole solution... :-) BTW, The patch is for RCX_COMPILER defines... It's not absolutely needed, but I would like to include the whole solution... :-) 41,42d39
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1429 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 52 Lines: 50 32c33 still broken.=20 still broken. 43c44 >=20 > 47c48 >=20 > 49,51c50,51 > _________________________________________________________________________= ________________ >=20 > _________________________________________________________________________________________ > 54c54 >=20 > 59,63c59,62 > Espa=F1a - Spain > _________________________________________________________________________= ________________ >=20 >=20 > España - Spain > _________________________________________________________________________________________ > > 66,67c65,66 =09=20 "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition anymore.=20 "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition anymore. 69c68 =09WordPerfect manager, talking about Word WordPerfect manager, talking about Word 72d70
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1463 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 54 Lines: 51 32,37c33,38 >=20 >=20 > lugnet wouldn't take my news-posting, so I'll forward this to you by=20 > mail instead. Sorry about that.=20 >=20 >=20 > > > lugnet wouldn't take my news-posting, so I'll forward this to you by > mail instead. Sorry about that. > > 39,43c40,42 > >=20 > > Well, I'd hope it is not the distribution. However, it is possible- Red= Hat > > 7.0 uses a "new" compiler version (egcs 2.96) that has been known to ca= use > > > > Well, I'd hope it is not the distribution. However, it is possible- RedHat > > 7.0 uses a "new" compiler version (egcs 2.96) that has been known to cause 46c45 >=20 > 49,55c48,53 >=20 > Modify the following line in util/dll-src/convert.c (close to the end):= =20 >=20 > if(argc-optind<3 || lx.text_size=3D=3D0) {=20 >=20 > to=20 > > Modify the following line in util/dll-src/convert.c (close to the end): > > if(argc-optind<3 || lx.text_size==0) { > > to 57c55 >=20 > 59,65c57,63 > is checked.=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =09// John Markus Bj=F8rndalen >=20 >=20 > is checked. > > > -- > // John Markus Bjørndalen > > 68,69c66,67 =09=20 "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition anymore.=20 "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition anymore. 71c69 =09WordPerfect manager, talking about Word WordPerfect manager, talking about Word 74d71
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1464 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 76 Lines: 73 31c32 >=20 > 36c37 >=20 > 38c39 >=20 > 44,49c45,50 > >=20 > >=20 > > lugnet wouldn't take my news-posting, so I'll forward this to you by=20 > > mail instead. Sorry about that.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > > > > > lugnet wouldn't take my news-posting, so I'll forward this to you by > > mail instead. Sorry about that. > > > > 51,55c52,54 > > >=20 > > > Well, I'd hope it is not the distribution. However, it is possible- R= edHat > > > 7.0 uses a "new" compiler version (egcs 2.96) that has been known to = cause > > > > > > Well, I'd hope it is not the distribution. However, it is possible- RedHat > > > 7.0 uses a "new" compiler version (egcs 2.96) that has been known to cause 58c57 > >=20 > > 61,67c60,65 > >=20 > > Modify the following line in util/dll-src/convert.c (close to the end):= =20 > >=20 > > if(argc-optind<3 || lx.text_size=3D=3D0) {=20 > >=20 > > to=20 > > > > Modify the following line in util/dll-src/convert.c (close to the end): > > > > if(argc-optind<3 || lx.text_size==0) { > > > > to 69c67 > >=20 > > 71,78c69,76 > > is checked.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > > =09// John Markus Bj=F8rndalen > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > > is checked. > > > > > > -- > > // John Markus Bjørndalen > > > > > 80,81c78,79 > =09=20 > "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition anymore.=20 > > "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition anymore. 83,84c81,82 > =09WordPerfect manager, talking about Word >=20 > WordPerfect manager, talking about Word > 86,87c84,85 >=20 >=20 > > 90,91c88,89 =09=20 "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition anymore.=20 "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition anymore. 93c91 =09WordPerfect manager, talking about Word WordPerfect manager, talking about Word 96d93
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1517 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 212 Lines: 201 41,42c42 other RCX's. = other RCX's. 45,46c45 with dsensor-new.c instead of dsensor.c everything works as expected. = with dsensor-new.c instead of dsensor.c everything works as expected. 50,51c49 with active sensors? = with active sensors? 53c51 Greetings Carsten M=FCller Greetings Carsten Müller 58,60c56,57 /* Kleiner test f=FCr den Trycicle OfficeRunner * = /* Kleiner test für den Trycicle OfficeRunner * 81c78 #define TURNTABLE_CIRCUMFLEX 56 // anzahl der Z=E4hne :) #define TURNTABLE_CIRCUMFLEX 56 // anzahl der Zähne :) 84,85c81,82 volatile MotorDirection drive_direction =3D brake; volatile MotorDirection turn_direction =3D brake; volatile MotorDirection drive_direction = brake; volatile MotorDirection turn_direction = brake; 116c113 return ROTATION_3<=3D(int)ticks; return ROTATION_3<=(int)ticks; 118c115 return ROTATION_3>=3D(int)ticks; return ROTATION_3>=(int)ticks; 131,132c128,129 if(cm=3D=3D0){ drive_direction=3Dbrake; if(cm==0){ drive_direction=brake; 135c132 drive_direction=3Dfwd; drive_direction=fwd; 137,139c134,135 drive_direction=3Drev; = drive_direction=rev; 141c137 ticks_to_go=3Dcm_to_ticks(cm); ticks_to_go=cm_to_ticks(cm); 146c142 drive_direction=3Dbrake; drive_direction=brake; 153c149 return ROTATION_1>=3D(int)ticks; return ROTATION_1>=(int)ticks; 155c151 return ROTATION_1<=3D(int)ticks; return ROTATION_1<=(int)ticks; 166,167c162,163 int act_tick=3DROTATION_1; int diff=3D0; int act_tick=ROTATION_1; int diff=0; 170c166 ticks_to_steer=3Ddeg_to_ticks(deg); ticks_to_steer=deg_to_ticks(deg); 172c168 diff=3Dticks_to_steer-act_tick; diff=ticks_to_steer-act_tick; 175,176c171,172 if(diff=3D=3D0){ turn_direction=3Dbrake; if(diff==0){ turn_direction=brake; 179c175 turn_direction=3Dfwd; turn_direction=fwd; 181,183c177,178 turn_direction=3Drev; = turn_direction=rev; 188c183 turn_direction=3Dbrake; turn_direction=brake; 206,209c201,202 = ds_rotation_set(&SENSOR_3,0); = ds_rotation_set(&SENSOR_3,0); 211,212c204 = 216,217c208 = 221,222c212 =
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1518 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Carsten M=FCller wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Carsten Müller wrote: 26c27 >=20 > 31c32 >=20 > 41,42c42,43 > other RCX's.=20 >=20 > other RCX's. > 44,45c45,46 > with dsensor-new.c instead of dsensor.c everything works as expected.=20 >=20 > with dsensor-new.c instead of dsensor.c everything works as expected. > 48c49 > with active sensors?=20 > with active sensors? 62c63 --=20 -- 67d67
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1584 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Rossz V=E1mos-Wentworth wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Rossz Vámos-Wentworth wrote: 25c26 >=20 > 27,28c28,29 > contains ascii codes for for hex bytes, a pair of characters would be one= byte. > contains ascii codes for for hex bytes, a pair of characters would be one > byte. 33c34 --=20 -- 38d38
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1595 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 48 Lines: 41 23,26c24,25 Don't have much information about this section yet, anyone who can shed = some light on what LNP functions are present and how they work, please let me = know. Don't have much information about this section yet, anyone who can shed some light on what LNP functions are present and how they work, please let me know. 31,32c30 Parameter: i sets Range for IR: 0 =3D Short Range, 1 =3D Long = Range Parameter: i sets Range for IR: 0 = Short Range, 1 = Long Range 37,38c35 Parameter: buf string of length len is written to the IR Port: = lnp- Parameter: buf string of length len is written to the IR Port: lnp- 42,45c39,40 So does anyone know how to send and more important to me how to recieve. = I was looking through some of the source and it looks like it has kept the = NQC So does anyone know how to send and more important to me how to recieve. I was looking through some of the source and it looks like it has kept the NQC 50,51c45 Well if anyone understands this please send me some sample code of 2 = rcxs Well if anyone understands this please send me some sample code of 2 rcxs
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:1802 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 33 Lines: 29 21,22c22 > Did you ever get any help with your question (below)? I'm trying to use = the > Did you ever get any help with your question (below)? I'm trying to use the 28c28 > In lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, Hannes Naud=E9 writes: > In lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, Hannes Naudé writes: 31,32c31 > >Is there any way to switch the IR LED on and leave it on. (as a kind of = a > >Is there any way to switch the IR LED on and leave it on. (as a kind of a 35,38c34,36 > >Alternatively, what is the easiest way to just send a comtinuous string = of 0's > >so it's on at least a lot of the time, without taking all the processor = time. > >Alternatively, what is the easiest way to just send a comtinuous string of > >0's > >so it's on at least a lot of the time, without taking all the processor time. 40,41c38 > >blocking function so control only returns after the IR is allready off a= gain. > >blocking function so control only returns after the IR is allready off again. 47c44 --=20 -- 52d48
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lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:2825 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,22c22,23 I just installed the latest version of cygwin, and downloaded binutils = 2.12. I am wondering what version of gcc I should download, thanks. I just installed the latest version of cygwin, and downloaded binutils 2.12. I am wondering what version of gcc I should download, thanks.
lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc:261 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 31 Lines: 29 32c33 There were a lot of changes (including your until <=3D> wait example). There were a lot of changes (including your until <=> wait example). 34,38c35,37 >I recently received The Unofficial Guide to LEGO=C6 MINDSTORMS=F4 Robots >By Jonathan B. Knudsen. When I downloaded the programs off the internet t= o >use with the book, they would not compile. I had to change a lot of the c= ode >I recently received The Unofficial Guide to LEGOÆ MINDSTORMSô Robots >By Jonathan B. Knudsen. When I downloaded the programs off the internet to >use with the book, they would not compile. I had to change a lot of the code 51d49
lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc:746 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 22 Lines: 20 24c25 On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Tobias M=F6ller wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Tobias Möller wrote: 26,29c27,29 > I have an iBook. I know about NQC and decided to give it a try. I thought= "hey, > it works for mac! Great! I can install it on my iBook, run it, and then I= can > I have an iBook. I know about NQC and decided to give it a try. I thought > "hey, > it works for mac! Great! I can install it on my iBook, run it, and then I can 31,39c31,38 >=20 > The iBook only has a USB port, no serial ports. Is it possible to connect= the IR > Tower to a USB port, without having too much trouble, or damaging the USB= port? > Will NQC know that I use a USB port? Can I get an adapter? Is it expensiv= e? >=20 >=20 > > The iBook only has a USB port, no serial ports. Is it possible to connect the > IR > Tower to a USB port, without having too much trouble, or damaging the USB > port? > Will NQC know that I use a USB port? Can I get an adapter? Is it expensive? > > 42d40
lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc:749 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Tobias [iso-8859-1] M=F6ller wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Tobias [iso-8859-1] Möller wrote: 35d35
lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc:883 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 43 Lines: 37 20,23c21,22 > I am currently working on a program that will monitor where a RCX goes.= I > am trying to establish a coordinate system so if it finds a light it ca= n > I am currently working on a program that will monitor where a RCX goes. I > am trying to establish a coordinate system so if it finds a light it can 25,26c24 > revolutions, but then I am worried about how to handle bouncing off of = a > revolutions, but then I am worried about how to handle bouncing off of a 35,36c33 > 3. Teach the robot to make a 360=B0 turn. Then let it do a 90=B0 turn 8= times in > 3. Teach the robot to make a 360° turn. Then let it do a 90° turn 8 times in 45,46c42 environment. = environment. 51,52c47 to do so i.e. the fox. = to do so i.e. the fox.
lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc:1292 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21,23c22,24 I`m just starting to use Lego Dacta products and I have one doubt:=20 can I use NQC with other lego interfaces such as the 9751 kit, or=20 does NQC only work with RCX? I need to know that becuase here in the=20 I`m just starting to use Lego Dacta products and I have one doubt: can I use NQC with other lego interfaces such as the 9751 kit, or does NQC only work with RCX? I need to know that becuase here in the
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lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc:1434 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,20c20,21 I=B4m new at this plave, but I=B4ve been building with RCX for a while. = Wanted to share my things and maybe get some opinions :-) I´m new at this plave, but I´ve been building with RCX for a while. Wanted to share my things and maybe get some opinions :-)
lugnet.scala:108 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 In the Lego catalog of 1997, I saw some adorable sets of Lego Scala = which have never been available in The Netherlands.=20 Does anybody know how to order them ?=20 In the Lego catalog of 1997, I saw some adorable sets of Lego Scala which have never been available in The Netherlands. Does anybody know how to order them ? 25,26c26,27 I am also intrested in some "old" Lego Belville sets, these numbers are: = 5824, 5821, 5853, 5822, 5855, 5875, 5874. I am also intrested in some "old" Lego Belville sets, these numbers are: 5824, 5821, 5853, 5822, 5855, 5875, 5874. 33c34 Estelle@zonnet.nl=20 Estelle@zonnet.nl
lugnet.space:110 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 69c70 becoming more and more apparent.=20 becoming more and more apparent. 78c79 have genuine complaints about the set themes we do collect.=20 have genuine complaints about the set themes we do collect. 125c126 numbers of AFOL since Mindstorms and Star Wars sets being released?=20 numbers of AFOL since Mindstorms and Star Wars sets being released? 244d244
lugnet.space:361 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 98 Lines: 97 55,56c56 >of a supertanker. In other words, even if they magically got all of the = best >of a supertanker. In other words, even if they magically got all of the best 90c90 realization of this. =20 realization of this. 110c110 =46or all these reasons and more, I have dropped my slash & burn For all these reasons and more, I have dropped my slash & burn 118d117
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lugnet.space:390 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 50 Lines: 47 20,22c21,22 >Websters gives it as 1pc =3D 3.27ly >It's the distance an ange of one minute subtends at a distance of one = au. >Websters gives it as 1pc = 3.27ly >It's the distance an ange of one minute subtends at a distance of one au. 26,29c26,27 >Don't be afraid of a little trig. au means astronomical unit. Lookit = up. >Would you like to know how to derive a parsec conversion number for = yourself? >Don't be afraid of a little trig. au means astronomical unit. Lookit up. >Would you like to know how to derive a parsec conversion number for yourself? 70d67
lugnet.space:496 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 27 Lines: 25 18,19c19 I love it too! Blacktron I has got to be the coolest, darkest set there= is. The I love it too! Blacktron I has got to be the coolest, darkest set there is. The 28c28 "Tobias M=F6ller" <tobias.moller@telia.com> on 11/13/99 08:52:21 PM "Tobias Möller" <tobias.moller@telia.com> on 11/13/99 08:52:21 PM 36d35 =
lugnet.space:6970 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 108 Lines: 105 21,29c22,30 As some of you know, James Davis and I have been in a three year = long war between the Blacktron Empire = (http://www.icounsel.com/blacktron/ ) and the Alliance of Planets = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/alliance-of-planets.html . = During that time, his site has grown by leaps and bounds, and the dust = upon mine has grown by leaps and bounds ; ). However, I have started to = finally update the site, slowly and surely. I have placed a link on the = old website, and have started to work on the new one. I updated my logo = on my old website, at least. here are the links to that: As some of you know, James Davis and I have been in a three year long war between the Blacktron Empire (http://www.icounsel.com/blacktron/ ) and the Alliance of Planets http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/alliance-of-planets.html . During that time, his site has grown by leaps and bounds, and the dust upon mine has grown by leaps and bounds ; ). However, I have started to finally update the site, slowly and surely. I have placed a link on the old website, and have started to work on the new one. I updated my logo on my old website, at least. here are the links to that: 37,54c38,54 Most of the links do not work as of yet, I have been using Frontpage to = get things together, and I do not have access to that at work anymore, = so I have to do it at home. : ( I do miss my old job at AEI a lot at = times, as Black & Veatch does not let you put anything on your computer) My plans are to revamp all sections of the old page, with new = arrangements of pictures, new pictures, MLCad files for my custom = fighters, Armored vehicles, etc. as well as detailed histories of all = the members. I will also be clarifying a lot of the fuzzy items, such as = the Alliance of Planets structure, history, the Exploriens, the SP, and = the like.=20 I have also added some pictures I will be incorporating in the near = future, I felt like doing something last night, here is the list if you = would like to look: =20 This picture will be on the AP starting page somewhere, I need to work = on it, but it is a decent start. Most of the links do not work as of yet, I have been using Frontpage to get things together, and I do not have access to that at work anymore, so I have to do it at home. : ( I do miss my old job at AEI a lot at times, as Black & Veatch does not let you put anything on your computer) My plans are to revamp all sections of the old page, with new arrangements of pictures, new pictures, MLCad files for my custom fighters, Armored vehicles, etc. as well as detailed histories of all the members. I will also be clarifying a lot of the fuzzy items, such as the Alliance of Planets structure, history, the Exploriens, the SP, and the like. I have also added some pictures I will be incorporating in the near future, I felt like doing something last night, here is the list if you would like to look: This picture will be on the AP starting page somewhere, I need to work on it, but it is a decent start. 57,59c57,58 Here are some main members heroes / leaders. I will have a page for each = of these members, with complete bios / histories, etc. Here are some = teasers: Here are some main members heroes / leaders. I will have a page for each of these members, with complete bios / histories, etc. Here are some teasers: 61c60 Here is the current president of the Alliance of Planets, former General = Here is the current president of the Alliance of Planets, former General 71,72c70,71 Here is the General Commander of the TPA Special Forces (Work in = Progrss), Jeff Little 8th. Here is the General Commander of the TPA Special Forces (Work in Progrss), Jeff Little 8th. 75,76c74,75 Here is the Admiral of one of the members, the Icronian Consortium = Military, Admiral Norveska Shimiz: Here is the Admiral of one of the members, the Icronian Consortium Military, Admiral Norveska Shimiz: 79,80c78,79 Here is the General Commander of the Space Police, the law enforcement = agency of the AP, Johua Beson: Here is the General Commander of the Space Police, the law enforcement agency of the AP, Johua Beson: 92,93c91,92 I will be adding more and more as the weeks go on, you can check the = updates on the site itself, and the war updates at B-net, which is here: = I will be adding more and more as the weeks go on, you can check the updates on the site itself, and the war updates at B-net, which is here: 96,97c95,96 Any comments, ideas, etc. can be directed here in space, or personally = at ssanburn@cleawnweb.net. Any comments, ideas, etc. can be directed here in space, or personally at ssanburn@cleawnweb.net. 103,105c102,103 LEGO Index Page: = http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for=20 LEGO Index Page: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Visit The Sanburn Systems Company for
lugnet.space:13225 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 30 Lines: 28 21,24c22,24 Very, very nice MOC. I spotted this on brickshelf and admired it, not = noticing that it was yours. Therefore I am certain that the opinion was = not biased towards a club member when I formed the opinion. Keep 'em = coming! Very, very nice MOC. I spotted this on brickshelf and admired it, not noticing that it was yours. Therefore I am certain that the opinion was not biased towards a club member when I formed the opinion. Keep 'em coming! 30,31c30 After seeing how neat of a cockpit the Duplo Egg was, I aquired one for = myself, After seeing how neat of a cockpit the Duplo Egg was, I aquired one for myself, 34c33 http://www.ozbricks.com/brickcentral/space.html=20 http://www.ozbricks.com/brickcentral/space.html 45,47c44,46 MichLUG - http://www.michlug.org/=20 Lego Page - http://www.ozbricks.com/brickcentral/=20 Bricklink Store - http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=3Djrspears=20 MichLUG - http://www.michlug.org/ Lego Page - http://www.ozbricks.com/brickcentral/ Bricklink Store - http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=jrspears 49d47
lugnet.space:16857 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 35 Lines: 31 22,29c23,26 >Why don't you think the Romans had war chariots? Or do you mean they = just >didn't call them "war chariots" but something else. I'm pretty sure the= Romans >had a military chariot. As for the ruts in paved road, it can happen. = I've >seen ruts several inches deep in solid rock caused by the repetitive = erosion >Why don't you think the Romans had war chariots? Or do you mean they just >didn't call them "war chariots" but something else. I'm pretty sure the Romans >had a military chariot. As for the ruts in paved road, it can happen. I've >seen ruts several inches deep in solid rock caused by the repetitive erosion 47c44 =20 55d51
lugnet.space:18809 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 27 19c20 Both the Phoenix and the 1rover1 are very good.=20 Both the Phoenix and the 1rover1 are very good. 29c30 >=20 > 31c32 >=20 > 33c34 >=20 > 35,37c36,38 >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3D44682 >=20 > > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=44682 > 39,40c40,41 >=20 --=20 > -- 42,48c43,46 easy to play the clown when you've >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. =20 got to run the whole circus. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ = =20 stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.')=20 stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL = =20 easy to play the clown when you've >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. got to run the whole circus. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL
lugnet.space:18810 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 28 Lines: 26 21c22 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1781912405&rd=3D1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1781912405&rd=1 32,34c33,35 >=20 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1785168766 >=20 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1785168766 > 38,39c39,40 >=20 --=20 > -- 41,47c42,45 easy to play the clown when you've >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. =20 got to run the whole circus. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ = =20 stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.')=20 stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL = =20 easy to play the clown when you've >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. got to run the whole circus. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL
lugnet.space:18890 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 39c40 --=20 -- 41,45c42,45 words or less. >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. =20 Kid: Yeah, that will be easy. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ =20 stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.')=20 stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL =20 words or less. >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. Kid: Yeah, that will be easy. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL
lugnet.space:20916 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 35,38c36,39 > I would encourage everyone to post a symbol of unity and condolences to t= he family of STS-107 on their web sites. Let's > show our LUGNET and LEGO community support. The STS-107 Patch can be fou= nd here: > I would encourage everyone to post a symbol of unity and condolences to the > family of STS-107 on their web sites. Let's > show our LUGNET and LEGO community support. The STS-107 Patch can be found > here: 40,45c41,45 Conformity: Proudly (\`--/') _ _______ .-r-. =20 serving painfully boring >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. =20 people since time began. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ =20 stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') =20 stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL =20 Conformity: Proudly (\`--/') _ _______ .-r-. serving painfully boring >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. people since time began. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL
lugnet.space:20938 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 14 Lines: 13 24c25 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3D313902 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=313902 26,27c27 "Chris Giddens" <cgidd1@aol.com> wrote in message = news:H9qM5E.AK5@lugnet.com... "Chris Giddens" <cgidd1@aol.com> wrote in message news:H9qM5E.AK5@lugnet.com... 29c29 >=20 > 31,33c31,33 >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D32911 >=20 > > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=32911 > 35c35 >=20 > 37d36
lugnet.space:20958 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 29 Lines: 21 23,28c24,26 "Chris Giddens" <cgidd1@aol.com> wrote in message = news:H9sH4D.JvB@lugnet.com... > Ok, here's a good question. If we had gotten an X-wing set as a kid, = would > we have treasured it as much as say a Space Cruiser 924 (487)? The = X-wing, "Chris Giddens" <cgidd1@aol.com> wrote in message news:H9sH4D.JvB@lugnet.com... > Ok, here's a good question. If we had gotten an X-wing set as a kid, would > we have treasured it as much as say a Space Cruiser 924 (487)? The X-wing, 30,37c28,31 > storyline. Same Characters, same universe. But the Space Cruiser = (IMO) is > a blank canvas. New universe every day, New character every day. = Would > that be more inspiring to creativity and more memorable in our = childhood? > Is semi-closed ended theme yet familiar sets better than an open = ended theme? > storyline. Same Characters, same universe. But the Space Cruiser (IMO) is > a blank canvas. New universe every day, New character every day. Would > that be more inspiring to creativity and more memorable in our childhood? > Is semi-closed ended theme yet familiar sets better than an open ended theme? 41c35 Well spoken. =20 Well spoken. 45,46c39 When I joined the US Air Force in 1986, I neglected to take them with = me. When I joined the US Air Force in 1986, I neglected to take them with me. 48c41 I am still very much in favor of minifig sets, as they allow for = I am still very much in favor of minifig sets, as they allow for 52d44
lugnet.space:21353 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25c26 As near as I can tell, it would mean examining each post and copying the = As near as I can tell, it would mean examining each post and copying the 30,31c31,32 X_LR8R@hotmail.com=20 "Paul Hartzog" <panarchy23@yahoo.com> wrote in message = X_LR8R@hotmail.com "Paul Hartzog" <panarchy23@yahoo.com> wrote in message 36c37 >=20 > 40c41 >=20 > 42c43 >=20 > 44d44
lugnet.space:21358 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 44 Lines: 36 23,24c24 Make the giant turtle on which the disk rides travel in a different = direction. Make the giant turtle on which the disk rides travel in a different direction. 27,28c27,28 Since the world is attached to the hub by cable, simply fire the control = engines in the hub. Since the world is attached to the hub by cable, simply fire the control engines in the hub. 31,33c31,33 Ok...the whole molten core and thin rock surface thing...maybe we could = create some small degree of control in the moons direction and use that = to influence the Earth's. (Does the moon have a molten core?) Ok...the whole molten core and thin rock surface thing...maybe we could create some small degree of control in the moons direction and use that to influence the Earth's. (Does the moon have a molten core?) 38,43c38,40 "Jon Palmer" <jon@zemi.net> wrote in message = news:HABBIM.81H@lugnet.com... > Unlike my earlier post about the cables and reels, this does not = directly > have anything to do with an upcoming MOC, but I thought it would be a = fun "Jon Palmer" <jon@zemi.net> wrote in message news:HABBIM.81H@lugnet.com... > Unlike my earlier post about the cables and reels, this does not directly > have anything to do with an upcoming MOC, but I thought it would be a fun 45,49c42,44 >=20 > Now moving a giant body from one place to another is obviously a sci = fi > staple, so I expect a lot of references to various books, but it would = also > > Now moving a giant body from one place to another is obviously a sci fi > staple, so I expect a lot of references to various books, but it would also 51,53c46,47 >=20 > For visual impact I keep imagining city sized thrusters spaced out = evenly > > For visual impact I keep imagining city sized thrusters spaced out evenly 55,57c49,50 > covering the whole planet, pulled on the other side by some space = tugs. >=20 > covering the whole planet, pulled on the other side by some space tugs. > 59c52 >=20 > 64,67c57,59 > http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=3Djpalmer >=20 >=20 > http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=jpalmer > >
lugnet.space:21370 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 30,31c31,32 X_LR8R@hotmail.com=20 "Tony Knaak" <tknaaker@hotmail.com> wrote in message = X_LR8R@hotmail.com "Tony Knaak" <tknaaker@hotmail.com> wrote in message 34c35 >=20 > 38,39d38
lugnet.space:21372 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 21 Lines: 19 24,26c25,26 You're right, of course. They are "*really* important buttons," and not = lamps. Well worth the wait.=20 You're right, of course. They are "*really* important buttons," and not lamps. Well worth the wait. 29,31c29,30 X_LR8R@hotmail.com=20 "Jon Palmer" <jon@zemi.net> wrote in message = news:HAFzoy.MCv@lugnet.com... X_LR8R@hotmail.com "Jon Palmer" <jon@zemi.net> wrote in message news:HAFzoy.MCv@lugnet.com... 33c32 >=20 > 35c34 >=20 > 41,44c40,42 > | Store - http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=3Djpalmer >=20 >=20 > | Store - http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=jpalmer > >
lugnet.space:21389 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23,26c24,27 The 1x2 tile is held between the 2 ea. "brick 1x1 with handle" and the = darker sub-assembly. I do not have the pieces to check the real-world construction, though it = looks great in the virtual. The 1x2 tile is held between the 2 ea. "brick 1x1 with handle" and the darker sub-assembly. I do not have the pieces to check the real-world construction, though it looks great in the virtual. 31d31
lugnet.space:21401 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 38 Lines: 34 25,28c26,28 I understand the spirit in which the feedback was given, and am *not* = offended. I wonder if I could extend the Slider by one stud toward the 1x2 tile, = and use a 2x tile under 4ea Brick 1x1 with handle... I understand the spirit in which the feedback was given, and am *not* offended. I wonder if I could extend the Slider by one stud toward the 1x2 tile, and use a 2x tile under 4ea Brick 1x1 with handle... 31,32c31 "DaveG" <peagreen@intergate.ca> wrote in message = news:HAHw9p.J8z@lugnet.com... "DaveG" <peagreen@intergate.ca> wrote in message news:HAHw9p.J8z@lugnet.com... 35,36c34 > >The 1x2 tile is held between the 2 ea. "brick 1x1 with handle" and = the =3D > >The 1x2 tile is held between the 2 ea. "brick 1x1 with handle" and the = 38,39c36 > >I do not have the pieces to check the real-world construction, though = it =3D > >I do not have the pieces to check the real-world construction, though it = 45,46c42,43 >=20 >=20 > > 48c45 >=20 > 53c50 >=20 > 57,58c54,55 >=20 >=20 > > 61d57
lugnet.space:21557 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 82 Lines: 56 25,30c26,30 I feel great when seeing something from the less-commonly-used space = sub-themes. (I do still love the official Blacktron and Classic as well as the = unofficial Pre-Classic Space.) Because of the size of my collection (limited because of the size of my = family), I love the whole CAD thing too. I feel great when seeing something from the less-commonly-used space sub-themes. (I do still love the official Blacktron and Classic as well as the unofficial Pre-Classic Space.) Because of the size of my collection (limited because of the size of my family), I love the whole CAD thing too. 35c35 "Jeff Szklennik" <jeffszklennik@usaexpress.net> wrote in message = "Jeff Szklennik" <jeffszklennik@usaexpress.net> wrote in message 37,38c37 > No, I havn't lost my mind, I've misplaced it on purpose. I do need a = better > No, I havn't lost my mind, I've misplaced it on purpose. I do need a better 40,41c39 > http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6956 to reassemble it, and as I started = building, > http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6956 to reassemble it, and as I started building, 43c41 >=20 > 46,49c44,45 > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Hover-Wheeled-Vehicl= /MTronSegway/mtronsegway.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Hover-Wheeled-Vehicl/MTronSegway/mtronsegway.jpg > 51,57c47,49 > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Hover-Wheeled-Vehicl= /MTronSegway/mtsgwy01.jpg > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Hover-Wheeled-Vehicl= /MTronSegway/mtsgwy02.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Hover-Wheeled-Vehicl/MTronSegway/mtsgwy01.jpg > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Hover-Wheeled-Vehicl/MTronSegway/mtsgwy02.jpg > 60,66c52,54 > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtbo= ta01.jpg > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtbo= tahp.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtbota01.jpg > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtbotahp.jpg > 68,74c56,58 > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtbo= tb01.jpg > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtbo= thip.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtbotb01.jpg > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtbothip.jpg > 76,79c60,61 > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtbo= thed.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtbothed.jpg > 81,86c63,65 > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtro= nbots.jpg >=20 > The Segway and one version of the bot can be made at the same time = with the > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Mecha/MTronbots/mtronbots.jpg > > The Segway and one version of the bot can be made at the same time with the 88,90c67,68 >=20 > On a different space idea, This is an idea for handlebars that can = swivel & > > On a different space idea, This is an idea for handlebars that can swivel & 92,98c70,73 > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Misc-Ideas/spacehand= lebars.jpg > (the different colors are to make the independent parts easily = identifiable; > also, putting Technic pegs on each of the 2 handles would allow = Technic figs to > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jeff-S/Space-Mecha/Misc-Ideas/spacehandlebars.jpg > (the different colors are to make the independent parts easily identifiable; > also, putting Technic pegs on each of the 2 handles would allow Technic figs > to 100c75 >=20 > 102,103c77,78 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D23283 >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=23283 > 105d79
lugnet.space:21667 13c13,14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=35441 26c27 --=20 -- 28d28
lugnet.space:21673 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 20 Lines: 18 23c24 I submitted without the "3D" immediately after the "=3D" sign. I submitted without the "3D" immediately after the "=" sign. 25,26c26,27 Please open the mindstorm folder, remove the "3D" from the address in = your address bar, make it go, and tell me what you think. Please open the mindstorm folder, remove the "3D" from the address in your address bar, make it go, and tell me what you think. 29,30c30 "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message = news:HB0BFq.FtG@lugnet.com... "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:HB0BFq.FtG@lugnet.com... 32c32 > >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D3D35441 > >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 35c35 > >--=3D20 > >--=20 37,39c37,38 >=20 > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. Can't = wait to > > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. Can't wait to 41c40 >=20 > 43d41
lugnet.space:21678 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 38 Lines: 33 23,26c24,26 It is probably common for an "=3D" sign to be followed by the "3D" = symbols on the web interface when the post originates in Outlook Express = (just guessing). I think it also adds "=3D20" after "--" in such a post. It is probably common for an "=" sign to be followed by the "3D" symbols on the web interface when the post originates in Outlook Express (just guessing). I think it also adds "=20" after "--" in such a post. 33,34c33 "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message = news:HB0C6p.IC9@lugnet.com... "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:HB0C6p.IC9@lugnet.com... 39,40c38 > >> > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. = Can't > >> > ...looks like pictures of Mindfest to me ;-) Check the link. Can't 45,46c43 > >> That's wierd His link worked for me. But the link you quoted = didn't. > >> That's wierd His link worked for me. But the link you quoted didn't. 48,49c45 > >> Where did you get the '3D' from?? His original message didn't have = it. > >> Where did you get the '3D' from?? His original message didn't have it. 51c47 > >> try: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 > >> try: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=35441 55c51 >=20 > 57c53 >=20 > 59c55 >=20 > 61d56
lugnet.space:21688 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 26 Lines: 25 23c24 Nothing on the scale of your Arcane Family Home, and I have such a small = Nothing on the scale of your Arcane Family Home, and I have such a small 28c29 "Nicole Drumm" <kdrumm1@stny.rr.com> wrote in message = "Nicole Drumm" <kdrumm1@stny.rr.com> wrote in message 32c33 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D35441 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=35441 37,39c38,39 >=20 > Wow. This is something! With the exception of the telephone like = handle part > > Wow. This is something! With the exception of the telephone like handle part 41c41 >=20 > 47,49c47,48 >=20 >=20 > >
lugnet.space:21723 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 30 Lines: 24 28c29 "Travis Cobbs" <tcobbs@REMOVE.halibut.com> wrote in message = "Travis Cobbs" <tcobbs@REMOVE.halibut.com> wrote in message 32,35c33,34 =3D > >may appear with various symbols added. These can cause confusion of = the =3D > >message by both human viewers and by alternate digital/mechanical =3D > >may appear with various symbols added. These can cause confusion of the = > >message by both human viewers and by alternate digital/mechanical = 37c36 > >--=3D20 > >--=20 40c39 >=20 > 42,49c41,44 > interface. I believe (but could be wrong) that the problem is that = you > don't have Outlook Express set to use plain text for all news posts. = My > understanding is that Usenet news posts should always be in plain = text, and > Microsoft screwed things up yet again by allowing you to post in an = encoded > interface. I believe (but could be wrong) that the problem is that you > don't have Outlook Express set to use plain text for all news posts. My > understanding is that Usenet news posts should always be in plain text, and > Microsoft screwed things up yet again by allowing you to post in an encoded 51c46 >=20 > 53d47
lugnet.space:21734 12c12,13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 Lines: 54 Lines: 48 31c32 "John Henry Kruer" <jhkruer@yahoo.com> wrote in message = "John Henry Kruer" <jhkruer@yahoo.com> wrote in message 33,38c34,36 > But is this actually an airlock, or a docking port? I've noticed that = alot > of the 'airlocks' made here aften feature only one door. They look = more > like a docking ring to me- anybody opening the door in outer space to = go > But is this actually an airlock, or a docking port? I've noticed that alot > of the 'airlocks' made here aften feature only one door. They look more > like a docking ring to me- anybody opening the door in outer space to go 40c38 >=20 > 42,48c40,43 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3D240706 > = http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/tboy/Space/jakesjunkship/dsc01658-1.jpg= >=20 > But the actually design of this is pretty cool IMHO. Is this part of = your > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=240706 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/tboy/Space/jakesjunkship/dsc01658-1.jpg > > But the actually design of this is pretty cool IMHO. Is this part of your 50c45 >=20 > 52c47 >=20 > 70c65 > >http://news.lugnet.com/space/?n=3D19348 > >http://news.lugnet.com/space/?n=19348 77d71
lugnet.space:23513 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 25 Lines: 22 20,21c21 > >Are you in SoCal? If so, you're more than welcome to see it at any time = :) > >Are you in SoCal? If so, you're more than welcome to see it at any time :) 28,31c28,29 > >> -Dave (who thinks trans-green should be the answer to your latest ques= tion) > >Ahh, hopefully, I won't have any problems finding trans-green bricks the= n. > >> -Dave (who thinks trans-green should be the answer to your latest question) > >Ahh, hopefully, I won't have any problems finding trans-green bricks then. 33c31 > >http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=3D3959 > >http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=3959 38c36 --=20 -- 40,44c38,41 words or less. >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. =20 Kid: Yeah, that will be easy. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ =20 stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.')=20 stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL =20 words or less. >.~.\ `` ` `,`,`. ,'_'~`. Kid: Yeah, that will be easy. (v_," ; `,-\ ; : ; \/,-~) \ stripes at tigerlair dot com `--'_..),-/ ' ' '_.>-' )`.`.__.') stripes at brickbox dot com ((,((,__..'~~~~~~((,__..' `-..-'fL
lugnet.starwars:946 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 42 Lines: 35 22,23c23 >I for one have read nearly all of the SW books but I don't sit there= trying to >I for one have read nearly all of the SW books but I don't sit there trying to 25,28c25,26 >Princess Leia's Hair buns were rapped in 5 concentric circles or, that= Mara >Jade was hiding behind the 5th crate next to the bathroom during the final= >Princess Leia's Hair buns were rapped in 5 concentric circles or, that Mara >Jade was hiding behind the 5th crate next to the bathroom during the final 31,41c29,36 That has nothing to do with any of the questions I had asked, none of them= were as trivial as that. If you've read the books(say the KJA trilogy)= you're going to remember that the Acadamy was on Yavin 4 and that Xar Kun= was the dark jedi knight who turned Kyp Durran against Luke. There were a= couple of questions that you might have to look back to a book to find the= answer for though. >This all may sound cynical but I don't think it makes me any less of a= fan. I >love SW and I own a lot of memorabilia (including the Lego sets) but I= don't That has nothing to do with any of the questions I had asked, none of them were as trivial as that. If you've read the books(say the KJA trilogy) you're going to remember that the Acadamy was on Yavin 4 and that Xar Kun was the dark jedi knight who turned Kyp Durran against Luke. There were a couple of questions that you might have to look back to a book to find the answer for though. >This all may sound cynical but I don't think it makes me any less of a fan. I >love SW and I own a lot of memorabilia (including the Lego sets) but I don't 44,48c39,43 I don't think I ever said "if you can't answer these questions you aren't= really a SW fan", because if I had that would mean that I am not a true SW= fan because I couldn't have answered all those questions without the help= of a book. Oh, like you're really a SW encyclo. for remembering some of= the things that happened in the books you've read. I don't think I ever said "if you can't answer these questions you aren't really a SW fan", because if I had that would mean that I am not a true SW fan because I couldn't have answered all those questions without the help of a book. Oh, like you're really a SW encyclo. for remembering some of the things that happened in the books you've read. 50,51c45 >So please don't look at me and others as being any less a fan just because= we >So please don't look at me and others as being any less a fan just because we 54,56c48,50 I'd like you to prove that those questions were mere "minute details". The= way this came across was that you just felt like being sarcastic and= thought that this would be a way to let it out. If that's not what you I'd like you to prove that those questions were mere "minute details". The way this came across was that you just felt like being sarcastic and thought that this would be a way to let it out. If that's not what you 61d54
lugnet.starwars:1055 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 16 Lines: 15 20,21c21,22 I have done the three smaller sets in LDraw. All I need is the new pieces= to be made and become official. I have done the three smaller sets in LDraw. All I need is the new pieces to be made and become official. 30,31c31 >a while ago someone sent me a message saying they were going to scan me= the >a while ago someone sent me a message saying they were going to scan me the 36d35
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lugnet.starwars:1058 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 15 Lines: 13 20,22c21,23 No, but right after they are released in the next update I will get them= out. Probably the day after the release or so. I know it will probably be= a month, but I think you could probably wait :) No, but right after they are released in the next update I will get them out. Probably the day after the release or so. I know it will probably be a month, but I think you could probably wait :) 30,33c31,32 >can you please send me the .dat files and a list of what is missing? you= can >get some of the parts (x-wing engine,x/y/snowspeeder= windshield,x/snowspeeder >can you please send me the .dat files and a list of what is missing? you can >get some of the parts (x-wing engine,x/y/snowspeeder windshield,x/snowspeeder 35d33
lugnet.starwars:1089 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 24 Lines: 22 20,21c21,22 Wow!! Those are cool. That Star Destroyer is awesome!! Is that magazine= available only in the UK?? Wow!! Those are cool. That Star Destroyer is awesome!! Is that magazine available only in the UK?? 35,36c36 >http://thunder.prohosting.com/~carbon60/files/DarthVader.JPG (119KB) - not= so >http://thunder.prohosting.com/~carbon60/files/DarthVader.JPG (119KB) - not so 39,40c39 >Hope these work - they are case dependent - I had to use Ulead photo= thingy - >Hope these work - they are case dependent - I had to use Ulead photo thingy - 44d42
lugnet.starwars:1108 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19,21c20,22 I wanted to let you know that Richard Dee has added a couple more pictures= of my Hoth Battle Scene. They are from some different views(you asked for= them Bram, and now you've got 'em). PLMKWYT I wanted to let you know that Richard Dee has added a couple more pictures of my Hoth Battle Scene. They are from some different views(you asked for them Bram, and now you've got 'em). PLMKWYT 26d26
lugnet.starwars:1146 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 42 Lines: 35 20,25c21,24 It is called "wave one". They have a contract with Lucas for at least two= more years I believe, so I wouldn't doubt that over the next couple of years we= will see some of the other ships. Maybe they're following the "save the best for= last" It is called "wave one". They have a contract with Lucas for at least two more years I believe, so I wouldn't doubt that over the next couple of years we will see some of the other ships. Maybe they're following the "save the best for last" 43,44c42 >What about an A-Wing or B-Wing models? Although John Van did demonstrate= the >What about an A-Wing or B-Wing models? Although John Van did demonstrate the 48,55c46,49 >And where are the uniform foot-soldiers of the Empire in the good 'ol= white >and black? TLG sells Rebel foot-soldiers for their one Hoth set, and even= a >maintenance guy for the X-Wing, but only the rarely viewed Jungle soldiers= in >EP. VI? Do I sense a little prejudice here? After all, what did the= Empire >And where are the uniform foot-soldiers of the Empire in the good 'ol white >and black? TLG sells Rebel foot-soldiers for their one Hoth set, and even a >maintenance guy for the X-Wing, but only the rarely viewed Jungle soldiers in >EP. VI? Do I sense a little prejudice here? After all, what did the Empire 62d55
lugnet.starwars:1225 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 43 Lines: 34 20,21c21 I think that this is a really cool ship. I would get it just for Jar Jar if= he I think that this is a really cool ship. I would get it just for Jar Jar if he 31,34c31,32 >>into underwater craft and I doubt I'll buy this set -- unless it's the= only >>way to get one or two of the characters. It reminds me too much of one= of >>into underwater craft and I doubt I'll buy this set -- unless it's the only >>way to get one or two of the characters. It reminds me too much of one of 36,37c34 >>artistic freedom with the design. In the trailer for Episode 1, we see= Jar >>artistic freedom with the design. In the trailer for Episode 1, we see Jar 40,41c37 >>cockpits. BTW, I think those bricks are blue, not purple. I have a= feeling >>cockpits. BTW, I think those bricks are blue, not purple. I have a feeling 48,53c44,46 >standpoint), but other than that it's hard to tell any details - it's only= in >the trailer for a couple seconds, and for most of that, we're looking= straight >at the headlights :) It does appear to be more mantaray shaped than the= TLG >standpoint), but other than that it's hard to tell any details - it's only in >the trailer for a couple seconds, and for most of that, we're looking straight >at the headlights :) It does appear to be more mantaray shaped than the TLG 56,57c49 >As to purple vs blue - I'm pretty certain it's purple, as there's no other= >As to purple vs blue - I'm pretty certain it's purple, as there's no other 63d54
lugnet.starwars:1229 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 47 Lines: 43 36,39c37,38 >I was wondering the same thing about purple.... I bet John Gerlach an= American >Dollar it is. What is the opinion of others out there? Purple or blue?= My >I was wondering the same thing about purple.... I bet John Gerlach an American >Dollar it is. What is the opinion of others out there? Purple or blue? My 46,47c45 >> >At long last, our first good look at an Episode I Lego set.= www.yakface.com >> >At long last, our first good look at an Episode I Lego set. www.yakface.com 52,53c50,51 >> >Finally, a great big beautiful picture of what's going to be on the= shelves in >> >Finally, a great big beautiful picture of what's going to be on the shelves >> >in 62,63c60 >> Now I'm wondering -- is that sub actually got purple pieces, or is it= just >> Now I'm wondering -- is that sub actually got purple pieces, or is it just 67d63
lugnet.starwars:1317 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 27 29,30c30 Anikin fig with that cool pilot's helmet(it would make a good 60's= football Anikin fig with that cool pilot's helmet(it would make a good 60's football 37,40c37,39 pod racers a pretty cool looking. I'm guessing that either we don't see= the whole set on the box cover, or part of it is indistinguishable. It looks= like it pod racers a pretty cool looking. I'm guessing that either we don't see the whole set on the box cover, or part of it is indistinguishable. It looks like it 43,44c42,43 I case you didn't notice I will be getting the Naboo Fighter :) if I can= find it. I case you didn't notice I will be getting the Naboo Fighter :) if I can find it. 48d46
lugnet.starwars:1413 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 37 Lines: 32 29,30c30 I love Jar Jar. His head is soooo cool. Lego should have done cool stuff= like I love Jar Jar. His head is soooo cool. Lego should have done cool stuff like 35,40c35,37 ><blink blink> bricks with clips are Jr? I find those very useful! It= means >that I have that many more options whenever I want to use a clip. The= pieces >they are using, for example, are very difficult to simulate with the= tradition ><blink blink> bricks with clips are Jr? I find those very useful! It means >that I have that many more options whenever I want to use a clip. The pieces >they are using, for example, are very difficult to simulate with the tradition 42,53c39,49 I must agree here. I only have one but I think that even though it was= introduced in Town JR. it is a very useful element. You couldn't make your own one of= those because the 1x1 plate w/clip doesn't have an open stud like the 1x2 plate= w/1 stud. So this piece can bring building to a new level, along with some of the= great new SW pieces. If I were to list all of the great new pieces or colors this= message would probably extend forever :) So far the 2 biggest "must gets" are the Naboo= swamp & I must agree here. I only have one but I think that even though it was introduced in Town JR. it is a very useful element. You couldn't make your own one of those because the 1x1 plate w/clip doesn't have an open stud like the 1x2 plate w/1 stud. So this piece can bring building to a new level, along with some of the great new SW pieces. If I were to list all of the great new pieces or colors this message would probably extend forever :) So far the 2 biggest "must gets" are the Naboo swamp & 57d52
lugnet.starwars:1469 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 45 Lines: 38 34,35c35 >>>You know, I've always wondered why I like RotJ the least of the trilogy,= and >>>You know, I've always wondered why I like RotJ the least of the trilogy, and 37,38c37 >>>think you've hit it! Just think if half the movie was used attacking= the 2nd >>>think you've hit it! Just think if half the movie was used attacking the 2nd 43,44c42 >>Nah, that would have been too too derivative (having another Death Star= was >>Nah, that would have been too too derivative (having another Death Star was 47,52c45,47 >>What if they had taken the Death Star planet-killer weapon, and put it on= a >>*much* smaller platform (instead of an even bigger platform)? These= might >>have been 10Km long, but only 1 KM wide. Kind of like the ultimate= weapon >>What if they had taken the Death Star planet-killer weapon, and put it on a >>*much* smaller platform (instead of an even bigger platform)? These might >>have been 10Km long, but only 1 KM wide. Kind of like the ultimate weapon 60,61c55 >I whole heartedly agree. How come the Ewoks got there own movie but no= other >I whole heartedly agree. How come the Ewoks got there own movie but no other 65d58
lugnet.starwars:1515 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 95 Lines: 81 33,34c34 >No. He does have a little Sith Speeder, though (which is on board his= Sith >No. He does have a little Sith Speeder, though (which is on board his Sith 36,41c36,38 >wasn't surprised to see it in the Sith Infiltrator set, but it's= appearance in >the Lightsaber Duel set is weird... I wonder if they just wanted to pad= out the >pie size of the set a bit (after all, what else would that little= doohickey >wasn't surprised to see it in the Sith Infiltrator set, but it's appearance in >the Lightsaber Duel set is weird... I wonder if they just wanted to pad out the >pie size of the set a bit (after all, what else would that little doohickey 67,78c64,69 >They chose to make the Lightsaber Duel set representative of the Duel= between >Qui-Gonn and Maul on Tatooine, instead of the three-way battle between= Obi-Wan, >Qui-Gonn, and Maul somewhere else. I would think a small set with all= three >minifigs would be a much better seller than with just the two... as it= stands, >to get young Obi-Wan, you have to get the Gungan Sub set or (I think) the= Mos >Espa Podrace set, whereas Qui-Gonn is in the Duel, the Podrace, Naboo= Swamp, >They chose to make the Lightsaber Duel set representative of the Duel between >Qui-Gonn and Maul on Tatooine, instead of the three-way battle between Obi-Wan, >Qui-Gonn, and Maul somewhere else. I would think a small set with all three >minifigs would be a much better seller than with just the two... as it stands, >to get young Obi-Wan, you have to get the Gungan Sub set or (I think) the Mos >Espa Podrace set, whereas Qui-Gonn is in the Duel, the Podrace, Naboo Swamp, 101,106c92,94 >If it is true that Qui-Gonn dies at the end of the Phantom Menace, TLG= might >just be packing him into as many sets as possible, since the sets from Eps= II >and III can't really have him in them. Except maybe as a trans-blue= minifig. >If it is true that Qui-Gonn dies at the end of the Phantom Menace, TLG might >just be packing him into as many sets as possible, since the sets from Eps II >and III can't really have him in them. Except maybe as a trans-blue minifig. 108,109c96 >OH! How cool would that be! Trans-blue "Spirit of Dead Jedi X" minifigs!= >OH! How cool would that be! Trans-blue "Spirit of Dead Jedi X" minifigs! 115d101
lugnet.starwars:1557 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 35 Lines: 31 36,39c37,38 >>Hello? Take a look at the picture of the back, and see if you can tell= me >>what that piece on top is. It looks like a strange combination of plate= and >>Hello? Take a look at the picture of the back, and see if you can tell me >>what that piece on top is. It looks like a strange combination of plate and 45,46c44 >I've been wondering the same thing. I first noticed it in pictures of= some >I've been wondering the same thing. I first noticed it in pictures of some 48,49c46 >One of my first thoughts is that it is almost the right shape for an AT-AT= >One of my first thoughts is that it is almost the right shape for an AT-AT 55d51
lugnet.starwars:1573 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 78 Lines: 64 22,23c23 >Ok, there was a lot of idle speculation before any sets came out- but now= that >Ok, there was a lot of idle speculation before any sets came out- but now that 25,28c25,26 >Episode I sets how do you think TLG will do the following? How do you= think >they *will* do it (cause we all know these aren't the same question, not= at >Episode I sets how do you think TLG will do the following? How do you think >they *will* do it (cause we all know these aren't the same question, not at 33,34c31 Hopefully in pirate/wild west coin gold color. This would be a great= minifig. Hopefully in pirate/wild west coin gold color. This would be a great minifig. 36,41c33,35 >* Yoda- since we've all seen that Anakin was produced as a full-size= minifig, >what do you think they'll do for Yoda? They apparently produced a= one-piece >Sebulba for the Podrace set.. do you think they might make some kind of= teeny >* Yoda- since we've all seen that Anakin was produced as a full-size minifig, >what do you think they'll do for Yoda? They apparently produced a one-piece >Sebulba for the Podrace set.. do you think they might make some kind of teeny 44,45c38,39 If they do him I think he will be a one(maybe two) piece figure. This would= be the If they do him I think he will be a one(maybe two) piece figure. This would be the 47,54c41,48 "What! No Yoda! And you call yourselves makers of Star Wars toys!" :) Well= I really don't care if they make him, and if they do it would probably be only for a= minifig pack(I think they would make a bundle of off minifig packs especially if= they did stormtrooper and rebel soldier ones. And then one for the main characters= for those "What! No Yoda! And you call yourselves makers of Star Wars toys!" :) Well I really don't care if they make him, and if they do it would probably be only for a minifig pack(I think they would make a bundle of off minifig packs especially if they did stormtrooper and rebel soldier ones. And then one for the main characters for those 57,58c51 >* Lando Calrissian. Ok, you all know what I'm getting at here. They can= only >* Lando Calrissian. Ok, you all know what I'm getting at here. They can only 64,67c57,59 I would hope they'd make Lando. But I think it would be best to leave him= out if they don't give him a brown head. I would also like to see Mace Windu from TPM,= along I would hope they'd make Lando. But I think it would be best to leave him out if they don't give him a brown head. I would also like to see Mace Windu from TPM, along 70,71c62 >* Chewbacca. Regular minifig? Ghost sheet-type solution? Completely= revised >* Chewbacca. Regular minifig? Ghost sheet-type solution? Completely revised 74,75c65,66 Yes a carved ghost body with a brown head and two new pieces, a long left= leg and Yes a carved ghost body with a brown head and two new pieces, a long left leg and 78,83c69,71 >*Assorted aliens. Given the treatment of Sebulba and Gasgano,= non-humanoid >aliens in the podrace set, how many alien minifig heads (ie, different= molds) >are we likely to see? What do you think the first one from Classic= Trilogy >*Assorted aliens. Given the treatment of Sebulba and Gasgano, non-humanoid >aliens in the podrace set, how many alien minifig heads (ie, different molds) >are we likely to see? What do you think the first one from Classic Trilogy 86,93c74,80 Yes we definately we need aliens. Jar Jar is so cool looking:) I already= know who my favorite characters in the movie are and all I've seen is a few pictures= and some video clips from George Lucas' appearence on 60 Minutes. Oh, yeh, they are= Jar Jar and the battle droids. So I guess the most logical set for me to get is= the Naboo Yes we definately we need aliens. Jar Jar is so cool looking:) I already know who my favorite characters in the movie are and all I've seen is a few pictures and some video clips from George Lucas' appearence on 60 Minutes. Oh, yeh, they are Jar Jar and the battle droids. So I guess the most logical set for me to get is the Naboo 98d84
lugnet.starwars:1602 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 20 Lines: 16 25,30c26,28 >>I would personally like to see a Star Wars idea book with plans for= A-Wing, B- >>Wing, Ties (Interceptor and bomber) and the MF. and maybe even a parts= pack >>that can make up the missing MF pieces, ie. MF =3D 7101+7xxx+ etc...+MF= Parts >>I would personally like to see a Star Wars idea book with plans for A-Wing, B- >>Wing, Ties (Interceptor and bomber) and the MF. and maybe even a parts pack >>that can make up the missing MF pieces, ie. MF = 7101+7xxx+ etc...+MF Parts 35,36c33 Oh, sorta like the throwbots that when you get the complete set you can= make a Oh, sorta like the throwbots that when you get the complete set you can make a 40d36
lugnet.starwars:1624 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 23 Lines: 18 28,33c29,31 >I have put my model of an A-wing on my web site. This is my first Lego= Model >in about 12 Years. I got back into lego thanks to the new SW Sets. You= will >notice I used a couple of pieces from the new sets but I mostly used old= pieces >I have put my model of an A-wing on my web site. This is my first Lego Model >in about 12 Years. I got back into lego thanks to the new SW Sets. You will >notice I used a couple of pieces from the new sets but I mostly used old pieces 36,39c34,35 >My web site is dedicated to Star Wars Lego and I just finished my version= 1.0 >of the site so let me know what you think. I still have some work to do.= This >My web site is dedicated to Star Wars Lego and I just finished my version 1.0 >of the site so let me know what you think. I still have some work to do. This 43d38
lugnet.starwars:1651 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 39 Lines: 34 33,36c34,35 >I received in the mail today a promotional version of "Duel of the Fates",= a >track from the Phantom Menace soundtrack. Once again Williams conducts the= >I received in the mail today a promotional version of "Duel of the Fates", a >track from the Phantom Menace soundtrack. Once again Williams conducts the 39,42c38,39 >Front cover shows Darth Maul and Qui Gon dueling(1) in the desert= (presumably >Tatooine), back cover shows Darth Maul lookin through binoculars in the= desert >Front cover shows Darth Maul and Qui Gon dueling(1) in the desert (presumably >Tatooine), back cover shows Darth Maul lookin through binoculars in the desert 46,47c43 >expectations and produced a lavish, rich, moving and thrilling score.= Every fan >expectations and produced a lavish, rich, moving and thrilling score. Every fan 59d54
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lugnet.starwars:1663 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 64 Lines: 38 28,71c29,50 >Some very interesting things I noticed. I picked up the Sith Infiltrator= and >the Mos Espa Pod Race set today at Aims. They were pulling pallets out of= the >back from a shipment. They were putting pallets of toys near the toy= section >and in them were a couple lego cartons. There were two boxes in one= pallet >that said, "Do not open until May 3rd" or something like that. I grabbed= one >box and opened it. It was 6 pieces of Anakin's pod. This set was in the= Pod >Race set so I didn't take one. I searched for quite some time among the= other >pallets and found one that said 7151 on it. 2 boxes with 3 in each. I= opened >it and took out a Sith Infiltator. There was nothing I could see on the= carton >that said do not open. It rang right up with no problems and I took it to= the >car. I came back in to ask if anyone could check in the back. They= looked and >I said I think there should definately be some. So I went back to the= 7151 and >started digging again. 7151 was on top of what appeared to be an unmarked= box. > I shifted lots of stuff around until I found it had a lego symbol on it,= but I >couldn't see any numbers. I slit it open and inside was the Pod Race set.= >There was only 2 per box and they had 2 boxes. I asked if I could take= one, >she said,"only if it doesn't topple this stack over" :) So off to the= counter >I went. I went to the same register. They lady was like, "I can't= believe you >just did that!" I was like "Did what" She said, if you rang them both up= at >the same time, you would get the cheaper one at half off! I went back to= the >car, brought back in the Sith and bought it again for 15 bucks! Anyhow, I= was >looking at the other two pilots. Sebulba is a one piece figure that looks= like >Some very interesting things I noticed. I picked up the Sith Infiltrator and >the Mos Espa Pod Race set today at Aims. They were pulling pallets out of the >back from a shipment. They were putting pallets of toys near the toy section >and in them were a couple lego cartons. There were two boxes in one pallet >that said, "Do not open until May 3rd" or something like that. I grabbed one >box and opened it. It was 6 pieces of Anakin's pod. This set was in the Pod >Race set so I didn't take one. I searched for quite some time among the other >pallets and found one that said 7151 on it. 2 boxes with 3 in each. I opened >it and took out a Sith Infiltator. There was nothing I could see on the carton >that said do not open. It rang right up with no problems and I took it to the >car. I came back in to ask if anyone could check in the back. They looked and >I said I think there should definately be some. So I went back to the 7151 and >started digging again. 7151 was on top of what appeared to be an unmarked box. > I shifted lots of stuff around until I found it had a lego symbol on it, but I >couldn't see any numbers. I slit it open and inside was the Pod Race set. >There was only 2 per box and they had 2 boxes. I asked if I could take one, >she said,"only if it doesn't topple this stack over" :) So off to the counter >I went. I went to the same register. They lady was like, "I can't believe you >just did that!" I was like "Did what" She said, if you rang them both up at >the same time, you would get the cheaper one at half off! I went back to the >car, brought back in the Sith and bought it again for 15 bucks! Anyhow, I was >looking at the other two pilots. Sebulba is a one piece figure that looks like 73,80c52,55 >minifig head and new special arms, very similar to the skeleton arms but= with >an elbow. As I was leaving, one employee asked where I got those from. I= told >them they are skattered around the floor all over the place. As I walked= out, >I heard over the loud speaker. "Toys, call extension 17, toys extension= 17." >minifig head and new special arms, very similar to the skeleton arms but with >an elbow. As I was leaving, one employee asked where I got those from. I told >them they are skattered around the floor all over the place. As I walked out, >I heard over the loud speaker. "Toys, call extension 17, toys extension 17." 84d58
lugnet.starwars:1681 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 43 Lines: 35 35,36c36 >>i've got a cousin in india who speaks prtty good sanskrit,maybe i should= ask >>i've got a cousin in india who speaks prtty good sanskrit,maybe i should ask 39,44c39,41 >Well ravi, i've uploaded a piece of it to my tripod site. It's the first 2= >minutes of it. I didn't want to upload the whole thing cuz it's a naughty= no >no. It's in 80kbps .rm file (so there's probably no streaming for most of= you). >Well ravi, i've uploaded a piece of it to my tripod site. It's the first 2 >minutes of it. I didn't want to upload the whole thing cuz it's a naughty no >no. It's in 80kbps .rm file (so there's probably no streaming for most of you). 46,51c43,45 >Have your cousin listen to it. H'd be interested in hearing what those= words >mean. Oddly enough after hearing it, "hakuna na tada" came bouncing into= my >head. Not because of the music, but only cause the lyric reminded me of= it. >Have your cousin listen to it. H'd be interested in hearing what those words >mean. Oddly enough after hearing it, "hakuna na tada" came bouncing into my >head. Not because of the music, but only cause the lyric reminded me of it. 60,61c54 >when replying, please note Darth Maul's extraordinarily long light sabre= hilt >when replying, please note Darth Maul's extraordinarily long light sabre hilt 63d55
lugnet.starwars:1692 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 25 Lines: 21 30,33c31,32 >>Ames is present in SW PA, but I think that's just about the limit of= where >>they've spread to. My local Ames currently has no SW items out at all,= and >>Ames is present in SW PA, but I think that's just about the limit of where >>they've spread to. My local Ames currently has no SW items out at all, and 38,41c37,38 >There are at least two Ames near me. I live just outside Washington DC in= >Silver Spring MD. Also, when I visited Florida a couple years ago, I= picked up >There are at least two Ames near me. I live just outside Washington DC in >Silver Spring MD. Also, when I visited Florida a couple years ago, I picked up 45d41
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lugnet.starwars:1881 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 33 Lines: 28 36,41c37,39 >If you have the Quicktime Plugin, you can set it to put the movies in your= disk >cache. Go to the page and start to download the clip,then click on the= button >in the lower right corner and choose "Plugin Options". You should see the= >If you have the Quicktime Plugin, you can set it to put the movies in your disk >cache. Go to the page and start to download the clip,then click on the button >in the lower right corner and choose "Plugin Options". You should see the 44,45c42 >Then, when the file is done downloading, you can find it in the directory= you >Then, when the file is done downloading, you can find it in the directory you 48,49c45 >I did this with QT4 for Win98, but I doubt it works much differently for= QT3 or >I did this with QT4 for Win98, but I doubt it works much differently for QT3 or 53d48
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lugnet.starwars:1918 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 62 Lines: 52 45,46c46 >>body both perfectly flat (no studs at all) but with Technic peg holes.= Then >>body both perfectly flat (no studs at all) but with Technic peg holes. Then 49,52c49,50 >>Or if that's too complex for kids, build the peg into either the head or= the >>body...that's what they did for the legs, after all, and those work= great! >>Or if that's too complex for kids, build the peg into either the head or the >>body...that's what they did for the legs, after all, and those work great! 55,56c53 >That's it. You hit the head design that I was thinking of. Odd that for= the >That's it. You hit the head design that I was thinking of. Odd that for the 60,61c57 >>R2-D2 is the first LEGO piece I've ever felt that I wanted to take an= X-Acto >>R2-D2 is the first LEGO piece I've ever felt that I wanted to take an X-Acto 64,67c60,61 >Better yet, they could have left the stud, and moved it to one side so it= could >have been one of his "eyes". Two studs would have worked too, one on each= side >Better yet, they could have left the stud, and moved it to one side so it could >have been one of his "eyes". Two studs would have worked too, one on each side 69,72c63,64 >already have the printing lined up to face "forward" in relation to the= head >piece's socket so it sounds like it could have been done. Plus, that would= have >already have the printing lined up to face "forward" in relation to the head >piece's socket so it sounds like it could have been done. Plus, that would have 75,76c67 >>p.s. A freebie bonus if the peg were in Artoo's head would be that it= would >>p.s. A freebie bonus if the peg were in Artoo's head would be that it would 82d72
lugnet.starwars:1922 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 27 Lines: 25 32,33c33 >I have a similar grim encounter with the "Lightsaber Duel". As it turned= out, >I have a similar grim encounter with the "Lightsaber Duel". As it turned out, 43,44c43 >>For those of you commenting on the "Extra" cape in the Naboo Swamp= set..... >>For those of you commenting on the "Extra" cape in the Naboo Swamp set..... 47d45
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lugnet.starwars:1929 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 41,42c42,43 >> > # minifigs =3D 5 not 4: Anakin Skywalker, R2-D2, Jar Jar Binks,= Qui-Gon Jinn, >> > # minifigs = 5 not 4: Anakin Skywalker, R2-D2, Jar Jar Binks, Qui-Gon >> > Jinn, 54d54
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lugnet.starwars:1987 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 49 Lines: 45 31,34c32,33 >I don't throw *anything* out. I still have all my Lego Club pamphlets!= The >only time I ever throw stuff out is when it is virtually destroyed. :) I= have >I don't throw *anything* out. I still have all my Lego Club pamphlets! The >only time I ever throw stuff out is when it is virtually destroyed. :) I have 52,53c51 >>>I have a similar grim encounter with the "Lightsaber Duel". As it= turned=3D >>>I have a similar grim encounter with the "Lightsaber Duel". As it turned= 55,56c53 >>>the missing cape had concealed itself in one of the accompanying= catalogs. >>>the missing cape had concealed itself in one of the accompanying catalogs. 65c62 >>>>For those of you commenting on the "Extra" cape in the Naboo Swamp=3D >>>>For those of you commenting on the "Extra" cape in the Naboo Swamp= 69d65
lugnet.starwars:1988 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 30 Lines: 26 29,30c30 >Look in the catalog at the "Star Wars" theme design they have. To the= Right of >Look in the catalog at the "Star Wars" theme design they have. To the Right of 33,38c33,35 >The Scout Troopers are from Return of the Jedi, when they're on Endor.= Out of >curiosity, does anyone know if Scout Troopers participated in that big= battle >on Endor? (I haven't seen the movie in a while) I'm wondering if I need= more >The Scout Troopers are from Return of the Jedi, when they're on Endor. Out of >curiosity, does anyone know if Scout Troopers participated in that big battle >on Endor? (I haven't seen the movie in a while) I'm wondering if I need more 50d46
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lugnet.starwars:2105 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 49 Lines: 41 30,31c31 >On Tue, 11 May 1999 15:05:53 GMT, Sproaticus <jsproat@geocities.com>= wrote: >On Tue, 11 May 1999 15:05:53 GMT, Sproaticus <jsproat@geocities.com> wrote: 34,41c34,37 >>> On Mon, 10 May 1999 16:35:29 GMT, Sproaticus <jsproat@geocities.com>= wrote: >>> >I love the stories of security on the SW sets. In the TESB script, on= the >>> >soundstage, in everything, it was Ben Kneobi who was Luke's father;= James >>> >Earl Jones and Lucas were the *only ones* in the room when Lucas had= JEJ >>> On Mon, 10 May 1999 16:35:29 GMT, Sproaticus <jsproat@geocities.com> wrote: >>> >I love the stories of security on the SW sets. In the TESB script, on the >>> >soundstage, in everything, it was Ben Kneobi who was Luke's father; James >>> >Earl Jones and Lucas were the *only ones* in the room when Lucas had JEJ 43,44c39 >>> Help me out here: at what point did Mr. Vader realize who Luke was?= Was >>> Help me out here: at what point did Mr. Vader realize who Luke was? Was 52,53c47 >>So: David Prowse tells Mark Hamill that Ben Kenobi was Luke's dad,= Hamill >>So: David Prowse tells Mark Hamill that Ben Kenobi was Luke's dad, Hamill 57,58c51 >>dark conspiracy that will change the face of science fiction forever, and= no >>dark conspiracy that will change the face of science fiction forever, and no 69d61
lugnet.starwars:2137 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 61 Lines: 55 23,26c24,25 >> [...] It is high energy for most of the track, Horngold yet dark, very= much >> a sense of forboding in the music - I guess hence the Phantom Menace.= When >> [...] It is high energy for most of the track, Horngold yet dark, very much >> a sense of forboding in the music - I guess hence the Phantom Menace. When 35,36c34 Yes, I know what you mean. The first day I got it I listened to it four= times :) Yes, I know what you mean. The first day I got it I listened to it four times :) 40,41c38 >sounds, horns, drums, and hints of the old west and ethereal sea= adventures. >sounds, horns, drums, and hints of the old west and ethereal sea adventures. 43,44c40 It's amazing how he(Williams) can make it so totally diferent than the= orriginal It's amazing how he(Williams) can make it so totally diferent than the orriginal 47,48c43 >A lot of the album seems to be filler/background music, but I still have= to >A lot of the album seems to be filler/background music, but I still have to 81d75
lugnet.starwars:2147 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 29 Lines: 25 33,38c34,36 >I know its off topic but I got tickets I was on MovieFone starting at= 2:25EDT >and just stayed active enough for them not to kick me off and when 3:00= came I >got the Tix's for the time I wanted but at my #2 theater because my #1 was= >I know its off topic but I got tickets I was on MovieFone starting at 2:25EDT >and just stayed active enough for them not to kick me off and when 3:00 came I >got the Tix's for the time I wanted but at my #2 theater because my #1 was 41,42c39 >Well just to get on topic a bit... I hope there are some great ships we= havn't >Well just to get on topic a bit... I hope there are some great ships we havn't 49d45
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lugnet.starwars:2239 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 25 Lines: 22 29,30c30 >> >In lugnet.starwars, radiotitan@spamcake.yahoo.com (Tom McDonald)= writes: >> >In lugnet.starwars, radiotitan@spamcake.yahoo.com (Tom McDonald) writes: 36,37c36 >> >> appropriate party-pooper, remember that all music on this soundtrack= is >> >> appropriate party-pooper, remember that all music on this soundtrack is 40,41c39 >> >Plus, it's not very bright to talk openly in a public forum about= illegal >> >Plus, it's not very bright to talk openly in a public forum about illegal 45d42
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lugnet.starwars:2262 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 26,27c27,28 >Great Idea... I was thinking of doing this myself, but I would have wanted= to enter it :-) I have a couple of ideas, though: >Great Idea... I was thinking of doing this myself, but I would have wanted to >enter it :-) I have a couple of ideas, though: 29,30c30,31 >1) Wait until the current batch of new SW parts have been modeled in= LDraw. That way, people who wish to submit electronically wont be at a >1) Wait until the current batch of new SW parts have been modeled in LDraw. >That way, people who wish to submit electronically wont be at a 49d49
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lugnet.starwars:2272 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 76 Lines: 60 25,26c26 >>>>I was under the impression that it couldn't be sold or a major section= of >>>>I was under the impression that it couldn't be sold or a major section of 34,35c34 >>> "Unauthorized reproduction of this recording is prohibited by= Federal >>> "Unauthorized reproduction of this recording is prohibited by Federal 37c36 >>> "Unauthorized reproduction, copying, lending, hiring, public=3D >>> "Unauthorized reproduction, copying, lending, hiring, public= 43,44c42 >>>mixing tapes, backing up floppies) but the act of distributing= copyrighted >>>mixing tapes, backing up floppies) but the act of distributing copyrighted 53,56c51,52 >>also musicians(-the vocals), wouldn't this be illegal then. And what= about >Probably. A very high percentage of that sort of thing is technically= illegal >>also musicians(-the vocals), wouldn't this be illegal then. And what about >Probably. A very high percentage of that sort of thing is technically illegal 58,59c54 >>having DoTF on a website, wouldn't that also be illegal. I just want= to=3D >>having DoTF on a website, wouldn't that also be illegal. I just want to= 63,66c58,59 >None. Both of them are illegal. It is technically illegal (most places)= to >make/own/distribute copies of work that is not your own, or that you have= not >None. Both of them are illegal. It is technically illegal (most places) to >make/own/distribute copies of work that is not your own, or that you have not 69,70c62,63 So technically it was illegal for whoever it was that put DoTF up on the= web to do So technically it was illegal for whoever it was that put DoTF up on the web to do 73,82c66,70 >In the case of a CD, presumably you have paid for the right to own a copy.= >Most places, this includes the right to make additional copies for your= own >personal use, but for distribution - you can covert it to MP3, play it on= your >computer, copy it onto a tape to listen to in your car, put it on a mixed= disk >with other music you own a copy of, but as soon as you distribute copies,= you >In the case of a CD, presumably you have paid for the right to own a copy. >Most places, this includes the right to make additional copies for your own >personal use, but for distribution - you can covert it to MP3, play it on your >computer, copy it onto a tape to listen to in your car, put it on a mixed disk >with other music you own a copy of, but as soon as you distribute copies, you 84,87c72,73 >Distributing copies includes, but is not limited to: posting to the= internet, >e-mailing to a friend, lending to your brother, selling for 5 bucks each= in the >Distributing copies includes, but is not limited to: posting to the internet, >e-mailing to a friend, lending to your brother, selling for 5 bucks each in the 91,92c77 Thanks for the info. I just didn't see how it was illegal if posting DoTF= on the Thanks for the info. I just didn't see how it was illegal if posting DoTF on the 96d80
lugnet.starwars:2286 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 26 Lines: 22 29,30c30 >It depends on who put it up. You can download it from www.starwars.com,= the >It depends on who put it up. You can download it from www.starwars.com, the 32,35c32,33 >However, if someone else made it available -->without permission <-- or= not >within "fair use", then yes, it was illegal. I'm not sure about the fuzzy= >However, if someone else made it available -->without permission <-- or not >within "fair use", then yes, it was illegal. I'm not sure about the fuzzy 39,40c37 the first one to comment on what I was willing to do was illegal. Now, Tom,= the first one to comment on what I was willing to do was illegal. Now, Tom, 42,43c39,40 willing to do was illegal, but yet it is OK for you to do it. Isn't that= called something willing to do was illegal, but yet it is OK for you to do it. Isn't that called something 46d42
lugnet.starwars:2288 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 31 Lines: 30 20c21 On 5/17/99, at 6:46 AM, Sel=E7uk <teyyareci> wrote: On 5/17/99, at 6:46 AM, Selçuk <teyyareci> wrote: 28,29c29 >>>about a B-Wing's landing gear? Finally, Does anyone know what the= length >>>about a B-Wing's landing gear? Finally, Does anyone know what the length 51d50
lugnet.starwars:2290 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 50 Lines: 44 20c21 On 5/17/99, at 7:03 AM, Sel=E7uk <teyyareci> wrote: On 5/17/99, at 7:03 AM, Selçuk <teyyareci> wrote: 22,23c23 >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message= <199905161839010740.009943AD@agate.net>... >SCOTT R DENNETT wrote in message <199905161839010740.009943AD@agate.net>... 34,35c34 >trilogy) last week, and it is supposed to be in my hands at the end of= this >trilogy) last week, and it is supposed to be in my hands at the end of this 39,40c38 I have both of the originals, and the dictionary one is great. I will= probably I have both of the originals, and the dictionary one is great. I will probably 45,46c43 >dictionary thing. I have all of them and they are really nice. I also= looked >dictionary thing. I have all of them and they are really nice. I also looked 51,52c48 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345402278/qid%3D926938177/002-59433= 9 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345402278/qid%3D926938177/002-594339 56,57c52 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345386256/qid=3D926938293/sr=3D1-1/= 002-5 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345386256/qid=926938293/sr=1-1/002-5 62,63c57,58 Is that the $100. and something one?? If it is, I've seen it before and it= looks good, if you Is that the $100. and something one?? If it is, I've seen it before and it looks good, if you 69,70c64 >Sel=E7uk >Selçuk
lugnet.starwars:2292 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 27 Lines: 24 29,30c30 >I've never seen trans-yellow ones, and I've been collecting Space since= its >I've never seen trans-yellow ones, and I've been collecting Space since its 33,36c33,34 >I suggested trans-yellow because they haven't made trans-orange yet. And= I >don't consider the neon style trans-orange from Ice Planet and other= themes >I suggested trans-yellow because they haven't made trans-orange yet. And I >don't consider the neon style trans-orange from Ice Planet and other themes 47d44
lugnet.starwars:2300 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 51 Lines: 50 20,21c21 Hi all. I thought I would pass this on for any of you who would be= interested Hi all. I thought I would pass this on for any of you who would be interested 23,24c23,24 a friend who sells these books. Her E-mail address is at the top of the= forwarded a friend who sells these books. Her E-mail address is at the top of the forwarded 29,30c29,30 P.S. if you plan to get them, get them this way so have the other $20 to= spend on P.S. if you plan to get them, get them this way so have the other $20 to spend on 71d70
lugnet.starwars:2325 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 46 Lines: 40 30,33c31,32 >non-transparent shield. In the Empire Strikes back the Snow Speeder pilots= wear >yellow visors that presumable pull down from their helmets. (Does Luke= also >non-transparent shield. In the Empire Strikes back the Snow Speeder pilots wear >yellow visors that presumable pull down from their helmets. (Does Luke also 47,48c46 >> >I've never seen trans-yellow ones, and I've been collecting Space since= its >> >I've never seen trans-yellow ones, and I've been collecting Space since its 51,54c49,50 >> >I suggested trans-yellow because they haven't made trans-orange yet.= And I >> >don't consider the neon style trans-orange from Ice Planet and other= themes >> >I suggested trans-yellow because they haven't made trans-orange yet. And I >> >don't consider the neon style trans-orange from Ice Planet and other themes 60,61c56 >> >>We have trans yellow visors. I can't for the life of me remember= where >> >>We have trans yellow visors. I can't for the life of me remember where 66d60
lugnet.starwars:2334 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 17 Lines: 16 28,29c29 >It's unfortunate, too. That's one less female face I want to use in my= Town >It's unfortunate, too. That's one less female face I want to use in my Town 37d36
lugnet.starwars:2335 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 33 Lines: 26 31,36c32,34 >>eyebrows/beard are lower than on the others. I don't have a scanner, so= I >>can't really show you what I mean, but the eyebrows are low enough that= they >>touch the top of his little beady eyes, giving him a rather angry (or, if= you >>eyebrows/beard are lower than on the others. I don't have a scanner, so I >>can't really show you what I mean, but the eyebrows are low enough that they >>touch the top of his little beady eyes, giving him a rather angry (or, if you 40,43c38,39 >>Does anyone else have a similar head? It's only on one of the four I= have. >>I'm just wondering if it might be some kind of variant (if enough of them= were >>Does anyone else have a similar head? It's only on one of the four I have. >>I'm just wondering if it might be some kind of variant (if enough of them were 46,49c42,43 >I only have one Qui-Gon, so I didn't notice if this is odd, but the= printing on >mine matches your description. I'll have to compare it to the photos on= the >I only have one Qui-Gon, so I didn't notice if this is odd, but the printing on >mine matches your description. I'll have to compare it to the photos on the 53d46
lugnet.starwars:2370 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 44 Lines: 42 24,25c25 >Really, don't read this unless you've seen the movie or are really= apathetic. >Really, don't read this unless you've seen the movie or are really apathetic. 57,58c57 >The coolest thing about the Darth Maul minifig? The ability to recreate= his >The coolest thing about the Darth Maul minifig? The ability to recreate his 64d62
lugnet.starwars:2390 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 111 Lines: 108 22,23c23 >On Thu, 20 May 1999 12:48:38 GMT, "SCOTT R DENNETT" <dennett@agate.net>= wrote: >On Thu, 20 May 1999 12:48:38 GMT, "SCOTT R DENNETT" <dennett@agate.net> wrote: 29c29 >>>Really, don't read this unless you've seen the movie or are really=3D >>>Really, don't read this unless you've seen the movie or are really= 62,63c62 >>>The coolest thing about the Darth Maul minifig? The ability to= recreate=3D >>>The coolest thing about the Darth Maul minifig? The ability to recreate= 126,127c125 Sorry Terry, but I just started reading the book last night so I'll= probably Sorry Terry, but I just started reading the book last night so I'll probably 131d128
lugnet.starwars:2391 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 22 Lines: 20 20c21 On 5/21/99, at 11:15 AM, Sel=E7uk <teyyareci> wrote: On 5/21/99, at 11:15 AM, Selçuk <teyyareci> wrote: 30,31c31 >exactly. Try LeoCAD and/or Ldraw/Ledit (and its companions LDlite and= LDAO) >exactly. Try LeoCAD and/or Ldraw/Ledit (and its companions LDlite and LDAO) 34c34 >Sel=E7uk >Selçuk 36,37c36 But with the number of pieces used in that TIE, you'd have many submodels= to But with the number of pieces used in that TIE, you'd have many submodels to 42d40
lugnet.starwars:2413 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 117 Lines: 105 31,34c32,33 >Speaking of criticism, here are my top 10 peeves for the movie -- and= don't >get me wrong -- I *loved* it indelibly -- but it couldda been a lot= better. >Speaking of criticism, here are my top 10 peeves for the movie -- and don't >get me wrong -- I *loved* it indelibly -- but it couldda been a lot better. 58,59c57 >10. First 15 minutes of the movie are goofy -- even Jedi ought to show= some >10. First 15 minutes of the movie are goofy -- even Jedi ought to show some 72,73c70 > it's possible that the expression on Maul's face before Obi-Wan= jumped > it's possible that the expression on Maul's face before Obi-Wan jumped 76,81c73,76 Hmm, I think not. If you were Maul and you were looking down at your enemy= as he is abou to die, and then he is suddenly behind you with a lightsaber in= his hand I don't think you would have been exactly prepared. There is that shock= factor. Hmm, I think not. If you were Maul and you were looking down at your enemy as he is abou to die, and then he is suddenly behind you with a lightsaber in his hand I don't think you would have been exactly prepared. There is that shock factor. 86c81 > reminded me of a flat, bendy McDonald's happy meal toy. =3D[B^p > reminded me of a flat, bendy McDonald's happy meal toy. =[B^p 105,106c100 > 1. Jar-Jar and his doofus voice nearly ruin the movie! The only thing= he > 1. Jar-Jar and his doofus voice nearly ruin the movie! The only thing he 109,112c103,104 > In fact, none of the Gungans in the battle at the end added anything= to > the story...it was Anakin alone who destroyed all of the battle= droids > In fact, none of the Gungans in the battle at the end added anything to > the story...it was Anakin alone who destroyed all of the battle droids 117,122c109,112 just going to be able to walk into the hanger, steal back a few of their= ships and go destroy the mother-ship?? I think not. There needed to be some sort of a= distraction. Oh, and you complain Jar Jar almost ruined the movie, well= your'e just going to be able to walk into the hanger, steal back a few of their ships and go destroy the mother-ship?? I think not. There needed to be some sort of a distraction. Oh, and you complain Jar Jar almost ruined the movie, well your'e 127,130c117,119 What?!?! Talk about contradictory! You found fault with a quarter of the= major stuff, but you still call it outstanding?!?! Maybe you ought to read the= book, it What?!?! Talk about contradictory! You found fault with a quarter of the major stuff, but you still call it outstanding?!?! Maybe you ought to read the book, it 137d125
lugnet.starwars:2449 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 39 Lines: 35 34,35c35 >>On Mon, 24 May 1999 02:32:27 GMT, Pat Justison= <pat.justison@mail.utexas.edu> >>On Mon, 24 May 1999 02:32:27 GMT, Pat Justison <pat.justison@mail.utexas.edu> 45,48c45,46 >>If you submit a low-quality rendering, how could that not affect the= judges >>opinion? If the image appears blocky or pixelated, it would be human= nature >>If you submit a low-quality rendering, how could that not affect the judges >>opinion? If the image appears blocky or pixelated, it would be human nature 54,55c52 >I'm fine with this as long as a POV-rendered model isn't chosen over an= LDraw >I'm fine with this as long as a POV-rendered model isn't chosen over an LDraw 59d55
lugnet.starwars:2490 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 41 Lines: 40 49,50c50 >At the end of TPM, Yoda and Mace were discussing the Sith, and I believe= that >At the end of TPM, Yoda and Mace were discussing the Sith, and I believe that 53,54c53,54 >So what about the end of RotJ, where both Vader and the Emporer (I don't= remember >So what about the end of RotJ, where both Vader and the Emporer (I don't >remember 61d60
lugnet.starwars:2495 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 38 Lines: 35 25,26c26 >>It was the same in the movie. It was just uttered once and by Kitster= not >>It was the same in the movie. It was just uttered once and by Kitster not 29,30c29 >>I think thats probably a good thing. I would have hated for that phrase= to >>I think thats probably a good thing. I would have hated for that phrase to 52,53c51 Yeh, but I bought the Hasbro figure of Anakin for a collector's item and= one Yeh, but I bought the Hasbro figure of Anakin for a collector's item and one 58d55
lugnet.starwars:2509 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 40 Lines: 36 40,41c41 >> > 1. The paint on the R2 unit heads should have gone down the sides a= bit >> > 1. The paint on the R2 unit heads should have gone down the sides a bit 44,49c44,46 >> > 1. The Hoth soldier in the Snowspeeder set comes with a brown visor.= WHY >> > weren't the rebel pilots' helmets given this feature? We could have= had >> > trans-yellow visors for the first time, and it would have looked= great! >> > 1. The Hoth soldier in the Snowspeeder set comes with a brown visor. WHY >> > weren't the rebel pilots' helmets given this feature? We could have had >> > trans-yellow visors for the first time, and it would have looked great! 60d56
lugnet.starwars:2655 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 46 Lines: 41 29,30c30 >Didn't we find out the the forest moon of Endor has a desert climate in= one >Didn't we find out the the forest moon of Endor has a desert climate in one 34,35c34 >ewoks and some others had to trudge across the cracked desert to get to= some >ewoks and some others had to trudge across the cracked desert to get to some 49,50c48 >Also the climates of these places could be more variable then we= see(colder >Also the climates of these places could be more variable then we see(colder 53,54c51 >I should get back to work studying the paleoclimates of the western Gulf= of >I should get back to work studying the paleoclimates of the western Gulf of 60,61c57 >>Endor (always referred to as "the forest moon"), and Hoth (usually= referred >>Endor (always referred to as "the forest moon"), and Hoth (usually referred 66d61
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lugnet.starwars:2688 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 36 Lines: 29 24,25c25 > Overall, I thought it was a great movie, the special effects were= stunning, and > Overall, I thought it was a great movie, the special effects were stunning, and 27,35c27,33 >Federation. Do all bad guys go to the Bad Guy school of Idiocy? Ugh, can= you >imagine having one source for all droid communication? Where's the backup?= I like the battle droids but they were way too reckless. I mean it was= like, "Oh, look! A Jedi! I wonder what he's going to do with that lightsaber!? Oh, I just found= out." They were quick >Federation. Do all bad guys go to the Bad Guy school of Idiocy? Ugh, can you >imagine having one source for all droid communication? Where's the backup? I like the battle droids but they were way too reckless. I mean it was like, "Oh, look! A Jedi! I wonder what he's going to do with that lightsaber!? Oh, I just found out." They were quick 39,44c37,39 > The only other suggestion was Darth Maul, for being as publicized as he= was, he >sure didn't have much of a part. I think the pilots of the Queens ship= (Looked >like a chrome SR-71 Blackbird, BTW, for all you military jet buffs out= there) > The only other suggestion was Darth Maul, for being as publicized as he was, he >sure didn't have much of a part. I think the pilots of the Queens ship (Looked >like a chrome SR-71 Blackbird, BTW, for all you military jet buffs out there) 47,48c42,43 I knew it reminded me of some real plane. I think I'll check a picture to= see how close it I knew it reminded me of some real plane. I think I'll check a picture to see how close it 51,52c46 > It was a great movie, now I am looking forward to changing about half the= Lego > It was a great movie, now I am looking forward to changing about half the Lego 56d49
lugnet.starwars:3148 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20c21 On 6/24/99, at 9:31 AM, Fredrik Gl=F6ckner wrote: On 6/24/99, at 9:31 AM, Fredrik Glöckner wrote: 36d36
lugnet.starwars:3480 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 33c34 On 8/18/1999, at 12:03 PM, Ralph D=F6ring wrote: On 8/18/1999, at 12:03 PM, Ralph Döring wrote: 37c38 >after 4 months of work with a few breaks in between, I=B4ve >after 4 months of work with a few breaks in between, I´ve 42c43 >You can have a first look, as I=B4ve roughly put together a >You can have a first look, as I´ve roughly put together a 49c50 >out (about 1979). Since then I=B4m a big fan of LEGO-Space. But >out (about 1979). Since then I´m a big fan of LEGO-Space. But 54c55 >With TLG=B4s release of Star Wars models, I started building >With TLG´s release of Star Wars models, I started building 56c57 >your models, ldraws, TLG=B4s models, Episode One, the >your models, ldraws, TLG´s models, Episode One, the 62c63 >Now I=B4m running out of bricks, but I=B4m addicted... >Now I´m running out of bricks, but I´m addicted... 65d65
lugnet.starwars:3836 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 27c28 On 10/14/1999, at 10:03 AM, Ralph D=F6ring wrote: On 10/14/1999, at 10:03 AM, Ralph Döring wrote: 29c30 >Was I blind ? Boba Fett ! I hope you=B4re right. Now I can=B4t sleep ... >Was I blind ? Boba Fett ! I hope you´re right. Now I can´t sleep ... 33c34 >d=F6 >dö 40c41 >>"Ralph D=F6ring" wrote: >>"Ralph Döring" wrote: 42c43 >>> Does anyone know what=B4ll happen in less than 20 hours at >>> Does anyone know what´ll happen in less than 20 hours at 46c47 >>> d=F6 >>> dö 61,62c62 >>=93The more people I meet, the more I like my Lego collection.=94 >>“The more people I meet, the more I like my Lego collection.”
lugnet.starwars:3840 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 28c29 On 10/14/1999, at 10:20 AM, Ralph D=F6ring wrote: On 10/14/1999, at 10:20 AM, Ralph Döring wrote: 34c35 >The helmet is closed & Vader=B4s got a grey head with scars. >The helmet is closed & Vader´s got a grey head with scars. 39c40 >It=B4s a normal plate. >It´s a normal plate. 44,46c45,46 >Hope these are the answers you=B4re looking for. >Cheers, d=F6 >Hope these are the answers you´re looking for. >Cheers, dö
lugnet.starwars:3851 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 30c31 On 10/14/1999, at 12:09 PM, Eric Hampusg=E5rd wrote: On 10/14/1999, at 12:09 PM, Eric Hampusgård wrote: 42c43 >at 14 hours. =3D] >at 14 hours. =] 45d45
lugnet.starwars:4658 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 62 Lines: 51 27,28c28 "Sel=E7uk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> on 11/19/99 10:51= :08 AM "Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> on 11/19/99 10:51:08 AM 30c30 Please respond to "Sel=E7uk <teyyareci>" <sgore@superonline.com> Please respond to "Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@superonline.com> 38d37 = 60,61c59 > I don't know about you, but if I had that Delorean, I'd get a brand n= ew > I don't know about you, but if I had that Delorean, I'd get a brand new 67,80c65,67 You've just touched my deepest dream regarding Legos. Actually, the set= that I would take would not be a space set (as several people already knows,= space sucks..:-) but the concept is just the one I daydreamed several t= imes. Sel=E7uk = You've just touched my deepest dream regarding Legos. Actually, the set that I would take would not be a space set (as several people already knows, space sucks..:-) but the concept is just the one I daydreamed several times. 81a69 Selçuk
lugnet.starwars:6739 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 42 Lines: 34 27,31c28,30 > In lugnet.starwars, Tim Saup=E9 writes: >>I am curious, as I don't have an extensive knowledge of LEGO. Sebulba is= a >>"piece", and characters that are made of parts like Pit Droids or Gasgano= are > In lugnet.starwars, Tim Saupé writes: >>I am curious, as I don't have an extensive knowledge of LEGO. Sebulba is a >>"piece", and characters that are made of parts like Pit Droids or Gasgano are 36,37c35 > There was a big conversation about this a while back. What it all boils = down > There was a big conversation about this a while back. What it all boils down 40,43c38,39 > In my view, Pit Droids aren't "minifigs", nor is Sebulba. It is tempting= for > me to say that what draws the line for me is legs and torso w/arms (as in= , > In my view, Pit Droids aren't "minifigs", nor is Sebulba. It is tempting for > me to say that what draws the line for me is legs and torso w/arms (as in, 45,46c41 > have to be there) with whatever head... I think of Jar Jar as a minifig, = but > have to be there) with whatever head... I think of Jar Jar as a minifig, but 50,53c45,46 > But the problem is that I feel that there are other things that are minif= igs > that don't fit that rule- ghosts are minifigs, IMHO, and they don't have = legs. > But the problem is that I feel that there are other things that are minifigs > that don't fit that rule- ghosts are minifigs, IMHO, and they don't have legs. 61d53
lugnet.starwars:8759 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 29 36c37 >Subject: Attn: Ralph D=F6ring >Subject: Attn: Ralph Döring 40,46c41,44 > Mr D=F6ring, > Why is it that when I mailed you my entry to the SW design contest a long= time > ago still isn't posted on your site? And why haven't you replied to all t= he e- > mails I've sent you afterwards? This is my last possible way to reach you= so > Mr Döring, > Why is it that when I mailed you my entry to the SW design contest a long time > ago still isn't posted on your site? And why haven't you replied to all the e- > mails I've sent you afterwards? This is my last possible way to reach you so 51d48
lugnet.starwars:10358 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 70 Lines: 67 21,36c22,35 Well, it seems very quiet here on LUGNET tonight, which is = understandable, most people are probably galavanting about, going to = relatives, shopping, or whatever in preparation for Christmas, or = whatever holiday you celebrate around this time of year. I am actually = home alone in my condo, my wife is at her mom's baking cookies or = something, my roommates are at their parent's homes, and I have to wait = until tomorrow so I can transport my sister to my mom's house. So, after = filling and shipping all of my orders, I actually had some... free time! = : ) I decided to build the imperial Shuttle, and I must say I am impressed. = It is very swooshable, and pretty sturdy. It looks neat, and it is fun = just to land and put it back and forth in fly and landing mode. I think = it is commendable for what they did and what they were able to translate = into LEGO sets (AT-ST excluded, mind you!) , which has for the most part = been in the Star Wars line.=20 Well, it seems very quiet here on LUGNET tonight, which is understandable, most people are probably galavanting about, going to relatives, shopping, or whatever in preparation for Christmas, or whatever holiday you celebrate around this time of year. I am actually home alone in my condo, my wife is at her mom's baking cookies or something, my roommates are at their parent's homes, and I have to wait until tomorrow so I can transport my sister to my mom's house. So, after filling and shipping all of my orders, I actually had some... free time! : ) I decided to build the imperial Shuttle, and I must say I am impressed. It is very swooshable, and pretty sturdy. It looks neat, and it is fun just to land and put it back and forth in fly and landing mode. I think it is commendable for what they did and what they were able to translate into LEGO sets (AT-ST excluded, mind you!) , which has for the most part been in the Star Wars line. 43c42 4) Dark Gray Laser guns! I love em!=20 4) Dark Gray Laser guns! I love em! 45c44 5) Good looks, the top wing is fairly solid, the wings are stable.=20 5) Good looks, the top wing is fairly solid, the wings are stable. 50,70c49,68 1) Why oh why are there so many non white parts?! It looks like it came = from Watto's junkyard or something! It is all right, most sets are like = this anyway, I will change them, but still a little goofy.=20 2) The interior is too short for minifigs to stand up. Won't be hard to = fix, the cockpit will be a little tricky however.=20 3) I really don't like the 6x8 cockpit, they needed to put a hinge or = something on it. The paint in front is not too thick, and the = trans-smoke is showing.=20 4) Cockpit needs some work, as well as connection. Too bad they can't = get a flexible tube or something part to connect the two parts, that = might work well for all the train creations as well.=20 =20 Overall, I am pretty impressed with this set, with the minifigures, and = the overall neat design, with a little work, can be a real neat set. The = nice thing about the Star Wars line is a good selection of parts, and a = good point to do some custom modifications to it by yourself. I am = planning on integrating this one into my ADF Fleet at some point.=20 Since this is the first set I have built in 5 or 6 months, I am pretty = satisfied, it is nice to have a little time for my own LEGO items for a = change. Keep up the good work, LEGO, I am impressed.=20 1) Why oh why are there so many non white parts?! It looks like it came from Watto's junkyard or something! It is all right, most sets are like this anyway, I will change them, but still a little goofy. 2) The interior is too short for minifigs to stand up. Won't be hard to fix, the cockpit will be a little tricky however. 3) I really don't like the 6x8 cockpit, they needed to put a hinge or something on it. The paint in front is not too thick, and the trans-smoke is showing. 4) Cockpit needs some work, as well as connection. Too bad they can't get a flexible tube or something part to connect the two parts, that might work well for all the train creations as well. Overall, I am pretty impressed with this set, with the minifigures, and the overall neat design, with a little work, can be a real neat set. The nice thing about the Star Wars line is a good selection of parts, and a good point to do some custom modifications to it by yourself. I am planning on integrating this one into my ADF Fleet at some point. Since this is the first set I have built in 5 or 6 months, I am pretty satisfied, it is nice to have a little time for my own LEGO items for a change. Keep up the good work, LEGO, I am impressed. 77c75 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner =20 Scott E. Sanburn, Owner
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lugnet.technic:78 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 69c70 becoming more and more apparent.=20 becoming more and more apparent. 78c79 have genuine complaints about the set themes we do collect.=20 have genuine complaints about the set themes we do collect. 125c126 numbers of AFOL since Mindstorms and Star Wars sets being released?=20 numbers of AFOL since Mindstorms and Star Wars sets being released? 244d244
lugnet.technic:79 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 87 Lines: 85 19,22c20,21 >I have been heavily into the Technic stuff, but there isn't much coming = out >in that venue lately so I'm looking at two of my other old time = favorites, >I have been heavily into the Technic stuff, but there isn't much coming out >in that venue lately so I'm looking at two of my other old time favorites, 29c28 =46orgive the following if you already own one... Personally, I'll be Forgive the following if you already own one... Personally, I'll be 83c82 =20 106d104
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lugnet.technic:113 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 23c24 =46redrik, can you tell us which is larger by weight? Fredrik, can you tell us which is larger by weight? 29d29
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lugnet.technic:2768 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 151 Lines: 138 19,70c20,66 Let me begin by stating that I think Lego is one of the best companies = on the planet. My experience with them is that they make an excellent = product which they stand behind with spectacular customer service. They = also usually listen to customer input. This is not a rant against Lego. = It's a rant hoping to eventually convince Lego to change their policy a = little bit. I find myself somewhat disappointed by the recent changes = in the Technic line and I'd like to know who else out there shares my = opinion. Perhaps a letter to TLG may be in order. (You may skip the = next few paragraphs if you aren't interested in a brief history of the = Lego robotics concept.) I'm a bit nostalgic when it comes to Lego. In my closet rest the boxes = of the best sets produced by Lego. The 8880 Super Car, 8868 Crane = Truck, and 8480 Space Shuttle come to mind. Scattered throughout the = room are the actual sets, not to mention the results of too much free = time and a whole bunch of spare parts. 4 years ago, I bought a Control = Lab (not to be confused with 8094 Control Center or its sequel) from = Lego Dacta. That was the ultimate. The language was surprisingly nice = complete with graphical interface capabilities and the part assortment = was pretty good. The only down side to it was that it had to be wired = to a computer. You could fool around with infrared serial ports and = such, but the model would have to be pretty big to hold the interface. = Most of the time, it was fine wired to the PC and all was good. = Unfortunately, the price of a complete set was about $700 (included the = interface, cables, software, 3 motors, 5 sensors plus 3 more that I = bought separately, and a nice assortment of parts). The price made it = rather elite, though it was a spectacular thing to have. (I should = point out that this was not Dacta's first Lego-computer interface. = There had been a previous version that used the old 4.5 volt motors. I = got to play with one of those a few years before I decided to buy the = new 9 volt version.) =20 A few years later, Lego decided they should market a smaller version for = the average user who may or may not know anything about programming. = The result was the RCX (a greatly simplified version of the MIT smart = brick) and the whole Mindstorms series. At first, this seemed like a = great idea to me as the masses discovered the joy of Lego robotics. = Naturally, I eventually broke down and bought one. I had already seen = the "language" which was, of course, a bit of a disappointment, though I = was impressed by the fact that Lego actually encouraged third-party = software. However, searching through the box, I discovered the lack of = traditional Technic pieces in the set. There weren't too many gears, = for starters. I was encouraged by the discovery of a differential = (perhaps the most overlooked part in Lego), but discovered that none of = the designs in the instructions used it. Perhaps the best part was the = inclusion of the new high-torque motors. Then I discovered that the = high-torque motors were being used so no gearing at all was necessary. = The motor connected to the wheel - one on each side. That was it. No = fancy adder-subtracter tank mechanisms. No transmissions. Just direct = connections. The tremendous oversimplification was, of course, part of = the goal here - simplify the process for the young newbies. That seemed = a decent enough purpose, so I just took out my spare part boxes and = Let me begin by stating that I think Lego is one of the best companies on the planet. My experience with them is that they make an excellent product which they stand behind with spectacular customer service. They also usually listen to customer input. This is not a rant against Lego. It's a rant hoping to eventually convince Lego to change their policy a little bit. I find myself somewhat disappointed by the recent changes in the Technic line and I'd like to know who else out there shares my opinion. Perhaps a letter to TLG may be in order. (You may skip the next few paragraphs if you aren't interested in a brief history of the Lego robotics concept.) I'm a bit nostalgic when it comes to Lego. In my closet rest the boxes of the best sets produced by Lego. The 8880 Super Car, 8868 Crane Truck, and 8480 Space Shuttle come to mind. Scattered throughout the room are the actual sets, not to mention the results of too much free time and a whole bunch of spare parts. 4 years ago, I bought a Control Lab (not to be confused with 8094 Control Center or its sequel) from Lego Dacta. That was the ultimate. The language was surprisingly nice complete with graphical interface capabilities and the part assortment was pretty good. The only down side to it was that it had to be wired to a computer. You could fool around with infrared serial ports and such, but the model would have to be pretty big to hold the interface. Most of the time, it was fine wired to the PC and all was good. Unfortunately, the price of a complete set was about $700 (included the interface, cables, software, 3 motors, 5 sensors plus 3 more that I bought separately, and a nice assortment of parts). The price made it rather elite, though it was a spectacular thing to have. (I should point out that this was not Dacta's first Lego-computer interface. There had been a previous version that used the old 4.5 volt motors. I got to play with one of those a few years before I decided to buy the new 9 volt version.) A few years later, Lego decided they should market a smaller version for the average user who may or may not know anything about programming. The result was the RCX (a greatly simplified version of the MIT smart brick) and the whole Mindstorms series. At first, this seemed like a great idea to me as the masses discovered the joy of Lego robotics. Naturally, I eventually broke down and bought one. I had already seen the "language" which was, of course, a bit of a disappointment, though I was impressed by the fact that Lego actually encouraged third-party software. However, searching through the box, I discovered the lack of traditional Technic pieces in the set. There weren't too many gears, for starters. I was encouraged by the discovery of a differential (perhaps the most overlooked part in Lego), but discovered that none of the designs in the instructions used it. Perhaps the best part was the inclusion of the new high-torque motors. Then I discovered that the high-torque motors were being used so no gearing at all was necessary. The motor connected to the wheel - one on each side. That was it. No fancy adder-subtracter tank mechanisms. No transmissions. Just direct connections. The tremendous oversimplification was, of course, part of the goal here - simplify the process for the young newbies. That seemed a decent enough purpose, so I just took out my spare part boxes and 73,153c69,141 That was about 2 years ago. What's happened since then? Well, there = have been a couple of expansions for Mindstorms.... none is too great or = offers any better part assortment. There have also been two new = versions of the Mindstorms set. About the most significant change is = the inclusion of a slip gear and a couple of the new parts (more on = those later). Meanwhile, Lego has gradually reduced more sets based on = the simplicity concept. The Throwbots and Robo-Riders come to mind. = There are little cars with no gears at all that more closely resemble = the Town cars than even the simple cars one used to build with the = Universal series. Each new catalog contains fewer and fewer of the = traditional sets we all know and love. Most frightening is the gradual disappearance of the studed brick. = These new parts started off as decorative pieces on a few sets. Then = they began to comprise the whole of sets like the Throwbots. Before = long there were all these little sets built entirely out of the new = pieces and the studed brick was no where to be found. Looking through = the new catalog, about the only decent source of studed bricks are the = Silver Champion, and Power Puller. (I don't have it in front of me, but = I don't think the Super Street Sensation is in there anymore.) = Everything else contains few or none. The Super Street Sensation and = Silver Champion don't contain too many studed bricks either. Only the = Power Puller is primarily composed of the good 'ol bricks. These sets don't have nearly the functionality of the old ones either. = Personally, I don't think the great functionality of the old sets can be = reproduced with these new pieces. They aren't nearly as versatile. The = incredible multitude of uses of a standard studed brick was = mind-blowing. That's gone. The gears are gone too. Some sets have a = few, but nothing like the old days. The Silver Champion is a good = example of this problem. The set looks very nice, but it has virtually = no functionality. It steers, the shocks work, and the hood goes up. = That's it. Compare that to the functionality of the original Super Car. = It had 4-wheel steering, 4-wheel independent suspension, 4-wheel drive, = a 4 speed transmission, moveable headlights, and a working trunk. (I = may have missed some). It's kind of disappointing. I think the vast = majority of users would trade good looks for improved functionality. Even if Lego did want to start producing sets high functionality, I = don't think they could with these new pieces. I've tried. They simply = aren't as practical or versatile for most situations. The Throwbot = pieces are the worst, because most are completely useless (i.e.. = ball-and-socket joints are way too stiff to use for anything). = Personally, I hardly ever use them. I just go back to my part boxes. = While they were busy switching to the new pieces, Lego also dumped some = old pieces they figured they had replaced. Notable are the notched 1/2 = bushings, and both types of connectors. There exist a number of = situations where these parts are simply more practical than their = replacements. I also noted that Lego still doesn't have bulk Tectonic elements. I = wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that one. I doubt they'd make a = bulk studed beam one anyway. We'll probably see a bulk pack of angle = beams first.... I started writing this because I just took a look at the 2001 = mini-catalog. Looking through the Technic section, I see a great deal = of space devoted to this new version of the Throwbots. In fact, this = catalog does not show a single set that would have been classified as a = regular set 5 years ago. These are all just mini-sets. The best things = in there are the new C-3PO and Storm Trooper. Those also seem to lack = functionality and also don't look great. I noted that most of the ages = are much lower than usual, as well. A lot of sets are aimed at children = under 10. I suppose they're trying to get the younger, more impatient, = individuals involved in Technic, but this isn't the Technic I grew up = with. I know these mini-catalogs usually leave out the big sets, but = one would hope to see something.... I grew up with Technic. I still consider Technic to be an excellent = prototyping tool and educational toy. But I don't know about this new = stuff. It just doesn't have the versatility. I don't want to see it = replace the studed beam. I like the idea of trying to introduce more = young ones to Technic, but it doesn't have to get this simple. If there = are enough people out there who agree with me, perhaps we should write a = petition. Lego listens to their customers. They've maintained the = relations of a family owned business coupled with the advantages of a = global corporation. That is what sets Lego apart. They will listen. = What does everyone else thing of this trend toward the simple and = cosmetic? Respond and let us know. If anyone out there is affiliated = with TLG, it'd be nice to know what the Lego stance on all of this is. = Tell me it's just a phase! That was about 2 years ago. What's happened since then? Well, there have been a couple of expansions for Mindstorms.... none is too great or offers any better part assortment. There have also been two new versions of the Mindstorms set. About the most significant change is the inclusion of a slip gear and a couple of the new parts (more on those later). Meanwhile, Lego has gradually reduced more sets based on the simplicity concept. The Throwbots and Robo-Riders come to mind. There are little cars with no gears at all that more closely resemble the Town cars than even the simple cars one used to build with the Universal series. Each new catalog contains fewer and fewer of the traditional sets we all know and love. Most frightening is the gradual disappearance of the studed brick. These new parts started off as decorative pieces on a few sets. Then they began to comprise the whole of sets like the Throwbots. Before long there were all these little sets built entirely out of the new pieces and the studed brick was no where to be found. Looking through the new catalog, about the only decent source of studed bricks are the Silver Champion, and Power Puller. (I don't have it in front of me, but I don't think the Super Street Sensation is in there anymore.) Everything else contains few or none. The Super Street Sensation and Silver Champion don't contain too many studed bricks either. Only the Power Puller is primarily composed of the good 'ol bricks. These sets don't have nearly the functionality of the old ones either. Personally, I don't think the great functionality of the old sets can be reproduced with these new pieces. They aren't nearly as versatile. The incredible multitude of uses of a standard studed brick was mind-blowing. That's gone. The gears are gone too. Some sets have a few, but nothing like the old days. The Silver Champion is a good example of this problem. The set looks very nice, but it has virtually no functionality. It steers, the shocks work, and the hood goes up. That's it. Compare that to the functionality of the original Super Car. It had 4-wheel steering, 4-wheel independent suspension, 4-wheel drive, a 4 speed transmission, moveable headlights, and a working trunk. (I may have missed some). It's kind of disappointing. I think the vast majority of users would trade good looks for improved functionality. Even if Lego did want to start producing sets high functionality, I don't think they could with these new pieces. I've tried. They simply aren't as practical or versatile for most situations. The Throwbot pieces are the worst, because most are completely useless (i.e.. ball-and-socket joints are way too stiff to use for anything). Personally, I hardly ever use them. I just go back to my part boxes. While they were busy switching to the new pieces, Lego also dumped some old pieces they figured they had replaced. Notable are the notched 1/2 bushings, and both types of connectors. There exist a number of situations where these parts are simply more practical than their replacements. I also noted that Lego still doesn't have bulk Tectonic elements. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that one. I doubt they'd make a bulk studed beam one anyway. We'll probably see a bulk pack of angle beams first.... I started writing this because I just took a look at the 2001 mini-catalog. Looking through the Technic section, I see a great deal of space devoted to this new version of the Throwbots. In fact, this catalog does not show a single set that would have been classified as a regular set 5 years ago. These are all just mini-sets. The best things in there are the new C-3PO and Storm Trooper. Those also seem to lack functionality and also don't look great. I noted that most of the ages are much lower than usual, as well. A lot of sets are aimed at children under 10. I suppose they're trying to get the younger, more impatient, individuals involved in Technic, but this isn't the Technic I grew up with. I know these mini-catalogs usually leave out the big sets, but one would hope to see something.... I grew up with Technic. I still consider Technic to be an excellent prototyping tool and educational toy. But I don't know about this new stuff. It just doesn't have the versatility. I don't want to see it replace the studed beam. I like the idea of trying to introduce more young ones to Technic, but it doesn't have to get this simple. If there are enough people out there who agree with me, perhaps we should write a petition. Lego listens to their customers. They've maintained the relations of a family owned business coupled with the advantages of a global corporation. That is what sets Lego apart. They will listen. What does everyone else thing of this trend toward the simple and cosmetic? Respond and let us know. If anyone out there is affiliated with TLG, it'd be nice to know what the Lego stance on all of this is. Tell me it's just a phase!
lugnet.technic:4263 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 21 Lines: 20 19,20c20,21 Has anyone tried (successfully, or not...) to create working models or = systems using both of these items together? Has anyone tried (successfully, or not...) to create working models or systems using both of these items together? 22,27c23,27 I'm guessing that I could use a mechanical feedback circuit (like 8868 = alt. model / 8479) to trigger the RCX from the actions of the = Cybermaster, and vice-versa, but I haven't had the chance to try it yet. = Is there any good way of making them interact electronically? (other = than just linking the same touch sensor to inputs on both to trigger = different actions, say) I'm guessing that I could use a mechanical feedback circuit (like 8868 alt. model / 8479) to trigger the RCX from the actions of the Cybermaster, and vice-versa, but I haven't had the chance to try it yet. Is there any good way of making them interact electronically? (other than just linking the same touch sensor to inputs on both to trigger different actions, say)
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lugnet.technic:6004 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 44 Lines: 41 23,24c24 The LeoCad not run in my computer and MLCad is good but is too dificult = to The LeoCad not run in my computer and MLCad is good but is too dificult to 44,47c44,45 >If you're looking for MLCad, that's here: = http://www.lm-software.com/mlcad/ >Alternatively, go to www.google.com, type in leocad or mlcad and click = "I'm >If you're looking for MLCad, that's here: http://www.lm-software.com/mlcad/ >Alternatively, go to www.google.com, type in leocad or mlcad and click "I'm
lugnet.technic:6040 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 24,25c25,26 In past, the Web Page are frequently updated and now is not... The = Empire Wasn't Built in a Day stays a lot of weeks (months) In past, the Web Page are frequently updated and now is not... The Empire Wasn't Built in a Day stays a lot of weeks (months)
lugnet.technic:8024 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 16c17 Lines: 22 Lines: 20 22,23c23 acting cylinders were introduced by LEGO. = acting cylinders were introduced by LEGO. 30c30 =A0 33,34c33 -- = -- 39c38 =2E.. where air is power! ... where air is power!
lugnet.technic:8504 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 28 Lines: 22 20,26c21,24 "=D8yvind Steinnes" wrote: > = > Does anybody know if there are some electrical controlled pneumatic val= ves > (magnetic valves) aviable for Lego that can be controlled trough a RCX = unit "Øyvind Steinnes" wrote: > > Does anybody know if there are some electrical controlled pneumatic valves > (magnetic valves) aviable for Lego that can be controlled trough a RCX unit 28,29c26 > = > 36,37c33 > = > 41,42c37 -- = -- 47c42 =2E.. where air is power! ... where air is power!
lugnet.technic:8519 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 20,21c21,22 =D8yvind Steinnes writes: > I've never tried this before, so could anyone give me some=20 Øyvind Steinnes writes: > I've never tried this before, so could anyone give me some 24,25c25,26 > I have pictures, movies, games, and lots of other info about=20 > the car, but don't know where to start and what I have to=20 > I have pictures, movies, games, and lots of other info about > the car, but don't know where to start and what I have to 48d48
lugnet.technic:10084 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 21c22 How many variations of Technic Wedge Belt Wheel (4185) exists? I found 5 = How many variations of Technic Wedge Belt Wheel (4185) exists? I found 5 24c25 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D40663 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=40663
lugnet.technic:10162 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 40 Lines: 36 20,26c21,25 i was just wondering if anyone has bought the Technology Resource Set=20 #979649 from pitsco? it is on page 9 of their 2003 catalog. this looks=20 like a pretty large set. the description is not very good but the picture= =20 makes it look like there is a lot in this set. i was just wondering if=20 anyone could elaborate on the number and the selection of parts? maybe an= =20 i was just wondering if anyone has bought the Technology Resource Set #979649 from pitsco? it is on page 9 of their 2003 catalog. this looks like a pretty large set. the description is not very good but the picture makes it look like there is a lot in this set. i was just wondering if anyone could elaborate on the number and the selection of parts? maybe an 31,32c30 9-volt motor, battery box, cam wheels, axle extenders, crane hook, wheels,= =20 9-volt motor, battery box, cam wheels, axle extenders, crane hook, wheels, 42,43c40 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 59,60c56 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
lugnet.technic:10199 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 37 Lines: 33 22c23 a friend asked me to build a drawbridge for a train display. so this is=20 a friend asked me to build a drawbridge for a train display. so this is 24c25 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D42077 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=42077 27,28c28 http://www.bizave.com/cgi-bin/photoalbum.cgi?photoalbum=3Dpdxbridges&slideta= g=3DHawthorne http://www.bizave.com/cgi-bin/photoalbum.cgi?photoalbum=pdxbridges&slidetag=Hawthorne 30,33c30,31 there are 3 spans. each span is 96 studs long. the center section lift is= =20 about 64 studs high. the bridge is amazingly strong, though i'm not really= =20 there are 3 spans. each span is 96 studs long. the center section lift is about 64 studs high. the bridge is amazingly strong, though i'm not really 41,42c39 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 57d53
lugnet.technic:10202 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 60 Lines: 55 31c32 >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3D388957 >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=388957 38c39 yes thank you for fixing the link. some how some extra characters got=20 yes thank you for fixing the link. some how some extra characters got 41,47c42,46 i will be showing this at a talent show on may 10th. i just finished it=20 yesterday. it was such a nice day outside and i don't really have a flat=20 surface long enough to set it up in my house, so i set it up outside. i=20 made this bridge from pictures of the real bridge and a little inspiration= =20 from TJ Avery. the hawthorne bridge is about a mile away from my office so= =20 i will be showing this at a talent show on may 10th. i just finished it yesterday. it was such a nice day outside and i don't really have a flat surface long enough to set it up in my house, so i set it up outside. i made this bridge from pictures of the real bridge and a little inspiration from TJ Avery. the hawthorne bridge is about a mile away from my office so 50,54c49,51 you are right about synchronizing the motors. one of the motors runs=20 faster than the other. i made the string a little longer on one side. so= =20 when the bridge starts to go up it is a little lopsided, but by the time it= =20 you are right about synchronizing the motors. one of the motors runs faster than the other. i made the string a little longer on one side. so when the bridge starts to go up it is a little lopsided, but by the time it 63,64c60 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 80,81c76 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
lugnet.technic:10219 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 41 Lines: 39 24,28c25,28 the rails on the lift span are not connected to the rest of the=20 rails. there is a separate power connector run to the rails on the lift=20 span. since the rails are not connected, there slopes on the sides to help= =20 keep the rails aligned when the lift span is lowered. if the tracks are=20 the rails on the lift span are not connected to the rest of the rails. there is a separate power connector run to the rails on the lift span. since the rails are not connected, there slopes on the sides to help keep the rails aligned when the lift span is lowered. if the tracks are 35c35 yeah, that was a luck ebay purchase! i'm totally out of black 1 x 16=20 yeah, that was a luck ebay purchase! i'm totally out of black 1 x 16 44,45c44 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 61,62c60 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
lugnet.technic:10220 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 34 Lines: 32 24,29c25,29 your spreadsheet is awesome. it worked great for calculating the length=20 and heights. the only small problem was that the diagonal braces on my=20 bridge all go in one direction, which your spreadsheet does not model. so= =20 your spreadsheet could model half of my diagonal braces. i had to just=20 guess on the others. but it all worked out and was very helpful. thank=20 your spreadsheet is awesome. it worked great for calculating the length and heights. the only small problem was that the diagonal braces on my bridge all go in one direction, which your spreadsheet does not model. so your spreadsheet could model half of my diagonal braces. i had to just guess on the others. but it all worked out and was very helpful. thank 37,38c37 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 54,55c53 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
lugnet.technic:10221 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 33 Lines: 30 23,24c24 >configuration of your news reader. It seems to add a lot of HTML or other= code >configuration of your news reader. It seems to add a lot of HTML or other code 27,28c27 i'm using eudora to read and send to the news group. that is probably what= =20 i'm using eudora to read and send to the news group. that is probably what 36,37c35 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 53,54c51 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
lugnet.technic:10225 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 49 Lines: 46 27,28c28 my description was not that good. here is how the diagonals are on my= bridge: my description was not that good. here is how the diagonals are on my bridge: 38,39c38,39 so only 2 of the diagonals (on half of the span) are not modeled in the=20 spreadsheet. i'm not complaining cause it was so nice to fiddle around=20 so only 2 of the diagonals (on half of the span) are not modeled in the spreadsheet. i'm not complaining cause it was so nice to fiddle around 42,43c42 i did not think about using the other program to model the diagonals going= =20 i did not think about using the other program to model the diagonals going 52,53c51 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 69,70c67 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
lugnet.technic:10355 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 43 Lines: 41 21,22c22,23 i'm not an RC expert nor do i have much electronics experience, but has=20 anyone ever thought about using the circuit from a zipzaps type micro rc=20 i'm not an RC expert nor do i have much electronics experience, but has anyone ever thought about using the circuit from a zipzaps type micro rc 25,29c26,29 according to this=20 page: http://members.aol.com/rchelicam/microszr/microszr.htm you can=20 safely hook up 4 AA batteries to the board with out any problems. this=20 page also explains how to make modifications to be able to add more battery= =20 according to this page: http://members.aol.com/rchelicam/microszr/microszr.htm you can safely hook up 4 AA batteries to the board with out any problems. this page also explains how to make modifications to be able to add more battery 32,35c32,35 am i correct in thinking that this board (with the modification) could=20 control 2 lego motors? this board is so small it would be very easy to=20 hide inside a few bricks. these little cars can be found for around=20 $10. they also come is several different frequencies. the more=20 am i correct in thinking that this board (with the modification) could control 2 lego motors? this board is so small it would be very easy to hide inside a few bricks. these little cars can be found for around $10. they also come is several different frequencies. the more 46,47c46 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 63,64c62 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
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lugnet.town:5397 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 185 Lines: 135 21,22c22 http://www.vanree.net/~kmeijaard/fotoalbum/legoworld_2002/tn/image32.jpg.= html http://www.vanree.net/~kmeijaard/fotoalbum/legoworld_2002/tn/image32.jpg.html 31,35c31,33 >=20 > Today the biggest (and greatest!) Lego Fest ever will find its end. I m= yself > had the chance to attend Legoword 2002 in Zwolle/Netherlands for 3 of t= he 5 > > Today the biggest (and greatest!) Lego Fest ever will find its end. I myself > had the chance to attend Legoword 2002 in Zwolle/Netherlands for 3 of the 5 37c35 >=20 > 39c37 >=20 > 41c39 >=20 > 43c41 >=20 > 45c43 >=20 > 47,50c45,46 > After getting out of bed in the middle of the night I was driving the 3= 90 km > westwards to the Ijsselhallen in Zwolle. I had packed my car the evenin= g > After getting out of bed in the middle of the night I was driving the 390 km > westwards to the Ijsselhallen in Zwolle. I had packed my car the evening 52,60c48,52 >=20 > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till m= embers > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the bigge= st > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I = only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from '= de > > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till members > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the biggest > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from 'de 62,68c54,57 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_m= ood.jpg >=20 > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all = my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is no= t so > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_mood.jpg > > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is not so 70,79c59,63 > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the= train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had = left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track= > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it = when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates wit= h > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates with 81c65 >=20 > 83c67 >=20 > 85,87c69,70 >=20 > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from= the > > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from the 89,91c72,73 >=20 > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. m= ade by > > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. made by 93,95c75,76 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.j= pg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.jpg > 98,106c79,83 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_wor= ld.jpg >=20 > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably = most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big c= rowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms c= ontrol > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_world.jpg > > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big crowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms control 108,110c85,86 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_stat= ion.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_station.jpg > 112,114c88,89 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_schoo= l.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_school.jpg > 117c92 >=20 > 119,121c94,95 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jp= g >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jpg > 123,125c97,98 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts= =2Ejpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts.jpg > 128,132c101,103 >=20 > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving= in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the = signal > > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the signal 134,135c105 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_br= uecke.j > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_bruecke.j 137,139c107,108 >=20 > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending liv= e from > > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending live from 141,143c110,111 >=20 > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables= with > > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables with 145,153c113,117 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.= jpg >=20 > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements lik= e > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show= and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fa= st > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.jpg > > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements like > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fast 155,163c119,123 >=20 > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were all= owed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could sl= ide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30=B0= angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked real= ly > > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were allowed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could slide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30° angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked really 166,172c126,129 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun= =2Ejpg >=20 > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a ne= arly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very ope= n > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun.jpg > > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a nearly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very open 174c131 >=20 > 176c133 >=20 > 178,182c135,137 >=20 > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwstee= n' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Leg= o > > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwsteen' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Lego 184,193c139,144 >=20 > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the p= eople > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted a= nd I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink = support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep..= =2E. >=20 > > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the people > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted and I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep.... > 195c146 >=20 > 198c149 >=20 > 200c151 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D27260 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=27260 203,204c154 >=20 >
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lugnet.trains:2396 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 25c26 >http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=3D6347 >http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?query=6347 27c28 >Cost: =A320.00 - =A317 (about $28) w/o VAT. >Cost: £20.00 - £17 (about $28) w/o VAT. 35d35
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lugnet.trains:9144 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 34 Lines: 33 21,27c22,27 As most of you know, most of us in the Michigan LEGO club are = attending GATS here in Novi, Michigan on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday = this weekend. We were discussing having a flyer of some of the train = related items, such as the train clubs, etc. Larry P. & I were doing a = little talking, and there has been mentioned there have been a few done = already, and it would save everyone a lot of time if we could get a few = ideas from those.=20 As most of you know, most of us in the Michigan LEGO club are attending GATS here in Novi, Michigan on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday this weekend. We were discussing having a flyer of some of the train related items, such as the train clubs, etc. Larry P. & I were doing a little talking, and there has been mentioned there have been a few done already, and it would save everyone a lot of time if we could get a few ideas from those. 29,31c29,31 So, if anyone knows anything about this, or has any other ideas for = this, please respond to this, or personally to me. I am pretty excited, = even though I have all stock trains right now.=20 So, if anyone knows anything about this, or has any other ideas for this, please respond to this, or personally to me. I am pretty excited, even though I have all stock trains right now. 33,34c33,34 I am not sure if this belongs to general or not, so follow ups to trains = if it is the best place. I am not sure if this belongs to general or not, so follow ups to trains if it is the best place.
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lugnet.trains:16964 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 29 Lines: 26 23,24c24,25 but FAR MORE interesting, the link at the bottom of that page. Leads to=20 an extensive set of SantaF=E9 links, including a WebRing. but FAR MORE interesting, the link at the bottom of that page. Leads to an extensive set of SantaFé links, including a WebRing. 36,42c37,40 >=20 > Amazing! That 'bug looks really cool. Makes me wonder if my area used= to > have something like that here in central New Mexico. I think Santa Fe = used > to operate passenger service between here, Socorro, and Magdalena until= the > > Amazing! That 'bug looks really cool. Makes me wonder if my area used to > have something like that here in central New Mexico. I think Santa Fe used > to operate passenger service between here, Socorro, and Magdalena until the 44c42 >=20 > 47,48c45 >=20 >
lugnet.trains:17290 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 >Hey all,=20 >Hey all, 41d41
lugnet.trains:17429 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 33 Lines: 29 19c20 I followed this discussion: fantastic waste of words and webspace! I=20 I followed this discussion: fantastic waste of words and webspace! I 21c22 Ok=E9, my suggestion to make up between you two: Oké, my suggestion to make up between you two: 23,25c24,25 Larry: you design a neat small automatic track-sweaper, to be mounted on = a 9V motor, frontside of course.... Building not necessary, so=20 Larry: you design a neat small automatic track-sweaper, to be mounted on a 9V motor, frontside of course.... Building not necessary, so 27,28c27 Harvey: you build Larry's design, demonstrate the benefit to us, and you = Harvey: you build Larry's design, demonstrate the benefit to us, and you 32c31 I certainly will from time to time, pets and kids make a lot of dust=20 I certainly will from time to time, pets and kids make a lot of dust 40c39 >=20 > 43,47c42,44 >=20 > As to this particular issue, I stand behind my opinion, by and large, i= n > normal use, the 9V track doesn't need regular cleaning. Can it benefit = from > > As to this particular issue, I stand behind my opinion, by and large, in > normal use, the 9V track doesn't need regular cleaning. Can it benefit from 52d48
lugnet.trains:17493 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 35 Lines: 31 22,29c23,26 >Why don't you think the Romans had war chariots? Or do you mean they = just >didn't call them "war chariots" but something else. I'm pretty sure the= Romans >had a military chariot. As for the ruts in paved road, it can happen. = I've >seen ruts several inches deep in solid rock caused by the repetitive = erosion >Why don't you think the Romans had war chariots? Or do you mean they just >didn't call them "war chariots" but something else. I'm pretty sure the Romans >had a military chariot. As for the ruts in paved road, it can happen. I've >seen ruts several inches deep in solid rock caused by the repetitive erosion 47c44 =20 55d51
lugnet.trains:17998 10c10,11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 75 Lines: 65 21c22 I've also done the tire-exchange in the past. And also out of Telekom's=20 I've also done the tire-exchange in the past. And also out of Telekom's 26c27 I've exchanged the Lego-transformer for a standard 6-dollar-one (with 2=20 I've exchanged the Lego-transformer for a standard 6-dollar-one (with 2 30c31 Tested together with Jan-Albert van Ree: 8 (yes eight!) trains together=20 Tested together with Jan-Albert van Ree: 8 (yes eight!) trains together 34c35 I've seen many postings about 'the regulator can't handle these=20 I've seen many postings about 'the regulator can't handle these 38c39 I'll bring one of my transformers to Legoworld, you can see (and test)=20 I'll bring one of my transformers to Legoworld, you can see (and test) 40c41 I'm curious how many trains we need for the regulator to burn. Shall we=20 I'm curious how many trains we need for the regulator to burn. Shall we 46,48c47,49 BTW: 2 week ago I visited G=FCnzburg (TOP!), and the BigShop sold the=20 Telekom-bycicles for 0,90 Euro/bike. Mega heaps of these boxes where=20 lying around... but after 2 days with Lego-consuming kids (and=20 BTW: 2 week ago I visited Günzburg (TOP!), and the BigShop sold the Telekom-bycicles for 0,90 Euro/bike. Mega heaps of these boxes where lying around... but after 2 days with Lego-consuming kids (and 54c55 >=20 > 58,60c59,60 >=20 >>As for weight... one weight brick per 9v engine block seems to work fin= e > >>As for weight... one weight brick per 9v engine block seems to work fine 65,76c65,71 >=20 > I have another trick to improve your engines/motors. If you take a clos= e look > at the motor wheels you see there are small round rubber bands. You can= > exchange the original ones against the rubberbands used in the Lego bic= ycles. >=20 > Those are a little bit thicker in their diameter. And if you take two o= f the > cheap telekom bikes for each motor, the bikes will look more like racin= g bikes > > I have another trick to improve your engines/motors. If you take a close look > at the motor wheels you see there are small round rubber bands. You can > exchange the original ones against the rubberbands used in the Lego bicycles. > > Those are a little bit thicker in their diameter. And if you take two of the > cheap telekom bikes for each motor, the bikes will look more like racing bikes 78,82c73,75 >=20 > You will be suprised who much stronger your engines become (especially = without > extra weight and at sloped track sections. Any feedback is welcome - I = did > > You will be suprised who much stronger your engines become (especially without > extra weight and at sloped track sections. Any feedback is welcome - I did 84c77 >=20 > 86c79 >=20 > 88,94c81,84 >=20 > P.s.: has anybody around some dozens of bicycles? I would need them to = upgrade > all my engines since each two motors engine needs 4 bikes for this upgr= ade. >=20 > > P.s.: has anybody around some dozens of bicycles? I would need them to upgrade > all my engines since each two motors engine needs 4 bikes for this upgrade. >
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I had packed my car the evenin= g > After getting out of bed in the middle of the night I was driving the 390 km > westwards to the Ijsselhallen in Zwolle. I had packed my car the evening 52,60c48,52 >=20 > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till m= embers > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the bigge= st > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I = only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from '= de > > When I arrived at 7:45 in the morning it took only a few minutes till members > of the local Lego club 'de Bouwsteen' let me in. BTW, that is the biggest > Lego-Fan Club wordwide with over 500 members - and I can assure you, I only > met very kind persons and had a very warm welcome. THANKS to all from 'de 62,68c54,57 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_m= ood.jpg >=20 > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all = my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is no= t so > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/002positive_mood.jpg > > Since the public gets into the Ijsselhalls at 10:00 I had to bring all my > stuff into the hall till 9:00 when the doors got locked up, which is not so 70,79c59,63 > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the= train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had = left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track= > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it = when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates wit= h > The time till 10:00 was devoted to put the Lego into the infield of the train > layout. Erwin van Grinsvin as the responsible person for that area had left me > a quite big area free, which I then occupated. I started with the track > layout, arranged my buildings along that and had a running train on it when > the public came in. Then it took 2 more hours to arrange baseplates with 81c65 >=20 > 83c67 >=20 > 85,87c69,70 >=20 > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from= the > > - hundreds of fans from nearly all European countries and even Tim from the 89,91c72,73 >=20 > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. m= ade by > > - a huge train layout with lots of very nice detailed houses for e.g. made by 93,95c75,76 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.j= pg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/009overview.jpg > 98,106c79,83 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_wor= ld.jpg >=20 > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably = most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big c= rowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms c= ontrol > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/50_pirate_world.jpg > > - an extra table layout of 6 ITLUG members: that has been the probably most > beautiful arranged piece of Lego in Zwolle. So it was no wonder a big crowd > was always trying to get nearer to the fence along that. A mindstorms control 108,110c85,86 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_stat= ion.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/48_itlug_station.jpg > 112,114c88,89 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_schoo= l.jpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/81_snot_school.jpg > 117c92 >=20 > 119,121c94,95 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jp= g >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/26_technik.jpg > 123,125c97,98 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts= =2Ejpg >=20 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/27_space-nuts.jpg > 128,132c101,103 >=20 > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving= in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the = signal > > - a huge 10 meters bridge with a camera-car running over it and driving in > spirals down to ground floor 2 meters below (radio transmission of the signal 134,135c105 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_br= uecke.j > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/22_10meter_bruecke.j 137,139c107,108 >=20 > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending liv= e from > > - the neighbour halls were occupied with a national TV show sending live from 141,143c110,111 >=20 > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables= with > > - another was full with Lego displays and the kids playing area (tables with 145,153c113,117 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.= jpg >=20 > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements lik= e > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show= and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fa= st > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/006_building.jpg > > - last hall was attractive because of bulk sale of special elements like > corner roof pieces etc. Additionally there were the big Lego truck show and a > action based area where the kids could drive the new RC cars (really fast 155,163c119,123 >=20 > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were all= owed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could sl= ide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30=B0= angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked real= ly > > - even the military supported the event with action camp: cids were allowed to > get up a ladder of steel cable. When reaching to the roof they could slide > down to the ground via another steal cable that lead down in a ca. 30° angle. > (Of course the were all time secured by a slim cord, but it looked really 166,172c126,129 > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun= =2Ejpg >=20 > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a ne= arly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very ope= n > http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Ben/Shows/Legoworld2002/005_armee_fun.jpg > > -LC sent lots of employes as well and for e.g. Brad Justus gave us a nearly 90 > minutes chance for question and answers. Thanks for the always very open 174c131 >=20 > 176c133 >=20 > 178,182c135,137 >=20 > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwstee= n' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Leg= o > > I am convinced Legoworld was a full success for all sides: 'de Bouwsteen' and > its members, the guests who were 'working' on the show, the TV, The Lego 184,193c139,144 >=20 > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the p= eople > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted a= nd I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink = support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep..= =2E. >=20 > > I will give anything to join next year again! Thanks again at all the people > that have made it so great days to me! I talked till my throat hurted and I > was pleased with the accommodation in bungalows and the food and drink support > and I needed lots of coffee with no minute too much spending on sleep.... > 195c146 >=20 > 198c149 >=20 > 200c151 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D27260 > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=27260 203,204c154 >=20 >
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lugnet.trains:18919 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 63 Lines: 60 22,26c23,25 >*Ideally*, given that the gauge of the track is just under 5 studs, the = correct >train width would be 10 studs wide (assuming standard gauge of 4 feet 8 = 1/2 >inches). That puts you at a scale of 1 stud =3D 1 foot. >*Ideally*, given that the gauge of the track is just under 5 studs, the correct >train width would be 10 studs wide (assuming standard gauge of 4 feet 8 1/2 >inches). That puts you at a scale of 1 stud = 1 foot. 28,29c27 >That makes minifigs about 5 feet high, which is okay, I guess, but it = ends up >That makes minifigs about 5 feet high, which is okay, I guess, but it ends up 66c64 now! =20 now! 83d80
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lugnet.trains:19902 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 37 Lines: 33 22c23 a friend asked me to build a drawbridge for a train display. so this is=20 a friend asked me to build a drawbridge for a train display. so this is 24c25 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3D42077 http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=42077 27,28c28 http://www.bizave.com/cgi-bin/photoalbum.cgi?photoalbum=3Dpdxbridges&slideta= g=3DHawthorne http://www.bizave.com/cgi-bin/photoalbum.cgi?photoalbum=pdxbridges&slidetag=Hawthorne 30,33c30,31 there are 3 spans. each span is 96 studs long. the center section lift is= =20 about 64 studs high. the bridge is amazingly strong, though i'm not really= =20 there are 3 spans. each span is 96 studs long. the center section lift is about 64 studs high. the bridge is amazingly strong, though i'm not really 41,42c39 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 57d53
lugnet.trains:19906 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 60 Lines: 55 31c32 >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3D388957 >http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=388957 38c39 yes thank you for fixing the link. some how some extra characters got=20 yes thank you for fixing the link. some how some extra characters got 41,47c42,46 i will be showing this at a talent show on may 10th. i just finished it=20 yesterday. it was such a nice day outside and i don't really have a flat=20 surface long enough to set it up in my house, so i set it up outside. i=20 made this bridge from pictures of the real bridge and a little inspiration= =20 from TJ Avery. the hawthorne bridge is about a mile away from my office so= =20 i will be showing this at a talent show on may 10th. i just finished it yesterday. it was such a nice day outside and i don't really have a flat surface long enough to set it up in my house, so i set it up outside. i made this bridge from pictures of the real bridge and a little inspiration from TJ Avery. the hawthorne bridge is about a mile away from my office so 50,54c49,51 you are right about synchronizing the motors. one of the motors runs=20 faster than the other. i made the string a little longer on one side. so= =20 when the bridge starts to go up it is a little lopsided, but by the time it= =20 you are right about synchronizing the motors. one of the motors runs faster than the other. i made the string a little longer on one side. so when the bridge starts to go up it is a little lopsided, but by the time it 63,64c60 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 80,81c76 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
lugnet.trains:19939 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 19c20 Lines: 41 Lines: 39 24,28c25,28 the rails on the lift span are not connected to the rest of the=20 rails. there is a separate power connector run to the rails on the lift=20 span. since the rails are not connected, there slopes on the sides to help= =20 keep the rails aligned when the lift span is lowered. if the tracks are=20 the rails on the lift span are not connected to the rest of the rails. there is a separate power connector run to the rails on the lift span. since the rails are not connected, there slopes on the sides to help keep the rails aligned when the lift span is lowered. if the tracks are 35c35 yeah, that was a luck ebay purchase! i'm totally out of black 1 x 16=20 yeah, that was a luck ebay purchase! i'm totally out of black 1 x 16 44,45c44 =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤øø¤º°`°º¤ 61,62c60 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru=20 Dual MP3 player http://www.dj6900.da.ru
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lugnet.trains:20011 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 18c19 Lines: 85 Lines: 78 20c21 =46rom how I understand auctions and their acceptance here (based on From how I understand auctions and their acceptance here (based on 71,80c72,77 >I would also have bid, had I known about these. Unfortunately, I don't = check >market.auction very regularly. Would it have been permissible (TOS-wise)= to say >in .trains, "I just built these new custom switches. Also, I'll be = auctioning >them off. For more info, see .market.auction." I suspect that while this= may >skirt the letter of the law, I'm not the only one who would find such an= auction >I would also have bid, had I known about these. Unfortunately, I don't check >market.auction very regularly. Would it have been permissible (TOS-wise) to say >in .trains, "I just built these new custom switches. Also, I'll be auctioning >them off. For more info, see .market.auction." I suspect that while this may >skirt the letter of the law, I'm not the only one who would find such an >auction 83,84c80,81 >Also, if he relists the auction, is there a way he can mention it = (legally) here >Also, if he relists the auction, is there a way he can mention it (legally) >here 86,87c83 >.market.auction for the next six weeks/months to see if the lot ever = shows up. >.market.auction for the next six weeks/months to see if the lot ever shows up. 89,92c85,86 >And if he can't mention it here, couldn't the same argument be applied = to the >Centerline track cleaner announcement, to prevent it from being listed = anywhere >And if he can't mention it here, couldn't the same argument be applied to the >Centerline track cleaner announcement, to prevent it from being listed anywhere 105d98
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lugnet.trains.org.scltc:143 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 22c23 I'm having a total blast here at BricksWest meeting people and=20 I'm having a total blast here at BricksWest meeting people and 25c26 After BricksWest I'm actually going to be hanging around in SoCal for a=20 After BricksWest I'm actually going to be hanging around in SoCal for a 28c29 While I'm here, I'd like to meet with as many people as I can, in=20 While I'm here, I'd like to meet with as many people as I can, in 31c32 http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=3D1961 (announcement) http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=1961 (announcement) 34c35 If you do a lot of building, and this sounds interesting to you, let's=20 If you do a lot of building, and this sounds interesting to you, let's 37,42c38,43 Henry Lim has graciously offered to put me up at his place in the event=20 that if I don't find other places to stay, and/or shuttle me around if=20 needed (wow!), but I'd hate for him to have to put up with me for=20 several more days. :-) (I took 700 photos last week Thursday and=20 Friday of his gigantic stagasaurus and his incredible harpsichord,=20 including about 50 inside the belly (which is how I got this cool gnash=20 Henry Lim has graciously offered to put me up at his place in the event that if I don't find other places to stay, and/or shuttle me around if needed (wow!), but I'd hate for him to have to put up with me for several more days. :-) (I took 700 photos last week Thursday and Friday of his gigantic stagasaurus and his incredible harpsichord, including about 50 inside the belly (which is how I got this cool gnash 45,47c46,48 Anyway, holy cow, there are so many great creations here in SoCal! From=20 Daniel Jassim's space ships, to Bryce McGlone's and Dave Johann's mecha,=20 to Brad Hamilton's underwater cities, all of the SCLTC stuff, and so=20 Anyway, holy cow, there are so many great creations here in SoCal! From Daniel Jassim's space ships, to Bryce McGlone's and Dave Johann's mecha, to Brad Hamilton's underwater cities, all of the SCLTC stuff, and so 50c51 I think I'm catching a ride back up to the LA area tomorrow with Scott=20 I think I'm catching a ride back up to the LA area tomorrow with Scott 53c54 So hey! Drop me a line a this e-mail address <tsl@tsl.bu.edu> if you're=20 So hey! Drop me a line a this e-mail address <tsl@tsl.bu.edu> if you're 58,59c59,60 p.s. I had the opportunity to chat briefly with Brad Justus at=20 BricksWest this morning. He likes the idea of the book and offered=20 p.s. I had the opportunity to chat briefly with Brad Justus at BricksWest this morning. He likes the idea of the book and offered 61d61
lugnet.underground:262 9c9,10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lugnet.com 17c18 Lines: 32 Lines: 31 21,30c22,30 My friend bought the LEGO Creator Castle addition (I don't know the = actual name, and yes, this is underground related!) and had several = previews on LEGO software, including the Rock Raider game. In this CG = generated movie clip, it had this massive spaceship, crewed by the Rock = Raiders, complete with a detailed bridge, hanger, mech bays, etc. all = made out of LEGO items and the Rock Raider theme. it showed them going = toward a wormhole, and getting sucked into it, and emerging in a distant = galaxy. They needed to get the crystals to power up the ship, I guess, = but it was a really neat film. When LEGO ever comes out with a way to = make films like that, I will be sure to buy it! : ) My friend bought the LEGO Creator Castle addition (I don't know the actual name, and yes, this is underground related!) and had several previews on LEGO software, including the Rock Raider game. In this CG generated movie clip, it had this massive spaceship, crewed by the Rock Raiders, complete with a detailed bridge, hanger, mech bays, etc. all made out of LEGO items and the Rock Raider theme. it showed them going toward a wormhole, and getting sucked into it, and emerging in a distant galaxy. They needed to get the crystals to power up the ship, I guess, but it was a really neat film. When LEGO ever comes out with a way to make films like that, I will be sure to buy it! : ) 39c39 =20 41c41 =20